@linn1000 Also, a Carrera s2 is not a performance vehicle. It's a wannabe sports car that Porsche created for the masses. A Mitsubishi Evo or Subaru Sti would hand you your ass on any track in the states.
@linn1000 Yes, I absolutely own a GTR and have owned many performance cars several times. I like the Carrera's but had a Turbo 996 before and don't think I could go back to the N/A world again. I will post pics of my current GTR and the old one that was totaled at the track due to a Viper who thought he could brake as well as I could.
@linn1000 I know dozens of people that "use tracks". If you did as well, you'd know that many people like myself who buy the GT-R or a Porsche GT2 or GT3 buy them for the track. You'd also know that the aftermarket brakes stop better, last longer, and cost much less. Think before you write, or just don't reply when you have no idea what you're talking about.
@linn1000 Yeah because people who go to tracks use OEM parts..You can do complete brake changes for under $2500 for extremely high performance brakes.
@liftedview : it would be a good thing, but in this cas, the Car woul cost 250000€ because, with choices they made for the transmission, it is quite impossible to lower the weight!
The 2011 GTR made 7:38 on the Nordschleife. The new GT3RS 7:33. And of course: The GT3 is made for every day use and the racetrack. The GTR can do 3 or 4 rounds on the Nordschleife and you have to stop. Brakes are finished, the oiltemperature of the gearbox is to high...the GTR is a fast GT, but really not made for the racetrack.
@993turbo Wow. I don't know where to start. 7:38 for a 2011?? The 2009 did 7:38. The R35-CBA has done 7:26.7. The new R35-DBA has done 7:24.22 in the wet. You write as if you have some experience with these cars? Not made for the racetrack? Is that why I go to fastlaps dot com and don't see the GT3RS.2 beating the GTR? I love both (and other) cars depsite owning a GTR. I find it amusing when people pick "sides". U should THANK Nissan- they improved Porsche (997.2 PDK Turbo/S/GT3/RS/GT2/RS).
@vtknight777 At the end of October 2009 i was at the Nordschleife for 2 days with the GT-R and 5 other GT-R's. The car is fabulous for 3 or 4 rounds, after that it's finished. A GT3 you can drive 20, 30, 100 rounds and just change tires and stop for gas. Look at the GT3 RS of Patrick Simon. He drove from home with it to the Nordschleife, made these 24h of Nordschleife, finished i think about 13th or something and went back home with it. A Street-Car! Do that with a GT-R...
@993turbo Well at least your not exaggerating (100 laps?). Your premise is centred on the fact that the GTR is not as good as the GT3 because it cannot do as many laps? On a road course you are timed on one lap. The fact that the car can out perform any Porsche outside of the almost 300K GT2RS is secondary? The good news for me is that I can use the extra 200K to buy a great many sets of wheels, brakes, transmission&engine cooling, gas, awhp, awtq, dinners and movies after I keep winning races.
@vtknight777 If you read carefully what i wrote then you see that i'm saying just, that the GT-R is not made for the racetrack. That's it. It is really a fantastic car for every day use and as a GT for the Autobahn, and it's still very nice to drive on the racetrack for a few rounds. But really not for more than 5 rounds on the Nordschleife. There is no race-class (except maybe in Japan) where the GT-R is succesful. I'm not talking about the price. The GT3 is about 50'000 more for me here...
@993turbo I have read your comments very carefully. I just don't understand the lap durability issue you seem to feel so strongly about. If I pit my GTR vs any Porsche minus the GT2RS, it (especially a 2012 GTR), has a very good chance of beating it -in a race, on almost any track. If you are asking if it can do as many laps - maybe it cannot - but in what situation would it need to? The porsche is a great car- just not worth the difference in price in my humble opinion.That 50K diff is usable.
@vtknight777 Have you ever tried a GT3 on a racecourse? There are two facts about it: the feeling of stability and quality of the material of both cars, the constancy of fast laps and the weight...and the other thing is the facts about the driven times. You will probably always be faster in the GT-R in the first few rounds, but then the GT3 will come back. I really like to drive the GT-R very much. The GT-R is a cheap and very good car with great skills, but a fragile hardware...
@vtknight777 fragile hardware like the fragile gearbox, fragile brakes because of the heavy weight. The GT3 is a fantastic car with great skills, very strong hardware, very strong brakes, unbeatable reliability and an amazing sound...at the end it's also just a thing how you can identify yourself with a car. More with the GT-R or more with the GT3.
@993turbo The "fragile gearbox" is from the first year 2009. It affected less than 1% of the cars. It has been fixed. The new 2012 even has laucnh control at 4000 rpms, with VDC-R under warranty. The GTR has beaten the GT3 in comparos everytime. I really like the GT3 too - but I do not see this "beauty". It has great skills - I think the best prosche made - but it still isn't as good as the GTR. The sound? You have me there - but an exhaust goes a long way. I definitely identify with the GTR.
@vtknight777 : I don't understand your post, I practice track quite often, here in France, approx 1/2 per months and it takes about 2 or 3 hours each times, so you need a car that can take it, lap after lap, and which kind of acr do you see in this event: Lotus, Caterham, Donkervoort, Hondas, Sub, Mitsu, a few BMWs, but I saw only one GTR which has burn its tyres and brakes in a 5 laps session, maybe the track doesn't suit but It's a shame!
@Dacid Why? So the Porsche can be beaten again? Do you like losing? I know your profile - 22 year old - it is unfortunate that you are unable to like more than one type of car (like myself). Its all reading and playing PS3 with you and no real experience. You haven't driven any of the cars in this video. BOTH cars are great and you need the almost 300K GT2RS to actually beat the 2012 GT-R on NBR. Thank Nissan for beating Porsche so they had to improve their cars (PDK, PDKS, GT3RS, GT2RS). Peace.
@vtknight777 then tell me why Nissan has to resort to stupid advertisement techniques, or explain us why nobody buys a GT-R instead of a ferrari or any other car that costs more, That ppl is rich, but you can't assume that all of them are stupid because they didn't buy the Nissan which is such an AWESOME car.
or explain me why no team uses them in competitions in europe. wanna bet that after 2 laps of the ring the GT-R will explode while my Fiat Punto keeps running? Now Get lost pussy
@Dataacid Your post makes zero sense. Nissan sells almost 6000 cars a year - comparing that to a niche car maker like Ferrari simply shows your lack of understanding. The "advertising techniques" comment doesn't make sense. No team uses the GT-R? Riiight. I'm guessing what you meant to say was that in your PS3 GT5 game, that no other teams are using it on the European circuit and that your Fiat Punto is doing great on all the tracks you unlocked. Its past your bedtime - you look stupid. Peace.
