Those dubbed the "far left" in the USA are a long way from the UK's equivalent. Politically, Barack Obama is not that far from David Cameron. The Right in the US would be apoplectic at the likes of real Lefties like Dennis Skinner or Tony Benn, who consider Democrats more like Conservatives on a huge number of issues.
As for the Tea Party, they would be considered off the scale in the other direction, as they are far to the right of Margaret Thatcher, considered reactionary in the UK.
There's no logical way for O'Reilly to say he disapproved of the murder. He's certainly a proponent of the death penalty for murderers, for war against terrorists, why would he condemn the murder of a doctor who in his own view murdered tens of thousands of babies. His rhetoric almost makes it sound like the guy was a one-man concentration camp.
His apology was political, a disclaimer, but not sincere and not taking any responsibility for those who hang on his words
O'Reilly hasn't really condemned the killing. Sure he may have said "I condemn this killing" but he still insists that Tiller was a "baby killer" who "has blood on his hands." If you say things like that, GUESS WHAT? Someone's going to take that position to it's logical end at some point.
Bill Press is to be praised for breaking away from the liberal pack and not blaming O'Reilly. We all have the right of Free Speech, right or wrong. However, responsibility is indeed the other half of our rights.
The Left Wing Media does it's own share of hate when it constantly categorizes Obama dissenters as racists, (as well as their usual take on everyone who disagrees with them on anything) and they too are spreading hate and misunderstanding in their own special way.
Nice to see that SOME of the left agrees that O'Reilly is not responsible.
But now that independent thought has been practiced..now the liberals will put these people on their shit list too..
Oh and the original Hippocratic Oath also forbids abortion:
""I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion."
So now the liberals can blame Hippocrates as well.
I just hope Tiller felt some pain and felt fear before he passed away. I would have loved to see his eyes as he tried to evade Scott's bullets. Taste hot lead bitch haha Justice was served!
i don't like Bill but he definately did not incite the murder of Dr tiller. There are so many other reasons that could of put a factor to his death.. This Killer was just mentally living in the land of Oz. and just had that crazy urge that most sociopaths have in common. Bil had just pointed his views and that's his view. So no way in any way shape or form was he even a factor to this murder incident.
This was just an unfortunate case and we can now move on :)
O'Reilly whips these nutjobs into a frenzy talking about Tiller, then claims no responibility when one of them kills the very same doctor he was condemning. I'm not saying O'Reilly is directly responsible for the killing, because the psychos don't need much of a push.
I'm a moderate when it comes to abortion rights. I think there are times when abortion is morally justified and there are times when it isn't. It's not an either/or issue.
What is needed is calm rational discussion. Does using violent language lead to violence? Yes. Does calling a person a killer make it more likely they will be killed? Yes.
That isn't to say that O'Reilly doesn't have the right to espouse contemptible rhetoric. But having a civil right doesn't make it morally right.
When its growth stops, Keith?? No that would be your pathetic news network, Keith, you flaming fucktard. You're down to about 3 viewers, right Olberdouche?
Jesus, people can actually look at late term abortions and not think that humanity has sunken to the lowest depths of Hell. There will be no 2012 end of the world the end of the world happened long ago when are morals and values became non existent.
When will people stop rationalizing by using the term "pro-choice". Sure the guy's death was tragic but the real tragedy is the tens of thousands of babies who had hole drilled in their heads and had their brains sucked out. Why don't you want to see videos of babies being murdered? If you listen closely you may hear one or two of those children try to gasp their fist and only breath of air before death. Change it up a bit from Entertainment Tonight or Dancing with the Stars.
I agree with you. It isn't an issue of whether that fetus is a rational human being at the point of abortion, but rather its undeniable POTENTIAL for becoming a human being. Abortion is pretty much parallel to killing a person who is half-drowned because you don't feel like saving them...they might have even come to on their own, the potential was there, but you stole it by murdering them...
this guy is such a douche. first of all, plenty of pro-choicers use heated rhetoric...the media just doesn't portray it often. they use arguments like comparing fetuses to parasites and saying it's a form of slavery to be pregnant with an unwanted child.
but more importantly, the reason why the extremists on the right is because ABORTION IS LEGAL. there isn't much to bitch about because it's not going anywhere anytime soon. should roe be overturned, you'll see the left act just as crazy.
billo is guilty without being guilty. He didn't kill the man but he did insight the violence. This is exactly why rednecks can't own guns. they put their christianity on and kill in name of it. Billo u did provoke this murder....
