Sage Francis @ Dour Festival 2005

[sadsun1988]

gee u knit? :D :D :D good man, good lyrics

[ItsThaDoc]

Great Gag

[KarmaHead15]

Hahhaa i didnt get the joke the first time and now i do

[low72]

dude im so baked and at first i didnt get the 50 cent joke, i had to listen to it a second time...now THAT is a fuckin funny ass clever joke.

[menilmontant]

that concert was absolute DOOOOPE!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember him acting like jesus on the cross with his mic stand... dope

[dontcare024]

The first song is "Mainstream 307" ya crazies.

[ericwhithr2007]

what song is this??

[slickmagic]

da vinchi! da vinchie!

[michaelrtremel]

yo sage francis breaks so much down. His style, how he got big and who he plays with breaks every mold. Hes got the biggest balls in hiphop right now. He's just doing what he does how he does it. The reason he's MAD respected is because his freestyle and battle is so off the hook. Truly.

[mikesmiley22]

I met him after he opened for Rise Against, he was chill. Signed my CD.

[saveyoursoul1]

yeah

[AbattoirDream]

this is live..

hes not gonna go overbard on the delivery or you wont understand it. simple

[WrongHandLane]

Sorry that you can't accept some artists have their own style, and though originality shouldn't always be praised, it should be respected when it's pulled off well.

[mabus2007]

hillariously stupid

[pyramidhead75]

tell em...........

[mabus2007]

So fucking Sick

The singing should have been in the recorded version, Propz Sage

[menilmontant]

OK just got it from the first comments...

Mainstream 307, off of his group Non-Prophets' album "Hope"

[menilmontant]

What's the name of the first song??

[menilmontant]

damn I remember this concert was dope....!

[xxxrellydelly890]

ramirezlee, notice that you just put him with the category with all legendary rappers. Sage Francis is a fucking lyrical animal. and he's never stolen anybody's lyrics. whereas mainstream rappers steal each other's shit all the time. which is why listening to the radio is like digging around in the trash for a diamond.

[ramirezlee]

Oh I agree radio rap is garbage but it's only been that way the past 4 or 5 years.

2pac, biggie,rakim, nas, eminem, jay-z have all been on the radio. compare the quality of their music to gucci mane, soulja boy, lil wayne, g-unit, 50 and rick ross. Mainstream rap used to be the best of the best but now it is shitty as fuck.

Jay-z isn't wack...wack to me is Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, Hurricane Chris, Mike Jones, Nelly, Birdman and all that other faggy shit.

I like Sage AND Jay-Z...both are tight

[notseymour]

yeah man,good rap does occasionally get into the charts,there is no hard and fast rule as to whats good.Personally I liked it in the early nineties, everything had funk. Basically if your entire tune comprises of simple 808 beats, auto tuned vocals, and slurred shitty rap about how you get paid to sing about being paid to sing, and the whole arrangment is obviously mastered to work as a ringtone, then your shit.But, your shit will sell like hot cakes.Compare Jay Z to sage and then to soulja boy.

[jonnymoochalatti]

oh wow, you can add comments to this faggots shit now. fuck this guy think he is that jerk-off dane cook?

[AbattoirDream]

hahaha the funny thing is.. most mainstream rappers just bite flows all day long..

sage would ruin jay-z n 50 n dickheads like that in a battle ANYDAY..

i mean half the world wld back jayz n 50 sayin oh they r so much better.. but most of them are just suburbanite castoffs from the ninetys boyband era.. REAL hip hop followers im 99% sure.. wld back sage n the underground..

thats just my 2 dusty buttons

[ramirezlee]

Oh and Jay'z Reasonable Doubt is slightly better than any of Sage's albums.

[superdad78]

not to many main streemers can fuck with underground and the ones that can arent even that main streem

[ramirezlee]

What I don't get is how can Kanye West get better reviews than most Underground rappers and most rappers in general these days? He's a great producer but his lyrics are weak.

Sage Francis is very creative. He's smart and speaks his mind. Nothing against him but he can't flow and put words together like Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Eminem, Big L, Nas and Krs-One.

[ramirezlee]

and Biggie Smalls. Big up big up.

[demiseisdue]

haha, you must not have watched the video..and what are those people doing now? oh yeah. nothing. sage is the man, and any live performance he's done is better than anything coming out now.. and if you didnt notice he didnt say anything about anyone you mentioned. but seriously.. your later comment. fuckin jay z is whack as shit.