@vtknight777 yes 5999 MICRA and 1 GT-R. oh and saying that something simply doesn't make sense just makes me think that either you are too stupid to think about the words to explain it or you just don't have a clue.
I don't own a PS3 and my Fiat Punto joke was just a . . . JOKE!
now go see who the reall winners are on 24h races or everything else.
You look stupid, because i gave you facts and you just replied with nothing, because you have nothing. don't fight a war you can't win. /kiss
@Datacid Well at least your amusing. So what is your position anyway? The GT-R is a terrible car? Its almost funny how haters like yourself pick arguments you know you cannot win. It is one of the most highly and positively reviewed cars in the world. That is why - whatever you say is just a . . . JOKE! Now that I know you don't own a PS3 it simply means you have no experience (besides the internet) with cars at all - both real (which we know you don't) or imaginary. Try the car before you hate.
@vtknight777 The GT-R is good for short time, and this is based on my internet readings, many people says it doesn't last much, and that is costs a lot to maintain.
What i am pissed about is that people like you is stupid enough to believe that they really are selling you a supercar for a cheap price.
One thing that has more value than any other is QUALITY. and the GT-R doesn't seem to be so well engineered. and yes, the GT-r is a terrible car for ppl who played too much NFS like you.
Your irrational hate for the GT-R is bizarre. Many people on the internet? Instead of hating so much- try getting in actual cars and find out for yourself. it is a supercar for a cheap price - as so many magazines and reviewers have already confirmed. It is the 9th fastest car at the NBR. The transmission issue that happened to less than 1% of the 2009 cars has been fixed - you can now launch the 2012 under warranty (with VDC-R on). I do drive a 2010 GT-R - since you asked - and it isn't on NFS.
@Dataacid (Sigh) You see? That I understand - the Porsche Turbo was my favourite car up until 2007 - and it (and the GT3 RS) still remains in my favourite list. I have driven many Porsches - and they do not disappoint (although the turbo spool is much different from my car). I have driven my car (for over 20 mins by the way;) and it has its own characteristics. Good luck, keep studying and hopefully your next car with be the upcoming Porsche 998 Turbo or GT3...Peace.
Well, on one hand, a RWD car with a N/A 3.6L 415hp (here, this is not the last version) a manual gearbox and clutch and no electronic helps, on the other hand, an AWD with a double turbo 3.8L 485HP (in fact 520hp if we believe independant dyno testing), a double clutch gearbox and lot's of electronic gizmos and it wins by
20meters........wow!!!! amazing......what a joke!!!! do at least 20 or 30 laps, as in real life when you go on track, and see what happens!
@uhihyigtuuoj : Nope, you'll only see the "Laws of physics" applies: GTR's brakes fading away, idem or the tyres and its lap times becoming worst and worst.....but, on the other hand, the GT3 will make the same ones from lap to lap......
The GTR is only a big whale! efficient, yes BUT ONLY FOR 10mn!!!!! and this is not enough when you practise track!!!!!
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i dont get it is this an advertisement for nissan? Yer gtr is so good bla bla bla. I dont understand porsche have theeee best brakes in the world. This is a stupid video
Good on ya mate, obvisiously havnt got the first clue to what makes a car go so fast around a track. You need good brakes to keep the car stable into corners aswell as allowing you to brake later and overtake easier.
Your a douche, what the f**k has Micra got to do with anything, The Skyline is a pedigree sports car, world recognized and you use the Nissan Micra to some up it up, its like saying a Lamborghini is crap because they use to make tractors.
.. the simple fact that more of the performance in the nissan is accessible to the driver might be the reason it's faster.. the porsche has all sorts of performance, but if you overdo it, it completely scrubs you as you regain control, whereas the nissan gives drivers much more confidence at its limits
Hmm i dont know. You just need to be a better driver in the porsche. The time nissan put down in the nurburghing is a bullshit time. I dont believe it. I just cant see how the nissan is any quicker then a porsche. Top gear test track the nissan is way back on the board from the porscher. I dont know man, the new turbo is phenominal machine. Mind you i drive a porsche and have loved them for quite awhile now and will buy again so maybe im biased.
@97eclipseGST16g ZR1 spanks the GTR bud, good thing for the second generation of GTRs the transmission imminent self-destruct was removed (hopefully). Awesome car that voids your warranty if you press the launch button (1st gen R35) and then break your transmission you pay out of pocket. Yeah! Way to go Nissan!
ummm, common sense will guide you straight to the GTR. porsche is losing its reputation. Hence the "boxter and cayman" models which are a direct reflection of their loss of competitive edge.
They should have used the same driver testing both cars doing time attacks. The driver in the G35 had some really messy lines in the clip you can even see him get confused and almost go off the track. Also the porche has a better center of gravity hence it handles this turn intensive track much better than the G35. All in all it was fun to watch, but not really saying much for a "VS" study.
what are you talking about? he is not confused he was supposed to go off the track there... it tests the cars brakes and maneuverability . Get your facts straight too, its a Nissan GTR not a infinity g35, even though infinity is nissan
i have a gtr r32 right it is so fuckin fast with the stock twin turbo just tacking off feels like the shazzyz twisting any way i raced a holden clubsport like a newer modle and keept up i hade to tack off my foot of the eccelerator because i was bout to hit the holden in the ass what a shame i just cant belive it nissan skyline gtr r32 beating a clubby dont get me wrong i like holdens and nissans but fuck the nissan i got is fuckin fast
at the end of the day the nissan beats the porche $150, 000 vs $300, 000... no matter the amount of money i had to spend id save my bucks and buy the gtr.
i truely do love porche, but since the gtr came out i could justify buying one
If you had a budget then the extra $150k would be handy. Otherwise it's a matter of what YOU want...not just settle for another car because it is cheaper. I like both cars actually. Remember the Porsche drives differently than the Skyline as it as a lighter front end. The Skyline also depending how you'd drive uses more gas. From a race point of view you'd want to maximize all aspects of the car especially fuel economy.
when in the seat and gripping the wheel of a more grass roots analog auto. a driver that get comfortable with the system the gtr offers sits in say a gt3 or a corvette....hell even a well tuned ae86 corolla ..will be in for a rued awakening. i do respect the lack of impute needed by a driver to achieve its maximum potential for any driver to have fun. but put a normal guy in a gtr and a grass roots driver in a corolla and the corolla will win hands down.
