That would be the case if the Prophet had sub-oscillators. It does not, though, so if a MoPho is poly chained to a Prophet you would not use the sub-oscillators on the MoPho if you wanted the voice to match.
No. Polychaining is for extending polyphony (maximum # of simultaneous keys that can be played) between instruments of the same voice architecture. You can polychain Tetra with MoPho, Tetra, and Prophet. Evolver can polychain with any other Evolver.
I own the Prophet '08 & let me tell you it sounds MUCH BETTER after I modified it by removing the entire front panel & then taking a HUGE SHIT inside. Wonderful.
@scott93257 I believe name Sequential came along from the fact that Mr. Smith started development of electronic instruments from sequencer modules. Anywho, the Sequential Circuits was such a great company name, not to say that Dave Smith Instruments is bad or anything, but Sequential Circuits has such a great ring to it and fantastic legacy.
Im sorry for the silly question but does the mopho module has an on/off switch, or does it works like the tetra module (it gets on as soon as you plug it it) ? Could that possibly be, in long term, hazardous to the synth?
@DaveSmithInstruments Thanks! Oh, is the audio input mono, like the moog's, or stereo? A lot of misleading info about the control panel. Can we acess more or less the same parameters on the module that we can on the keyboard, without having to use the software, or does the keyboard allows you to control stuff that you can only control on the module via the software?
Audio input is mono. All features can be accessed via the front panel. The keyboard version just gives you more immediate access and less menu diving than the desktop.
@DaveSmithInstruments Thank you for all the replies. I am the proud owner of a mopho module. Its not as half complicated as I antecipated, and I am seriously considering upgrading it with the keyboard version for a 2 voice synth. Mindbending analogue sounds, no need to warm up, no need to tune it every 30 minutes and most of all, no need to save 2000 dollars to have speaker crushing basses and leads.
@DaveSmithInstruments Thanks for the reply :) I havent tried either versions of the mopho as neither one is available in near shops (internet is the way to go). The keyboard version allows easy "hands on" acess. Can I control the same parameters that I do on the keyboard, without having to use the software (even if it means more menu editing) ? And is the audio input mono, or stereo?
I like this feature quite a bit. It still works out to be a decent value for the 5 or 6 voices after purchasing these two or three synths. Not to mention they are HARDWARE SYNTHS! Im almost anti softsynth, haha. But everyone has their likes/dislikes. Anyways, my question is...
Can the Mopho keyboard edit ANY and EVERY parrameter of both the Tetra 4 and the Mopho desktop without using the software??
You can edit/access 99% of all parameters. You can't access the few things on the Tetra the MoPho doesn't have, like Combo mode or stack/split. Although technically not setup to control Multi mode, there's a work-around where it is possible use the MoPho Keyboard to program each voice individually on the Tetra though.
Poly chaining is for instruments with similar voice architectures to extend polyphony, or the maximum number of simultaneous notes that can be played. You can trigger the notes on the Evolver with the MoPho keyboard though. You can poly chain the MoPho to the Tetra and the Prophet, and you can poly chain any Evolver to another Evolver.
Yes. The MoPho hardware physically only has one voice (hence the namesake Mo no Pho nic), so if you play it alone it will remain monophonic. You can add more voices by poly chaining.
They don't. Poly chain is for extending polyphony, or the maximum number of simultaneous voices (keys) that can be pressed and its designed for playing chords. Combo mode is exclusive to the Tetra.
Yes. The MoPho Keyboard has 4 parallel 16 step sequencers. Each one can drive one of the 4 oscillators (2 main osc, 2 sub-osc) or be used for automation of envelopes, lfo's etc. All 4 sequences run simultaneously and they can't be chained one after the other, so 16 steps is the maximum although this can be extended with creative use of the routing matrix and the clock divide + lfo settings.
The only MIDI is between the MoPho Keyboard and the Tetra for poly chaining- they're not hooked up to a computer. The outputs from each instrument are running to an analog mixer and the audio you're hearing was recorded from the unbalanced stereo output on the mixer.
I love the sound of the Pro-One! But they are expensive and hard to find, and they often need at lot of TLC! Does the Mopho have a similar sound? I've heard that it at some point was supposed to have been named Pro-One II...
It's similar to the Pro One with more flexibility. The desktop says "Pro One II" on the circuit board. Same Curtis filter as the old SCI stuff. It has an extra envelope, more LFO's, better sequencer, more routing flexibility, the MoPho doesn't have VCO's. There is an "osc slop" parameter, which will allow osc drift like VCO's.
It won't be identical, but the sound is more or less there. Just turn up osc slop, limit your use of LFO's and the extra envelope, and you'll get pretty close
I have a Tetra. can someone explain about loosing Combo mode when its poly-chained to the MoPHo KB...I don't understand... I use combo mode mostly, as my tetra is triggered by my MPC2500. I would like to be ably to access and edit the sound of the tetra better. Would the MoPho KB help me to edit this way as I'm using the Combo mode????
or do I just call it quits and pick up an Evolver! as it has hands on edit-ability....
You asked the same question a month ago, and here is the reply: "Combo mode is a feature exclusive to the Tetra, so there are no Tetra/MoPho combo possibilities. The poly chain feature is for extending polyphony, meaning you can play up to 5 simultaneous notes when a Tetra and a MoPho Keyboard are poly chained. You can also control all parameters of the Tetra from the MoPho when in program mode."
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hi dave i have a korg emx as a master - xoxbox slave - kaoss pad 3 all midi clocked and would like to introduce a nice keyboard for making my own personal patterns /loops.
can i load one shot samples or loops into this machine before purchasing and if i can how long in length can they be the emx wont do it and the kp3 is roughly seven seconds depending on bpm.cheers gary.