[demiseisdue]

but i guess if you are all about treating women like shit and talking about how great you are. i can see where jay z and nas and BDK are your thing

[ramirezlee]

Reasonable Doubt by Jay-Z is a hip hop classic. To say he's wack is ridiculous. A hip hop fan should respect Jay for his work on that album. A rapper that is wack is Gucci Mane, Mike Jones, Fred Durst or Nelly..etc..

I respect Sage. He's tight. I just think other rappers have a better flow and lyrical wordplay than him.(listen to illmatic)

What are those people doing now? Nas has a new album coming out July 15. Eminem has a new album dropping this winter. DJ Premier said it's good thus far!

[ramirezlee]

I'm not here to argue. I have a lot of respect for Sage. He's a great rapper. But I enjoy other rappers work more.

And a lot of Sage fans are metal heads, indie rock fans and not hip hop heads like I am. My brother loves Sage and thrash metal but isn't into classic hip hop at all. I played him Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Rakim, and Krs-One...and he went back in his room and listened to Sage lol but it's all good.

[Riney25]

Maybe it's because Sage tours with rock related bands more than hip hop artists? (don't quote me)

Currenty, he's touring with Rise Against and Thursday. See a pattern?

I also know a lot of his fans who love rock music but aren't the greatest hip hop fans. And that's because they saw him open up for some rock concert or another.

Anyways, it doesn't really matter, I just wanted to point to one of the reason why your brother may like him.

[tornatic021]

lol @ 50.. whack black man

[ds099]

I just hate all of you.

[KIK16YONO]

50 cent wack. period. ur mind is lost if u think not.

[wecanhealthis]

despite your grammar, you're 100% right...FUCK 50 CENT!!!

[useless9ine]

I'M ROCKIN THE BIKE WITH NO HANDS...LOOK MOM!!!!!

- Sage

[nodream22]

Mainstream 307 from the Non-Prophets album Hope (2003)

[xmetalgirl805x]

what is the name of this song?

[plynchy1]

musics all about the message so fuck you rockisgood there is no set definition of hip hop and sages music goes beyond the shallow fuckin label of hip hop

[rockisgood1861]

wtf man... who is "we" at the beginning? is he referring to white people or some shit.

[Jomolocon]

hes talking about people in general... not white people.

[telmnstr]

Artists might whine about people recording their shows in the audience, and posting them on you tube.... but I have news for you, this video has sold me on seeing Sage live ASAP. Looks like a great show!

[CreativeFlicks]

G... You Nit?

[rockisgood1861]

Pun?

[ford123]

i love his shorts

[HeartSynapse]

50 cent is getting money from corporations left and right. he just got like 2oo mil from vitamin water stocks. i'm pretty sure he doesnt give back to the community either, other than singing about bitches and hoes. he claims they exist and that is why i or we have to sing about them. starvation exists, does that mean we endorse it?

[billgermany2000]

fuck wack faggot gangster posers hating on my guy

[mitchnsean11]

sage is the man, im so happy he still keeps it oldschool. ignores that gangster "IM FROM THE ATL BITCH IM GON KILL YOU" shit out of the way and just focus's on there music and the delivery of it. a genuine rapper, we need more

[rockisgood1861]

man shut the fuck up. go live in fucking south bronx for a couple years and you'll see why they rap about that shit. this cat's from the suburbs...when was the last time you had a fucking gang in the suburbs?

[bored2tears41393]

rap isn't about bitches and hoes and guns and shit like that. gangsta rap didn't become popular till 1989, roughly a decade after rap saw it's first glimpse of mainstream.

Fortunately there are some gangsta rappers who can break the mold and rap about more than that ignorant shit. however there are some shitty rapers out there who will never be anything more than ignorant pricks behind a radio-ready drum and bass.

sage raps about real shit that happens to real people. fuck you.

[rockisgood1861]

Look if you want some fucking poetry, read collins or byron. hip hop ain't about poetry... it's a reflection of every day struggles in poor black communities and shit. i admit, it's gotten off the beating path. plenty of rappers really suck... but you can't put sage up on a pedestal like this and say 'oh he's so great' just cause of his lyrics.

and don't say 'ignorant' like that. you know what you know, they know what they know. nobody's dumber than anybody else.