the gtr is truly an automobile master piece on the since that it enables even the weekend racer to fell like a pro. computer controlled breaking system along with throttle pitch control along with the center diff power distribution system would allow an armature to have the since of skill in being a driver along with other similar concepts like the evo, and i respect that . but any one that is used to the spoiling attributes of a computer controlled driving system is in for a surprise
You are correct nmac121 both cars can be appreciated, they are really amazing. In my way of thinking Nissan can make a Manual transmission version of the GT-R, its like making the technological package and the standard package. If they do that it would be really amazing and they could get more interested clients.
nmac121 is a man with a wise head.....ojcar21 are u totally clueless or just a kid.....gt3 is an overpriced car compared to a masterpiecs like the gtr....gtr is heavy but handles much better and is a modern masterpiece and for 56k{sterling} its a bargain...i have one and let me tell u drivin it is a rush coz although it has so much tech , it doesnt drive itself mate u have to drive it to its limit and when u do u just smile and think.....lambos,ferraris,porches and vettes........COME GET SOME
YES!!! Dude you know it man! I love GT-Rs! my favorite is Skyline '05 (I forget witch model) but yes! My top favorite cars are Skyline '05 (still don't remember witch model) and Dodge Viper SRT10. And I love the last part "Labos, Ferraris, Porche, and Vettes...COME GET SOME!"
True auto enthusiasts can appreciate both of these amazing cars. Those who spend their time arguing about which is better are idiots. Both of these cars stem from diff. racing heritages and are purposely designed to drive the way they do. Could nissan have designed a lighter rear wheel drive chassis if they wanted to? yes. Could they have offered a 6 spd manual? yes. But tthe Gt-r was all about pushing the limits of modern technology.Both cars are great in their own right. to each his own.
The GT-R is really fast but it is not a drivers car. The GT-R will bring you from point A to point B faster, but it is not due to the driver but because the car is packed with computers/gimmicks. In the GT3 the driver gets all the fun. T
your talking about a badge, how sad you would feel if you could actually afford either of these cars, driving around a track being past on every lap by a cheaper and better car, you'd want to cry. Thinking about it, all porsche drivers racing around tracks on a track day must feel right knobs being past by GTR's after forkin out 100k and being made to pull to one side to let the Datsuns by, i know which driver would be having more fun thinking about their badge
in that HP per Liter ratio, Corvette should have 740HP, and be under EURO5 emission standards? there is no way that they can do that. that is one of the reasons american cars dont hawe place in Europe. heres info for you:
MultiAir engines ensure an increase in power (up to 10%) and torque (up to 15%), as well as a considerable reduction in consumption levels (up to 10%) and CO2 emissions (up to 10%), of particulates (up to 40%) and NOx (up to 60%)
The r35 is a "clean sheet" design. The engine is a new design. the management is new, the chassis is new, the Gbox is new , the body is new. Almost nothig from the previous models was carried over.
The Gt 3 is the much better car (because horsepower is just one small detail); apart from this the new Gt 3 has got a 3.8l engine and is much faster than the one in that video.
Concerining the price i would say, that the GTR costs twice from the GT 3, but if you want to sell the car one day you can be sure that the GT 3 will be worth for times more. Just a last information for racers: if you need even more power then i´d recommend the Gt3 RS/the Gt3 Cup (S) or the Gt3 RSR ( 400 000€ :) )
Thats nonsense!!! But you can believe everything you find in the internet. (Have you already heard that M.J.`s ghost has remained on earth and lives now at Neverland-Ranch??????)
yes, it may be quicker, but the Porsche is much cheaper to fix. If you void the warranty on the tranny of the gtr by doing launch control too much a new transmission for those is 20K. And there is only that one transmission.
Porsche is expensive, yes it is a cool car and very classy but gtr provides all of that with more power speed and acceleration for less of the price and that's what people want.
rayj778 you seem to have a lot to say about faggots and dildos. did you go to a catholic school? ... put your legs over satan's shoulders, grab on to his horns and let him wear you like a feed bag.
Ray, you are just another e-mad 'have not' who cant stand to see 'haves' drive around in nice cars that they worked hard for. If you have no talent just sell your sorry ass on the street. Until then just youtube cars that you can actually afford like a daewoo or hyundai.
gaywoo or crapdai??? LMFAO, koreans can't make shit for cars; i had a hyundai & it drove like a shopping cart; you dumb ass fag, go drive your rice mobile & lick your boyfriend's balls.
Majority of the time, the R35 is on 100% RWD. If you let me to pick one up from the 2, I would still pick the GT3 LOL! Afterall, it is still a Porsche.
im not being biased here but porche is all name. even though it looks better, more power, more expensive, but it clearly isnt the better car out of the two. And the GTR is so much cheaper, so overall the GTR will rip the GT3 apart.
and the claimed 0-60 dont mean anything ,the gtr has posted 3.3 by independant testers so it is quicker to 60 and my point is for all that extra power and weight loss it doesnt do anything special , secondly the gtr is alot easier to drive which is repoerted by nearly all of the reviewers which makes it the better balanced vehicle
Both are fantastic cars which I will probably never own but hey, good viewing. My fave car to own would probably be a 911 GT3 RS but the Skyline (in my opinion) is the benchmark for how all new cars in the same league should be manufactured. It is a fantastic super-car eater that comfortably seats four people. A real win for Nissan.
who cares what a magazine says? what if the magazine was lying your saying a bunch of bull shit thinking you know everything. you cant judge the cars if you haven't driven the cars
I dont understand why people keep saying "it's still a nissan". What the fuck is that supposed to mean lol? Nissan makes a variety of vehicles, from SUV's to daily drivers with decent mileage. A sentra isn't a GT-R. The GT-R is a completely different beast. What the fuck does the badge have to do with it? Facts are obvious and who cares if it is beat by ZR1 and the supped up Viper? It comes respectably close. It competes with superclass cars, and it is what it is.
oh yea n btw, it's not a big deal if the ZR1 or a viper can take it stock in a straight line... this is a track car(better hadeling and overall performance), oh n amaizing, it costs less than many other exotics and performs better............IT'S CALLED JAPANESE ENGINEREING. lol
what do you mean only in the straights?! a base gt-r can muster 0.93-0.96 g of skidpad lateral acceleration while the acr and zr1 can both top 1.10!! they both have higher corner entry speeds and cornering speeds because they are also track cars!! not to mention its much more fun to listen to their engines :)
1/4 mile is for stolen cars with clubs on the steering wheels, cmon lets see these 2 contend on a rally course, or maybe le-mans.
