Proof of the Bible changing- Bart Ehrman [FULL]

[Militant7861]

dont u see that GOD doesnt save scriptures that have been changed and as GOD has not promised any scriptures to be saved 100% except the quran and evidence is there as millions of muslims memorise it word for word thats how GOD saved the last scripture

[metalsusa1]

Bart Ehrman shows logically, historically, and textually why the Bible is not the word of any God or Gods. It's man made fiction turned inerrant. Let's grow up and get real, the Bible is nonsense.

[ttone2379]

its time that people are truly honest with themselves. search out there motives and throw away pre-concieved ideas to investigate fully and with discipline what can be known as authentic history not legend or myth. if you don't believe this man than investigate for yourself. by the way not everything that anyone says is completely factual and a lot of what Bart Erhman speaks about is his professional opinion that was forced on lack of evidence. years of research and speculation > hearsay.

[Ddonko]

This isn't [FULL] - where is part 2?

[holyspiritdove]

THE BIBLE IS THE TRUTH AND BART D EHRMAN MISLEADS ON THIS VIDEO

PROOF 29:03 TIME SCALE OF THIS VIDEO EHRMAN CLAIMS THAT

MARK CHAPTER 1:3 IS NOT IN ISAIAH BUT IN EXODUS

WHAT A JOKE EHRMAN OPEN YOUR BRAIN AND THINK OPEN THE HOLY BIBLE TO ISAIAH 40:3 THE VOICE OF HIM THAT CRIES IN THE WILDERNESS " PREPARE YE THE WAY OF THE LORD MAKE STRAIGHT IN THE DESERT A HIGHWAY FOR OUR GOD

MARK 1:3 THE VOICE OF ONE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS "PREPARE YE THE WAY OF THE LORD MAKE HIS PATHS STRAIGHT.

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove The bible is not true, yet another stupid fanatic, typing only in caps like a loud, spoilt child.

[holyspiritdove]

@itchygonads JESUS CHRIST IS THE TRUTH AND THE BIBLE IS TRUE AMEN .JESUS LOVES YOU COME TO JESUS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE REPENT AND BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AS GOD SHOWN TO US AS THE SON OF YAHWEH.AMEN.

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove Jesus christ probably never even existed. And god almost definitively doesnt. Turn caps lock off. It makes you look like a child shouting. Which you probably are to be fair.

[holyspiritdove]

@itchygonads JESUS SAID UNLESS YOU COME TO JESUS AS A CHILD LIKE A CHILD INNOCENT AND TRUE YOU WILL IN NO WISE ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.AMEN.

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove How do you know he said that? The bible was written over one hundred years after he supposedly lived. Although, once again, there is no evidence that he was even ever alive. God isn't real. Stop your stupid preaching, it makes you look ridiculous and anyone with a brain is laughing at you.

[holyspiritdove]

@itchygonads JESUS LOVES YOU AMEN.GOD IS LOVE LOVE IS GOD LIKE NATURE STUPIDITY IS HUMAN NATURE.AMEN.

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove There is NO god. And if there was, that asshole is doing a shit job, Lol stay in school kid.

[holyspiritdove]

@itchygonads GOD SENDS US TO HIS LAW SCHOOL TO LEARN WHAT REAL FREEDOM IS ALL ABOUT.

THEN HE GIVES US FREEDOM TO ACT EDUCATED AND INFORMED.

IF YOU FAIL YOU GO BACK TO LAW SCHOOL TILL YOU GET IT.

JESUS CHRIST HAS SET US FREE FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH SO THAT WE MAY BE SLAVES TO TRUTH AND LIFE IN JESUS CHRIST AMEN.

WHO WANTS TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL UNLESS YOU NEVER GRADUATED.

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove You can repeat yourself in full capitals like a fucking idiot all you want, i am saying i do not believe jesus EVER existed. All you are showing is how uneducated you are, and all you are doing is giving religion an even worse name (if that is possible.)

[holyspiritdove]

@itchygonads MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.JESUS LOVES YOU .

COME HOME O LOST SHEEP.

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove Merry christmas. However god still doesnt exist.

[holyspiritdove]

@itchygonads JESUS IS THE REASON FOR THE SEASON. CHRIST-MAS

MASSES WORSHIPING JESUS CHRIST AMEN.JESUS LOVES YOU O LOST SHEEP HE IS LOOKING FOR YOU AMEN.

