So don't say KO is a partisan shill, because he's not. If anything, he shills for the PEOPLE, *NOT* the Democrats! He's a populist, _not_ a partisan! He's a DAMN good Progressive liberal w/a conscience and consistant, good, morals who's fighting the good fight and highlighting evil corruption where it lies so that this class war can be truely fought.
Keith Olbermann should be a hero to us all! As one of his guests called him on his air last night, he truly is, "a national tre
So don't say that KO (or MSNBC, for that matter) is just a partisan shill, because he's not. If anything, he shills for the PEOPLE, *NOT* the Democrats! He's a *populist*, _not_ a partisan! He's a DAMN good liberal w/a conscience and consistant, good morals who's fighting the good fight and highlighting evil corruption where it lies so that this class war can be fought.
They don't! And neither does Olbermann, for that matter. In fact, the FIRST, THE *VERY* FIRST piece he did on the FIRST episode of his new show on Current last night was a damning piece where he and Michael Moore attacked Obama over Libya!
And his last piece on his first show, even, was a piece attacking *MSNBC* for allowing Joe Scarbourough to effectively BAN opposing left-wing guests from the network! (In this case it was the founder of the Daily Kos who was banned.)
How can you get through a day with such thick blinders on and do everything in your power to avoid seeing the truth all day?
There is video on this very site of McCain telling a reporter that he has met with Top Al Qeada Operatives and discussed what they are doing in Iraq...
and Obama is a Terrorist because he's hip and loves his wife?
It seems as if MSNBC is grabbing at straws. All Fox was doing was giving a possibility that was brought up then they subsequently said it was a ridiculous idea. They say Fox smears Obama, but the only thing Olbermann does is smear everyone not liberal.
There is a difference between a smear and a legitimate truth. All sides do some smearing, but FOX goes over the line with, not just smear, but nasty racist smear. You haven't seen Obama or MSNBC say things like the one's FOX focuses on.
Olbermann is making a big deal about something that was brought up as a possibility. They later went on to say the "terrorist fist jab" was a ridiculous one. Olbermann just continues to promote the hatred towards FOX.
Truth is Truth. How can the fist bump even be considered by anybody, especially a news organization that can get the details any time they want, as a possibility? You can defend the racist attack, and I say racist because it would not have been said if it had been a White man. You can defend it and Fox if you want, but the truth of all the evil smears of Fox and their defenders will come out to be just what it is. Evil Racist Fear Mongering.
Olbermann even said that there were blogs suggesting that it was a terrorist fist bump, but what Olbermann doesnt show you is that FOX went on to say that was a ridiculous idea, and if Olbermann had to defend his claim then the Truth would have been revealed but instead invited a left wing host on, and they had a little lovefest over hating FOX.
What is ridiculous is the fact that someone on Fox would say is at all. This is the arguement you and all of the people that beleive in Fox try to avoid. Why would anyone even suggest something like that, and then go and get a body language expert to interpret what they are doing? Don't run away from the arguement, answer the question and defend your position.
Im not running away from anything Im telling you for the 3rd time that this was a possibility extreme right wing blogs were saying. FOX was explaining to people who may have seen these blogs that this was ridiculous, and went so far as to have an expert come on and explain that it was just a friendly thing. Older people have no idea what that was so it was explained by someone who was credible.
That's CRAP!!! That hand jesture has been here since as far as I know the 60s. We were using it in the military. She didn't say first that she was going to say something that she got from a blog. She just blurted it out as if She was wondering. As I said, they had the resources to find out what it was before hand. This was no accident. You can go on making excuses for Fox, but the liars will still FALL.
She says it to catch the attention of the audience so that they stay tuned in then lead into the undramatic conclusion that it was a fistbump. Yeah the fist bump has been around for a while and yet there are still idiots out there who suggest on thier blogs it was terrorist related. I do not like Obama for his far left views, but by no means is he even close to being a terrorist or secretively dangerous.
That is still an excuse. I have taken Mass Communications in college. It used to be a major of mine. She didn't have to lead like that just to keep people tuned in. The point is that she didn't have to go there at all. Again they have the resources to find out what it was from the beginning. She went there because she wanted to, not because she had to.
I agree with you that she didn't have to but it was just a lead in that really grabs peoples attention. How else are you going to promote a fist bump without giving an extreme possibility. I dont even know why anyone cares about the stupid bump yet all the news networks covered it.
That is what I am saying. It didn't have to even be a story. The whole thing wasn't about the fist-bump, which they probably already knew what it was about, but an attack on Obama and his wife because of her negative views about them. Not about the fist-bump.
