If someone walks up to me and starts poking me with a stick, I may be angry and want to fight him. That seems like an instinctive response. If I believe that I should not be angry, then I may stop myself from acting on my anger. In that case I'm not fighting him, I am fighting myself.
If you want to be compassionate to others, that's great. Just remember to be compassionate to yourself too because they may not be compassionate in return. Every one has a breaking point.
Let us just remember that William was quite fond of Greg. Sometimes William would open rooms and I'd come in and it would just be him and Greg talking about various issues. I imagine one of the things William appreciated was Greg's honesty about what he believes regardless of what other people think, even when they were opposed to Williams own beliefs. This was also one of the reasons I happened to love Will. We may not like his take of Williams passing but I respect his right to have it.
This isn't about his 'right' to have an opinion. It's about his lack of tact or concern for the people who gave a shit about Will. I know him and Will used to chat a lot but I'm quite sure William would consider his video in poor taste and that's for lack of a better term at the moment. Everyone has the 'right' to say what they want, but we learn in kindergarten that just because you *can* do something it doesn't me you *should*
@Sarahon06 I understand. I totally get where you're coming from and really this is one of those issues I don't even want to debate or discuss.I was only hoping to pacify the situation. I also cared a great deal for William and I just wanted any negativity resulting from his passing to end. Coincidentally, William never seemed to care much for what was 'in good taste' or toning his views down in order to be sensitive to others. I f*@#ing loved him for it. You all can fight if you want.
None of us are interested in toning down our views are we? If we think we are right we will fight for them. I find your comment amazingly condescending. I can fight if I want? Thanks for the permission. I will.
@Sarahon06 Apologies. I didn't mean for anything I said to be interpreted as condescension. I also cared deeply for William. Not a day has gone by that I haven't felt this. It just makes my skin crawl to think that his passing has turned into a "youtube beef" involving people he cared about. I would have hoped to see people coming together rather than arguing about who is grieving appropriately and whose reflections on the "meaning" of his death are acceptable/unacceptable. Peace and Love.
That was my hope with this video actually. And the message behind it, but people like you keep saying really insulting shit. Like describing Greg's video as a reflection on the meaning of Will's death? I don't want to argue with you about this but if you can't figure out that certain things are simply inappropriate then just stop commenting here.
I didn't watch his original tribute to William. I can say this though. I know Richard. I'm certain he wasn't twitching his mustache and thinking "This will be a huge money maker mowahahahahaaa." I can say from personal experience he has twice the god damn character of Brett Keane. Not that that says much.
You know what? I hadn't noticed. Now that you mention it though Brett *did* put ads on his video. I'll admit that does rub me the wrong way. Is that something a partner can disable? I've never had a partnership so I have no idea.
I'm not sure how this happened. You're explaining shit to *me* now and I didn't even ask about this? lol I have to say though when this guy says " he made to that fundie asshole who was capitalising on the death of someone for his own.. wait.. this is sounding familiar" I know that wasn't your intention because I know you, but this guy did just logic fuck me a little and I don't want to have to explain this shit. *snickers*
Oh SHIT! Will's dead? I used to be subbed to him. He was such an intelligent lad. I had a few good conversations with him on stickam.
Now, I just found out, half an hour ago, that one of my close friends tried to kill herself last 2 days ago. We tried contacting her, but couldnt. She's in hospital recovering.
After watching this video and listening to your story of Will, I had a good cry and the lesson that Will taught you, I am glad you were generous enough to share it, because it is very important - more people need to hear it and learn from it. I will try to remember that always. Thank you.
Sarahon, this is a great video. Sometimes I feel like I have 'the stick' and really need the strength to just put it down myself, or have someone take it from me. Will was wise beyond his years, many times over, and I consider myself a better person for having known him. Your willingness to share his wisdom means a lot to me. Thank you, friend.
Re: your closing - this is so not a horrible video. I was challenged and inspired by your story of your conversations with William and moved by your emotion and your "Fuck you" was completely warranted! Fantastic video.
I have been watching a shit ton of videos about William, mostly tribute videos and the like.
I didn't know him well but I was subscribed to him and watched all his videos, he was a very gifted individual.
Just one thing ....
Why has nobody (even in video comments) said just how angry they are at how he could do something so selfish and cruel to the ones that loved and cared for him?
He left them all behind to suffer the pain he surely was aware that his actions would cause!
I have thought about that actually. At the end of the day it was his choice to make. I mean I'm sure there is a lot of anger but where are you going to put it? What's the point ?
"What is the point? You idiots are going to start a new trend! Don't question it, because it was just a choice?"
Oh, but I DO question it. Nearly every moment of every day. Do you? Or is your reaction a blank 'NOOOOOO!' that has no consideration of it whatsoever?
Yes because that is exactly what I said and this has *everything* to do with the fact that I don't think your god is real. You remain one of the most ignorant and deluded people I've ever had the displeasure of speaking to. Please just fuck off.
Nor does she. By the time she clicks the *post* button it's too late. She's already typed her comment with little memory of what was said or what it's impact may have been.
@Sarahon06 Will was my best friend... I knew him personally. I followed a link to a tribute video via his facebook and it greatly pains me to see comments like that.
Thank you so very much for sharing your story. It made me chuckle... that was so Will. God, I miss him so much.
@secularheathen It is very rational, especially right now, to commit suicide. If you're angry with him, then be angry at yourself. And then accept yourself. And while this sounds like a bunch of feel-good mumbo-jumbo... well, this is your grieving, so do what you need to do. Ignore everyone and grieve. That's what the living need to do when another living is suddenly gone.
@SomethingSea1, How can you say it is rational to commit suicide? What makes it more rational at this time?
People say he was suffering from depression, but no one is talking about how dangerously medications can lead a depressed person it suicide is. It is like, we must all get on meds for every little thing, but can't see how that is making things worse.
"People say he was suffering from depression, but no one is talking about how dangerously medications can lead a depressed person it suicide is."
And no-one talks about DMT or weed and how they're are considered equivalent with heroin. And how while those are demonized, we happily pop anti-depressants into our mouths and drink alcohol. That's a tad depressing, yeah? Yeah.
"It is like, we must all get on meds for every little thing, but can't see how that is making things worse."
Clearly, we do. Otherwise, why are we both saying the same thing? However, are you willing to go the next step? I and others have answers that I think are at least halfway decent. Will you listen?
@secularheathen When someone commits suicide there's always a ripple of gossip that whispers "it's very selfish isn't it?". I've personally heard it twice for two separate people. I think that the people who say that are either hiding some kind of guilt / jealousy or are simply not thoughtful enough to 'put themselves in the dead person's shoes'. To ask a person "why can't you go on suffering your unbearable pain... for our sakes!?" is kinda selfish. Anyway, how can we know. Peace and love.
