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  • so beatutifull

  • Awesome video MrPoe. Can't wait to see more.

  • Off to a good start. Keep it up!

  • I was like, OH MY GOOOOOOOD! This movie is so awsome!:P I love this movie :D

    your gooooood at this...

    Keep on the good work Poe.

  • star trek sucks

  • you're too young to appreciate it.

  • You guys really need to work on your voice acting recruitment, or at least emphasise feeling more. Aside from theat it's quite a good effort.

  • Great job on the costumes and the video. I recently got into machinima and you just broadened my horizons on what is possible. What you did with the green screen from Stunts and Effects is awesome.

  • Thanks, Voidexplorer!

  • nice destruction of the enterprise

  • Sorry, but , where did you get the Enterprise D bridge fot the movies?

  • The Trek bridges are from the game, "Bridge Commander". The actors are keyed in.

  • Do you think you could instruct me on how you did that? i have a NX01 bridge mod for BC that I want to use for my own series.

  • how did u do dat in sum bits it looks like bridge commander in others the sims2 amzin job guys xxx

  • if you had the game you would see how hard it was to make evan a 1 minite film.

  • Looks like a crappy N64 game

  • this game watchuly was number 1 in the charts for ages

  • Did you do any voice acting yourself?

  • Yeah, I did the navigator and the security guy.

  • how did u get the costumes?? they dont have them on the game

  • They're custom made. You can go here to download them:

    8eyedbaby dot com

  • a very well made fils quite smashing indeed

  • That's so very impressive. How did you create this? I mean, what program did ya use. lol it's really the best in animiation ST I've ever seen. Well done! :)

  • Thank you! I used "The Movies" game for the actors, and "Bridge Commander" for the sets.

  • Well it was brilliantly done. I hope you do more :)

  • Excellent! Best thing I've ever seen that was made using The Movies.

  • Good video, very nice portrayal of what would actualy happen. Well done.

  • Wow that was brutal... I liked it.

  • A Galaxy-Class Ship Would Have Battered A Star Wars Ship lol

  • Simply put, no, the E-D has a 3.6 GW Main Phaser Array, 64 Mt Omnidirectional Photorps, and 3311 GW shields. The Slave-1 has 64000 GW guns, 190 Mt Shaped-charge Missiles, and ~2 billion GW shielding. An Acclamator has 300 million GW light guns, twelve 200 Gt medium guns, and 200 trillion GW shielding. Scale those medium guns up into heavy turbolasers and you get 6 Terratons.

  • WOLF HOW DID U COME UP WIT THOSE NUMBERS

  • You need to do your research just a little better, my friend. Wolf hit most of it right, but the heavies apparently can get much higher than 6TT a shot. If you scale up an ISD in relation to a Venator, and take into account that one is twenty years more advanced than the other, and packs more guns, I think the average ISD broadside is around 400TTs or so, assuming 35% reactor power to the weapon systems.

    ISDs are also faster than their Trek counterparts by a noticeable margin.

  • LOL. Damned accurate despiction of what would happen.

  • lmao hahaha they just got blasted

  • @ DanteLeonhart

    Apparently you've never gotten laid because anyone who actually makes a comment about reading a technical manual on a "lets pretend" starship must be about 400 lbs, and never bathe... Or a skinny white kid with glasses bigger than his whole head...

    Its funny, and thats what it is meant to be, get over it.

  • Nice Ad Hominem...

  • Its just fun beating up noob STvsSW debaters. Can't wait for part 2.

  • ST vs SW, Math vs Wild speculation, this vs that... I could care less the lot of you all! All I want are more starships... Bring on the starships!

  • I think you mean ST vs SW. Both of them have set technological levels and both have Technical Manuals, and comparing the two technology, a Firespray Patrolship (IE Slave One) outperforms the Enterprise-D in all areas except weight and size.

  • Yes, heck dadonna quotes give us an even higher upper limit, which is technically higher canon. It's not as if we're being mean or anything by using lower canon, lower limit calcs. Also 200 gigatons is from medium turbolasers, heavy turbolasers (six/eight ones placed along the side of an ISDI/II) have been calced to be in the double digit teraton range.

