I wanna be Saved ang go to Heaven i hate the Devil and i dont believe in him but if he is real for sure i will beat him up and i believe in God and Jesus and love them both because i believe that Jesus die for me to save from my sins and i have done pretty bad things that i hope God and Jesus could forgive me.
Amen. The Book of Life is God's Book. Praise Almighty God for He is our God. Praise the name of Jesus for he is King of Kings and Lord of Lords-Emmanuel-God with us. Please, give your life to Jesus today, today, yes***before it is too late. The Lake of Fire is VERY REAL. Heaven is VERY REAL. God loves you all so much and Jesus loves you all and the Holy Spirit loves you so much. Come to Christ Jesus today***and then, you too will be written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Forever & Ever. Amen.
I wish more people would turn to the one true God! And I also wish that more people would see how much Jesus loves us and how much he's done for us. <3
why cant my husband repent from his evil ways? why cant he come back to our marriage and stop sinning?please Lord save his soul He needs you as much as I do ! please Jesus everything has separate us and there is no way I can reach him but you can.I dont want him to go t hell
man i suck as a christian....i blackslid many times but still believe in GOD...i sinned every second which i cant stop.....i tried everything...praying, reading the bible...listen to music but then i go back to sin......i cant win
@gabox13, righteousness doesn't save u, faith does. There are many people who have acceppted Christ on thief deathbead, and could do nothing but have faith and acceptance in Jesus.
HELL IS REAL!!! If we have lied, stolen, hated someone, looked with lust, had sex outside of marriage, used profanity, etc., we are guilty and in danger of spending eternity in hell after this life. However, that is not God's desire for us. Christ came from heaven to take our punishment on Himself and die on a cross. Three days later He arose and now commands us to turn from sin and trust in Him. If you are not born again see my video titled “Warning: Four Types of People That Are Hellbound”.
Repent of your sins (Turn away from them) & Trust in Jesus - 1st You must make the choice that you want to change. 2nd Confess your sins to God in Jesus name & 3rd Have Faith in Jesus - A big problem most people have is believing that they can't be forgiven - Jesus died & shed his blood for your sins no matter how great they may be - The Devil will always play that game with you that you can't be forgiven remember HE IS A LIAR !
I have exepted jesus as my saviour. A couple of years ago,I had terrible pain from panceratits Doc's put me on oxicotin,I became addicted.Then they abruptly cut me off,I began to have severe withdraws and was told to go on methadone.Now I go to a methadone clinic everyday,I'm a prisoner to it.Without it I have intolerable pain and withdraw.I can't live like this anymore,and just want to end it and go home with Jesus.But will I lose my salvation?Some please help me with this!
I am a very big sinner.There it this sin that i was continously did even though i knew it was wrong.I was falling for Devils traps.And recently i stopped.Will Jesus forgive me?I must know this and pray for me please.
Christains sin,,we all do...God forgives and you work on your weakness with his help with your effort. You don't throw in the towel.Life is not spose to be all gravy,ya screw up,correct it.Christ died on the cross for are screw ups and all those nasty sins weave all done in one way or a another. Thats lifes layout!!!do it in your own strength you'll fall and break your face every time. Thats where i sit..
@knockout9999 here you go brother.. lord jesus i know that i am a sinner and unless you save me i am lost forever i thank you for dying for me at calvery and saving me from my sins.. i come to you now lord just as you said in your word the best way i know how and ask you to save me.. i receive you as my lord and saviour in JESUS CHRIST name a'men. GOD BLESS
@gabox13 it's only by faith in what Jesus did on the cross that will get our names written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Jesus did everything that had to be done for us to be saved. Only thing left to do is believe. We aren't saved by our works, but if it's real faith, it will work. Jesus said, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, let him deny himself, take up his cross daily and follow Me." Jesus came to give rest to your weary soul. Surrender completely to Him and receive His forgiveness. Shalom.
@gabox13 I sin too,you can never live good enough to enter heaven.Ask Jesus to forgive all sins you have,believe he died for your sins-- then all sin-past present and future is forgiven.It don,t matter how bad your sin or how little you think you sin.He cannot stand sin,he hates it.If you want to go to heaven,you got to go his way.
@gabox13 We all sin & fall short of God's Glory but please remember no matter what you have done God Will always Love You - Confess your sins to him & ask for forgiveness,The Blood Of Christ covers all sins - If your having a hard time turning away from something then you may need to get rid of some trash in your life like movies,books,music or maybe even friends or family who are feeding your problems
@gabox13 pray to jesus say everything from your heart and mean it trust me i used to have a very bad problem with lust and anger and ive commited most of the seven deadly sins i learned when i got older that i was leading myself in the devils path i decided to pray to jesus my life is so much better now im calm and humble and everything is great just pray and mean it when u do hope helped.
@gabox13 everyone sins, no one is perfect. dont worry, as long as you repent ur sins and ask for gods forgiveness there is no reason to b afraid. god loves us all and god has alot of patience and mercy
@gabox13 Even if you fix one habitual sin it will not make you righteous, the only thing that makes us right before God is Jesus boring our sins so that God sees Him when he looks at us because we have had faith on him.But that doesn't mean you should not kill the sin.. Because the Bible talks about us seeking holiness and there are certain sins that keep us in chains and possibly could show that we arent saved. Check out Paul washer's Examine yourself sermon. Works dont SAVE you at all
You can't stop sinning because its the nature of man to sin.But, this was the whole purpose of God sending us that wonderful Savior Jesus Christ our Lord.If we could stop sinning,we would have never needed Jesus to do what he so generously and lovingly did for all of us.God understood this nature,and provided us a way out.He gave us an escape route.There is only one way for you to know for sure you are going to heaven and are in the Great Book of Life. Is by accepting Jesus Christ,and repent.
Ask God to completely take over your lives. Don't hold anything back, He died for you and loves you & has made a way of escape. He will show you how to live for Him.
@knockout9999 we are all sinners, and we always will be, but dont worry just never stop believing, it is not by your good works you are saved but by the grace of God thru faith and believing.
@knockout9999 the Bible says that "Whoever shall call upon the Name (Jesus) of the Lord will be saved" (Rom. 10:13) Keep crying out to Him, He hears you, He WILL answer! He knows your true heart and will respond in exactly the way you need Him to. Our only job in this life as Christians is to cooperate with (obey) the work and Spirit of God. It also helps to get out of the environment that is making you stumble. Message me through you tube. It would be my privilege to talk to you further.
@knockout9999 Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
@knockout9999 All you have to do is pray and pray and beleive christ delivered me he can deliver yout to never stop fighting he can do it he died for us he is the way the truth and life hope and pray!
@knockout9999 i get the impression that you are being tormented by the accuser, satan. he is causing you to feel like you are a failure and you are not worthy of heaven, and unable to stop sinning. jesus hears all your prayers and knows your heart. i know you love the lord and want to stop sinning, so keep praying and i will too.
@knockout9999 helo brother/?i was that before..but Praise God that i passed that..true His word. by the grace of God...you must trust the Lord..always keep in praying to Jesus..fully surrender to the LOrd..God loves you brother..
@knockout9999 WE WILL SIN!, and sadly, thats part of the beauty of christ. You see, he died on a cross to for all are sins, so that we may be forgivin of everything we did wrong. It was by his perfect sacerfice ( he lived a perfect life) that we could be forgiven. Trust in the Lord! Be faithful in all that he has given. And know that he loves you with all his heart, soul, and mind :)
@jesussavedmetoo Thank you sooooooooooooo much, this test really changed my attitude about the almighty GOD. He is worthy of my praise, and yours. Again, I really do thankyou. AAnd from this day forward, I pray that my name is written in the book of life :) <3
You have to accept Jesus and ask him to forgive your sins (repent) and come into your life and pray for those who are mean to you and ask him to forgive them and even the ones that will never accept him do this now after you are done reading this because Jesus will return VERY SOON, study revelation in the Bible and the other things that are in the Bible.
whe are never good enough if you think by yourself you are good that is not Good you have to be good in the likes of God
if you follow the steps of jesus the only begotten Son of God you will know what is Good if you fully believe in him you will not perish mistakes can happen ask for forgiveness and He the son will forgive for he said his burden is light if you follow him he also said it is not easy but its worth it. Amen
God prophetically decreed that the Valley of Hinnom would serve as a place for mass disposal of dead bodies rather than for the torture of live victims. (Jer 7:32, 33; 19:2, 6, 7, 10, 11)The Valley of Hinnom was used as a place for the disposal of waste matter from the city of Jerusalem.There was a continual fire there to burn the unclean things and the bones of the carcasses. Hence, the judgment of the wicked ones is called parabolically Gehinnom.
If I decide to choose a form of Bible study that was, to sift out, what was truth and what was not truth in regards to the things we are being told, where does that leave me? Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life, and we are told that no deciet was found in Him. So based on your understanding of the rich man and Lazrus, which one one the above mentioned isn't accurate.
Did you mean Jude 7? "suffering the vengeance of eternal fire" reminds me that there are some who will not be there in the"resurrection of the just and the unjust". These have already been judged.Did you know that Jesus made reference to a burning garbage dump?
Jude-suffering the vengence of, isn't the same thing as, existance just ends. To cease to exist, is to cease, and isn't in line with any form of suffering. So are you saying the passage is wrong in what it implies. What does the passage say?
i think its like natural energy in life, where you go and things. Like natural resonance thats why the worse you are the worse a place you have to go because they go together they're relative to. But i don't think nothing should last forever because that would be bad unless an extremely long time was the only choice too shut someone evil up because every time you let him go he starts killing or hurting people.
