I know this is an old vid but it's the same logical fallacy over and over. Ie it's to complex to be explained therefore god. Thats not evidence thats god of the gaps.
Today class, we are going to learn about creationism as well as biology. Next term we'll tackle chemistry and alchemy. And the last term in the year we'll study physics and magic.
I was taught intelligent design. In religious studies. Its an interesting concept but its pure speculation and does not disprove evolution. However i guess if you're religious you could say an intelligent designer influencing it. But again its all speculation and cant be tested.
@BigjockGnu - your point exactly proves why we should teach creation science as an alternative to evolution. You are ignorant and know nothing about it and blow it off as a religious belief, rather than take a look at the scientific merits of it. If creation science vs evolution are critically weighted, evolution will be put in the trash where it belongs.
Why don't these morons quit dressing priests in labcoats to try & convert children into mindless unquestioning slaves, no matter how much they try to polish up this religious turd, it's still the same bullshit its always been. "Goddidit, end of story" is not an acceptible answer when it comes to the scientific method, it's a get-out clause for admitting "We don't know yet"
Disturbing to see this sort of Creationist rubbish being discussed in the context of the English school system. Hopefully we avoid the mass insanity evident in the US!
@Tapiola2007 It's not really that bad here in the US. Only the most right-wing, low income areas try to teach that. Most people don't take them seriously.
@EPICsliceOFcake Approx. 60% of Americans don't accept that evolution is a fact. More than 80% are religious in some way. More than 40% attend church regularly. Around 60% pray weekly (i.e. speak to an imaginery friend on a regular basis!). Add to that the general prohibition on being openly non-religious/atheist in positions of public office and the depressing influence of religious pandering in American politics, I'd say that is a pretty unhealthy situation.
@MrCherubhair1 i cann't believe it i'm gonna get to learn how to turn a rock into gold!!!!
funny thing is that their is more proof for that then their is of a "god" that proof is called mass conversion in which you modify the atomic mass of the object by breaking and fusing the atoms
this is a theory
it's possible but not possible currently because we don't have that level of technolgy yet
I'd like to add that it's people like MacIntosh that need to be kept away from children not be at the forefront of producing material that lie and mislead our young under the guise of debate.
I was always consoled by the thought that this was only taking place in the U.S. but is now infiltrating into the U.K. I just hope my kids get throught he school system before this spreads. Very disheartening.
We need to put a stop to these religious retards before they ruin this country by turning it into a religious state, These people are no better than the Muslim fundamentalists (Taliban) in some countries that want to run the country by sharia law, it is exactly the same thing. Religious fundamentalism is a bad thing, regardless of what religion it is.
Im not the most intelligent man but when he says about the second law of thermodynamics doesnt that only apply in a closed system? The earth isnt a closed system. i wonder if he knows the rest of the laws...
@deepskanker I am tempted to email professor Macintosh and ask him would he permit the critical teaching of the second law of thermodynamics and indeed evidence against the second law of thermodynamics..... wonder if I would get a reply....
@deepskanker When someone brings up the Second Law of Thermodynamics, ask them to explain the other three; if they can't, then they hold no position in bringing up just one of them to try proving their point
e“If we are going to teach creation science as an alternative to evolution, then we should also teach the stork theory as an alternative to biological reproduction.”
I'm really surprised that the UK would even consider something so ludicrous. Unintelligent Design has nothing to do science.Dawinism is a tested science and certainly is more than a mere therory.I am a naturalized American citizen,but was born a British subject and still hold a UK passport. If one of these ignorant GOP contenders, Perry, Bauchman, Palin, Santorum or any other Teabagger becomes President, I will be returning to the UK for political asylum. Don't follow the US lead on this, OK?.
@dex1391 NO actually thats true. I dare you to find any science that they teach us in school that has not gone through an enormeous amount of per review.
@dex1391 Thanks you for proving your ignorance. Theory has been proven. Suggestion or idea is called hypothesis, go study science. We are talking about SCIENCE here. Gym isnt science (excerise isnt science) and its not presenting you with any facts. Cooking isnt science nor is language classes.
The point is that you want Intelligent design in schools. Intelligent design goes as a SCIENCE subject, therefore needs to be proven and per reviewed.
@gulbirk Boy oh boy, what a potty mouth you are Mr. Dex (or could be Ms Dex if you're from Tex-ass.) Would Jesus approve you telling your guests "cunt" and to "fuck off and die?" I think not And you only allow those you agree with to post. You're sort of having an ignorant conversation with yourself. It's kind of like watching someone masterbate. you master of hypocracy, you. I think I'll stick with my Atheist morality. It is kinder and gentler than you Knights Templer type. Scary as Hell!
intelligent design is a fact we all know that the flying spagetti monster created the universe and us humans when he was drunkits pretty obvious, ps only joking intelligent design=bullshit
Lewis Wolpert got sucked into using the word Darwinism, didn't explain that theories are what science is all about, & let McIntosh seem credible. He should have used the ruling in the Dover case that ID was a religious view & not a scientific theory.
We don't need a trial in this country, we need a campaign to get the UK government to realise that creationists are using loopholes to get religion taught in science classes.
Well my campaign starts here. Contact me, I need help.
What happens when you die? Have you told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain(10 Commandments)? If yes, then you're a liar, thief, and a blasphemer in the sight of God. When you die & be judged by God, you'll be guilty of sin, & go to Hell! But God sent His Son Jesus to shed His blood & die on a cross for your sins, He was buried & rose again from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus's death for your sins, His burial & resurrection)you'll not perish & have eternal life
If you take the bible as a true account how the universe came to be and how man was put on the earth, then you simply MUST believe in a creator or intelligent designer.
What is this dribble ohh teach the controversy why? when it has been scrutinised and proved wrong so many times. You don't teach in geography that the eart is spherical or flat do you? I am so sick of religious turds like Andy Mcintosh trying to pollute science with their religious convictions. When wil the world wake up from religion?
"we are not trying to.. blabla"... yes you are, YES you ARE. If Intelligent Design (which IS creationism repackaged) was in any way scientific, it would have undergone scrutiny by the scientific community and if there WAS reasonable evidence to suggest an intelligent designer, then it WOULD ALREADY be taught in schools. But the pure solid truth is the contrary. There is no evidence. It is just not science, and therefore doesnt belong in science classrooms.
My class watched some of this creationist video, it makes huge intellectual jumps without any evidence. I would be worried about it being shown to lower level classes.
C'mon England put an end to this non sense, maybe we can take a cue from you on it. Our (USA) standing in science in public schools is absolutely pathetic...we are 25th...sad. Our Constitution should leave no question on this subject, but we have to beat them in court, which we have over & over. Our kids ability to learn suffers. I understand religious people's complaint that they think their kids are being taught something they disagree with, but (cont)->>
the argument isn’t that of creationism vs. evolution. It is that creationism is not science. To teach every possible “belief” (which is what we would have to do to be fair) would make teaching science impossible. There would be NO time left to teach real science. It is sad how few people even understand what the word “theory” even means. We have adults who don’t even understand: “Theory” “hypothesis” etc. etc.
So, let us not teach science, let us teach people’s beliefs…UGH.
This is what you get trying to fit religion into science. What scientific hypothesis would say "oh, we cant discuss that" because its not science. ? now kids , have a nice class of pink lemonade and a bowl of noodles for lunch, honor the FSM and IPU and study science with an open mind , just dont be so open that your brain falls out.
