Hung-Ga does in fact have similar hand and stance, but it isn't introduced until the Tiger and Crane form. Many of the short hand techniques in Hung-Ga originate in Fukien Siu-Lum/Bak Hok, which shared common ancestry with Nam Tong Long.
If you examine the short-hand Crane and Snake techniques, you will see the similarities.
BTW-Hung-Ga is not actually a Tiger and Crane style, but a Five Animal style. Tiger and Crane form was the most popular set demonstrated, hence the nickname.
Much respect to all styles, no one is better than the other because ultimately it comes down to the practitioner. I must say though that I absolutely love this style, it's movements and techniques are beautiful and deadly. Respect.
Most of the Earthbenders in Avatar use Hung Gar. Toph, being blind and learning from the animal teachers, uses unique techniques based on Southern Praying Mantis. After the creators chose this style for Toph they learned of a legend that Southern Praying Mantis Style was developed by a blind woman so it turned out to be very fitting.
I was able to buy two Kwan Tak Hing Wong Fei Hung movies in SF's Chinatown. Would like to get more, including this one. Are any of them available subtitled?
Look at the guy at :33-:34. It seems like the camera a skips, and it kind of does, but also if you look really carefully, you can see his hands going REALLY fast.
Yeah, Toph. And I never said Hung Gar was related to Mantis. But Toph, an earthbender, does use Mantis postures in the Avatar cartoon, even though all the other earthbenders use Hung Gar movements. That's all I'm saying. I'm not stating anything at all about the actual styles themselves.
To be honest, I don't see a lot of similarity between northern Mantis and Hung Gar (my sifu was a Hung Gar and Bak Sil Lum stylist for decades before moving to internal styles about 30 years ago). Toph's movements are based on southern Mantis, though. Very different from northern.
Capoeira and even Ninja were similarly practiced in covert ways, Capoeira developed by slaves who made it look like a dance practice routine instead of learning martial arts, where Ninja were peasants who used farming tools and readily available weaponry to defend their homes and families.
SPM is a Deadly Martial Art that was originally developed only to seriously injure or kill people. It was never intended to be taught outside of the Hakka People (Visitors from the North), and was deliberately mis-named Praying Mantis (which it has almost nothing in common with Northern Praying Mantis) to keep Government Agents from discovering it's true original purpose in life.
its freaking great but, i dont appreciate the footwork. i would say that this is their only idiosyncratic. i hope that it was cleaned up by now or else certain other stylist will have a field day exploiting this.
I've seen BJJ "In-Action", and agree that in a 1-on-1 situation, can be superior, but going to the ground is a bad idea if there are more than one person to deal with, as you can only take ONE person to the ground at a time... the others will be pounding on, choking, or joint-locking you out, while you've got your hands full with the first person.
Israeli Defense person said going to the ground is FATAL in a multi-person attack (against just you), and I agree.
uh..what? are you assuming that when i spoke about footwork ( in this case ) being a liablity that, i was referring to BJJ was one of the exploiters? in fact i believe every style has its limitations that should be improved upon. my counter for BJJ is my high low training whilst transitioning from stance to stance. that and cavity sealing with iron claw disipline.the heavy footfall of this style is too intrepidascious as my style tends to be rooted and tentative as a cat as it is responsive
Yes, many martial arts were developed by the poorer classes, who were usually also nearly enslaved by the upper class, so they had to develop ways to defend themselves covertly to keep Big Brother from getting any suspicions that they were training.
This is genuine SPM - and is the form of Li Yin Sing. If you shallow non descript wasters haven't even the courstesy to show a little respect, go and waste your "sad" time elsewhere ...... Pathetic !!!
Oh forgive me great honorable afl168 for not knowing what honorable Li Yin Sing routine of copying an insect meant. I shall now go and have my blood sucked by the FLEAS of a thousand camels.
Taken from the Kwan Tak Hing movie "Huang Fei-hong xing juan hui qi lin (1956)Fei-hong Huang" aka "How Huang Fei-hong Pitted a Lion Against the Unicorn"
Exactly. Both Lee Wing Sing and Lum Sang went into the same Temple ... LWS several years before LS.
