How can you imply that Nocturne - Secret Garden is the first piece of music to contain that particular phrase?
Oh... I know. Because no one ever listens to classical music. There are no "new" melodies. All art is clever theft. The true art is in concealing your sources.
in music, a phrase in which a few notes are the same as those from a piece of music from an older composer's work is considered a quotation or a nod. If it is unintentional (and sufficiently interpretive, rather than derivative, as is the Pain of Salvation example from the original work) it is safe to consider it a product of influence. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery-- never forget that some composers do not hate each other.
I actually think if they've chosen such a wonderful song for "Sisters" that could be partially praise of their wide musical knowledge...God bless PoS!
come on guy,we're talking about a band that made original sound ever since "Entropia" and now how can you tell me they copy a melody still existing in many irish and celtic songs?Go away
and talk about other bands,but don't touch POS please
You can't plagerize something like this when its not identically copied. Now if he literally COPIED every note and every lyric of this song. YES that is bull shit. You can't copyright melodies because there are going to be similar feelings at times to music. The guy is a musical genius...its highly doubtful he decided to just get lazy and copy the melody of this song. He's got way too much experience behind him to pull a half ass stunt like that.
For fuck's sake, this man has written every single note of Entropia, One Hour by the Concrete Lake, The Perfect Element 1, Remedy Lane, Be and Scarsick before Road Salt One. Does anyone believe that he needed to copy intentionally anyone? Jesus, we're talking about "Remedy Lane" people. For "The Perfect Element"! For, probably, the most awesome music around these days.
First thing he said is "It was certainly unintentionally! And it is very annoying." In the full answer he explains why he ended up with that melody. So, certainly no plagiarism, but yes, the melodies are very similar.
изобщо даже не плагиатстват
1969gvg 3 weeks ago
Also, @everyone claiming plagiarism:
How can you imply that Nocturne - Secret Garden is the first piece of music to contain that particular phrase?
Oh... I know. Because no one ever listens to classical music. There are no "new" melodies. All art is clever theft. The true art is in concealing your sources.
IRuinEvrything 1 month ago
in music, a phrase in which a few notes are the same as those from a piece of music from an older composer's work is considered a quotation or a nod. If it is unintentional (and sufficiently interpretive, rather than derivative, as is the Pain of Salvation example from the original work) it is safe to consider it a product of influence. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery-- never forget that some composers do not hate each other.
Some of us aren't stingy, either.
IRuinEvrything 1 month ago
I actually think if they've chosen such a wonderful song for "Sisters" that could be partially praise of their wide musical knowledge...God bless PoS!
Larettadude 2 months ago
come on guy,we're talking about a band that made original sound ever since "Entropia" and now how can you tell me they copy a melody still existing in many irish and celtic songs?Go away
and talk about other bands,but don't touch POS please
CRZ4QR 2 months ago
You can't plagerize something like this when its not identically copied. Now if he literally COPIED every note and every lyric of this song. YES that is bull shit. You can't copyright melodies because there are going to be similar feelings at times to music. The guy is a musical genius...its highly doubtful he decided to just get lazy and copy the melody of this song. He's got way too much experience behind him to pull a half ass stunt like that.
SageIceDragonX 2 months ago
It is not similar. It is equal. And other parts of the album have similar things from other songs.
ksvideos 3 months ago
come on its obvious its not intentional...and no the two melodies are not so similar
nemogre 3 months ago
For fuck's sake, this man has written every single note of Entropia, One Hour by the Concrete Lake, The Perfect Element 1, Remedy Lane, Be and Scarsick before Road Salt One. Does anyone believe that he needed to copy intentionally anyone? Jesus, we're talking about "Remedy Lane" people. For "The Perfect Element"! For, probably, the most awesome music around these days.
chamaileon81 4 months ago
The theme is not so hard to imagine that its necessary to copy from another song.
Pain of salvation don't need to cover something, but anyway, thanks for the video: it's incredible to see the coincidences :)
TheBraveDiamond 5 months ago
simillar, but not plagiarism..
scarsickED 6 months ago 2
few times in the music coincidences exist, but this is obiously plagiarism
diosapinguino 8 months ago
As duas primeiras frases melódicas são parecidas, mas pelas regras do plágio (8 compassos, se ainda for assim), talvez não seja considerado assim.
scaliza 9 months ago
Daniel already spoke about that in this interview:
rocking.gr/interviews/Sunenteuksi_Pain_Of_Salvation/8343/
(Try google translate)
First thing he said is "It was certainly unintentionally! And it is very annoying." In the full answer he explains why he ended up with that melody. So, certainly no plagiarism, but yes, the melodies are very similar.
tthornclownn 10 months ago 7
@tthornclownn actually Daniel's vocal line and the violin melody from Secret Garden are not very similar...they are identical....
GRGSGNS 5 months ago
@tthornclownn Did he explain it in english anywhere else?
LadyInVelvet1 3 months ago