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove actually no, christmas is a pagen holiday your pathetic religion stole.

there is no god, and you are celebrating a pagen holiday.

[holyspiritdove]

@itchygonads CHRIST- MASSES WORSHIPING CHRIST OBLITERATED THE PAGAN HOLIDAYS.TODAY IN THE 21 ST CENTURY ASK ANYONE WHAT DOES DEC 25TH STAND FOR THEY WOULD SAY JESUS CHRIST BIRTHDAY.

THIS WAS DONE ON PURPOSE SO ALL PAGAN DEITY'S WILL BE FORGOTTEN

AND ONLY THE REAL TRUE DEITY WILL BE REMEMBERED AND THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED AMEN.

EVEN THOUGH JESUS BIRTHDAY IS NOT ON CHRISTMAS DAY AND PAGANS CELEBRATED THAT DAY FOR FALSE WORSHIP OF PAGAN GOD'S CHRISTIANITY

OBLITERATED IT.AMEN

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove No, i celebrate christmas. And not for that non-existant idiot jesus.

It is a pagan holiday that your religion stole, christmas tree's, misiltoe, holy are ALL pagan symbols. You dont know what you are talking about.

Actually that is not what happened, it was done by your religion to lie and con people into believing it. Your religion is very good at lieing.

Your god is as false as all the others, you are just a brainwashed infant. Why do you always type in capitals?

[holyspiritdove]

@itchygonads YOU ARE RUNNING FROM THE TRUTH JESUS SAID

*** I AM THE TRUTH *** NO MAN CAN APPROACH MY FATHER YAHWEH WITHOUT ME AND ONLY THROUGH ME JESUS CHRIST CAN ANY HUMAN COME TO HEAVEN.AMEN.JOHN 14:6

BUDDHISTS MUSLIMS HINDOOS AND ALL SAY IN UNISION OH WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRIST- MAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR THEY ALWAYS TALK ABOUT JESUS CHRIST I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY OTHER SO FAMOUS AND GLORIOUS AS JESUS CHRIST THAT ONLY JESUS IS CALLED THE HOLY ONE AMEN.

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove so what? Jesus NEVER EXISTED. Actually, the dont say that. What an idiot

I HAVE ONE QUESTION. Can you prove any of this rubbish you are saying? Any of it?

[holyspiritdove]

@itchygonads YES WHAT PROOF WILL SATISFY YOU IF YOU ARE INFORMED THAT THE LIFE YOU ENJOY TODAY THE PEACE YOU ENJOY TODAY YOUR VERY DESTINY HAS BEEN PAID FOR AND A SUPER INHERITANCE HAS BEEN LEFT FOR YOU WITH YOUR NAME TAG ON IT AND IT SAYS MY CHILD I LOVE YOU.

LOVE IS THE PROOF NO ONE CAN LOVE YOU LIKE JESUS.AMEN.JESUS IS LOVE.HE LOVED YOU ENOUGH TO DIE IN YOUR STEAD TO SAVE YOU FROM HELL AND SATAN EVEN BEFORE YOU WERE BORN.

WILL YOU LOVE JESUS AS MUCH AS HE LOVES YOU ? JOHN 3:16

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove Hahaha just as i thought. Not a single bit of evidence. You are a child, and you have failed your religion. Stay at school.

[holyspiritdove]

@itchygonads IS THERE ANY RELIGION GRATER THAN LOVE WHICH IS JESUS?

JESUS IS LOVE AMEN.NO ONE GREATER THAN JESUS AMEN.JESUS IS HOLY ETERNALLY NO ONE HOLY LIKE JESUS AMEN. 

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove All religions are the same. All wrong, and all laughably wrong. Do you think you are convincing anyone with this? People are laughing at you. You are failing to represent your religion. Other christians should be ashamed of you. You type in all caps like a shouting child. You are HIGHLY uneducated, and very unconvincing. You have actually driven me further away from christianity, as i could not bare being in the sam group of people as you.

[holyspiritdove]

@itchygonads LOVE GOD AND LOVE YOUR FELLOW MAN THIS THE WHOLE LAW OF GOD.

[itchygonads]

@holyspiritdove I love my fellow man. But there is no god.