Our instruments are synthesizers, not samplers. This means all the sound is generated from within the instrument itself and you can't load external samples/loops into them. The beauty of the synthesizer is you can create almost any sound you can imagine, but you program it yourself rather than loading a sample.
hi all,i have a question.i was thinking of buying the mopho keyboard and was wondering can the osc's on this synth go out of tune,as it is analog?if so can one re-tune it automatically,or would it have to be sent to a pro?forgive me if the question is a bit silly,kinda new to synthesizers........help would be greatly appreciated =c)
The oscillators are kept in tune by a calibration routine. They also have a self calibration routine which you can run at any time if you feel like they need it, although you should never really need to do this.
What about the feedback of the Mopho if polychained with a Prophet 08? How does it work? The Prophet 08 doesn't have the feedback gain right? So not all the 9 voices will be distorted when in polychain, or am I wrong?
Correct. The Prophet does not have analog feedback so you would only hear feedback on 1 voice. When poly chaining with the Prophet you would turn off feedback and the sub-oscillators on the MoPho to maintain consistency across all voices.
Combo mode is a feature exclusive to the Tetra, so there are no Tetra/MoPho combo possibilities. The poly chain feature is for extending polyphony, meaning you can play up to 5 simultaneous notes when a Tetra and a MoPho Keyboard are poly chained. You can also control all parameters of the Tetra from the MoPho when in program mode.
i want a virus TI ...just a virus maybe the alesis andromeda too but not synth for " eglise" or " cathedrale" :) .. i plaisante ...just for laugt .....
i don't know the diferrence with a synth vst ....now the sound is too good ...take a vanguard, firebird , nexus, elec7ro , you can have this sound for free ....where you used this sound ??? what style of music used this sound??
@FrenchClub1 the analog warmth is not in a vst, this is an ongoing argument but it really comes down to the fact that analog synths are fatter, better sounding, and overall way more funXD
Of course you can use the MoPho as a controller for other synths, but adding voices is for extending polyphony is to increase the maximum number of simultaneous notes played with the identical sound. This means you'd need to do it with our instruments to achieve the same sound on multiple notes.
The point of poly chaining is to create more playable notes of the same sound. You need a synth with the same voice architecture to take advantage of poly chaining.
You can play the Evolver from the MoPho Keyboard, but you can't poly chain with it. You can poly chain any Evolver to another Evolver though. Example: Mono Evolver Keyboard plays 1 note at a time. Poly chain to a Poly Evolver Rack (plays 4 notes at a time on its own), and you'll have 5 voices total together
5 is a magical number indeed! Sequential Circuits Prophet-5 who turn the music world around, courtesy of Sir. Dave Smith himself, not to mention the Memorymoog's five voices, as well.
@dvamateur So the guy who designed Sequential Prophets and Prophet VS, and Wavestation, and Evolvers and who is as legendary as Curtis and Moog is just like that on YouTube and talking to everyone?
Is there a limit as to how many Mophi (?) and Tetras you can daisy-chain? I mean, theoretically you could end up with an instrument that could outdo the Prophet-08 (but you'd probably be better off just getting the Prophet-08).
It disturbs me that Dave can't seem say the word "Prophet 5"?
Instead he holds out his right hand and says, "5 voices, which is kind of a magical number for an analog synth..." as if he is actually forbid to say the word Prophet 5.
I realize that the Mopho + Tetra does not = Prophet 5. But, why Can't it be? With just a few modifications and tweeks to Mopho keyboard, he could easily resurrect the most classic and sought after keyboard of all time.
@fredgsmht32 I'd say it's because even if you were to do that, you'd have an instrument that's the spiritual successor to the P5, but you wouldn't *have* a P5. The only way you'd get that is to actually build another P5, and I wonder if they're up to that task yet.
If they do, they should try to do something to set it apart from DSI's other instruments. The Prophet-08 always struck me as a Poly-Evolver without the digital waveforms. I don't want a new P5 to be a P-08 minus three voices.
That's exactly how the MoPho Keyboard is set up, and the purpose of this demonstration video. All parameters are mapped to the Tetra already, so once you plug in the MoPho Keyboard you don't ever have to touch the Tetra.
what an amazing synthesizer! i will be buying one at the end of december :) great sound, 100% analogue signal path, great looking too. looks like a winner to me!
I'm probably the worlds most ungrateful bitch but I've never heard the REAL Prophet instruments play anything that sounds as good as the Native Instruments Pro-53 plug-in.
I always said that I would buy a Prophet for the "Super-sync Lead" preset alone, but I've never heard the Mopho or the rest play anything that sounds as good :(
Go on, thumbs down me to oblivion - I probably deserve it for views as controversial as these
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no harm in that. I will point out the MoPho and the Tetra are based on the Prophet 08 voice architecture. They can load and play every patch on the Prophet 08, including Super-sync Lead, and they will sound identical. Cheers.
@DaveSmithInstruments Perhaps I should investigate further. I'm basing my opinions on the demos from Keyboard Wizards, who evidently doesn't favor sync-detuned sounds
Correct, the Prophet 08 does not have sub-oscillators. You'd want to turn the MoPho's sub-oscillators to 0 when poly chaining with a Prophet to match the voices.
@weaponEX watch?v=AHtgWCVknRs Listen to the difference between the arturia emulation (Which is more accurate sounding than the NI version) and the prophet V.
Its a personal preference I guess, that first patch on the NI pro53/52 is absolutely stunning although i've not found a use for it in music i've spent many hours just playing with it :) So i wouldn't worry about getting hate mail I would instead go and listen to the sounds from the era and listen to that prophet magic its got so much funk.