Odinkudo611 1 month ago
@linn1000 Also, a Carrera s2 is not a performance vehicle. It's a wannabe sports car that Porsche created for the masses. A Mitsubishi Evo or Subaru Sti would hand you your ass on any track in the states.
itsmeek 7 months ago
@linn1000 Yes, I absolutely own a GTR and have owned many performance cars several times. I like the Carrera's but had a Turbo 996 before and don't think I could go back to the N/A world again. I will post pics of my current GTR and the old one that was totaled at the track due to a Viper who thought he could brake as well as I could.
itsmeek 7 months ago
@linn1000 I know dozens of people that "use tracks". If you did as well, you'd know that many people like myself who buy the GT-R or a Porsche GT2 or GT3 buy them for the track. You'd also know that the aftermarket brakes stop better, last longer, and cost much less. Think before you write, or just don't reply when you have no idea what you're talking about.
itsmeek 7 months ago
@linn1000 Yeah because people who go to tracks use OEM parts..You can do complete brake changes for under $2500 for extremely high performance brakes.
itsmeek 7 months ago
not any more kay
oilers818 10 months ago
bullshit choreographed biased race,we all know the porsche mopps the floor with any datsun !
kay19833 10 months ago
Nissan needs to shave off 500 pounds of the GTR then come back to compete with porsche...
liftedview 1 year ago
@liftedview : it would be a good thing, but in this cas, the Car woul cost 250000€ because, with choices they made for the transmission, it is quite impossible to lower the weight!
Kheops63 1 year ago
The 2011 GTR made 7:38 on the Nordschleife. The new GT3RS 7:33. And of course: The GT3 is made for every day use and the racetrack. The GTR can do 3 or 4 rounds on the Nordschleife and you have to stop. Brakes are finished, the oiltemperature of the gearbox is to high...the GTR is a fast GT, but really not made for the racetrack.
993turbo 1 year ago
@993turbo Wow. I don't know where to start. 7:38 for a 2011?? The 2009 did 7:38. The R35-CBA has done 7:26.7. The new R35-DBA has done 7:24.22 in the wet. You write as if you have some experience with these cars? Not made for the racetrack? Is that why I go to fastlaps dot com and don't see the GT3RS.2 beating the GTR? I love both (and other) cars depsite owning a GTR. I find it amusing when people pick "sides". U should THANK Nissan- they improved Porsche (997.2 PDK Turbo/S/GT3/RS/GT2/RS).
vtknight777 1 year ago
@vtknight777 At the end of October 2009 i was at the Nordschleife for 2 days with the GT-R and 5 other GT-R's. The car is fabulous for 3 or 4 rounds, after that it's finished. A GT3 you can drive 20, 30, 100 rounds and just change tires and stop for gas. Look at the GT3 RS of Patrick Simon. He drove from home with it to the Nordschleife, made these 24h of Nordschleife, finished i think about 13th or something and went back home with it. A Street-Car! Do that with a GT-R...
993turbo 1 year ago
@993turbo Well at least your not exaggerating (100 laps?). Your premise is centred on the fact that the GTR is not as good as the GT3 because it cannot do as many laps? On a road course you are timed on one lap. The fact that the car can out perform any Porsche outside of the almost 300K GT2RS is secondary? The good news for me is that I can use the extra 200K to buy a great many sets of wheels, brakes, transmission&engine cooling, gas, awhp, awtq, dinners and movies after I keep winning races.
vtknight777 1 year ago
@vtknight777 If you read carefully what i wrote then you see that i'm saying just, that the GT-R is not made for the racetrack. That's it. It is really a fantastic car for every day use and as a GT for the Autobahn, and it's still very nice to drive on the racetrack for a few rounds. But really not for more than 5 rounds on the Nordschleife. There is no race-class (except maybe in Japan) where the GT-R is succesful. I'm not talking about the price. The GT3 is about 50'000 more for me here...
993turbo 1 year ago
@993turbo I have read your comments very carefully. I just don't understand the lap durability issue you seem to feel so strongly about. If I pit my GTR vs any Porsche minus the GT2RS, it (especially a 2012 GTR), has a very good chance of beating it -in a race, on almost any track. If you are asking if it can do as many laps - maybe it cannot - but in what situation would it need to? The porsche is a great car- just not worth the difference in price in my humble opinion.That 50K diff is usable.
vtknight777 1 year ago
@vtknight777 Have you ever tried a GT3 on a racecourse? There are two facts about it: the feeling of stability and quality of the material of both cars, the constancy of fast laps and the weight...and the other thing is the facts about the driven times. You will probably always be faster in the GT-R in the first few rounds, but then the GT3 will come back. I really like to drive the GT-R very much. The GT-R is a cheap and very good car with great skills, but a fragile hardware...
993turbo 1 year ago
@vtknight777 fragile hardware like the fragile gearbox, fragile brakes because of the heavy weight. The GT3 is a fantastic car with great skills, very strong hardware, very strong brakes, unbeatable reliability and an amazing sound...at the end it's also just a thing how you can identify yourself with a car. More with the GT-R or more with the GT3.
993turbo 1 year ago
@993turbo The "fragile gearbox" is from the first year 2009. It affected less than 1% of the cars. It has been fixed. The new 2012 even has laucnh control at 4000 rpms, with VDC-R under warranty. The GTR has beaten the GT3 in comparos everytime. I really like the GT3 too - but I do not see this "beauty". It has great skills - I think the best prosche made - but it still isn't as good as the GTR. The sound? You have me there - but an exhaust goes a long way. I definitely identify with the GTR.
vtknight777 1 year ago
@vtknight777 : I don't understand your post, I practice track quite often, here in France, approx 1/2 per months and it takes about 2 or 3 hours each times, so you need a car that can take it, lap after lap, and which kind of acr do you see in this event: Lotus, Caterham, Donkervoort, Hondas, Sub, Mitsu, a few BMWs, but I saw only one GTR which has burn its tyres and brakes in a 5 laps session, maybe the track doesn't suit but It's a shame!