I didnt know him but my condolences Sarahon06, from what I heard he was a good lad and from your story a very wise man, beyond his years. Keep your head up.
I remember seeing Will on stickam many times, though he probably wouldn't remember me. He was a good guy with a sharp wit and good sense of humor. I'll definitely miss having him around...I always knew it was going to be an interesting conversation when I saw him in the "room".
Great story . I spent the many years listening and watching Will on Stickam and Youtube both as a Christian and then as an Agnostic and Atheist. He was one of many that stood strong and inspired me later to make a song in support of equal rights for Homosexuals. RIP Will.
I heard about what happened at work today. I think i cried for the first time in years. i will miss him dearly, and anyone who knew him will miss him.
great video, sarahon. I know we've clashed in stickam a few times, but it was great to see you in the room last night. So many people showed up. For me, it was truly great to see just how many lives William touched. I know for me, he challenged me as well as strengthened my faith - even though he disagreed. And that shows something. I hope all of us can start hanging out again despite our differences, it just sux it took the his death for us to get to this point. God bless!
WoW Sarahon. My heart just aches for you hun. I know you and Will were close. What a great story though!! I actually learned from listening to it just now. Once you have the stick, there is no need to beat people with it. I get that. I am going to make sure i think abut that anytime I am attacked by anyone. (verbally or on chats and whatnot). God bless you Sarahon. You and Williamcardno were always my favorite atheists :) Much love and peace to you. ♥
While his death meant nothing to me, I was pissed off at the fucking videos like that aimed at Will's death, Honestly I'd only condone doing the same in return just to see the hypocritical rage from the theist side of things and hope a few were struck by the immense irony of their outrage.
Definitely not a horrible video. A wonderful video in fact.
A very touching moment for you to share, thank you. Especially interesting to me, because I remember a time where he may not have encouraged such restraint.
That lesson, the one he passed on to you, was probably hard learned.
He was very good at showing people, teaching people, how to see what he had learned.
I find myself incredibly glad, that this lesson is being passed on. :)
That sounds like something I would say shortly before farting above Greg's dinner plate. "Thousands of people want to do this but the difference between them and me is tact."
@Sarahon06 my condolences to your lost, and since I missed out on this wonderful person while he was alive I will check his legacy he left here on youtube.
Well said, and better tact then me about it. But then again...for me I have little patience for such monsters...though maybe I will try to take a page from Cardno from now on.
I share your frustrations and sentiments. I didn't know William - I didn't watch any of his content 'till I saw various tributes, but now that I've looked through some of his stuff, I can see that he was a valuable human being, Much more so than this Greg.
I can't really put into words how I feel about his death. I'm always taken aback and forced to look at my own condition in a broader sense when faced with mortality. I suppose all we can do is keep on truckin' as best we can.
The tribute videos to William have utterly trumped the vid by that tiny Whiny malcontent! May he rest in peace. God knows there isnt much fucking peace to find in this world!
No, this was a good video Sarahon- I'd barely heard of the man till now. Which is a shame, he sounded like a truly nice guy :( I'm going to go check out his videos now, seriously.
I only knew William from a few comments here and there and watching him. He was actually one of my earliest subscribers. I really regret not getting to know him better.
If any of you hate this new bullshit design: type in /home after worldwideweb dot youtube dot com and you can FOR NOW change your channel design back to the old one in the settings tab.
sounded like Will about the homo-part,i started to giggle a bit.,i knew him like 2years or so.i saw his tweets/FB status around 18nov,i commented at once
You would think the great and compassionate being would be more concerned with stopping suffering than metering out punishments to those who have suffered greatly to the point the no longer wished to live. His video is vile much like the bible written by bronze age men who made rules consistent with their own unsophisticated morality and lack of knowledge of the natural world. Greg's video was distasteful and disturbing - he needs to take a good hard look at himself in the mirror.
Hugs to you man. Thanks for dropping by the memorial. I hope it helped as it did I and many others. Will was instrumental as well to me in looking at things differently. I think for some of the christians who adored Will, his passing will and should have a profound effect on some of their beliefs. Even in his death he will be taking away sticks.
Will was the epitome of cool. Normally, I'm not that impressionable. But from the first Cardno video I saw, I was hooked. Whatever "it" is, he had it — and in abundance. In a sea of often irrational rationalists, he'd come out of nowhere and support me or completely own a topic of debate. I regret, mostly, leaving this community years ago and not getting to know him better. But even from my more limited experiences, he was truly unforgettable and one of a kind.
William was awesome, we talked about music mostly. It's indeed amazing that he has affected so many diverse people here on youtube. It says a lot about him and it's a damned shame that most of us don't tell people how important they are to us while they're here. Might not change anything, but who knows? He will be missed. Even I made a pissed off ranty vid, which I usually don't do. Great vid as usual Sarahon.
I wonder if God could makes us a special hell for unpleasant chubby people we have our buddy Greg, Jerry Falwell, Tony48219, and Brett Keane. It would be nice if they could spend eternity somewhere eating healthy snacks and doing situps.
Somewhat surprised by the conversation that has developed regarding William.
To give voice to the interloper Greg seems to avoid the real issue.
I see many of the non-religious users on the tube speaking of their sorrow as if they are addressing messages to William. The use of RIP is also somewhat puzzling.
He is not resting in peace. He selfishly chose cowardice that resulted in his oblivion.
Needless suicide is a much more important subject in light of William's tragic decision.
What a stupid thing to bother pointing out. "life matters" of course it does. To each of us in a different capacity. I honestly don't give a fuck if his choice was what you would call "selfish." It wasn't yours to make. If we all made decisions based on how everyone else felt, most of us would be miserable sacks of shit. I'm not angry at Will. He lost a battle that I've never had to fight. Nonexistence can be rather peaceful if I remember it correctly.
@MyGodTheresNoGod I think the point is it doesnt matter what he did at the time of his death but what he did in life up until that point. People that cared about him and were his friends want to remember him for the things we was talented at and what he'd said.
Well theres a cause for his actions, obviously thats not going to come out of certain circles for personal reasons. But it werent wasted if Sarahon06 learnt something form what he said or vogter2100 liking his guitar.
@FletchRDG cont. his guitar riffs. This what people are concentrating on and well deserved to.
His decision doesnt matter, its been decided nothing can change that. But I think we need to respect his life and not question his death, not right now at least. Respecting other peoples feelings and emotions, people need time to grieve. Questions like that can only light up hatred and anger.
