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@Komi215 but if your question is "Can you prove that god does not exist?", the answer depends on how you look at it, the religious point of view god definitely does not exist, but the deist P.O.V. is the most possible explanation.
You can consider this irrelevant, but ill state it anyway. A miracle is only a miracle in the eyes of the viewer (except the whole nothing to something, but even that is debatable). Most of the bibles miracles, has not happened anytime AFTER Christ's supposed time.
You say Jesus sacrificed himself for the sins his father (AKA himself) gave humanity (who puts a tree in the middle of a forest and says dont touch it, knowing the inhabitants will touch it anyway (talk about all knowing), that alone proves his a sadist).
The god of the old testament Yahweh, the basis of his acts in the old testament basically describes him as the devil in the new testament, how is that?
@Komi215 So you dont believe that those verses are in the bible?
As I stated before, you are just clinging to a dying idea, the idea that is utterly poisoning humanity (forget christianity, religion in general).
What prof do you want me to provide? that god isisnt real? its very simple, all you need to do is read a history book, and you will see how religion is EVOLVING. Evolving because its man made, hench as stated before, the latter events happened.
@MaxBlight Oooh!! but you gave me proof of existence of my God? You said you were giving proof of his existence and you gave bible verses? Man, how can you lie like that? Aarree yoouu just contradicting yourself, man. How can you be so unreliable?
First, you gave me proof of my God's existence, and now you hurt my feelings by saying you can provide proof of my God's non existence: all I need to do is read a history book, and I'll see religion is evolving plah plah plah - and there's my proof?
@Komi215 lets not forget the fact that basiclaly everything in the bible came from diffirent religion. And the figure head of christianity has the same storyline as Horus. And then theres the other people (who I listed in my previous post). The same goes for its "holy" days (its funny cuz time is actually man made, meaning animals dont give a shit if its 9AM or 10AM).
Please, Think for a second. That is the one thing religion is trying us humans NOT to do.
War would be over instantly should ANY of the millions of gods were to show up. But clearly it hasent happen. Horus, Thor, Odin, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Zeus, etc.
Read a history book (heck, even read the bible), and then THINK.
The god you worship, is basically a racist, sexist, sadist, figure. Unlike you, I can provide profs to my statements.
@MaxBlight aaha!! so you're finally giving proof that my God exists. Well, now, you can move on and find me proofs of other things that I said (such as Hell and Heaven). Good man, I'm sure you can find them too in the same book. You're doing well.
@Komi215 Wrong, the verses I provided does not provide that there is a god, it simply proves that the bible writers have a hidden agenda.
The bible is written by people who wants there evil deeds to be seen as good, after all, whats better? slaughtering for the king or going to a crusade in the name of god?
Soon, the bible will again be revised again, or rather "better translation", and on this one, undoubtedly the verses I provided will diminish or be written more lightly.
The readers of this conversation now knows clearly who the Kid is, LOL. Clearly you have nothing good to reply hench to use the whole "kid get out of my face" expression, you hate the fact that im right, you hate the fact that ive provided facts, and possible theories as to how your religion existed, you just hate that fact.
Continue to cover your ears and say "Lalalala, I cant hear you, Lalalala, I CANT HEAR YOU". Whos the child now?
@MaxBlight Yeah? but guess which kid contradicted himself by giving proofs for existence and non existence of my God? And couldn't defend his position properly when asked. You believe you're smarter than you're, and run around trying to scare people here. At least try to answer the question, if u are asked to count 1,2,3 then count 1,2,3. Don't pretend to be a scholar and talk about numbers instead, for that's the job of a mathematician. You're just a kid with a smart mouth.
The verses does not prove there is a god, it just proves that the writers are evil, but wishes not to be judged for there evil deeds. It is like Charles Manson, who tries to justify his actions by stating "I am Jesus, of the second coming". Or the Pope, trying to protect the pedophilia priest under the church. Need I clarify more?
How bout the king of england, he tries to justify that the crusade is for the name of god. but in reality its just for
@MaxBlight PART A. Know what, you mess up the whole thing, and never know it. You have eyes but cannot see. You actually said:
1) " prof that your god is sadist, racist and sexist?"
2) " What prof do you want me to provide? that god isisnt real? its very simple, all you need to do is read a history book, and you will see how religion is EVOLVING".
Part A: the prof that god is sadist, racist and sexist simply supports my hypothesis, as stated earlier (2x, by yours truly), the reason for the god of the bible to be sadist, racist and sexist is simply to cover up the fact that the people who wrote is, are sadist, racist and sexist.
@MaxBlight PART B: If prof 1) is real then it implies that that god exists. If according to your later claim, that it doesn't prove there is a god, then you contradicted yourself. 4 a proof that X is sadist, racist and sexist is a proof for the existence of X, for how can X have those characteristics if it doesn't exist? If prof 2) is real then it's against the law of logic, for either something exists or it doesn't, for u have given prof 1).
@MaxBlight PART C. And Prof 1) implies the existence of X, and yet prof 2) which is your proof for unreality of X, contradicts Prof 1). In philosophy, you're violating the mighty law of logic and you don't deserve to talk to me for I'm a philosopher with a University degree in philosophy, now doing post graduate studies in philosphy. At Uni. I studied mathematics, logic, economics among others, and i'm too advanced 4 u. Please go away find your level.
First of all, you dont know me, so dont assume your intelligence is higher than mine, that is pure hypocritical (I could go on, and on about my doctrine, but I wont, because research can be done w/out having high education, all one needs is open mind and internet, and a close library).
@MaxBlight PART D. But if Prof 1) is not real then you have no proof in that regard, then why should you continue to provide evidence from the bible to disprove X if you believe the bible is not truthful about what it says. Then we are back at step one, awaiting your proof - that my God doesn't exist without reference to the bible, 4 how can u keep referring to a false source? And if Prof 2) is real then you need to provide sound argument - stating why u think so.
@MaxBlight PART F. Don't tell the other person to go read history books or other sources but present your argument the way I gave you my one. You were the one who insisted on providing proofs, and now you haven't come up with a satisfactory one to prove your point - instead you talk about things that aren't related to answering the question, though it relate to it in a way. I'm willing to go all the way with you, bcause it's a good warm up for me for my next project.
I have answered the question, and the answer is that religion is man made, and the only reason its made, is in order to support the writers evil deeds, and in order to justify their actions", my provided examples just states that the people who use the bible, use it as its meant to be use, and that is to justify their actions.
All you need to do is read about the traditions, and scenarios at the time of the bibles creation.
@Komi215 non-stop killing of someone of other beliefs, and in order to take over other lands.
Still not convince, that the writers used the bible as tool to help further there interest? what about the fact that just recently did the church accept that the Earth is NOT the center of the universe.
You are clinging to a book which states rape, slavery, murder are deeds that are acceptable (but in reality, it is not).
You simply take my comments as "childish", while I provided a valid possible
@Komi215 hypothesis, why the bible is written. A hypothesis that can be supported by simply looking at the pagan traditions back in the days, and how people act back in the DC's.
Face it, im bursting your bubble, and you dont like it.
The reason I keep telling the possible truth, is because, the past is full of hate, the future must move on from hate, and religion is one of those that keeps promoting hate. Nothing less, nothing more.
Ignorance is bliss indeed. Now that I have stated the facts, you choose not to decline, but rather accept it.