Kheops63 1 year ago
@vtknight777 the good news for me is that another moron will buy a GT-R instead of a porsche
Dataacid 1 year ago
@Dacid Why? So the Porsche can be beaten again? Do you like losing? I know your profile - 22 year old - it is unfortunate that you are unable to like more than one type of car (like myself). Its all reading and playing PS3 with you and no real experience. You haven't driven any of the cars in this video. BOTH cars are great and you need the almost 300K GT2RS to actually beat the 2012 GT-R on NBR. Thank Nissan for beating Porsche so they had to improve their cars (PDK, PDKS, GT3RS, GT2RS). Peace.
vtknight777 1 year ago
@vtknight777 then tell me why Nissan has to resort to stupid advertisement techniques, or explain us why nobody buys a GT-R instead of a ferrari or any other car that costs more, That ppl is rich, but you can't assume that all of them are stupid because they didn't buy the Nissan which is such an AWESOME car.
or explain me why no team uses them in competitions in europe. wanna bet that after 2 laps of the ring the GT-R will explode while my Fiat Punto keeps running? Now Get lost pussy
Dataacid 1 year ago
@Dataacid Your post makes zero sense. Nissan sells almost 6000 cars a year - comparing that to a niche car maker like Ferrari simply shows your lack of understanding. The "advertising techniques" comment doesn't make sense. No team uses the GT-R? Riiight. I'm guessing what you meant to say was that in your PS3 GT5 game, that no other teams are using it on the European circuit and that your Fiat Punto is doing great on all the tracks you unlocked. Its past your bedtime - you look stupid. Peace.
vtknight777 1 year ago
@vtknight777 yes 5999 MICRA and 1 GT-R. oh and saying that something simply doesn't make sense just makes me think that either you are too stupid to think about the words to explain it or you just don't have a clue.
I don't own a PS3 and my Fiat Punto joke was just a . . . JOKE!
now go see who the reall winners are on 24h races or everything else.
You look stupid, because i gave you facts and you just replied with nothing, because you have nothing. don't fight a war you can't win. /kiss
Dataacid 1 year ago
@Datacid Well at least your amusing. So what is your position anyway? The GT-R is a terrible car? Its almost funny how haters like yourself pick arguments you know you cannot win. It is one of the most highly and positively reviewed cars in the world. That is why - whatever you say is just a . . . JOKE! Now that I know you don't own a PS3 it simply means you have no experience (besides the internet) with cars at all - both real (which we know you don't) or imaginary. Try the car before you hate.
vtknight777 1 year ago
@vtknight777 The GT-R is good for short time, and this is based on my internet readings, many people says it doesn't last much, and that is costs a lot to maintain.
What i am pissed about is that people like you is stupid enough to believe that they really are selling you a supercar for a cheap price.
One thing that has more value than any other is QUALITY. and the GT-R doesn't seem to be so well engineered. and yes, the GT-r is a terrible car for ppl who played too much NFS like you.
Dataacid 1 year ago
Your irrational hate for the GT-R is bizarre. Many people on the internet? Instead of hating so much- try getting in actual cars and find out for yourself. it is a supercar for a cheap price - as so many magazines and reviewers have already confirmed. It is the 9th fastest car at the NBR. The transmission issue that happened to less than 1% of the 2009 cars has been fixed - you can now launch the 2012 under warranty (with VDC-R on). I do drive a 2010 GT-R - since you asked - and it isn't on NFS.
vtknight777 1 year ago
@vtknight777 do try to drive it for more than 20 mins then at high speed, and tell me how it goes.
btw i have to apology for my bad behaviour, sometimes i just get pissed for stupid reasons
Dataacid 1 year ago
@vtknight777 and got in love with porsche since i was 9 the first time i saw it, studying hard to buy one Oo
Dataacid 1 year ago
@Dataacid (Sigh) You see? That I understand - the Porsche Turbo was my favourite car up until 2007 - and it (and the GT3 RS) still remains in my favourite list. I have driven many Porsches - and they do not disappoint (although the turbo spool is much different from my car). I have driven my car (for over 20 mins by the way;) and it has its own characteristics. Good luck, keep studying and hopefully your next car with be the upcoming Porsche 998 Turbo or GT3...Peace.
vtknight777 1 year ago
this nissan in a stock version can beat large amount of tuned cars...
Fabiano154789 1 year ago
Well, on one hand, a RWD car with a N/A 3.6L 415hp (here, this is not the last version) a manual gearbox and clutch and no electronic helps, on the other hand, an AWD with a double turbo 3.8L 485HP (in fact 520hp if we believe independant dyno testing), a double clutch gearbox and lot's of electronic gizmos and it wins by
20meters........wow!!!! amazing......what a joke!!!! do at least 20 or 30 laps, as in real life when you go on track, and see what happens!
Kheops63 1 year ago
@Kheops63 see what? the distance between the skyline and the gt3 increase?
uhihyigtuuoj 1 year ago
@uhihyigtuuoj : Nope, you'll only see the "Laws of physics" applies: GTR's brakes fading away, idem or the tyres and its lap times becoming worst and worst.....but, on the other hand, the GT3 will make the same ones from lap to lap......
The GTR is only a big whale! efficient, yes BUT ONLY FOR 10mn!!!!! and this is not enough when you practise track!!!!!
Kheops63 1 year ago
The Gtr3 seems to be much faster in corners.
titsxyxyxyxtits 1 year ago
@titsxyxyxyxtits I see the exact opposite...
rasvial 1 year ago
This video sucks ass. You can't see shit.
lifeisahaze120 2 years ago
xD the video is so funny xDDDD
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TsInferno 2 years ago
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i dont get it is this an advertisement for nissan? Yer gtr is so good bla bla bla. I dont understand porsche have theeee best brakes in the world. This is a stupid video
Nissan = micra
Porsche = Boxster and caymen
Not even in the same league
subzerostorm 2 years ago
@subzerostorm Omg the best brakes that must make it so fast lol
ota95maxima 2 years ago
@ota95maxima
Good on ya mate, obvisiously havnt got the first clue to what makes a car go so fast around a track. You need good brakes to keep the car stable into corners aswell as allowing you to brake later and overtake easier.
subzerostorm 2 years ago
@ota95maxima they do.
willmon8 1 year ago
@subzerostorm
Your a douche, what the f**k has Micra got to do with anything, The Skyline is a pedigree sports car, world recognized and you use the Nissan Micra to some up it up, its like saying a Lamborghini is crap because they use to make tractors.
abshassan 1 year ago
@subzerostorm
porsche = spinoff
nissan = stable
.. the simple fact that more of the performance in the nissan is accessible to the driver might be the reason it's faster.. the porsche has all sorts of performance, but if you overdo it, it completely scrubs you as you regain control, whereas the nissan gives drivers much more confidence at its limits
rasvial 1 year ago
@rasvial
Hmm i dont know. You just need to be a better driver in the porsche. The time nissan put down in the nurburghing is a bullshit time. I dont believe it. I just cant see how the nissan is any quicker then a porsche. Top gear test track the nissan is way back on the board from the porscher. I dont know man, the new turbo is phenominal machine. Mind you i drive a porsche and have loved them for quite awhile now and will buy again so maybe im biased.
subzerostorm 1 year ago
@subzerostorm think you might need to go and look at the top gear lap times again
dfor74 1 year ago
i want an R34 with an RB30DETT :) that would be sick....or better yet the same motor in a 300zx!
itzjonah 2 years ago
2 of my most wanted cars.....i'd rather the (GT3-RS) for the track,not the GT3...
TAY08R 2 years ago
GTR has semi-slicks tires !
abonchose1 2 years ago
So biased towards GT-R
DaKoolGuyDKG 2 years ago
gt3 is faster
Renan997turbo 2 years ago
NISSAN GTR AMERICAN MUSCLE KILLER
97eclipseGST16g 2 years ago 13
@97eclipseGST16g ZR1 spanks the GTR bud, good thing for the second generation of GTRs the transmission imminent self-destruct was removed (hopefully). Awesome car that voids your warranty if you press the launch button (1st gen R35) and then break your transmission you pay out of pocket. Yeah! Way to go Nissan!
thetravdawg 1 year ago
@97eclipseGST16g u guys stupid the GTR is japenese NOT AMERICAN!
skinnie4life 1 year ago
its actually a japan's car
roadlukedog 1 year ago
@97eclipseGST16g
I agree, although, no match for the ZR1, sadly
619duksta619 1 year ago
ummm, common sense will guide you straight to the GTR. porsche is losing its reputation. Hence the "boxter and cayman" models which are a direct reflection of their loss of competitive edge.
popeyevalls 2 years ago
@popeyevalls Ha! Says who?
xcruzrr6 2 years ago
They should have used the same driver testing both cars doing time attacks. The driver in the G35 had some really messy lines in the clip you can even see him get confused and almost go off the track. Also the porche has a better center of gravity hence it handles this turn intensive track much better than the G35. All in all it was fun to watch, but not really saying much for a "VS" study.
kalenalu 2 years ago
They wont racing the G35 . They were racing the R35 GTR .
muhammed2012 2 years ago
what are you talking about? he is not confused he was supposed to go off the track there... it tests the cars brakes and maneuverability . Get your facts straight too, its a Nissan GTR not a infinity g35, even though infinity is nissan
xm8563 2 years ago 3
why didnt they test the GTR against the RS GT3 instead? wouldve been more of a challenge...
rofLopolous 2 years ago
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Get a ferrari gtr is awsome but i own a ferrari and i have drivin a gtr ferrari 430 is better
DCG25531 2 years ago
Yeah, we believe you.
Alen1124 2 years ago
i have a gtr r32 right it is so fuckin fast with the stock twin turbo just tacking off feels like the shazzyz twisting any way i raced a holden clubsport like a newer modle and keept up i hade to tack off my foot of the eccelerator because i was bout to hit the holden in the ass what a shame i just cant belive it nissan skyline gtr r32 beating a clubby dont get me wrong i like holdens and nissans but fuck the nissan i got is fuckin fast
V8motorhead69 2 years ago
where did you get the car ?
ARMONI555 2 years ago
i'll have the GT-R and use it everyday
booragat 2 years ago
At the end of the day,.. one a Nissan,.. and ones a Porsche,.. I"ll have the Porsche please,...
daramc01 2 years ago
at the end of the day the nissan beats the porche $150, 000 vs $300, 000... no matter the amount of money i had to spend id save my bucks and buy the gtr.
i truely do love porche, but since the gtr came out i could justify buying one
joakerowns 2 years ago 5
ur right!
najibl330 2 years ago
what are you smoking? the GT-R premium with all the goodies is only $87,700
provehito44 2 years ago
If you had a budget then the extra $150k would be handy. Otherwise it's a matter of what YOU want...not just settle for another car because it is cheaper. I like both cars actually. Remember the Porsche drives differently than the Skyline as it as a lighter front end. The Skyline also depending how you'd drive uses more gas. From a race point of view you'd want to maximize all aspects of the car especially fuel economy.
CommanderB9488 2 years ago
when in the seat and gripping the wheel of a more grass roots analog auto. a driver that get comfortable with the system the gtr offers sits in say a gt3 or a corvette....hell even a well tuned ae86 corolla ..will be in for a rued awakening. i do respect the lack of impute needed by a driver to achieve its maximum potential for any driver to have fun. but put a normal guy in a gtr and a grass roots driver in a corolla and the corolla will win hands down.
hachi6 2 years ago
the gtr is truly an automobile master piece on the since that it enables even the weekend racer to fell like a pro. computer controlled breaking system along with throttle pitch control along with the center diff power distribution system would allow an armature to have the since of skill in being a driver along with other similar concepts like the evo, and i respect that . but any one that is used to the spoiling attributes of a computer controlled driving system is in for a surprise
hachi6 2 years ago
You are correct nmac121 both cars can be appreciated, they are really amazing. In my way of thinking Nissan can make a Manual transmission version of the GT-R, its like making the technological package and the standard package. If they do that it would be really amazing and they could get more interested clients.
condejavy 2 years ago
nmac121 is a man with a wise head.....ojcar21 are u totally clueless or just a kid.....gt3 is an overpriced car compared to a masterpiecs like the gtr....gtr is heavy but handles much better and is a modern masterpiece and for 56k{sterling} its a bargain...i have one and let me tell u drivin it is a rush coz although it has so much tech , it doesnt drive itself mate u have to drive it to its limit and when u do u just smile and think.....lambos,ferraris,porches and vettes........COME GET SOME
MrLendog 2 years ago
YES!!! Dude you know it man! I love GT-Rs! my favorite is Skyline '05 (I forget witch model) but yes! My top favorite cars are Skyline '05 (still don't remember witch model) and Dodge Viper SRT10. And I love the last part "Labos, Ferraris, Porche, and Vettes...COME GET SOME!"
Makeeyo 2 years ago
True auto enthusiasts can appreciate both of these amazing cars. Those who spend their time arguing about which is better are idiots. Both of these cars stem from diff. racing heritages and are purposely designed to drive the way they do. Could nissan have designed a lighter rear wheel drive chassis if they wanted to? yes. Could they have offered a 6 spd manual? yes. But tthe Gt-r was all about pushing the limits of modern technology.Both cars are great in their own right. to each his own.
nmac121 2 years ago 3
teeroynz
LoL, your one of the only people who think that. Most cars are getting ugly, regardless of country. Have you seen the new mazda 3's...
and the easier to drive thing is a disadvantage to most people who like to drive cars.
SuperleggeraVW 2 years ago
Haters:
Awesome GT-R rocks!!!
RickStylus 2 years ago 3
the GT3 is the drivers cars, but the GTR is the car that makes anyone look like a good driver.
gavinsloma 2 years ago
Poor GTR paired with that suck driver.
If can't accept the technology,better use bicycle dude
sky3009 2 years ago 2
PORSCHE GT3 = a real drivers car
NISSAN GTR = pointless, nerdy, twin-turbo, electronics-laden technological curiosity
The GT-R is really fast but it is not a drivers car. The GT-R will bring you from point A to point B faster, but it is not due to the driver but because the car is packed with computers/gimmicks. In the GT3 the driver gets all the fun. T
OJCAR21 2 years ago
so what you are saying is that the gtr is a MODERN car and that ugly porsche is living in the past.. way to scream GTR FTW!
EL173N3SS 2 years ago 3
have you ever seen the porshe carrera gt?
bobmclightning 2 years ago
who the fuck cares ? GTR IS BETTER and cheaper in price !
dhcorporation 2 years ago 5
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Well, anyway I would have Porsche over Datsun every day. There is no substitute.
racerxcx 2 years ago
your talking about a badge, how sad you would feel if you could actually afford either of these cars, driving around a track being past on every lap by a cheaper and better car, you'd want to cry. Thinking about it, all porsche drivers racing around tracks on a track day must feel right knobs being past by GTR's after forkin out 100k and being made to pull to one side to let the Datsuns by, i know which driver would be having more fun thinking about their badge
TetraRage 2 years ago
GTR powerrr
hustaly 2 years ago
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2 of the UGLIEST cars in the WORLD. No styling whatsoever. Jokes.
meadowz06 2 years ago
kutas pizda huj !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kamaro100 2 years ago
911 got OWNED!!!! GTR = Godzilla
nabsnabs 2 years ago
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i still think the porsche is better ..even in looks ..looks better too ..its just the gtr has little more hp than porsche
blera1987ks 2 years ago
The Nissan GT-R actually lapped the Nurburgring faster than the Porsche 911 turbo.. and Nissan GT-R is half its price!
hotsoupmess 2 years ago 3
Now throw the GTR against the GT2. Game over.
mine1username 2 years ago
Yeah and its $192,000....
icecubefosho 2 years ago 2
"Now throw the GTR against the GT2. Game over." - mine1username
7:32.02Porsche 911 GT2 - Race Compound tires used.
7:26.70Nissan GT-R - Dunlop runflat tires (Stock)
Game over is right, for the GT2 which also costs more than double the GTR.
PS- Those are Nurburgring lap times.
Mictoad 2 years ago 15
Wong info on both tires, its the other way around at that GTR was not stock!!!
hosrom 2 years ago
@Mictoad Around the Top Gear track the GT2 is faster than the GTR
PRspecv2008 2 years ago 2
Yeah and the GT2 is 290kg lighter £70K more and 50bhp more and your point is?
sw1000xg 2 years ago
@Mictoad 7:18
Dataacid 1 year ago
in that HP per Liter ratio, Corvette should have 740HP, and be under EURO5 emission standards? there is no way that they can do that. that is one of the reasons american cars dont hawe place in Europe. heres info for you:
MultiAir engines ensure an increase in power (up to 10%) and torque (up to 15%), as well as a considerable reduction in consumption levels (up to 10%) and CO2 emissions (up to 10%), of particulates (up to 40%) and NOx (up to 60%)
acasmc 2 years ago
thats because there is nothing to know about!
638HP out of supercharged 6.2L engine??? what is so special about that?
art is new Alfa Romeo Mito TBA!
1.4L engine turbocharged to 167HP! its enough practical for everyday use, and have satisfying engine life for mass production!
acasmc 2 years ago
what clean sheet by nissan?
have you heard od Skylines R32 - R33 - R34???
why do you write about thing you know nothing about???
everyones wants to be smart, go play chess instead!
acasmc 2 years ago
The r35 is a "clean sheet" design. The engine is a new design. the management is new, the chassis is new, the Gbox is new , the body is new. Almost nothig from the previous models was carried over.
blyndrotor 2 years ago
Amazing job by Nissan....a clean sheet design on the first try beats a design that has been tweaked for years and years!
philglassfan 2 years ago
The Gt 3 is the much better car (because horsepower is just one small detail); apart from this the new Gt 3 has got a 3.8l engine and is much faster than the one in that video.
Concerining the price i would say, that the GTR costs twice from the GT 3, but if you want to sell the car one day you can be sure that the GT 3 will be worth for times more. Just a last information for racers: if you need even more power then i´d recommend the Gt3 RS/the Gt3 Cup (S) or the Gt3 RSR ( 400 000€ :) )
kjhgfu 2 years ago
Were you not listening to the guy in the video? The GT-R outperformed the GT3 in almost every category.
xtelevisionset 2 years ago
Thats nonsense!!! But you can believe everything you find in the internet. (Have you already heard that M.J.`s ghost has remained on earth and lives now at Neverland-Ranch??????)
kjhgfu 2 years ago
yes, it may be quicker, but the Porsche is much cheaper to fix. If you void the warranty on the tranny of the gtr by doing launch control too much a new transmission for those is 20K. And there is only that one transmission.
Inuyashatg98 2 years ago
So that makes it a better vehicle? Even with a second transmission, the GT-R is still cheaper.
xtelevisionset 2 years ago
even though i love zr1 i have to admit that i love gtrs!
audir1thenewone 2 years ago 3
Porsche is expensive, yes it is a cool car and very classy but gtr provides all of that with more power speed and acceleration for less of the price and that's what people want.
jik24 2 years ago
4 door GTR soon to come!
CoolBigWillieStyles 2 years ago
Nice Video ☆☆☆☆☆Great !!!!!
kiaketa 2 years ago
rayj778 you seem to have a lot to say about faggots and dildos. did you go to a catholic school? ... put your legs over satan's shoulders, grab on to his horns and let him wear you like a feed bag.
peverest 2 years ago 5
skyline is the best period, full-stop end of story.
jik24 2 years ago
its not a skyline... its only GT-R
TimidALFONS0 2 years ago
well it dos not mater gts, gtr, v spec r33 34 35 thy r all good, its good to have one and all ways will be a great car to have .
jik24 2 years ago
i'd prefer the R34 out of all of them.
TimidALFONS0 2 years ago 2
Mate trust me i have a gtr r34 but the r35 is just something else..
mellias88 2 years ago
yaeh, the r34 is my dreamcar...
