Wouldnt this be a better example of reverse spherification ? In a normal spherification calcium is added to the liquid then submerged into an alginate bath. This also helps eliminate the slimy taste of the alginate since it gets washed off once the shell is formed.
This is very cool. For those of you looking for the chemicals to try this out. Search on Amazon.com for "Molecular Gastronomy". There are many kits to choose from
the principle is that the CaCl2 dissolves in divalent Ca2+-cations which substitutes the monovalent Natrium-cations. this results in the formation of complexes between the alginates. so the method should work for calcium phosphate as well
ok i only wan someone who knows what they are talking about to reply to this. If using a calcium rich solution for reverse sphereification in which the calcium rich solution (i.e. milk or olive puree) goes into an alginate solution. how strong in mg/L does the calcium solution need to be?
cant it be the other way arownd? what happens if the liquid you use... for example chocolate milk, has calcium in it... you put the sodium alginate in the liquid and im guessing something happens... please answer
I very much doubt that would work. Milk has calcium phosphate, not calcium chloride. I don't know exactly how the chemistry works in this reaction, but having just any sort of calcium (or sodium) shouldn't do much. It would be like putting salt (sodium chloride) in milk and expecting this reaction.
You're actually right. If you put algin into milk or any other calcium rich fluid, it will start gelling. There is a process called reverse, or inverse spherification in which you put your' calcium based fluid into an alginate solution to form a skin. Search "inverse spherification" on the web and you'll find plenty of science and recipes to back this up.
It will just look like caviar and has the same texture (is that what you mean?) but will taste like something else (carrot/passionfruit/gaspacho/etc). Thats the whole point of the wow-factor
nice simple and straight to the point. I've made the caviar and ravioli before, but i have a question. Do you find that the alginate imparts a chemical kind of taste to the solution? should i try to compensate by adding something to the liquid? or maybe it's the type of alginate i've purchased, either way i'd love to hear back from you. Again cheers and well done.
ive found the same thing. but you dont taste it on the ravioli. my algin bath goes a bit funny aswell, the alginate seems to sink the the bottom and goes to a funky goo, is it supposed to happen? and also how long do the algin baths last for?
This looks great, and seems surprisingly simple compared to the wow-factor. I would like to try it myself, but cant seem to find out where to buy the ingredients - can anyone help me?
For any English people wondering about the translation...
natriumalginat = sodium alginate
calciumlactat = calcium lactate
pLuteusArts 4 months ago 2
Wouldnt this be a better example of reverse spherification ? In a normal spherification calcium is added to the liquid then submerged into an alginate bath. This also helps eliminate the slimy taste of the alginate since it gets washed off once the shell is formed.
p3tedauer 8 months ago
Thank you for eliminating your future children.
epSosDE 8 months ago
How does a guy find the ingredients? Sodium alginate?
What good does the video do if I can't find the ingredients?
spacemooseable 8 months ago
but are these solid all the way through or is it just the surface that sets? Isn't agar a better alternative?
lordkelvin1 9 months ago
Japanese candy uses teh same chems. It's really cool!
PrettyTigerlilly 10 months ago
This is very cool. For those of you looking for the chemicals to try this out. Search on Amazon.com for "Molecular Gastronomy". There are many kits to choose from
sdwoodfo 11 months ago
hey! good info... how long can you keep the caviar at room temperature? or in the fridge?
galo405 11 months ago
2:09 looks like you're weighing cocaine.
SEHANO 1 year ago
where did you get this scale?!
i want the same
Poohoo15 1 year ago
Can it be stored? how? How long?
mexicanbonez 1 year ago
@mexicanbonez yes, i usually submerge it in olive oil/good for perserving usually itll last 2 to 3 days
quakov 1 year ago
Where can i get the syringe and handmixer? Also where can i get Natriumalginat and Calciumlactat?
heyMaRiElA7 1 year ago
interesting, thank you!
zagatbuzz 1 year ago
can you use liquids like fruit purees? Or are those too granulated?
nkip9230 1 year ago
the principle is that the CaCl2 dissolves in divalent Ca2+-cations which substitutes the monovalent Natrium-cations. this results in the formation of complexes between the alginates. so the method should work for calcium phosphate as well
AgentDark87 1 year ago
Just plain Phenomenal!!!! Thank you for this excellent post.
skills1ent 1 year ago
you could also cryovac the soloution which would get rid of any air.
royalbyname 1 year ago
Love it Love it ...... Great video I'm going to make it , thanks so much
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mariebreska 1 year ago
thanks so much great and easy video ..... I'm going to make it all the best ,
Marie Breska
mariebreska 1 year ago
I also read that it depends on the water density as for which basic sferical or reverse that is needed to be used.
Onexpresso 1 year ago
Yes, I am wondering if I can use coconut milk or pineapple, chocolate ....I know you can use coffee or rosewater from the videos.
Onexpresso 1 year ago
could you please tell me what fruits can be used? i tried strawberry and it just broke apart, i think its because of its acidity.
r3never 1 year ago
REALLY WANNA TRY THIS!!!!! But where do I get the chemicals?
wvwarrrior 1 year ago
will this work with any liquid, alcholalic, basic, well the orange juice is acidic.
chefmusicmoto 2 years ago
I saw one done with a alcholalic included with something else.
Onexpresso 1 year ago
ok i only wan someone who knows what they are talking about to reply to this. If using a calcium rich solution for reverse sphereification in which the calcium rich solution (i.e. milk or olive puree) goes into an alginate solution. how strong in mg/L does the calcium solution need to be?
jkentsuperman182 2 years ago
cant it be the other way arownd? what happens if the liquid you use... for example chocolate milk, has calcium in it... you put the sodium alginate in the liquid and im guessing something happens... please answer
tieneespinaselrosal 2 years ago
I very much doubt that would work. Milk has calcium phosphate, not calcium chloride. I don't know exactly how the chemistry works in this reaction, but having just any sort of calcium (or sodium) shouldn't do much. It would be like putting salt (sodium chloride) in milk and expecting this reaction.
kirane11 2 years ago
Well I did see a custard one gelified and something done with coconut milk?
Onexpresso 1 year ago
You're actually right. If you put algin into milk or any other calcium rich fluid, it will start gelling. There is a process called reverse, or inverse spherification in which you put your' calcium based fluid into an alginate solution to form a skin. Search "inverse spherification" on the web and you'll find plenty of science and recipes to back this up.
teamsleazy 2 years ago
This is really cool. And it tastes just like caviar?
mohammad112388 2 years ago
Of course it won't taste like fish eggs...
It will just look like caviar and has the same texture (is that what you mean?) but will taste like something else (carrot/passionfruit/gaspacho/etc). Thats the whole point of the wow-factor
mcblommestijn 2 years ago
Lol, ok just wondering. Looked like something fun to make.
mohammad112388 2 years ago
nice simple and straight to the point. I've made the caviar and ravioli before, but i have a question. Do you find that the alginate imparts a chemical kind of taste to the solution? should i try to compensate by adding something to the liquid? or maybe it's the type of alginate i've purchased, either way i'd love to hear back from you. Again cheers and well done.
Sub7er 2 years ago
ive found the same thing. but you dont taste it on the ravioli. my algin bath goes a bit funny aswell, the alginate seems to sink the the bottom and goes to a funky goo, is it supposed to happen? and also how long do the algin baths last for?
TheMiffter 2 years ago
This looks great, and seems surprisingly simple compared to the wow-factor. I would like to try it myself, but cant seem to find out where to buy the ingredients - can anyone help me?
tobiasknudsen 3 years ago 5
look in the internet ...
just look in google i already found some things
lyssi229 3 years ago 4
Google 'El Bulli Texturas'
Its a fantastic product range!
mcblommestijn 2 years ago
@tobiasknudsen you can use agar agar, which is easier to find
Legacyjackass 1 year ago
@tobiasknudsen pharmacy
arahel 1 year ago
danke
lyssi229 3 years ago
gerne
pflanze42 3 years ago
how much does several mean ?!
lyssi229 3 years ago 3
depends on how much air has been mixed into the solution. Ideally there should be no more bubbles in the solution.
pflanze42 3 years ago
@pflanze42 or you can just heat it
RossArsenalFan4Life 6 months ago