its a $6 sng - why are you trying to read opponents that will simply be terrible. dont read deeply at short stacks like that my god. wait til youre playing $400 buy in and maybe then worry about absolute strategy. play the cards!
Bad call. Period. Ive seen a lot of your bad beat vids, and give me a break... you just threw down a bad beat. You just called off around 25% of your stack with 56.
You had the chip lead. Fold there. Pound away on later hands, and pick better spots to play big pots.
@burrirlo Hahaha, you're such a moron. Your post made me laugh sir! So what, good for you that you got sucked out on, it happens to EVERYONE. I turned $30 into $1k in under 4/5months playing part-time, and i have numerous suckouts. My favourite one, AA < 77 on 237 A 7. It happens! Learn to embrace them coz in the end the same happens back for you. You don't think the pros get sucked out on? Only reason you think online is "Rigged" is coz you see MORE hands online, therefore, more suckouts DURR!!
It wasn't a bad call, but I can see why some beginners (or ring game players) might see it as one. Losing keeps him way ahead of opponents, winning ensures him number 2 position in the tournament. With 40% and 3/2 pot odds, you wouldn't be a very good player if you folded in this situation. It would be different of course if it was early on in the tournament or if it was a ring game.
I want to punch Turtle in the face, why does he spend 6 minutes justifying a horrible call. You sir are horrible and are the reason why online poker is a joke.
@Tsager22 this is an idiotic answer... u call just to bust that guy with a hand that maybe is going to be in a 60-40% situation or worst, but he almost will be always at least inna 2 to1 situation, a perfect situation with his stack to gamble. if he wins he is going to win the S&G and if he loose he will reach the money too always. and he still with the chip lead. good call.
If you call with 3 to 2 odds when you are a 3 to 2 underdog AT BEST then you are playing bad poker. The outcome of the hand is not relevant. If the blinds are 30 and 60 and the BB has 1230 at the start of the hand then what is the point of raising to 250 (with 6 high) when you are committing yourself to calling against a shove? Raising to 150-180 should be enough to get the blinds to fold trash without overcommitting yourself to a shove from the BB.
The "poker is rigged" syndrome is caused by playing too many hands postflop. Even if you're tight preflop, a lot of bad players get married to the hand when they hit anything and will bet or call the opponents bets till the river.
If you're unable to lay down hands you'll be surprised at showdown all the time when opponents show you better hands. Really poor players (like retard kids) are unable to realise to realise they're making a mistake to stack off with TPTK and instead talk about rigged
@girlie347 usually people dont say its rigged after the showdown.
I would talk about all in pots where you are huge favorite to win and lose often. Just for the record, im a winning player (people saying losing players say its rigged).
The overpair schould lose to underpair only 1 / 5 times all in.To me it happens in around 1 in 3 times to me in pokerstars. Im keeping a record. Ive seen sick beats, 98 or 96% hands lose when they got all in after flop. Idk if ifs rigged or how, its just weird
i think it's hilarious when people say it's rigged, they more you play the more they make! however i do play blackjack on AP and what i lose the get all of that,so i'm kinda crazy for playing.
he played that hand...got lucky and after he makes a vid on how to play better poker by calculating odds?? bullshit..calling a 1:3 odd on the net is disgraceful...the only thing that made him call is that he knew the players in front of him were weak and he was high stakes...gutsy call that payed but its far from being always that way on the net...god know that this hand could have gone the other way and there would be no video of all this
I would have call also,,,but when he says he will raise every single hand in the heads up there is when I disagree....I think considering his stack advantage I would try to avoid playing big pots so the other guy cannot increase his stack so rapidly,,,,he will need many good hands to beat me if i play tight,,,and try not to give my chips away that easy
sure but it's all about strategy. If you go super loose, your opponent will be forced to call/raise with a longer range of hands, and it'll be easier to pick a good spot. If he's a weak player you'll know when he's got something and you'll get away from the hand. Small ball is perfect in those situation imo. It frustarates your opponent and if you're lucky you get to bust them when they finally make a move on you.
Full tilt is not rigged, why would they rig it and risk their business which is probably the most popular poker website out there? They make millions from this site, and there would be no advantageous reason to rig it for the benefit of other players.
It's normal to go on bad runs and see bad beats, it's all completely random. Everyone remembers the bad beats, but no one remembers to put a bad beat on someone else.
i agree.. i play poker in real life and its completely diferent real life poker involves abilities reads .. chatting... interpretation.. and not luck button pressing and also.... there is something wierd bc i made a calculation on the poker site just to know... and due in real life poker bad beats occurs only 5% of time... in theese sites they occur 47.86% precisely...