Darwinism is nothing but a belief and has never been proven, that is why they do not want any rebuttal of it in class because they know that the Darwin theory is just an unproven theory and cannot hold up to scrutiny
Darwinism has become nothing more than a dogmatic religion for misguided people to hold on to
@DaveSquibbSr Darwinism doesn't exist, you either think evolution is true or you don't, evolution theory has come a long was since Darwin.
Your comment is nothing but assertions, untrue ones at that, are you aware that evolution is the fact and the theory is how we explain it? Of course you aren't because you haven't ever studied it and therefore have no business talking on the matter.
Now invent a time machine and be out of our hair you loon.
@DaveSquibbSr You do realize everything in religious texts that pertains to how the universe came to be and how life formed where written by primitive tribes some 8000 years ago, whose understanding of the universe was none existent apart from tracking the movement of celestial bodies to some precision.
Intelligent design are those old fables repackaged. Whilst religious texts can be used as metaphor rather well, they should leave the mechanics of the universe and its creation to science.
@DaveSquibbSr Hey Dave! Evolution is a Fact! The Theory of Evolution is the culmination of Facts! It is a Stronger Theory with more Facts than that of Gravity! The Theory of Evolution has never been Disproved or Debunked and never will be. Please explain to me what evidence you have that proves Evolution is wrong. Just one piece of factual evidence is all I am looking for. And when you give it to me I promise to split the one million pounds made from the noble prize with you. Honest!
When i was at 6th form we received one of these packs. my biology teacher showed it to people in lessons as a warning for how pseudo-science is dangerous. Even in the GCSE classes the kids were picking this apart as rubbish!
Youtube atheist pressure group at work. You can tell because they're always there with the same arguments about the 'man in the sky' and the 'facts' and 'evidence' and of course the filthy language and insults. Thank you fellow Christians for standing up to them (not).
The Theory of Intelligent Design: There was somebody who designed aspects of life and the universe, and who knows... maybe his name starts with a 'G', or something....
SETI looks for intelligence in the universe using scientific method.
ID looks for intelligence in biology using the same scientific principles.....but as usual athiestic evolutionists want two different sets of rules to apply because they dare not allow the possibility.
we have skulls of apes spreading from 4billion years to today which can link us
and we can match DNA to apes which shows 98% possitive
how can you possibly say that we did not evolve at some point
its like in the canine family way back in the stone age all dogs were wolves the quick ones were used to hunt the slow ones used for warmth thats why some dogs are small (to get down burrows) some are drapped in fur (warmth) some are fast (chasing prey)
DNA isn't evidence of God, the fact DNA mutates and is vulnerable to mutation shows more of a design flaw than a designer. I'm so glad I was never taught creation in school.
They ALWAYS seem to avoid the questions. This was 41/2 years ago, science moves fast, now the evidence is just extremely overwhelming, and cannot be dismissed without some feeling that it's absolutely right. Now, scientists have been able to create their own DNA using computer technology, and insert it into bacteria. The bacteria is fully functional, and it is not allowed to be released into the wild due to possible eco-problems. This is not just a copy, the DNA is BRAND NEW!!!!
Oh god, that creationist ballsack is pathetic. I would prolly shoot myself if I was so stupid as to claim that evolution means things coming together by accident... Then again, I would probably not, I think I'd be supporting this guy if that was the case.
But really, to show such an awesome lack of understanding about the basics of the theory and to demand that it should be questioned is really quite perplexing. Oh, would that this idiocy just wanished...
Intelligent Design is just a rebranding of Creationism. Creationism says the Christian God created everything. Intelligent Design says someone created everything but we all know who that is. *nudge nudge wink wink*
Meh this is bullshit, I was in year/grade 9 at the time this fiasco was going on and i never heard about it till now. It would never be allowed into UK schools. Me and my classmates would have laughed it out of the classroom!!! Its all rubbish and blown up in the media. Was never put into schools in the slightest. Only ever learnt about religion in RE class (religious education)
If any of these loonies attempt to teach this nonsense to my kids, I'll do my level best to have them dismissed from their teaching post. I'd hope any other parent would do the same.
@ilovetheview47 Nope. Sadly, there are plenty of delusional people in the UK as well. Forunately, the problem is small scale - especially when compared to the US. However, until the whole madness related to religion (of whatever faith) is cured through proper education, these lunatics are going to get air time.
@Tapiola2007 Excuse me? We are NOT apes, we did NOT evolve from them either. Evolution is a lie, so is the big bang. WHAT CAUSED THE BIG BANG? SCIENTIFIC ANSWER: "MATTER/ANTI-MATTER AND ENERGY" Where exactly did this energy or matter come from? It obviously couldn't come from nothing, because nothing can come from nothing. For us humans to imagine a beginning without no cause before it is unimaginable because our brains can't deal with a concept like that. Answer: Intelligent Designer.. GOD.
@Z1GGYK3V You've just proved my point: plenty of delusional people spouting religious madness. Yes, we are African apes and we evolved from an ancestor we share with the four other great apes (chimps, bonobos, gorillas, orang-utans). Fossil and genetic evidence bear this out. How amusing, how sad for you to invoke the limitations of the human brain and then posit the ludicrous conclusion that because there are difficult questions god fits the gap. You do your species a huge disservice!
@Tapiola2007 Well nearly, we have the same ancestors as Apes, we are all hominids, but homo sapiens are a different Branch of the evolutionary tree, and that is why there is not an intermediary species alive in this sense. All these religious fools think there is a direct chain like the diagram that shows, and thus they think they should be able to see all the different stages. but this is not Evolution. Yes Africa was (tectonics withstanding) the cradle of life.
@Tapiola2007 Totally agree with you. And in my humble opinion, the Universe is somewhat too comlex a structure to have been constructed by a single being, regardless of power or intellect.
And Life didn't occur by chance but by the invevitability of chemistry, physics and a host of other scientific laws.
@Z1GGYK3V Are you truly serious?. Science may not be able, presently, to answer all such questions of creation, and life, but It certainly doesn't mean that the only other alternative is a designer. Science has never claimed to know everything, but religious people always seem to think they know it must be God. There is Zero evidence (and No the Bible is NOT scientific evidence) for a creator which can be tested scientifically, compared to nearly 100 years of evidence for physics, and science.
@ilovetheview47 The UK is and always will be a place with one of the largest percentage of Atheism, but creationists are always trying to worm their way in.
well you see the aliens came here to hunt and they killed all the large animals.
and one of the aliens got hit in the head with a coconut .and then.
one alien thought hey what if we splice their genes with the human evoloution virius.
and come back latter to collect new specimins to hunt and sell.
well thats what happened....they spliced our dna , so they could make vaccines to get rid of disesis and make new types of drugs to sell and new nano technology to
So it's happening in GB as well. Maybe they're right, maybe there is a designer. Krishna. Oops, I'm sorry I meant Thor. Zeus, Zeus sorry. Actually Seth given some of the viruses out there. No, on second thought it's Allah. Actually, when I think about it it may be the Chocolate Chimp monk.
This proves once again how weak religious faith is, McIntosh can't bring himself to say the word ''God'' when asked ''who'' the designer in ''Intelligent Design'' is.
You know this man is full of shit, because he insists that ID is science and has evidence in support of it.
He insists the science of ID be critiqued by non-scientists in a classroom.
