Terminator Tutorial p1.2: Solving and finetuning in SynthEyes 2008

[leeandroo]

Muchas gracias Amigo!!

[NiallHornProductions]

Object01: Beginning automatic estimation

Object01: Can't locate satisfactory initial frames

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[szczepanik325]

@NiallHornProductions

Try setting beginning & end frames in solver panel. 0-50, 25-50 or whatever. If it solves, then uncheck beginning and end, set solving mode to "refine" and hit "solve" button.

[NiallHornProductions]

It says can't loctae satisfoactory frames??

[007chandradeep]

my solve took 0.6 secs O_O, is that ok? it looks fine to me..

[gagandhaliwal2007]

Hi vfxworld

I get this error after pressing go! " Error constraint hasn't been set up " what to do ?

[szczepanik325]

@gagandhaliwal2007

You have to set up some contraints on trackers. If you haven't, just don't check the "constrain" box.

[Ruttie2]

How the hell did it track your eye ball?

[PotMetAppelmoes]

Could you please make a tutorial like this but than for a Voldemort nose (from Harry Potter) instead of a terminator eye?

[TheAnimalcrackheads]

When I do this only the camera moves...

[happyfoxproductions]

Would this work in boujou? I dont really want to buy another program.

[vfxworld]

@happyfoxproductions yes, this works in any other tracking program.

[criso1994]

@vfxworld No it doesnt

[vfxworld]

@criso1994 yes it does. Just treat your object as a sticky one and get the cam move.

[criso1994]

@vfxworld Boujou is designed for environment tracking so doesn't do as well as syntheyes with projects like this

[vfxworld]

@criso1994 I never sayed it does well. But it is possible and there are people using boujou for these type of projects.

[andywhufcno1]

@happyfoxproductions Lol! You are asking a question like this when you have a $10000 worth of software in Boujou. Something tells me you use piratebay..

[magicmag100]

I shall like knowing, where I could found the logciel ( the downloaded) .please

[fordaloveable]

first of all, thx for putting this tutorials.

I filmed a simpel sequence with 12 trackers on my face. the tracking seemed to be ok but after solving and refining.. there is allot of vibrating bounce on the trackers.. especially at the points (on the blue line) where i hardly move my head?!! i spend many hours doing all the things you showed. any tips? Mark

[fordaloveable]

first of all, thx for putting this tutorials.

I filmed a simpel sequence with 12 trackers on my face. the tracking seemed to be ok but after solving and refining.. there is allot of vibrating bounce on the trackers.. especially at the points where i hardly move my head?!! the blue motion path looks smooth overall except at the points as mentioned above. i spend many hours doing all the things you showed. any tips? Mark

[w0to]

i am stuck at ur tutorial, at 4:55 , when going to the perspective view and going to lock camera, i have my video, but i don't have the green crosses (trackers), i can't select them by pressing CTRL+A, did i forget anything?

[vfxworld]

@w0to right click and turn them on in the "view" dropdown, if that does not work, go to ur solve panel and increase/decrease the "world size" or rightclick and turn your active mode to navigate or edit mesh, depends on what you want to do.

[LightningFireFilms]

2 questions. 1 - Did you pay for all of your applications, or did you just get the torrents for them? 2 - When I click "go" for the solve, it says this -- "Can't locate any satisfactory initial frames" what do I do?

[vfxworld]

@LightningFireFilms first: bought them

second: all explained in the tutorial. Don't deactivate the Annotations!

anyway, just check the begin and start checkbox and be sure to set the satisfactory initial frames yourself.

[grayfpx]

@LightningFireFilms I believe it's called piracy or to be more exact cracked version's torrents are actually legal

and even if he used cracked version i doubt that he would tell us.

[LightningFireFilms]

@grayfpx hah, lol. you're probably right. i havent paid a penny for all the programs i have.

[grayfpx]

@LightningFireFilms ALL HAIL PIRACY!!!!