[metalsusa1]

@holyspiritdove All capital letters demonstrates religious fanaticism. Tone it down dude.

[holyspiritdove]

@metalsusa1 STAND UP STAND UP FOR JESUS AMEN.

[metalsusa1]

@holyspiritdove That's your opinion and your entitled to it.

[m3d2]

@FJYardley

OMG

So you quote and even can't understand

" PRE-ISLAMIC ARAB" and just in case PRE mean before, previous; earlier, prior; in advance, beforehand.

[TheLionessjudah]

Erhman is a Jew who went to theology school with the sole purpose of coming out with a line of letters behind his name to discredit the Bible for profit. He is the harlot for Islam and they are using this modern day Judas's material to boost the Koran and overshadow the Bible. If you go to Erhman's website he has his donation slot set up for the deposits Islam gives him, very clever Judas. You should read about Judas, Erhman ,what Christ said about your kind, your future is written there.

[KitKirja]

Obviously, Bart Ehrman is ignorant about Aramaic Bibles.

There are at least seventy (70) verses in the Aramaic Bibles, which state that there is no son from God.

Also, the Gospels were NOT written in Greek.

The Gospels were written in Aramaic.

Bart Ehrman says that Jesus spoke Aramaic, and he did not know Greek or Latin.

So, it makes NO sense at all to say that Gospels were written in Greek.

[ianjrivers]

@KitKirja The new testament was written in Greek, there's no doubt about that, but you're right, Jesus and his disciples spoke Aramaic. Which is why none of them wrote the new testament, except Paul, who was educated in Greek and became a latter day disciple. Bart Erhman has degrees and a doctorate in scriptural studies, so i think we can take his word for it, along with others, that Greek was the language used for the NT. I'm sure that there are Aramaic scriptures, just none included in the NT

[TheLionessjudah]

@KitKirja Thank you for you informative imput. This man is being uploaded so much by the Islamic brotherhood, I even have a sick person harassing me from leaving my comment on another Bart Erhman site. He is so sold out to Islam, a very disturbing false teacher..

[LordAquila]

Ehrman is a Jew.

[mulus2008]

@LordAquila so was Jesus

[LordAquila]

@mulus2008

Wong.

[mulus2008]

@LordAquila wrong?

[P1B1U1H1]

@LordAquila Really?

[stramster1]

@FJYardley Qu'rap.........funny stuff.

I was in need of a good laugh and you gave it to me. If there is ever anything I can do for you just ask. ☺♥

[aiieyzz0nme]

@FJYardley im sorry to tell you brotha, but it is you who isnt well read on the quran, al-lat,al uzza and manat are not the names of daughters of allah that preislamic arabia believed in. it is the names of the idols they worshiped.

[ideologger]

Uhh.. This isn't the full version- it stops at 34 minutes, right in the middle of a sentence!

[aiieyzz0nme]

@FJYardley allah has no daughters. i wonder where you get this information from?!? "say he is god the one and only, god the eternal absolute, he does not beget nor is he begotten, and there is nothing like unto him" holy quran 112:1-4

[aiieyzz0nme]

@FJYardley i have read it and i have read the bible ...i feel sorry for you, you cant even hold an intelligent conversation. you seem to resort to cursing, i can see your parents have raised you well. tell me why is islam the fastest growing religion on the face of the earth?? and yes our book is holy. it is the verbatim word of god. it has scientific miracles within it that couldnt have been known in 700ad. you are just ignorant. only god can judge us.you have your religion and i have mine

[stramster1]

@aiieyzz0nme "it is the verbatim word of god"

So are you saying that your god thinks the Earth is egg shaped?

Dawah[1] translation which reads "He made the earth egg-shaped."

Your god is wrong and therefore not omniscient if your statement is true.

Other translations: And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); (Yusuf Ali) And after that He spread the earth, (Pickthall) And the earth, He expanded it after that. (Shakir)

All are, I am sorry to inform you, wrong.

[aiieyzz0nme]

@stramster1 it does not say egg shaped. allah is my god and your god whether you i agree or not. it is a fact and on the day of resurrection you will be informed. if your god is not allah, then may be your god is "the father in heaven" or " yhwh" what ever you wanna label god, he is the very same god that sent moses, jesus, and all the prophets starting from adam and ending with mohammed peace be upon all of them. where is the reference to the verse about the earth being egg shaped?