If I use my Prophet '08 and add a Tetra via Poly Chain, are the suboscillators disabled? When I set a stored program on my Prophet '08, does the Poly Chain transmit a full set of parameters to the Tetra including setting turning off the Tetra's sub-oscillators to make sure that each voice is creating the same sound, or do I have to do a data dump from the P08 to the Tetra before? What happens with the poly chain of a single Tetra paired with a Prophet '08 when you are using a keyboard split?
The 1st 2 banks on the Tetra -are- the Prophet banks, which makes poly chaining easy right out of the box. The sub-oscillators simply aren't used on the Prophet patches. You can still turn them up on the Tetra if you want but only the Tetra voices would have that characteristic.
When you press Write on the Prophet, the sounds are automatically saved to the Tetra too if you're in poly chain.
Using split in poly chain, you get an extra 2 voices on each side of the split, or stack too.
@DSI So if I have two banks of presets already on my P08, I can MIDI dump that to the Tetra and it will land in the first two banks, as long as the programs currently in the Tetra's first two banks don't have subosc settings, right? And then, I never need to touch the Tetra again. If I want subosc bass out of the tetra direct, I just plug in a different MIDI sender into the Tetra MIDI IN, select a program from Bank 3 or later, and my 128 Bank 1/2 presets I use with my P08 is untouched. Correct?
No need to dump Prophet programs to the Tetra if they are the factory programs- the same programs are already on both instruments.
You can simply check the sub osc and feedback parameters on any patch to determine if they are on or not. Any patch you send from the Prophet simply won't have those parameters turned on. You can also send any patch from the Tetra to the Prophet with the same result- the patch works fine, it just won't have feedback or sub osc.
can the keyboard send the arpeggiator midi cc to another synth to follow the same pattern? I just received my mopho keyboard and the global parameters seem to be set correctly.
Not in poly chain. The idea behind poly chain is extended polyphony, i.e. 5 voices for playing the keyboard up to 5 notes at a time.
You could have 5 independent sequencers with 4 sequences each if you put the Tetra in Multi mode which would give you 4 sequencers, and the MoPho would be the 5th.
Very nice, BUT if you make a keyboard version of the Tetr4, i'll be the first in line to buy one. With a 4 octave keyboard, of course. And 4 line outs. Please.
We aren't going to make one. We tried, but it just wasn't going to be worth the build cost for our customers so we made the MoPho Keyboard instead which controls every parameter on the Tetra.
@schmember 4 Octaves? NO, please bring back the "standard" 5 Octave 61 note keyboards!!! Oh, with the Mod/Pitch wheels located where they're supposed to be....on the left side of the keyboard.
When Poly-Chaining a the Mopho Keyboard to a Tetra, I assume that the Portamento is (now) Polyphonic? Is there a dedicated UNISON switch (like on the P5) on the Mopho's front panel instantly switch from unison to poly mode?
Yep, all functions go across both instruments when poly chained.
Unison on/off is in the Misc Parameters section. Once you navigate to it, Unison is instantly accessible with the turn of one knob for the remainder of the time you're editing that program. It's very easy to get to.
It's very easy. Just like the video says, connect a MIDI cable from the Poly Chain OUT on the MoPho going to the MIDI IN of the Tetra, set Poly Chain Out to 4 in the MoPho's menu and that's it!
@DaveSmithInstruments Is it possible to edit each patch in a Tetra combo independantly with a poly-chained Mopho keyboard if I have the audio out set to quad mode?
You wouldn't use poly chain for that. Poly Chain is for adding polyphony. It is possible to edit all parameters of each voice of the Tetra from the MoPho Keyboard when the Tetra is in multi mode simply by changing the MoPho Keyboard to each specific MIDI channel the Tetra's voices are set to.
Neat. Still wondering about whether I could use the Mopho I already have and the Evolver all together. I know the sounds are going to be different, but would a polychain work in that case if I had a Mopho and an Evolver attached, or is that going to hit some weird issue other than having to make sure the banks go together? Would the banks/sequences line up?
It doesn't work that way. Poly chaining is to increase polyphony with like instruments. The MoPho/Tetra/Prophet can all be chained because their voice architecture is the same and they use the same instruction set (CC & NRPN).
The Evolver can be chained with any other Evolver in the line to achieve the same results. However, the Evolver uses SysEx so beyond using a MoPho as a MIDI controller to trigger notes on it you can't poly chain an Evolver to a MoPho for increased polyphony
You could, but technically poly chaining is for using the instruments as a poly synth for playing. It would be possible to edit the individual voices on the Tetra by setting it to multi mode and then changing the MoPho keyboard's MIDI channel to reflect each voice, but technically that isn't what poly chain is designed to do.
However, you could definitely sync 5 sequences between the 2 instruments if that's what you're after.
When polychaining do you have to ensure that both the Mopho Key and the Tetra have the same sounds, or will the Tetra enslave itself to the Mopho, automatically adapting to the settings on the patches chosen on the Mopho?
Nice demo, Dave! I recently bought a Tetra (which I love BTW) so I was looking forward to seeing how it worked polychained to the Mopho KB. I was wondering if you can access all the Tetra parameters from the Mopho KB? What about combo mode? Thanks!
All the Tetra parameters are mapped to the MoPho for full control, with the exception of Multi and Combo (since the MoPho doesn't have these). However, you can still control each individual voice on the Tetra in Multi mode by changing to the appropriate MIDI channel on the MoPho Keyboard
Really nice one Dave! I have been asking for a hands on Mo'Pho for ages...sounds great! Like how you can chain them to make it poly. Now to get some of that hard to find cash to fund it lol
first i thought: so 70's, then i said: s0 90's. in a good way. sounds versatile, that's great!
2PlayGuitarNow 2 weeks ago
Since when was $800 affordable? Haha if only it was...
