Jeremy Clarkson filmed an engine test for his 1995 BBC series 'Motor World', at the end of the short burst it starts raining 100% pure water from the cloud formed by the engine - pure physics magic! :o)
to think during launch the space shuttle has TWO MORE of these and 2 solid rocket boosters....thats how over 3 g's is achieved during launch even when the space shuttle weighs over 2000 tons at launch - like nearly 4 airbus a380's!
I remember while living in Long Beac, CA on West Pleasant McDonald Douglas would test jet engines at the LB airport. It was LOUD. I can only imagine one of these...
When i was a kid we lived on the outer edge of the "Buffer Zone" right on the Hackock/ Pearl River county line. Night tests would throw you out of your bed.
What's really amazing is that there are people so close. When the Sat V F-1 engines were tested, the closest people were miles away due to the acoustical issues (sound can kill).
@Woody615 Thats one of the reasons they flood the "blast pad" with water. Most of the plume you see further out is water vapor from normal engine operation, but some is steam and water droplets from the pad. All the steam and water absorb sound.
And also there is a lot of Hydrogen in the exhaust gases, because only the half of the H burns. It makes the Isp higher because of the low molecular weight of the H.
It doesnt get more environmentally friendly than that, just plain old water / steam and some carbon dioxide but they dont put out that much relatively speaking.
Hydrogen doesn't make for a bright flame anyway, it's a dull red flame probably only visible in night tests there. Plus, the engine employs a staged combustion cycle so doesn't vent much unburned fuel to boot (as for example Saturn V F-1 engines did from their gas generators).
I was in Huntsville in the 90s when they had one of these tsets. From some 5 to 10 miles away ONE SSME sounds a lot like a loud airliner. I can only imagine what it would sound like with the whole stack! Wish I could hear that in person!
I live in Daytona Beach and you can hear it from the beach when the shuttle launches, just takes 3 or 4 minutes to get there from 30 or so miles away.
Unlike Aries V this is a liquid fueled (hydrogen) engine, not a combination of solids with a liquid core.
Later (never built) plans for Saturn V had versions with (4) aries sized solid strap on boosters that would have easily surpassed Aries -both have a 33 foot diameter core however without its solid strap on's, Aries would have much less thrust for the same footprint -the last Saturn V had almost 8 million lbs of thrust while later versions of the F-1 (F-1A) would have made it even higher
Also, this is a test of only ONE engine. At lift off, three engines ignite, followed by the twin solid rocket boosters. The space shuttle leaves the pad much faster than the Aries or Saturn V.
Liquid oxygen (LOX). The LOX and liquid hydrogen (the Shuttle's fuel) are mixed together in the combustion chamber where a spark (like a sparkplug in a car engine, only more elaborate) ignites the two elements together, giving you a clean flame for thrust and steam for exhaust. The only "dirty" elements of the Shuttle is the solid rocket boosters (SRB) and the attitude control thrusters.
You sir are a great example of what is wrong with Y/T.
Would it be so hard to attempt to correct me without being a complete prick.
Nothing like a keyboard warrior opening their mouth and saying something that they would never say to an idividual for fear of having to deal with the consequences.
So I salute you keyboard warrior, may your childish attitude and narrowminded way of thinking and inability to comunicate be forever hiden behind your screen.
Actually the problem is fucking morons that will do no research of their own, expect everyone to kiss their stupid ass, and generally have no idea why everyone treats them like dirt. People like you in other words. Do us all a favor and kill your fucking self.
They used to test these engines in my home town, Simi Valley, CA back in the 80s at the Rocketdyne facility. I remember our whole house vibrating. As a kid, tt was so fun to watch the plumes and feel the immense power. My neighbor worked on the pumps.
Thanks to the guys that brought you the RL-10, J-2, Space Shuttle, and RS-68 engines that use liquid hydrogen and LOX for the fuel and oxidizer. Best stuff on the face of the Earth and probably cleaner than the water that comes out of your tap.
The exhuast from this engine is 100% Pure Water. Everything you see in the video is STEAM. You environmental wackos don't usually like to get facts before going nuts though so I'm sure you don't care. Let's ban water!!!
Well dont ask me about the chemical details but the fact is, the mixture of liquid oxygen and hydrogen burns almost without a visible flame. (just a small blue one) You can see quite good at some videos here at youtube:
...and think about it, they can't monitor all three engines at the same time. I'm not familiar with what kinds of incidents might happen on a SSME test but I guess if something goes wrong with at least one of them it'll put the other two engines at risk...it doesn't sound reasonable.