Same hand ... slightly different interpretation by way of pre-existing physical attributes. Genetics if you prefer. LS was approx. 5'2" tall and 120 pounds. In the Hip Sing there are some photos of him and when he moved for real he presented a fast moving target only about 3 feet high.
If it wasn't for LS,no one would even know of LWS.One living off the fame of another after he dies.Why can leave LS alone, and see if LWS can stand on his own?
badass looks just like our forms. :) awesome to see that in a kwan tak hing (spell bad) movie. traditional hung gar and s. mantis in a 50s kf movie. i luv it.
I only know of 2 films where Southern Praying Mantis plays prominent part - this film and invincible shaolin.So I dont know where to get more from but i'll try!As for the school its Jook Lum and it seems very similar to the Lee Ying Sing Pai.
don't forget....5 Deadly Venoms!!! They called it Toad style but of course it was Lo Meng's Chow Gar. Oh, there's also Killer Army, where Lo Meng uses South Mantis as his art and another one he did with Philip Kuo where they aided a general or something. Not much kung fu in the latter, but he shows some south mantis conditioning drills.
For completenesses sake, in the Avatar animated series Toph Bei Fongs style of earthbending is supposed to be based on Chow Gar Southern Praying Mantis. But... Well, that's distant relationship to the third power.
This stuff is crazy cool, I wish they had good teachers of this in Canada. People don't respect styles like this but I sure as hell do.
123UncleRuckus 6 months ago
this guy a master of south pray mantis powerful and fast !
kenzi88888 8 months ago
Hung-Ga does in fact have similar hand and stance, but it isn't introduced until the Tiger and Crane form. Many of the short hand techniques in Hung-Ga originate in Fukien Siu-Lum/Bak Hok, which shared common ancestry with Nam Tong Long.
If you examine the short-hand Crane and Snake techniques, you will see the similarities.
BTW-Hung-Ga is not actually a Tiger and Crane style, but a Five Animal style. Tiger and Crane form was the most popular set demonstrated, hence the nickname.
TenTigers 1 year ago
Much respect to all styles, no one is better than the other because ultimately it comes down to the practitioner. I must say though that I absolutely love this style, it's movements and techniques are beautiful and deadly. Respect.
ek9fd2 1 year ago
Most of the Earthbenders in Avatar use Hung Gar. Toph, being blind and learning from the animal teachers, uses unique techniques based on Southern Praying Mantis. After the creators chose this style for Toph they learned of a legend that Southern Praying Mantis Style was developed by a blind woman so it turned out to be very fitting.
mechanussunrise 1 year ago
I was able to buy two Kwan Tak Hing Wong Fei Hung movies in SF's Chinatown. Would like to get more, including this one. Are any of them available subtitled?
sabinoson 1 year ago
100% perfect
100percentserious 1 year ago 2
100% perfect
100percentserious 1 year ago
This is lee wing sing Kung fu
184180033140200552 2 years ago
This is great footage.
theScytheofGod 2 years ago 2
Maybe an influence on Krumping?
eolelf 2 years ago
Awesome video! Love this kind of stuff.
Look at the guy at :33-:34. It seems like the camera a skips, and it kind of does, but also if you look really carefully, you can see his hands going REALLY fast.
SeijiiNakamaru 2 years ago
This is excellent footage of Southern Mantis.
theScytheofGod 2 years ago
View this clip and read the "more info" text
Jook Lum Southern Praying Mantis Kungfu - 1954
ChinaMantisSurvey 3 years ago
wow the guy is a true master like you dont see anymore
cpvu1991 3 years ago
Lol. They're around. You just have to know where to look for them.
pazernaker 2 years ago
im not gonna have a trip to taiwan or fujian any soon lol anyway i guess im fine with my ymaa stuff!
cpvu1991 1 year ago
OMG! This is brilliant! Thanks for posting it! This is amazing! I love!
tongsifu1128 3 years ago
EARTHBENDING!
Viktorchecker 3 years ago
Wrong style :p Earth Bending comes from Hung Gar.
SeijiiNakamaru 2 years ago
The little girl earthbender in the group does Mantis.
Man, I feel like such a dork.
theMAG101 2 years ago 2
In real life? I mean, they're all doing mantis.
Earth bending isn't Praying Mantis style, by the way. XD It's Hung Gar.
SeijiiNakamaru 2 years ago
I know, but that little girl's movements are based on Mantis. I mean in the cartoon (I don't know her name).
theMAG101 2 years ago
o.o Hung Gar isn't related to praying mantis at all. It's a combination of crane and tiger.
Where'd you hear that?
... You're talking about Toph, right?
SeijiiNakamaru 2 years ago
Yeah, Toph. And I never said Hung Gar was related to Mantis. But Toph, an earthbender, does use Mantis postures in the Avatar cartoon, even though all the other earthbenders use Hung Gar movements. That's all I'm saying. I'm not stating anything at all about the actual styles themselves.
theMAG101 2 years ago
Oh, lol. I get what you mean then. Some of the moves in hung gar are small and mantis-y looking. (I would know, I do northern praying mantis!)
SeijiiNakamaru 2 years ago
To be honest, I don't see a lot of similarity between northern Mantis and Hung Gar (my sifu was a Hung Gar and Bak Sil Lum stylist for decades before moving to internal styles about 30 years ago). Toph's movements are based on southern Mantis, though. Very different from northern.
theMAG101 2 years ago
Yea, they got small and abrupt movements. I think I southern is more aesthetically pleasing (to me).
Cool, I watched all the episodes and the extras and nothing mentioned that.
SeijiiNakamaru 2 years ago
No the little girl in Avatar does to hakka mantis notice the stomps she does in the cartoon and her guard stance.
Hung Gar doesn't have a stance nor a guard like that.
The movements in hung gar are more open.
quanjiahao87 2 years ago
great.
starplayer996 3 years ago
Great mens. Great Style. Great video.
BlackMantisDwx 3 years ago 3
This is not Chow Gar. It is Lee Yin Sing's branch of Jook Lum mantis boxing. The first section of the form to be precise.
deejayrockwell 3 years ago
Capoeira and even Ninja were similarly practiced in covert ways, Capoeira developed by slaves who made it look like a dance practice routine instead of learning martial arts, where Ninja were peasants who used farming tools and readily available weaponry to defend their homes and families.
AlterEgoJohnnyB 3 years ago
SPM is a Deadly Martial Art that was originally developed only to seriously injure or kill people. It was never intended to be taught outside of the Hakka People (Visitors from the North), and was deliberately mis-named Praying Mantis (which it has almost nothing in common with Northern Praying Mantis) to keep Government Agents from discovering it's true original purpose in life.
AsianAmerican68 4 years ago 8
its freaking great but, i dont appreciate the footwork. i would say that this is their only idiosyncratic. i hope that it was cleaned up by now or else certain other stylist will have a field day exploiting this.
opticannon 3 years ago
I've seen BJJ "In-Action", and agree that in a 1-on-1 situation, can be superior, but going to the ground is a bad idea if there are more than one person to deal with, as you can only take ONE person to the ground at a time... the others will be pounding on, choking, or joint-locking you out, while you've got your hands full with the first person.
Israeli Defense person said going to the ground is FATAL in a multi-person attack (against just you), and I agree.
FYI, BJJ origins is Mr. MAEDA.
AsianAmerican68 3 years ago
uh..what? are you assuming that when i spoke about footwork ( in this case ) being a liablity that, i was referring to BJJ was one of the exploiters? in fact i believe every style has its limitations that should be improved upon. my counter for BJJ is my high low training whilst transitioning from stance to stance. that and cavity sealing with iron claw disipline.the heavy footfall of this style is too intrepidascious as my style tends to be rooted and tentative as a cat as it is responsive
opticannon 3 years ago
Yes, many martial arts were developed by the poorer classes, who were usually also nearly enslaved by the upper class, so they had to develop ways to defend themselves covertly to keep Big Brother from getting any suspicions that they were training.
AlterEgoJohnnyB 3 years ago 6
Who is the woman walking around inspecting everyone? Is she the Sifu? Who is she?
AsianAmerican68 4 years ago
Sitai for woman master.
canman5060 4 years ago
Very similar to CHU GAR SPM.
AsianAmerican68 4 years ago
GOD this CLIP is OLD but its AMAZING...!!! SHEAR POWER AND CLASS
toad 4 years ago
holy fuck... see that kid in the black tearin up near the end, AWESOME
SocalRaver2 4 years ago
This is the real shit,dam it looks crap.
BlackBeltLeroyJones 4 years ago
this is the real shit not like the white washed kung fu we see today
ACboy99 4 years ago
168.
Man you come right out of a comic book.
BlackBeltLeroyJones 4 years ago
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Whata these jive turkeys in pyjamas doing in this old Charlie Chaplin film i dont get it.
BlackBeltLeroyJones 4 years ago
Holy crap, this footage is a freak'n gem!!! NICE!
Lrock79 4 years ago
Ancient pple look better while doing tao, dont know why i guess more serious during training.
jegaslim 4 years ago
Anyone knows where one can get this movie?
And is that "little guy" at the end who I think it is ??
psacramento 4 years ago
Yep you guessed it.... its Johnny Depp alright.
SnoopDicketyDawg 4 years ago
I knew it !!
His range as an actor is truly amazing.
psacramento 4 years ago
Wtf? If this movie was made in 1956, Johnny Depp wasn't even born yet.
lin2k4 4 years ago
You ignorant prick ! Bored, sad idiots like you obviously have no idea !!!!
afl168 4 years ago
This is genuine SPM - and is the form of Li Yin Sing. If you shallow non descript wasters haven't even the courstesy to show a little respect, go and waste your "sad" time elsewhere ...... Pathetic !!!
afl168 4 years ago
Oh forgive me great honorable afl168 for not knowing what honorable Li Yin Sing routine of copying an insect meant. I shall now go and have my blood sucked by the FLEAS of a thousand camels.
SnoopDicketyDawg 4 years ago
You sad imbecile ..... You probably don't understand the word do you ? Never mind you sad, boring person...
afl168 4 years ago
Your "name" says it all !!!
afl168 4 years ago
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Why don't you fuck off and deliever some sweet and sour chicken you punk ass
SnoopDicketyDawg 4 years ago
You obviously lack self control Snoop "DICK" etyDawq .... Never mind my sad friend.... Have a good life :)
afl168 4 years ago
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Yes MASSA!. DON'T.... concentrate on the d fingaa uder vise you will miss all of dat heavenly Grroowrry. Have a nice life too dipshit ;-)
SnoopDicketyDawg 4 years ago
If you are a fan of Southern Praying Mantis Kung Fu than you might be interested in seeing this video I made of Southern Praying Mantis 9th Degree
Grandmaster Henry Sue training his Masters in combat.
If you click on my name above you can take a look.
aaronturnby 4 years ago
ok..
generalnazor 4 years ago
Taken from the Kwan Tak Hing movie "Huang Fei-hong xing juan hui qi lin (1956)Fei-hong Huang" aka "How Huang Fei-hong Pitted a Lion Against the Unicorn"
southernmantiskungfu 4 years ago
Where do you get videos like this?
MrAnime2007 4 years ago
i wish they had more of the old Kwan Tak Hing films. i'd like to see some of the shit from like the 30's and 40's.
GGAllinIsGod 4 years ago
kool i wish i can learn that
Nhia89 4 years ago
So beautiful I cant wait till I get to the forms like that
rockstarr2113 5 years ago
very nice the techniques and ma work reminds me of a mantis form belong to the tsiang family system, even though it is not.
kidd003 5 years ago
Lets keep the comments on topic. Save your arguments for PM, forums and emails.
southernmantiskungfu 5 years ago
This video is not Chow Gar. It is the Lee Yin sing Pai Jook Lum mantis. The guy at the start of the clip is a sidai of my sigung!
The form is "Sup Saam Sau Faht" but done with a mixture of Bak Mei which was the practitioners previous style.
deejayrockwell 5 years ago
good kung fu !
art123abc 5 years ago
the juk loom i learn is from henry po yee. the 3 step bung bo is in the vid we do that and the way they turn around too. we do that also.
hunggarguy 5 years ago
Exactly. Both Lee Wing Sing and Lum Sang went into the same Temple ... LWS several years before LS.
Same hand ... slightly different interpretation by way of pre-existing physical attributes. Genetics if you prefer. LS was approx. 5'2" tall and 120 pounds. In the Hip Sing there are some photos of him and when he moved for real he presented a fast moving target only about 3 feet high.
SPMBeast666 5 years ago
If it wasn't for LS,no one would even know of LWS.One living off the fame of another after he dies.Why can leave LS alone, and see if LWS can stand on his own?
ahhingme 5 years ago
Not at all true. Lee Wing Sing was well known before Lam Wing Fay even went into (One of, not the) Kwangsi Jook Lum Temple.
Your history is way gapped out.
SPMBeast666 5 years ago
Looks funny to me...looks like he's teaching them a dance routine!! We just discovered China's earliest Boyband!!
rawstyles 5 years ago
your comments are so stupid.
ahhingme 5 years ago
Interesting, the first form looks sort of similar to what we call Three Step Arrow.
dmbyer 5 years ago
The Hakka arts are baddass and this does look like Gin Foon Marks "Three Step Arrow".
chukthunder 5 years ago
This video is actually Chow Gar, it is labelled improperly. Not a bad video though.
perpetratorkiller 5 years ago
I'm not familiar with Chow Gar SPM, but if that is what this video is (as perpetratorkiller claims), it is also very similar to Chu Gar SPM.
AsianAmerican68 3 years ago
This is the most awesome video i ever seen on SPM I love SPM
steeldrone1 5 years ago
I took Jook Lum and none of that stuff was taught there
steeldrone1 5 years ago
since this clip is from 1956 i guess u didnt
then...
FrankyLau 5 years ago
badass looks just like our forms. :) awesome to see that in a kwan tak hing (spell bad) movie. traditional hung gar and s. mantis in a 50s kf movie. i luv it.
hunggarguy 5 years ago
Great video.
Tanglang is such a weid style, using quick and light power. The footwork is interesting.
Lightbringer777 5 years ago
Little guy is real and good.
ahhingme 5 years ago
Perhaps the Macow Jook Lum temple?
dw3041 5 years ago
I only know of 2 films where Southern Praying Mantis plays prominent part - this film and invincible shaolin.So I dont know where to get more from but i'll try!As for the school its Jook Lum and it seems very similar to the Lee Ying Sing Pai.
southernmantiskungfu 5 years ago
don't forget....5 Deadly Venoms!!! They called it Toad style but of course it was Lo Meng's Chow Gar. Oh, there's also Killer Army, where Lo Meng uses South Mantis as his art and another one he did with Philip Kuo where they aided a general or something. Not much kung fu in the latter, but he shows some south mantis conditioning drills.
Zokujin 5 years ago
What is the name of this film and the other?
Thank you
MrAnime2007 4 years ago
For completenesses sake, in the Avatar animated series Toph Bei Fongs style of earthbending is supposed to be based on Chow Gar Southern Praying Mantis. But... Well, that's distant relationship to the third power.
garouHH 3 years ago
Any idea what school that was?
dw3041 5 years ago
come on please, more where these came from
sampochin 5 years ago
Absolutely amazing video
WELL DONE
sampochin 5 years ago
fantastic!
YANHAP 5 years ago
Now thats suppercool to see :D
ambushed 5 years ago
I like the last half
theshadowboy607 5 years ago