JakeMccloskeyMusic 2 weeks ago
is it possible to chain a microkorg to say a moog minitaur?
johngorgis 2 weeks ago
analog synths sounds so odd, flawless but somehow the sound seem to be more distant or placed different in the mix than digital synths :S
AuroralAscendancy 3 weeks ago
lol mo fo
MurdahPivot 3 weeks ago
this is awesome, I didn't know you could do this. I'm fascinated :) wasn't this synth originally intended to be a bass synth?
tranceemerson 3 weeks ago
0:52 how to make this type of modulation? I mean that pitch falling on the release.
thanks in advance!
kimseniorb 1 month ago
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kimseniorb 1 month ago
So does polychaining a Mopho to a Tetra means that I will get 6 oscillators + 6 sub-oscillators ?
iamKiluka 1 month ago
@iamKiluka
1 voice= 2 oscillators + 2 sub-oscillators
MoPho= 1 voice
Tetra= 4 voices
MoPho + Tetra= 5 voices= 10 oscillators + 10 sub-oscillators
DaveSmithInstruments 1 month ago
@DaveSmithInstruments Oh, so then as I understand, a Mopho Polychained to a Prophet 08 makes 9 voices, and then 18 oscillators + 18 sub-oscillators ?
iamKiluka 4 weeks ago
@iamKiluka
That would be the case if the Prophet had sub-oscillators. It does not, though, so if a MoPho is poly chained to a Prophet you would not use the sub-oscillators on the MoPho if you wanted the voice to match.
DaveSmithInstruments 4 weeks ago
does everybody know what mopho is short for???
tbamr 1 month ago
@tbamr Either monophonic or mother fucker. Still not quite sure which one though.
NiamorH 1 month ago
@NiamorH
It's a toss-up!
DaveSmithInstruments 1 month ago
@tbamr
MOnoPHOnic synthesizer
DaveSmithInstruments 1 month ago
@tbamr Monophonic?
dvamateur 1 month ago
can i polychain mono evolver with tetra
velliosant 1 month ago
@velliosant
No. Polychaining is for extending polyphony (maximum # of simultaneous keys that can be played) between instruments of the same voice architecture. You can polychain Tetra with MoPho, Tetra, and Prophet. Evolver can polychain with any other Evolver.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 month ago
I own the Prophet '08 & let me tell you it sounds MUCH BETTER after I modified it by removing the entire front panel & then taking a HUGE SHIT inside. Wonderful.
jls6318 1 month ago
@jls6318
Send us pic along with an audio sample, we'd love to check it out!
DaveSmithInstruments 1 month ago 15
@DaveSmithInstruments I sent the pic to your support email address... ENJOY!
jls6318 1 month ago
Ah... just saw the video with Sequential T8... Unbelievable. By the way, why is Yamaha holding so strong to Sequential Circuits name?
dvamateur 1 month ago
@dvamateur
Because Sequential is Bad ass :) and Yamaha knows it.
scott93257 1 month ago
@scott93257 I believe name Sequential came along from the fact that Mr. Smith started development of electronic instruments from sequencer modules. Anywho, the Sequential Circuits was such a great company name, not to say that Dave Smith Instruments is bad or anything, but Sequential Circuits has such a great ring to it and fantastic legacy.
dvamateur 1 month ago
Dave Smith is a Genius !
TheJabbathecut 1 month ago
He played a little part from Midnight Express. Giorgio Moroder is up there with Jean Michel Jarre.
Pazak68 1 month ago
da shit
MrJumboshrimp7 2 months ago
that is cool, like that beginning sound
KelleyBates 2 months ago
Im sorry for the silly question but does the mopho module has an on/off switch, or does it works like the tetra module (it gets on as soon as you plug it it) ? Could that possibly be, in long term, hazardous to the synth?
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@AlexisNembrode
MoPho module does not have a power switch, it is the same as the Tetra in that way. It is not hazardous to the synth in long term use.
DaveSmithInstruments 4 months ago
@DaveSmithInstruments Thanks! Oh, is the audio input mono, like the moog's, or stereo? A lot of misleading info about the control panel. Can we acess more or less the same parameters on the module that we can on the keyboard, without having to use the software, or does the keyboard allows you to control stuff that you can only control on the module via the software?
AlexisNembrode 4 months ago
@AlexisNembrode
Audio input is mono. All features can be accessed via the front panel. The keyboard version just gives you more immediate access and less menu diving than the desktop.
DaveSmithInstruments 4 months ago
@DaveSmithInstruments Thank you for all the replies. I am the proud owner of a mopho module. Its not as half complicated as I antecipated, and I am seriously considering upgrading it with the keyboard version for a 2 voice synth. Mindbending analogue sounds, no need to warm up, no need to tune it every 30 minutes and most of all, no need to save 2000 dollars to have speaker crushing basses and leads.
AlexisNembrode 3 months ago
@DaveSmithInstruments Thanks for the reply :) I havent tried either versions of the mopho as neither one is available in near shops (internet is the way to go). The keyboard version allows easy "hands on" acess. Can I control the same parameters that I do on the keyboard, without having to use the software (even if it means more menu editing) ? And is the audio input mono, or stereo?
AlexisNembrode 4 months ago
I like this feature quite a bit. It still works out to be a decent value for the 5 or 6 voices after purchasing these two or three synths. Not to mention they are HARDWARE SYNTHS! Im almost anti softsynth, haha. But everyone has their likes/dislikes. Anyways, my question is...
Can the Mopho keyboard edit ANY and EVERY parrameter of both the Tetra 4 and the Mopho desktop without using the software??