It didnt need to be a story; we agree on that. If you watched the entire FOX coverage of that the only people who look bad are the few Republicans who started this rumor. Olbermann only feeds you what makes FOX looks like they hate Obama which is what his agenda seems to be which is to tear down anything not left wing.
We have a different view on what we see from Olbermann and from Fox. I am glad we see eye to eye that this should not have even been a story. But the few Republicans you say started this, get their fuel and exposure from FOX. If they thought this was something ugly themselves, they would have never run it.
I think we have argued enough i guess we will have to respectfully disagree considering we have different views of politics. Republicans get fuel from FOX, and Dems get fuel from CNN and MSNBC.
Everyone's point of view is represented somewhere. But I think in this era of high-speed internet information, the truth will eventually prevail no matter who's side it falls.
lol, the weathermen didnt bomb or kill anyone with bombs, the only ppl they killed were themselves when a bomb accidently exploded in there house, its called wikipedia, your lies don't work homie.
He didn't Kill people, if he had he would have been charged with terrorism and murder. But if a person does something bad in their lives and then changes to a better person, they shouldn't have to be shuned for the rest of their lives. He doesn't regret what he did because he still, as many other people at the time still do, believe the government was responsible for the 60,000 lives lost in Vietnam. He was RIGHT. Don't forget that.
You go and drink some mccain cool-aid, he wasn't one of the bomb setters. He was in the organization but he never set any bombs to kill anyone. The ones that set the bomb also didn't intend to kill anyone. Go read you facts before you call me an ugly names.
I said GO and get your FACTS. He didn't set the bombs that killed his friends or anyone else. He helped blow up some Police Memorial Statues. He never set any bombs that killed ANYONE. If you have and PROOF, then point me to it. If he had done what you say, why is he a college proffesor now and not in JAIL. The government, especially Police would have loved to put him in JAIL if they could have. GET YOUR FACTS.
This has NOTHING to do with Obama, we are talking about Bill Ayers. The people were killed when the bomb accidentally exploded. NO one was intended to be killed. How many times do I have to say HE was NOT one of the bomb setters. He was given a position in the group dealing with EDUCATION. He was NOT a BOMB person. If YOU want to remain ASLEEP that is on YOU. But those LIES won't fly over HERE.
"We weren't terrorists," Ayers told an interviewer for the Chicago Tribune in 2001. "The reason we weren't terrorists is because we did not commit random acts of terror against people. Terrorism was what was being practiced in the countryside of Vietnam by the United States."
This what Todd Gitlin, former SDS member wrote. "OK, let's give them a medal for not killing anybody besides themselves. But they wanted to be terrorists. They planned on being terrorists. Then their bomb blew up and killed several of them and they thought better of it. They were failed terrorists."
oh right he just taught them how to make the bombs and where to put them.. no biggie..
honestly- i really never knew there were people around this dumb.. honestly..
"and the anti-obama campaining is getting- well- more and more out there".. no shit stupid.. just me alone will make it impossible for most americans to vote for him
You can try all you want, but YOU and no one else can change the New World that is coming in. This isn't about an election of McCain or Obama. This is about a whole new CHANGE in the world thinking. There are MANY more people out there than YOU and your FEW that want CHANGE in the world and will make it happen whether YOU want it or NOT!!!
This man you are talking about was a student protester 40 years ago. You probably don't know anything about the atmosphere in that time. Today he is a college proffesor. Are you going to keep condeming him for targeting some buildings, something that happened 40 years ago, and not talk about a President and Vice-President that when they get mad, they go and BlOW up an entire COUNTRY!!!
tonchi2a- yes i hear you clearly.. but i don't understand how "atmosphere in that time"
makes it kewl to do business with people who have set bombs and killed people- whatever time they were in.. especially for a president.. in all history of the United States- this idea would be unheard of.. i think the majority of americans are looking at this in silence and shock and just waiting to not vote for him..
according to the fruitcakes- when charles manson gets out on parole- i can do business with him and still run for president.. plus- i can do business with people that just got convicted.. i could even have my thug friends represent america and give them govenment jobs..
So, if McCain and Hillary did the same thing it would be called "KKK´s secret salute"? FIX network really needs to be raided and their personnel should be giving forced sex services at Guantanamo.
It's sickening how Fox News veils blatant racism as urgent news that concerns the well-being of our republic. As both human beings and Americans, no matter our political affiliation, we should be disgusted by such diseased, hateful, ignorant thinking.