"Why should anyone go through pain to give you proof that there is hope for you?" BECAUSE YOU CANT PROVE ANYTHING IN THE BIBLE, you are simply clinging to a book written by people who wanted to do there evil deeds w/out being judge (rape, slavery, murder, etc.).
Your the kind of person who will kill for the prophets, cuz apparently "God" saids so.
Let us raise the bar more right? God use to live atop mount olympus, but we got to the top... LETS RAISE IT, atop the clouds... WE GOT THERE WITH PLANES... lets raise it again... lets put him atop the atmosphere... WE GOT THERE TO. Every freaking place "God lives" we go to, the bar just keeps on raising.
See religious delusional people, all atheist want prof, thats all. When I say prof as in something an-natural, not the doctors healing you after 2 months of rehab.
All you atheists and anti-Christians these Preachers are just doing their job of persuading you to escape the lake of fire, that comes moments after you die. You have no idea of terror of the merciless lake of fire. Repent for the lake of Fire is near you, just under you. You'll find out when you die, but by the time you die it will be too late, so please be suspicious and repent. It's easier to repent than to live. Repent and have peace of mind and eternal life or be miserable then burnt hell.
@Komi215 I specially like the whole I rape your daughter then I buy her from you for 15 gold.
please, stop living in the stone age, just because the holy book you read is scary doesnt mean its true.
Your god is flawed, plain and simple. "All loving god" lol, your god ordered the crusade, let slavery happened, and lets not forget the genocide (some stated that Hitler is christian, but why did he hate jews? is it because Judas is Jewish also?).
@MaxBlight Just wait for your death day and you'll see for yourself the torture. It's not long. Don't bother to give me your opinion, I don't need it.
@Komi215 what? you gonna use the fear card? thats old... way OLD. That only worked in the dark ages when people thought the sun is pulled by a guy on a chariot.
So, if your belief is right, the founders of the USA are all burning in hell now? Majority of the founders were Deist (meaning they dont worship anyone, they acknowledge theres something, just that, that being dont give a shit about prayers).
What if your wrong, thought about that? what if Mohammed is the right child of god?
@MaxBlight Why not, the founders in Hell. Something wrong if that's the truth? Then be it, if he's the child of god. Did I deny any of those? Fear card, old? Is that a problem? Why fear?
@Komi215 Thats a lovely god indeed. guess if hell is real, id rather be there since thats were all the smart people are (Einstein, US presidents, basically 85% of the scientists in history). Cuz thatd mean heaven will be filled by people like Hitler (stated in his bio that his doing gods work), Charles Manson (proclaimed to be the incarnation of Jesus), the people behind the trials in France during the great Guillotine era, the slave owners in the early US (who is doing gods words), and more :D
@MaxBlight You're already there in Hell. Since there is only 'now' in eternity (no past nor future), the only thing left is for you to die and leave this world of space and time, and then you'll realize your wish has always been true - that you'd rather be there with the smart people. If 85% are in Hell? That's close, for the scripture says many will be called but only a few will enter the Kingdom of God. The rest will perish, an everlasting torment .
@Komi215 How is that mocking? I could just as easily say you're mocking me by talking about your Christian god when it's a fact that Zeus is the true god.
@Komi215 Well you're telling atheists to repent. What's wrong with telling YOU to repent? Are you a hypocrite? You can tell others to repent because your god is real, but other people can't tell you to repent because their god is real?
I know that Zeus is a god in Greek mythology. And the Christian god is a god in Arabic mythology. What's the difference?
@ninjajesus81 I tell people who are ignorant of God to repent (that's my job from my God) that they be saved at the hour of their deaths, in case they'd tell God when they die, 'but no one told us about this'. But I did. I now wash my hands. Your blood and their bloods are in your own heads now. As for you, if you think Zeus is the true god and will save you, you go ahead. I'm not here to stop you. I'm here to warn people but not to force them. At the end of the day, it's up to the individuals.
@Komi215 But you told me my god (Zeus) wasn't real. How do you know your god is real and mine isn't? Do you think humanity ever reached a point where we discovered that Zeus and the other Greek gods weren't real? No, of course not. People just slowly stopped believing in that religion until, basically, no one believes it anymore. Your religion will share a similar fate. Your religion is slowly losing members, and those numbers will never go back up, they can only go down.
@Komi215 Simple, your religion failed DRAMATICALLY to provide any visible "miracle", as in growing an arm or the resurrection of the dead. Heck, doubting Thomas got to poke Jesus, why cant WE fuking poke Jesus, or even see his miracles ATM, isisnt he immortal?
What about Heracles (Hercules), Mithradates VI of Pontus, Horus, Beowolf, Zeus, Samson, Perseus, Odysseus, Achilles, AND OTHER more heroes in history who has had the same life story in history, all are similar to Jesus's (plot wise).
@Komi215 Your statement fails, because theres no prof at all. No prof that Hell exist, same as Heaven. And repentence doesnt really show results (unless you count the "afterlife", which again has no prof).
You see what you want to see, hench people who were in near death experience see there god (it also applies to the bloody marry myth, like start chanting the words but think about Barney, and when you open the lights, you WILL SEE BARNEY for a second).
@MaxBlight Oops, you're not ninjajesus. hv just realized that. You're MaxBlight. Ok MaxBlight, who's forcing you against your will? Why bother, If you don't want to repent don't, but a few out there do want to, for they haven't been told. Go eat and drink and enjoy yourself. Why should anyone go through pain to give you proof that there is hope for you?
@Komi215 I just explained it. You called my god fake, yet you have no evidence that it's fake. Yet you completely believe yours is real.
You also don't see the point of me telling you about Zeus when you don't believe in him, but you think it's reasonable to tell people about your god when THEY don't believe in HIM.
@ninjajesus81 You've lied. I called your god fake? Where and when did I say that, where's your evidence to prove that I said that? Yes, you're right I believe my God is real, but I never said yours was not.
What is the point of you telling me about Zeus that I don't see? Who said your god was not real? I told you to believe in your god? Is that not clear to you my friend? What's your problem? What you on about?
@ninjajesus81 You haven't answered my question. Too hard for you? Of course it is. I'm too much for you my friend. Go find your level and talk to them. Run now little one.
@Komi215 Out of the entire discussion we had, you think "how is mythology the same as myth?" is your greatest triumph? You think that's what makes you too much for me? Despite the fact that I had you at the point where you could only respond with "just believe what you want to believe", and now you think you're too much for me? Just because I haven't yet answered how mythology is the same as myth?
Mythology is the study of myths. Derived from the Latin words "mythos" and the suffix "-logy".
@ninjajesus81 This kind of discussion is too much for you to grasp, above your level. Again, I'll make it simple for you. Look at the following staements and see in what way(s) are they the same:
i) Zeus is a god in the Greek mythology.
ii) Zeus is a myth.
No need to have studied logic and philosophy at University level to be able to have a go without ruining the moment, or annoying the expert. Obviously, you can write but definitely cannot provide philosophical arguments. Yours is childish.
@Komi215 YOU (sorry) need to have studied logic and philosophy at University level to be able to have a go without ruining the moment, or annoying the expert. Obviously, you can write but definitely cannot provide philosophical arguments. Yours is childish.
@Komi215 Above my level? You're grasping at straws now. You were the one who wanted to quit this discussion earlier, so just stop.
Calling it Greek mythology is calling it mythology. Just like any other myths that aren't real. What's hard to understand about that?