[stramster1]

@aiieyzz0nme Sura 79:30 I have given you the translations.

sigh

[aiieyzz0nme]

@stramster1 dont sigh. u gave only the translation not the reference so please dont get smart with me. And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse).-79:30 where does it say it is egg shaped?? you people that want to prove flaws in the quran have a wild imagination.

[aiieyzz0nme]

(79:30) and thereafter spread out the earth, *16 another translation

Literal-and the earth/Planet Earth after that He blew and stretched/spread it.

Yusuf Ali -And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse);

Pickthal- And after that He spread the earth,

Arberry-and the earth-after that He spread it out,

Shakir-And the earth, He expanded it after that.

Sarwar-After this, He spread out the earth,

H/K/Saheeh- And after that He spread the earth.

Malik-After that He spread out the earth

[aiieyzz0nme]

Say: "We believe in God, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to God do we bow our will (in Islam)." 3:83

[aiieyzz0nme]

“And if you are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down to Our servant, then produce a chapter like it and call your witnesses besides Allah if you be truthful. If you do not do so – and you will never do so – then fear a fire whose fuel is men and stones prepared for the disbelievers.” [Sûrah 2: 23-24] still standing challenge of the quran till this very day. if it is not from allah, then why cant ne one produce one chapter?? no one has ever been able to challenge the quran!

[stramster1]

You didn't answer the question.

I will ask it again and you can try a second time.

Are you saying the Earth is "egg shaped"?

The Qu'ran has been challenged and beaten many times just like this.

Answer the question!

[aiieyzz0nme]

@stramster1 stop putting words in my mouth, i never said the earth is shaped like an egg. the quran has never been challenged nor beaten. where like this?? where and when and how was it beaten??the professor is talking about the bible not the quran. i would actually love for him to study the quran and criticize it !! i bet you he will revert to islam once he does cuz he will surely be convinced that it is the verbatim word of god and that could not have produced by ne human being!!

[stramster1]

@aiieyzz0nme There you go again claiming that the Qu'ran is "the verbatim word of god" yet as i have pointed out and will do so again in sura 79:30 your god was wrong. Get it.... wrong. Your god could not even describe the geometry of the globe on witch he is supposed to have created us.

The fact that you missed the Dawah translation speaks to either your integrity or you ignorance.

"dont get smart with me"

A) I will do as I please

and

B) why would I waist my time?

Revert? no (sigh) convert.

[stramster1]

@aiieyzz0nme There you go again claiming that the Qu'ran is "the verbatim word of god" yet as i have pointed out and will do so again in sura 79:30 your god was wrong. Get it.... wrong. Your god could not even describe the geometry of the globe on witch he is supposed to have created us.

The fact that you missed the Dawah translation speaks to either your integrity or you ignorance.

"dont get smart with me"

A) I will do as I please

and

B) why would I waist my time?

Revert? no (sigh) convert

[aiieyzz0nme]

@stramster1 and as ive showed you. that is one translation out 10 others that dont say it was egg shaped. and revert is the proper term since we are all born as submitters to the will of god. if one were to become muslim, they are only going back to what they originally were. so revert is the term no convert!

re·vertVerb/riˈvərt/

1. Return to (a previous state, condition, practice, etc.).

[stramster1]

@aiieyzz0nme Ah yes but once again you miss the point. I will make it again.

Your god is wrong. Your god had no more idea of the shape of the Earth than the desert dwelling ignoramus that wrote the book. Also I see that the missing of the Dawah translation was in fact a refletion of your integrity.

Your use of the word "revert" suggests that Mr Ehrman was once a Muslim and he wasn't so you are, once again, wrong. Is english your second language?

cont...

[aiieyzz0nme]

@stramster1 ENGLISH IS MY SECOND LANGUAGE.

[stramster1]

@aiieyzz0nme cont... "we are all born as submitters to the will of god"

No we are not. How dare you impose your ugly god upon me or anyone with a free thinking mind. Even if i thought your nasty, primitive god existed I would never submit to it without a very long list of apologies. So, you keep telling yourself "we are all born as submitters to the will of god" if thats what make you feel better about your own predicament but you are again wrong.

The verbatim word of god my arse.

[aiieyzz0nme]

@stramster1  only time will tell buddy. god bless. that is if you even believe in a god

[stramster1]

@aiieyzz0nme Time has told mate and your time is over.