[LightningFireFilms]

@grayfpx hahahaha

[dasnico13]

ok I have a problem, after I solve.its not the object that is moving along the path but it is the camera.I tried disabling the camera and then solve but it doesnt work. in your video its the trackers that are moving along the path and not the camera but in my case its the camera can you help me?

thank you

[dasnico13]

@dasnico13 ok i didnt see the beginning of your video because i thaught it would be straight forword tracking the trackers. I saw you disabled the camera before adding the features. i will try that.

[MultiJacob123]

it´s synth eyes free?

[vfxworld]

@MultiJacob123 no, it costs 399$. Cheap compared to other applications.

[MultiJacob123]

@vfxworld I know it cos?

[screenmagic13]

Syntheyes is worth every penny.  Highly recommended

[drcrazyfoxvip]

thanks,now want to ask what to do from this(Had to create a distance constraint[Tracker14/Tracker10­:40]

[drcrazyfoxvip]

how to solve this problem(Object 01:Cant locate satisfactory initial frames)

[vfxworld]

@drcrazyfoxvip in the solve panel check the begin and end frame boxes and type in the start and the end frame of your sequence.

You can also pick the frames with best tracks as satisfactory initial frames.

[gruntmaster09]

whats the program called?

[vfxworld]

SynthEyes

[takeitonemoretime123]

i keep getting this error do you know why ?

Object01: Beginning automatic estimation

Object01: Can't locate satisfactory initial frames and how to fix it ?

[vfxworld]

ok

and short explanation:

THe statisfactory initial frame/s is/are the frames syntheyes looks for the 3D structure.

I told you how to solve that problem: Chekc begin and end frame boxes. and type in the numbers where you got best track results. Than you'll get a nice track and 3D structure,.

[Sakuzo]

very good tutorial. perhaps a little bit too fast for absolute beginners but perfect anyway :)

[vfxworld]

thanks ^^

If I would have this done slower, It would be like 15 or 19 parts.

[rtepCZ]

Just one nice friendly note: finetuning makes sense only for autotracks created using blips as far as I now, which is not case of your tracked markers. I didn't watch it all but it's looks a good tutorial, hope there are not more mistakes :) Cheers! Peet

[vfxworld]

Well, I noticed, that something changed after finetuning the trackers.

1. Why should SynthEyes spend much time on finetuning nothing?

2. The trackers are in another position

3. The solve is different.

All in all target tracks are like automatic trackers. Automatic trackers are using the same settings. The different between Target and automatic is, that you have more controls using the target tracks.

[rtepCZ]

Autotracking in SynthEyes works on blips linking base, it's different, fast, sometimes awesome, sometimes a little bit jittery. Finetuning converts autotracks (linked blips that were peeled to trackers) into usual trackers and retracks them using usual supervised tracking, based on settings in fine-tune dialog...

When you run this on your own tracks, it probably changes their settings to ones in dialog and retracks them, this is why it takes time and this is why they look different.

Cheers!

[vfxworld]

Yer. And this difference is sometimes better. Sometimes not.

[takeitonemoretime123]

nice i like your tuts what you really nead is a nice intro with music :)

[sindreandersen]

Did you paint those marks in you're face? or did you put them on with a program??

[vfxworld]

I painted them on my face.

[TomppaXX]

Hey these tutorials are wonderful, but I have a problem, every time I'm trying to solve I get this error:

"Object01: Beginning automatic estimation

Object01: Can't locate satisfactory initial frames"

Any possible solutions :P?

[vfxworld]

As I say in my tutorial:

"Any problems?

Check Begin and End box

Type in the Begin Frame and End frame number"

(begin frame most times 0 ^^ End frame: The end frame of ur video.)

[TomppaXX]

Ah yeah. Sorry didn't catch that :D thanks

[vfxworld]

no problem ^^

[scientificboysclub]

wait u have painted black dots on u r face or u did it in computer ?

[vfxworld]

As sayed in part 1.1, I added these dots on my face. You can paint them or use glue and put black paper on your face... ^^ helps getting a better track and a better model.

[scientificboysclub]

yeah u said it dude I know I watched full vdo... ok so , can we do same thing to the body too ?

[vfxworld]

Of course. This just shows how to track. Track what you wnat ^^ see my hand. I used same technique : added points and tracked ^^

[IIVisualFXII]

As well as the first part ^^