It's the other way round. The SSMEs take the shuttle to orbit while the SRBs help to get it off the pad in the first 2 minutes of the flight. While the SRBs produce 75% of the liftoff thrust, the SSMEs are delivering about 80% of the overall impulse for orbit.
I should imagine that generated a bit of rain downwind! Strange that there is no "glow" from the burning hydrogen/oyygen. I would expect to see the steam lit up from the inside.
The glow showes up fairly well at night. On this stand the nozzle of the engine is actually encapsulated and the hot gas coming out of the nozzle is directed down a long tube (passive altitude simulation) before exiting the tube, hitting the deflector, and being directed sideways. This helps to hide the glow.
Thanks for explanation! Wow - somebody on YouTube who sounds like they know what they're talking about. I am constantly amazed at the sheer pig-ignorance of commenters and their inability to spell/type/punctuate and string a few (stupid) words together. End of rant.
Thanks for the comment. I just thought it was cool to find video of my "office building" on YouTube! I guess looking from outside in it's cool to be able to call rocket engine testing your job.
Dude I had one guy claim that Nitrous oxide was flammable. All to do with nitrous injection in an engine. He just didn't get it. That is until i told him to go to Wikipedia and look it up. Never said another word again.
Not sure what you mean but anyway, he was saying "why would you inject a non flamable gas into the engine but didn't understand that it is the combustion process that release's the oxygen molecule to enable more fuel to be burn't. Nitrous oxide is not flammable, but does allow more fuel to be burn't due to a chemical reaction to the combustion process. I'll try and find the vid and let you know so you can read the whole thing for yourself.
All the steam produced is from water that is poured into a pit under the engine exhaust. It prevents damage to the pit as the flames rush through exhaust veins. As long as the engine runs, so does the water.
@uaaerospace How were they able to test the engine without that thing shooting up in the sky? It must've had major thrust even though it was only one engine
@arohn2007 The engine is mounted in a large concrete and steal structure. The structure is built to withstand the 400,000 lb force of thrust that this engine can produce.
@uaaerospace@arohn2007 And in reality, that isn't that much thrust compared to when they test fired all 5 F-1's on the Saturn V. The 5 engines produced 7.5 million pounds of thrust. Actually you just tie into the thrust plate and it stays in place. At launch there were tie down arms that held the entire rocket in place, so they are well versed on how to hold it down.
that was bomb. or should i say boom
uk2k1010 4 months ago
planning on getting this for my skate board. what do you recon?
Moonsamy2 5 months ago
I just Wish our Cars Could run on Hidro
worldwildwest 6 months ago
Jeremy Clarkson filmed an engine test for his 1995 BBC series 'Motor World', at the end of the short burst it starts raining 100% pure water from the cloud formed by the engine - pure physics magic! :o)
3Deity 6 months ago
to think during launch the space shuttle has TWO MORE of these and 2 solid rocket boosters....thats how over 3 g's is achieved during launch even when the space shuttle weighs over 2000 tons at launch - like nearly 4 airbus a380's!
twinturbonissan300zx 8 months ago
I remember while living in Long Beac, CA on West Pleasant McDonald Douglas would test jet engines at the LB airport. It was LOUD. I can only imagine one of these...
bb4960 10 months ago
Well, I know where to go next time my nose is dry and irritated!
Textrybal 1 year ago
hahahaha these engines are probably greener than a prius! only Water is the result of it's exhaust!
EpiDemic117 1 year ago
Whats amazing is how that cloud will come down in an hour or so as rain :)
Thunderr10 1 year ago
The water curtain is for a couple things, but a few reasons are cooling and noise reduction. The water quiets it down ALOT.
funkawitz 1 year ago
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funkawitz 1 year ago
What was the purpose of this? lol
UnrealGlider 1 year ago
how much does it cost in fuel to test it for this long ?
Newbpwng 1 year ago
When i was a kid we lived on the outer edge of the "Buffer Zone" right on the Hackock/ Pearl River county line. Night tests would throw you out of your bed.
DustinBruce31 1 year ago
What's really amazing is that there are people so close. When the Sat V F-1 engines were tested, the closest people were miles away due to the acoustical issues (sound can kill).