I do not believe in any god that has been defined to me and that includes yours.

Languish in your desert philosophy if you must. The rest of us will get on with building an ever improving civilization for all humans. Even you.

[aiieyzz0nme]

@stramster1 desert philosophy? okay...i will be laughing at you when islam eventually takes over the world. and it will, you wanna know how i know?? my god says so in his book! " the destiny of islam is to master, supersede and bull doze every other way of life,no matter how much the unbelievers might not like it, that is the destiny"!

[stramster1]

@aiieyzz0nme Well there you go. You have inarticulately expressed everything that is wrong with your, plagiarized, desert philosophy. lol You believe it because it is written in a book? Even more amusing is the fact that you think U can force your belief on others. Here's a heads up for you mate. You can't!

Muslims had their asses handed to them in East Timor and will every time they try to impose baseless authority on free people.

U will laugh in the future? I'm laughing now!

I feel sorry 4 u.

[aiieyzz0nme]

@stramster1 only time will tell

[aiieyzz0nme]

@stramster1 only time will tell

[m3d2]

@stramster1

Islam rise more then 1000 year your civilization build and evolve from our civilization...

"it's highly probable that , but for the Arabs modern European civilization would never have arise at all "

sir thomas arnold and alfred guillaume tle legacy of islam.. you have nothing before our civilization .. you may still in the dark age so So dieal with it .

[stramster1]

@m3d2 I'm sorry but I don't really understand what it is you are saying. Let me try and paraphrase your argument.

Islamic culture was the necessary precursor to advanced European civilization and without influences from Islamic culture Europe would most likely be a technological and sociological back water.

Is this what you are implying?

[TPLR2]

@aiieyzz0nme bullshit

[P1B1U1H1]

@stramster1 Watch it there, big guy. This fellow to whom you are posting might think you are a follower of Satan. You used the word "witch" when most would write "which". Professor Ehrman is wrong. One of those 5000 manuscripts got it right. Those predestined to go to heaven know which one it is.

[aiieyzz0nme]

@stramster1 In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

1. Say : O ye that reject Faith!

2. I worship not that which ye worship,

3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

4. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

6. To you be your Way, and to me mine.

[Faruk1189]

can anyone tell me the number of time this guy uses the word "copy" ?

[Budvb]

And let the divide begin... Wonder why they want to keep dividing us so we keep hurting each other over materials and meaningless things... Understanding is all that is needed, and those who lack it, will lead a Fool to foolish waters. Keep diving and this great world will end, that runs as one being created for us by our Lord.

[aiieyzz0nme]

@FJYardley i just love how ignorant people like you always resort to cursing my holy book...i bet you havent even read the quran...you seem to hate a book only because the media brainwashed you to. i feel sorry for you. we muslims are made to say " we believe in god,his angels, his books,all his messengers including moses and jesus, the divine decree, judgement day and life after death" you we muslims will never curse your books or ne of the bibles prophets because we believe in them as well.

[aiieyzz0nme]

The Holy Quran has stated that the bible has been corrupted!

Chapter 2:78 Among them are unlettered folk who know the Scripture not except from hearsay. They but guess.Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands and then say, "This is from Allah," that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby

[boswell255]

@aiieyzz0nme Did they write the Qu'ran with their feet then? If not it's just as corrupt by your logic :P

[aiieyzz0nme]

@boswell255 unlike your bible, we do not have any muslim scholar or bible scholar that can say that our Quran has been changed!! this guy is a scholar and he's not talking about the quran but rather he's talking about how corrupt your bible is. 32 scholars of the highest eminence back by 50 cooperating denominations said the king james bible has great defects!! not muslims!! so please dont think that my logic applies to the quran because there arent ne scholars that say that about the quran!

[aiieyzz0nme]

@boswell255 you are just upset because your own scholars say that your bible today is corrupt and not the same that was revealed to moses. No Scholar on the face of the earth can say that the quran has been corrupted

:-P the quran is the only living miracle!

[boswell255]

@aiieyzz0nme Erm....hate to tell you this kid, I'm not a Christian. -_-

I'm not meaning to be disrespectful to anybody of faith by the way, I'm just pointing out that at the end of the day, all religions follow books. Books no matter how "divinely inspired" they are are written by people. Mistakes creep in, sometimes deliberately, sometimes not. Even the untranslated Qu'uran has the potential to have been altered. And nobody would know. And there ARE scholars who have said this. Peace.