I'm gonna have to start off saying the play by you is terrible all-around. In the chip lead and bubbling, you're raising to 250 at the 30/60 blind level with 56s? The aggression isn't the problem, it's the size of your raise. Why would you pot commit yourself with such a dump hand?
You need to put constant pressure on the two small stacks, but put in 2.5x to 3x the bb raises so if you get pushed on you can safely get away from the hand.
I would immediately call. without this calculator rubbish. you are chip leader. you pick up low middle cards suited . you are 200 in, its only a fifth of your stack, if you lose, you would still be chip leader.
Not very fond of that call either, you are just having the right odds if he has 2 overcards 40%, you're just out of them if he has 2 overs that are also hearts (32-35% depending on what). if he has any overpair or 5s or 6s you are a big dog. and in 3 cases you are a 50-50 (2s,3s,4s). overall making that call repetively in similar situations you are going to lose more than you win. the blinds being low (30-60) and having weak players, i d fold and wait for a better spot. but i m the tight kind :)
full tilt calculator, where do u find one of those?
this guys a bit of an idiot, however i think it does show how sometimes when Gus Hansen makes a seemingly crazy move, if you think it through, the odds may not be all that bad/
Having said this, the 'matter of fact' tone of this smarmy turtle is infuriating.
stfu mofos' he is right , 100% , retards they don't know how sofware works on poker online dwd . only 1 website it's 100% skill ( pro software) - pokerstars- , all others have smart software and the only winner it's the website !
what a donky call... ya sure you are 3 to 1 to over cards... but against his entire range you are a huge underdog... u already have the big stack and no one is close to you, when gus made that call with T8 it was agienst the other big stack, and if he won that pot he would have won the tournament, that is why he called
Ok turtle - I like your vids, but try having some where you dont win. You always win in your vids, how about showing the pots where you make a weird call and lose. That'd be a nice change of pace for once. Thanks & keep em comin!
Whether he won that hand or lost it, it was a decent play - so what's your point? Who cares if he one that hand. The point wasn't even whether he won or lost. Jebus.
just to add, this play is otherwise alright because you still dominate chipwise if u lose, and the 'tougher' player still has less than 50% compared to your stack. I don't think there's any need to raise 4BB preflop in that situation though. It gives you a harder decision when they go over the top and net you the same profit if folded to (I'm assuming you prefer to just steal the blinds with those cards).
please dont justify your call by calculating the odds for hands you 'want' to see. mathematically the call is incorrect because AT BEST u get coinflip and ONLY if he has 22,33,44. Otherwise, you're only 3:1 or much worse.
by no means you were committed to call with 56s unless u are sure he has A2, A3, A4, or 22-44, because only then the 2:3 pot odd work with your winning odds. you called it because u have a dominating stack and felt like gambling/feeling lucky to eliminate the tougher opponent
Pokerplum - what Brunson (and others) are saying about suited connectors is that they play well in pots where you can rely on high implied odds. If the money goes in preflop, your implied odds are zero.
It's gr8 that you educate donks. Sng is all about stack control, using your stack and threaten elim.,force players to decisions dont call.This is an unlikely setup in sng, blinds are very low comp. to stacks thats why you dont need to involve 56s;keep your stack solid&if you have the best hand then just put them allin if they raise,they're willing to play for 2nd here; which is why you need the blinds grow and play steel until then&shove the bigger of the 2 stacks every time
The problem is you're never sure he can have anything it's easily 80/20 a lot of the time he's gonna need better pot odds to do this call which I'd never make in a sng anyway. Why's he raising lol. wait for bigger blinds
how fat are you?
leetDAWG 1 week ago
its a $6 sng - why are you trying to read opponents that will simply be terrible. dont read deeply at short stacks like that my god. wait til youre playing $400 buy in and maybe then worry about absolute strategy. play the cards!
RemixEvolution2011 4 months ago
Lol
bekotrollface 5 months ago
crazy call by crazy man
bestpokercoach 6 months ago
I had AA short stack. The big stack called me 85 offsuited . He won.
ApEaZed 8 months ago 5
Bad call. Period. Ive seen a lot of your bad beat vids, and give me a break... you just threw down a bad beat. You just called off around 25% of your stack with 56.
You had the chip lead. Fold there. Pound away on later hands, and pick better spots to play big pots.