I just thought of another place in scripture, that suggest, there is a place we go, in Christ, when we die. The man on the cross that Jesus said Today You Will be with Me in Paradise? There may be others, i'm not certain
Last one 1st then,the meaning of Jesus' reply to the repentant evildoer would depend upon the placement of the comma in the sentence. I believe the NWT is accurate and in harmony with the rest of scripture by placing the comma after today instead of before. Eternal torment is not consistent with Jehovah's 4 attributes of love,justice,wisdom and power. I can"hang my hat" on this because I know Him. Matt27:52 is talking about bodies being violently thrown from tombs during an earthquake.
If you interpret this as not being consistant with His attributes, then what do you beleive becomes of Satan and the fallen angles? And why woul Jesus, in a sense lie to people in regards of eternal punishment to make a point? Surely that hat isn't consistent with His atributes? To practice any form of desception is considered a lie.
I'm just wondering why you would think eteral torment doesn't literaly wait for those who die apart from Christ. Do you beleive He had to use disception to convince people of a truth? That doesn't line up with His Holy charactor. That seems to be what your indicating when you mention that He had to use the illistration of fire to convince them of a truth.
Matt 27:52,53 speaks of those who come up at the time of Jesus' ressurection. Jude 1:14 Who are the ten thousands of saints mentioned here? The resurrection hasn't yet accured, but this is The Lords aproach. What did Paul mean when he said apart from the body preent with the Lord? I think there is evidence either way in this area, and that's why we don't hang our hats on it. Do you beleive, that to die apart from God, is just to enter a state of no existence? No torment for eternity?
I will say, I've never had someone take me through a trip like this one to end up with almost the same conclussin. I do beleive we have a consciousness after death though, and this is just one scripture reference to that. There are other that suggest the same thing.
Lk 16:16-18 tells that of Jesus saying that the time of the law and prophets has passed. But that,it would be easier for heaven and earth to pas away than for one dot of the law to pass away.Out of seamingly nowhere he gives us the 7th commandment.He is telling us here that God's perfect law will never pass away, it's His Holy standard.But that He is come to fulfill that Holy standerd.And yes, those of us who are in Him will be with Him, all others will be as the rich man.I think we agree here:)
Everything you are saying here is Bible. However, your looking again at a main theme and in doing so your missing out on the rest of what is being conveyed. Fire and brimstone is a matter of interpretation by many scholars who dissagree with one another on the interpretations of Rev 20. The rich man and Lazarus give us insite into a consciecnes after death, although we don't know exactly what that will be, we can know that the rich man and Lazarus are aware of where they are.
So,how would Jesus show the mixed company of listeners,in no uncertain terms,that no longer could they claim that having Abraham as a forefather would guarantee salvation?(Rich Man,Lazarus) How could he show that rejecting the messiah was a sin against the Holy Spirit meriting eternal death without hope of a resurrection?(fire)Luke 16 shows the CHANGE that Jesus initiated and the Apostles expounded upon.
Another reason why Jesus use illustrations had to do with the attitude of unbelievers who were listening."So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie,in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness."(2Thess 2:11,12) A love of badness prohibits one from understanding divine light.
It might be more helpful if you would just tell me, what your attempting to convey, and then explain, in scripture, how you came to this conclussion. What for instance, is the specific target for the parable? And then we can go to scripture and see if this application of thought aplies to the text.
To the contrary,Jere3:10 concerns marriage(in this case,symbolic marriage to Jehovah)and Deu11:26 shows why that metaphor is appropriate. I don't expect any thinking person to believe a statement that I just throw out there(who am I?). As you said,it must be supported throughout the scriptures. Also,revealing the answer through clues gives me an idea of YOUR intellect.
What your doing in regard to Luke 16, is inserting human thought or ideas into the text, when you should be, taking the thought, from the text. Deu 11:26,27; Jer 3:14 have nothing to do with Luke 16. Your taking passages of scripture out of context.
"What your doing in regard to Luke 16, is inserting human thought or ideas into the text" Human thought was the level that Jesus was bringing this great teaching down to. Jesus wants us to think about deep things,imperfect though we are,we owe it to our Lord to at least try.
Homosexuals state, that it is ok, to be that way, because Paul says, That in Christ, there is now, no male or female, nor greek, nor jew but all are one in Him. They "insert" a suggested idea, that Paul makes reference to, their sexual orientation in light of his statement. The suggestion again isn't there but is being inserted to suit a particular bent in human thought.
The Father , same thing. And to really blow our minds He (God) says in numurous places in scripture that He Is One. Nothing in the The teaching of The Holy Trinity is inserted into the text, it is taken from the text and is therefore what the text actualy says. This is not some kind of made up thing as is taught by many, rather an understanding of God, pouring off of the pages, Of His Word.
Remember that the text has to be making the suggestion and in numerous places for the idea to be Doctrine. This is why The Holy Trinity Is Doctrine. Holy Spirit isn't called a person, however Holy Spirit is refered to as He, Comforter, Teacher, Guide, all personal attributes giving Him what we refer to as the title of person. The suggestion again is in the text. The same thing with Jesus Himself, however Jesus is actual called God as well as the suggestion being in place within the text.>>
Our Heavenly Father is God, our Heavenly Savior Is God, and The Holy Spirit Is God. They are all God, totaly and completely, equaly God, yet, only One. The human mind cannot understand this in the flesh. We try and explain and we fall short in our explanation, not because the subject isn't in the text, but because He is so Awesome that , like the psalmist, we too can only say He is to great for us to contain Him.
I'm going to study this thing out and prayerfuly seek the Lord in this idea you are presenting. You indicate that all of God's Word is pivital on this, and that conserns me in that we can get into error when we, as I said before, hang our hats on any one passage as it relates to a subject that isn't being suggested, but rather inserted. Again, even if the suggestion, is there, it MUST be in many other passages to be considered Doctrine. And this is, what your saying, if it is that important
I believe the theme of rulership that you gave is a correct theme, but not the only theme. Again I don't hold the view that the Bible has only one theme. I think allot gets lost when we do that simply because of the way we as humans process thought. God is so Vast and Awesome that the human mind cannot contain Him. The psalmist makes note of this as well in that God is to great for him to obtain. This is why we will never fully understand God as He is, in the flesh. Con>>
Look at vs 18Everyone that divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he that marries a woman divorced from a husband commits adultery." This would seem out of context if you didn't understand the parable,but it really has a direct bearing on the parable itself
vs 18,This, as I read it, is flowing out of and from vs 16 to give us a clear picture of the fact that the Moral law remains in place The (Ten Commandments).
Ok.Back to Luke 16;The law covenant was conditional.See, I am putting before YOU today blessing and malediction: the blessing, provided YOU will obey the commandments of Jehovah YOUR God that I am commanding YOU today"(Deu.11:26,27).Marriage is also conditional,"forsaking all others".The Nation was in a marriage-like arrangement,"I myself[Jehovah] have become the husbandly owner of YOU people"(Jere.3:14)Do you see what I'm getting at here,and how it sets up a specific target for the parable?
For example; We in our stupidity refer to Holy Spirit as a person. However No where in the Bible will we find The Holy Spirit actualy being called a person. We do this out of our ignorance because we Know The Holy Spirit as having the Attributes of a Person. We don't mean to be in error here, We just take for granted that He Is a Personal Being given the many suggestions within the text that describe Holy Spirit as such.
If we take a suggestion from a passage that is actualy indicating in some way or another that the suggested subject is there, then that is ok to do. If we want to hang our hat on a particular subject, that's entirely different, as we would need to see the suggestion in numerous places to suport it as Biblical truth. We can't take a suggested topic or subject and aplie it to the scriptures to imply a meaning that may not exist. The suggestion needs to come from the text, not be aplied to the text
Look at verse 16The Law and the Prophets were until John. From then on the kingdom of God is being declared as good news, and every sort of person is pressing forward toward it." Jesus is setting the stage for a lesson that would have meaning throughout the scriptures. And it does.And it's wonderful. Shall I continue?
To be honest I believe it to be both literal and a Parable. Example; the seed and the sower is also both literal and is also that of a parable. It is a literal truth, of the sowing of God's Word yet is illistrated through the seed and the soil. Again, the suggestion is in the text. We need to ask ourselves what is being suggested in the text and not insert something that isn't there. Example; Con>>>
I'm looking at the way you are reading Luke 16:19-31 and it apears to me, to be, interesting thought, however interesting thought isn't the same thing as what is actualy being conveyed. Of course we can speculate on things like this, but in the end we need to be careful with what is actualy being suggested. The suggestion that you are making in reference to the # 6 and the person Jesus raised from the dead "Lazarus" again is interesting however it simply isn't what is being said in this passage.
"the poor would always be among us and we are expected to assist them in love. " Come on,deckercarol,you can go deeper than that can't you? This is the meat of God's word,there is great meaning here.
"Paul says to be apart from the body is to be present with the Lord" I view this in the same sense of 1Cor.5:20"I for one, although absent in body but present in spirit, have certainly judged already, as if I were present" Paul wasn't dead when he said this. We use similar expressions today.
I think that Jesus going through this as He does in both accounts in reference to the good samaratitan only means that He places a High priority on caring for the poor, needy, people in our daily path that need our assistence. Not that it is virtuous in any way to be a begger, but that the poor would always be among us and we are expected to assist them in love.
There is no doubt that the rich man did something bad. But if that were the point of the story it would be more clear. The fact is that this parable is about a CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES for the "hungry" that Jesus spoke of in the sermon on the mount. The scribes and pharisees had every chance and they blew it. You'll notice in the opening vs that this parable was directed at them.