And finally he insists that evidence supporting evolution can be interpreted, with validity, in support of ID - failing to acknowledge his own interpretations of thermodynamics and information theory must also be subject to the same treatment.
Oh look, lets ignore this, discard that, say this is unreliable and POOF! God did it! Not only God, but Jesus Christ! Oh by the way, while we are at it, you better believe like me or you go to HELL! Homework for tonight: 50 hail marys.
After watching american news involving simmilar debates, one must be amazed on how fair UK news are. He realy asked equally hard questions to both sides as a real anchorman should. I know my post isn't that relevant to the subject here, but it as a neutral party from sweden I just have to point out that UK>US.
If you think Paxman's being tough here, you should see him interviewing politicians. He once asked Michael Howard the same question 14 times in a row. As we say in England, 'you know when you've been Paxoed!'
religion holds our tehnological development for solving crucial problems regarding our lives
christians like you , who waste their lives believing in an fairytale , arrogantly saying the other hundreds of religion with the same amount of nonevidence is wrong are a waste of space and resources
He asked a question that many ignorant people would ask in order that Lewis Wolpert could explain that evolution is a fact.
He took on the role of the self righteous ignoramus and asked it in exactly the way these buffoons always do.
He wanted Wolpert to 'slap' this stupid creationist mantra and managed to invoke a passionate response that is more memorable than had Wolpert answered in a matter of fact tonality.
I liv in Brit... I thght you were brit as you wer commentin on a brit program it is an honest mistake, ok everything you say is either childishly stupid or just plain ignorant, the USA did not give us the holy Bible it was created by a jewish cult approx 2000 yrs ago, I'm not blessd by christianity, it inhibits freedoms blocks rational thought and is based on an lie, Christianity has resulted in HIV/AIDs in Africa being more abundent because of their biews on condoms, wud a scientist do that NO!
@saynotodarwin Sir you are the stupidest creature imaginable, face facts, I thought weirdos like you only existed in the USA but clearly I was wrong... eugh makes me shamed to live in this country!!!
every coin has two sides!when looking at science one should always look at the evidence of all 3 sciences simultaneous. most ID scientists, Dr's,Profs,phds don't believe in 6000 years,although theories in physics like quantum physics would make it possible because in the nether regions of the sub atomic world anything and everything is possible,e.g. that the speed of light was indeed infinite after the big bang!evidence shows that the speed of light was faster light years ago! Keep u mind open
@Nimrodyo ID is not a viable critique of Evolution. You cannot investigate a scientific theory with non scientific methods, it would be a flawed comparison. I believe the scientific community is open minded about arguments against accepted theory, but hose arguments MUST provide valid evidence in support. ID cannot, and thus cannot be considered a valid Scientific Argument.
@gffran No its not Religion, by its very meaning and substance is based on Faith, faith and belief in the face of total lack of valid evidence. Truth has no part to play in Religion, if something were proved to be fact it would not require faith that it was true, and thus it would not be 'religion'. Your statement is incorrect. In fact I'm sure there are even religious people who would disagree with you.
It is not the place of the scientific classroom to bring in religious instruction but neither is it the place to propagate the blind belief in atheistic philosophy.
Professor Lewis wolpert is a Vice-President of the British Humanist Association.
He is not speaking from a non-bias scientific standpoint. He is merely pushing his beliefs. He is known for his arrogant dogmatic attitude. As you can see, he can barely keep is calm even on Newsnight!
@TheBibleNinja "blind belief in atheistic philosophy." This statement is so incorrect. There is no "Atheist philosophy". Atheism is simply a lack of belief in any supernatural God, or creator. How can one believe in non belief? and thus be blind to it? Get your head out of your arse and stop trying to propagate the idea of 'religious Atheism', its a contradiction of terms. We are not a seperate group of worshipers, we are the left overs after u count the religious nuts.
you're confusing species with variations and micro with macro evolution. We have NOT observed the evolution of a new species, that, by your reckoning, takes millions of years.
Evolution is a fact because science has concluded that it is he most reasonable and logical explanation for the atheist worldview. If you first rule out God, then evolution is the best and and only theory to explain existence, but God has only been ruled out because of 'logic' in other words, peoples' personal disbelief.
You are a moron. Evolution is a mechanism for the transition from lower beings to more evolved beings (namely, humans). It speaks to nothing of the origin of existence. Fuck you are an idiot.
Are you aware that the scientests for the Human genome project believes that god had something to do with the creation of the earth, and then evolution took over.
Although I disagree with that, BUT his own belief proves that evolution is not only for "godless animals"
Yeah, I agree that evolutionism does not rule out God. If I were to be convinced that evolution occurred, I would accept it as part of the story of creation. My only reasons for doubting evolution are based on science and my perception of logic.
And don't worry, I don't think atheists are godless animals xD
He forgot to mention the possibility of all of this being the dream of an alien car saleswoman who dreams up universes because of an acute case of mental breakdown...I am just saying...let's not throw that one away right off the bat....
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Everyone considers creationists to be bigots and evolutionists to be open-minded? the humanist guy is so militant about his viewpoint i can imagine him drawing an AK any second and screaming,"DIE SUPERSTITIOUS SCUM!!"
And this whole thing of evidence is just silly. Evolutionists are truly naive if they think we are knowingly ignorant of solid evidence. Evidence for evolution-genetic patterns, transitional fossils-is all SUBJECTIVE!! we have interpreted it differently. yes, it is possible.
Good to see that creationists are the same the world over: Wormy little things who are somehow able to lie on national TV, ignore contradictory evidence and generally live in some fantasy world where they are allowed to redefine what science is.
Theists only want to put creationism in schools to turn them into sheeple generators. It's not enough to knock on our doors and chase us down the street, they have to indoctrinate them the moment they hit the education system as well.
Hasn't religion caused enough damage already? They had their dark ages, it's time for a better way.
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This video is about the right to question Darwin in the classroom. I say, let it be questioned and let the Evolutionary high priests be put to silence. If Evolution was as robust as they claim, why don't they allow criticism of their precious world view? The FTP motor in our cells is best understood using mechanical design theory, design is used by science all the time to understand how things work. But don't mention design in the classroom, it's blasphemy, so say the Darwin thought police!
Millions of atheists every day raise there children to be moral, teaching that inflicting pain upon others is not nice and you wouldn't like that done upon you, simple concepts for children, but it is based on the concept of empathy, and compassion. Not a God who teaches morals next to teaching the stoning of good people, because of there sexual preference.
I don't doubt this, but you borrow your moral ethic from a Christian foundation to society. Christians do not base their morality on OT texts to ancient Israelite, we have the New Testament and what Jesus said.
This is your world view, you make a very sweeping statement would you care to back it up with some data? Rome and Greece are no longer in existence, maybe not the best examples you could have used in support of Darwinian ethics! Rome in particular was destroyed from within by it's lack of morality. At the end of the day you cannot derive a working morality from Evolution, you have to borrow heavily from Christianity and in so doing you prove atheism is merely a parasitic philosophy.
So by what standard of morality do you make a judgment of good or bad? Yes, I have looked at a map, the Greek and Roman empires no longer exist, but Christianity is the world's largest Faith, or haven't you looked at a map recently?You said 'Inquisitions, Witch Trials, Torture Christian Morality at its best', give me a verse from the New Testament that supports these things? This is NOT Biblical morality! Hitler practiced genocide in the name of Darwinian racial purity, read Mein Kamp!