  • Bear in mind that the rabid Warsies have in their heads that every shot from a Star Destroyer has about 200 GIGATONS of destructive power. They conveniently ignore the fact that that much power would turn a Super Star Destroyer into an expanding cloud of vapor from ONE HIT once the shields were down, let alone the "Medical frigate" that survived several such hits, shields down, in ESB.

  • Ah, yes. Yet another misinformed Trekkie. 200GT has been proven. You may now continue to cry in your Koolaide.

  • You are not very smart, are you?

    Star Wars ship have heat dissipating armor as a secondary defence line for times when shield DO fail!

    That's why we use asteroid destruction to establish lower limit yields- this armor is made of exotic materials, and we have absolutely no idea how much beating it can take before failing!

    P.S.: whether you like it or not, 200GT figure is absolute canon and it has been proven on several occasions. Don't like it? Too bad!

  • Space is full of small debris and meteroids. A 200GT blast would instantly vaporize nearby debris. Why don't we see this when the ISDs are firing?

    Besides, how do we know for certain what the asteroid is made of?

  • 1) A turbolaser is a concentrated energy beam. 2) A 200GT blast doesn't propagate through space like it does in an atmosphere. 3) Those are point defence turbolasers vaporizing asteroids in TESB, and no evidence they are set to a full 200 GT. 4) Several EU sources confirm that the asteroids in the Hoth system are nickel-iron.

  • What is the chemical formula and mineral composition of those asteroids, and how have the EU sources determined that composition by watching a movie?

  • The EU sources deferred to real life study of asteroids, which state most deep space 'roids are stony iron. The NEAs (Near Earth asteroids) are the ones made up of clumps of dirt and ice.

  • I'd be interested to see some -- oh, I dunno -- MATH substantiating this statement. (Also, desist with the ridiculous strawmandering. So-called "rabid Warsies" have never claimed that any nor all of a Star Destroyer's weapons yield 200 gigatons/shot. I DARE you to find quotes from ONE widely recognized "rabid Warsie" who's said as much.)

    Btw, I don't remember jack about a medical frigate in TESB ;-)

  • You're right, the 200GT figure is for the Acclamator's heavy TL's, the ISD's are actually far more powerfull!

  • The 200GT figures come from the MTL's the heavies pack a punch a coupl eof orders of magnitude higher. Their firepower levels were taken from various incidents (Asteroid destructions (specifically in ATOC), EU literature, and calcs for the infamous 'Base Delta Zero' Attack.

  • It seems there are no real physics equations that exactly describe the origins of the 200 gigaton figure. There are just too many variables to derive such specific power estimates using just incidents

  • Which is why the Attack of the Clones Incredible Cross Sections book (which is considered canon) can be used instead to determine exactly how much firepower it does have.

  • Which proves just how durable durasteel armor plating really is.

    Now, the Enterprise D, it can't even take a glacing blow to its engine nacelles without triggering a massive warp core failure that destroys the whole ship.

  • I say again that in my opinion phasers and turbolasers have similar power. Therefore the Galaxy-class would last a little bit longer than that. What's more they'd go to evasive manuvers, they wouldn't sit and take it. The Star Destroyer would most likely win though, in one-on-one combat.

  • See, the problem in objective debates is that no one gives a jack shit about your opinion.

    It's not what you know or think you know- it's what you can prove!

    Can you prove your statement?

  • Similar power? The turbolasers have millions of gigawatts of output and phasers have around four gigawatts. Also, the bolts from turbolasers travel extremely quickly. Evasive manuvers would be futile. A single shot would be a critical hit against even a Sovereign. With the barrages that SDs give, not even the best ship in the Fed fleet could survive for more than thirty seconds, and that's extremely generous.

  • Meh the galaxy died too slowly, was the star destroyer only using its point defence weapons or something. Really poe this isn't fair :P, the entire AQ couldn't stand up to a star destroyer.