I don't think so. Is it not possible that not existing is less painful than existing? I am not indifferent to his decision. A part of me *is* angry but it was his life not mine. I have no idea what he was going through so it's hard to put my own feelings first.
@Sarahon06 Well said more or less how I feel I am not angry, but I have lost a great ally and friend and it will be a setback for my life. I think its the ultimate expression of it being your life by giving it up just as the ultimate expression of freedom is to take another's life. Not saying either is a good idea but how much more can you claim this is my life to do what i want with it than to kill one's self.
"You said nonexistence can be rather peaceful. What delusional notion."
If life is hell, so what? Better no-feeling then agony.
"To be peaceful is to assert consciousness."
Ah, so you have not considered those other possible ways of thinking about this... That might explain a bit. Although, not really: "coward" and "selfish".
"William wasted that which is most precious"
His life is not yours. Get your hands off it, please.
Isn't it ironic that it's called Comitting suicide? Strange cognitive dissonance that people have.
"he selfishly disregarded many of those who he left to deal with his action."
I find this a rather disturbing way to look at it. Have you thought that, perhaps, it might be that 'those who he left to deal with his actions' might have been part of the reason he did it? Are you going to 'blame the victim'?
"You, like many seem indifferent to his decision."
I am one of those who are not. For too long I have stayed silent on this subject and let people mindlessly demonize suicide, judging the person who "committed it" about as harshly as a theist judges an atheist.
"Is it taboo to talk of the dead like this?"
Let's make it less so.
"Don't worry, he's not listening."
That's quite the assertion. Can we prove it either way? No? Then how do you know?
"He selfishly chose cowardice that resulted in his oblivion."
I find it interesting that suicide in this mindset is always referred to as "selfish" and "cowardly". It is his obligation to others to live? What a way to live!
"Needless suicide is a much more important subject in light of William's tragic decision."
Needless suicide? You can make a value statement about William committing suicide? Is that not judgmental?
This man is lucky to have people like you, who knew him, to pick up his torch and shame the assholes who are cowardly enough to take a jab at a dead person.
There appear to be two camps concerning Mr.Cardno. Those that seem to think he is some fallen star and others who think he was more like an asteroid that plowed into their lives and destroyed them. I wonder how one man came be both things. I have heard it said that people who apparently knew things and did not like him are afraid to say, because he's dead and they don't to appear callous. Because your dead, does not erase your past deeds.I say, spill ur guts, the dead don't give a shit.
@PaulineTriage Drama fix? Nah... I just hate pretension... not that this video is, but so many are... it's so drool... Cardno was no saint, and I know plenty of people who will tell you just how he pitch forked their ass.
@Elenkhos Yeah, but you could say that about anybody here. Hashing it out before he's even cold isn't really necessary. There's a reason "too soon" is a meme. Sometimes it really is just too soon. Any people he cocked over will be coming out of the woodwork to complain soon enough.
I cried my eyes out when I watched this. This has changed my whole way of thinking about when people attack. Thank you for sharing some wisdom from William. As long as each of us remembers him.. he will still live. That's how people become immortal after all... they live in our minds and our hearts. Thank you Sarahon.
I saw your comment on his channel and wondered what you meant. Take the stick-what wise advise. Thank you for sharing that story.
I visited his channel and watched some of his vids, and listened to some his music, and I watched many fine tribute vids from his friends. I feel so sad for all y'all who lost a good friend, and a little sad for myself. I never knew Will. I wish I had.
Moving video man. I never knew William, and when Greg said he was William's friend, i never knew what to think about the video (whether to respect it or not).
I didn't have the fortune of knowing your friend, but I'm glad you did. Who knew I'd enjoy a eulogy by sarahon even more than i enjoy pwnage from sarahon?
I love you man. Great video, wise words.... you expressed it beautifully. I did not have the stomach or the patience to make a video to him but I wanted to in the worst way. Gregs video filled me with so much anger and disgust I could not find the words to respond. Thank you for being you.
See, if I took a stick from someone and then did to them what they were doing to me, it'd be to force them to empathize. Like this: /watch?v=DQxHcwrw7JI
Not certain why so many videos are being made which are tying Williams death to an object/person of his distain. I don't get the reaction. And I, for one, personally don't want to see Williams legacy ... the last echo of his legacy to be tied to hate.
Pardon me Sarahon but this video seems ironic. In that Will's story is once you get the stick you've won, and yet the future search for Cardno is a stab back video.
I just don't understand. Love this vid, just don't understand it's production.
@LeathermanFan2 Expecting someone to stick around merely so you don't have to cry and be sad about them gone is the most selfish things anyone could do. People don't exist merely for the happiness of others.
"Earn sympathy" You are a fucking moron.
The theme is suicide because despicable cunts like you make like unbearable for anyone who doesn't fit YOUR status quo.
Sarahon, you are not alone. I miss Will, and I am sad that I wasn't a better friend toward the end. I knew he was going through a lot, and maybe I could've done more. Who knows? But what I do know is that Will was a great guy with a big heart, and anyone who really knew him knew that he was one of the good ones. Don't apologize for your emotions, you're not alone. Fuck anyone that says hateful things about him, they aren't worth your time, and definitely not worthy of commenting on William.
I'm not ashamed to say this made me tear up, and I seriously regret not knowing this person better before this happened. He sounds like he was a truly solid character. :(
After watching Coughlan's response I felt better, but I knew it wasn't the response William would have made. Thank you so much for bringing him to life again for a brief moment in this video. I will greatly miss his insights, especially since I lost the opportunity to build a stronger friendship with him because I worried I wasn't insightful enough to be his friend. How fucking dumb is that. You never know the opportunities you've miss until it's too late...
"I worried I wasn't insightful enough to be his friend."
Yeah I've felt that way before but I think you were wrong there :P You're fairly awesome ya know :P in my not so humble opinion. And you're most welcome.
Very good video. I knew will well from my time chatting on stickam and Greg's video actually physical sickned me. Will is not hell nor this man have any clue about his own theology. I remember stuff about do not judge but thats me. Greg just seems to want attention and he has now got it well woop dee doo. I hope he is happy I certainly am not.
If someone walks up to me and starts poking me with a stick, I may be angry and want to fight him. That seems like an instinctive response. If I believe that I should not be angry, then I may stop myself from acting on my anger. In that case I'm not fighting him, I am fighting myself.
If you want to be compassionate to others, that's great. Just remember to be compassionate to yourself too because they may not be compassionate in return. Every one has a breaking point.