[wecanhealthis]

hiphop doesn't need to just be about poor black people, that's that the most IGNORANT thing i've ever heard...go listen to 50 cent, fuckin tools

[sketchphonics]

asshole. you've probably never even given a 50 cent album a good listen, if you did, you'd find that it's not half bad. not all black rappers are gangster rappers either you hick. ever listened to talib kweli or mos def maybe? how about C-Rayz walz? or are you content with that sellout indie shit (sage francis) you guys call poetry?

[TheTestTubeMind]

hey ebonics your killing be softly with your words 50 is not an artist hes a puppet. MNM is his master

[wecanhealthis]

dont give me a hip-hop lesson bitch. How can you call it sell out indie shit? 50 is a sell out, he has a fucking vitamin water for fuck's sake! He sounds like he's sleeping at the mic! im well aware that all black rappers are not gansta rappers, i love all forms of hip hop...from KRS one, to Dre, to j5, to gangstarr, to blackstar, to outkast, and and yea, all the way to sage francis, eyedea, and whoever the fuck else i feel like listening to...

[sketchphonics]

mkay. human the death dance sucked ass. sage the featured artist on myspace...calling himself a 'real underground rapper'? fuck that. that fatass is a joke. fuck you too. im tired of this shit.

[wecanhealthis]

ok, since we'll never agree on who sucks more...who do think would win a freestyle battle, sage or 50? You know my answer...or how about eyedea vs. Mos Def? Honestly...Mos might win that one, but i havent heard anything good from him ina while, so you never know...

[wecanhealthis]

any response sketchphonics? c'mon, who would win, honestly...Sage vs. 50...here's what i think would happen, Sage would come out with something sick, then when it's 50's turn, he'd mumble for a while, talk about his chains, then time would be up for him, Sage would come back again, this time barely trying, but would still rip 50 to pieces...THEN it's 50's turn, he'd mumble some more, then...he'd get shot like 9 times...AND SAGE WINS!

[sketchphonics]

I hate you.

[wecanhealthis]

i hate you too, sketch...anyway, seriously, give me a scenerio, i gave u one...sage vs 50, remember? 50 died at the end? yea you remember...any one of these guys from anticon, sfr, rhymesayers...could kill any one of your beloved mtv whores...and i agree w/poisonfists, fuck c-rayz walz, he sucks...as do you

[sketchphonics]

You must be the stupidest person I have ever met. I never once said I love 50 Cent. I'm not a fan. I don't watch MTV or any TV at all for that matter. I'm over hip hop in general anyways. It was more of a passing phase. Now I pretty much don't listen to any music at all except classical. I'm tired of talking to your stupid ass, so goodnight and don't respond to this.

[wecanhealthis]

thats just the kind of thing i'd expect from a 50 cent fan...duckin' out when things get heated...i see how it is...p.s. i chose not read the last sentence of your post...

[poisonfists]

You just went from Talib Kweli & Mos Def to C-Rayz Walz? That's quite a leap. Do a little less skech'n and a little more drawing. I stood right in front of C-Rayz at a show in DC in 2006 when he asked me, just because I was walking by, to go upstairs and bring some more girls down to his show. He sucks.

[sketchphonics]

haha that's tight as hell. so what if he likes to have girls around...can you blame him?

[canibus45]

I personally don't consider sage a 'rapper', but he is a phenomenal lyricist who can spit his shit and deliver it in a great way. One of my favorite artists

[crazyb4566]

...yea cause he is a emcee lol..

[GFKpoker]

Hang out with the Wu-tang Clan VIP style in Spain...

G F K p o k e r . c o m

[NathanNoble]

haha sage is one of the dopest rapper around (better thank wu tang like the last guy said). love his rymes and the passion and cleverness he puts into them. plus he rocks his shows in a beard and swiming trunks. its coo to see so many people hate mtv gangster rap like i do. liston to SAGE FRANCIS!

[smousy]

Sage Francis, the name is strange!!;) thx so much Sage!

[TheGreatestGreatApe]

Best rapper ever.

[Lebowsk1]

This man is taking hip hop places it's never been before and that is surely a good thing. Talented poet.

[Jizzbeast]

Any one who hates Sage has no clue about rap...

[heyimtroy]

definately

[iNSANE999]

sage ruuuuulz...oh yeah...& 50,eminem,or jay-z can suck my balls

[steviecaldwell]

fuckin brilliant !!

[milothemusician]

STRANGE FAMOUS FO LIFE!!!

[nutzach420]

yea i like the gee you knit what sage is great

[HORPISS]

Mr Strange! Wonderful.