  • Great job. Need more stardestroyer visuals.

  • Technically excellent, remarkable mods, but that's all there is to it.

  • the Turbolasers arent much different from the klingon disruptors on a bird of prey... so its much likely possible that they can be fired extremely quick, before the galaxy could power up their shields... and if so i think a heavy barrage from a star destroyer could be enough to finish it. deadly to star wars ships would be the tricobalt torpedoes... those are extremely powerful, using subspace-explosives, because the star wars ships arnt very manouverable.

    but anyway, like the movie :)

  • What are those tricobalt torps? Are those the same thing which have been used to penetrate borg shields, destroying the cube with a single hit?

    Because if it is, it ain't going to help a jack shit against an ISD!

    Remember, apart of the shields, borg cubes aren't armored, while the ISD's have a several meters thick armor plating!

  • No, what you're thinking about is Transphasic torpedoes. He's talking about the thing Janeway used to destroy the Caretaker array

  • Oh, sorry, my bad! I have seen only a hanfull of Voyager episodes.

    But nonetheless, I still havent seen any calcs regarding it's yield, or it's effectiveness heavily armored targets.

  • Appearantly, you've never read a technical manual on the amount of power that goes into a navigational deflector on a starship or the massive amounts and different kinds of radiation that thing can deflect... at incredibly long distances nonetheless.

    BUT, I never said the case was true. I merely recited the source for statement. I like how you jumped on it to try and defend it tho lol. Quite entertaining. But, I'll leave it at your comment. Not up to arguing Star Trek vs star wars.

  • Apparently, you don't know what the expression "Base Delta Zero means"

    It's an orbital bomradment- commenced by only three ISD's- so violent that it melts the crust of the planet and blow it's atmosphere into the space within several hours!

    It takes triple digit teraton level guns to do this in the said timeframe! That's how we know that the ISD's are so powerful.

    P.S.: The Technical Manuals aren't canon...

  • This "no lasers" fallacy is so much wrong on so many level that I can't understand how a can sentient being

    actually believe it?!

    Even if we ignore for a second that Star Wars turbolasers aren't lasers (only because they act nothing like lasers),do you think the deflector dish is some kind of magical device without any power limits?!

    It's like saying that because the M1 tank is immune to rocks being thrown at it, it can also take a hit from a hundred meters in diameter boulder!

  • Yeah I agree. Even when I saw that episode before I even read anything about the ST v SW debate, I naturally assumed they meant that the particular lasers from those weak, small ships wouldn't defeat their shields, not any laser ever. Besides, the Borg cube did a number on them with their cutting laser in another episode.

  • Naturally.

    But again, SW turbolasers aren't lasers- they just don't act like them!

  • Exept the superlaser but that would definetly vaporise a trek ship

  • As for the video I think it's not bad. Some room for improvement. There's some better bridges in BC that can be used & MUCH better Gal models that can be used. I don't like the fact that they just show up and get obliterated and the crew seem incompitent rather than trained officers. Half the time they aren't sure what they're reading on their own consoles and the destruction of the ship just happened way too fast. Other than that though it does set up the plot pretty well.

  • "2. "star wars weapons couldn't even penetrate the deflector shield"..where did you get a reference for that"

    The reference came straight from a TNG episode I think, (its been forever since I've seen it, but) Riker says something to the effect 'lasers won't even penetrate navigational sheilding.' And then later on Data says something like 'since they don't use phased energy' or 'excited photons' or something like that.

  • Guess what Einstein, lasers ARE "excited photons." And stars don't use "phased energy" or other meaningless technobabble yet are still a threat to Federation starships.

  • Hey, that would be why they laugh at the Borg every time a cube deploys the cutting laser, right?

    Oh wait, you're just dumb.

  • Oh yeah i forgot about the borg cuting laser. thats a laser isnt it so howcome that made a hole in the enterprise huh? another pointless argument bites the dust thaks to the combined power of a few thinking people:P

  • THAT WAS AWESOME!!!

  • Lord of the Rings! Frodo!! Bilbo Baggins is all I got to say to yous!!!!