If so, Im sold. ;)
drum4life42 4 months ago
@drum4life42
You can edit/access 99% of all parameters. You can't access the few things on the Tetra the MoPho doesn't have, like Combo mode or stack/split. Although technically not setup to control Multi mode, there's a work-around where it is possible use the MoPho Keyboard to program each voice individually on the Tetra though.
DaveSmithInstruments 4 months ago
Can you poly chain it to the desktop mono evolver as well?
drum4life42 5 months ago
@drum4life42
Poly chaining is for instruments with similar voice architectures to extend polyphony, or the maximum number of simultaneous notes that can be played. You can trigger the notes on the Evolver with the MoPho keyboard though. You can poly chain the MoPho to the Tetra and the Prophet, and you can poly chain any Evolver to another Evolver.
DaveSmithInstruments 5 months ago
those last chords were nice!!!
marknesium 5 months ago
so without the tetra it will remain monophonic?
V19torrent 5 months ago
@V19torrent
Yes. The MoPho hardware physically only has one voice (hence the namesake Mo no Pho nic), so if you play it alone it will remain monophonic. You can add more voices by poly chaining.
DaveSmithInstruments 5 months ago
what a sounds! it sounds like technobrass.
daftmusician 5 months ago
01:53 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
theHackerOfMayhem 5 months ago
sounds gorgeous.
windowlicker1 6 months ago
Magic number -_^
javiceres 6 months ago
Sounds incredible.
metalcore929 7 months ago
who are you!!!!!!!
NATUREstrings401 7 months ago
how do thetetra andmopho KB goincombo mode?
MrBoxxed 7 months ago
@MrBoxxed
They don't. Poly chain is for extending polyphony, or the maximum number of simultaneous voices (keys) that can be pressed and its designed for playing chords. Combo mode is exclusive to the Tetra.
DaveSmithInstruments 7 months ago
So, are these synths good for bass?
ultimatenerd22 7 months ago
@ultimatenerd22
Absolutely. With the sub-oscillators, the tuned feedback, and wide range of modulation possibilities these synths can make some mean bass lines.
DaveSmithInstruments 7 months ago
@DaveSmithInstruments Thanks man.
ultimatenerd22 7 months ago
Loverly, loverly sounding synths.. :-)
downfader2 8 months ago
can you put the tetra parches in the mopho?
009relic1 9 months ago
@009relic1
Yes, as well as the Prophet 08 patches. You can put the MoPho and Prophet 08 patches on the Tetra as well.
DaveSmithInstruments 9 months ago
so tetra 4 is full analog?
lukuntri 9 months ago
@lukuntri
Yes, the audio signal path is 100% analog on the Tetra, the MoPho, and the Prophet 08.
DaveSmithInstruments 9 months ago
@DaveSmithInstruments what does push it button do?
lukuntri 7 months ago
@lukuntri
It starts/stops a sequence, plays a note that you've assigned to it, and it can be used for tap-tempo.
DaveSmithInstruments 7 months ago
I want to know about the sequencer. can you sequence like maybe a drum beat on the mopho ?( standalone, no tetra)
SernoMusic 9 months ago
@SernoMusic
Yes. The MoPho Keyboard has 4 parallel 16 step sequencers. Each one can drive one of the 4 oscillators (2 main osc, 2 sub-osc) or be used for automation of envelopes, lfo's etc. All 4 sequences run simultaneously and they can't be chained one after the other, so 16 steps is the maximum although this can be extended with creative use of the routing matrix and the clock divide + lfo settings.
DaveSmithInstruments 9 months ago
I'm wondering Dave, are you running this all through digital MIDI or are your recording it with a microphone? It sounds great.
Comocks 9 months ago
@Comocks
The only MIDI is between the MoPho Keyboard and the Tetra for poly chaining- they're not hooked up to a computer. The outputs from each instrument are running to an analog mixer and the audio you're hearing was recorded from the unbalanced stereo output on the mixer.
DaveSmithInstruments 9 months ago
I love the sound of the Pro-One! But they are expensive and hard to find, and they often need at lot of TLC! Does the Mopho have a similar sound? I've heard that it at some point was supposed to have been named Pro-One II...
dep1001 11 months ago
@dep1001
It's similar to the Pro One with more flexibility. The desktop says "Pro One II" on the circuit board. Same Curtis filter as the old SCI stuff. It has an extra envelope, more LFO's, better sequencer, more routing flexibility, the MoPho doesn't have VCO's. There is an "osc slop" parameter, which will allow osc drift like VCO's.
It won't be identical, but the sound is more or less there. Just turn up osc slop, limit your use of LFO's and the extra envelope, and you'll get pretty close
DaveSmithInstruments 11 months ago
That last riff sounded awfully similar to the opening credits to A Clockwork Orange,
MASTERCON12 11 months ago
I have a Tetra. can someone explain about loosing Combo mode when its poly-chained to the MoPHo KB...I don't understand... I use combo mode mostly, as my tetra is triggered by my MPC2500. I would like to be ably to access and edit the sound of the tetra better. Would the MoPho KB help me to edit this way as I'm using the Combo mode????
or do I just call it quits and pick up an Evolver! as it has hands on edit-ability....
MrBoxxed 11 months ago
@MrBoxxed
You asked the same question a month ago, and here is the reply: "Combo mode is a feature exclusive to the Tetra, so there are no Tetra/MoPho combo possibilities. The poly chain feature is for extending polyphony, meaning you can play up to 5 simultaneous notes when a Tetra and a MoPho Keyboard are poly chained. You can also control all parameters of the Tetra from the MoPho when in program mode."
stickysf 11 months ago
@MRVELUOFFICIAL
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DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@DaveSmithInstruments
hi dave i have a korg emx as a master - xoxbox slave - kaoss pad 3 all midi clocked and would like to introduce a nice keyboard for making my own personal patterns /loops.
can i load one shot samples or loops into this machine before purchasing and if i can how long in length can they be the emx wont do it and the kp3 is roughly seven seconds depending on bpm.cheers gary.