What philosophical arguments? We're talking about your stupid religion compared to another stupid religion. My argument is childish, yet you're here telling people they're going to Mordor if they don't worship Gandalf.
@ninjajesus81 1) Child, how on earth did u come up with the idea that I was talking to u about comparing religions? Told u you're a pain with a smart mouth, a rabbit with a lion's skin.
I'm here telling people they're going to Mordor if they don't worship Gandalf. Then you jumped in to protest against Mordor & Gandalf being incompatible with your views. Told you go in peace believe in what u believe, u failed to buzz off. Didn't ask 4 your views mate, never needed it.
@ninjajesus81 BTW, the statement 'Zeus is a god in Greek mythology' is correct if there is such thing called Greek mythology, with such thing called 'god' named Zeus in it. There is such thing called Greek mythology and there is such thing called 'god' named Zeus in it. So, the "statement" is correct.
From the "statement", it does not follow that a god named Zeus exists or not, independently of things in and outside of this world.
@ninjajesus81 YOU need to have studied logic and philosophy at University level to be able to have a go without ruining the moment, or annoying the expert. Obviously, you can write but definitely cannot provide philosophical arguments. Yours is childish.
@ninjajesus81 BTW, if you can't answer my question then join your other friend and don't come back and bother me with other nonsense. I have other important things to do.
Why are religious people talking about non-religious people about politics? Anything the Atheists have to say about politics has nothing to do with Atheism.
Religious people propably want to bring the armageddon, so they should never have any say on politics.
it's funny how they change definitions from whats in the bible to make it semi-believable. My dog (Charlie) was also "chosen for greatness" , you can't prove he DIDN"T create the universe... my little buddy can catch a frisby EVERY time i through it, to me, that means he's god, lol, i like jesus but i don't like christians ;)
@OWBWELLS Considering that religious people say that marriage is a union between the couple and god... much. If their god cant even keep together adults that god must indeed be pathetic.
As Paumonsu has indicated he/she/it believes that he/she/it is a descendant of apes. Personally I find that amusing. If he believes it so faithfully, I may as well treat him like a monkey hahaha
Let me make a correction to the highest rated comment. Man=Causer of Wars and Hate. Religion is man made, so how can u blame religion? Man is responsible, don't blame religion. Where is the accountability in this statement.. "religion=causer of wars and hate"? Wake up people!! The truth is out there
@Paumonsu no i just don't believe in this theory of evolution garbage. It is still after all a "theory". By now you'd think it would be called the "Fact of Evolution" But is it called that? No it isn't. The fact is it is still a theory. You know why? Because it can't be proved. There is no evidence.. no proof. And yet people call it scientific. How can it be scientific when science requires evidence or proof?
@M131669 Again and again, you creationist expose yourself as retards.
You don't even know what a theory is. Do you know what is gravity? It's a theory. A theory means a way to explain the observations we have made and we have tested to be correct. Everything in science are Theories, your retarded mind can't even understand what a theory is. Now if you think theories are just science inventions, then start flying since gravity doesn't exist you worthless piece of shit.
@Paumonsu this is what i googled Theory : In science, an explanation or model that covers a substantial group of occurrences in nature and has been confirmed by a substantial number of experiments and observations. ( See Big Bang theory, evolution, and relativity.)
@Paumonsu did u notice in that definition the key word "observances"? How can you physically observe evolution? The definition is a contradiction in itself. What does gravity have to do with this discussion? U question my intelligence? Well I question yours too you fukn monkey.
@M131669 The Theory of gravity is a theory by itself. If you think theories aren't accurate, then start flying.
If you OBSERVE a dead human body on the floor, can you say it was a living being if you've never seen him before? If you see he has a knife stabbed in his back, can you conclude he has been murdered even if you didn't see it? Or no murder happened?
Observation doesn't mean directly seeing things with your eyes. There's millions of fossiles that have been found
@Paumonsu bullshit. Thats exactly what it means. If u cant observe the actual occurrence of evolution happening, then all it really is is speculation. Your example gives the bias implication that the sequence of events leading up to the dead humans bodys end result can only be concluded in murder. But your example is total and utter bullshit.
@M131669 actually gravity is still just a theory.....ummm kid do you have mental problems...if so...take some Ritalin and stop snorting crack off your hickbilly mom's ass
People need to stop using the word "just" when it comes to a scientific theory, and you've clearly misunderstood the term when you say "still just a theory".
In science, you cannot get further than a theory when it comes to explaining something, a theory is the highest order in science.
If its not very well proven, its still just a hypothesis or even an idea.
@hmstr you did not read the context in what i was saying. I was saying "just" in the satirical sense. BTW there is something higher then theory its a law. im not saying the theory of gravity is bad i was using my "just a theory statement" to point out that if something is a theory "in this case evolution" theory does not mean a idea
@BladedArrowTBGamer Nothing in science is higher than theory. Laws and theories in science describe different things. Theories do not become laws if more evidence is provided. It will stay a theory forever.
But there is the theory of evolution and there's the fact of evolution. Evolution happens. That's a fact. The THEORY part of evolution is HOW evolution occurs. We KNOW it occurs, and we're pretty damn sure we know HOW it occurs, but we can never say 100%, so it will always be a theory.
@ninjajesus81 i know that only way something can become a law is if there is 100% proof by mathmatics. So were both right. I wasnt saying how since its a theory it shouldn't be trusted
"A law differs from a scientific theory in that it does not posit a mechanism or explanation of phenomena: it is merely a distillation of the results of repeated observation."
You're wrong. There is no laws when it comes to explaining natural phenomena. What we call laws in scientific terms are the mathematical law that are calculated out of obervations and the laws are merely parts of strengthening the theories.
Yes, there is a law, that everything attracts everything else, and we're pretty sure the reason this happens is by gravity, thus the theory of gravity.
@M131669 No its called the Law Of Gravition. That allows us to calculate gravitys force or interaction between two objects. Why it happens is because of the Theory of Relativity. Before calling other people names just think to yourself "Am I thinking beyond my own intelligence" Perhaps someone smarter than me may read my comment and make me look like an ignorant tit.
@M131669 You can actually build a chain of fossiles that are similar to each other, test their age by different methods, then OBSERVE how they seem to change over time, then CONCLUDE it's a transition between 2 different species.
Go study some science, then some biology, and then you can talk about science. Well, you should start by learning how to solve a simple equation, since your logic is lower than a 3 year old kid.
@Paumonsu your right. I can prolly go down to my local beach and actually build a chain of seashells and call that evolution too. I mean I can OBSERVE the dead sea shells and make conclusions just like you and your bullshit. hahahaha That's the bullshit you believe u fukn monkey.
@Killjeser I second that. Keep your beliefs to yourself and don't shove it down anybody else's throats. If you do that, don't be surprised when people resist and criticize those beliefs.
Pillar of Islam is killing and delivering infidels to Allah or in other words, carrying out violent Jihad against all infidels and Australians unless they submit to Islam. That is what our prophet Mohammad preached and practiced and that is what our greatest scholars preached. Greatest Muslim scholars of recent times were osama bin laden, Dr. Salah Serea and Mohammed Abed Al-Salem. They all preached Jihad and the golden rule of Islam.