  • That was great; I loved it.

  • wow wow wow

    attention all geeks.

    1. Calm down, its only a movie

    2. "star wars weapons couldn't even penetrate the deflector shield"..where did you get a reference for that

    3. the SD is massive compaired to the fed ship..of course it would distroy it.

    4.ytmndman is right...cudes are tiny compaired to the death star (its practically the size of a planet/moon).

  • Yeah an and the cube picard met (the first contact with the borg) wasnt much biger than an ISD.

  • star wars weapons couldn't even penetrate the deflector shield....

  • Yes they could.

  • Ofcourse, a couple of lame-ass lasers from an underdeveloped civilization is the same as a several TERATON worth heavy turbolaser from a mile long ship!

    Besides, SW turbolasers aren't lasers!

    Why? Cuz they act nothing like lasers!

  • HA HA! Elfdart got blowed up!

    Nicely done, Poe. ;)

  • Compared to the death star, a tactical cube would be a bug on the windshield.

  • oh. irritating / just happened to get flattened. Wouldnt the borg cube be more of a disintegrated rather then flattened

  • there is one show down in the star trek vs star wars genre that I, and im sure many others, would love to see. a fully built 2nd death star (technically 3rd seeing as there is the prototype at the maw R&D) vs the borg tacticle cube

  • Why?

    The results would be the same anyway- the cube gets grinded to dust by the surface turbolasers!

  • Forget the guns, ramming speed!

  • Any idea when the second part will be coming out? Also, what does the name "Last Bastion" reference to? It wouldn't have to do with a certain trekkie's self proclamation about his website, would it?

  • 1. I just began pre-production on part 2. I have to tweak the Trek uniforms and do the registries for the other Trek ships.

    2. Hehehe!

  • Just curious, but by "registries" does that mean that you need to get Paramount's permission to use their shit designs? Or is this for something else?

  • Ah crap, I meant "ship designs".

  • No, the "registries" are the ship's names on the hull. For instance, the USS Compliance NCC-1138!

  • That was pretty cool :) Please make more.

  • Interesting, though certainly hope the next engagement will be a little more challenging for the ISD...

  • that was awesome,i cant wait for the continuations, keep up the great work dude :)

  • Very nicely done. As a nitpicky comment to Adun3, although star wars weaponry have the word "lasers" in them, they aren't lasers.

  • Then why do they have the word "lasers" in them? They are just more powerful versions of lasers which is why they are called turbolasers

  • Why do phaser rifles have the word "rifle" in the name. They aren't rifles.

  • A rifle is a general term for a long range personal firearm. A laser is a much more technical, limited term. If turbolasers really were different they would have had a different name

  • No, "rifle" is a technical term, too. It refers to the rifling inside a barrel that causes the round to spin when it is fired. "Rifle" has been adopted to mean "longarm" even when the weapon has no rifling in it. Same thing for "laser" in Star Wars.

  • They're also referred to as "laser cannons". Do you think they're crewed by pirates who pour black powder and metal balls down the muzzle?

  • There´s no way that could have happened. Federation ships are immune to lasers. Pretty good film, though.

  • They were immune to lasers from two tiny, weak ships, not a huge battleship. If a bulletproof vest is immune to bullets, does that make it immune to artillery fire?

  • Keep in mind a Star Destroyer's Turbo laser is more along the lines of a plasma weapon. The laser just acts to ignite the plasme.

  • nice work-wcp

  • Nicely done. Reminds me of Bambi vs Godzilla, hehe.

  • Hey, that was cool, can you add some other ships from shows like Stargate and Doctor Who too?

  • How did you make that? Is that from "The Movies" video game? Its either that or maybe Sims 2? Either way pretty cool. But should of seen more of the Star Destroyer.

  • You'll see more of the Star Destroyer soon! Yes, this was made with "The Movies" using greenscreen backgrounds, and "Bridge Commander" for the Trek sets and ships.

  • very cool, I liked it.

  • Well made, bring us the following parts please! :)

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