Woody615 1 year ago
@Woody615 The audio of this recording doesn't do the real sound justice. It's an awesome sound in person!
uaaerospace 5 months ago
@Woody615 Thats one of the reasons they flood the "blast pad" with water. Most of the plume you see further out is water vapor from normal engine operation, but some is steam and water droplets from the pad. All the steam and water absorb sound.
highvoltagefeathers 1 week ago
That's the hydrogen economy for you, right there. Only high-powered. ;)
ssyreeni 2 years ago
Is this the same location as:
watch?v=f3sVuFjJlp4
It looks like the shuttle engines are much cleaner burning than the 1st stage of the Saturn V.
LenWhistler 2 years ago
And also there is a lot of Hydrogen in the exhaust gases, because only the half of the H burns. It makes the Isp higher because of the low molecular weight of the H.
Mitrolaja 2 years ago
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MrRedSubie 2 years ago
It doesnt get more environmentally friendly than that, just plain old water / steam and some carbon dioxide but they dont put out that much relatively speaking.
fairlanejay 2 years ago
More like the niagra falls than an engine test! They use so much coolant water these days, you don't see any flame at all! Pretty cool though!
fiddleup 2 years ago
Hydrogen doesn't make for a bright flame anyway, it's a dull red flame probably only visible in night tests there. Plus, the engine employs a staged combustion cycle so doesn't vent much unburned fuel to boot (as for example Saturn V F-1 engines did from their gas generators).
ugowar 2 years ago
ugowar if the fuel and oxidiser reacts with spark,it will burn
boolykbol 1 year ago
@boolykbol Huh? What does that have to do with my comment on lack of bright *exhaust* flame?
ugowar 1 year ago
Ahhh.. it's just an estee's model rocket on steroids! :/
panhead1219 2 years ago
And We Call This The Cloud Maker !!!
Impressive Video !!!
rocketman6881 2 years ago
I was in Huntsville in the 90s when they had one of these tsets. From some 5 to 10 miles away ONE SSME sounds a lot like a loud airliner. I can only imagine what it would sound like with the whole stack! Wish I could hear that in person!
zathras9now 2 years ago
I live in Daytona Beach and you can hear it from the beach when the shuttle launches, just takes 3 or 4 minutes to get there from 30 or so miles away.
SpatulaCS 2 years ago
I also whish i could sniff those rocket fumes in person too!!!
HelpSaveTheEarth2051 2 years ago
Aries V makes this look like a firecracker.
thewebmaster93 2 years ago
Unlike Aries V this is a liquid fueled (hydrogen) engine, not a combination of solids with a liquid core.
Later (never built) plans for Saturn V had versions with (4) aries sized solid strap on boosters that would have easily surpassed Aries -both have a 33 foot diameter core however without its solid strap on's, Aries would have much less thrust for the same footprint -the last Saturn V had almost 8 million lbs of thrust while later versions of the F-1 (F-1A) would have made it even higher
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
Also, this is a test of only ONE engine. At lift off, three engines ignite, followed by the twin solid rocket boosters. The space shuttle leaves the pad much faster than the Aries or Saturn V.
Neptuneaus 2 years ago
yeah, and weighs far less
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
So is that hydrogen peroxide or simply liquid oxygen they are testing with?
pancakepie2 2 years ago
LOX---LH2
taliban0king 2 years ago
Liquid oxygen (LOX). The LOX and liquid hydrogen (the Shuttle's fuel) are mixed together in the combustion chamber where a spark (like a sparkplug in a car engine, only more elaborate) ignites the two elements together, giving you a clean flame for thrust and steam for exhaust. The only "dirty" elements of the Shuttle is the solid rocket boosters (SRB) and the attitude control thrusters.
rwboa22 2 years ago
Yeah, it`s a ~cloudmaking machine~ )
tovaristchPavlik 2 years ago
All that stuff they told you in geography was a lie.. THIS is where rain comes from
dubstepdude 2 years ago
Could you feel any ground vibration from where you were? Looks like you were several hundred feet away
jumper86 2 years ago
That must be a contender for the world's best smoke machine, surely
bal20 2 years ago
Makes steam not smoke.
blyndrotor 2 years ago 2
So do smoke machines you fucktard
dubstepdude 2 years ago
You sir are a great example of what is wrong with Y/T.
Would it be so hard to attempt to correct me without being a complete prick.
Nothing like a keyboard warrior opening their mouth and saying something that they would never say to an idividual for fear of having to deal with the consequences.