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science only applies to our world (dimension)..why do you think scientist cant tell us how we came to be;how everything was created..
because scientist are using science to figure out how we came to be...ppl need to realize that science is used to study gods creation not creation itself.
you cant apply science to god because he is not of this world, this world was created for us.and until ppl realize this (which they never will) u will never know how we were made only a bunch of theories
Jesus doesn't love everyone. I don't know who told you that. Jesus said he did not come to bring peace, but a sword! To divide brother against brother. Those who believe in him will be rewarded those who don't punished it's that easy. God is a choice. I see you refuse God but that's ok cause it's not all about you. Don't get your little feelings hurt.
Wow shove a mike in some assholes hand and all of a sudden they are a complete know it all. Don't sweat it too much cause God doesn't believe in atheist.
God is God. The different of atheist a Religion people only that atheist do not alive his spiritual, just use flesh and soul. Religion people alive their human-spirit. The believer have spiritual experience in their live, if atheist have not. Because God is spirit, who want contact or worship should use their spirit and truth.
HEY GUYS i got answer both sides dont know that god exist on first hand cause god is paranormal like demons,ghosts and angels.Listen i not saying he like them but we never know who created the universe big bang theory or god created it. I dont know what created the universe so i got my life ahead of me to enjoy instead of this debate over religions and hey its my opinion like everyone else here
You do know that the Big Bang theory was theorized by a Catholic priest, right? As a matter of fact, the Big Bang theory was rejected because it was "too religious". So basically, the Big Bang theory is religion disguised as science.
You're welcome. You're right though. No one can say for sure how the universe started. The only way that someone could know is if they were able to witness the universe forming in the beginning.
well thank you. But i have crazy though about how the universe created well what if i told you if god were aliens who has better tech than us that created us the animals and the world or maybe i just over thinking so much in my opinion.
explain that will you boy... are you really that ignorant? im the new prophet and i command you to kill yourself and burn your parents hmmm ok with you? someone you never met telling you to do something? if i get 5 other to tell you its true would you? if science told you the car your parents was driving was unsafe and they would die would you pray? or tell them to get out of the fucking car! man ur dumb
Religion has also contributed alot of good to this war as well. Its just easy to point fingers and use it as a scape goat. if there was no religion then we would have wars over skin color...sumed up there will always b war regardless of christianity
Yes, but religion told you other people who have a different skin color are bad. If there was no religion, then we wouldn't have any wars. We'd just have reality. Everybody would know about evolution, and it'll be fine.
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Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
tigersforchrist 1 week ago
lol kev succeeded in having a similar experience to jesus: he got fucked up.
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WeMakeTheFun 8 months ago
@Komi215 but if your question is "Can you prove that god does not exist?", the answer depends on how you look at it, the religious point of view god definitely does not exist, but the deist P.O.V. is the most possible explanation.
You can consider this irrelevant, but ill state it anyway. A miracle is only a miracle in the eyes of the viewer (except the whole nothing to something, but even that is debatable). Most of the bibles miracles, has not happened anytime AFTER Christ's supposed time.
MaxBlight 9 months ago
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MaxBlight 9 months ago
@Komi215
You say Jesus sacrificed himself for the sins his father (AKA himself) gave humanity (who puts a tree in the middle of a forest and says dont touch it, knowing the inhabitants will touch it anyway (talk about all knowing), that alone proves his a sadist).
The god of the old testament Yahweh, the basis of his acts in the old testament basically describes him as the devil in the new testament, how is that?
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@MaxBlight Waiting for your proof. If you cannot give me it then don't bother waste my time discussing. Done that at Uni.
Komi215 9 months ago
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MaxBlight 9 months ago
@Komi215 So you dont believe that those verses are in the bible?
As I stated before, you are just clinging to a dying idea, the idea that is utterly poisoning humanity (forget christianity, religion in general).
What prof do you want me to provide? that god isisnt real? its very simple, all you need to do is read a history book, and you will see how religion is EVOLVING. Evolving because its man made, hench as stated before, the latter events happened.
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@MaxBlight Oooh!! but you gave me proof of existence of my God? You said you were giving proof of his existence and you gave bible verses? Man, how can you lie like that? Aarree yoouu just contradicting yourself, man. How can you be so unreliable?
First, you gave me proof of my God's existence, and now you hurt my feelings by saying you can provide proof of my God's non existence: all I need to do is read a history book, and I'll see religion is evolving plah plah plah - and there's my proof?
Komi215 9 months ago
@MaxBlight knock knock, are u there? You provide proofs for both the existence and none existence of the same thing. Explain.
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215 lets not forget the fact that basiclaly everything in the bible came from diffirent religion. And the figure head of christianity has the same storyline as Horus. And then theres the other people (who I listed in my previous post). The same goes for its "holy" days (its funny cuz time is actually man made, meaning animals dont give a shit if its 9AM or 10AM).
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@MaxBlight Boohoo!! kids!!! Get lost. Waste my time.
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215
Without prof, your just blabbering gibberish.
Please, Think for a second. That is the one thing religion is trying us humans NOT to do.
War would be over instantly should ANY of the millions of gods were to show up. But clearly it hasent happen. Horus, Thor, Odin, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Zeus, etc.
Read a history book (heck, even read the bible), and then THINK.
The god you worship, is basically a racist, sexist, sadist, figure. Unlike you, I can provide profs to my statements.
MaxBlight 10 months ago
@MaxBlight Give me your proof or I'll say you're just blabbering gibberish.
I'm constantly thinking for I am a philosopher, so don't tell me about thinking.
What good reason should these people show up to stop wars?
I don't need to read anything to understand anything.
The God I worship is the One that you will meet soon enough.
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 prof that your god is sadist, racist and sexist? sure. (Slavery) Exodus 21:7-11, Exodus 21:20-21, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, Luke 12:47-48.
(Sexist) Deuteronomy 22:28-29, euteronomy 22:23-24, 2 Samuel 12:11-14, Deuteronomy 21:10-14 , Judges 5:30, Exodus 21:7-11, Leviticus 20:13.
(Sadist) Exodus 22:17, Exodus 22:19, Deuteronomy 13:13-19, Deuteronomy 13:1-5, 2 Kings 2:23-24, 1Samuel 6:19-20, 1 Kings 20:35-36 , 2 Samuel 6:3-7, Jeremiah 51:20-26, Leviticus 26:21-22, Isaiah 13:15-18 And ALOT MORE.
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@MaxBlight aaha!! so you're finally giving proof that my God exists. Well, now, you can move on and find me proofs of other things that I said (such as Hell and Heaven). Good man, I'm sure you can find them too in the same book. You're doing well.
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215 Wrong, the verses I provided does not provide that there is a god, it simply proves that the bible writers have a hidden agenda.
The bible is written by people who wants there evil deeds to be seen as good, after all, whats better? slaughtering for the king or going to a crusade in the name of god?
Soon, the bible will again be revised again, or rather "better translation", and on this one, undoubtedly the verses I provided will diminish or be written more lightly.
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@MaxBlight Yeah right.! Ahh why don't you too run back to mummy now too!!! and DON'T TALK TO STRANGERS.
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215 LOL, fool! im way older than you.
The readers of this conversation now knows clearly who the Kid is, LOL. Clearly you have nothing good to reply hench to use the whole "kid get out of my face" expression, you hate the fact that im right, you hate the fact that ive provided facts, and possible theories as to how your religion existed, you just hate that fact.
Continue to cover your ears and say "Lalalala, I cant hear you, Lalalala, I CANT HEAR YOU". Whos the child now?
