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  • I ALSO DARE anyone to challenge the book "Evidence that demands a verdict".

  • Clearly these Atheists are not trying to learn anything new. I can show them 300 prophesies given by Prophets (1000bc-350bc) from the Old Testament concerning Jesus Christ, Seen on Manuscripts dated 150bc - 100ad to show exactly what they said. Then show them those 300 prophesy fulfillment's in the New Testament written by Apostles much later, Top it off, at least 10 by a Ancient Jewish writer named Josephus to the things that happened to Christ. There is more. There is tablets, stones, tombs.

  • You should not put down a religion you would not want others to put down your religion so stop this bicker and live your lives because why waste you time on a argument when you could do something with life have fun enjoy it Psalm 139 would apply here

  • @naomiwestech I would rather someone put me down because I am wrong, than encourage ignorance and stupidity.

  • There is no evidence for your personal god.

    Reply with an argument and evidence to back up your claims. (You will be the first person in the world to do so)

  • @LOGICandREAS0N I dont believe you have looked all all the evidence. Or maybe ignored most of it. Ill be back.

  • @NoneBeforeNoneAfter You didn't respond with what I asked.

  • @LOGICandREAS0N My videos of "300 Messianic Prophecies 1 and 2". There is the TopTen Proofs website? The book 'evidence that demands a vierdict' by am firm atheist who spent years trying to disprove and came to the conclusion that there was far too much evidence. But ill give you my favorite. OT repeatedly said JEWS of ISRAEL would be scattered throughout the world and brought back into that land. In 70 AD, 40 years after Christ told them, Temple WAS torn down.

  • @NoneBeforeNoneAfter Disproving a religion is the same as trying to disprove unicorns or leprechauns. Although there is no reasonable evidence to believe they exist, they cannot be 100% disproved.

    Finding a few things in the Bible that make sense doesn't prove that the rest of it is reliable. Your religion is no different than the thousands of other religions and gods...

    Tell me, why aren't you a Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist?

    The only reason you follow a religion is because your parents do..

  • @LOGICandREAS0N ..and because you live in a certain part of the world. If you were born in a different country, you would be saying the exact same thing, but about a different god.

    If you were born a few thousand years ago, you would have different religious views as well...

    Tell me...if you believe in your god so much...why do you need hospitals?

    Why don't you cheer and celebrate when someone dies? They are "in a better place" as religious people like to say...

    Prayer is a PLACEBO.

  • @LOGICandREAS0N Also, I suppose you don't think evolution is a fact, yet you think that after Noah's Ark, super, or rapid-evolution occurred.

    Those huge talons and claws on the dinosaurs were just in case the plants tried to make a fast get-away weren't they? It's people like you that think dinosaurs and humans lived together...

    If you are only good because you think you deserve/will get some sort of reward afterwards, than you truly are a sad person.

  • @LOGICandREAS0N Atheists are good people because they want to be, not because they hope for some reward, or "sky cake."

  • @LOGICandREAS0N You raised a good point. Reminds me of what I believe the God seeks to acomplish. He is not looking for actors, to simply apear to be do good things. Actually God is looking to change our 'Nature' so that one day it will be impossible to to do bad. We all have it in us to do evil. Imagine if you would, people in a world where the inner Nature of good is all they could do. Where bad ideas become impossible. Where total absolute truth only exsisted.

  • @NoneBeforeNoneAfter Just by the very definition of the word itself, nothing can be "perfect."

    Morality does not come from religion, let alone a book.

    Our species is constantly changing, and so is morality.

    Absolute morality fails. For example, what if you lie to save someones life. What if you kill someone, but it saves 2 people from dying? There will never be absolute morality, and that is a good thing.

    Are you also implying that everyone was immoral before the Bible was written?

  • @LOGICandREAS0N When everyone in a group WANT TO do what is right having Christ Like Morailty then it make total sense. Like a city protected from the outside world. Everyone must have a perfect Nature for the system to work. Freely, we ask the creator to change that Nature as we cannot on our own. In this life, 1. By grace we get free from the Penalty of sin 2. Overcome the Power of sin over us. (Earth) 3rd. We finally get to be free from the Presence of sin forever (Heaven).