[boswell255]

"As told to Moses" That was the old testament. The new testament, the main Christian bible (they chose to ignore the old testament a lot of the time) was written by people years after his assumed death date, and mostly edited down by emporer constantine. Just so you know :P

And you forgot "(pbuh)" after Moses ;)

[aiieyzz0nme]

@boswell255 yes i did know that it was writtin by the emporer but thanks for the info..and yes ur right i did forget about pbut :-)...you see we muslims believe that god revealed the torah to moses pbuh, it is not the old testament now, we are speaking about the original torah, and we believe that god revealed the gospel to jesus Christ pbuh, but im not the new testamnt now but the actual teachings of jesus christ pbuh, and we also believe that god revealed the zaboor to Daviv pbuh aka psalms

[aiieyzz0nme]

@aiieyzz0nme unlike your bible, we do not have any muslim scholar or bible scholar that can say that our Quran has been changed!! this guy is a scholar and he's not talking about the quran but rather he's talking about how corrupt your bible is. 32 scholars of the highest eminence back by 50 cooperating denominations said the king james bible has great defects!! not muslims!! so please dont think that my logic applies to the quran because there arent ne scholars that say that about the quran!

[Law19157]

@2000peterpaul What the....who spammed your comment? does somebody not want this information to get out?

[boswell255]

@Law19157 Posting links is spam. Writing in capslock is spam. That's probably why it got flagged as spam.

Take your tinfoil hat and go play on the freeway.

[Law19157]

@boswell255 ...more like some doesn't want people to see the counter argument, and that Ehrmen's view is rejected by the vast majority of new testament scholars.

"Take your tinfoil hat and go play on the freeway."

Typical immature atheist response, you need to grow up

[boswell255]

@Law19157 most NT scholars have a vested interest on him being wrong because most are christian. Anyway, I'd be interested to hear the counter argument, I think Ehrman, although this was an interesting talk, is full of BS, and he has books to sell which always complicates matters. But he's not the only person studying the bible who noticed inaccuracies, he even mentioned a few in the talk. If you read the bible, cover to cover, (have you? I have, and I'm an atheist) they stick out. Try it ;)

[Law19157]

@boswell255 Your all head knowledge, practical application works better. Everyone who ever wanted to know if God was real believed it first then they got their evidence, frankly the events at pentacost can be repeated, faith is the trigger. Faith, try it ;)

[Law19157]

@boswell255 I have read the bible & I do ask questions but unlike its critiques I ask to understand not jump to conclusions because something seems off. The text is all old and trying to understand what the authors were intending to say thousands of years ago isn't simple & its never going to be understood by someone with a predisposition that its false...

[Budvb]

@Law19157 It's not meant to be understood by all, only the ones with pure hearts will see it's true glory. Otherwise the wicked can use it for great power to destroy us. Christians know Isa, Islam knows God as do Judaism, we are all one big family fighting over who knows god better then just saying Who Cares lets help each other out and build great things in the name of our Lord for the betterment of all of us. Then fighting endlessly over i am more prideful then you. God bless my friend

[Fighting4PEACE97]

@Budvb I have read the bible bro and in no way SHAPE OR FORM am I hurting your feelings.

The bible was THE TRUE WORD OF GOD at THE TIME OF JESUS but NOW IT IS THE QURAN.

The bible says things like:

In one of the of the verses it says "The earth will abide for ever" and in another it says "The Earth will perish" which one is it perish for ever or abide for ever you choose

AND THERE ARE SO MANY ERRORS IN THE BIBLE:

watch?v=VbigbuvMLQs (WATCH AND LEARN)

[Budvb]

@Fighting4PEACE97 Yeah, i do have questions myself about certain things in the bible, but i think a lot will be answered soon too most of us. I like the Qur'an as much as i like the Bible, both are great books and teach us to love each other and help each other become better people together.

[Fighting4PEACE97]

@Budvb I have talked to alot of people like this and they started to say horrible things about Jesus and the Quran and it's righteous prophets peace be upon them.