I use the same standard of morality that has been around since the dawn of our species, since the first primates decided it would be a good idea if they banded together... If they killed, raped, or thieved, they would not make a functioning tribe.
You may want to ask St. Paul, about his theology on vicarious redemption, and atonement for original sin. Not to mention the whole of the gruesome old testament.
Hitler was a Roman Catholic, and Nazi soldiers had 'In God We Trust' on their belts.
What I'd do with these packs is sort them out and take them to be recycled. Hopefully to something that makes sense.
zeldaofarel 1 week ago
I know this is an old vid but it's the same logical fallacy over and over. Ie it's to complex to be explained therefore god. Thats not evidence thats god of the gaps.
moggy041279 1 week ago
Today class, we are going to learn about creationism as well as biology. Next term we'll tackle chemistry and alchemy. And the last term in the year we'll study physics and magic.
abetterpersonthanyou 1 week ago
Let's not leave out the Dairy Theory of moon formation.
craigpsimpson 1 month ago
Keep up the fight folks, we can't go the way of the U.S! Embracing pseudoscience and disregarding rationality will be the end of us.
JoeLaTurkeyIII 1 month ago
Faith = Belief WITHOUT Proof. THIS IS NOT SCIENCE.
TBlenx1995 1 month ago
I was taught intelligent design. In religious studies. Its an interesting concept but its pure speculation and does not disprove evolution. However i guess if you're religious you could say an intelligent designer influencing it. But again its all speculation and cant be tested.
JoeyMacaroniPenguin 2 months ago
@BigjockGnu - your point exactly proves why we should teach creation science as an alternative to evolution. You are ignorant and know nothing about it and blow it off as a religious belief, rather than take a look at the scientific merits of it. If creation science vs evolution are critically weighted, evolution will be put in the trash where it belongs.
ndog37 2 months ago
creationismmm in UK STUPIDIFICATION OF THE UK IS BEGINING STOP IT PLS POPLE OF THE UK DONT MAKE YOURSELF ANOTHER JESUSLAND LIKE IN THE US
Abbadon380 2 months ago
Its Intelligent Design – not Intelligent Designer!
Charismatic789 2 months ago
Why don't these morons quit dressing priests in labcoats to try & convert children into mindless unquestioning slaves, no matter how much they try to polish up this religious turd, it's still the same bullshit its always been. "Goddidit, end of story" is not an acceptible answer when it comes to the scientific method, it's a get-out clause for admitting "We don't know yet"
Tarynus 3 months ago
Disturbing to see this sort of Creationist rubbish being discussed in the context of the English school system. Hopefully we avoid the mass insanity evident in the US!
Tapiola2007 3 months ago 14
@Tapiola2007 I agree. Scary stuff...
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EPICsliceOFcake 1 week ago
@Tapiola2007 It's not really that bad here in the US. Only the most right-wing, low income areas try to teach that. Most people don't take them seriously.
EPICsliceOFcake 1 week ago
@EPICsliceOFcake Approx. 60% of Americans don't accept that evolution is a fact. More than 80% are religious in some way. More than 40% attend church regularly. Around 60% pray weekly (i.e. speak to an imaginery friend on a regular basis!). Add to that the general prohibition on being openly non-religious/atheist in positions of public office and the depressing influence of religious pandering in American politics, I'd say that is a pretty unhealthy situation.
Tapiola2007 1 week ago
@Tapiola2007
YEP ...you so right !
Brgds
GSO
GermanStraight1 1 week ago
kinda happy
this means that kids also get to learn about wizards and dragons!!!!
i mean they have the same amount of data
490er 3 months ago
and it starts
in 100 years were going to be the laughing stock of the world
490er 3 months ago
@490er Not at all dip shit.
MrCherubhair1 2 months ago
@MrCherubhair1 i cann't believe it i'm gonna get to learn how to turn a rock into gold!!!!
funny thing is that their is more proof for that then their is of a "god" that proof is called mass conversion in which you modify the atomic mass of the object by breaking and fusing the atoms
this is a theory
it's possible but not possible currently because we don't have that level of technolgy yet
490er 2 months ago
@490er Its bullshit.
MrCherubhair1 2 months ago
I'd like to add that it's people like MacIntosh that need to be kept away from children not be at the forefront of producing material that lie and mislead our young under the guise of debate.
plonk220a 3 months ago
How did this man become a professor? Shameful for our country.
plonk220a 3 months ago
I was always consoled by the thought that this was only taking place in the U.S. but is now infiltrating into the U.K. I just hope my kids get throught he school system before this spreads. Very disheartening.
taffwob 3 months ago 2
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We need to put a stop to these religious retards before they ruin this country by turning it into a religious state, These people are no better than the Muslim fundamentalists (Taliban) in some countries that want to run the country by sharia law, it is exactly the same thing. Religious fundamentalism is a bad thing, regardless of what religion it is.
ACCSESS247 3 months ago
Im not the most intelligent man but when he says about the second law of thermodynamics doesnt that only apply in a closed system? The earth isnt a closed system. i wonder if he knows the rest of the laws...
deepskanker 4 months ago
@deepskanker I am tempted to email professor Macintosh and ask him would he permit the critical teaching of the second law of thermodynamics and indeed evidence against the second law of thermodynamics..... wonder if I would get a reply....
scarletharlot69 4 months ago
@deepskanker When someone brings up the Second Law of Thermodynamics, ask them to explain the other three; if they can't, then they hold no position in bringing up just one of them to try proving their point
Tarynus 3 months ago
e“If we are going to teach creation science as an alternative to evolution, then we should also teach the stork theory as an alternative to biological reproduction.”
BigjockGnu 4 months ago 16
Creationism is not science and has no evidence.
We came from a soup and believe me, that's modern science.
ikawpipa 4 months ago 2
I hope Paxman is only playing devil's advocate here.
hughiealonso 5 months ago
I'm really surprised that the UK would even consider something so ludicrous. Unintelligent Design has nothing to do science.Dawinism is a tested science and certainly is more than a mere therory.I am a naturalized American citizen,but was born a British subject and still hold a UK passport. If one of these ignorant GOP contenders, Perry, Bauchman, Palin, Santorum or any other Teabagger becomes President, I will be returning to the UK for political asylum. Don't follow the US lead on this, OK?.
srkane48 5 months ago
Wait, in public schools or private schools?
gulbirk 5 months ago
More censorship from atheists... typical...
dex1391 5 months ago
@dex1391 Consorship, what are you talking about?
Its not censorship, its protecting bullshit from coming out, because it has not been proven.
Also, its not atheists VS theists. Most theists and several scientists ARE religios. Its a matter of reality VS superstition.
gulbirk 5 months ago
@gulbirk
It's censorship. Don't pull that crap...
It is nothing more.
dex1391 5 months ago
@dex1391 Ok. So should we also teach the students that the holocaust never happened?
No you idiot. EVERY SINGLE PAPER THAT YOU READ IN SCHOOL has gone through per review processes. This creationists shit hasnt.
gulbirk 5 months ago
@gulbirk
That's a lie and you know it.
It's censorship and it's wrong.
dex1391 5 months ago
@dex1391 NO actually thats true. I dare you to find any science that they teach us in school that has not gone through an enormeous amount of per review.
gulbirk 5 months ago
@gulbirk
OK... Science. But that's not what you said. Science is one class out of 7 or 8 in a day.