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@MaxBlight Yeah? but guess which kid contradicted himself by giving proofs for existence and non existence of my God? And couldn't defend his position properly when asked. You believe you're smarter than you're, and run around trying to scare people here. At least try to answer the question, if u are asked to count 1,2,3 then count 1,2,3. Don't pretend to be a scholar and talk about numbers instead, for that's the job of a mathematician. You're just a kid with a smart mouth.
Komi215 9 months ago
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MaxBlight 9 months ago
@Komi215 t seems I need to clarify more.
The verses does not prove there is a god, it just proves that the writers are evil, but wishes not to be judged for there evil deeds. It is like Charles Manson, who tries to justify his actions by stating "I am Jesus, of the second coming". Or the Pope, trying to protect the pedophilia priest under the church. Need I clarify more?
How bout the king of england, he tries to justify that the crusade is for the name of god. but in reality its just for
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@MaxBlight PART A. Know what, you mess up the whole thing, and never know it. You have eyes but cannot see. You actually said:
1) " prof that your god is sadist, racist and sexist?"
2) " What prof do you want me to provide? that god isisnt real? its very simple, all you need to do is read a history book, and you will see how religion is EVOLVING".
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215
Part A: the prof that god is sadist, racist and sexist simply supports my hypothesis, as stated earlier (2x, by yours truly), the reason for the god of the bible to be sadist, racist and sexist is simply to cover up the fact that the people who wrote is, are sadist, racist and sexist.
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@MaxBlight PART B: If prof 1) is real then it implies that that god exists. If according to your later claim, that it doesn't prove there is a god, then you contradicted yourself. 4 a proof that X is sadist, racist and sexist is a proof for the existence of X, for how can X have those characteristics if it doesn't exist? If prof 2) is real then it's against the law of logic, for either something exists or it doesn't, for u have given prof 1).
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215 Dumbledore was gay. That doesn't prove he exists. Just saying.
robandre1 9 months ago
@robandre1, I know that. Bye
Komi215 9 months ago
@MaxBlight PART C. And Prof 1) implies the existence of X, and yet prof 2) which is your proof for unreality of X, contradicts Prof 1). In philosophy, you're violating the mighty law of logic and you don't deserve to talk to me for I'm a philosopher with a University degree in philosophy, now doing post graduate studies in philosphy. At Uni. I studied mathematics, logic, economics among others, and i'm too advanced 4 u. Please go away find your level.
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215
First of all, you dont know me, so dont assume your intelligence is higher than mine, that is pure hypocritical (I could go on, and on about my doctrine, but I wont, because research can be done w/out having high education, all one needs is open mind and internet, and a close library).
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@MaxBlight PART D. But if Prof 1) is not real then you have no proof in that regard, then why should you continue to provide evidence from the bible to disprove X if you believe the bible is not truthful about what it says. Then we are back at step one, awaiting your proof - that my God doesn't exist without reference to the bible, 4 how can u keep referring to a false source? And if Prof 2) is real then you need to provide sound argument - stating why u think so.
Komi215 9 months ago
@MaxBlight PART F. Don't tell the other person to go read history books or other sources but present your argument the way I gave you my one. You were the one who insisted on providing proofs, and now you haven't come up with a satisfactory one to prove your point - instead you talk about things that aren't related to answering the question, though it relate to it in a way. I'm willing to go all the way with you, bcause it's a good warm up for me for my next project.
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215
I have answered the question, and the answer is that religion is man made, and the only reason its made, is in order to support the writers evil deeds, and in order to justify their actions", my provided examples just states that the people who use the bible, use it as its meant to be use, and that is to justify their actions.
All you need to do is read about the traditions, and scenarios at the time of the bibles creation.
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@Komi215 non-stop killing of someone of other beliefs, and in order to take over other lands.
Still not convince, that the writers used the bible as tool to help further there interest? what about the fact that just recently did the church accept that the Earth is NOT the center of the universe.
You are clinging to a book which states rape, slavery, murder are deeds that are acceptable (but in reality, it is not).
You simply take my comments as "childish", while I provided a valid possible
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@Komi215 hypothesis, why the bible is written. A hypothesis that can be supported by simply looking at the pagan traditions back in the days, and how people act back in the DC's.
Face it, im bursting your bubble, and you dont like it.
The reason I keep telling the possible truth, is because, the past is full of hate, the future must move on from hate, and religion is one of those that keeps promoting hate. Nothing less, nothing more.
MaxBlight 9 months ago
@Komi215
Ignorance is bliss indeed. Now that I have stated the facts, you choose not to decline, but rather accept it.
"Why should anyone go through pain to give you proof that there is hope for you?" BECAUSE YOU CANT PROVE ANYTHING IN THE BIBLE, you are simply clinging to a book written by people who wanted to do there evil deeds w/out being judge (rape, slavery, murder, etc.).
Your the kind of person who will kill for the prophets, cuz apparently "God" saids so.
MaxBlight 10 months ago
@MaxBlight Ok, now that you insist on proof. We'll do it your way and see if you can prove to me the truth of what you say. Shoot.
Komi215 10 months ago
Komi215 want me to point out the flaws of your religion, the stuff that doesnt makes sense?
MaxBlight 10 months ago
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@MaxBlight It doesn't make sense to you because you're not intelligent enough.
Komi215 10 months ago
Let us raise the bar more right? God use to live atop mount olympus, but we got to the top... LETS RAISE IT, atop the clouds... WE GOT THERE WITH PLANES... lets raise it again... lets put him atop the atmosphere... WE GOT THERE TO. Every freaking place "God lives" we go to, the bar just keeps on raising.
See religious delusional people, all atheist want prof, thats all. When I say prof as in something an-natural, not the doctors healing you after 2 months of rehab.
Dont be Suzie v=vM5n8jESUEk
MaxBlight 10 months ago
All you atheists and anti-Christians these Preachers are just doing their job of persuading you to escape the lake of fire, that comes moments after you die. You have no idea of terror of the merciless lake of fire. Repent for the lake of Fire is near you, just under you. You'll find out when you die, but by the time you die it will be too late, so please be suspicious and repent. It's easier to repent than to live. Repent and have peace of mind and eternal life or be miserable then burnt hell.
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215
Shut up. Go masturbate on your KJV1611 where it tells you to stone rape victims.
radioactiveego 10 months ago
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@radioactiveego On your death bed
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 I specially like the whole I rape your daughter then I buy her from you for 15 gold.
please, stop living in the stone age, just because the holy book you read is scary doesnt mean its true.
Your god is flawed, plain and simple. "All loving god" lol, your god ordered the crusade, let slavery happened, and lets not forget the genocide (some stated that Hitler is christian, but why did he hate jews? is it because Judas is Jewish also?).
MaxBlight 10 months ago
@MaxBlight Just wait for your death day and you'll see for yourself the torture. It's not long. Don't bother to give me your opinion, I don't need it.
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 what? you gonna use the fear card? thats old... way OLD. That only worked in the dark ages when people thought the sun is pulled by a guy on a chariot.
So, if your belief is right, the founders of the USA are all burning in hell now? Majority of the founders were Deist (meaning they dont worship anyone, they acknowledge theres something, just that, that being dont give a shit about prayers).
What if your wrong, thought about that? what if Mohammed is the right child of god?
MaxBlight 10 months ago
@MaxBlight Why not, the founders in Hell. Something wrong if that's the truth? Then be it, if he's the child of god. Did I deny any of those? Fear card, old? Is that a problem? Why fear?