RakaTheTenacious 2 months ago
@RakaTheTenacious
Or to put it more eloquently: watch?v=reIaLP1qY0M
RakaTheTenacious 2 months ago
Let us just remember that William was quite fond of Greg. Sometimes William would open rooms and I'd come in and it would just be him and Greg talking about various issues. I imagine one of the things William appreciated was Greg's honesty about what he believes regardless of what other people think, even when they were opposed to Williams own beliefs. This was also one of the reasons I happened to love Will. We may not like his take of Williams passing but I respect his right to have it.
TheWhoMe123 2 months ago
@TheWhoMe123
This isn't about his 'right' to have an opinion. It's about his lack of tact or concern for the people who gave a shit about Will. I know him and Will used to chat a lot but I'm quite sure William would consider his video in poor taste and that's for lack of a better term at the moment. Everyone has the 'right' to say what they want, but we learn in kindergarten that just because you *can* do something it doesn't me you *should*
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@Sarahon06 I understand. I totally get where you're coming from and really this is one of those issues I don't even want to debate or discuss.I was only hoping to pacify the situation. I also cared a great deal for William and I just wanted any negativity resulting from his passing to end. Coincidentally, William never seemed to care much for what was 'in good taste' or toning his views down in order to be sensitive to others. I f*@#ing loved him for it. You all can fight if you want.
TheWhoMe123 2 months ago
@TheWhoMe123
None of us are interested in toning down our views are we? If we think we are right we will fight for them. I find your comment amazingly condescending. I can fight if I want? Thanks for the permission. I will.
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@Sarahon06 Apologies. I didn't mean for anything I said to be interpreted as condescension. I also cared deeply for William. Not a day has gone by that I haven't felt this. It just makes my skin crawl to think that his passing has turned into a "youtube beef" involving people he cared about. I would have hoped to see people coming together rather than arguing about who is grieving appropriately and whose reflections on the "meaning" of his death are acceptable/unacceptable. Peace and Love.
TheWhoMe123 1 month ago
@TheWhoMe123
That was my hope with this video actually. And the message behind it, but people like you keep saying really insulting shit. Like describing Greg's video as a reflection on the meaning of Will's death? I don't want to argue with you about this but if you can't figure out that certain things are simply inappropriate then just stop commenting here.
Sarahon06 1 month ago
I hate that the only thing I can ever think to say in comments to your videos are inane truths like "Well done", or "Great video".
It's all that's required, of course, but you deserve more.
I think I need to contribute more to life now. I don't want to have a funeral like the one Greg Monroe is destined for.
rnistuk 2 months ago
He did?
Shit I thought i'd turned my webcam off.
DrJReefer 2 months ago
@whataballache
I didn't watch his original tribute to William. I can say this though. I know Richard. I'm certain he wasn't twitching his mustache and thinking "This will be a huge money maker mowahahahahaaa." I can say from personal experience he has twice the god damn character of Brett Keane. Not that that says much.
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@whataballache
Youtube advertising is contextual, I think. I don't know if one can choose to have a specific ad on one's channel.
geffel 2 months ago
In living colour!
geffel 2 months ago
@whataballache
You know what? I hadn't noticed. Now that you mention it though Brett *did* put ads on his video. I'll admit that does rub me the wrong way. Is that something a partner can disable? I've never had a partnership so I have no idea.
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@Sarahon06 I didnt out ads on the Willaim Tribute video i uploaded on my 000 channel for the reason that i didnt want to sully the video.
I dont see a problem with them being on the 616 video as it isnt really about william although he is mentioned
Coughlan000 2 months ago
@Coughlan000
I'm not sure how this happened. You're explaining shit to *me* now and I didn't even ask about this? lol I have to say though when this guy says " he made to that fundie asshole who was capitalising on the death of someone for his own.. wait.. this is sounding familiar" I know that wasn't your intention because I know you, but this guy did just logic fuck me a little and I don't want to have to explain this shit. *snickers*
Sarahon06 2 months ago
Does anyone know how I can get in touch with, or should I get in touch with, Pheobus3309, so that I can tell him how sorry I am about william.
Mamberuon 2 months ago
Oh SHIT! Will's dead? I used to be subbed to him. He was such an intelligent lad. I had a few good conversations with him on stickam.
Now, I just found out, half an hour ago, that one of my close friends tried to kill herself last 2 days ago. We tried contacting her, but couldnt. She's in hospital recovering.
Domzdream 2 months ago
After watching this video and listening to your story of Will, I had a good cry and the lesson that Will taught you, I am glad you were generous enough to share it, because it is very important - more people need to hear it and learn from it. I will try to remember that always. Thank you.
Subbed.
SuperMassiveAtheist 2 months ago
Sarahon, this is a great video. Sometimes I feel like I have 'the stick' and really need the strength to just put it down myself, or have someone take it from me. Will was wise beyond his years, many times over, and I consider myself a better person for having known him. Your willingness to share his wisdom means a lot to me. Thank you, friend.
reflectionist 2 months ago
Very poignant video. My sympathies for the loss of your friend.
If you are upset with that greg video check this one out.
Christianity in all its truth.
/watch?v=AmYifQgLp3s
parallelsdumaurier 2 months ago 3
Re: your closing - this is so not a horrible video. I was challenged and inspired by your story of your conversations with William and moved by your emotion and your "Fuck you" was completely warranted! Fantastic video.
Elaina43 2 months ago
I have been watching a shit ton of videos about William, mostly tribute videos and the like.
I didn't know him well but I was subscribed to him and watched all his videos, he was a very gifted individual.
Just one thing ....
Why has nobody (even in video comments) said just how angry they are at how he could do something so selfish and cruel to the ones that loved and cared for him?
He left them all behind to suffer the pain he surely was aware that his actions would cause!
WHY???
secularheathen 2 months ago
@secularheathen
I have thought about that actually. At the end of the day it was his choice to make. I mean I'm sure there is a lot of anger but where are you going to put it? What's the point ?
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@Sarahon06, "oh well, it was his choice to kill himself" WTF?
What is the point? You idiots are going to start a new trend! Don't question it, because it was just a choice?
Let me just quote Shock..."This is the madness of Atheism!"
sablechicken 2 months ago
@sablechicken And at the end of the day it was still his choice. Sod off.
danieljliversLXXXIX 2 months ago
@sablechicken
"What is the point? You idiots are going to start a new trend! Don't question it, because it was just a choice?"
Oh, but I DO question it. Nearly every moment of every day. Do you? Or is your reaction a blank 'NOOOOOO!' that has no consideration of it whatsoever?