So I salute you keyboard warrior, may your childish attitude and narrowminded way of thinking and inability to comunicate be forever hiden behind your screen.
blyndrotor 2 years ago
Alright jees, was only joking
dubstepdude 2 years ago
Fucking asshole don't cry...
U238Studios 2 years ago
Thats it. Thats the best you can come up with. Please.
Try and be a litle more creative if you want to insult me. Atleast try and make it better than every other idiot out there.
Besides if I had cried about the matter it would have stuffed my keyboard and it would look like this. ja/sd'd\]oNDNDGASKSL;LJDE FKASJSDHFLS.
blyndrotor 2 years ago
Actually the problem is fucking morons that will do no research of their own, expect everyone to kiss their stupid ass, and generally have no idea why everyone treats them like dirt. People like you in other words. Do us all a favor and kill your fucking self.
Polybun 2 years ago
Aww you hurt my feelings.
Curious though, at what point did I give you the impression that I want everyone to kiss my ass, or that people treat me like dirt.
I hope you had fun with this internet psycic
blyndrotor 2 years ago
They`re adjusting the rotation speed of the earth =)
MastaMag 2 years ago 14
@MastaMag what
boolykbol 1 year ago
wow now i know how they makes clouds..i think its going to rain tomorrow
fuji2failo 3 years ago 2
the clouds from these tests do actually rain lol..no joke look it up
tnwellian 2 years ago 2
where is fire?
ChuckyYeager 3 years ago
They used to test these engines in my home town, Simi Valley, CA back in the 80s at the Rocketdyne facility. I remember our whole house vibrating. As a kid, tt was so fun to watch the plumes and feel the immense power. My neighbor worked on the pumps.
rcargn 3 years ago
i never knew that the white smoke was steam until i saw this show about space shuttles
AIRMAN217 3 years ago 3
not only is it steam it makes its own rain clouds too.....
blacklotus808 3 years ago
Thanks to the guys that brought you the RL-10, J-2, Space Shuttle, and RS-68 engines that use liquid hydrogen and LOX for the fuel and oxidizer. Best stuff on the face of the Earth and probably cleaner than the water that comes out of your tap.
rwboa22 3 years ago
This planet can be a great place to live sometimes !
: )
blacklotus808 3 years ago 2
The exhuast from this engine is 100% Pure Water. Everything you see in the video is STEAM. You environmental wackos don't usually like to get facts before going nuts though so I'm sure you don't care. Let's ban water!!!
HouTexHemi 3 years ago 20
Right on HouTexHemi!!! You are so right about the environmental/Global warming freaks.
michaelschepis 3 years ago 3
@HouTexHemi Bet this made it rain lol
UnrealGlider 1 year ago
i wish u could see the actual fire
w7i7n7k7 3 years ago
Well there isnt much of a fire even if you could see it. The flame of these engines is hardly visible.
Jameilalala 3 years ago
why? is it just oxygen? cuz i thought it was oxygen and hydrogen
w7i7n7k7 3 years ago
Well dont ask me about the chemical details but the fact is, the mixture of liquid oxygen and hydrogen burns almost without a visible flame. (just a small blue one) You can see quite good at some videos here at youtube:
v=so8axV56ujY (at 15 sec)
v=kMSVg6Vbb98 (at 60 sec)
v=4FROxZ5i67k (at 78 sec)
Jameilalala 3 years ago
Mmmmm...Steamy
jizzmonger 3 years ago
NOS Bottle Explodes During A Race is the vid and look for the exchanges between blyndrotor and jh1212, you'll get a laugh.
blyndrotor 3 years ago
why didnt the building lift off?
seanyboy741 3 years ago 2
That's one hell of a fog machine.
Sigrafix 3 years ago 2
Was that ONE engine or all THREE main engines?!
bobwhois 4 years ago 2
I believe the SSME's are tested one at a time. I think I heard once that each one has the same output as 15 Hoover Dams.
da40flyer 4 years ago
AND at least 25 Hoover vacuum cleaners! (Just thought you'd like to know)
bobwhois 4 years ago
From what I know the engines are tested one at a time...So I guess that's just one engine. Those things are amazing.
NakSsS 3 years ago
...and think about it, they can't monitor all three engines at the same time. I'm not familiar with what kinds of incidents might happen on a SSME test but I guess if something goes wrong with at least one of them it'll put the other two engines at risk...it doesn't sound reasonable.