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 Thats a lovely god indeed. guess if hell is real, id rather be there since thats were all the smart people are (Einstein, US presidents, basically 85% of the scientists in history). Cuz thatd mean heaven will be filled by people like Hitler (stated in his bio that his doing gods work), Charles Manson (proclaimed to be the incarnation of Jesus), the people behind the trials in France during the great Guillotine era, the slave owners in the early US (who is doing gods words), and more :D
MaxBlight 10 months ago
@MaxBlight You're already there in Hell. Since there is only 'now' in eternity (no past nor future), the only thing left is for you to die and leave this world of space and time, and then you'll realize your wish has always been true - that you'd rather be there with the smart people. If 85% are in Hell? That's close, for the scripture says many will be called but only a few will enter the Kingdom of God. The rest will perish, an everlasting torment .
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 You're going to Tartarus if you don't repent and ask Zeus for forgiveness.
ninjajesus81 10 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Yep keep laughing and mocking! hhhh! Life is short.
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 How is that mocking? I could just as easily say you're mocking me by talking about your Christian god when it's a fact that Zeus is the true god.
ninjajesus81 10 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Ok, but if u know I was Christian, how can you tell me "repent ask Zeus', when you know that Zeus is god in Greek Mythology?
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 Well you're telling atheists to repent. What's wrong with telling YOU to repent? Are you a hypocrite? You can tell others to repent because your god is real, but other people can't tell you to repent because their god is real?
I know that Zeus is a god in Greek mythology. And the Christian god is a god in Arabic mythology. What's the difference?
ninjajesus81 10 months ago
@ninjajesus81 'Repent' wasn't the point. The point is you tell a non-believer in Zeus to 'repent ask Zeus'. Got it?
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 You're telling non-believers in YOUR god to repent. So you're a hypocrite?
ninjajesus81 10 months ago
@ninjajesus81 I tell people who are ignorant of God to repent (that's my job from my God) that they be saved at the hour of their deaths, in case they'd tell God when they die, 'but no one told us about this'. But I did. I now wash my hands. Your blood and their bloods are in your own heads now. As for you, if you think Zeus is the true god and will save you, you go ahead. I'm not here to stop you. I'm here to warn people but not to force them. At the end of the day, it's up to the individuals.
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 But you told me my god (Zeus) wasn't real. How do you know your god is real and mine isn't? Do you think humanity ever reached a point where we discovered that Zeus and the other Greek gods weren't real? No, of course not. People just slowly stopped believing in that religion until, basically, no one believes it anymore. Your religion will share a similar fate. Your religion is slowly losing members, and those numbers will never go back up, they can only go down.
ninjajesus81 10 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Just believe in what you believe in.
Komi215 10 months ago
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@Komi215 I will, but I was trying to show you how your argument is flawed. Do you see what I'm saying?
ninjajesus81 10 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Ok then, you tell me, in what way is my argument flawed?
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 Simple, your religion failed DRAMATICALLY to provide any visible "miracle", as in growing an arm or the resurrection of the dead. Heck, doubting Thomas got to poke Jesus, why cant WE fuking poke Jesus, or even see his miracles ATM, isisnt he immortal?
What about Heracles (Hercules), Mithradates VI of Pontus, Horus, Beowolf, Zeus, Samson, Perseus, Odysseus, Achilles, AND OTHER more heroes in history who has had the same life story in history, all are similar to Jesus's (plot wise).
MaxBlight 10 months ago
@MaxBlight It's my statements I am asking you about. Tell me about the flawed in the statements I gave you, since you said my argument is flawed?
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 Your statement fails, because theres no prof at all. No prof that Hell exist, same as Heaven. And repentence doesnt really show results (unless you count the "afterlife", which again has no prof).
You see what you want to see, hench people who were in near death experience see there god (it also applies to the bloody marry myth, like start chanting the words but think about Barney, and when you open the lights, you WILL SEE BARNEY for a second).
MaxBlight 10 months ago
@MaxBlight Oops, you're not ninjajesus. hv just realized that. You're MaxBlight. Ok MaxBlight, who's forcing you against your will? Why bother, If you don't want to repent don't, but a few out there do want to, for they haven't been told. Go eat and drink and enjoy yourself. Why should anyone go through pain to give you proof that there is hope for you?
Komi215 10 months ago
@Komi215 I just explained it. You called my god fake, yet you have no evidence that it's fake. Yet you completely believe yours is real.
You also don't see the point of me telling you about Zeus when you don't believe in him, but you think it's reasonable to tell people about your god when THEY don't believe in HIM.
ninjajesus81 9 months ago
@ninjajesus81 You've lied. I called your god fake? Where and when did I say that, where's your evidence to prove that I said that? Yes, you're right I believe my God is real, but I never said yours was not.
What is the point of you telling me about Zeus that I don't see? Who said your god was not real? I told you to believe in your god? Is that not clear to you my friend? What's your problem? What you on about?
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215 You said he was a myth.
ninjajesus81 9 months ago
@ninjajesus81 I said Zeus is a god in the Greek mythology. Tell me, how is that the same as saying "he was a myth"?
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215 So you don't believe he's a myth? Then won't you listen to what I have to say about your afterlife in Tartarus?
ninjajesus81 9 months ago
@ninjajesus81 You haven't answered my question. Too hard for you? Of course it is. I'm too much for you my friend. Go find your level and talk to them. Run now little one.
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215 Out of the entire discussion we had, you think "how is mythology the same as myth?" is your greatest triumph? You think that's what makes you too much for me? Despite the fact that I had you at the point where you could only respond with "just believe what you want to believe", and now you think you're too much for me? Just because I haven't yet answered how mythology is the same as myth?
Mythology is the study of myths. Derived from the Latin words "mythos" and the suffix "-logy".
ninjajesus81 9 months ago
@ninjajesus81 This kind of discussion is too much for you to grasp, above your level. Again, I'll make it simple for you. Look at the following staements and see in what way(s) are they the same:
i) Zeus is a god in the Greek mythology.
ii) Zeus is a myth.
No need to have studied logic and philosophy at University level to be able to have a go without ruining the moment, or annoying the expert. Obviously, you can write but definitely cannot provide philosophical arguments. Yours is childish.
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215 YOU (sorry) need to have studied logic and philosophy at University level to be able to have a go without ruining the moment, or annoying the expert. Obviously, you can write but definitely cannot provide philosophical arguments. Yours is childish.
Komi215 9 months ago
@Komi215 Above my level? You're grasping at straws now. You were the one who wanted to quit this discussion earlier, so just stop.
Calling it Greek mythology is calling it mythology. Just like any other myths that aren't real. What's hard to understand about that?
What philosophical arguments? We're talking about your stupid religion compared to another stupid religion. My argument is childish, yet you're here telling people they're going to Mordor if they don't worship Gandalf.
ninjajesus81 9 months ago
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@ninjajesus81 1) Child, how on earth did u come up with the idea that I was talking to u about comparing religions? Told u you're a pain with a smart mouth, a rabbit with a lion's skin.
I'm here telling people they're going to Mordor if they don't worship Gandalf. Then you jumped in to protest against Mordor & Gandalf being incompatible with your views. Told you go in peace believe in what u believe, u failed to buzz off. Didn't ask 4 your views mate, never needed it.
Komi215 9 months ago
@ninjajesus81 BTW, the statement 'Zeus is a god in Greek mythology' is correct if there is such thing called Greek mythology, with such thing called 'god' named Zeus in it. There is such thing called Greek mythology and there is such thing called 'god' named Zeus in it. So, the "statement" is correct.