Dr Tiller was an American citizen, doing something to help women and which is perfectly legal. Bill O'Really is a hatemongering, self promoting, douchebag who hates Americans, he demonizes our fellow citizens, and invites his lunatic audience to commit violence
What about the future American citizen that were aborted? How about watching the show before criticizing it and making false statements. Remember, Dr. Tiller performed LATE term abortions.
Tiller performed late term abortions under the conditions that the pregnancy threatened the mothers life or the fetus was deformed or had various other illnesses. There were charges filed against him contrary to that but all were dismissed and he was found innocent.
If not for Bill O'reilly this man would still be alive today. He's not a murderer but he insights hate that leads to things like this. In fact this is the second murder related to O'reilly.
Stop reading whatever blogs are telling you that and open your mind. Tiller performed late term abortions on women for all kinds of reasons .. not because the mothers life was in danger (mental health should not be an excuse ..)
The key term is L-A-T-E term abortion ... which only a few doctors in the U.S. due. Bill-O has a strong opinion on LATE term abortions. In America we have freedom of speech and freedom of the press .. don't blame Fox news for the horrific act of some nut job
didn't o'reilly talk about him something like 44 times and used the phrase "tiller the baby killer" 28 times? legally we can't blame o'reilly but if it weren't for him tiller would still be alive.
I don't think O'Reilly or Fox News are to blame for Tiller's murder, but they didn't help any by creating an atmosphere of hatred towards this man, and then shining the spotlight on him. It's easy for people in power to whip up frenzy and have their fringe supporters take it to far. Take for instance when Sarah Palin belittle Obama and called him a terrorist. Remember the people in the audience shouting "Kill Obama" after she'd do that? Yeah...
Bill Press said "you don't hear that heated rhetoric on the left". Really? Were you asleep for the 8 years Bush was in office Mr. Press? Are you talking in your sleep now? I still hear it. To quote Oreilly, "Wise up".
Olbermann is a freakin' kook who can't get past that his show gets trounced DAILY by whatever is opposite him on Fox - or anywhere else on the tube! He says this stupid crap to get videos like this posted and bring attention to his sick, demented way of thinking - ALL just to try to get his ratings up. If you blame O'Reilly for Tiller's murder, then Jodie Foster is responsible for the assassination attempt on Reagan, since getting her attention inspired THAT nutball. ABSURD!!
BILL O'REILLEY IS A BITCH! A stupid BITCH THAT SHOULD BE OFF THE AIR!~ He bitches about the stupidest shit! I can't stand him, and the rest over there are tolerable! But BILL IS A DICK! Not becuz of this situation either! I'm nuethral there, but Bill is always SPINNING SHIT IN HIS "NO SPIN ZONE."
I don't know why everyone is worried about this baby killer and all, you know folks, there is STILL A WAR ON CHRISTMAS! You forgot about that, huh???? I mean Bill reminds us day after day on the factor what you hippie lybirels are doing to distort OUR values! No spin here BITCH! You don't member Olbermann demanding we KILL bush just last week, and then that hippie Maddow told her audience to get your shotguns and shoot cheney in the face....member? you member?.......Oh my, idiots of you tube
hey buddy i don't need Bob to remind me about WAR PAL! I read my news, and I don't need that fuck head telling me that news! HES A FUCKN WHACK JOB that if you don't think like him your an idiot, and I can't stand his idea of how the world should be! I'm sorry, but his attitude toward marijuana alone is SAD! Also he fucked with that dad that videoed his son after the dentist... Oh, oh, sir that's child abuse, border line.. WHAT THE FUCK EVER!! SPINNING SHIT AS USUAL! We can agree 2 disagree sir!
One more thing, he would never send his kid to that war, or any family member at that.. Which I don't blame him, this is bushy's war, and now we're going to Afghanistan?~! I'm fine with that, but why the fuck didn't we do this years ago!!~ Becuz there's more behind this shit, and Bush is CORRUPT AS A THREE DOLLAR BILL! Sorry, again my opinion.. Don't call me a sissy liberal either, I'm an independent thinker.. I don't need any party, they both SUCK BALLZ.... They are in bed with each other!