NakSsS 3 years ago
This was one engine.
uaaerospace 3 years ago
SSMEs are not designed to take the shuttle into orbit. They only help it.
The SRBs are the prime movers - firecrackers sold by ATK.
fourx5 3 years ago
It's the other way round. The SSMEs take the shuttle to orbit while the SRBs help to get it off the pad in the first 2 minutes of the flight. While the SRBs produce 75% of the liftoff thrust, the SSMEs are delivering about 80% of the overall impulse for orbit.
blablubb12345 3 years ago 2
At the end it sounds like a Tie Fighter from Star wars, amasing eh?
arshdeep125 4 years ago
jep, heard it too :) ..btw, that's a lot of fuel :)
MBalVids 4 years ago
I think its about 900 tons of feul ...O.o woah did i just say that right? oh man ...dude thats a lot of Fudgin feul...
arshdeep125 4 years ago
nice one!!5 stars...
drsheikhjunior 4 years ago
I should imagine that generated a bit of rain downwind! Strange that there is no "glow" from the burning hydrogen/oyygen. I would expect to see the steam lit up from the inside.
Gruntol5 4 years ago
The glow showes up fairly well at night. On this stand the nozzle of the engine is actually encapsulated and the hot gas coming out of the nozzle is directed down a long tube (passive altitude simulation) before exiting the tube, hitting the deflector, and being directed sideways. This helps to hide the glow.
msudawg1997 4 years ago
Thanks for explanation! Wow - somebody on YouTube who sounds like they know what they're talking about. I am constantly amazed at the sheer pig-ignorance of commenters and their inability to spell/type/punctuate and string a few (stupid) words together. End of rant.
Gruntol5 4 years ago 3
Thanks for the comment. I just thought it was cool to find video of my "office building" on YouTube! I guess looking from outside in it's cool to be able to call rocket engine testing your job.
msudawg1997 4 years ago
Dude I had one guy claim that Nitrous oxide was flammable. All to do with nitrous injection in an engine. He just didn't get it. That is until i told him to go to Wikipedia and look it up. Never said another word again.
blyndrotor 3 years ago
wait so what happened when this guy said that nitrous oxside was flamable?
halo2maxifoo 3 years ago
Not sure what you mean but anyway, he was saying "why would you inject a non flamable gas into the engine but didn't understand that it is the combustion process that release's the oxygen molecule to enable more fuel to be burn't. Nitrous oxide is not flammable, but does allow more fuel to be burn't due to a chemical reaction to the combustion process. I'll try and find the vid and let you know so you can read the whole thing for yourself.
blyndrotor 3 years ago
SSME's=hight tech steam steam rocket engine.
russian buran had succesfully designed a non toxic RCS rockets on their Buran.
nakazatoGTR 4 years ago
All the steam produced is from water that is poured into a pit under the engine exhaust. It prevents damage to the pit as the flames rush through exhaust veins. As long as the engine runs, so does the water.
bonjour82 4 years ago
Exactly. The water is running long before the engine starts and continues to run after the engine shuts off.
uaaerospace 3 years ago
@uaaerospace How were they able to test the engine without that thing shooting up in the sky? It must've had major thrust even though it was only one engine
arohn2007 6 months ago
@arohn2007 The engine is mounted in a large concrete and steal structure. The structure is built to withstand the 400,000 lb force of thrust that this engine can produce.
uaaerospace 5 months ago
@uaaerospace @arohn2007 And in reality, that isn't that much thrust compared to when they test fired all 5 F-1's on the Saturn V. The 5 engines produced 7.5 million pounds of thrust. Actually you just tie into the thrust plate and it stays in place. At launch there were tie down arms that held the entire rocket in place, so they are well versed on how to hold it down.
Woody615 1 week ago
Interstingly, the SSME burns liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, so all that exhaust is just very hot steam. The space shuttle actually makes water!
qbasicjedi 4 years ago
Yes, true, but the other gasses in the APU's and whatnot are actually toxic and can kill you very, VERY easy.
littlepyro 4 years ago
also very expensive!
videohog22 4 years ago
nice smoke bomb....
jorgefc 4 years ago
That would shrink a few tee shirts...
That is probably enough steam energy to heat my campus for a few years! lol
MaverickTPGN 4 years ago
Nice! How do you find out about the test, and how do you get to this viewing location? I'd love to see this in person
proaudiohd 4 years ago
nice vid
united3000 4 years ago