It's also interesting that the rich man knew who Abraham was as the story doesn't give any suggestion as to this being in Abrahams day where their paths may have crossed and they would have known one another in life. Reminds me of the thief on the cross where Jesus said Today you will be with me in paradise. There is evidence in scripture of an awareness of something after the body dies. Paul says to be apart from the body is to be present with the Lord (another one that comes to mind).
The rich man knew he was there and starving to death yet there is no indication that he did anything to assist Lazarus. There is no indication that he did anything at all, just left him there to starve and let the dirty dogs lick his wonds. And we know that Lazarus had been there a while because as we can see in v 23 he knows Lazarus by name after recognizing him standing with Abraham, and then was trying to give orders for Lazarus to help relieve his torment.
That lesson was already covered in "The Good Samaritan". If that's the lesson then that would mean there is something virtuous about being a beggar.There is something much deeper here. For instance,the dogs;How were dogs viewed by jews? Do you really think that someone could carry on a conversation from heaven(by-the-way it doesn't say heaven but"the bossom position with Abraham)with someone tormented in hell?
Lets go back to the comment from luke 16:19 you believe no here. That is true given that's where you stop reading. It's very clear from vs 20,21 that the rich man had no consern for Lazaras; He was laying at his gate starving and had soars covering his body. Desiring to eat what fell from the rich mans table and even the dogs came and licked his soars. The sin is easy to see here in this story. con>>
Interesting that Jesus raised someone named Lazarus from the dead and the jews tried to destroy the evidence by putting a hit out on Lazarus(John12:10,11)"But Abraham said, They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to these. Then he said, No, indeed, father Abraham, but if someone from the dead goes to them they will repent. But he said to him, If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be persuaded if someone rises from the dead.Luke 16:29-31)
It's not just the rich man & Lazarus we're talking about.vs.26" And besides all these things, a great chasm has been fixed between us and YOU people, so that those wanting to go over from here to YOU people cannot, neither may people cross over from there to us." cont.>
I can and will refute the trinity on a scriptural basis. But for now let's talk about Hell. I backed up and noticed that our discussion actually began with this subject. You cited the parable of The Rich Man and Lazarus. That's why I referred to the theme of the Bible. Just as the "wheat and weeds"represented believers and unbelievers in Jesus' illustrations,the Rich Man is not literal. If that were the case then it would be a sin to be wealthy. I know a lot about this parable.
Now whose being presumptuous and assuming more than is stated in His Word?:) This however isn't something we hang our hats on as doctrine anyway, so either way it still not a major consern.
Back to The rich man & Lazarus luke 16:19-31. I'm not understanding how if this is a literal but only illustrational; Where do you get the idea that it is a sin to be rich. That isn't even the point of the discusion taking place. The sin was in how he choose to spend his riches and ignore compassion love & mercy that he should have had for the poor, with contempt as he treated him badly on top of that. I don't see any indication that him being rich was the sin that put him there.
Read it again. The story only says..."But a certain man was rich, and he used to deck himself with purple and linen, enjoying himself from day to day with magnificence."(Luke 16:19) There is no real description of a sin committed. The rich man represents the nation as a whole,whereas Lazarus represents Jesus disciples. The death of the two represents the change in their relationship with Jehovah. Look at the symbols in the story. cont.>
Therefore it really should'nt suprise any of us that the Trinity can never be fully comprehended by us as long as we are still in the flesh. There are many places in the scriptures where one who is called The Father is identified as being God, one who is called Jesus is identified as being God & one who is call Holy Spirit is identified as being God. And yet God is refered to as Only One God in many references...Trinity-One God who exists in three personages, yet He remains One God--not three.
As for the Trinity; Ultimately, The Holy Trinity is a Mystery to the Human Flesh. This of course doesn't suprise me, for, in a similar manner, how much can a younge child understand of the maturity and loving relationship of his or her father and mother, incliding the interaction of the components of love,intellect, psychi, & soul within their personalities? A small child would not be able to grasp such things, and is not God even higher above us than the parents of a small child?>>
Why would God inspire and preserve the Bible,the sum of all we know about him,if God couldn't be understood? To assume more than is stated in His word would be presumptuous.
I gave allot of prayer and thought to your comment on death as my heart is burdened that you don't have a hope beyond the grave. This idea has been around a long time. The Apostle Paul spoke about this allot in the Apistles as he was confronted with many who believed, even back then as you yourself do today. I want you to know that Christ died to give you this very real tangable Hope. So I am going to the scriptures in prayer that The Lord will show me what to share that you may know this Hope
I've also enjoyed our discussions. In fact your's is the first letter I read when I open my inbox. Now let's not jump to conclusions about my hope for life after death. You asked me,"what do believe will happen to you when you die?" Perhaps you really want to know if I have faith in the resurrection from the dead. I do.
That is surely good news:) I realize that the place Of Hell is thought of in different ways, but all assert in the Church that it is total and complete seperation from God for Eternity. As to the grave and what actualy takes place at the moment of death I myself fall short on a real understanding scripturaly of that subject. I do believe that to be apart from the body is to be present with the Lord, as Paul states. I don't have a clear definition on what all that means.con>>
"total and complete seperation from God for Eternity"-I disagree.Here's why;"he saw beforehand and spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that neither was he forsaken in Ha′des nor did his flesh see corruption."(Acts 2:31)How does your Bible read on this.
This speaks of the Resurrection of Chtist. His Resurrection was indeed a physical and total Resurrection. Those of us who die in Christ (believers) will be raised (resurrected) at the time of the Rapture mention in 1 Thes 4:14-16. Those who die without Christ will be resurrected at the end of the thousand year reign, to what is refered to in scripture as the final judgement where they will then be cast into what Rev 20 refers to as the lake of fire.
I was trying to keep this simple and you won't answer my questions. They were simple questions that you have avoided since we started comunicating. Do you think your a good person? And what do believe will happen to you when you die? I would still love to know your thoughts on those two things (if you choose to share). If not it has been interesting comunicating with you. Be Blessed
Not avoiding,just trying to stay focused.Mark 10:18 'Jesus said to him: Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God."I hope you can understand why I think that is a trick question. Death:The ceasing of all functions of life. After breathing, heartbeat, and brain activity stop, the life-force gradually ceases to function in body cells. Death is the opposite of life.
1peter3--thanks for sharing your thoughts on my questions. You are correct in that no one but God is Good. And the question wasn't really a trick question. There are allot of people who sincerely beleive they are good people because they never rob a bank or murdered someone. I know that we will all be judge by a Holy Just God that will judge our lives here, by His Standards and not mans standards. His Standards are the Ten Commandments. Jesus expanded on them making them a matter of the heart>>
Jesus said,"...let your name(YHVH) be sanctified,let your KINGDOM come...". It's RULERSHIP. Who has the right and the ability to rule the earth. That is the theme of the Bible. A word of advice,keep it simple,that's what Jesus did.
Rev 20:15 All whose names are not found written in the book of life will be condemned for the record of their deeds and thrown in the lake of fire. Those enrolled in the lambs book of life enter the new Jerusalem (21:27)
because the names in that book are of those who have been redeemed by "the lamb who was slain" for their sins. Their recorded deeds attest to their trust in Christ and is also the basis of their rewards. Rev 20:14 death the last enemy, will be destroyed when Christ returns and raise believers(1 Cor 15:23-26). Therefore Death and Hades will be the last to be thrown into the lake of fire, the second death, where they will join the beast,false prophet & devil Rev 19:20,20:10.>>>
God keeps an accurate record of every human deed, and will reward and punish with perfect justice.Rev 20:13 The sea, Death and Hades(the realm of the dead)will give up thier dead as all people return to bodily exist to be judged(2 Cor 5:10)By Jesus(Matt 16:27, John 5:28-29,Acts 17:31).They were judged acording to what they had done.Unbeleivers will be rightly condemned for their sins.Believers, whose names are in the book of life, will enter into a new Heaven & new Earth(21:1)>>>
How can the dead be judged based on their past sins when the Bible clearly says,"For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin."(Romans 6:7)This would not be just.
Rom 6:1-23 Hope as a result of Righteousness by Faith. The central theme of chs. 5-8 is that believers in Christ, who are righteous in God's sight, have a certain hope of future glory and eternal life. Rom 6:1-23 The Triumph of Grace over the power of sin. The law does not and cannot conquer sin, but grace given to followers of Christ triumphs over sin and death. Rom 6:7 ONE WHO HAS DIED,,MEANS ONE WHO HAS DIED WITH CHRIST..this scripture is not a reference in suport of my question to you.
Rev 20:11 The Great White Throne reflects the purity and wisdom of the ancient of days. Earth and sky fled away. This removal of the first Heaven and Earth fortold(Hag 2:6, Heb 12:26-28, and previewed in Rev 6:12-14, 16:18-21)prepares for the new Heaven and Earth(21:1, 4-5,Isa65:17,66:22,2 Pet3:10-13. Rev 20:12 The dead great and small include both God's saints and the beast's worshipers (13:16, 19:18)Books recording their deeds wil be opened(Dan7:10)providing the grounds by which each is judged
Back to the video;Rev.20:11-15The last Judgment and destruction of death the last enemy. All the dead will be raised from the grave and the sea, to be judged either by their deeds recorded in "the books" or by God's Gracious registration of their names in the Lambs "Book Of Life". This judgement was announced in 11:18 con>>>
Another clue."Then Jehovah said to Samuel: Listen to the voice of the people as respects all that they say to you; for it is not you whom they have rejected, but it is I whom they have rejected from being king over them(1Samuel 8:7)
The key here is that of the people wanting to be "like all others Nations". Rather than follow God's ways for them they prefered to follow the ways of the world. Basically a rejection of His Kingship over them.
You are getting closer to the answer in a roundabout way. What was second on Jesus' list of priorities in the model prayer,aka Lord's prayer,aka the our Father?