From the "statement", it does not follow that a god named Zeus exists or not, independently of things in and outside of this world.
Komi215 9 months ago
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@ninjajesus81 YOU need to have studied logic and philosophy at University level to be able to have a go without ruining the moment, or annoying the expert. Obviously, you can write but definitely cannot provide philosophical arguments. Yours is childish.
Komi215 9 months ago
@ninjajesus81 BTW, if you can't answer my question then join your other friend and don't come back and bother me with other nonsense. I have other important things to do.
Komi215 9 months ago
Oh i was hoping for a fight
Chill197 10 months ago
Religion is a joke and religious people are weak.
MortiisFaust 10 months ago
@MortiisFaust Amen
stoicfan 10 months ago
@MortiisFaust Totally agree.
stoicfan 10 months ago
Why are religious people talking about non-religious people about politics? Anything the Atheists have to say about politics has nothing to do with Atheism.
Religious people propably want to bring the armageddon, so they should never have any say on politics.
bary1234 11 months ago
it's funny how they change definitions from whats in the bible to make it semi-believable. My dog (Charlie) was also "chosen for greatness" , you can't prove he DIDN"T create the universe... my little buddy can catch a frisby EVERY time i through it, to me, that means he's god, lol, i like jesus but i don't like christians ;)
Xcerca 11 months ago
making a religious shock like that could be a danger
TheUndertakerfan15 1 year ago
that dude with the squeaky voice annoyed the fuck out of me. No debate 3 minutes in. Fuck this.
EucharistOfHypnos 1 year ago
what does the divorce rate have to do with anything?
OWBWELLS 1 year ago
@OWBWELLS Considering that religious people say that marriage is a union between the couple and god... much. If their god cant even keep together adults that god must indeed be pathetic.
Atamv 1 year ago
@Atamv you totally lost touch with reality.
OWBWELLS 1 year ago
@OWBWELLS And why is that?
Atamv 1 year ago
Greatness happens after the event... Yes, and we all saw what became of poor Mr Rudd...
mozaks80 1 year ago
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Fuck your god.
iamsagacity 1 year ago
As Paumonsu has indicated he/she/it believes that he/she/it is a descendant of apes. Personally I find that amusing. If he believes it so faithfully, I may as well treat him like a monkey hahaha
M131669 1 year ago
Let me make a correction to the highest rated comment. Man=Causer of Wars and Hate. Religion is man made, so how can u blame religion? Man is responsible, don't blame religion. Where is the accountability in this statement.. "religion=causer of wars and hate"? Wake up people!! The truth is out there
M131669 1 year ago
If God is the perfect Designer, why did he he designed retarded creationists?
Paumonsu 1 year ago
@Paumonsu some ppl would make the same remark about those who think their ancestors were baboons lol U a baboon mate? Wana banana? Hahahaha
M131669 1 year ago
@M131669 Your ignorance is disgraceful
Paumonsu 1 year ago
@Paumonsu no i just don't believe in this theory of evolution garbage. It is still after all a "theory". By now you'd think it would be called the "Fact of Evolution" But is it called that? No it isn't. The fact is it is still a theory. You know why? Because it can't be proved. There is no evidence.. no proof. And yet people call it scientific. How can it be scientific when science requires evidence or proof?
M131669 1 year ago
@M131669 Again and again, you creationist expose yourself as retards.
You don't even know what a theory is. Do you know what is gravity? It's a theory. A theory means a way to explain the observations we have made and we have tested to be correct. Everything in science are Theories, your retarded mind can't even understand what a theory is. Now if you think theories are just science inventions, then start flying since gravity doesn't exist you worthless piece of shit.
Paumonsu 1 year ago
@Paumonsu this is what i googled Theory : In science, an explanation or model that covers a substantial group of occurrences in nature and has been confirmed by a substantial number of experiments and observations. ( See Big Bang theory, evolution, and relativity.)
M131669 1 year ago
@Paumonsu did u notice in that definition the key word "observances"? How can you physically observe evolution? The definition is a contradiction in itself. What does gravity have to do with this discussion? U question my intelligence? Well I question yours too you fukn monkey.
M131669 1 year ago
@M131669 The Theory of gravity is a theory by itself. If you think theories aren't accurate, then start flying.
If you OBSERVE a dead human body on the floor, can you say it was a living being if you've never seen him before? If you see he has a knife stabbed in his back, can you conclude he has been murdered even if you didn't see it? Or no murder happened?
Observation doesn't mean directly seeing things with your eyes. There's millions of fossiles that have been found
Paumonsu 1 year ago
@Paumonsu bullshit. Thats exactly what it means. If u cant observe the actual occurrence of evolution happening, then all it really is is speculation. Your example gives the bias implication that the sequence of events leading up to the dead humans bodys end result can only be concluded in murder. But your example is total and utter bullshit.
M131669 1 year ago
@Paumonsu Im not questioning the theory of gravity u idiot, try and focus on the topic at hand. Throw this fukn monkey another banana
M131669 1 year ago
@M131669 And for your information its called "The Law of Gravity" u fukin idiot.
M131669 1 year ago
@M131669 actually gravity is still just a theory.....ummm kid do you have mental problems...if so...take some Ritalin and stop snorting crack off your hickbilly mom's ass
BladedArrowTBGamer 1 year ago
@BladedArrowTBGamer
People need to stop using the word "just" when it comes to a scientific theory, and you've clearly misunderstood the term when you say "still just a theory".
In science, you cannot get further than a theory when it comes to explaining something, a theory is the highest order in science.
If its not very well proven, its still just a hypothesis or even an idea.
hmstr 1 year ago
@hmstr you did not read the context in what i was saying. I was saying "just" in the satirical sense. BTW there is something higher then theory its a law. im not saying the theory of gravity is bad i was using my "just a theory statement" to point out that if something is a theory "in this case evolution" theory does not mean a idea
BladedArrowTBGamer 1 year ago
@BladedArrowTBGamer Nothing in science is higher than theory. Laws and theories in science describe different things. Theories do not become laws if more evidence is provided. It will stay a theory forever.
But there is the theory of evolution and there's the fact of evolution. Evolution happens. That's a fact. The THEORY part of evolution is HOW evolution occurs. We KNOW it occurs, and we're pretty damn sure we know HOW it occurs, but we can never say 100%, so it will always be a theory.
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@ninjajesus81 i know that only way something can become a law is if there is 100% proof by mathmatics. So were both right. I wasnt saying how since its a theory it shouldn't be trusted
BladedArrowTBGamer 1 year ago
@BladedArrowTBGamer Theories and laws describe two different things.
"A law differs from a scientific theory in that it does not posit a mechanism or explanation of phenomena: it is merely a distillation of the results of repeated observation."
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@ninjajesus81 thx for clearing that up for me.
BladedArrowTBGamer 1 year ago
@M131669
You're wrong. There is no laws when it comes to explaining natural phenomena. What we call laws in scientific terms are the mathematical law that are calculated out of obervations and the laws are merely parts of strengthening the theories.
Yes, there is a law, that everything attracts everything else, and we're pretty sure the reason this happens is by gravity, thus the theory of gravity.
hmstr 1 year ago
@M131669 No its called the Law Of Gravition. That allows us to calculate gravitys force or interaction between two objects. Why it happens is because of the Theory of Relativity. Before calling other people names just think to yourself "Am I thinking beyond my own intelligence" Perhaps someone smarter than me may read my comment and make me look like an ignorant tit.