@Superteamcanada
So don't say KO is a partisan shill, because he's not. If anything, he shills for the PEOPLE, *NOT* the Democrats! He's a populist, _not_ a partisan! He's a DAMN good Progressive liberal w/a conscience and consistant, good, morals who's fighting the good fight and highlighting evil corruption where it lies so that this class war can be truely fought.
Keith Olbermann should be a hero to us all! As one of his guests called him on his air last night, he truly is, "a national tre
macgeek2004 8 months ago
@Superteamcanada
So don't say that KO (or MSNBC, for that matter) is just a partisan shill, because he's not. If anything, he shills for the PEOPLE, *NOT* the Democrats! He's a *populist*, _not_ a partisan! He's a DAMN good liberal w/a conscience and consistant, good morals who's fighting the good fight and highlighting evil corruption where it lies so that this class war can be fought.
macgeek2004 8 months ago
@Superteamcanada
They don't! And neither does Olbermann, for that matter. In fact, the FIRST, THE *VERY* FIRST piece he did on the FIRST episode of his new show on Current last night was a damning piece where he and Michael Moore attacked Obama over Libya!
And his last piece on his first show, even, was a piece attacking *MSNBC* for allowing Joe Scarbourough to effectively BAN opposing left-wing guests from the network! (In this case it was the founder of the Daily Kos who was banned.)
macgeek2004 8 months ago
why does msnbc try so hard to defend obama
SuperTeamcanada 1 year ago
oh my goodness, I think i'm a terrorist now
ramone2185 3 years ago
if fist bumps make u terrorists im OBL lol
DirtyDirtracer2006 3 years ago
Arent' these Republicans kind of scary?
How can you get through a day with such thick blinders on and do everything in your power to avoid seeing the truth all day?
There is video on this very site of McCain telling a reporter that he has met with Top Al Qeada Operatives and discussed what they are doing in Iraq...
and Obama is a Terrorist because he's hip and loves his wife?
C'mon, people!
informatist 3 years ago
why would it be so unfathomably horrible if obama was a muslim? does that really matter? does separation of church and state not apply anymore?
agh668 3 years ago 3
MSNBC slams mc cain all day especaly oberman.
24857300990 3 years ago
Lets get upset about something really important - the scary thing is somepeople will really beleive it
esgranny 3 years ago
man conservatives are up tight assholes?
LoganKaill 3 years ago
It seems as if MSNBC is grabbing at straws. All Fox was doing was giving a possibility that was brought up then they subsequently said it was a ridiculous idea. They say Fox smears Obama, but the only thing Olbermann does is smear everyone not liberal.
Da55Moose 3 years ago
i agree with you there. i hate democrats and republicans they are both full of shit
LoganKaill 3 years ago
There is a difference between a smear and a legitimate truth. All sides do some smearing, but FOX goes over the line with, not just smear, but nasty racist smear. You haven't seen Obama or MSNBC say things like the one's FOX focuses on.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
Olbermann is making a big deal about something that was brought up as a possibility. They later went on to say the "terrorist fist jab" was a ridiculous one. Olbermann just continues to promote the hatred towards FOX.
Da55Moose 3 years ago
Truth is Truth. How can the fist bump even be considered by anybody, especially a news organization that can get the details any time they want, as a possibility? You can defend the racist attack, and I say racist because it would not have been said if it had been a White man. You can defend it and Fox if you want, but the truth of all the evil smears of Fox and their defenders will come out to be just what it is. Evil Racist Fear Mongering.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
Olbermann even said that there were blogs suggesting that it was a terrorist fist bump, but what Olbermann doesnt show you is that FOX went on to say that was a ridiculous idea, and if Olbermann had to defend his claim then the Truth would have been revealed but instead invited a left wing host on, and they had a little lovefest over hating FOX.
Da55Moose 3 years ago
What is ridiculous is the fact that someone on Fox would say is at all. This is the arguement you and all of the people that beleive in Fox try to avoid. Why would anyone even suggest something like that, and then go and get a body language expert to interpret what they are doing? Don't run away from the arguement, answer the question and defend your position.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
Im not running away from anything Im telling you for the 3rd time that this was a possibility extreme right wing blogs were saying. FOX was explaining to people who may have seen these blogs that this was ridiculous, and went so far as to have an expert come on and explain that it was just a friendly thing. Older people have no idea what that was so it was explained by someone who was credible.