If you study out the Lord's Prayer, what does it say to you? To me; We are to know Him (intimately as Father) acknowledge in awe His Holiness. Ask in accordence with His will only as it pertains to His Kingdom. Knowing that only He can sustain us in this life. And that only He can Forgive us and deliver us from all sin and evil.
An entire nation that Jehovah guided and protected was cast off in the end. ("This is why I say to YOU, The kingdom of God will be taken from YOU and be given to a nation producing its fruits."Matt21:43)So,personal aspirations,if they are not in agreement with the divine will,mean nothing in the final scheme of things.If I understand your 2cent response,the theme of the Bible is NOT the demonstration of God's power. Do you give up? I see that serengetijane is getting impatient.
Your sound here as if your a beleiver in replacement theology. I however am not as the Jews are God's chosen people and His Promise to preserve them can be seen in the NT as well as the OT. There is allot of speculation and debate in the Church about it, although most Christian scholars wouldn't agree with you as to the final out come of the Jewish people because there is to much evidence in the Bible that God will save them in the end. I still don't see your theme in any of this.
I don't know about"replacement theology"but I do know what Christ said/Matt.23:37,38. What Peter said/Acts10:34,35.What Paul said/1Cor.7:19. Do you really think there is any other way to the Father besides Jesus? In fact a great many of Jesus'parables as well as the prophets pointed toward the final separation of Jehovah with that nation.You must distinguish between a natural jew and a spiritual jew. That's what Jesus does,he reads hearts.
This I think we are just misunderstanding one another in. I believe that the Jewish people will come to the saving knowledge of Christ. I don't think apart from Christ anyone will enter into His Kingdom irregardless of their race. So lets move on because we obviously both agree on this.
If I didn't care what happened to you when you die I sure wouldn't spend all this time on a you tube video site trying to find out what you beleive in reference to that. It does consern me. Doesn't it consen you? Do you think your a good person? Most folks do.
We of course Know why that is--God is the Author of the Bible. And if He wrote it He can surely preserve it, even untill now 2008. It's like His promise to Israel, His promise to us. If He said it He will do it inspite of all mans attempts to prevent, pervert and distort. I'm not sure that is the answer to the question you ask me, but that's my two cents worth anyway. I do have a question for you if you would like to answer; What do you think will happen to you when you die?
I prefer the translations that attempt a word for word translation like ESV and NASB because they are much more suited for study. But thought for thought Bibles still comunicate God's Truth, like NIV. The texual accuracy and texual proof of the English Bible, as it relates to the thousands of Ancient Manuscripts that scholars have in their possession, is simply amazing. There isn't any other piece of literature that comes even remotely close to the texual support(Ancient copies) of the Bible.>>
It reminds me of How God is in total control of all He has promised. He says in His Word that Heaven and earth shale pass away, but His Word will remain forever. That makes me think of how well He has preserved His Word through all these generations. If you really think about it, the Bible has only been translated once into English from Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic. Most contemporary English Bibles can be trusted (not all-some have been intentionaly corrupted). con>>>
firstpeterthree--what words don't you understand? I simply ask you to define for yourself, God, The Person of Christ, Heaven, Hell, Grace, Eternity, Satan, False Prophets, False teachers, Anti-Christ. Then search the Bible and find where your definitions of these subjects are taught. If you are troubled by the word Hell then define the lake of fire as described in Rev 20.
firstpeterthree--What is the ONE theme? This question can't be answered as the question itself is faulted. Although over 40 different men over a period of some 2000 yrs wrote it?? HUH? Genesis through Rev.?
The Bible as I see it, and I could be wrong. Has many themes. It seems more fruitful to understand the OT for instance as a whole in terms of an unfolding story, with a number of basic components: Monotheism, Creation and Fall, Ellection and Covenant, Eschatology. And the message of the NT cannot be seperated from the OT. Just my opinion, as I've never been ask this before. I'm guessing this is what you are refering to as to the ONE theme that runs through the Bible.
Yes.There is one common theme throughout. You have to put aside your fear or personal expectations of an afterlife to really see it. You're on the right track by saying that,you"could be wrong". That is a sign of humility. Another hint then;it's the reason why Hitler persecuted JW's and why God-fearing people throughout history became martyrs.
Hitler?? He persucuted all kinds of people, JWs, homosexuals, Jews, Anyone who disagreed with his veiws. He was nutts!! What's the answer already I'm on the edge of my seat
well ok if I must come up with one theme and only one theme I would have to say "redemption" as it runs through from Gen-Rev. But you already said it wasn't salvation so you have totally lost me on this one.
Another clue then,a question; Why are the failures of Israelite kings detailed in the hebrew scriptures? This chronology stands in stark contrast to what one would expect from a canon that was protected and even contributed to by said rulers. The more common practice then,as well as now,is to highlight the accomplishments and gloss-over or ignore completely their failures.
I'm glad you ask that question, because as I was going through the Bible last night I was just absolutely amazed, all over again at the Awesome Sovereignty of God. Anyway, here's my two cents worth; The failures of the Kings of Isreal are so well magnified for the purpose of God displaying His Sovereign control in the midst of our failings. He held true to His promise to them as a nation and brought them through it all inspite of them. con>>
serengetijane--I just received a personal e-mail from you in my inbox. Are you trying to say by your strange and unusual comment that you think there is a type of "you tube cop" that decides who does and who doesn't get to leave comments on you tube video sites? Interesting:) Haven't I bumped into you before? Aren't you the one who said "Tall White Guys dressed like Quakers live on the Moon"? :)
Does the Bible indicate whether the dead experience pain?
Eccl. 9:5, 10: The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,* the place to which you are going. (If they are conscious of nothing, they obviously feel no pain.)
What are those words? The Hebrew sheohl′ and its Greek equivalent hai′des, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind; also the Greek ge′en·na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction. However, both in Christendom and in many non-Christian religions it is taught that hell is a place inhabited by demons and where the wicked, after death, are punished (and some believe that this is with torment).
The picture of the lake of fire that you show looks super sweet compared to what it actually looks like. It's dark, you can't move there is no color except for the blue flames in the darkness and all you can hear is the roar of the fire. And there are demons there that torture. You message is good but please change the pretty picture of the lake of fire. It is very deceiving
I don't think it looks real comfortable myself. I actualy thought it looked rather awful. So if by that you mean it's gona be much worse,,AmenAmen, who could possibly be nutts enough to say yes to that!!
I wanna be Saved ang go to Heaven i hate the Devil and i dont believe in him but if he is real for sure i will beat him up and i believe in God and Jesus and love them both because i believe that Jesus die for me to save from my sins and i have done pretty bad things that i hope God and Jesus could forgive me.
MrChicoloco28 1 month ago
Amen. The Book of Life is God's Book. Praise Almighty God for He is our God. Praise the name of Jesus for he is King of Kings and Lord of Lords-Emmanuel-God with us. Please, give your life to Jesus today, today, yes***before it is too late. The Lake of Fire is VERY REAL. Heaven is VERY REAL. God loves you all so much and Jesus loves you all and the Holy Spirit loves you so much. Come to Christ Jesus today***and then, you too will be written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Forever & Ever. Amen.
idahopaula 2 months ago
I wish more people would turn to the one true God! And I also wish that more people would see how much Jesus loves us and how much he's done for us. <3
AshJ2015 2 months ago
@AshJ2015 Prove it. And no you don't get to quote the bible, you can't prove a book with it's own text.
SuperBspb 2 months ago
YES MY NAME IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE
adelainne21 2 months ago
Can someone please tell me what using the lords name in vain means?
CoDfan2011mw2 2 months ago
@CoDfan2011mw2 Like saying, "OH MY GOD!" or "GOOD LORD." As an exasperation
nobodyxo 2 months ago
@CoDfan2011mw2 just using it unrightiously like cursing someone with it or blaming
God for a problem it is inportant to use his name in prayer though jesus said let his fathers name be holy
Melly241000 2 months ago
why cant my husband repent from his evil ways? why cant he come back to our marriage and stop sinning?please Lord save his soul He needs you as much as I do ! please Jesus everything has separate us and there is no way I can reach him but you can.I dont want him to go t hell
StarBassPrincess 2 months ago
man i suck as a christian....i blackslid many times but still believe in GOD...i sinned every second which i cant stop.....i tried everything...praying, reading the bible...listen to music but then i go back to sin......i cant win
soURfunnyYOUthink 3 months ago
@gabox13, righteousness doesn't save u, faith does. There are many people who have acceppted Christ on thief deathbead, and could do nothing but have faith and acceptance in Jesus.
randomguitarstuff56 3 months ago
HELL IS REAL!!! If we have lied, stolen, hated someone, looked with lust, had sex outside of marriage, used profanity, etc., we are guilty and in danger of spending eternity in hell after this life. However, that is not God's desire for us. Christ came from heaven to take our punishment on Himself and die on a cross. Three days later He arose and now commands us to turn from sin and trust in Him. If you are not born again see my video titled “Warning: Four Types of People That Are Hellbound”.
EvangelizeYourWorld 5 months ago
Repent of your sins (Turn away from them) & Trust in Jesus - 1st You must make the choice that you want to change. 2nd Confess your sins to God in Jesus name & 3rd Have Faith in Jesus - A big problem most people have is believing that they can't be forgiven - Jesus died & shed his blood for your sins no matter how great they may be - The Devil will always play that game with you that you can't be forgiven remember HE IS A LIAR !
Robsalone 7 months ago
I have exepted jesus as my saviour. A couple of years ago,I had terrible pain from panceratits Doc's put me on oxicotin,I became addicted.Then they abruptly cut me off,I began to have severe withdraws and was told to go on methadone.Now I go to a methadone clinic everyday,I'm a prisoner to it.Without it I have intolerable pain and withdraw.I can't live like this anymore,and just want to end it and go home with Jesus.But will I lose my salvation?Some please help me with this!
shanealan4161 8 months ago
what does he mean by "If anyone wishes to come after Me, let him deny himself, take up his cross daily and follow Me."
istrehn 9 months ago
I am a very big sinner.There it this sin that i was continously did even though i knew it was wrong.I was falling for Devils traps.And recently i stopped.Will Jesus forgive me?I must know this and pray for me please.
UrosSrbin1 9 months ago
Christains sin,,we all do...God forgives and you work on your weakness with his help with your effort. You don't throw in the towel.Life is not spose to be all gravy,ya screw up,correct it.Christ died on the cross for are screw ups and all those nasty sins weave all done in one way or a another. Thats lifes layout!!!do it in your own strength you'll fall and break your face every time. Thats where i sit..
flatop59 10 months ago
how do i repent D:?
ChaldeanDavid 11 months ago
@knockout9999 here you go brother.. lord jesus i know that i am a sinner and unless you save me i am lost forever i thank you for dying for me at calvery and saving me from my sins.. i come to you now lord just as you said in your word the best way i know how and ask you to save me.. i receive you as my lord and saviour in JESUS CHRIST name a'men. GOD BLESS
92reshaun 1 year ago
I have sinned so awfully, I want to stop but its hard :( I really want to stop
for Jesus, I want to be righteous but I keep falling into sin :(
I want to be righteous enough to have my book written in the book of life
gabox13 1 year ago
@gabox13 it's only by faith in what Jesus did on the cross that will get our names written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Jesus did everything that had to be done for us to be saved. Only thing left to do is believe. We aren't saved by our works, but if it's real faith, it will work. Jesus said, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, let him deny himself, take up his cross daily and follow Me." Jesus came to give rest to your weary soul. Surrender completely to Him and receive His forgiveness. Shalom.
jesussavedmetoo 10 months ago
@gabox13 I sin too,you can never live good enough to enter heaven.Ask Jesus to forgive all sins you have,believe he died for your sins-- then all sin-past present and future is forgiven.It don,t matter how bad your sin or how little you think you sin.He cannot stand sin,he hates it.If you want to go to heaven,you got to go his way.
24thchance 8 months ago
@gabox13 u need to accept jc has ur savior
nelena1212 7 months ago
@gabox13 We all sin & fall short of God's Glory but please remember no matter what you have done God Will always Love You - Confess your sins to him & ask for forgiveness,The Blood Of Christ covers all sins - If your having a hard time turning away from something then you may need to get rid of some trash in your life like movies,books,music or maybe even friends or family who are feeding your problems
Robsalone 7 months ago
@gabox13 amen dude amen
calebkretzer 6 months ago
@gabox13 pray to jesus say everything from your heart and mean it trust me i used to have a very bad problem with lust and anger and ive commited most of the seven deadly sins i learned when i got older that i was leading myself in the devils path i decided to pray to jesus my life is so much better now im calm and humble and everything is great just pray and mean it when u do hope helped.
honolululu123 3 months ago
@gabox13 everyone sins, no one is perfect. dont worry, as long as you repent ur sins and ask for gods forgiveness there is no reason to b afraid. god loves us all and god has alot of patience and mercy
musicluvrchick1234 2 months ago
@gabox13 Even if you fix one habitual sin it will not make you righteous, the only thing that makes us right before God is Jesus boring our sins so that God sees Him when he looks at us because we have had faith on him.But that doesn't mean you should not kill the sin.. Because the Bible talks about us seeking holiness and there are certain sins that keep us in chains and possibly could show that we arent saved. Check out Paul washer's Examine yourself sermon. Works dont SAVE you at all
MrHappiness777 2 months ago
@gabox13 go and confess!!!
maxwellthebest 1 month ago
You can't stop sinning because its the nature of man to sin.But, this was the whole purpose of God sending us that wonderful Savior Jesus Christ our Lord.If we could stop sinning,we would have never needed Jesus to do what he so generously and lovingly did for all of us.God understood this nature,and provided us a way out.He gave us an escape route.There is only one way for you to know for sure you are going to heaven and are in the Great Book of Life. Is by accepting Jesus Christ,and repent.
Kickapocan 1 year ago
Dear One, Read Romans 6 & 7, and 8,9, & 10.
Ask God to completely take over your lives. Don't hold anything back, He died for you and loves you & has made a way of escape. He will show you how to live for Him.
TheLovedofGod 1 year ago
i cant stop sining but i believe soo much in the lord.
I keep sinning all the time :/ i want to stop but i cant. When i do its for like no time at all then i sin again :(
why cant i stop, i try but i cant :'(
help me jesus!
knockout9999 1 year ago
@knockout9999 we are all sinners, and we always will be, but dont worry just never stop believing, it is not by your good works you are saved but by the grace of God thru faith and believing.
1993sugarbowl 1 year ago
@knockout9999 the Bible says that "Whoever shall call upon the Name (Jesus) of the Lord will be saved" (Rom. 10:13) Keep crying out to Him, He hears you, He WILL answer! He knows your true heart and will respond in exactly the way you need Him to. Our only job in this life as Christians is to cooperate with (obey) the work and Spirit of God. It also helps to get out of the environment that is making you stumble. Message me through you tube. It would be my privilege to talk to you further.
jesussavedmetoo 1 year ago
@jesussavedmetoo amen!
catshumpcats3 1 year ago
@jesussavedmetoo thank u for the message.
jamaquita79 1 year ago
@knockout9999 Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
KJVBaptistGuy 1 year ago
@knockout9999 John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
KJVBaptistGuy 1 year ago
@knockout9999 All you have to do is pray and pray and beleive christ delivered me he can deliver yout to never stop fighting he can do it he died for us he is the way the truth and life hope and pray!
crankdatcripz 1 year ago
@knockout9999 i'm in the same boat :(
hanktoni 1 year ago
@knockout9999 i get the impression that you are being tormented by the accuser, satan. he is causing you to feel like you are a failure and you are not worthy of heaven, and unable to stop sinning. jesus hears all your prayers and knows your heart. i know you love the lord and want to stop sinning, so keep praying and i will too.
Griffin9857 1 year ago
@knockout9999 helo brother/?i was that before..but Praise God that i passed that..true His word. by the grace of God...you must trust the Lord..always keep in praying to Jesus..fully surrender to the LOrd..God loves you brother..
gingging300 6 months ago
@knockout9999 WE WILL SIN!, and sadly, thats part of the beauty of christ. You see, he died on a cross to for all are sins, so that we may be forgivin of everything we did wrong. It was by his perfect sacerfice ( he lived a perfect life) that we could be forgiven. Trust in the Lord! Be faithful in all that he has given. And know that he loves you with all his heart, soul, and mind :)
flybirdefly 3 months ago
If you are not sure that you are saved, please do the test before it is too late...
way of the Master . com / goodperson . shtml
Qrazii 1 year ago
@Qrazii how do we do the test ? please help.
1980sas1 10 months ago
@Qrazii go to this website: areyouagoodperson . org
jesussavedmetoo 10 months ago
@jesussavedmetoo Thank you sooooooooooooo much, this test really changed my attitude about the almighty GOD. He is worthy of my praise, and yours. Again, I really do thankyou. AAnd from this day forward, I pray that my name is written in the book of life :) <3
tiffany09871 3 months ago
YES amen it is!!
IcKeYsGhOsT 2 years ago
You have to accept Jesus and ask him to forgive your sins (repent) and come into your life and pray for those who are mean to you and ask him to forgive them and even the ones that will never accept him do this now after you are done reading this because Jesus will return VERY SOON, study revelation in the Bible and the other things that are in the Bible.
JJoh4040 2 years ago
whe are never good enough if you think by yourself you are good that is not Good you have to be good in the likes of God
if you follow the steps of jesus the only begotten Son of God you will know what is Good if you fully believe in him you will not perish mistakes can happen ask for forgiveness and He the son will forgive for he said his burden is light if you follow him he also said it is not easy but its worth it. Amen
Faithfull7 3 years ago
God prophetically decreed that the Valley of Hinnom would serve as a place for mass disposal of dead bodies rather than for the torture of live victims. (Jer 7:32, 33; 19:2, 6, 7, 10, 11)The Valley of Hinnom was used as a place for the disposal of waste matter from the city of Jerusalem.There was a continual fire there to burn the unclean things and the bones of the carcasses. Hence, the judgment of the wicked ones is called parabolically Gehinnom.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
If I decide to choose a form of Bible study that was, to sift out, what was truth and what was not truth in regards to the things we are being told, where does that leave me? Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life, and we are told that no deciet was found in Him. So based on your understanding of the rich man and Lazrus, which one one the above mentioned isn't accurate.
deckercarol 3 years ago
I hope by "long day" that doesn't mean that you had a bad day. But then,I guess it is Monday right. Talk to again soon deckercarol.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Did you mean Jude 7? "suffering the vengeance of eternal fire" reminds me that there are some who will not be there in the"resurrection of the just and the unjust". These have already been judged.Did you know that Jesus made reference to a burning garbage dump?
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Jude-suffering the vengence of, isn't the same thing as, existance just ends. To cease to exist, is to cease, and isn't in line with any form of suffering. So are you saying the passage is wrong in what it implies. What does the passage say?
deckercarol 3 years ago
i think its like natural energy in life, where you go and things. Like natural resonance thats why the worse you are the worse a place you have to go because they go together they're relative to. But i don't think nothing should last forever because that would be bad unless an extremely long time was the only choice too shut someone evil up because every time you let him go he starts killing or hurting people.
jojojo333777 3 years ago
Hello jojojo333777, So then, what about you? Do you think your a good person?
deckercarol 3 years ago
I just thought of another place in scripture, that suggest, there is a place we go, in Christ, when we die. The man on the cross that Jesus said Today You Will be with Me in Paradise? There may be others, i'm not certain
deckercarol 3 years ago
Last one 1st then,the meaning of Jesus' reply to the repentant evildoer would depend upon the placement of the comma in the sentence. I believe the NWT is accurate and in harmony with the rest of scripture by placing the comma after today instead of before. Eternal torment is not consistent with Jehovah's 4 attributes of love,justice,wisdom and power. I can"hang my hat" on this because I know Him. Matt27:52 is talking about bodies being violently thrown from tombs during an earthquake.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
If you interpret this as not being consistant with His attributes, then what do you beleive becomes of Satan and the fallen angles? And why woul Jesus, in a sense lie to people in regards of eternal punishment to make a point? Surely that hat isn't consistent with His atributes? To practice any form of desception is considered a lie.
deckercarol 3 years ago
you will need to excuse my typing & spelling at this point. It's been a long day:)
deckercarol 3 years ago
I'm just wondering why you would think eteral torment doesn't literaly wait for those who die apart from Christ. Do you beleive He had to use disception to convince people of a truth? That doesn't line up with His Holy charactor. That seems to be what your indicating when you mention that He had to use the illistration of fire to convince them of a truth.
deckercarol 3 years ago
Matt 27:52,53 speaks of those who come up at the time of Jesus' ressurection. Jude 1:14 Who are the ten thousands of saints mentioned here? The resurrection hasn't yet accured, but this is The Lords aproach. What did Paul mean when he said apart from the body preent with the Lord? I think there is evidence either way in this area, and that's why we don't hang our hats on it. Do you beleive, that to die apart from God, is just to enter a state of no existence? No torment for eternity?
deckercarol 3 years ago
I will say, I've never had someone take me through a trip like this one to end up with almost the same conclussin. I do beleive we have a consciousness after death though, and this is just one scripture reference to that. There are other that suggest the same thing.
deckercarol 3 years ago
Lk 16:16-18 tells that of Jesus saying that the time of the law and prophets has passed. But that,it would be easier for heaven and earth to pas away than for one dot of the law to pass away.Out of seamingly nowhere he gives us the 7th commandment.He is telling us here that God's perfect law will never pass away, it's His Holy standard.But that He is come to fulfill that Holy standerd.And yes, those of us who are in Him will be with Him, all others will be as the rich man.I think we agree here:)
deckercarol 3 years ago
Everything you are saying here is Bible. However, your looking again at a main theme and in doing so your missing out on the rest of what is being conveyed. Fire and brimstone is a matter of interpretation by many scholars who dissagree with one another on the interpretations of Rev 20. The rich man and Lazarus give us insite into a consciecnes after death, although we don't know exactly what that will be, we can know that the rich man and Lazarus are aware of where they are.
deckercarol 3 years ago
So,how would Jesus show the mixed company of listeners,in no uncertain terms,that no longer could they claim that having Abraham as a forefather would guarantee salvation?(Rich Man,Lazarus) How could he show that rejecting the messiah was a sin against the Holy Spirit meriting eternal death without hope of a resurrection?(fire)Luke 16 shows the CHANGE that Jesus initiated and the Apostles expounded upon.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Another reason why Jesus use illustrations had to do with the attitude of unbelievers who were listening."So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie,in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness."(2Thess 2:11,12) A love of badness prohibits one from understanding divine light.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Take a look at James 4:4. Friendship with the world alienated from God is likened to adultery.James knew the meaning of Luke16.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
It might be more helpful if you would just tell me, what your attempting to convey, and then explain, in scripture, how you came to this conclussion. What for instance, is the specific target for the parable? And then we can go to scripture and see if this application of thought aplies to the text.
deckercarol 3 years ago
To the contrary,Jere3:10 concerns marriage(in this case,symbolic marriage to Jehovah)and Deu11:26 shows why that metaphor is appropriate. I don't expect any thinking person to believe a statement that I just throw out there(who am I?). As you said,it must be supported throughout the scriptures. Also,revealing the answer through clues gives me an idea of YOUR intellect.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
What your doing in regard to Luke 16, is inserting human thought or ideas into the text, when you should be, taking the thought, from the text. Deu 11:26,27; Jer 3:14 have nothing to do with Luke 16. Your taking passages of scripture out of context.
deckercarol 3 years ago
"What your doing in regard to Luke 16, is inserting human thought or ideas into the text" Human thought was the level that Jesus was bringing this great teaching down to. Jesus wants us to think about deep things,imperfect though we are,we owe it to our Lord to at least try.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Homosexuals state, that it is ok, to be that way, because Paul says, That in Christ, there is now, no male or female, nor greek, nor jew but all are one in Him. They "insert" a suggested idea, that Paul makes reference to, their sexual orientation in light of his statement. The suggestion again isn't there but is being inserted to suit a particular bent in human thought.
deckercarol 3 years ago
The Father , same thing. And to really blow our minds He (God) says in numurous places in scripture that He Is One. Nothing in the The teaching of The Holy Trinity is inserted into the text, it is taken from the text and is therefore what the text actualy says. This is not some kind of made up thing as is taught by many, rather an understanding of God, pouring off of the pages, Of His Word.
deckercarol 3 years ago
Remember that the text has to be making the suggestion and in numerous places for the idea to be Doctrine. This is why The Holy Trinity Is Doctrine. Holy Spirit isn't called a person, however Holy Spirit is refered to as He, Comforter, Teacher, Guide, all personal attributes giving Him what we refer to as the title of person. The suggestion again is in the text. The same thing with Jesus Himself, however Jesus is actual called God as well as the suggestion being in place within the text.>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
Our Heavenly Father is God, our Heavenly Savior Is God, and The Holy Spirit Is God. They are all God, totaly and completely, equaly God, yet, only One. The human mind cannot understand this in the flesh. We try and explain and we fall short in our explanation, not because the subject isn't in the text, but because He is so Awesome that , like the psalmist, we too can only say He is to great for us to contain Him.
deckercarol 3 years ago
The Lord has used me before,maybe He's using me now.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
I'm going to study this thing out and prayerfuly seek the Lord in this idea you are presenting. You indicate that all of God's Word is pivital on this, and that conserns me in that we can get into error when we, as I said before, hang our hats on any one passage as it relates to a subject that isn't being suggested, but rather inserted. Again, even if the suggestion, is there, it MUST be in many other passages to be considered Doctrine. And this is, what your saying, if it is that important
deckercarol 3 years ago
Hey,I was right about the Kingdom theme wasn't I?
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
I believe the theme of rulership that you gave is a correct theme, but not the only theme. Again I don't hold the view that the Bible has only one theme. I think allot gets lost when we do that simply because of the way we as humans process thought. God is so Vast and Awesome that the human mind cannot contain Him. The psalmist makes note of this as well in that God is to great for him to obtain. This is why we will never fully understand God as He is, in the flesh. Con>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
Look at vs 18Everyone that divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he that marries a woman divorced from a husband commits adultery." This would seem out of context if you didn't understand the parable,but it really has a direct bearing on the parable itself
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
vs 18,This, as I read it, is flowing out of and from vs 16 to give us a clear picture of the fact that the Moral law remains in place The (Ten Commandments).
deckercarol 3 years ago
Ok.Back to Luke 16;The law covenant was conditional.See, I am putting before YOU today blessing and malediction: the blessing, provided YOU will obey the commandments of Jehovah YOUR God that I am commanding YOU today"(Deu.11:26,27).Marriage is also conditional,"forsaking all others".The Nation was in a marriage-like arrangement,"I myself[Jehovah] have become the husbandly owner of YOU people"(Jere.3:14)Do you see what I'm getting at here,and how it sets up a specific target for the parable?
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
For example; We in our stupidity refer to Holy Spirit as a person. However No where in the Bible will we find The Holy Spirit actualy being called a person. We do this out of our ignorance because we Know The Holy Spirit as having the Attributes of a Person. We don't mean to be in error here, We just take for granted that He Is a Personal Being given the many suggestions within the text that describe Holy Spirit as such.
deckercarol 3 years ago
If we take a suggestion from a passage that is actualy indicating in some way or another that the suggested subject is there, then that is ok to do. If we want to hang our hat on a particular subject, that's entirely different, as we would need to see the suggestion in numerous places to suport it as Biblical truth. We can't take a suggested topic or subject and aplie it to the scriptures to imply a meaning that may not exist. The suggestion needs to come from the text, not be aplied to the text
deckercarol 3 years ago
If you don't understand this parable you can't understand the rest of God's word. Believe me,it's that important.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Look at verse 16The Law and the Prophets were until John. From then on the kingdom of God is being declared as good news, and every sort of person is pressing forward toward it." Jesus is setting the stage for a lesson that would have meaning throughout the scriptures. And it does.And it's wonderful. Shall I continue?
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
yes, please continue.
deckercarol 3 years ago
So do you think it's literal or a parable? I've some more goodies but I don't want to WASTE my time.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
To be honest I believe it to be both literal and a Parable. Example; the seed and the sower is also both literal and is also that of a parable. It is a literal truth, of the sowing of God's Word yet is illistrated through the seed and the soil. Again, the suggestion is in the text. We need to ask ourselves what is being suggested in the text and not insert something that isn't there. Example; Con>>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
I'm looking at the way you are reading Luke 16:19-31 and it apears to me, to be, interesting thought, however interesting thought isn't the same thing as what is actualy being conveyed. Of course we can speculate on things like this, but in the end we need to be careful with what is actualy being suggested. The suggestion that you are making in reference to the # 6 and the person Jesus raised from the dead "Lazarus" again is interesting however it simply isn't what is being said in this passage.
deckercarol 3 years ago
"the poor would always be among us and we are expected to assist them in love. " Come on,deckercarol,you can go deeper than that can't you? This is the meat of God's word,there is great meaning here.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
"Paul says to be apart from the body is to be present with the Lord" I view this in the same sense of 1Cor.5:20"I for one, although absent in body but present in spirit, have certainly judged already, as if I were present" Paul wasn't dead when he said this. We use similar expressions today.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
1 Cor 5:20 that's a very good point and this view, may be, the correct view, in what Paul is actualy conveying.
deckercarol 3 years ago
I think that Jesus going through this as He does in both accounts in reference to the good samaratitan only means that He places a High priority on caring for the poor, needy, people in our daily path that need our assistence. Not that it is virtuous in any way to be a begger, but that the poor would always be among us and we are expected to assist them in love.
deckercarol 3 years ago
There is no doubt that the rich man did something bad. But if that were the point of the story it would be more clear. The fact is that this parable is about a CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES for the "hungry" that Jesus spoke of in the sermon on the mount. The scribes and pharisees had every chance and they blew it. You'll notice in the opening vs that this parable was directed at them.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
It's also interesting that the rich man knew who Abraham was as the story doesn't give any suggestion as to this being in Abrahams day where their paths may have crossed and they would have known one another in life. Reminds me of the thief on the cross where Jesus said Today you will be with me in paradise. There is evidence in scripture of an awareness of something after the body dies. Paul says to be apart from the body is to be present with the Lord (another one that comes to mind).
deckercarol 3 years ago
The rich man knew he was there and starving to death yet there is no indication that he did anything to assist Lazarus. There is no indication that he did anything at all, just left him there to starve and let the dirty dogs lick his wonds. And we know that Lazarus had been there a while because as we can see in v 23 he knows Lazarus by name after recognizing him standing with Abraham, and then was trying to give orders for Lazarus to help relieve his torment.
deckercarol 3 years ago
That lesson was already covered in "The Good Samaritan". If that's the lesson then that would mean there is something virtuous about being a beggar.There is something much deeper here. For instance,the dogs;How were dogs viewed by jews? Do you really think that someone could carry on a conversation from heaven(by-the-way it doesn't say heaven but"the bossom position with Abraham)with someone tormented in hell?
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
The rich man had 5 brothers. 5+the rich man=6. I'm sure you know 6 is a symbolic number.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Lets go back to the comment from luke 16:19 you believe no here. That is true given that's where you stop reading. It's very clear from vs 20,21 that the rich man had no consern for Lazaras; He was laying at his gate starving and had soars covering his body. Desiring to eat what fell from the rich mans table and even the dogs came and licked his soars. The sin is easy to see here in this story. con>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
Interesting that Jesus raised someone named Lazarus from the dead and the jews tried to destroy the evidence by putting a hit out on Lazarus(John12:10,11)"But Abraham said, They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to these. Then he said, No, indeed, father Abraham, but if someone from the dead goes to them they will repent. But he said to him, If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be persuaded if someone rises from the dead.Luke 16:29-31)
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
It's not just the rich man & Lazarus we're talking about.vs.26" And besides all these things, a great chasm has been fixed between us and YOU people, so that those wanting to go over from here to YOU people cannot, neither may people cross over from there to us." cont.>
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
I can and will refute the trinity on a scriptural basis. But for now let's talk about Hell. I backed up and noticed that our discussion actually began with this subject. You cited the parable of The Rich Man and Lazarus. That's why I referred to the theme of the Bible. Just as the "wheat and weeds"represented believers and unbelievers in Jesus' illustrations,the Rich Man is not literal. If that were the case then it would be a sin to be wealthy. I know a lot about this parable.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Now whose being presumptuous and assuming more than is stated in His Word?:) This however isn't something we hang our hats on as doctrine anyway, so either way it still not a major consern.
deckercarol 3 years ago
Back to The rich man & Lazarus luke 16:19-31. I'm not understanding how if this is a literal but only illustrational; Where do you get the idea that it is a sin to be rich. That isn't even the point of the discusion taking place. The sin was in how he choose to spend his riches and ignore compassion love & mercy that he should have had for the poor, with contempt as he treated him badly on top of that. I don't see any indication that him being rich was the sin that put him there.
deckercarol 3 years ago
Read it again. The story only says..."But a certain man was rich, and he used to deck himself with purple and linen, enjoying himself from day to day with magnificence."(Luke 16:19) There is no real description of a sin committed. The rich man represents the nation as a whole,whereas Lazarus represents Jesus disciples. The death of the two represents the change in their relationship with Jehovah. Look at the symbols in the story. cont.>
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Therefore it really should'nt suprise any of us that the Trinity can never be fully comprehended by us as long as we are still in the flesh. There are many places in the scriptures where one who is called The Father is identified as being God, one who is called Jesus is identified as being God & one who is call Holy Spirit is identified as being God. And yet God is refered to as Only One God in many references...Trinity-One God who exists in three personages, yet He remains One God--not three.
deckercarol 3 years ago
As for the Trinity; Ultimately, The Holy Trinity is a Mystery to the Human Flesh. This of course doesn't suprise me, for, in a similar manner, how much can a younge child understand of the maturity and loving relationship of his or her father and mother, incliding the interaction of the components of love,intellect, psychi, & soul within their personalities? A small child would not be able to grasp such things, and is not God even higher above us than the parents of a small child?>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
Why would God inspire and preserve the Bible,the sum of all we know about him,if God couldn't be understood? To assume more than is stated in His word would be presumptuous.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
I gave allot of prayer and thought to your comment on death as my heart is burdened that you don't have a hope beyond the grave. This idea has been around a long time. The Apostle Paul spoke about this allot in the Apistles as he was confronted with many who believed, even back then as you yourself do today. I want you to know that Christ died to give you this very real tangable Hope. So I am going to the scriptures in prayer that The Lord will show me what to share that you may know this Hope
deckercarol 3 years ago
I've also enjoyed our discussions. In fact your's is the first letter I read when I open my inbox. Now let's not jump to conclusions about my hope for life after death. You asked me,"what do believe will happen to you when you die?" Perhaps you really want to know if I have faith in the resurrection from the dead. I do.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
That is surely good news:) I realize that the place Of Hell is thought of in different ways, but all assert in the Church that it is total and complete seperation from God for Eternity. As to the grave and what actualy takes place at the moment of death I myself fall short on a real understanding scripturaly of that subject. I do believe that to be apart from the body is to be present with the Lord, as Paul states. I don't have a clear definition on what all that means.con>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
"total and complete seperation from God for Eternity"-I disagree.Here's why;"he saw beforehand and spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that neither was he forsaken in Ha′des nor did his flesh see corruption."(Acts 2:31)How does your Bible read on this.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
This speaks of the Resurrection of Chtist. His Resurrection was indeed a physical and total Resurrection. Those of us who die in Christ (believers) will be raised (resurrected) at the time of the Rapture mention in 1 Thes 4:14-16. Those who die without Christ will be resurrected at the end of the thousand year reign, to what is refered to in scripture as the final judgement where they will then be cast into what Rev 20 refers to as the lake of fire.
deckercarol 3 years ago
The point is that Christ was not forsaken in Hades,He was there until resurrected after 3 days.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Yes I agree, I'm not sure where your going with that but so far I agree that He was Resurrected after three days.
deckercarol 3 years ago
I was trying to keep this simple and you won't answer my questions. They were simple questions that you have avoided since we started comunicating. Do you think your a good person? And what do believe will happen to you when you die? I would still love to know your thoughts on those two things (if you choose to share). If not it has been interesting comunicating with you. Be Blessed
deckercarol 3 years ago
Not avoiding,just trying to stay focused.Mark 10:18 'Jesus said to him: Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God."I hope you can understand why I think that is a trick question. Death:The ceasing of all functions of life. After breathing, heartbeat, and brain activity stop, the life-force gradually ceases to function in body cells. Death is the opposite of life.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
1peter3--thanks for sharing your thoughts on my questions. You are correct in that no one but God is Good. And the question wasn't really a trick question. There are allot of people who sincerely beleive they are good people because they never rob a bank or murdered someone. I know that we will all be judge by a Holy Just God that will judge our lives here, by His Standards and not mans standards. His Standards are the Ten Commandments. Jesus expanded on them making them a matter of the heart>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
Jesus said,"...let your name(YHVH) be sanctified,let your KINGDOM come...". It's RULERSHIP. Who has the right and the ability to rule the earth. That is the theme of the Bible. A word of advice,keep it simple,that's what Jesus did.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Rev 20:15 All whose names are not found written in the book of life will be condemned for the record of their deeds and thrown in the lake of fire. Those enrolled in the lambs book of life enter the new Jerusalem (21:27)
deckercarol 3 years ago
because the names in that book are of those who have been redeemed by "the lamb who was slain" for their sins. Their recorded deeds attest to their trust in Christ and is also the basis of their rewards. Rev 20:14 death the last enemy, will be destroyed when Christ returns and raise believers(1 Cor 15:23-26). Therefore Death and Hades will be the last to be thrown into the lake of fire, the second death, where they will join the beast,false prophet & devil Rev 19:20,20:10.>>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
God keeps an accurate record of every human deed, and will reward and punish with perfect justice.Rev 20:13 The sea, Death and Hades(the realm of the dead)will give up thier dead as all people return to bodily exist to be judged(2 Cor 5:10)By Jesus(Matt 16:27, John 5:28-29,Acts 17:31).They were judged acording to what they had done.Unbeleivers will be rightly condemned for their sins.Believers, whose names are in the book of life, will enter into a new Heaven & new Earth(21:1)>>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
How can the dead be judged based on their past sins when the Bible clearly says,"For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin."(Romans 6:7)This would not be just.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Rom 6:1-23 Hope as a result of Righteousness by Faith. The central theme of chs. 5-8 is that believers in Christ, who are righteous in God's sight, have a certain hope of future glory and eternal life. Rom 6:1-23 The Triumph of Grace over the power of sin. The law does not and cannot conquer sin, but grace given to followers of Christ triumphs over sin and death. Rom 6:7 ONE WHO HAS DIED,,MEANS ONE WHO HAS DIED WITH CHRIST..this scripture is not a reference in suport of my question to you.