I'm not lying or anything but your one of the first people I know who I have talked to about this subject with good manners you have good manners which is a good thing keep it up

Oh and thanks for saying nice things about our religion

Same I love the bible and the Quran because us Muslims belive that the bible was just for that time

[Fighting4PEACE97]

@Budvb BY THE WAY if you are in doubt about the beauty and the amount of brotherhood and love Islam has as well as the manners in Islam.

Here is a link please watch:

/watch?v=9iq75EB0amI = BEAUTIFUL

I highly recomend that you get a transalation of the Quran and judge for your self

[Budvb]

@Fighting4PEACE97 Great stuff thank you

[Budvb]

@Fighting4PEACE97 And Satan will say when the matter has been concluded, "Indeed, Allah had promised you the promise of truth. And I promised you, but I betrayed you. But I had no authority over you except that I invited you, and you responded to me. So do not blame me; but blame yourselves. I cannot be called to your aid, nor can you be called to my aid. Indeed, I deny your association of me [with Allah ] before. Indeed, for the wrongdoers is a painful punishment."

[Fighting4PEACE97]

@Budvb R u a Muslim or not??? :D

[Fighting4PEACE97]

@Budvb ALSO watch this:

/watch?v=tXHezkN3B9o&feature=f­eedlik

/watch?v=9iq75EB0amI

/watch?v=lrR1qBYbqvU

Just copy it in front of youtube dot com in the URL

ALL I WANT YOU TO DO IS TO SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS ! :D

If you do then you will understand Inshallah

[Budvb]

@Fighting4PEACE97 Have you never read the Torah/Old testament? anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. (5:32)

"You shall not kill any person - for God has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. If one is killed unjustly, then we give his heir authority to enforce justice. Thus, he shall not exceed the limits in avenging the murder, he will be helped."(17:33)

Does this Scare you, Justice?

[Fighting4PEACE97]

@Budvb Im ONLY 13 and have alot of research to do RELIGION

[Budvb]

@Fighting4PEACE97 yeah don't look at a Qur'an or any religion from pieces but as a whole otherwise you will be mislead by it's full story. They too are waiting for Isa/Jesus as are all of us together, Judaism it still waiting for Jesus to Show, Christians are waiting for his 2nd return to deliver justice upon the earth to bring the Kingdom, Islam is waiting for him to come and bring the kingdom. Days are drawing closer by the prophecies of all 3 religions of his return or coming. God bless

[aiieyzz0nme]

@Budvb you are right, jesus is most definitely coming again, the jews however are not waiting for jesus pbuh, because they did not believe he was the awaited messiah, mainly because they were able to "crucify " him. and if you can crucify him then he cannot be the true messiah, however he is the messiah! we believe that god raised him up to heaven and was never killed nor crucified. they are still waiting for a "messiah" their messiah will be the anti-christ, but a better term is pseud-messiah

[Budvb]

@aiieyzz0nme I think as more us look around, it may be our last hope, but as we know us men of faith, things will only get worse before they will get better. Thank you, and may peace be upon you, for only the Good Lord can set things right.

Yeah, a lot that just want a quick fix or in dire need of a Messiah will fall victim to the false Messiah. It's all part of the plan though, make sure you make your own choice for God will only judge us for our own choices not for who we followed. God bless

[m3d2]

@Budvb

my God guide you to the right way . Ameen

[Budvb]

@m3d2 Thank You, and you as well. may God be with you!

[Crunchy68]

The video is great, but it says "Full", and this is only half an hour of a talk that was maybe an hour or two long. Heck, it even ends right in the middle of a sentance. Right in the middle of a WORD.

Would really like to have the rest of the speech, please! kthx. :)

[Crunchy68]

Fascinating info!

Makes me want to start a "handwritten Bible" club, getting friends to all copy out a book by hand, passing it along for re-copying like a telephone game. (No cheating by looking things up in printed Bibles!) I wonder what the book would say by the end of, say, 50 recopies?

[mdr22315]

Wow, Thats it? Here I thought he was going to show how the Bible has been changed! I get type o's and the story of Jesus as a 12 year old. Don't waste my time Bart Ehrman!

[kscuteflute]

The geneology of Jesus given in Luke ends with (around 27:38 in the video): ..."Adam, who is the son of God."

Huh. Now if Jesus IS God because he's the son of God, what does that make Adam?

There are two options: both Jesus and Adam are God, OR neither are God.

[didgodsaythat]

Go Bart