Those dubbed the "far left" in the USA are a long way from the UK's equivalent. Politically, Barack Obama is not that far from David Cameron. The Right in the US would be apoplectic at the likes of real Lefties like Dennis Skinner or Tony Benn, who consider Democrats more like Conservatives on a huge number of issues.
As for the Tea Party, they would be considered off the scale in the other direction, as they are far to the right of Margaret Thatcher, considered reactionary in the UK.
cbak12sg 5 months ago
Lets just say O'reily and fox put the bullet in the chamber, pulled back the hammer and let someone else pull the trigger.
cujomade101 1 year ago
There's no logical way for O'Reilly to say he disapproved of the murder. He's certainly a proponent of the death penalty for murderers, for war against terrorists, why would he condemn the murder of a doctor who in his own view murdered tens of thousands of babies. His rhetoric almost makes it sound like the guy was a one-man concentration camp.
His apology was political, a disclaimer, but not sincere and not taking any responsibility for those who hang on his words
theseanze 1 year ago 3
Bill dares use the term "Zealots" on abortion supporters when anti-abortionists just did this? Ridiculous, but this is Fox so I'm being redundant.
tipoomaster 1 year ago 11
O'Reilly hasn't really condemned the killing. Sure he may have said "I condemn this killing" but he still insists that Tiller was a "baby killer" who "has blood on his hands." If you say things like that, GUESS WHAT? Someone's going to take that position to it's logical end at some point.
newdimensionfilms 1 year ago
Bill Press is to be praised for breaking away from the liberal pack and not blaming O'Reilly. We all have the right of Free Speech, right or wrong. However, responsibility is indeed the other half of our rights.
The Left Wing Media does it's own share of hate when it constantly categorizes Obama dissenters as racists, (as well as their usual take on everyone who disagrees with them on anything) and they too are spreading hate and misunderstanding in their own special way.
Shawnster65 1 year ago
Late terms are a no-no, but murder of the living is a much worse crime.
imraw17 1 year ago 14
Nice to see that SOME of the left agrees that O'Reilly is not responsible.
But now that independent thought has been practiced..now the liberals will put these people on their shit list too..
Oh and the original Hippocratic Oath also forbids abortion:
""I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion."
So now the liberals can blame Hippocrates as well.
Shawnster65 1 year ago
@Shawnster65 The fact that the even needed to have a debate shows how stupid they are.
prooc 1 year ago
@prooc You mean CNN? Well look at hwta is stands for, "Communist News Network." And you have the reason for their stupidity, LOL
Shawnster65 1 year ago
I just hope Tiller felt some pain and felt fear before he passed away. I would have loved to see his eyes as he tried to evade Scott's bullets. Taste hot lead bitch haha Justice was served!
thejizzman99 1 year ago
i don't like Bill but he definately did not incite the murder of Dr tiller. There are so many other reasons that could of put a factor to his death.. This Killer was just mentally living in the land of Oz. and just had that crazy urge that most sociopaths have in common. Bil had just pointed his views and that's his view. So no way in any way shape or form was he even a factor to this murder incident.
This was just an unfortunate case and we can now move on :)
BeyondChange 1 year ago
Fuck George Tiller he was a piece of shit , he reaped what he sowed ,burn in hell Tiller!
ste670ler 1 year ago
O'Reilly's only crime here is truth.
decimator333 2 years ago
O'Reilly whips these nutjobs into a frenzy talking about Tiller, then claims no responibility when one of them kills the very same doctor he was condemning. I'm not saying O'Reilly is directly responsible for the killing, because the psychos don't need much of a push.
michiganriverman 2 years ago 4
Should Bill O'Reilly be blamed for George Tillers murder?
No, the man who murdered George Tiller should be blamed for George Tillers murder..
Thank You and Goodnight.
gifted67 2 years ago
I'm a moderate when it comes to abortion rights. I think there are times when abortion is morally justified and there are times when it isn't. It's not an either/or issue.
What is needed is calm rational discussion. Does using violent language lead to violence? Yes. Does calling a person a killer make it more likely they will be killed? Yes.
That isn't to say that O'Reilly doesn't have the right to espouse contemptible rhetoric. But having a civil right doesn't make it morally right.
MarmaladeINFP 2 years ago
When its growth stops, Keith?? No that would be your pathetic news network, Keith, you flaming fucktard. You're down to about 3 viewers, right Olberdouche?
phantomlord54 2 years ago
Jesus, people can actually look at late term abortions and not think that humanity has sunken to the lowest depths of Hell. There will be no 2012 end of the world the end of the world happened long ago when are morals and values became non existent.