BUZZDOG001 11 months ago
@BUZZDOG001
Our instruments are synthesizers, not samplers. This means all the sound is generated from within the instrument itself and you can't load external samples/loops into them. The beauty of the synthesizer is you can create almost any sound you can imagine, but you program it yourself rather than loading a sample.
DaveSmithInstruments 11 months ago
hi all,i have a question.i was thinking of buying the mopho keyboard and was wondering can the osc's on this synth go out of tune,as it is analog?if so can one re-tune it automatically,or would it have to be sent to a pro?forgive me if the question is a bit silly,kinda new to synthesizers........help would be greatly appreciated =c)
TangleTwister 1 year ago
@TangleTwister
The oscillators are kept in tune by a calibration routine. They also have a self calibration routine which you can run at any time if you feel like they need it, although you should never really need to do this.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
What about the feedback of the Mopho if polychained with a Prophet 08? How does it work? The Prophet 08 doesn't have the feedback gain right? So not all the 9 voices will be distorted when in polychain, or am I wrong?
djze90 1 year ago
@djze90
Correct. The Prophet does not have analog feedback so you would only hear feedback on 1 voice. When poly chaining with the Prophet you would turn off feedback and the sub-oscillators on the MoPho to maintain consistency across all voices.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@DaveSmithInstruments Thanks for the reply! Now it's everything more clear :)
djze90 1 year ago
Can you explain the Tetra / Mopho combo mode possibilities????
MrBoxxed 1 year ago
@MrBoxxed
Combo mode is a feature exclusive to the Tetra, so there are no Tetra/MoPho combo possibilities. The poly chain feature is for extending polyphony, meaning you can play up to 5 simultaneous notes when a Tetra and a MoPho Keyboard are poly chained. You can also control all parameters of the Tetra from the MoPho when in program mode.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
I think I will buy the tetra! I have the Evolver, but I really want to have more voices!
astroboomboy 1 year ago
Awesome, simply awesome
tranceemerson 1 year ago
i want a virus TI ...just a virus maybe the alesis andromeda too but not synth for " eglise" or " cathedrale" :) .. i plaisante ...just for laugt .....
FrenchClub1 1 year ago
same problem as allways nice sound but to few keys
cyberfennek 1 year ago
i don't know the diferrence with a synth vst ....now the sound is too good ...take a vanguard, firebird , nexus, elec7ro , you can have this sound for free ....where you used this sound ??? what style of music used this sound??
FrenchClub1 1 year ago
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FrenchClub1 1 year ago
@FrenchClub1 the analog warmth is not in a vst, this is an ongoing argument but it really comes down to the fact that analog synths are fatter, better sounding, and overall way more funXD
AbioticSneaker 1 year ago
I have this keyboard and it is sweet. Is it possible to add more voices with modules other than dsi?
ChemicalMethod 1 year ago
@ChemicalMethod
Of course you can use the MoPho as a controller for other synths, but adding voices is for extending polyphony is to increase the maximum number of simultaneous notes played with the identical sound. This means you'd need to do it with our instruments to achieve the same sound on multiple notes.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@DaveSmithInstruments
what about an evolver? would i be able to add voices with that??
ChemicalMethod 1 year ago
@DaveSmithInstruments what about an evolver? can i add polyphony with one of those, or does it have to be tetra or a prophet 08?
ChemicalMethod 1 year ago
@ChemicalMethod
The point of poly chaining is to create more playable notes of the same sound. You need a synth with the same voice architecture to take advantage of poly chaining.
You can play the Evolver from the MoPho Keyboard, but you can't poly chain with it. You can poly chain any Evolver to another Evolver though. Example: Mono Evolver Keyboard plays 1 note at a time. Poly chain to a Poly Evolver Rack (plays 4 notes at a time on its own), and you'll have 5 voices total together
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
5 is a magical number indeed! Sequential Circuits Prophet-5 who turn the music world around, courtesy of Sir. Dave Smith himself, not to mention the Memorymoog's five voices, as well.
dvamateur 1 year ago 2
Is that Dave Smith himself?
dvamateur 1 year ago 5
@dvamateur
Yes!
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago 8
@dvamateur So the guy who designed Sequential Prophets and Prophet VS, and Wavestation, and Evolvers and who is as legendary as Curtis and Moog is just like that on YouTube and talking to everyone?
dvamateur 1 year ago
@dvamateur yes, and he answers fan mail too.
PHAEDRIDER 1 year ago
Is there a limit as to how many Mophi (?) and Tetras you can daisy-chain? I mean, theoretically you could end up with an instrument that could outdo the Prophet-08 (but you'd probably be better off just getting the Prophet-08).
cubdukat 1 year ago
@cubdukat
You can poly chain up to 4 Tetras for 16 voice polyphony. You can only add 1 MoPho desktop since it doesn't have a poly chain out.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
It disturbs me that Dave can't seem say the word "Prophet 5"?
Instead he holds out his right hand and says, "5 voices, which is kind of a magical number for an analog synth..." as if he is actually forbid to say the word Prophet 5.
I realize that the Mopho + Tetra does not = Prophet 5. But, why Can't it be? With just a few modifications and tweeks to Mopho keyboard, he could easily resurrect the most classic and sought after keyboard of all time.
fredgsmht32 1 year ago
@fredgsmht32 I'd say it's because even if you were to do that, you'd have an instrument that's the spiritual successor to the P5, but you wouldn't *have* a P5. The only way you'd get that is to actually build another P5, and I wonder if they're up to that task yet.