  • @NoneBeforeNoneAfter LOL? WTF is this nonsense? That post didn't clarify anything..

    I don't even know how to respond, considering you didn't give me a starting point.

    You tell me why you even believe in a personal god, and we'll go from there...

  • @LOGICandREAS0N 1. I believe in God because of Jesus Christ and his words. Nothing in any writen text makes as much sense to the human condition 2. I see his work in Creation millions of Colors, Smells, Sounds, Extreme Complexity in all living things. IN Flowers, Trees, Fruits, Vegtables, Plants, Creatures, Birds, Sky, Moon, Stars, Ocean, Seas, Waves, Rocks even the very Sand on the beach. 3. I believe in God because Love came from Love and Love always exsisted. Father to Son.

  • @NoneBeforeNoneAfter 1. So how come you don't follow the Quran? There are thousands of different religions and gods, all made up by humans. 2. Are you honestly trying to use intelligent design as an argument? If so, answer yes to your next reply and I will refute you.

    3. Love always existed? Where did that even come from? IDK where you are getting this crap but it doesn't make any sense or prove anything. Not sure why I even bothered to respond, what a waste of time...

  • @LOGICandREAS0N Why dont I accept the Quran? 1. It is Evil. The 350ad Codex Vatianus has ALLAHS name as The Beast for one. upside down and backwards. It has the Two swords as well. Islam is AntiChrist. We believe in that God took the form of a man (Christ) to DIE for sins. Gods Blood. Quran is against this, saying Jesus did not die on the cross. SO they deny the Blood of God on the cross. They deny the Deity of Jesus Christ. They deny the Power of his name. Now Part 2

  • @LOGICandREAS0N Part 2 Why. The Quran is evil. Daniel in the to talk to him. Many of the descriptions of Anti-Christ from the Bible are the same character as the Mahdi in Islam. There messiah. This mark of the Beast was misinterpeted untill recently. The translation meant The whole Arm with Hand and Badge of servatude. Band on the Head and Arm in Jihad. (Google it) saying a blashpemous declaration "allah is god and muhamad his prophet". Islam will use Nuclear to force its way.

  • @LOGICandREAS0N Thousands of Religons? The differecne between all of them and Christianity is huge. In congruity, and common sense. There is a consistent teaching though it was written by over 40 people over 1500 years. Christianity is the only one where you can 'KNOW' absolutly that when you die you have a place in heaven. Jesus is the only one to say Love your enemy. When you simply compare Christ to Muhammad words you can easlily see which one is worth listening to.

  • @LOGICandREAS0N Well I can say I dont expect to gain anything out of talking with you or anyone here on youtube accept the possible adoption to the Father who will never leave. I care enough simply to tell the Gospel of Salvation. To point the way. There is a ton of things you can find to prove what your asking. If you do nothing else. Check out the Isaiah 53 Codes by Chuck Missler. Give me that at least.

  • @NoneBeforeNoneAfter OMFG dude WTF! I can't even comprehend how your mind got his close minded and ignorant. You have a distorted view of reality and can't grasp basic concepts. You can quote Bible passages all day, but that does nothing to prove any of it is reliable or accurate. You claim the Quran is evil, yet you follow the Bible? Have you even read the fucking thing?

    Obviously you are no different than most Christians. You take out what you like, and ignore the rest....

  • @LOGICandREAS0N Eventually, your religion will be no different than Greek mythology. I cannot wait until the day that you wake up and realize the truth.

    I can quote genocide and immoral teachings in the Bible all day long and you'd probably make some excuse about interpretation or context. Read the whole Bible and get back to me...

    It's not moral, it isn't reliable, there is no evidence of your personal god, stop making claims.

  • @LOGICandREAS0N Does your face turn red when you talk like this? Are you shaking with anger? WHY?

  • @NoneBeforeNoneAfter Actually, just the opposite. UMAD because you are ignorant and deep down you know that you can't prove that a god exists?