[breezy03baby]

sage is god

[BigDigger]

u can all s u ck my balls

[iNSANE999]

& u can suck mine fuck face

[sarah12333]

Sage Francis has a white power following hahaha, you should be a comedian, coss you sure are funny PDFOUR.

[emcee68]

Why is everyone hatin' on Sage? Sage is the most independent and creative artist I've ever come across. Recognize, bitches! And who said Sage sold out? I had to laugh at that shit.

Gee, you knit?

[mssrmoogoo]

oh and now i read the comments looking for mine and i see a general concensus of "hes just a fggot mc hating on succesful arists".

its just one of his funny songs and tonnes of people think 50 and jay z suck, hes just saying he does too.

[duckfood]

not get in this fight but sage is not that underground. i love that under ground but really at what point does it stop. look at it this way he sells out as fast as anyone else. just respect everyone... love for 50 love for sage love for buck 65 and love for nas. get what you want out of the song and if you don't like it change it...

[SethMcCoy23]

It's sad to see how some people use the English language these days... "Nah SAGE FRANCIS is all fuckin hype hes fuckin wack hes retarded"

What a well thought out thing to say.

[rylanross]

SAge is god!

[patient1out]

This is a diss to 50....and he's eclectic...knowing that's RAW I love this. He's hilarious, and yet smart.

This is greatness.

[dai4u13]

Nah SAGE FRANCIS is all fuckin hype hes fuckin wack hes retarded

[PastTense]

I hate these kind of rappers..Hate on everyones sucess....rappers like these are faggots

[PDFOUR]

Though I dont hate sage, I do agree. I would have more respect for Sage if he didnt have a white supremacist fan base lol. The whole underground elitist mentality is annoying, and quite pathetic.

[crazyb4566]

he doesnt hate on other good rapper...just the wack ones..i dont see the problem

[crazyb4566]

he isnt hateing on their sucess...is just they are wack..lol put sage francis lyrics aganist 50cent..sage francis wins..easily

[dustinz286]

50 cent may be successful but he still sucks. sage isnt the greatest either, but honestly how hard is it to write a club song or rap about how rich you are when all of your peers do it? listen to wu-tang and rappers like this if you want good hip-hop

[Blindedbythelight]

wu tang.....wow..jus stfup

[doctavious]

u r a fag.

[earthboundbliss]

sage is one of the only rappers who actually talk about shit that has relavance in the world...and BTW people who call people faggots....are usually pretty damn gay...but im not one for shit talkin, now a days it's all studio shit, sage actually freestyles...and sounds good when he does it.

[mutedmakequiet]

OLOV REPRESENTIN dour 2005 !! go strange, go strange!

[TheBestSandwhichEVER]

what is the name of the first song he does

[writesofftheworld]

Mainstream 307. It's a non-prophets song.

[emcee68]

Mainstream 307, off of his group Non-Prophets' album "Hope"

[philippe597]

I saw him in france, just with a discman he made a fucking show

[baymtl]

esoboy4life, hes probably mad cuz sage made fun of his favorite rappers...

[RoaR3000]

I dunno what an esoboy4life is... ...But i think it means he has a secret crush on good ole sage...LOL

[Bleoo]

FUCK THE MAINSTREAM!!

Go Sage!

[stcboy]

esoboy is a homo, sage is the fing man. hes no slug but still the second best out there for sure.

[esoboy4life]

sage francis is fucking gay and annoying

[philippe597]

yeah, and he loves to loose his balls in your ass, he goes so deeper in you.

(nothing personal, just a joke)

[crazyfool619]

so whats so gay about him?

[dingowoo222]

sage own any artist out there...g...u...nit

[crazyfool619]

sage is god. nuff said. i like 99 rappers but Jay Z aint one!

[stosht]

whats the name of the last song they play

[theblahblah]

"bigger than hip-hop" by Dead Prez.

[stosht]

thanks a bunch yo

[uethello]

That was Sage's take on Dead Prez' "Hip Hop"

[opiums]

www.dourfestival.be

;)



[Lusid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v­=R9A4WkGH3Pc

^This ad that is^

[Lusid]

Sage owns, that dour fest ad did not.

[dourfestival]

Also check the DOUR FESTIVAL TV AD !!! SO FUNNY !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v­=R9A4WkGH3Pc

[ColdExile]

99 Rappers. Yesssss.

[51k]

his belly sure is bigger than hip hop