Tosca-Magda Oliviero-Vissi d'arte vissi d'amore

[piax00]

In two radio polls in the 50s/60s people chose Olivero over Callas as their favorite. You have to realize people back then listened to opera broadcasts over the radio. Today Olivero is not as known as Callas for the simple reason that she did not record a lot. She was a latecomer to the Met (1975), where she made her debut at the age of 65, to what was said to be the longest standing ovation in Met history. Why did the Met take so long? Well, its the US, so money takes precedence over art.

[piax00]

Callas definitely developed a lot of flaws over time, but when she was good, she was a genius. It was incredible technique, agility, musical instinct, stage presence and acting, daring, and understanding of the score all in one electric package. You can hear it even in some of the studio recordings. Netrebko's stage presence, charisma and beauty are also electric, but the vocal quality and production is comparatively dull and lacking in dynamics. Interpretation is not original.

[miki181092]

@circearte 3) circa le grandi dell'epoca, la Olivero è stata una grande dell'epoca, tanto da suscitare l'ammirazione da parte delle colleghe (ad esempio la Callas e la Tebaldi), oltre che dal pubblico;

4) sul "vibratino da dilettante" penso sia sufficiente farti ricordare (o sapere) che la signora possedeva una tecnica spaventosa, sempre riconosciutale sia dalla critica sia dai maestri sia dai colleghi e colleghe.

Ti consiglio di contare fino a dieci e pensare prima di scrivere commenti idioti.

[miki181092]

@circearte secondo me hai scritto delle cretinate:

1) l'intonazione non è un'opinione, è un dato di fatto e la signora è palesemente intonata;

2) per quanto riguarda l'interpretazione ti ricordo che la suddetta è stata definita una delle più grandi cantanti-attrici del XX secolo al pari della Callas; inoltre le sue doti interpretative non sono mai state messe in discussione da nessuno, figurarsi dal primo che capita su youtube;

[fabriou]

@miki181092 Concordo...purtroppo il timbro era brutto, se possibile ancora piu' brutto di quello della callas)

[circearte]

l'intonazione è una opinione ! Interpretativamente pessima, se facciamo un raffronto con le grandi dell'epoca ! E poi quel vibratino da dilettante.......

[tebaldicallas]

The voice is not very beautiful - shaky notes - but still good singer.

[piax00]

@tebaldicallas I don't think her voice is shaky, I think it is just a very fast vibrato

[tebaldicallas]

@tebaldicallas I still think the voice is shaky and the sound not too beautiful

unllke Tebaldi - Milanov - but i still like her in other operas IE: Fedora or Adriana.

Tosca is not for her IMO.

[lesleypaul59]

...like everytime 'UNIQUE' !!! LES (thanks for upload !)

[Juliet0307]

Beliisimo...e tanto,tanto sensibile!

[vpo2g2]

Quite possibly the greatest Vissi d'arte ever filmed. A first rate voice and actress.

[chrisz78]

@eleniathens1985 ...but the definition of a musical note in terms of pitch is objective, and Olivero respects it just like Patti, Melba or Boninsegna did, unlike Callas, Netrebko, and countless other wobbly, yowling drunken-slut-impersonators. After Olivero, there was only Mara Zampieri to keep the banner up, and now nobody with a healthy ear and mind would set foot in an opera house - only records remain of the glory that European Music once was, before Afro-American Imperialism strangled it.

[PianoTuningLover]

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[Crwthy]

A Tosca in the true Italianate tradition. .. Beautifully sung. .. Powerfully acted.

[eleniathens1985]

It gets to my nerves when people compare two opera singers!!Every singer has her own distinctive and unique voice! You may like one more the other but that doesn't necessarily mean that she is actually better!!!! Tastes in opera are very subjective!

[abracadabranque]

Une voix parfois neutre,parfois stridulente,à la pose un peu aléatoire,avec parfois des accents très intéressants.Voyons voir autre chose...

[shaby3333]

she is great..she always was...but how can you ever think to compare her with CALLAS?!?!?..pshhh

[flyboytim]

Get over Callas.

Most of the time she is crap.

So many other sensational singers in the history of singing.

Move on.

Happy Days.

[31122051]

Che donna MERAVIGLIOSA, che voce, che tecnica ! ! ! ! ! In una parola sola : SPETTACOLARE.