JackedClown 2 years ago
they blame metal music, or rap for murder. it is the same situation...
boltzman5 2 years ago
oreilly should be happy about those abortions, they'd probably end up being liberals if they had been born.
boltzman5 2 years ago
When will people stop rationalizing by using the term "pro-choice". Sure the guy's death was tragic but the real tragedy is the tens of thousands of babies who had hole drilled in their heads and had their brains sucked out. Why don't you want to see videos of babies being murdered? If you listen closely you may hear one or two of those children try to gasp their fist and only breath of air before death. Change it up a bit from Entertainment Tonight or Dancing with the Stars.
stevoleggo 2 years ago 2
I agree with you. It isn't an issue of whether that fetus is a rational human being at the point of abortion, but rather its undeniable POTENTIAL for becoming a human being. Abortion is pretty much parallel to killing a person who is half-drowned because you don't feel like saving them...they might have even come to on their own, the potential was there, but you stole it by murdering them...
michahsimmons 2 years ago
this guy is such a douche. first of all, plenty of pro-choicers use heated rhetoric...the media just doesn't portray it often. they use arguments like comparing fetuses to parasites and saying it's a form of slavery to be pregnant with an unwanted child.
but more importantly, the reason why the extremists on the right is because ABORTION IS LEGAL. there isn't much to bitch about because it's not going anywhere anytime soon. should roe be overturned, you'll see the left act just as crazy.
sblxi 2 years ago 2
"you cant blame anyone for a crime except the person who commit the crime"
this is patently untrue legally.
jasonbrianmerrill 2 years ago 2
Bill O'Reilly incites terrorism and blames those nughty liberals for his actions. ]
Cry me a river so I can scour the tears off your face with a loofah, Billo.
robertmike57 2 years ago
O'Reilly incites terrorism? Prove that.
FeetVlog 2 years ago
If you consider something to be murder, why shouldn't you call it murder?
FeetVlog 2 years ago
wait...the guy did kill thousands of babies..
Olbermann is a douchebag as usual. Hello Mr. Douchebag Olbermann!!!
Steelers26426 2 years ago
"People on the far left"
Disgusting..."left" just means less brainwashed
ShaktipatSage 2 years ago
EPIC FAIL. i guess fox news individually and a as whole never blames any american for anything especially obama huh?
RIGHT WING MEANS BRAINWASHED LIARS AND PROPOGANDA.
tresdizz 2 years ago
billo is guilty without being guilty. He didn't kill the man but he did insight the violence. This is exactly why rednecks can't own guns. they put their christianity on and kill in name of it. Billo u did provoke this murder....
MultiPyro7 2 years ago 2
Prove that!
FeetVlog 2 years ago
Dr Tiller was an American citizen, doing something to help women and which is perfectly legal. Bill O'Really is a hatemongering, self promoting, douchebag who hates Americans, he demonizes our fellow citizens, and invites his lunatic audience to commit violence
PlanetoftheAtheists 2 years ago
What about the future American citizen that were aborted? How about watching the show before criticizing it and making false statements. Remember, Dr. Tiller performed LATE term abortions.
nwright27 2 years ago
Tiller performed late term abortions under the conditions that the pregnancy threatened the mothers life or the fetus was deformed or had various other illnesses. There were charges filed against him contrary to that but all were dismissed and he was found innocent.
If not for Bill O'reilly this man would still be alive today. He's not a murderer but he insights hate that leads to things like this. In fact this is the second murder related to O'reilly.
westt44 2 years ago
WRONG
Stop reading whatever blogs are telling you that and open your mind. Tiller performed late term abortions on women for all kinds of reasons .. not because the mothers life was in danger (mental health should not be an excuse ..)
The key term is L-A-T-E term abortion ... which only a few doctors in the U.S. due. Bill-O has a strong opinion on LATE term abortions. In America we have freedom of speech and freedom of the press .. don't blame Fox news for the horrific act of some nut job
nwright27 2 years ago
"all kinds of reasons" but he was found innocent?
didn't o'reilly talk about him something like 44 times and used the phrase "tiller the baby killer" 28 times? legally we can't blame o'reilly but if it weren't for him tiller would still be alive.
westt44 2 years ago
O'Relilly is an ugly cheerleader. He supported the anti-abortion platform. A team member did the deed. These commentators are no better.