Consider death now.
watch?v=ElKuBhheNE8
SomethingSea1 2 months ago
@sablechicken
Yes because that is exactly what I said and this has *everything* to do with the fact that I don't think your god is real. You remain one of the most ignorant and deluded people I've ever had the displeasure of speaking to. Please just fuck off.
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@sablechicken I don't understand what Atheism has to do with this.
candied 2 months ago
@candied
Nor does she. By the time she clicks the *post* button it's too late. She's already typed her comment with little memory of what was said or what it's impact may have been.
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@Sarahon06 Will was my best friend... I knew him personally. I followed a link to a tribute video via his facebook and it greatly pains me to see comments like that.
Thank you so very much for sharing your story. It made me chuckle... that was so Will. God, I miss him so much.
candied 2 months ago
@candied
These people are small. As hard as it is to ignore them, you know who he was. Sorry for your loss as well.
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@secularheathen Justifying my self pity by blaming a victim will get me nowhere.
AxiomofDiscord 2 months ago
@secularheathen It is very rational, especially right now, to commit suicide. If you're angry with him, then be angry at yourself. And then accept yourself. And while this sounds like a bunch of feel-good mumbo-jumbo... well, this is your grieving, so do what you need to do. Ignore everyone and grieve. That's what the living need to do when another living is suddenly gone.
SomethingSea1 2 months ago
@SomethingSea1, How can you say it is rational to commit suicide? What makes it more rational at this time?
People say he was suffering from depression, but no one is talking about how dangerously medications can lead a depressed person it suicide is. It is like, we must all get on meds for every little thing, but can't see how that is making things worse.
sablechicken 2 months ago
@sablechicken
I would prefer not to talk with you. I'll perhaps talk some, but I know the likely result, and I do not look forward to it.
"How can you say it is rational to commit suicide?"
That requires a lengthy explanation for a theist, and even that's a stretch. But, to go the opposite direct, we could go with,
'because committing suicide brings you to God.'
Yes, I know the counter-arguments against that to destroy it. If you'd like to go that direction, please do so without me.
SomethingSea1 2 months ago
@sablechicken
"What makes it more rational at this time?"
Economic collapse making for a hellish future.
"People say he was suffering from depression, but no one is talking about how dangerously medications can lead a depressed person it suicide is."
And no-one talks about DMT or weed and how they're are considered equivalent with heroin. And how while those are demonized, we happily pop anti-depressants into our mouths and drink alcohol. That's a tad depressing, yeah? Yeah.
SomethingSea1 2 months ago
@sablechicken
"It is like, we must all get on meds for every little thing, but can't see how that is making things worse."
Clearly, we do. Otherwise, why are we both saying the same thing? However, are you willing to go the next step? I and others have answers that I think are at least halfway decent. Will you listen?
SomethingSea1 2 months ago
@secularheathen When someone commits suicide there's always a ripple of gossip that whispers "it's very selfish isn't it?". I've personally heard it twice for two separate people. I think that the people who say that are either hiding some kind of guilt / jealousy or are simply not thoughtful enough to 'put themselves in the dead person's shoes'. To ask a person "why can't you go on suffering your unbearable pain... for our sakes!?" is kinda selfish. Anyway, how can we know. Peace and love.
McPrfctday 2 months ago
Thank you.
Divinity33372 2 months ago
After this video I feel like going to rainymood and listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd -"simple man" at the same time.
Leadman1989 2 months ago
Never saw his videos until today and thanks for that. My condolences.
gir908922 2 months ago
This kind of stuff really freaks me out. I never understood why people do that. I'm gonna go watch something that makes me happy.
Joekitty001 2 months ago
I didnt know him but my condolences Sarahon06, from what I heard he was a good lad and from your story a very wise man, beyond his years. Keep your head up.
FletchRDG 2 months ago
I remember talking to Will. I was trying to explain why value was subjective. He wasn't getting it, but he wasn't unpleasant about it.
fringeelements 2 months ago
@MrNo0nekares
I'm safe.
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@MrNo0nekares
I don't think you will ;)
Sarahon06 2 months ago
Absolutely brilliant.
I feel sad that I never really got to know him. He sounds like a wonderful person if he managed to touch everyone in such a way.
You pwned Greg with class.
InvincibleNumanist 2 months ago
@MrNo0nekares
I love me shitty videos too! LOL!11 It's been a busie day OMG watch this!1
/watch?v=4TcNtks4exs
Sarahon06 2 months ago
This is an amazing video and it really made me think. I never knew or even saw his videos but now i wish i did.
HonestMuhammad 2 months ago
I remember seeing Will on stickam many times, though he probably wouldn't remember me. He was a good guy with a sharp wit and good sense of humor. I'll definitely miss having him around...I always knew it was going to be an interesting conversation when I saw him in the "room".
roentgen571 2 months ago
Great story . I spent the many years listening and watching Will on Stickam and Youtube both as a Christian and then as an Agnostic and Atheist. He was one of many that stood strong and inspired me later to make a song in support of equal rights for Homosexuals. RIP Will.
xxxMST3Kxxx 2 months ago
I heard about what happened at work today. I think i cried for the first time in years. i will miss him dearly, and anyone who knew him will miss him.
shishiromura 2 months ago
God teaches us to hate one another. Am I right? Thought so.
GodlessManitoban 2 months ago
ah yes, the stick removal technique.. most sublime.. definitely a winner.
SkidRowRadio 2 months ago
great video, sarahon. I know we've clashed in stickam a few times, but it was great to see you in the room last night. So many people showed up. For me, it was truly great to see just how many lives William touched. I know for me, he challenged me as well as strengthened my faith - even though he disagreed. And that shows something. I hope all of us can start hanging out again despite our differences, it just sux it took the his death for us to get to this point. God bless!
CoffinBuilder89 2 months ago
It wasn't a horrible video at all. It was honest, that's all that matters
Domanharp 2 months ago
WoW Sarahon. My heart just aches for you hun. I know you and Will were close. What a great story though!! I actually learned from listening to it just now. Once you have the stick, there is no need to beat people with it. I get that. I am going to make sure i think abut that anytime I am attacked by anyone. (verbally or on chats and whatnot). God bless you Sarahon. You and Williamcardno were always my favorite atheists :) Much love and peace to you. ♥
galaxydreams2 2 months ago
this is why u are my fave youtuber sarahon take care man
velourkungen 2 months ago
I really thought this video is a classic. For as a man thinks so he is.
RepresentingTruth 2 months ago
Horrible video?! Bull, fantastic video. Your level of honesty made it so.
fulishproductions 2 months ago
Sarahon, I always feel I am a better person after watching your videos. Thanx, man.