[arranobeltzaz]

Magifica Magda. Meravigliosa interpretazione. Difficile cantare meglio quest'aria.

[QuiRan82]

I also like her! Did not know her before, shame on me!

[Flaviat57]

I wish people stopped comparing EVERY soprano to Callas! Every singer has her own distinctive voice, and with so many characters and roles, each voice is suited for different roles. Callas was good, but there were, and are, others who are just as great, if not better! We are all different, so are singers. Get over it!

[lhrlyc]

very moving - almost equalling Callas's 1964 version [better than Callas's 1956!]

[jacopito2007]

meravigliosa... e pochi giorni fa 100 anni!! che vita straordinaria.

[mcknighty11]

Happy Birthday Magda! Amazing singer! Even though she is relatively unknown, I still love her.

[sp3nk1]

100 anni!

[ElisabettaVS]

@sp3nk1 101 today!

[Plowrightclips]

"relatively unknown" Funny ! shes one of the most famous sopranos of any age !

[mcknighty11]

@Plowrightclips

I didn't mean any disrespect by that. I just mean of people my age. Younger opera fanatics who have not heard of her. I never heard of her until last year. Once I found her voice I bought a few albums and watched her as much as I could on youtube.

[ElisabettaVS]

@Plowrightclips People with interest in opera know her, people, that are not so much interested in opera, still know Callas, but not her. Callas is really known to everyone, Oliver to the people that really love opera.

[fabriou]

@ElisabettaVS the reason why calls is known by everyone(even to a boy fanatic of MADONNA and lady gaga) and other liric singers are not, doesn't depend on her being superior than others...the reason of callas popularity is the gossippy and glamourous life she lived thanks to Onassis & co. (I like callas and she was in fact a great artist...but to be a great artist in the opera field doesn't give you the popularity of a football player or a hollywood actor.Going around with onassis does.

[ElisabettaVS]

@fabriou I don't think it was just that - today we have Netrebko, she wasn't dating a famous person before she go famous, now she is married to another famous opera singer (both of them not good in my opinion... but that doesn't matter, right?). It wasn't just Callas' relationship to Onassis, it surely put her into the spotlight of the time, yes, but it wasn't the only reason she got that famous.

[piax00]

@fabriou Callas was famous before she went with Onassis. It was Onassis who was a rich nobody, so he went after Callas. Callas sang less when she went with Onassis, and developed a wobble. Her career was funded by her husband, Meneghini, and she got famous for singing very different types of rep a few days apart - like Wagner 2 days after Verdi, for ex. And she had no children and never stopped. Olivero, however, stopped for 10 yrs and only sang in small Italian theaters, so she wasn't known.

[fabriou]

@piax00 you have re-invented the history your way...onassis was a NOBODY?...he was the most famous man in the worlds and had connections to every mafia , evey price, every count..every princess of the world...through HIM she could get into the huh society...so when she died she got a glamourous image...not due to his art (in which she was very good) but due to these connections...please don't joke around with history

[piax00]

@fabriou No. Her affair with Onassis began in 1959 when her career was on the decline because of her many no-shows and scandals. And Onassis may have been the most famous Greek (whom the old rich Gks looked down on precisely because of his sleazy connections and for being charged with fraud by the FBI), but Sir Winston Churchill was still alive and was on the same yacht trip where the affair began. Onassis was certainly not more famous than either Callas or Churchill.

[fabriou]

@piax00 My god!the difference between me and you is that for you Callas is the best soprano but you are not objiective;for me Callas is the best soprano ever but I try to be objective.Opera is(sadly) a field which has never been "fashionable"There had been most famous opera singers in the 19 and 20th centurys but when they died their memory died(sadly)Callas and Pavarotti's memory go on not because of their artistry but for other reagions(about callas it was Onassis affair,about Pavarotti other)

[piax00]

@fabriou Where did I ever say that Callas was the best? There are many good sopranos in different roles. She was seminal, sure, but voices are different for different purposes. You say you are being objective but you are assuming a lot of things that aren't true, and you are doing this by emotionally reacting. Before Callas met Onassis, she was already a star and had a lot of recordings and scandals. She would have been remembered even if Onassis never existed.

[fabriou]

@piax00 I think not.There had been famous and scandalous sopranos and tenors before,while and after her,and after she died they disappeared from the memory(I dont't mean the memory of opera-interested people but the memory of mass-media).For instance I spoke with people who were always at LA Scala and they assured me that at that time GIUSEPPE DI STEFANO was AS famous AS callas,and Del Monaco,and Corelli,but they didn't date any onassis ..and today they are not remembered by mass media as Callas

[piax00]

@fabrio if you are talking about mass media, that is a good argument, but unfortunately, we will never be able to test it because she did date Onassis. Callas' dramatic weight loss before Onassis and fashion sense inspired magazine ads for weight loss using her name, and documentaries, and these images could be used in the future, making people remember her. Moreover, dating Onassis made her sing less; if she hadn't dated Onassis she might have appeared in more films than the one by Pasolini.

[PascualG65]

Hermosa intepretación, Olivero la haace en forma magistral La escucho una y otra vez y siempre disfruto cada nota. Creo que es de mediados de los 60's.

[tonyhan0903]

I love her diction.

[gattoarancio]

She's perfect!

[FJMLAM]

Gorgeous, gorgeous Voice. So warm and resonant. Beautifully clear diction.Love it!

[Aetion]

Wonderful! Which year is it from pls?

Thanks for posting.

[tonyhan0903]

Love her clear diction and resonance.

[MarcuCezar]

Maybe Gheorghiu's version...???

[vpo2g2]

On, film, you will never find a better version.

[tenordramaticitm2]

awesome!

[willy1514]

An opera singer who can sing AND act.

WOW!

[dngrbunny]

WOW !

[espinaca79]

Wohoo! I'm impressed by her delicate and yet powerful acting. Wonderful !!!!

[rexeterna]

DIVINA

[MrBardack88]

fantastico capisco tutto...i soprani di oggi dovrebbero pensare più alla parola e meno al suono....tutto verrebbe valorizzato ..grande artista del passato...grazie

[sincerity112]

concordo

[yodavidnavarro]

I think is flawless. I'm sure her recognition is not great enough. She's so good!

[bajulum]

Dans mon opinion, personne ne le chante aussi bien, de façon aussi étale et juste du point de vue du sentiment religieux. Tout y est : l'abandon et l'humilité au coeur de l'imploration.

[qklq42]

She is a soooooooooooooooo great Tosca.

I admire her as the greatest italian soprano. I have some 80 integral operas of her on CD and on LP.

She is a wonderful interpreter.I;m glad that I had the opertunity to see her in Amsterdam and Bois le Duc.

Hans NL

[JosephCercy]

The words are so clearly pronounced and so full of emotion. Devasting!

[cicciarello]

...la più emozionanate.

[dt195k2]

Simply magnificent. She's one of the last great "real" spintos. I am not that familiar with her, but having heard this, I now understand why she is considered by so many as being so sublime.

[31122051]

Meravigliosa, sicuramente una delle migliori di tutti i tempi.

[gitefromm]

Beauty personified. How wonderful a species we have become.

[peterdakay]

The best Tosca forever.

[alejandra379]

As Frederic Chopin said once: "simplicity is the greatest and most difficult thing to achieve in art". It sees that Magda Olivero mastered it....

[soffiodisatana]

Le altre sono bravissime.....Magda e' super!! Non c'e' confronto.....Magda: una Lamborghini che svetta in un piazzale di ferrari e porsche!!!!!! MAGDA UBER ALLES!!!!

[Cavaradossi1981]

TEBALDI, CIGNA and SCUDERI were the greatest Toscas

[lhrlyc]

callas wins I am afraid ... despite her faults, she acts them all off the stage

[SENAFOREVER]

I love Madam Olivero!

[pasielu]

grande ancora adesso a 98 anni ho letto che in chiesa alla domenica va a cantare,e dicono che ha ancora una bella voce.

[rawdonqueen]

This is a unique and moving interpretation that defies all criticism.

[foerster]

grande Magda Olivero!

[schammas82]

where is this video from?

[Arashi110]

The 1960 film, available on DVD.

[schwarzkavalier]

Unfogettable Magda!!She is still singing nowadays at the age of 98!!!Great singer and great woman!