They make excuses to stay on good terms with the people that listens to them.
O'Reilly starts the problems and Oblermann calls him on it. Everyone else is scared of O'Reilly.
4u2b1ib12 2 years ago 2
The FED needs to stop funding abortion.
Why force me to pay for other peoples mistakes?
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
BO needs to swallow his pride a bit and apologize. or at the very minimum, shut the hell up about it.. he is making a fool of himself.
this 'im the victim' crap is just complete disrespect for dr tiller, his family, friends, and patients.
anitsirhceener 2 years ago 2
BillO is a blowhard.
dsteding 2 years ago 2
I don't think O'Reilly or Fox News are to blame for Tiller's murder, but they didn't help any by creating an atmosphere of hatred towards this man, and then shining the spotlight on him. It's easy for people in power to whip up frenzy and have their fringe supporters take it to far. Take for instance when Sarah Palin belittle Obama and called him a terrorist. Remember the people in the audience shouting "Kill Obama" after she'd do that? Yeah...
Britton001 2 years ago
Bill Press said "you don't hear that heated rhetoric on the left". Really? Were you asleep for the 8 years Bush was in office Mr. Press? Are you talking in your sleep now? I still hear it. To quote Oreilly, "Wise up".
liquorandpoker 2 years ago
Oreilly is the fucking best ever!!
HE IS THE GREATEST!!!
Oreillyisthebest 2 years ago
Yes he is!!!
FeetVlog 2 years ago
Olbermann is a freakin' kook who can't get past that his show gets trounced DAILY by whatever is opposite him on Fox - or anywhere else on the tube! He says this stupid crap to get videos like this posted and bring attention to his sick, demented way of thinking - ALL just to try to get his ratings up. If you blame O'Reilly for Tiller's murder, then Jodie Foster is responsible for the assassination attempt on Reagan, since getting her attention inspired THAT nutball. ABSURD!!
rickerwill2 2 years ago
Hey CNN, why didn't you get BILLY BOY on the show..
Open his buttocks..
..and get yourselves up there.
Ffs.
o8QWERTYo8 2 years ago
Great choice of guests for this story CNN..
..arseholes.
o8QWERTYo8 2 years ago
BILL O'REILLEY IS A BITCH! A stupid BITCH THAT SHOULD BE OFF THE AIR!~ He bitches about the stupidest shit! I can't stand him, and the rest over there are tolerable! But BILL IS A DICK! Not becuz of this situation either! I'm nuethral there, but Bill is always SPINNING SHIT IN HIS "NO SPIN ZONE."
SiCoFgOvErNmEnT 2 years ago
I don't know why everyone is worried about this baby killer and all, you know folks, there is STILL A WAR ON CHRISTMAS! You forgot about that, huh???? I mean Bill reminds us day after day on the factor what you hippie lybirels are doing to distort OUR values! No spin here BITCH! You don't member Olbermann demanding we KILL bush just last week, and then that hippie Maddow told her audience to get your shotguns and shoot cheney in the face....member? you member?.......Oh my, idiots of you tube
franklinjonesii 2 years ago
hey buddy i don't need Bob to remind me about WAR PAL! I read my news, and I don't need that fuck head telling me that news! HES A FUCKN WHACK JOB that if you don't think like him your an idiot, and I can't stand his idea of how the world should be! I'm sorry, but his attitude toward marijuana alone is SAD! Also he fucked with that dad that videoed his son after the dentist... Oh, oh, sir that's child abuse, border line.. WHAT THE FUCK EVER!! SPINNING SHIT AS USUAL! We can agree 2 disagree sir!
SiCoFgOvErNmEnT 2 years ago
One more thing, he would never send his kid to that war, or any family member at that.. Which I don't blame him, this is bushy's war, and now we're going to Afghanistan?~! I'm fine with that, but why the fuck didn't we do this years ago!!~ Becuz there's more behind this shit, and Bush is CORRUPT AS A THREE DOLLAR BILL! Sorry, again my opinion.. Don't call me a sissy liberal either, I'm an independent thinker.. I don't need any party, they both SUCK BALLZ.... They are in bed with each other!
SiCoFgOvErNmEnT 2 years ago
Cheney/Bush killed million
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago