I don't think Gamliel was talking about its existence being a proof of its truthfulness. Moreso, he was referring to the fact that if the Christians couldn't be stopped then it must be Gods intention for them to continue. Gods reason for allowing the Christian movement to continue doesn't necessarily mean he condones it as truth or his word. God himself never contributed to Christian theology (unless you consider Christ to be God), and therefore doesn't lie or deceive anyone.
I don't see them as "vanishing." There's still a great amount of people who don't view "Jesus of Nazareth" as 'the Most High God' (thus, not a "person" with Him either) and adhere to his teachings.
so it did, as it seems, it was because of the persecution on both sides, they were kicked out of the synagogue for being Christians and in churches they were being kicked out for being Jews. Most of them stayed with mainstream Judaism.
Recently some sect is reviving this, and not according to the Pauline doctrine.
You should have stayed out of my channel you sanctimonious disgusting am haaretz bigot, and vile apikorsos. My inbox was no longer good for the hate filled dreck that you sent me?
@bernardrichards why do you have a jewish looking channel, when you very clearly are an x-tian...this is why you hated my videos on x-tians infiltrating judaism, yet your channel demonstrates a judaic content, clearly a deception! you havent stopped harassing me since exposing you! even after i blocked you! when i said leave us alone, i meant jews.
@aviyahu01 Why do you have neutral video on Messianic Christians when you are a bigot who hates all Christians -- clearly a deception. I hate all bigots and racists, but most of all I hate sanctimonious bigots of the Neturei Karta variety like you. You calling me not a Jew that is really funny. I can trace my lineage to King David, but given your middot you can probably trace your lineage to a mamzer ger who converted insincerely to Judaism.
Your channel contains a video wherein a rabbi teaches the Law will change when Messiah comes -- to us, Messiah has come, and its application has been brought to a deeper level. Christians maintain that they die together with Messiah Yeshua on the cross, baptized into His death, and are raised with Him in His resurrection; therefore the Torah's change in application to us who died and are resurrected in Spirit is valid.
@ReadTheScripture But the Holy Spirit won't become God after the Messiah. There are laws that Are eternal: Circumcision, what to eat and what not to eat, Others are moral laws that cannot be changed, such as Usury. Christians have made all of that obsolete.
I don't think Gamliel was talking about its existence being a proof of its truthfulness. Moreso, he was referring to the fact that if the Christians couldn't be stopped then it must be Gods intention for them to continue. Gods reason for allowing the Christian movement to continue doesn't necessarily mean he condones it as truth or his word. God himself never contributed to Christian theology (unless you consider Christ to be God), and therefore doesn't lie or deceive anyone.
Excpired 1 month ago
For all people who have doubt who are FIRST JUDDEOCHRISTIANS please look video-:Foxe's Book of Martyrs (1 of 6)
mRwhite298 3 months ago
"The Nazarenes, who accept Christ in such a way that they do not cease to observe the old Law, explain..." (Jerome, commentary on Isaiah 8:14)
HeroOfChristArchives 4 months ago
I don't see them as "vanishing." There's still a great amount of people who don't view "Jesus of Nazareth" as 'the Most High God' (thus, not a "person" with Him either) and adhere to his teachings.
1ADChristianity 5 months ago
@1ADChristianity To bad for the pork chops, hahah!!!
CristoYcruz 5 months ago
so it did, as it seems, it was because of the persecution on both sides, they were kicked out of the synagogue for being Christians and in churches they were being kicked out for being Jews. Most of them stayed with mainstream Judaism.
Recently some sect is reviving this, and not according to the Pauline doctrine.
junjimalaza 5 months ago
incredible, factual, historical speech. very good!
aviyahu01 5 months ago
@aviyahu01
You should have stayed out of my channel you sanctimonious disgusting am haaretz bigot, and vile apikorsos. My inbox was no longer good for the hate filled dreck that you sent me?
bernardrichards 5 months ago
@bernardrichards wow, you are a persistent psychopath nu? leave us alone...you need therapy.
aviyahu01 5 months ago
@aviyahu01
Who is us? Do you have multiple personalities? I am presently only communicating with your bigot / apikorsos personality.
And if you can't handle being made a fool of, and don't want to argue with me chacham from the ma nishtana than just stop replying to my comments.
bernardrichards 5 months ago
@bernardrichards why do you have a jewish looking channel, when you very clearly are an x-tian...this is why you hated my videos on x-tians infiltrating judaism, yet your channel demonstrates a judaic content, clearly a deception! you havent stopped harassing me since exposing you! even after i blocked you! when i said leave us alone, i meant jews.
aviyahu01 5 months ago
@aviyahu01 Why do you have neutral video on Messianic Christians when you are a bigot who hates all Christians -- clearly a deception. I hate all bigots and racists, but most of all I hate sanctimonious bigots of the Neturei Karta variety like you. You calling me not a Jew that is really funny. I can trace my lineage to King David, but given your middot you can probably trace your lineage to a mamzer ger who converted insincerely to Judaism.
bernardrichards 5 months ago
@Stargypsy lol you're exactly right.
zech823 6 months ago 3
We become unified with that "Seed" of Abraham, and partake of the blessing, thereby. (Gal 3).
ReadTheScripture 6 months ago
Your channel contains a video wherein a rabbi teaches the Law will change when Messiah comes -- to us, Messiah has come, and its application has been brought to a deeper level. Christians maintain that they die together with Messiah Yeshua on the cross, baptized into His death, and are raised with Him in His resurrection; therefore the Torah's change in application to us who died and are resurrected in Spirit is valid.
ReadTheScripture 6 months ago
@ReadTheScripture But the Holy Spirit won't become God after the Messiah. There are laws that Are eternal: Circumcision, what to eat and what not to eat, Others are moral laws that cannot be changed, such as Usury. Christians have made all of that obsolete.
1MoreMuslim 6 months ago
Thanks Rabbi, But it doesn't matter...
You have a video of Jesus committing armed robbery and they still would have some way to rationalize it..
straygypsy 6 months ago 9