If they do, they should try to do something to set it apart from DSI's other instruments. The Prophet-08 always struck me as a Poly-Evolver without the digital waveforms. I don't want a new P5 to be a P-08 minus three voices.
cubdukat 1 year ago
would it be possible to control the tetra voices with the mopho kb controls? i wanna buy a tetra, but its interface seems really anoying
mynmyself 1 year ago
@mynmyself
That's exactly how the MoPho Keyboard is set up, and the purpose of this demonstration video. All parameters are mapped to the Tetra already, so once you plug in the MoPho Keyboard you don't ever have to touch the Tetra.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@DaveSmithInstruments tetra, you have a new lover
mynmyself 1 year ago
1:53 naranja mecanica, wendi carlos???
djnur 1 year ago
has it got midi ?
09fod 1 year ago
@09fod
Absolutely. Poly chaining works via MIDI.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@DaveSmithInstruments gr8 i realy like this synth i just wish i could afford it : /
09fod 1 year ago
Can one Poly Chain Mopho with a DAW or a VST?
archebeats 1 year ago
@archebeats
Poly chaining is for extending the number of simultaneous notes you can play. It needs to be done with another MoPho, a Tetra, or a Prophet 08.
You can however, send polyphonic note data from the MoPho Keyboard to any DAW for controlling soft-synths, etc.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
what an amazing synthesizer! i will be buying one at the end of december :) great sound, 100% analogue signal path, great looking too. looks like a winner to me!
MrDjunity 1 year ago
I'm probably the worlds most ungrateful bitch but I've never heard the REAL Prophet instruments play anything that sounds as good as the Native Instruments Pro-53 plug-in.
I always said that I would buy a Prophet for the "Super-sync Lead" preset alone, but I've never heard the Mopho or the rest play anything that sounds as good :(
Go on, thumbs down me to oblivion - I probably deserve it for views as controversial as these
weaponEX 1 year ago
@weaponEX
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no harm in that. I will point out the MoPho and the Tetra are based on the Prophet 08 voice architecture. They can load and play every patch on the Prophet 08, including Super-sync Lead, and they will sound identical. Cheers.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago 6
@DaveSmithInstruments Perhaps I should investigate further. I'm basing my opinions on the demos from Keyboard Wizards, who evidently doesn't favor sync-detuned sounds
weaponEX 1 year ago
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Robbinsffxi 1 year ago
@Robbinsffxi
Correct, the Prophet 08 does not have sub-oscillators. You'd want to turn the MoPho's sub-oscillators to 0 when poly chaining with a Prophet to match the voices.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@weaponEX Also your listening to you tube demos.
LeoNacht 1 year ago
@weaponEX watch?v=AHtgWCVknRs Listen to the difference between the arturia emulation (Which is more accurate sounding than the NI version) and the prophet V.
Its a personal preference I guess, that first patch on the NI pro53/52 is absolutely stunning although i've not found a use for it in music i've spent many hours just playing with it :) So i wouldn't worry about getting hate mail I would instead go and listen to the sounds from the era and listen to that prophet magic its got so much funk.
sacredgeometry 1 year ago
If I use my Prophet '08 and add a Tetra via Poly Chain, are the suboscillators disabled? When I set a stored program on my Prophet '08, does the Poly Chain transmit a full set of parameters to the Tetra including setting turning off the Tetra's sub-oscillators to make sure that each voice is creating the same sound, or do I have to do a data dump from the P08 to the Tetra before? What happens with the poly chain of a single Tetra paired with a Prophet '08 when you are using a keyboard split?
danox574 1 year ago
@danox574
The 1st 2 banks on the Tetra -are- the Prophet banks, which makes poly chaining easy right out of the box. The sub-oscillators simply aren't used on the Prophet patches. You can still turn them up on the Tetra if you want but only the Tetra voices would have that characteristic.
When you press Write on the Prophet, the sounds are automatically saved to the Tetra too if you're in poly chain.
Using split in poly chain, you get an extra 2 voices on each side of the split, or stack too.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@DSI So if I have two banks of presets already on my P08, I can MIDI dump that to the Tetra and it will land in the first two banks, as long as the programs currently in the Tetra's first two banks don't have subosc settings, right? And then, I never need to touch the Tetra again. If I want subosc bass out of the tetra direct, I just plug in a different MIDI sender into the Tetra MIDI IN, select a program from Bank 3 or later, and my 128 Bank 1/2 presets I use with my P08 is untouched. Correct?
danox574 1 year ago
@danox574
No need to dump Prophet programs to the Tetra if they are the factory programs- the same programs are already on both instruments.
You can simply check the sub osc and feedback parameters on any patch to determine if they are on or not. Any patch you send from the Prophet simply won't have those parameters turned on. You can also send any patch from the Tetra to the Prophet with the same result- the patch works fine, it just won't have feedback or sub osc.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@DaveSmithInstruments Good stuff! Thank you!
danox574 1 year ago
I can't wait to get one of these babies and poly chain it to my Tetra :D
scotteza 1 year ago
Clockwork Orange :)
Pat138 1 year ago 24
can the keyboard send the arpeggiator midi cc to another synth to follow the same pattern? I just received my mopho keyboard and the global parameters seem to be set correctly.
ptando 1 year ago
@ptando
Nope. The arpeggiator and sequencer are internal only and cannot drive external gear.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
When poly-chained to a tetra would you be able to have 5 separate sequencers running simultaneously?
ptando 1 year ago
@ptando
Not in poly chain. The idea behind poly chain is extended polyphony, i.e. 5 voices for playing the keyboard up to 5 notes at a time.
You could have 5 independent sequencers with 4 sequences each if you put the Tetra in Multi mode which would give you 4 sequencers, and the MoPho would be the 5th.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
Very nice, BUT if you make a keyboard version of the Tetr4, i'll be the first in line to buy one. With a 4 octave keyboard, of course. And 4 line outs. Please.
( and in a deep royal red color - please ... ) .
schmember 1 year ago
@schmember
We aren't going to make one. We tried, but it just wasn't going to be worth the build cost for our customers so we made the MoPho Keyboard instead which controls every parameter on the Tetra.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@schmember 4 Octaves? NO, please bring back the "standard" 5 Octave 61 note keyboards!!! Oh, with the Mod/Pitch wheels located where they're supposed to be....on the left side of the keyboard.
1980sCoverband 1 year ago
And add the Programer Section like the P5 and make it 5-voices. It's Simple. I'll buy it.
1980sCoverband 1 year ago
Hey Dave,
When Poly-Chaining a the Mopho Keyboard to a Tetra, I assume that the Portamento is (now) Polyphonic? Is there a dedicated UNISON switch (like on the P5) on the Mopho's front panel instantly switch from unison to poly mode?
1980sCoverband 1 year ago
@1980sCoverband
Yep, all functions go across both instruments when poly chained.
Unison on/off is in the Misc Parameters section. Once you navigate to it, Unison is instantly accessible with the turn of one knob for the remainder of the time you're editing that program. It's very easy to get to.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@DaveSmithInstruments Would love to SEE a video of you explaining this hear how the Portamento sounds both polyphonically and in unison.
Thanks!
1980sCoverband 1 year ago
Love the DSI sound!
preamp81 1 year ago
wendy would be so proud
mynmyself 1 year ago
Would you be able to tell me how you polychained the mopho and tetra together?
absolutnotkiss 1 year ago
@absolutnotkiss
It's very easy. Just like the video says, connect a MIDI cable from the Poly Chain OUT on the MoPho going to the MIDI IN of the Tetra, set Poly Chain Out to 4 in the MoPho's menu and that's it!
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@DaveSmithInstruments Is it possible to edit each patch in a Tetra combo independantly with a poly-chained Mopho keyboard if I have the audio out set to quad mode?
qmulus1 1 year ago
@qmulus1
You wouldn't use poly chain for that. Poly Chain is for adding polyphony. It is possible to edit all parameters of each voice of the Tetra from the MoPho Keyboard when the Tetra is in multi mode simply by changing the MoPho Keyboard to each specific MIDI channel the Tetra's voices are set to.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
god of the synthesizer
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HazeTheRapper 1 year ago
Neat. Still wondering about whether I could use the Mopho I already have and the Evolver all together. I know the sounds are going to be different, but would a polychain work in that case if I had a Mopho and an Evolver attached, or is that going to hit some weird issue other than having to make sure the banks go together? Would the banks/sequences line up?
sonicvisions 1 year ago
@sonicvisions
It doesn't work that way. Poly chaining is to increase polyphony with like instruments. The MoPho/Tetra/Prophet can all be chained because their voice architecture is the same and they use the same instruction set (CC & NRPN).
The Evolver can be chained with any other Evolver in the line to achieve the same results. However, the Evolver uses SysEx so beyond using a MoPho as a MIDI controller to trigger notes on it you can't poly chain an Evolver to a MoPho for increased polyphony
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
@DaveSmithInstruments
Figured that would be the case, but I could hope. :)
Thanks for the info regardless - still hoping to eventually get my hands on one of these.
sonicvisions 1 year ago
Can you have five (different) synced sequences running with a mopho and tetra chained? These sound great for synthpop.
Biopharmer 1 year ago
@Biopharmer
You could, but technically poly chaining is for using the instruments as a poly synth for playing. It would be possible to edit the individual voices on the Tetra by setting it to multi mode and then changing the MoPho keyboard's MIDI channel to reflect each voice, but technically that isn't what poly chain is designed to do.
However, you could definitely sync 5 sequences between the 2 instruments if that's what you're after.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
nice...
01halo 1 year ago
insane :DDD
jangerhardkarl 1 year ago
Hi Dave,
When polychaining do you have to ensure that both the Mopho Key and the Tetra have the same sounds, or will the Tetra enslave itself to the Mopho, automatically adapting to the settings on the patches chosen on the Mopho?
/ Niels
Nillerbabsen 1 year ago
@Nillerbabsen
You need the same sounds on both machines. You can easily dump from either instrument using a single MIDI cable.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
Hi, can i use my mopho keyboard to control and edit the tertras programs via midi NOT ploy chain?
trybtek 1 year ago
@trybtek
Yep! The MoPho Keyboard sends out CC and NRPN controller messages so it can be used purely as a controller as well.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
what do keyboards like this hook up to, could i use my guitar amp
docBOSS1444 1 year ago
@docBOSS1444
They have a regular line-level output, so you can hook them up to anything with a line-level input.
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
Great stuff Dave. I'm rather excited about getting my hands on one of these little beauties!
macmurphy74 1 year ago
Nice demo, Dave! I recently bought a Tetra (which I love BTW) so I was looking forward to seeing how it worked polychained to the Mopho KB. I was wondering if you can access all the Tetra parameters from the Mopho KB? What about combo mode? Thanks!
nuttymad1 1 year ago
@nuttymad1
All the Tetra parameters are mapped to the MoPho for full control, with the exception of Multi and Combo (since the MoPho doesn't have these). However, you can still control each individual voice on the Tetra in Multi mode by changing to the appropriate MIDI channel on the MoPho Keyboard
DaveSmithInstruments 1 year ago
Really nice one Dave! I have been asking for a hands on Mo'Pho for ages...sounds great! Like how you can chain them to make it poly. Now to get some of that hard to find cash to fund it lol
vinyljunkie07 1 year ago