Every single paper doesn't go thru the peer review process.
That's simply a lie.
I'm tired of these guys pissing on the 1st amendment and pushing to take away my rights.
dex1391 5 months ago
@dex1391 Ok, then PRESENT the things they teach us that isnt per reviewed work. Tell me what they teach you that hasnt been proven.
gulbirk 5 months ago
@gulbirk um theory...
Atheism..
Anything OTHER than science....
You think that gym is peer reviewed? LOL really? How about cooking? Spanish?
Try thinking for a minute...
dex1391 5 months ago
@dex1391 Thanks you for proving your ignorance. Theory has been proven. Suggestion or idea is called hypothesis, go study science. We are talking about SCIENCE here. Gym isnt science (excerise isnt science) and its not presenting you with any facts. Cooking isnt science nor is language classes.
gulbirk 5 months ago
@gulbirk
LOL isn't that the point idiot. Science isn't every class... As you forgot.
Wow are you stupid.
dex1391 5 months ago
@dex1391 No, thats not the point.
The point is that you want Intelligent design in schools. Intelligent design goes as a SCIENCE subject, therefore needs to be proven and per reviewed.
gulbirk 5 months ago
@gulbirk
LOL what the hell? You've got to be a troll I never even brought up ID.
Stop bothering me retard...
dex1391 5 months ago
@dex1391 Oh sorry. So what kind of Censorship were you talking about?
gulbirk 5 months ago
@gulbirk Boy oh boy, what a potty mouth you are Mr. Dex (or could be Ms Dex if you're from Tex-ass.) Would Jesus approve you telling your guests "cunt" and to "fuck off and die?" I think not And you only allow those you agree with to post. You're sort of having an ignorant conversation with yourself. It's kind of like watching someone masterbate. you master of hypocracy, you. I think I'll stick with my Atheist morality. It is kinder and gentler than you Knights Templer type. Scary as Hell!
srkane48 5 months ago
Um what? ID isn't creationism...
dex1391 5 months ago
@dex1391
why?
1Munro3000 5 months ago
intelligent design is a fact we all know that the flying spagetti monster created the universe and us humans when he was drunkits pretty obvious, ps only joking intelligent design=bullshit
guitarcar911 5 months ago
He just repeats himself hoping against hope that his bullshit religion won't get questioned anymore.
FUCK creationism.
Primordialfan1 6 months ago
Lewis Wolpert got sucked into using the word Darwinism, didn't explain that theories are what science is all about, & let McIntosh seem credible. He should have used the ruling in the Dover case that ID was a religious view & not a scientific theory.
We don't need a trial in this country, we need a campaign to get the UK government to realise that creationists are using loopholes to get religion taught in science classes.
Well my campaign starts here. Contact me, I need help.
GuillemotWatcher 6 months ago
@kevinkards1 He's an engineer. Have you not heard of the salem hypothesis?
bingofingers 6 months ago
god is a myth where did the prof get his degree he is a quak
kevinkards1 6 months ago
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What happens when you die? Have you told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain(10 Commandments)? If yes, then you're a liar, thief, and a blasphemer in the sight of God. When you die & be judged by God, you'll be guilty of sin, & go to Hell! But God sent His Son Jesus to shed His blood & die on a cross for your sins, He was buried & rose again from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus's death for your sins, His burial & resurrection)you'll not perish & have eternal life
gramosjr7 6 months ago
By the way, the quotemine that Paxo picks apart is still displayed prominently on the TiS home page. Filth.
JSvid1 7 months ago
Creationism, lying for Jesus!
And ask them a straight question and watch them dodge and weave!
Man I fucking hate those dishonest weasels, every single one of them.
TheSkunkCat 7 months ago
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Brushles83 7 months ago
'we are not trying to push our religion' liar liar bum's on fire!!!
scarletharlot69 8 months ago
If you take the bible as a true account how the universe came to be and how man was put on the earth, then you simply MUST believe in a creator or intelligent designer.
mrpamayer 8 months ago
"You've got evidence for the existence of God?"
At this point I loled.
BasilFawlty4444 8 months ago
What is this dribble ohh teach the controversy why? when it has been scrutinised and proved wrong so many times. You don't teach in geography that the eart is spherical or flat do you? I am so sick of religious turds like Andy Mcintosh trying to pollute science with their religious convictions. When wil the world wake up from religion?
TheXman300 8 months ago
"Second law of thermodynamics."
Fail.
uriituw 8 months ago
damn, i thought we were better than this
LewisAM37 8 months ago
What bothers me the most is, the guy on the screen, his reflection on the table, why isn't it upside down?
Fungo4 9 months ago
what fucking evidence is this creationist douche bag talking about?
pharyngealized 9 months ago
"we are not trying to.. blabla"... yes you are, YES you ARE. If Intelligent Design (which IS creationism repackaged) was in any way scientific, it would have undergone scrutiny by the scientific community and if there WAS reasonable evidence to suggest an intelligent designer, then it WOULD ALREADY be taught in schools. But the pure solid truth is the contrary. There is no evidence. It is just not science, and therefore doesnt belong in science classrooms.
timmysgonnagetcha 10 months ago
It is exactly like trying to teach shakespeare in mathematics.
timmysgonnagetcha 10 months ago
Search for this video [Evolution vs. Creationism: Is Hearing Both Sides Fair?] and you will see that this argument is really quite simple.
MagicStickUK 11 months ago
My class watched some of this creationist video, it makes huge intellectual jumps without any evidence. I would be worried about it being shown to lower level classes.
n00bster101 11 months ago
C'mon England put an end to this non sense, maybe we can take a cue from you on it. Our (USA) standing in science in public schools is absolutely pathetic...we are 25th...sad. Our Constitution should leave no question on this subject, but we have to beat them in court, which we have over & over. Our kids ability to learn suffers. I understand religious people's complaint that they think their kids are being taught something they disagree with, but (cont)->>
orangemod 1 year ago
the argument isn’t that of creationism vs. evolution. It is that creationism is not science. To teach every possible “belief” (which is what we would have to do to be fair) would make teaching science impossible. There would be NO time left to teach real science. It is sad how few people even understand what the word “theory” even means. We have adults who don’t even understand: “Theory” “hypothesis” etc. etc.
So, let us not teach science, let us teach people’s beliefs…UGH.
orangemod 1 year ago
This is what you get trying to fit religion into science. What scientific hypothesis would say "oh, we cant discuss that" because its not science. ? now kids , have a nice class of pink lemonade and a bowl of noodles for lunch, honor the FSM and IPU and study science with an open mind , just dont be so open that your brain falls out.
SqueakerAlpha 1 year ago
Darwinism is nothing but a belief and has never been proven, that is why they do not want any rebuttal of it in class because they know that the Darwin theory is just an unproven theory and cannot hold up to scrutiny
Darwinism has become nothing more than a dogmatic religion for misguided people to hold on to
DaveSquibbSr 1 year ago
@DaveSquibbSr Darwinism doesn't exist, you either think evolution is true or you don't, evolution theory has come a long was since Darwin.
Your comment is nothing but assertions, untrue ones at that, are you aware that evolution is the fact and the theory is how we explain it? Of course you aren't because you haven't ever studied it and therefore have no business talking on the matter.
Now invent a time machine and be out of our hair you loon.
ihaterobbie123 1 year ago
@ihaterobbie123 God watches over fools too
God Bless ;-)
DaveSquibbSr 1 year ago
@DaveSquibbSr You do realize everything in religious texts that pertains to how the universe came to be and how life formed where written by primitive tribes some 8000 years ago, whose understanding of the universe was none existent apart from tracking the movement of celestial bodies to some precision.
Intelligent design are those old fables repackaged. Whilst religious texts can be used as metaphor rather well, they should leave the mechanics of the universe and its creation to science.
galenwolf 11 months ago
@DaveSquibbSr Hey Dave! Evolution is a Fact! The Theory of Evolution is the culmination of Facts! It is a Stronger Theory with more Facts than that of Gravity! The Theory of Evolution has never been Disproved or Debunked and never will be. Please explain to me what evidence you have that proves Evolution is wrong. Just one piece of factual evidence is all I am looking for. And when you give it to me I promise to split the one million pounds made from the noble prize with you. Honest!
TacticalAtheist 11 months ago
When i was at 6th form we received one of these packs. my biology teacher showed it to people in lessons as a warning for how pseudo-science is dangerous. Even in the GCSE classes the kids were picking this apart as rubbish!
Rmb2489 1 year ago
Youtube atheist pressure group at work. You can tell because they're always there with the same arguments about the 'man in the sky' and the 'facts' and 'evidence' and of course the filthy language and insults. Thank you fellow Christians for standing up to them (not).
334286 1 year ago
@334286 Yes, facts and evidence, because without them there is no reason to believe in a claim.
yurity 1 year ago
Ha. Same shit, different accent. Fuck off you ID tosspot.
FSEffect 1 year ago
The Theory of Intelligent Design: There was somebody who designed aspects of life and the universe, and who knows... maybe his name starts with a 'G', or something....
FiverBeyond 1 year ago
SETI looks for intelligence in the universe using scientific method.
ID looks for intelligence in biology using the same scientific principles.....but as usual athiestic evolutionists want two different sets of rules to apply because they dare not allow the possibility.
MorganMckeown 1 year ago
Jeremy Paxman is a master debater!
dirtydonki 1 year ago
Burn the stupid moronic ID witches.
dirtydonki 1 year ago
we have skulls of apes spreading from 4billion years to today which can link us
and we can match DNA to apes which shows 98% possitive
how can you possibly say that we did not evolve at some point
its like in the canine family way back in the stone age all dogs were wolves the quick ones were used to hunt the slow ones used for warmth thats why some dogs are small (to get down burrows) some are drapped in fur (warmth) some are fast (chasing prey)
secretidentity555 1 year ago
he looks like john major and harold bishop's bastard lovechild.
MrTonyInchpractice 1 year ago
DNA isn't evidence of God, the fact DNA mutates and is vulnerable to mutation shows more of a design flaw than a designer. I'm so glad I was never taught creation in school.
mediumphill 1 year ago 2
They ALWAYS seem to avoid the questions. This was 41/2 years ago, science moves fast, now the evidence is just extremely overwhelming, and cannot be dismissed without some feeling that it's absolutely right. Now, scientists have been able to create their own DNA using computer technology, and insert it into bacteria. The bacteria is fully functional, and it is not allowed to be released into the wild due to possible eco-problems. This is not just a copy, the DNA is BRAND NEW!!!!
speedproductions797 1 year ago
who created the designer?
warbatron2 1 year ago
@warbatron2 He he, they don't like that question at all!
i5itint3ll3ct 1 year ago
Oh god, that creationist ballsack is pathetic. I would prolly shoot myself if I was so stupid as to claim that evolution means things coming together by accident... Then again, I would probably not, I think I'd be supporting this guy if that was the case.
But really, to show such an awesome lack of understanding about the basics of the theory and to demand that it should be questioned is really quite perplexing. Oh, would that this idiocy just wanished...
PeGe90 1 year ago
Intelligent Design is just a rebranding of Creationism. Creationism says the Christian God created everything. Intelligent Design says someone created everything but we all know who that is. *nudge nudge wink wink*
OregonAlleyCat 1 year ago
Meh this is bullshit, I was in year/grade 9 at the time this fiasco was going on and i never heard about it till now. It would never be allowed into UK schools. Me and my classmates would have laughed it out of the classroom!!! Its all rubbish and blown up in the media. Was never put into schools in the slightest. Only ever learnt about religion in RE class (religious education)
onevision1991 1 year ago
@onevision1991 Same here.
Averagegamer100 1 year ago
If any of these loonies attempt to teach this nonsense to my kids, I'll do my level best to have them dismissed from their teaching post. I'd hope any other parent would do the same.
alfapint 1 year ago
@saynotodarwin "that gave you the holy bible" I'm sorry next you'll be telling me jesus was american.
minimacca999 1 year ago
wow, i thought this crap was only in the us. i thought u brits were smart.
ilovetheview47 1 year ago 34
@ilovetheview47 Yeah, you'd think that...but what can you do?
Wallij15 1 year ago
@ilovetheview47 Nope. Sadly, there are plenty of delusional people in the UK as well. Forunately, the problem is small scale - especially when compared to the US. However, until the whole madness related to religion (of whatever faith) is cured through proper education, these lunatics are going to get air time.
Tapiola2007 1 year ago
@Tapiola2007 Excuse me? We are NOT apes, we did NOT evolve from them either. Evolution is a lie, so is the big bang. WHAT CAUSED THE BIG BANG? SCIENTIFIC ANSWER: "MATTER/ANTI-MATTER AND ENERGY" Where exactly did this energy or matter come from? It obviously couldn't come from nothing, because nothing can come from nothing. For us humans to imagine a beginning without no cause before it is unimaginable because our brains can't deal with a concept like that. Answer: Intelligent Designer.. GOD.
Z1GGYK3V 1 year ago
@Z1GGYK3V You've just proved my point: plenty of delusional people spouting religious madness. Yes, we are African apes and we evolved from an ancestor we share with the four other great apes (chimps, bonobos, gorillas, orang-utans). Fossil and genetic evidence bear this out. How amusing, how sad for you to invoke the limitations of the human brain and then posit the ludicrous conclusion that because there are difficult questions god fits the gap. You do your species a huge disservice!
Tapiola2007 1 year ago 3
@Tapiola2007 Well nearly, we have the same ancestors as Apes, we are all hominids, but homo sapiens are a different Branch of the evolutionary tree, and that is why there is not an intermediary species alive in this sense. All these religious fools think there is a direct chain like the diagram that shows, and thus they think they should be able to see all the different stages. but this is not Evolution. Yes Africa was (tectonics withstanding) the cradle of life.
i5itint3ll3ct 1 year ago
@Tapiola2007 Totally agree with you. And in my humble opinion, the Universe is somewhat too comlex a structure to have been constructed by a single being, regardless of power or intellect.
And Life didn't occur by chance but by the invevitability of chemistry, physics and a host of other scientific laws.
VinnyMonster1 4 months ago
@Z1GGYK3V Are you truly serious?. Science may not be able, presently, to answer all such questions of creation, and life, but It certainly doesn't mean that the only other alternative is a designer. Science has never claimed to know everything, but religious people always seem to think they know it must be God. There is Zero evidence (and No the Bible is NOT scientific evidence) for a creator which can be tested scientifically, compared to nearly 100 years of evidence for physics, and science.
i5itint3ll3ct 1 year ago
@ilovetheview47 I was lectureed by this guy when I was on a fire dynamics course. He never the appearence of being mentally ill.
huntmatuk 1 year ago
@ilovetheview47
Except in the US you cannot get elected to office unless you believe in this crap.
ToothbrushMan 1 year ago
@ilovetheview47 The UK is and always will be a place with one of the largest percentage of Atheism, but creationists are always trying to worm their way in.
FOOFlGHTERS 1 year ago
@ilovetheview47 Apparently all the english speaking countries are filled with idiots.
PllSteinar 1 year ago
@ilovetheview47
so an expert in thermodynamics knows everything about biology
if the two theories are so equitable in validity as the 'god' people claim
then let us see them intelligently design an experiment that will differentiate
whitesquirrel7 1 year ago
it's only a theory darwinism is a fact when you use the none scientific term theory
johnnyd101 1 year ago
well you see the aliens came here to hunt and they killed all the large animals.
and one of the aliens got hit in the head with a coconut .and then.
one alien thought hey what if we splice their genes with the human evoloution virius.
and come back latter to collect new specimins to hunt and sell.
well thats what happened....they spliced our dna , so they could make vaccines to get rid of disesis and make new types of drugs to sell and new nano technology to
control your mind .......
abadkitty808 1 year ago
So it's happening in GB as well. Maybe they're right, maybe there is a designer. Krishna. Oops, I'm sorry I meant Thor. Zeus, Zeus sorry. Actually Seth given some of the viruses out there. No, on second thought it's Allah. Actually, when I think about it it may be the Chocolate Chimp monk.
MateiAlexandruBogdan 1 year ago 10
i want the santa in school
ilovetheview47 1 year ago
2:35 I love the way he goes "cerrrtainly not! good lawd"
Brushles83 1 year ago
6:50
this is what is wrong with one of ID "strongest" arguments.
evolution does NOT violate thermodynamics. nothing of the sort.
foxmcloud555 1 year ago
This proves once again how weak religious faith is, McIntosh can't bring himself to say the word ''God'' when asked ''who'' the designer in ''Intelligent Design'' is.
What a fucking pussy.
Zed1967 1 year ago
You know this man is full of shit, because he insists that ID is science and has evidence in support of it.
He insists the science of ID be critiqued by non-scientists in a classroom.
And finally he insists that evidence supporting evolution can be interpreted, with validity, in support of ID - failing to acknowledge his own interpretations of thermodynamics and information theory must also be subject to the same treatment.
Anyone can be on tv these days.
lolgepwnt 1 year ago
Oh look, lets ignore this, discard that, say this is unreliable and POOF! God did it! Not only God, but Jesus Christ! Oh by the way, while we are at it, you better believe like me or you go to HELL! Homework for tonight: 50 hail marys.
Moonbogg 1 year ago
After watching american news involving simmilar debates, one must be amazed on how fair UK news are. He realy asked equally hard questions to both sides as a real anchorman should. I know my post isn't that relevant to the subject here, but it as a neutral party from sweden I just have to point out that UK>US.
Fireeyes91 1 year ago
If you think Paxman's being tough here, you should see him interviewing politicians. He once asked Michael Howard the same question 14 times in a row. As we say in England, 'you know when you've been Paxoed!'
TolpuddleMartyr 1 year ago
religion holds our tehnological development for solving crucial problems regarding our lives
christians like you , who waste their lives believing in an fairytale , arrogantly saying the other hundreds of religion with the same amount of nonevidence is wrong are a waste of space and resources
stop wasting air to worship an sky daddy
xleo21 2 years ago 2
I like Paxman but the way he says "Darwinism is ONLY a theory" makes me wanna slap him.
jround93 2 years ago
He asked a question that many ignorant people would ask in order that Lewis Wolpert could explain that evolution is a fact.
He took on the role of the self righteous ignoramus and asked it in exactly the way these buffoons always do.
He wanted Wolpert to 'slap' this stupid creationist mantra and managed to invoke a passionate response that is more memorable than had Wolpert answered in a matter of fact tonality.
digitaljez 1 year ago
@jround93
he knows what he's doing. he knows that therein lies the flaw in the argument in that it is most certianatly not just a theory.
he's just making sure he shows a fair and balenced argument.
foxmcloud555 1 year ago
@foxmcloud555 Thanks for the explanation. A part of me died inside when I thought he was just being ignorant.
jerrypz 10 months ago
I liv in Brit... I thght you were brit as you wer commentin on a brit program it is an honest mistake, ok everything you say is either childishly stupid or just plain ignorant, the USA did not give us the holy Bible it was created by a jewish cult approx 2000 yrs ago, I'm not blessd by christianity, it inhibits freedoms blocks rational thought and is based on an lie, Christianity has resulted in HIV/AIDs in Africa being more abundent because of their biews on condoms, wud a scientist do that NO!
helloground 2 years ago 4
@saynotodarwin Sir you are the stupidest creature imaginable, face facts, I thought weirdos like you only existed in the USA but clearly I was wrong... eugh makes me shamed to live in this country!!!
helloground 2 years ago 3
MacIntosh is a massive fool. It's absolutely amazing to think that this guy is actually a professor!
Wolpert kicked ass
WastedTourist 2 years ago
things evolve by accident? no, it is by natural selection
Piersmaru 2 years ago
I love how he interrogates him.
Uktrayf 2 years ago
every coin has two sides!when looking at science one should always look at the evidence of all 3 sciences simultaneous. most ID scientists, Dr's,Profs,phds don't believe in 6000 years,although theories in physics like quantum physics would make it possible because in the nether regions of the sub atomic world anything and everything is possible,e.g. that the speed of light was indeed infinite after the big bang!evidence shows that the speed of light was faster light years ago! Keep u mind open
Nimrodyo 2 years ago
@Nimrodyo ID is not a viable critique of Evolution. You cannot investigate a scientific theory with non scientific methods, it would be a flawed comparison. I believe the scientific community is open minded about arguments against accepted theory, but hose arguments MUST provide valid evidence in support. ID cannot, and thus cannot be considered a valid Scientific Argument.
i5itint3ll3ct 1 year ago
That's right, no evidence at all.
Other than the fossil record, genome sequencing, observed speciation etc etc etc etc ect.
And why can't creationists be more honest about their motives?
D3ltaStar 2 years ago 3
@D3ltaStar don't forget Plate Tectonics, Dawkin, suggests this is one of the best evidential theories in support of Evolution.
i5itint3ll3ct 1 year ago
100% bullshit.
how do you expect anyone to take you seriously when your entire argument is lies?
seanbrockest 2 years ago
Wiiiillllmmmmaaaaaaa!!!
uzebdrumz 2 years ago
a religion should be total order
and it should have evidence in the form of signs of order in the creation
any thing can not evolved by accident of darwin
gffran 2 years ago
Who said anything about accident?
NoodlesTux 2 years ago
no!
a true religion is based on evidence
dont paint with one brush all religions
gffran 2 years ago
@gffran No its not Religion, by its very meaning and substance is based on Faith, faith and belief in the face of total lack of valid evidence. Truth has no part to play in Religion, if something were proved to be fact it would not require faith that it was true, and thus it would not be 'religion'. Your statement is incorrect. In fact I'm sure there are even religious people who would disagree with you.
i5itint3ll3ct 1 year ago
saynotodarwin,
the Flinstones is not real
colbertLOTR91 2 years ago
bullshit
Syrinx69 2 years ago
It is not the place of the scientific classroom to bring in religious instruction but neither is it the place to propagate the blind belief in atheistic philosophy.
Professor Lewis wolpert is a Vice-President of the British Humanist Association.
He is not speaking from a non-bias scientific standpoint. He is merely pushing his beliefs. He is known for his arrogant dogmatic attitude. As you can see, he can barely keep is calm even on Newsnight!
He also says many things which are untrue.
TheBibleNinja 2 years ago
explain how change in the genetic material of a population of organisms from one generation to the next is an atheistic philosophy.
Altoids23 2 years ago 2
@TheBibleNinja "blind belief in atheistic philosophy." This statement is so incorrect. There is no "Atheist philosophy". Atheism is simply a lack of belief in any supernatural God, or creator. How can one believe in non belief? and thus be blind to it? Get your head out of your arse and stop trying to propagate the idea of 'religious Atheism', its a contradiction of terms. We are not a seperate group of worshipers, we are the left overs after u count the religious nuts.
i5itint3ll3ct 1 year ago
NOT IN OUR SCHOOLS!
FLUSEM666 2 years ago 4
oh please ID witjh transitional forms is all
WER BEING TESTED AHHH!
well i propose uninterlligent design as part of unified noodle theory
dunndudebemelol 2 years ago
you're confusing species with variations and micro with macro evolution. We have NOT observed the evolution of a new species, that, by your reckoning, takes millions of years.
Evolution is a fact because science has concluded that it is he most reasonable and logical explanation for the atheist worldview. If you first rule out God, then evolution is the best and and only theory to explain existence, but God has only been ruled out because of 'logic' in other words, peoples' personal disbelief.
daisukeghost 2 years ago
You are a moron. Evolution is a mechanism for the transition from lower beings to more evolved beings (namely, humans). It speaks to nothing of the origin of existence. Fuck you are an idiot.
365to173repubsPWNED 2 years ago 2
daisuleghost, evolution is only for athiest?
Are you aware that the scientests for the Human genome project believes that god had something to do with the creation of the earth, and then evolution took over.
Although I disagree with that, BUT his own belief proves that evolution is not only for "godless animals"
colbertLOTR91 2 years ago
sorry, not all "the scientests" of the human genome project i meant a few
colbertLOTR91 2 years ago
Yeah, I agree that evolutionism does not rule out God. If I were to be convinced that evolution occurred, I would accept it as part of the story of creation. My only reasons for doubting evolution are based on science and my perception of logic.
And don't worry, I don't think atheists are godless animals xD
daisukeghost 2 years ago
He forgot to mention the possibility of all of this being the dream of an alien car saleswoman who dreams up universes because of an acute case of mental breakdown...I am just saying...let's not throw that one away right off the bat....
Falloutmoon 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Everyone considers creationists to be bigots and evolutionists to be open-minded? the humanist guy is so militant about his viewpoint i can imagine him drawing an AK any second and screaming,"DIE SUPERSTITIOUS SCUM!!"
And this whole thing of evidence is just silly. Evolutionists are truly naive if they think we are knowingly ignorant of solid evidence. Evidence for evolution-genetic patterns, transitional fossils-is all SUBJECTIVE!! we have interpreted it differently. yes, it is possible.
daisukeghost 2 years ago
Good to see that creationists are the same the world over: Wormy little things who are somehow able to lie on national TV, ignore contradictory evidence and generally live in some fantasy world where they are allowed to redefine what science is.
topstep 2 years ago
Theists only want to put creationism in schools to turn them into sheeple generators. It's not enough to knock on our doors and chase us down the street, they have to indoctrinate them the moment they hit the education system as well.
Hasn't religion caused enough damage already? They had their dark ages, it's time for a better way.
AnnoyedDragon 2 years ago 4
That dudes an idiot.
Possibility is not evidence. There's a possibility that i'll turn into a chicken tomorrow, but that's not evidence.
Evidence is if I started to grow feathers out of my arse!
yukimushu 2 years ago 4
@yukimushu Lol, cluck cluck, oh Crap you were right!
i5itint3ll3ct 1 year ago
What would you do if Science could discover the origin of life on this Earth?
What would you do if Science could discover the origin of the of the Universe?
What would you do if the answer Destroyed God and Allah and all Deities born from ignorance?
What would you do if the answer Destroyed Muhammad and Christ and all prophets of ignorance?
What if Science discovered that we have but one life to live and when we die we are gone forever!.
Would you be thankful for your existence?
BrightlyEvolving 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
This video is about the right to question Darwin in the classroom. I say, let it be questioned and let the Evolutionary high priests be put to silence. If Evolution was as robust as they claim, why don't they allow criticism of their precious world view? The FTP motor in our cells is best understood using mechanical design theory, design is used by science all the time to understand how things work. But don't mention design in the classroom, it's blasphemy, so say the Darwin thought police!
gavinmatthewcox123 2 years ago
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gavinmatthewcox123 2 years ago
Millions of atheists every day raise there children to be moral, teaching that inflicting pain upon others is not nice and you wouldn't like that done upon you, simple concepts for children, but it is based on the concept of empathy, and compassion. Not a God who teaches morals next to teaching the stoning of good people, because of there sexual preference.
darrenkincaid 2 years ago
Your previous comment used the most filthy and offensive language, out of your own mouth you are judged and condemned.
gavinmatthewcox123 2 years ago
I don't doubt this, but you borrow your moral ethic from a Christian foundation to society. Christians do not base their morality on OT texts to ancient Israelite, we have the New Testament and what Jesus said.
gavinmatthewcox123 2 years ago
The New Testament borrows its morality from innate evolved human morality and solidarity.
You really think Rome or Greece could have existed without morality?
ByronC900 2 years ago
This is your world view, you make a very sweeping statement would you care to back it up with some data? Rome and Greece are no longer in existence, maybe not the best examples you could have used in support of Darwinian ethics! Rome in particular was destroyed from within by it's lack of morality. At the end of the day you cannot derive a working morality from Evolution, you have to borrow heavily from Christianity and in so doing you prove atheism is merely a parasitic philosophy.
gavinmatthewcox123 2 years ago
Rome and Greece no longer exist? Have you looked at a map recently?
2,000 years ago, ROME was more advanced than most Islamic countries today.
The reason ROME declined had nothing to do with 'Lack of morality', it had to do with the faults in the heriditary principle..
Which weakened the empire, and allowed the cult of Christianity to take power.
The next 1,000 years were what is referred to as the 'Dark Ages'.
Inquisitions, Witch Trials, Torture... Christian Morality at its best!
ByronC900 2 years ago
So by what standard of morality do you make a judgment of good or bad? Yes, I have looked at a map, the Greek and Roman empires no longer exist, but Christianity is the world's largest Faith, or haven't you looked at a map recently?You said 'Inquisitions, Witch Trials, Torture Christian Morality at its best', give me a verse from the New Testament that supports these things? This is NOT Biblical morality! Hitler practiced genocide in the name of Darwinian racial purity, read Mein Kamp!
gavinmatthewcox123 2 years ago
I use the same standard of morality that has been around since the dawn of our species, since the first primates decided it would be a good idea if they banded together... If they killed, raped, or thieved, they would not make a functioning tribe.
You may want to ask St. Paul, about his theology on vicarious redemption, and atonement for original sin. Not to mention the whole of the gruesome old testament.
Hitler was a Roman Catholic, and Nazi soldiers had 'In God We Trust' on their belts.
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