IPushHard 8 months ago
i bet he lost the heads up......
aidansparkes12345678 9 months ago
good call considering he was all-in and you had enough chips left!!
hattrickrv 9 months ago
@hattrickrv No .. Bad Call
-He prolly lost the heads up..
TheMaauw 8 months ago
depending on the tournament structure i'd call, let's say it's a triple up, i'm always calling
Taroxus 10 months ago
donk call
justinharker 10 months ago
@burrirlo Hahaha, you're such a moron. Your post made me laugh sir! So what, good for you that you got sucked out on, it happens to EVERYONE. I turned $30 into $1k in under 4/5months playing part-time, and i have numerous suckouts. My favourite one, AA < 77 on 237 A 7. It happens! Learn to embrace them coz in the end the same happens back for you. You don't think the pros get sucked out on? Only reason you think online is "Rigged" is coz you see MORE hands online, therefore, more suckouts DURR!!
mrschmidt13 11 months ago
I like how the text box doesnt show the other players rant as he left..... wouldve been something like "DONKEY CALL!!!"
lessavit 1 year ago
It wasn't a bad call, but I can see why some beginners (or ring game players) might see it as one. Losing keeps him way ahead of opponents, winning ensures him number 2 position in the tournament. With 40% and 3/2 pot odds, you wouldn't be a very good player if you folded in this situation. It would be different of course if it was early on in the tournament or if it was a ring game.
EccEccEccE 1 year ago
So if he flipped aces and you lost, youd still upload this video?
SHELFSIDEYID1882 1 year ago
this moron needs calculator for 56 vs. 44
this is joke... and FTP also
perrinjo 1 year ago
i think his reasoning baited him to make a pretty crazy call but on the other hand he didnt need a whole lot of precentage to make this call
FAlock01 1 year ago
haha. Plus the sit n go is for 6 dollars so why the hell does it matter? 6 minutes analyzing a call thats gonna win you a 26 dollar satellite token?
jkehoe01 1 year ago
ur an idiot for posting this video and spending that much time commenting on it
metalhed189 1 year ago
I want to punch Turtle in the face, why does he spend 6 minutes justifying a horrible call. You sir are horrible and are the reason why online poker is a joke.
Tsager22 1 year ago
@Tsager22 This video is old now and never made a lot of sense. I guess I would want to punch me the face too. ;-)
TurtleKnife 1 year ago 8
@Tsager22 this is an idiotic answer... u call just to bust that guy with a hand that maybe is going to be in a 60-40% situation or worst, but he almost will be always at least inna 2 to1 situation, a perfect situation with his stack to gamble. if he wins he is going to win the S&G and if he loose he will reach the money too always. and he still with the chip lead. good call.
julepeypoker 2 months ago
bad call
brainsbranes 1 year ago
If you call with 3 to 2 odds when you are a 3 to 2 underdog AT BEST then you are playing bad poker. The outcome of the hand is not relevant. If the blinds are 30 and 60 and the BB has 1230 at the start of the hand then what is the point of raising to 250 (with 6 high) when you are committing yourself to calling against a shove? Raising to 150-180 should be enough to get the blinds to fold trash without overcommitting yourself to a shove from the BB.
redondodude58 1 year ago
i dont think its rigged because why would fulltilt want money and im sure u all had ur fair share of suckouts
kid2lucky 1 year ago
The "poker is rigged" syndrome is caused by playing too many hands postflop. Even if you're tight preflop, a lot of bad players get married to the hand when they hit anything and will bet or call the opponents bets till the river.
If you're unable to lay down hands you'll be surprised at showdown all the time when opponents show you better hands. Really poor players (like retard kids) are unable to realise to realise they're making a mistake to stack off with TPTK and instead talk about rigged
girlie347 2 years ago 2
@girlie347 usually people dont say its rigged after the showdown.
I would talk about all in pots where you are huge favorite to win and lose often. Just for the record, im a winning player (people saying losing players say its rigged).
The overpair schould lose to underpair only 1 / 5 times all in.To me it happens in around 1 in 3 times to me in pokerstars. Im keeping a record. Ive seen sick beats, 98 or 96% hands lose when they got all in after flop. Idk if ifs rigged or how, its just weird
budweiser4 1 year ago
if u were going to call the reshove u should have just shoved in the first place
deathmetalhead9 2 years ago
@deathmetalhead9 THIS
betonOPL 1 year ago
everyone will make that call.... u idiot ... its not a crazy call!!!