deckercarol 3 years ago
Rev 20:11 The Great White Throne reflects the purity and wisdom of the ancient of days. Earth and sky fled away. This removal of the first Heaven and Earth fortold(Hag 2:6, Heb 12:26-28, and previewed in Rev 6:12-14, 16:18-21)prepares for the new Heaven and Earth(21:1, 4-5,Isa65:17,66:22,2 Pet3:10-13. Rev 20:12 The dead great and small include both God's saints and the beast's worshipers (13:16, 19:18)Books recording their deeds wil be opened(Dan7:10)providing the grounds by which each is judged
deckercarol 3 years ago
Back to the video;Rev.20:11-15The last Judgment and destruction of death the last enemy. All the dead will be raised from the grave and the sea, to be judged either by their deeds recorded in "the books" or by God's Gracious registration of their names in the Lambs "Book Of Life". This judgement was announced in 11:18 con>>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
Another clue."Then Jehovah said to Samuel: Listen to the voice of the people as respects all that they say to you; for it is not you whom they have rejected, but it is I whom they have rejected from being king over them(1Samuel 8:7)
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
The key here is that of the people wanting to be "like all others Nations". Rather than follow God's ways for them they prefered to follow the ways of the world. Basically a rejection of His Kingship over them.
deckercarol 3 years ago
You are getting closer to the answer in a roundabout way. What was second on Jesus' list of priorities in the model prayer,aka Lord's prayer,aka the our Father?
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
If you study out the Lord's Prayer, what does it say to you? To me; We are to know Him (intimately as Father) acknowledge in awe His Holiness. Ask in accordence with His will only as it pertains to His Kingdom. Knowing that only He can sustain us in this life. And that only He can Forgive us and deliver us from all sin and evil.
deckercarol 3 years ago
An entire nation that Jehovah guided and protected was cast off in the end. ("This is why I say to YOU, The kingdom of God will be taken from YOU and be given to a nation producing its fruits."Matt21:43)So,personal aspirations,if they are not in agreement with the divine will,mean nothing in the final scheme of things.If I understand your 2cent response,the theme of the Bible is NOT the demonstration of God's power. Do you give up? I see that serengetijane is getting impatient.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Your sound here as if your a beleiver in replacement theology. I however am not as the Jews are God's chosen people and His Promise to preserve them can be seen in the NT as well as the OT. There is allot of speculation and debate in the Church about it, although most Christian scholars wouldn't agree with you as to the final out come of the Jewish people because there is to much evidence in the Bible that God will save them in the end. I still don't see your theme in any of this.
deckercarol 3 years ago
I don't know about"replacement theology"but I do know what Christ said/Matt.23:37,38. What Peter said/Acts10:34,35.What Paul said/1Cor.7:19. Do you really think there is any other way to the Father besides Jesus? In fact a great many of Jesus'parables as well as the prophets pointed toward the final separation of Jehovah with that nation.You must distinguish between a natural jew and a spiritual jew. That's what Jesus does,he reads hearts.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
This I think we are just misunderstanding one another in. I believe that the Jewish people will come to the saving knowledge of Christ. I don't think apart from Christ anyone will enter into His Kingdom irregardless of their race. So lets move on because we obviously both agree on this.
deckercarol 3 years ago
I'm too busy living to think about dying. You don't care what happens to me when I die anyway.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
If I didn't care what happened to you when you die I sure wouldn't spend all this time on a you tube video site trying to find out what you beleive in reference to that. It does consern me. Doesn't it consen you? Do you think your a good person? Most folks do.
deckercarol 3 years ago
We of course Know why that is--God is the Author of the Bible. And if He wrote it He can surely preserve it, even untill now 2008. It's like His promise to Israel, His promise to us. If He said it He will do it inspite of all mans attempts to prevent, pervert and distort. I'm not sure that is the answer to the question you ask me, but that's my two cents worth anyway. I do have a question for you if you would like to answer; What do you think will happen to you when you die?
deckercarol 3 years ago
I prefer the translations that attempt a word for word translation like ESV and NASB because they are much more suited for study. But thought for thought Bibles still comunicate God's Truth, like NIV. The texual accuracy and texual proof of the English Bible, as it relates to the thousands of Ancient Manuscripts that scholars have in their possession, is simply amazing. There isn't any other piece of literature that comes even remotely close to the texual support(Ancient copies) of the Bible.>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
It reminds me of How God is in total control of all He has promised. He says in His Word that Heaven and earth shale pass away, but His Word will remain forever. That makes me think of how well He has preserved His Word through all these generations. If you really think about it, the Bible has only been translated once into English from Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic. Most contemporary English Bibles can be trusted (not all-some have been intentionaly corrupted). con>>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
firstpeterthree--what words don't you understand? I simply ask you to define for yourself, God, The Person of Christ, Heaven, Hell, Grace, Eternity, Satan, False Prophets, False teachers, Anti-Christ. Then search the Bible and find where your definitions of these subjects are taught. If you are troubled by the word Hell then define the lake of fire as described in Rev 20.
deckercarol 3 years ago
firstpeterthree--What is the ONE theme? This question can't be answered as the question itself is faulted. Although over 40 different men over a period of some 2000 yrs wrote it?? HUH? Genesis through Rev.?
deckercarol 3 years ago
The Bible as I see it, and I could be wrong. Has many themes. It seems more fruitful to understand the OT for instance as a whole in terms of an unfolding story, with a number of basic components: Monotheism, Creation and Fall, Ellection and Covenant, Eschatology. And the message of the NT cannot be seperated from the OT. Just my opinion, as I've never been ask this before. I'm guessing this is what you are refering to as to the ONE theme that runs through the Bible.
deckercarol 3 years ago
Yes.There is one common theme throughout. You have to put aside your fear or personal expectations of an afterlife to really see it. You're on the right track by saying that,you"could be wrong". That is a sign of humility. Another hint then;it's the reason why Hitler persecuted JW's and why God-fearing people throughout history became martyrs.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
I'm still not getting the one theme your refering to.
deckercarol 3 years ago
Hitler?? He persucuted all kinds of people, JWs, homosexuals, Jews, Anyone who disagreed with his veiws. He was nutts!! What's the answer already I'm on the edge of my seat
deckercarol 3 years ago
well ok if I must come up with one theme and only one theme I would have to say "redemption" as it runs through from Gen-Rev. But you already said it wasn't salvation so you have totally lost me on this one.
deckercarol 3 years ago
Another clue then,a question; Why are the failures of Israelite kings detailed in the hebrew scriptures? This chronology stands in stark contrast to what one would expect from a canon that was protected and even contributed to by said rulers. The more common practice then,as well as now,is to highlight the accomplishments and gloss-over or ignore completely their failures.
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
I'm glad you ask that question, because as I was going through the Bible last night I was just absolutely amazed, all over again at the Awesome Sovereignty of God. Anyway, here's my two cents worth; The failures of the Kings of Isreal are so well magnified for the purpose of God displaying His Sovereign control in the midst of our failings. He held true to His promise to them as a nation and brought them through it all inspite of them. con>>
deckercarol 3 years ago
What is the point of this question 1Peter3..surely, you have something to say? Why not just say it?
serengetijane 3 years ago
serengetijane--I just received a personal e-mail from you in my inbox. Are you trying to say by your strange and unusual comment that you think there is a type of "you tube cop" that decides who does and who doesn't get to leave comments on you tube video sites? Interesting:) Haven't I bumped into you before? Aren't you the one who said "Tall White Guys dressed like Quakers live on the Moon"? :)
deckercarol 3 years ago
Does the Bible indicate whether the dead experience pain?
Eccl. 9:5, 10: The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,* the place to which you are going. (If they are conscious of nothing, they obviously feel no pain.)
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
Luke 16:19-31 is pretty clear to me. you?
deckercarol 3 years ago
What are those words? The Hebrew sheohl′ and its Greek equivalent hai′des, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind; also the Greek ge′en·na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction. However, both in Christendom and in many non-Christian religions it is taught that hell is a place inhabited by demons and where the wicked, after death, are punished (and some believe that this is with torment).
firstpeterthree 3 years ago
You can't find your definitions of these things in scripture because what you beleive them to be are not actualy found there.
deckercarol 3 years ago
The picture of the lake of fire that you show looks super sweet compared to what it actually looks like. It's dark, you can't move there is no color except for the blue flames in the darkness and all you can hear is the roar of the fire. And there are demons there that torture. You message is good but please change the pretty picture of the lake of fire. It is very deceiving
IseeJesuseverywhere 3 years ago
I don't think it looks real comfortable myself. I actualy thought it looked rather awful. So if by that you mean it's gona be much worse,,AmenAmen, who could possibly be nutts enough to say yes to that!!
deckercarol 3 years ago
Nice.
JoyousinJesus 3 years ago
Videos on you tube, what a wonderfull way to get the truth out:)
deckercarol 3 years ago
>_>
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112233blinx 3 years ago