Da55Moose 3 years ago
That's CRAP!!! That hand jesture has been here since as far as I know the 60s. We were using it in the military. She didn't say first that she was going to say something that she got from a blog. She just blurted it out as if She was wondering. As I said, they had the resources to find out what it was before hand. This was no accident. You can go on making excuses for Fox, but the liars will still FALL.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
She says it to catch the attention of the audience so that they stay tuned in then lead into the undramatic conclusion that it was a fistbump. Yeah the fist bump has been around for a while and yet there are still idiots out there who suggest on thier blogs it was terrorist related. I do not like Obama for his far left views, but by no means is he even close to being a terrorist or secretively dangerous.
Da55Moose 3 years ago
That is still an excuse. I have taken Mass Communications in college. It used to be a major of mine. She didn't have to lead like that just to keep people tuned in. The point is that she didn't have to go there at all. Again they have the resources to find out what it was from the beginning. She went there because she wanted to, not because she had to.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
I agree with you that she didn't have to but it was just a lead in that really grabs peoples attention. How else are you going to promote a fist bump without giving an extreme possibility. I dont even know why anyone cares about the stupid bump yet all the news networks covered it.
Da55Moose 3 years ago
That is what I am saying. It didn't have to even be a story. The whole thing wasn't about the fist-bump, which they probably already knew what it was about, but an attack on Obama and his wife because of her negative views about them. Not about the fist-bump.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
It didnt need to be a story; we agree on that. If you watched the entire FOX coverage of that the only people who look bad are the few Republicans who started this rumor. Olbermann only feeds you what makes FOX looks like they hate Obama which is what his agenda seems to be which is to tear down anything not left wing.
Da55Moose 3 years ago
We have a different view on what we see from Olbermann and from Fox. I am glad we see eye to eye that this should not have even been a story. But the few Republicans you say started this, get their fuel and exposure from FOX. If they thought this was something ugly themselves, they would have never run it.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
I think we have argued enough i guess we will have to respectfully disagree considering we have different views of politics. Republicans get fuel from FOX, and Dems get fuel from CNN and MSNBC.
Da55Moose 3 years ago
Everyone's point of view is represented somewhere. But I think in this era of high-speed internet information, the truth will eventually prevail no matter who's side it falls.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
I truly hope so, but I dont think that will ever be possible.
Da55Moose 3 years ago
lol, the weathermen didnt bomb or kill anyone with bombs, the only ppl they killed were themselves when a bomb accidently exploded in there house, its called wikipedia, your lies don't work homie.
jcrumpsf 3 years ago
-Rise of the McCain-o-crats-
!! just say no deal !!
"The bridge to McCain is a lot
closer than the radical gap to
senator Obama"
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az101010 3 years ago
the sooner this obama garbage stops the better..
az101010 3 years ago
He didn't Kill people, if he had he would have been charged with terrorism and murder. But if a person does something bad in their lives and then changes to a better person, they shouldn't have to be shuned for the rest of their lives. He doesn't regret what he did because he still, as many other people at the time still do, believe the government was responsible for the 60,000 lives lost in Vietnam. He was RIGHT. Don't forget that.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
tonch- yes he killed somebody you idiot..
two of the bomb setters and one innocent..
go drink some more obama cool-aid you fool..
az101010 3 years ago
You go and drink some mccain cool-aid, he wasn't one of the bomb setters. He was in the organization but he never set any bombs to kill anyone. The ones that set the bomb also didn't intend to kill anyone. Go read you facts before you call me an ugly names.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
he ADMITTED to setting bombs.. duh
he said he had NO regrets about it.. duh
and yes those bombs did kill people.. duh
what the hell is wrong with you people? this is sick..
az101010 3 years ago
I said GO and get your FACTS. He didn't set the bombs that killed his friends or anyone else. He helped blow up some Police Memorial Statues. He never set any bombs that killed ANYONE. If you have and PROOF, then point me to it. If he had done what you say, why is he a college proffesor now and not in JAIL. The government, especially Police would have loved to put him in JAIL if they could have. GET YOUR FACTS.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
tonchi- don't forget you have been mentally subdued by obama and YOUR OWN DREAM that you don't really know what it is..
facts are the very last thing a person wants in this state..
but here is the fact you asked for:
"killed three of the group's members including Ayers' girlfriend"
we must keep hammering home ugly facts until their dream becomes "infected" and obama is derailed..
obama is not the liberal he is pretending to be- he is a full blown marxist..
az101010 3 years ago
This has NOTHING to do with Obama, we are talking about Bill Ayers. The people were killed when the bomb accidentally exploded. NO one was intended to be killed. How many times do I have to say HE was NOT one of the bomb setters. He was given a position in the group dealing with EDUCATION. He was NOT a BOMB person. If YOU want to remain ASLEEP that is on YOU. But those LIES won't fly over HERE.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
"We weren't terrorists," Ayers told an interviewer for the Chicago Tribune in 2001. "The reason we weren't terrorists is because we did not commit random acts of terror against people. Terrorism was what was being practiced in the countryside of Vietnam by the United States."