3 handed 56s is easy call... esp when ur chip leader by far!!
so go fuck ur self!!!
sasanvancouver 2 years ago
22% chance to win is definitely not 3:1 odds.
gimmefivebucks 2 years ago
but its close to 3:1
pedra0r 2 years ago
It's not that far off. 3.5:1 against.
WarnerKrause 2 years ago
its right in the middle: 3,5:1 not so hard to figure out...
strange vid anyway, this guy is explainig a basic standard play for this situation and takes forever...
And wtf has it all to do with gus hanson or sickness?
ihitmydraw 2 years ago
3:1 is 25%
madridisinSpain 2 years ago
yeah, nobody likes math ;)
learntoloose 2 years ago
hi im broke on ftp, would a nice guy send me some dollars to my account: BrownSugarBoobs ?
love jenna
ImTheBiggestFish 2 years ago
No Bitch. Go earn that shit.
monsivais214 2 years ago 20
play live if you think they rig :)
lvln00b50 2 years ago 7
Right call but odd pre-flop play, raise to 250 with blinds at 30/60? That is why you had to make the call from behind.
Exodus199999 2 years ago
i think it's hilarious when people say it's rigged, they more you play the more they make! however i do play blackjack on AP and what i lose the get all of that,so i'm kinda crazy for playing.
normank27 2 years ago
You are sooo long-winded, you couldve cut that video in half.
Anyways, still good information, but speed it up
PokerontheRoad 2 years ago 2
Uh, you seriously suck at poker, and that's why Full Tilt is "rigged."
Nice try, though. Play again. PLEASE play again lol.
brautigan1 2 years ago
he played that hand...got lucky and after he makes a vid on how to play better poker by calculating odds?? bullshit..calling a 1:3 odd on the net is disgraceful...the only thing that made him call is that he knew the players in front of him were weak and he was high stakes...gutsy call that payed but its far from being always that way on the net...god know that this hand could have gone the other way and there would be no video of all this
marcodigi 2 years ago
I would have call also,,,but when he says he will raise every single hand in the heads up there is when I disagree....I think considering his stack advantage I would try to avoid playing big pots so the other guy cannot increase his stack so rapidly,,,,he will need many good hands to beat me if i play tight,,,and try not to give my chips away that easy
popeye135 2 years ago
sure but it's all about strategy. If you go super loose, your opponent will be forced to call/raise with a longer range of hands, and it'll be easier to pick a good spot. If he's a weak player you'll know when he's got something and you'll get away from the hand. Small ball is perfect in those situation imo. It frustarates your opponent and if you're lucky you get to bust them when they finally make a move on you.
nejtilsvampe 2 years ago
good luck at the tables man
ds07uj 2 years ago
Full tilt is not rigged, why would they rig it and risk their business which is probably the most popular poker website out there? They make millions from this site, and there would be no advantageous reason to rig it for the benefit of other players.
It's normal to go on bad runs and see bad beats, it's all completely random. Everyone remembers the bad beats, but no one remembers to put a bad beat on someone else.
Urbura 2 years ago 4
im sick of online poker... im sick of full tilt! ITS RIGGED FOR FCK SAKE!! AND FULL OF IDIOTS
Screamo1818 3 years ago
i agree.. i play poker in real life and its completely diferent real life poker involves abilities reads .. chatting... interpretation.. and not luck button pressing and also.... there is something wierd bc i made a calculation on the poker site just to know... and due in real life poker bad beats occurs only 5% of time... in theese sites they occur 47.86% precisely...
MigueDog 2 years ago
could'nt agree more!
wardaddy08 2 years ago
I'm gonna have to start off saying the play by you is terrible all-around. In the chip lead and bubbling, you're raising to 250 at the 30/60 blind level with 56s? The aggression isn't the problem, it's the size of your raise. Why would you pot commit yourself with such a dump hand?
You need to put constant pressure on the two small stacks, but put in 2.5x to 3x the bb raises so if you get pushed on you can safely get away from the hand.