BinaryCrunch 1 year ago
@M131669 You can actually build a chain of fossiles that are similar to each other, test their age by different methods, then OBSERVE how they seem to change over time, then CONCLUDE it's a transition between 2 different species.
Go study some science, then some biology, and then you can talk about science. Well, you should start by learning how to solve a simple equation, since your logic is lower than a 3 year old kid.
Paumonsu 1 year ago
@Paumonsu your right. I can prolly go down to my local beach and actually build a chain of seashells and call that evolution too. I mean I can OBSERVE the dead sea shells and make conclusions just like you and your bullshit. hahahaha That's the bullshit you believe u fukn monkey.
M131669 1 year ago
@Paumonsu Your ignorance is even more disgraceful
M131669 1 year ago
There is nothing to debate. Whatever religion you believe leave it at home and away from schools.
Killjeser 1 year ago 28
@Killjeser I second that. Keep your beliefs to yourself and don't shove it down anybody else's throats. If you do that, don't be surprised when people resist and criticize those beliefs.
gir908922 1 year ago
@Killjeser Yeah that's a good point, and away from politics.
stoicfan 10 months ago
Whether or not religion causes war and hate is irrelevant to the truth of such a world view.
Mesmeridicus 1 year ago
@Mesmeridicus so war is an acceptable side effect of truth? what a loving religion. Also you must prove it to be true.
NightHawkBomber001 1 year ago
Pillar of Islam is killing and delivering infidels to Allah or in other words, carrying out violent Jihad against all infidels and Australians unless they submit to Islam. That is what our prophet Mohammad preached and practiced and that is what our greatest scholars preached. Greatest Muslim scholars of recent times were osama bin laden, Dr. Salah Serea and Mohammed Abed Al-Salem. They all preached Jihad and the golden rule of Islam.
samgee2007 1 year ago
google Doe's Account.
Kingkalty 1 year ago
just respct each others beliefs
its their life you dont have anything to do with it if you dont belive in god then dont
if you belive then believe just wait until one of these two parties get wrong
NotepadBoy09 1 year ago
is dude in the red hat a hobbit? he sounds like a hobbit and looks like he distributes salted pork
FTWyousuck 2 years ago
This guy has a fixation on lord of the rings
14greg14 1 year ago
Science is the way dude. It'll make you smarter and have a wider perspective of life.
I am my own person
Over and out.
WushuKnight19 2 years ago 3
The bible proves all science actually
14greg14 1 year ago
hahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!
memully 1 year ago
@14greg14 'All science'. Not really, it doesn't explain astrophysics, rocket science, quantum mechanics etc.
Perilix 1 year ago
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science only applies to our world (dimension)..why do you think scientist cant tell us how we came to be;how everything was created..
because scientist are using science to figure out how we came to be...ppl need to realize that science is used to study gods creation not creation itself.
you cant apply science to god because he is not of this world, this world was created for us.and until ppl realize this (which they never will) u will never know how we were made only a bunch of theories
bladeofwoe19 2 years ago
a scientific theory is fact
funny how you comment on peoples knowledge of science when you dont know the difference between theory and scientific theory
also your argument is stupid
your bassically saying because science cant give you all the answers therefor god did it
wrong
slamt08 2 years ago 3
matter from one dimension cant interact with another one
so bible gone
nothing cant turn into something our creation from god GONE
and a super collider is will disprove all theisim in 2011 so GTFO
micprn 2 years ago
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eat and drink the FLESH and BLOOD of JESUS...
be washed in the BLOOD of the LAMB
let the BLOOD of JESUS
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hustlandflow21 2 years ago
Jesus doesn't love everyone. I don't know who told you that. Jesus said he did not come to bring peace, but a sword! To divide brother against brother. Those who believe in him will be rewarded those who don't punished it's that easy. God is a choice. I see you refuse God but that's ok cause it's not all about you. Don't get your little feelings hurt.
astropeck123 2 years ago
Wow shove a mike in some assholes hand and all of a sudden they are a complete know it all. Don't sweat it too much cause God doesn't believe in atheist.
astropeck123 2 years ago
God doesn't believe in anything cause he doesn't exist.
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago 2
And that's your POOR choice, hopefully you'll change your mind b4 you're gnashing your teeth
14greg14 1 year ago
so which of your conflicting mottos is true??
Jesus loves EVERYONE?
OR God doesn't believe in atheistS.
IT CANT BE BOTH
qkslvrrx8 2 years ago
jeez australia has crazy fundies too?...makes me just a little less embarrassed to be american
pem82sox 2 years ago 2
Lmao.
ashman102 2 years ago
the smacking sound he makes when he talks is so freaking annoying
michaelbrandonmcgee 2 years ago
What do you mean by god...?
IfYouTrulyBeliev3 2 years ago
God is God. The different of atheist a Religion people only that atheist do not alive his spiritual, just use flesh and soul. Religion people alive their human-spirit. The believer have spiritual experience in their live, if atheist have not. Because God is spirit, who want contact or worship should use their spirit and truth.
BodeHaryanto 2 years ago
what?
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
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Check out David Pawson if you care about your faith in Yeshua Messiah.
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Nabs07 2 years ago
Weak debate using spiritual faith and non spiritual faith as metaphors. Very silly!
stevenmiles 2 years ago
Atheist club.. I want one.
PaperClippersable 2 years ago
HEY GUYS i got answer both sides dont know that god exist on first hand cause god is paranormal like demons,ghosts and angels.Listen i not saying he like them but we never know who created the universe big bang theory or god created it. I dont know what created the universe so i got my life ahead of me to enjoy instead of this debate over religions and hey its my opinion like everyone else here
Saffroncreature 2 years ago
@Saffroncreature:
You do know that the Big Bang theory was theorized by a Catholic priest, right? As a matter of fact, the Big Bang theory was rejected because it was "too religious". So basically, the Big Bang theory is religion disguised as science.
BlackNerd91 2 years ago
sry but idk about that info. I say that we dont know what or who created the world here in my opinion but thank you for telling that now BlackNerd91
Saffroncreature 2 years ago
@BlackNerd91
You're welcome. You're right though. No one can say for sure how the universe started. The only way that someone could know is if they were able to witness the universe forming in the beginning.
BlackNerd91 2 years ago
well thank you. But i have crazy though about how the universe created well what if i told you if god were aliens who has better tech than us that created us the animals and the world or maybe i just over thinking so much in my opinion.
Saffroncreature 2 years ago
explain that will you boy... are you really that ignorant? im the new prophet and i command you to kill yourself and burn your parents hmmm ok with you? someone you never met telling you to do something? if i get 5 other to tell you its true would you? if science told you the car your parents was driving was unsafe and they would die would you pray? or tell them to get out of the fucking car! man ur dumb
macutchi 2 years ago
who? what catholic priest?
lyargutten 2 years ago
@lyargutten Georges Lemaitre. He was a Belgian Roman Catholic priest, a physics professor, and a astronomer.
BlackNerd91 2 years ago
Religion has also contributed alot of good to this war as well. Its just easy to point fingers and use it as a scape goat. if there was no religion then we would have wars over skin color...sumed up there will always b war regardless of christianity
ico1 2 years ago
Yes, but religion told you other people who have a different skin color are bad. If there was no religion, then we wouldn't have any wars. We'd just have reality. Everybody would know about evolution, and it'll be fine.
KashaiSakur 2 years ago