  • @LOGICandREAS0N sorry you're seeing blind and hearing deaf. A Christian knows that God is not taught from the Bible but because he shows up.

  • @pbandstra First, I wouldn't say that all Christians would agree with your statement.

    I could say the same thing about the flying spaghetti monster, just look outside, and all around you. His noodely appendages created everything so perfectly!

    Face it, you were brought up believing in a lie. Read a book other than the Bible. Anyone that makes an honest effort to learn, and doesn't have a closed mind will come to the same conclusions as I have.

  • @LOGICandREAS0N your response is clear proof of what I'm saying you have no idea who or what God is and what His Word content. If He heals people who​by medical science to no more cure given, on another way ensures that people can be helped, He exists

  • @pbandstra WTF! Alright dude, you are a fucking troll. How difficult is this for you?

    Prayer is a placebo. I'll repeat that because apparently you can't read.

    Prayer is a PLACEBO.

    How about you spend 5 minutes of your time and do some research about prayer and what it does. All you are doing is wishful thinking.

    If you honestly believe that people are healed because of prayer, you didn't do what I asked you in the above statement.

  • @LOGICandREAS0N You have no right to respond if you do not research and read something other than the Bible for once in your life.

  • @LOGICandREAS0N You have yet to provide one important logical point against God when I can show you Prophesy evidence. LUKE 21:20-28 came true. (70AD) Blind Guides you stray in the net and swallow a camel. Duet 28:64. Then the Lord will scatter among all nations...Zech 7:14 I scattered them with a whirlwind among all the nations.. Recent. Zechariah 12:2-3 Recent..."Behold I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about...

  • @LOGICandREAS0N 40 Authors and 66 Books is proof. Christ would Be Born in Bethlehem, Preceded by a messenger , Enter Jerusalem on a colt, Be Betrayed by a friend, Have his hands and feet pierced, Be wounded and whipped by his enemies, Be sold for thirty pieces of silver, Be spit upon and beaten, The betrayal money thrown in the temple and used for a potters field, Cast lots for Jesus' clothing. Tons of archeological finds. Crucifixion started about 519 BC

  • @NoneBeforeNoneAfter If I was a god, I guarantee I wouldn't have to make some stupid loophole and sacrifice myself. That is honestly retarded.

    I really hope you don't take the Bible literally. If you are a creationist, I have lost a lot of respect for you as a person.

  • @LOGICandREAS0N I think you are a person who likes to disect things where people try to present something you may not already believe. I enjoy talking with people who like to search for things that are absolute truths. I have more respect for you than some of the other morally sick atheists. God or no God. There is a moral line which many people cross that is not even worthy to be called human behavior. My children are free to search out 'God or no God' and Religon on there own.

  • @LOGICandREAS0N If you once open your eyes and ears, you find out that more true prayer can cure where doctors give up. There is scientific evidence that God exists. Go and without prejudice to find the Truth.

    So go find yourself without others are lying about. Start looking for origin of life and what it takes to get it. Scientifically speaking, there is need to live life to gain, so no hypotheses but life

    I've studied a lot and can find no evidence that God does not exist.

  • @pbandstra Scientific evidence that god exists? Clearly you can't be serious...

    You are moron. I can say the same thing about unicorns. "I have studied a lot and can find no evidence that unicorns don't exist"

    Do you even realize that nothing can be 100% disproved?

    Prove Santa doesn't exist. Same thing as trying to prove your god doesn't exist.

    I can already tell that you are a waste of time and energy. You can respond all you want and you still won't come up with evidence.

  • “This short documentary has totally rocked my world . . . I dare you to watch 180.” Mark Hall - lead singer, Casting Crowns

    “My friend Ray Comfort has produced a powerful piece of media that leaves a lasting mark on your heart and mind. ‘180’ is 33 minutes of video adrenaline, shock, and hope. As defenders of the unborn and messengers of the Gospel of Life, we need to see this video and share it with as many people as we can.” Kirk Cameron - Actor 180movie.com or 180 movie on you tube

  • Don Francisco wrote He's Alive. Other musicians later used it This is a very old version.