I'm not that mad. Keep teaching people like this.
travz21 3 years ago
I would immediately call. without this calculator rubbish. you are chip leader. you pick up low middle cards suited . you are 200 in, its only a fifth of your stack, if you lose, you would still be chip leader.
ftp44 3 years ago
if His Ace was a heart you would be fuked up dude!
manutdforevar 3 years ago
totally!!!!! you already lost
Chrischi7777 3 years ago
Not very fond of that call either, you are just having the right odds if he has 2 overcards 40%, you're just out of them if he has 2 overs that are also hearts (32-35% depending on what). if he has any overpair or 5s or 6s you are a big dog. and in 3 cases you are a 50-50 (2s,3s,4s). overall making that call repetively in similar situations you are going to lose more than you win. the blinds being low (30-60) and having weak players, i d fold and wait for a better spot. but i m the tight kind :)
thoma85 3 years ago
full tilt calculator, where do u find one of those?
this guys a bit of an idiot, however i think it does show how sometimes when Gus Hansen makes a seemingly crazy move, if you think it through, the odds may not be all that bad/
Having said this, the 'matter of fact' tone of this smarmy turtle is infuriating.
slipperness 3 years ago
stfu mofos' he is right , 100% , retards they don't know how sofware works on poker online dwd . only 1 website it's 100% skill ( pro software) - pokerstars- , all others have smart software and the only winner it's the website !
Spinuu 3 years ago
LoL i dont know if online poker is rigged im not sure.. but if full tilt is rigged then jokerstars is it too
azzzeee 2 years ago
oh and u only posted this hand because you won... that is not a profitable call at all.
OBTrice42O 3 years ago
what a donky call... ya sure you are 3 to 1 to over cards... but against his entire range you are a huge underdog... u already have the big stack and no one is close to you, when gus made that call with T8 it was agienst the other big stack, and if he won that pot he would have won the tournament, that is why he called
OBTrice42O 3 years ago
you justify your opinion by saying the software is "rigged", yet his justification is the real pot odds... hmmm
pokerdude30894 3 years ago
pwned
kokoth 3 years ago
daviiiid boooowieeeeee
FoGGeRdk 3 years ago
Ok turtle - I like your vids, but try having some where you dont win. You always win in your vids, how about showing the pots where you make a weird call and lose. That'd be a nice change of pace for once. Thanks & keep em comin!
duckhuntchamp 4 years ago 10
Whether he won that hand or lost it, it was a decent play - so what's your point? Who cares if he one that hand. The point wasn't even whether he won or lost. Jebus.
brautigan1 2 years ago
just to add, this play is otherwise alright because you still dominate chipwise if u lose, and the 'tougher' player still has less than 50% compared to your stack. I don't think there's any need to raise 4BB preflop in that situation though. It gives you a harder decision when they go over the top and net you the same profit if folded to (I'm assuming you prefer to just steal the blinds with those cards).
tripledraw 4 years ago 4
please dont justify your call by calculating the odds for hands you 'want' to see. mathematically the call is incorrect because AT BEST u get coinflip and ONLY if he has 22,33,44. Otherwise, you're only 3:1 or much worse.
by no means you were committed to call with 56s unless u are sure he has A2, A3, A4, or 22-44, because only then the 2:3 pot odd work with your winning odds. you called it because u have a dominating stack and felt like gambling/feeling lucky to eliminate the tougher opponent
tripledraw 4 years ago 30
poker 101: put them on a hand that you can beat and call
basaka 4 years ago 7
Pokerplum - what Brunson (and others) are saying about suited connectors is that they play well in pots where you can rely on high implied odds. If the money goes in preflop, your implied odds are zero.
IQlibrium 4 years ago
It's gr8 that you educate donks. Sng is all about stack control, using your stack and threaten elim.,force players to decisions dont call.This is an unlikely setup in sng, blinds are very low comp. to stacks thats why you dont need to involve 56s;keep your stack solid&if you have the best hand then just put them allin if they raise,they're willing to play for 2nd here; which is why you need the blinds grow and play steel until then&shove the bigger of the 2 stacks every time
fanapathy 4 years ago
I guess its just a video tu give a explanation on how is thinking Gus Hansen when he makes his "crazy calls". So goes this label
porcinet22 4 years ago
if these guys are "terribly weak," why would you gamble with 6 high? I will take all your money; I can't wait to find out where you play.
bananaman83 4 years ago
would you call if they are strong?
bladestail 4 years ago
The problem is you're never sure he can have anything it's easily 80/20 a lot of the time he's gonna need better pot odds to do this call which I'd never make in a sng anyway. Why's he raising lol. wait for bigger blinds
fanapathy 4 years ago
banana u r clueless..
LeslieAvenue 4 years ago
woow mate this is something i can learn from. you are a real good odd's calculator.
BigWillStyle123 5 years ago
Ha! Just some of them. Sorry - simply for search engine results...!
TurtleKnife 5 years ago
Why the hell do you label all your videos Gus Hansen?
rand06 5 years ago
Nice videos, man. I always enjoy your analysis.
thehuhu 5 years ago
Quite learning.. thank you :)
d3c3453 5 years ago