ToxicCox 2 years ago
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No, Porsche 917 is the best. Get your facts straight.
k6k6k6Darkie 2 years ago
you have to laugh at these youtube car experts..."i drove an older boxster (gay) once"...rays friend saw tits once...fuck wit
armatek 2 years ago
the only thing you drove was a black dildo armatek, quit your yappin. & those tits i saw were your mom's; you inbred faggot.
rayj778 2 years ago
+1.
shineclot 2 years ago 2
id rather have the gtr and blow the other $200,000 on coke and sluts for 6 months. Porsche you are overpriced euro trash now.
peverest 2 years ago
you're not going to blow shit away, go looks at some vids of gtr vs porsche gt2.
rayj778 2 years ago
keep dreamin of your porsche. i just bought the gtr... some of us are relevant to this discussion some not.
peverest 2 years ago
LMFAO, what a faggot you must be. Go give your boyfriend a blow job, & put down your PS3 controller u dildo.
rayj778 2 years ago
Ray, you are just another e-mad 'have not' who cant stand to see 'haves' drive around in nice cars that they worked hard for. If you have no talent just sell your sorry ass on the street. Until then just youtube cars that you can actually afford like a daewoo or hyundai.
peverest 2 years ago 4
gaywoo or crapdai??? LMFAO, koreans can't make shit for cars; i had a hyundai & it drove like a shopping cart; you dumb ass fag, go drive your rice mobile & lick your boyfriend's balls.
rayj778 2 years ago
u should keep your obsession with boyfriends and dildos to yourself...it's quite clear you are a raging homosexual
armatek 2 years ago
I agree with you, although the new Hyundai Genesis is supposed to be pretty badass...
ashermerkabah 2 years ago
I would rather have the GT3, but there is no doubt that the GTR is astonishing. Apart from having little driver involvement it's faultless.
jenk85 2 years ago
i only drove one porsche, & it was an older boxster & even that car is AMAZING!!!!!!
rayj778 2 years ago
trye
xfatcampx 2 years ago
porsche is much more fun to drive!!!! GT-R AWD helps it a lot, but is boring.
rayj778 2 years ago
Majority of the time, the R35 is on 100% RWD. If you let me to pick one up from the 2, I would still pick the GT3 LOL! Afterall, it is still a Porsche.
However..... can I keep them all?
navivan999 2 years ago
damn the GTR R35 stings like a bee! i would get that car if im an adult rite now!
syafiq202 2 years ago
so you have 114,000$
readyaimscream 2 years ago
obviously i don't hv. but i wish i could own 1 when i grow up!
syafiq202 2 years ago
im not being biased here but porche is all name. even though it looks better, more power, more expensive, but it clearly isnt the better car out of the two. And the GTR is so much cheaper, so overall the GTR will rip the GT3 apart.
brenopaul 2 years ago
hahaahha
traiettorie molto diverse e inserimenti in curva molto più brusche fatte con la gt3 che spesso era in derapata..
ennesimo video pubblicitario
nascube 2 years ago
u cant compare the gtr with the porsche porsche gt3 is way lookin better any way from gtr ,,gtr is ugly ...got to look the look of the car tooo
blera1987ks 2 years ago
dude wtf are u talking?
kelisa7559 2 years ago
Skylines are the BEST!!!!!!
Kratos00495 2 years ago
and the claimed 0-60 dont mean anything ,the gtr has posted 3.3 by independant testers so it is quicker to 60 and my point is for all that extra power and weight loss it doesnt do anything special , secondly the gtr is alot easier to drive which is repoerted by nearly all of the reviewers which makes it the better balanced vehicle
gengiz 2 years ago 2
apparently its considered 3.2 seconds the updated gtr appaz
theboxmike 2 years ago
Both are fantastic cars which I will probably never own but hey, good viewing. My fave car to own would probably be a 911 GT3 RS but the Skyline (in my opinion) is the benchmark for how all new cars in the same league should be manufactured. It is a fantastic super-car eater that comfortably seats four people. A real win for Nissan.
jedik86 2 years ago 3
the GTR was always called godzila for a reason
shechshire 2 years ago 2
who cares what a magazine says? what if the magazine was lying your saying a bunch of bull shit thinking you know everything. you cant judge the cars if you haven't driven the cars
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santibobo2 3 years ago
both great car but in the end if you like it then even driving a old shit box still a treasure to you.
Both are the champion car!
trung89 3 years ago
Mini Cooper owns this shit.
cheapmovies9P 3 years ago
fuck mini cooper they suck horse dick
ajra94 2 years ago 2
Please explain to me how a car can suck a horse penis
cheapmovies9P 2 years ago
Obviously a car can't suck a dick it was just my opinoin on the piece of shit cooper.
ajra94 2 years ago
I dont understand why people keep saying "it's still a nissan". What the fuck is that supposed to mean lol? Nissan makes a variety of vehicles, from SUV's to daily drivers with decent mileage. A sentra isn't a GT-R. The GT-R is a completely different beast. What the fuck does the badge have to do with it? Facts are obvious and who cares if it is beat by ZR1 and the supped up Viper? It comes respectably close. It competes with superclass cars, and it is what it is.
downut310 3 years ago 8
americans realy dont understand the japanese racing presence (those that know nothing about cars). the GTR has allways been japans top track car
shechshire 2 years ago 2
oh yea n btw, it's not a big deal if the ZR1 or a viper can take it stock in a straight line... this is a track car(better hadeling and overall performance), oh n amaizing, it costs less than many other exotics and performs better............IT'S CALLED JAPANESE ENGINEREING. lol
shechshire 2 years ago 2
what do you mean only in the straights?! a base gt-r can muster 0.93-0.96 g of skidpad lateral acceleration while the acr and zr1 can both top 1.10!! they both have higher corner entry speeds and cornering speeds because they are also track cars!! not to mention its much more fun to listen to their engines :)
venomviper32 2 years ago
right, totally agree. but of corse, thats only stock.
shechshire 2 years ago
o yea and btw, I think the R34 is still better than the R35
shechshire 2 years ago
i would take the porsche anyday im not saying its faster but i like the looks, quality and handling just my opinion
abomination2118 3 years ago
yea, but skyline heavy, but perform well in drift
jonathankhim 3 years ago
GT-R > 911 in every aspect
XMG3 3 years ago 2
hands down the Porsche got his ass handed to him
ridin20s2007 3 years ago
serious respect for the r35 but in a real world race itsthe porche that would dominate i dont care about no damn review.
BIHVR6GTI 3 years ago