  • When I first heard this song it was being sang by a woman so I thought it was suppose to be Martha but now it being sang by a man I think it's Peter.

  • @VaSiLiSTheKiLLeR stop trolling bro. if you wanna believe at the beginning of time nothingness evolved from totally nothing to countless planets and countless start and a perfect design,then go for it, I on the other hand, have this thing called a brain and allowed me to think thoughts.

  • This is probably one of the best Jesus songs I've EVER heard!

    Dynamics are most important to me as it speaks directly to me heart. I praise the Lord, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit!

    Thank you Jesus for this tremendous gift you have given Don!

  • Brought me to tears. 

  • Beautiful video, thankyou.

    God bless you.

  • What a top performance, Well done.. God is within you, subbed

  • Hey, I just wanted to let you know that "Christian Artist Awakens Hip Hop" is finally on Youtube. please take a look . I promise you will be surprised, and if you Rocx with it, then spread the word to fam, friends, and your true homies because its a movement and we move as a unit. Oh yea Comment and Like.Thank You

  • i love you jesus praise the lord!!! my lord and saviour<3 amen! love you no homo tho!!!! hahahahaha

  • praise god!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Surfingrox386 gotta caps that dude pretty important

  • swag 666

  • YEsss He´s Alive. Amen

  • Why, when i type in Christian music, do i not get metal?

  • Some lyrics please?

  • HES ALIVE,OUR LORD IS ALIVEIN U,U PAY THE CONSEQUENCES BY THE CROSS U PAY FOR JESUS,IN THE WAY THAT WHEN U TREAT OTHERS,BAD,TO MAKE THEM SUFFER,THE ONE GETTING HURT PAYS,FOR A WHILE BUT THE ONE DOING THE HURT IS THE ONE WHO PAYS MORE,AND FOREVER,MILLIONS GET HURT,IS WHEN U KILL JESUS IN BODY,MIND,HEART,SOUL,AND WHEN U GET UP STANDAND DONT SATISFY THE THE ANIMAL OF SATAN THAT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST IS MUCH TRIUMPHANT,MERCIFUL,AND STRONGER WITH TOGETHER THEN ALONE,HE IS A KING,FATHER DO HIS WILL.

  • Blind faith in this crap is responsible for more death and misery than anything else.

  • If anyone in the name of Christianity brings death and misery, then it is not of God, and therefore not true Christianity. Many say they are of Him, but as Jesus said, you can recognize a tree by it's fruit. A true Christian will be known by their love; in fact we are not to love only those who love us but those who hate us. Please don't be offended, I am only trying to clarify one of the misunderstandings that keep people from knowing the true God.

  • (responding to posts further down)

    Respond to this video... 

  • Yes my Jesus is ALIVE! PRAISE GOD!

  • YESH!!! I sound this song in church and I -3 this song.AND I FOUND IT!!

  • Praise the Lord...He is alive and I'm forgiven

  • Churches may get this video for a limited time. Download link is in the Video Information above.

  • Is there any way I can obtain a copy of this video? I am singing this song on sunday for Easter and would love to play this video as a powerpoint to add to the song.

  • @2005durham Click on Show More

  • @2005durham Click on show more

  • I'm not a "Bible thumper", but I am a Christian. I would recommend a book called "The Case For Christ" by Lee Strobel. Christians read it to bolster your faith. Non-believers read it as a challenge to your unbelief. Think it through, do not dismiss it until you have read it. You may or may not agree with what the author has concluded. But, be open to the idea that maybe, there is historical validation to The Life, death, & resurrection of Jesus. Do, at least, read it with an open mind.

  • @NoneBeforeNoneAfter "OUR GOD CONTRACTED TO A SPAM, INCOMPREHENSIBLY MADE MAN!" C.S. LEWIS. ISAIAH 9:6.

  • hell yeah- when i was a little shit my mom took us hemmens auditorium back in 1981 to check out don francisco. KICKASS -he's one of my main influences! HE'S ALIVE!!!

  • Don't ask WE who BELIEVE....Maybe the earthquake in Christchurch, Iceland is a sign and wonder. Hmmm. Could be??....John 4:1-42. Oh yeah there's that too esp. verse 42. True or False? JESUS is ALIVE...FAITH INDEED!!!

    Philippians 2:5-8 YES SIREE!!!

  • Let's pray for those 23 people who disliked this video..

  • @tonywillreign AMEN TONY GOT THAT RIGHT NOW it's 24!!! 

  • its amzing

  • Loved this song way back when and it can still bring a tear of joy to my eye.

  • This clip is very powerful..I really feel the

    holy spirits anointing on the song this and

    Angus Del "worthy is the lamb" meditate on the footage very inspireing, Thank you Lord for showing your people this.. Praise you Lord!! Thank YOU Jesus!! Thank YOU Jesus! All Praise to YOU! Amen.

  • He is Alive! Look around, the plants testify there was One that was dead and is Alive for evermore.

  • He's Alive that we too might be alive. We should shout it from the roof tops and let others know. We should not sit around and be idle and appear dead we should show life.

  • This is a very beautiful, moving, emotional song, yes, BUT the fact remains: MORTAL MEN conceived of and wrote ALL religious books, tomes, and manuscripts in all of history. The Christians think they're right... the Jews think they're right... the Muslims think they're right, and all of them with blind fanaticism and fervor! Could it be that all religions are a sham and akin to cults???!!!

  • @AudiophileTubes if you don't believe in God there is no way you could understand that the scriptures were God-breathed and annointed. religions are not what He wants anyway. He wants relationships. have a little faith and seek Him out and you will know what is true and what is not. i'll be praying for you.

  • @AudiophileTubes Putting Jews, Christians and Muslims together is a a lot of people! Maybe there is some truth in what they believe in even though they may not all agree on everything but they do believe in a creator GOD. Instead of being outright sceptic, you might want to consider what you can learn from them and why so many people believe

  • @AudiophileTubes Man I,m a scientist and believe in the Bible, because I make a study about that and can say in this book have a codes, scientifc informations, whith a total impossibility of man make, at before a many centuryes ago, not have a comparation! Its wonderfull ! if you want, say any class of science and I say for you where you found in the bible what you dont found in other books around the world!!

  • @Lukasmspereira What codes? There are no codes, and so called 'prophecy' is open to interpretation, and it is not wholly clearcut. Most scientists do not believe in man made (man written) religion. They mostly may believe in a 'superior being' directly, without the dogma that man espouses via their writings in all their religious books they wrote (including The Bible).

  • @AudiophileTubes How arrogant of anyone to assume that all of this around you was an accident. Man created nothing, God created everything. Take with you from birth your knowledge alone in the dark and see if even given ten thousand years you could come up with all that IS today or ever was in history. You could not, even given 1 million years, man is not capable and neither is nature itself!

  • i love this song!

  • Wow, what a blessing. What a great video and well put together--very inspiring. You did an excellent job on this. We really appreciate you sharing it.

  • @NoneBeforeNoneAfter  PAYDAY IS COMING. GREAT VIDEO.

  • Hey man, thanks for your video, I see that you've already blessed 278 thousand viewers with it!

    In my channel there's a link to let YouTube play all Don Francisco's songs one after the other automatically. (So people don't have to look them up one by one)

  • Oh Lord, I pray that by Your Holy Hand You will release my wife of 41 years from the bondage of alcoholism. In the name of Your Son, my Savior, Jesus Christ, I pray.

  • @RevFrJoel1 I stand in agreement with you brother, don't give up, and remember Jesus is alive!

  • @RevFrJoel1

    I am in agreement with you my Brother....Starman

  • @RevFrJoel1 Given the huge amount of suffering and pain in the world it's fair to say that God has bigger fish to fry that your wife drinking herself stupid. How about getting real. Stop making yourself feel better by wasting time praying.

  • @RevFrJoel1 she has to love herself before she can quit... prayers wont work sahe has to have the desire to stop and love from you wont make her stop you need to tell her you will leave her if she doesnt stop.(toughLove)

  • I love this song! Is timothy youngblood the orig,singer for this song?

  • He is very definitely alive. Tell somebody about it everyday!!!

  • A Great song

  • Beautiful song! I love religious superstition because of the devotion it generates. The worlds religions have generated some of the most magnificent art in service to their gods.

  • I first heard this song while watching Apocalypse. He is Risen indeed. One question. What movie are the clips from? I would love to have that movie in my collection.

  • one of the First contemorary Christian song I heard after i was saved...what a wonderfull memory...need to get that First Love back......

  • He is INDEED alive-and one day every knee will bow before the risen Christ. Are you with him-or without him ? Because it's the only choice you'll ever make that truly matters...

  • My uncle did this song for special music when it was a new song. There was no dry eye in the entire congregation. The song "Pieces" by RED speaks to the younger crowd the same way this song spoke to the people of the 70's and 80's. Praise Jesus!

  • I needed Jesus so much.... Became a Christian..... Was on fire for Him, none could believe the change........fell back, then further........ I finally opened my hands and begged His forgiveness; He Did. The battles have not gone away and, yes, I have failed too many times, But He has never Failed me. Sound familiar ? If so, let`s come together and pray His Victory in this life He has given us. PRAY for All of US..... In Him, Stephen C. Horning-Lockwood

  • @Greysword1

    Yes brother familiar, too familiar but yes HE IS FAITHFUL he pulled me from certain death again and I continue to struggle. Today im on a mountain top and im learning the power of prayer. I will pray for you. Thank God he is faithful and he will finish in us the great work that he started. HES ALIVE!!! we already have the victory!!! Praise God!!

  • My father said that he knew this guy, DOn, the one who wrote this song, and whenever he sang it at their church when he was younger, and the Spirit of God was so thick and could be felt by everyone.

    He said it was amazing.

    A guy at my church sings this song and it's so amazing to listen to. I love it.

  • thanks jesus

  • pictures from legend of the Seeker?

  • @Ericman2043  nvm!

  • jesus is god read the begging of john "the word became flesh" " the word was with god and was god"

  • This was definately an annointed song!

  • The Father,Son,And Holy spirit all act as one. When you are Baptised into Christ and become a Christian, you will receive the Holy spirit that dwells within you. He is the comforter, the teacher of all wisdom and knowledge..Amen.

  • If you were a Christian and read the bible, you would understand that the "trinity", all act together as one, Father,Son,And Holy Spirit. If you are Baptised in Christ, the Holy Spirit dwells in you, and HE will give you all knowledge, and understanding of all things..

  • you should free the mind and start forming your own theories based on individual thought instead of following which contradicts science, logic, and common sense.

  • you should free the mind and start forming your own theories based on individual thought instead of following which contradicts science, logic, and common sense.

  • lol your all victims of a lack of imagination and an undying itch to know the truth, thus your reckless desperate hold on christianity, however it is christianity that has the hold on you.

  • I have to agree with another comment on another video of this song by Don Francisco. You cannot turn this video loud enough!!! Oh, my I have always wanted to turn up the volume on the last lines of the song as I hear it, now I have a visual! Praise God...thank you. Jesus IS alive and it is the day after Easter 2010...still alive. YES!

  • I still love this song...gives me goose bumps!! praise his name!

  • I still love this song...gives me goose bumps!! praise his name!

  • Good job mixing the pictures!

  • This song is anointed

  • This is my all-time favorite Easter song, and it is still very moving even years after it was originally recorded. :-)

  • Good stuff! It's good to remember the true meaning of Easter.

  • Over 30 years ago my late brother in law introduced me to this song. It has been my favorite since then. Long ago I lost the album so thank you for uploading this version.

  • Halleluiah, Jesus saved us all, His suffering means freedom for us all, I am forgiven, Amen!

  • It ain't about easter eggs...He is Alive

  • this is so good.

  • "He's alive and I'm forgiven!" Thank God!

  • God just loves everyone, he only hates Sin that entered trough people into the world and Sin itself has to be punished because he is righteous , and because he knows we all failed, and still he loves us and was us to become cleansed , His Word became flesh and Gods love became visible, the one without Sin Took our sins upon himself in order that we can be forgiven if we just put our Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ in love we shall walk, and shall no longer be judged but shall be forgiven

  • what if I am one of the soldiers, who hammered hi him to the CROSS and are willing to go on without too much of remorse, just because it was my duty. But still believe it was right thing to for the sake of the duty. " still doing at ii inn his service"

  • He said: Father Forgive them for they do not know what they are doing, just ask him to come into your heart and ask him for his forgiveness, if you truly repent of your ways he is Just and righteous to forgive you of your Sins for that reason he came down in the flesh to take upon himself the Sins of the World if you just ask him to place his throne of Love and righteousness into your heart he will form you into a perfect being of love, God is love and we are made in his image, walk in love

  • Jesussssssssssssssss!!!!!!

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  • @ojanddiane897 But you will be in my prayers.Di

  • C..(created one[Jesus] can not be God)Pauls teaching made hard to comprehend.These are not Jesus teachings in Gospels.Jesus said:Worship the Lord your God, & serve him only{Matt4:10} your Father, to my God and your God{john 20:17}

    john 12:49 verse show that Jesus was bound to obey Gods orders. Can obeying person be God.

    john 13:16 a servant is not greater than his lord,

    john 14:28my Father is greater than I.

    clearly show that Jesus is servant & inferior to God. Can servant be God, Lord?

  • The SON The Father The Holy Spirit have the same Nature and Substance. Uncreated, co-exist, co-create and co-rule, Sinless, Power, Glory. GOD is a hierarchy Three in One .Father has lead authority. Jesus does the Fathers will. The Father gives anything the Son asks for. Jesus would not ask amiss. As long as the Father existed Jesus existed. As long as Jesus existed the Holy Spirit exsisted. God never changes. Jesus never changes. Never have never will. Eternal Past and Future.

  • brother

    i gave you many logical with biblical proofs but you merely describe your faith.

    i want to understand your faith with logic, reason.

    i believe faith should be clear, unembigious not mistry.

    for while can you show me one clear statement of Jesus he claimed himself God?

    i need not merely faith.

    if your faith is true, and it is universal truth,

    that truth can not contradicts logic & reason.

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  • 4...to be seem Jesus divinity, contradict the others, Im proving you with quotations that your interpretations (Jesus divinity) contradict the bible also. If one thing contradicts, between 2, 1 remains correct not 2 both.

    While, among commandments is:"You shall not make for yourself an idol or image of God in the form of anything[exo20]

    But you are going against this commandment. You make a wrong image of God.I asked also:if Jesus is God, then why Luke, matthew said:Jesus the son of Joseph

  • "...CHRIST JESUS...being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

    --Philippians 2:5-8

    GOD CHOSE TO DO SO.. Why do you reject HIS LOVE? Joseph was a mere tool, a vessel, a servant.

  • It is more like Joseph was adopted father for 14 or so years. What you are missing is WHY would God come in the flesh. What was the purpose. When we tell you that purpose you wont listen. "There is none without sin, no not one" How does God reconcile himself with man? How can men ever do enough to please GOD? You cant. It is His righteousness not ours. Only by applying the Blood of Messiah to your account can we truly be saved. It Removes your sin. A sinner cannot enter the kingdom of God.

  • A..These are your interpretations, not of Jesus. Bring Jesus interpretations(Jesus words) that he ever said all these things which you wrote..?

    & what do you mean by Joseph was tool.? Did Luke not describe that Jesus was the seed of Joseph? Meanwhile, it is also said Jesus is begotten son of God.

    So who was responsible for birth of Jesus God or Joseph?

    Your interpretations are not but wasting the time. I demand you to show clear, unambiguous statement of Jesus proving his divinity.....

  • Now you started another strange uncomprehending & illogical argument.

    1st tell, Can God be unjust?

    No doubt, God is not unjust

    Then, how it is possible he put his beloved son to death.

    For example, if your son is innocent & caused to death, for his friends crime. Do you will let it to happen? Do you consider it justice? I sure youll not, then how it is possible for God or any other innocent person.

    This faith is far away from logic & reason too. And it is also against the OT.....

  • C.... The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son[Ezekiel 18:20]

    According to this verse, why Jesus would be crucified, while he was the righteous one.

    Do you not see bible contradicts your ideas?

    This thought raised many questions. 1-if Jesus went willingly to cross, then why he invoked that GOD FORSOOK HIM? 2-If Jesus was God, then GOD DIED for three days on the cross.....

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  • D......This thought raised many questions. 1-if Jesus went willingly to cross, then why he invoked that GOD FORSOOK HIM? 2-If Jesus was God, then GOD DIED for three days on the cross. While OT says repeatedly:God the Living. It shows God cant die.

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  • @slaveofAllah73 You are taking scripture out of context a graven image is like in Exodus when Moses brother Aaron made a molten calf and they worshipped it instead of who they were to worship.That is a graven image.Di

  • prove wrong with logic all my comments which you see here.

    i will read carefully.

    i think all christian should read all bible with context.

    OT has its own meaning which has many verses are against the christian interpretations.

    if you read NT in light of OT and Jesus' words you will find quite difference.

    faith is not only faith.

    it should be easy to comprehend not mistry.

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  • If Jesus was GOD, then how come in John 5:37 he said "And the FATHER who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard HIS voice nor seen HIS form," Jesus and the GOD are different. People heard Jesus, but never heard GOD

    Can God temped by satan Matthew 4 says Jesus was tempted (if he s God) why he was tempted while bible says God can not be tempted by satan. [James 1:13]

    if Jesus was God then why Matthew & Luke wrote his Genealogy & said Jesus the son of Joseph.

  • Part 1...Jesus Christ has Always exsisted. Jesus Christ was ALWAYS the Son with the Father with the Holy Spirit AS THE ONE GOD. Part 2. Satan tried to tempt Jesus Lord....ISAIAH 14..(5 I's) Satan tries to do MORE than tempting GOD. What this means is that TEMPTATION does not WORK with GOD. God knew peoplw would TRY "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord your God" is the commandment tha many broke. Its a SIN to try and tempt GOD. EXAMPLE.I can try and tempt Joe to go fishing but Joe will never go fishing

  • God will never be tempted to do something against his NATURE. Rather..Try and Pray for things of GOD.. We should NOT pray for things against GODS WILL.. Example if I prayed ""God please give me control over all nations" of the world"...I would be breaking one of the 10 commandments. It would never HAPPEN.. ANY and all attempts to try and get GOD to do our will instead of HIS WILL will never work... It is impossible for GOD to do something against his NATURE..Its also Impossible for GOD to LIE..

  • 2....Bible says: God can not be tempted by satan.[James 1:13]according to you ISAIAH 14 says that Jesus tempted by satan and he tries to do more(which is not actually in Isaiah 14). If God can be tempted then what is correct, can be tempted or can not be tempted. This is a contradiction. Between 2 opposite statements 1 should be correct. So what is correct?

    Your answer does not clarify my question. I did not ask that is tempting God sin.......

  • 3....God is sin or not. My question is: if Jesus is God himself then why he was tempted (Matthew 4) while bible says: God can not be tempted by satan.[James 1:13]

  • TRY..People TRY to tempt God all the time.. If I jump from a tall building and ask God to catch me. Result is a Dumb Dead person.. God will not give in. . JIHAD tempts God all the time. Believing God will respond to Suicide Bombing. and give to them rewards for Blowing Themselves up. The tempting of God will not yield any reward... Because it was Notthe will fo God.. Christ did not give in to temptation. Many Prophets have given in to some temptations. Perhaps Muhammad gave in to temptations..

  • You did not provide any verse from bible where did Jesus say:Im God and worship me. You just proclaiming your faith(under the Pauls teachings, not of Jesus).

    If Jesus was God, then why did he not clearly say: I am God. But no way, you cannot show this because Jesus never claimed divinity.