tonchi2a 3 years ago
This what Todd Gitlin, former SDS member wrote. "OK, let's give them a medal for not killing anybody besides themselves. But they wanted to be terrorists. They planned on being terrorists. Then their bomb blew up and killed several of them and they thought better of it. They were failed terrorists."
tonchi2a 3 years ago
In June 1969, the Weatherman took control of the SDS at its national convention, where Ayers was elected "Education Secretary".
tonchi2a 3 years ago
oh right he just taught them how to make the bombs and where to put them.. no biggie..
honestly- i really never knew there were people around this dumb.. honestly..
"and the anti-obama campaining is getting- well- more and more out there".. no shit stupid.. just me alone will make it impossible for most americans to vote for him
even long before election time..
az101010 3 years ago
You can try all you want, but YOU and no one else can change the New World that is coming in. This isn't about an election of McCain or Obama. This is about a whole new CHANGE in the world thinking. There are MANY more people out there than YOU and your FEW that want CHANGE in the world and will make it happen whether YOU want it or NOT!!!
tonchi2a 3 years ago
one belief a certain friend of obama has is blowing up buildings when he is mad at his leaders and says he never regretting doing it..
az101010 3 years ago
This man you are talking about was a student protester 40 years ago. You probably don't know anything about the atmosphere in that time. Today he is a college proffesor. Are you going to keep condeming him for targeting some buildings, something that happened 40 years ago, and not talk about a President and Vice-President that when they get mad, they go and BlOW up an entire COUNTRY!!!
tonchi2a 3 years ago
tonchi2a- yes i hear you clearly.. but i don't understand how "atmosphere in that time"
makes it kewl to do business with people who have set bombs and killed people- whatever time they were in.. especially for a president.. in all history of the United States- this idea would be unheard of.. i think the majority of americans are looking at this in silence and shock and just waiting to not vote for him..
az101010 3 years ago
BREAKING NEWS!!!
obama indicted in connection with rezko case
az101010 3 years ago
according to the fruitcakes- when charles manson gets out on parole- i can do business with him and still run for president.. plus- i can do business with people that just got convicted.. i could even have my thug friends represent america and give them govenment jobs..
az101010 3 years ago
You don't need to call him anything.
Just look at Obama's voting record..!
Higher taxes means less money in your pocket, means you buy less things, which means businesses take in less money, employing less people.
Whats Olberman talking about now? He spent 5 minutes on this? AAHAHAHAAHAHAA.
He's got NOTHIN!
USVeterans 3 years ago
"Johnson under federal investigation"..
the list of thugs obama does business
with goes on and on and on..
STOP OBAMA NOW..
az101010 3 years ago
then list some
he has friends who hold certain beliefs
ya? so what?
i have friends who do every drug in the book
i do NO drugs
i have friends who drink their pants off
i drink NO alcohol
i have friends who say there is no God
i believe there is
guilty by association is a bunch of bull
supermike109 3 years ago
So, if McCain and Hillary did the same thing it would be called "KKK´s secret salute"? FIX network really needs to be raided and their personnel should be giving forced sex services at Guantanamo.
dblackmamba 3 years ago
No, because their ties to the KKK are non existant. Obama on the other hand, has family ties.
pequisto 3 years ago
"Terrorist fist bump"
Honestly, WHO IN THE BLUE FUCK can watch and back Fox after that and retain their dignity.
ragnarok9899 3 years ago 2
this is crazy.. a fist bump is not a bad what the hell
omarhea1 3 years ago
why r u upset with him? is it personal or his policies. cause his policies are meaningful. im a republican but i like obama ......0bama 08
omarhea1 3 years ago 2
Mccain for place in the Museum 08.
Obama for place in the White House 08.
rbajaj75 3 years ago 5
Instead of calling names about him and his wife, what has he done to hurt YOU or the country to stur up so much anger.
tonchi2a 3 years ago
It's sickening how Fox News veils blatant racism as urgent news that concerns the well-being of our republic. As both human beings and Americans, no matter our political affiliation, we should be disgusted by such diseased, hateful, ignorant thinking.
kalreeve 3 years ago 7
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I'm sickened and disgusted by Barack Obama and his big horse wife.
pequisto 3 years ago
What?
You obviously are out of your mind.
Good luck with that.
VenicDred 3 years ago 2
go drink some more koolaid.
pequisto 3 years ago