ChunxOfEarth 2 months ago
miss you will
southmcl 2 months ago
Dude that was an awesome video !
giasou55 2 months ago
it's true about taking the stick away... That's what niggering is... Man i am glad you told that story, it really brings me happiness.
How did it happen? He was SO FUCKING YOUNG. It just seems crazy for a kid of 23 or so to die.
WorthlessLoser8 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
i would have never known about this if it wasnt for all the videos about william, thank you.
lepthymo 2 months ago
Will was an awesome guy. It's really upsetting that he is gone. Grab Gregs stick, run around the room with it, and tie it to his leg.
TokenDrone 2 months ago
Beautifull video my friend. Im uploading my memorial video at the moment.
Vogter616 2 months ago
While his death meant nothing to me, I was pissed off at the fucking videos like that aimed at Will's death, Honestly I'd only condone doing the same in return just to see the hypocritical rage from the theist side of things and hope a few were struck by the immense irony of their outrage.
Darkfirebrand 2 months ago
Definitely not a horrible video. A wonderful video in fact.
A very touching moment for you to share, thank you. Especially interesting to me, because I remember a time where he may not have encouraged such restraint.
That lesson, the one he passed on to you, was probably hard learned.
He was very good at showing people, teaching people, how to see what he had learned.
I find myself incredibly glad, that this lesson is being passed on. :)
PurpleGhost 2 months ago
And now sarahon is crying and I'm heartbroken.
HelloPhixy 2 months ago
Gregs video make me sick.
I haven't been so angry in a long time. I didn't know William but all the videos
makes me wish I did.
HelloPhixy 2 months ago
Greg's views are shared by billions.
The only difference is tact.
AlmightyAtheismo 2 months ago
@AlmightyAtheismo
That sounds like something I would say shortly before farting above Greg's dinner plate. "Thousands of people want to do this but the difference between them and me is tact."
Sarahon06 2 months ago 2
I spoke with him on stickam a few times. He niggered about 15% of his n-word, certainly made progress on it. Seemed like a good guy...
It's a shame to see he has died so young. :( I'm sorry for everyone's loss.
WorthlessLoser8 2 months ago
@Sarahon06 my condolences to your lost, and since I missed out on this wonderful person while he was alive I will check his legacy he left here on youtube.
gilgameshismist 2 months ago
Well said, and better tact then me about it. But then again...for me I have little patience for such monsters...though maybe I will try to take a page from Cardno from now on.
wolfwing1 2 months ago
Honest video, that's more like it. As someone who has not seen his videos before, I take this as a damn good recommendation.
RakaTheTenacious 2 months ago 2
I share your frustrations and sentiments. I didn't know William - I didn't watch any of his content 'till I saw various tributes, but now that I've looked through some of his stuff, I can see that he was a valuable human being, Much more so than this Greg.
I can't really put into words how I feel about his death. I'm always taken aback and forced to look at my own condition in a broader sense when faced with mortality. I suppose all we can do is keep on truckin' as best we can.
scottie0904 2 months ago
No, it is a good video for us today.
BlowDevilUp 2 months ago
william saw you( cumming )
troller2010 2 months ago
@troller2010
Everyone did. I forgot my camera was still on. Can I live it down now please?
Sarahon06 2 months ago
Horrible video? No, I think this was an amazing video. Will would have been proud of it.
TheLaughingOut 2 months ago 2
The tribute videos to William have utterly trumped the vid by that tiny Whiny malcontent! May he rest in peace. God knows there isnt much fucking peace to find in this world!
TheAvaloth 2 months ago
I'm so sorry for your loss, thanks for sharing a small part of him with those of us who didn't know him. *hugs*
sheri226 2 months ago
No, this was a good video Sarahon- I'd barely heard of the man till now. Which is a shame, he sounded like a truly nice guy :( I'm going to go check out his videos now, seriously.
Fir3bird23 2 months ago
I only knew William from a few comments here and there and watching him. He was actually one of my earliest subscribers. I really regret not getting to know him better.
abaddon5 2 months ago
And: Excellent video. Wonderful sentiment.
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bamboo4tameshigiri 2 months ago
Thanks now I have to explain these tears in my eyes to my roommate
fullygodfullyhuman 2 months ago
Excellent words, man...William will be missed. :(
fruitikay 2 months ago
sounded like Will about the homo-part,i started to giggle a bit.,i knew him like 2years or so.i saw his tweets/FB status around 18nov,i commented at once
--i'm worried Will,i'm here for you.
thnx for sharing this Sarahon
IceysMoment 2 months ago
Eloquent as ever. More moving than ever.
He has a weak brain and a narrow mind.
atthetopofmyvoice 2 months ago
You would think the great and compassionate being would be more concerned with stopping suffering than metering out punishments to those who have suffered greatly to the point the no longer wished to live. His video is vile much like the bible written by bronze age men who made rules consistent with their own unsophisticated morality and lack of knowledge of the natural world. Greg's video was distasteful and disturbing - he needs to take a good hard look at himself in the mirror.
midas41 2 months ago
Hugs to you man. Thanks for dropping by the memorial. I hope it helped as it did I and many others. Will was instrumental as well to me in looking at things differently. I think for some of the christians who adored Will, his passing will and should have a profound effect on some of their beliefs. Even in his death he will be taking away sticks.
ModernDeism 2 months ago
@ModernDeism
Is was great. I had the chance to tell his parents exactly what I thought of their son and what he meant to me. That was definitely worth it.
Sarahon06 2 months ago
Will was the epitome of cool. Normally, I'm not that impressionable. But from the first Cardno video I saw, I was hooked. Whatever "it" is, he had it — and in abundance. In a sea of often irrational rationalists, he'd come out of nowhere and support me or completely own a topic of debate. I regret, mostly, leaving this community years ago and not getting to know him better. But even from my more limited experiences, he was truly unforgettable and one of a kind.
Nocturnous 2 months ago
If I weren't already subscribed, this would've tipped the balance. Well done.
OxTheWriter 2 months ago
Excellent video Sarahon. You really showed how Will was able to communicate and change people's way of thinking about things.
SisterSunshineTV 2 months ago
William was awesome, we talked about music mostly. It's indeed amazing that he has affected so many diverse people here on youtube. It says a lot about him and it's a damned shame that most of us don't tell people how important they are to us while they're here. Might not change anything, but who knows? He will be missed. Even I made a pissed off ranty vid, which I usually don't do. Great vid as usual Sarahon.
feakysnucker 2 months ago
*hugs you tightly* powerful truth, my dear friend.and, i am so very sorry for the loss of your good friend.
jakluk4 2 months ago
@jakluk4
*hugs back*
Thanks and grats to you as well ;)
Sarahon06 2 months ago
Awesome tribute Sarahon. I can still hear Will's voice when you told your story.
cvjucla3 2 months ago
Fucking hell, this video hit close to home for me in some aspects. I'm not a subscriber but thanks for this video. Sorry for your loss man.
tpstar 2 months ago
Wtf? WilliamCardno was gay? Now THAT I didn't see coming.
Specizzle 2 months ago
@Specizzle
I had no idea!
Sarahon06 2 months ago
Not a horrible video sir.
Probably the best video on the whole subject.
eagleeye1975 2 months ago
I wonder if God could makes us a special hell for unpleasant chubby people we have our buddy Greg, Jerry Falwell, Tony48219, and Brett Keane. It would be nice if they could spend eternity somewhere eating healthy snacks and doing situps.
happyjesus123 2 months ago
dust in the wind...
420messenger 2 months ago
Somewhat surprised by the conversation that has developed regarding William.
To give voice to the interloper Greg seems to avoid the real issue.
I see many of the non-religious users on the tube speaking of their sorrow as if they are addressing messages to William. The use of RIP is also somewhat puzzling.
He is not resting in peace. He selfishly chose cowardice that resulted in his oblivion.
Needless suicide is a much more important subject in light of William's tragic decision.
Life matters.
MyGodTheresNoGod 2 months ago 2
@MyGodTheresNoGod Oblivion? Williams haters are the only ones who seem oblivious! Watch his fuckin videos. William didnt choose oblivion.
TheAvaloth 2 months ago
@MyGodTheresNoGod
What a stupid thing to bother pointing out. "life matters" of course it does. To each of us in a different capacity. I honestly don't give a fuck if his choice was what you would call "selfish." It wasn't yours to make. If we all made decisions based on how everyone else felt, most of us would be miserable sacks of shit. I'm not angry at Will. He lost a battle that I've never had to fight. Nonexistence can be rather peaceful if I remember it correctly.
Sarahon06 2 months ago
You said nonexistence can be rather peaceful. What delusional notion.
To be peaceful is to assert consciousness.
It's as meaningless as to suggest rest in anger, or awe, suffering, regret, fear, ecstasy, guilt, sadness, despair.
William wasted that which is most precious, and in his cowardice, he selfishly disregarded many of those who he left to deal with his action.
You, like many seem indifferent to his decision. Is it taboo to talk of the dead like this?
Don't worry, he's not listening.
MyGodTheresNoGod 2 months ago 3
@MyGodTheresNoGod I think the point is it doesnt matter what he did at the time of his death but what he did in life up until that point. People that cared about him and were his friends want to remember him for the things we was talented at and what he'd said.
Well theres a cause for his actions, obviously thats not going to come out of certain circles for personal reasons. But it werent wasted if Sarahon06 learnt something form what he said or vogter2100 liking his guitar.
FletchRDG 2 months ago
@FletchRDG cont. his guitar riffs. This what people are concentrating on and well deserved to.
His decision doesnt matter, its been decided nothing can change that. But I think we need to respect his life and not question his death, not right now at least. Respecting other peoples feelings and emotions, people need time to grieve. Questions like that can only light up hatred and anger.
But my condelences to the lose of William Cardno
FletchRDG 2 months ago
@MyGodTheresNoGod Finally someone has said it! Thank You!
secularheathen 2 months ago
@MyGodTheresNoGod
Is it taboo? I suppose so.
"To be peaceful is to assert consciousness."
I don't think so. Is it not possible that not existing is less painful than existing? I am not indifferent to his decision. A part of me *is* angry but it was his life not mine. I have no idea what he was going through so it's hard to put my own feelings first.
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@Sarahon06 Well said more or less how I feel I am not angry, but I have lost a great ally and friend and it will be a setback for my life. I think its the ultimate expression of it being your life by giving it up just as the ultimate expression of freedom is to take another's life. Not saying either is a good idea but how much more can you claim this is my life to do what i want with it than to kill one's self.
AxiomofDiscord 2 months ago
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@MyGodTheresNoGod
"You said nonexistence can be rather peaceful. What delusional notion."
If life is hell, so what? Better no-feeling then agony.
"To be peaceful is to assert consciousness."
Ah, so you have not considered those other possible ways of thinking about this... That might explain a bit. Although, not really: "coward" and "selfish".
"William wasted that which is most precious"
His life is not yours. Get your hands off it, please.
SomethingSea1 2 months ago
@MyGodTheresNoGod
"and in his cowardice"
Isn't it ironic that it's called Comitting suicide? Strange cognitive dissonance that people have.
"he selfishly disregarded many of those who he left to deal with his action."
I find this a rather disturbing way to look at it. Have you thought that, perhaps, it might be that 'those who he left to deal with his actions' might have been part of the reason he did it? Are you going to 'blame the victim'?
SomethingSea1 2 months ago
@MyGodTheresNoGod
"You, like many seem indifferent to his decision."
I am one of those who are not. For too long I have stayed silent on this subject and let people mindlessly demonize suicide, judging the person who "committed it" about as harshly as a theist judges an atheist.
"Is it taboo to talk of the dead like this?"
Let's make it less so.
"Don't worry, he's not listening."
That's quite the assertion. Can we prove it either way? No? Then how do you know?
SomethingSea1 2 months ago
@MyGodTheresNoGod
"He selfishly chose cowardice that resulted in his oblivion."
I find it interesting that suicide in this mindset is always referred to as "selfish" and "cowardly". It is his obligation to others to live? What a way to live!
"Needless suicide is a much more important subject in light of William's tragic decision."
Needless suicide? You can make a value statement about William committing suicide? Is that not judgmental?
"Life matters."
And the earth peoples.
SomethingSea1 2 months ago
Well said, man.
Ramiiam 2 months ago
This man is lucky to have people like you, who knew him, to pick up his torch and shame the assholes who are cowardly enough to take a jab at a dead person.
NearVSMello 2 months ago
There appear to be two camps concerning Mr.Cardno. Those that seem to think he is some fallen star and others who think he was more like an asteroid that plowed into their lives and destroyed them. I wonder how one man came be both things. I have heard it said that people who apparently knew things and did not like him are afraid to say, because he's dead and they don't to appear callous. Because your dead, does not erase your past deeds.I say, spill ur guts, the dead don't give a shit.
Elenkhos 2 months ago
@Elenkhos This is the grave-robberiest post ever. You really need a drama fix right now?
PaulineTriage 2 months ago
@PaulineTriage Drama fix? Nah... I just hate pretension... not that this video is, but so many are... it's so drool... Cardno was no saint, and I know plenty of people who will tell you just how he pitch forked their ass.
Elenkhos 2 months ago
@Elenkhos
Speaking of pretension. I don't think I'd like to know any "saints."
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@Elenkhos Yeah, but you could say that about anybody here. Hashing it out before he's even cold isn't really necessary. There's a reason "too soon" is a meme. Sometimes it really is just too soon. Any people he cocked over will be coming out of the woodwork to complain soon enough.
PaulineTriage 2 months ago
@PaulineTriage Ya you might be right.. I'm gonna go troll Coughlan
Elenkhos 2 months ago
Thanks for sharing.
Hereticbooks 2 months ago
I cried my eyes out when I watched this. This has changed my whole way of thinking about when people attack. Thank you for sharing some wisdom from William. As long as each of us remembers him.. he will still live. That's how people become immortal after all... they live in our minds and our hearts. Thank you Sarahon.
StarMagick 2 months ago
I saw your comment on his channel and wondered what you meant. Take the stick-what wise advise. Thank you for sharing that story.
I visited his channel and watched some of his vids, and listened to some his music, and I watched many fine tribute vids from his friends. I feel so sad for all y'all who lost a good friend, and a little sad for myself. I never knew Will. I wish I had.
phenixwryter 2 months ago
I sure liked this video !
no1saphead 2 months ago
Moving video man. I never knew William, and when Greg said he was William's friend, i never knew what to think about the video (whether to respect it or not).
Sorry for your loss dude.
sugelanren 2 months ago
I didn't have the fortune of knowing your friend, but I'm glad you did. Who knew I'd enjoy a eulogy by sarahon even more than i enjoy pwnage from sarahon?
thanks for the wisdom shared.
onlywhenprovoked 2 months ago
Great video.
StarMagick 2 months ago
I love you man. Great video, wise words.... you expressed it beautifully. I did not have the stomach or the patience to make a video to him but I wanted to in the worst way. Gregs video filled me with so much anger and disgust I could not find the words to respond. Thank you for being you.
devchelle2 2 months ago
I will remember what you have said here always
thank you so much
theRoseofmyheart 2 months ago
Certainly, he was a cool guy. To paraphrase a term from Christians, there is a William Cardno-sized hole in YouTube and in the world.
Wrathmont313 2 months ago
Will was smart, funny, kind, and a pure joy to behold. The world is a little bit dimmer, a touch smaller with his passing.
whistlingdust 2 months ago
Yay! My favorite forehead made a new video!
unclexbob 2 months ago
... powerful.
Danmill23 2 months ago
Nicely said Sarahon.
Also, very good to pass on good advice. Think I'll certainly use it sometime and definately pass it forward.
ShallowBeThyGames 2 months ago
See, if I took a stick from someone and then did to them what they were doing to me, it'd be to force them to empathize. Like this: /watch?v=DQxHcwrw7JI
BionicDance 2 months ago
Serahon, I needed to hear this. thank you for the excellent perspective.. Very real and very wise.
TheALGAYDA 2 months ago
Not a horrible video at all.
tattooskin72 2 months ago
Not certain why so many videos are being made which are tying Williams death to an object/person of his distain. I don't get the reaction. And I, for one, personally don't want to see Williams legacy ... the last echo of his legacy to be tied to hate.
Pardon me Sarahon but this video seems ironic. In that Will's story is once you get the stick you've won, and yet the future search for Cardno is a stab back video.
I just don't understand. Love this vid, just don't understand it's production.
dospook 2 months ago
@LeathermanFan2 You seem afraid.
IndifferentSky 2 months ago
I'm going to miss will. He was a good friend and I'm sad that I will never play D&D with him again.
sharpie443 2 months ago
@LeathermanFan2 Expecting someone to stick around merely so you don't have to cry and be sad about them gone is the most selfish things anyone could do. People don't exist merely for the happiness of others.
"Earn sympathy" You are a fucking moron.
The theme is suicide because despicable cunts like you make like unbearable for anyone who doesn't fit YOUR status quo.
ReignbowSmite 2 months ago 3
@ReignbowSmite *life
ReignbowSmite 2 months ago
@ReignbowSmite *life
ReignbowSmite 2 months ago
Sarahon, you are not alone. I miss Will, and I am sad that I wasn't a better friend toward the end. I knew he was going through a lot, and maybe I could've done more. Who knows? But what I do know is that Will was a great guy with a big heart, and anyone who really knew him knew that he was one of the good ones. Don't apologize for your emotions, you're not alone. Fuck anyone that says hateful things about him, they aren't worth your time, and definitely not worthy of commenting on William.
ThePunkReturns 2 months ago
*hugs*
EvilnessAkaDani 2 months ago
No way... this can't be true...
DackIsBack 2 months ago
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DackIsBack 2 months ago
RIP William Cardno
Sexualwendigo 2 months ago
thank you! i feel you man... <3
HandsupLX 2 months ago
I'm not ashamed to say this made me tear up, and I seriously regret not knowing this person better before this happened. He sounds like he was a truly solid character. :(
Roobitz 2 months ago
After watching Coughlan's response I felt better, but I knew it wasn't the response William would have made. Thank you so much for bringing him to life again for a brief moment in this video. I will greatly miss his insights, especially since I lost the opportunity to build a stronger friendship with him because I worried I wasn't insightful enough to be his friend. How fucking dumb is that. You never know the opportunities you've miss until it's too late...
Again, thanks for the great video.
BornWithoutReligion 2 months ago 2
@BornWithoutReligion
"I worried I wasn't insightful enough to be his friend."
Yeah I've felt that way before but I think you were wrong there :P You're fairly awesome ya know :P in my not so humble opinion. And you're most welcome.
Sarahon06 2 months ago
@Sarahon06 thanks :)
BornWithoutReligion 2 months ago
I never got a chance to talk to William and I didn't know that video existed.
Nightw0lf414 2 months ago
Sorry Sarahon. :(
I apologize when I can empathize having no one to blame.I guess when I do that, it's me trying to give someone a place to put that blame...
Stay well.
ReignbowSmite 2 months ago
The perfect response.
jayeenn 2 months ago
Very good video. I knew will well from my time chatting on stickam and Greg's video actually physical sickned me. Will is not hell nor this man have any clue about his own theology. I remember stuff about do not judge but thats me. Greg just seems to want attention and he has now got it well woop dee doo. I hope he is happy I certainly am not.
bossman103 2 months ago