I love all the books, this series definitely doesn't do the book justice...... here in Italy the show hasn't been broadcast... so far I think Richard is too young, Darken Rahl is... bland... I don't want to be offensive, I just imagined them different. also the People's Palace... it was not a medieval castle... at least not in my mind!!!
I hope Robert Jordan never does this for WoT b/c if this is any indication its a terrible idea ...if your not going to make it the exact same as the book and original story then dont even make the correlation between book and TV ... pathetic and who the fuck are these n00b actors ... Xene and Hercules were both better than this shit in they're time and they werent that good
pfff men it's a the most fucking shit which i have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i red al the books of terry goodkind and i never thought this look this.... they completly destroyed the original history and now it's a fucking movie for kids 7-13 years old.... pffffffffff
But.. if you just ignore the fact that it's supposed to be like the books. (just like Golden Compass and all others) The series can be quite enjoyable.
ummm so what, its why at the beginning of each episode it says BASED on, the producers can do what they want with the show, and in my opinon they are doing a damn amazing job!
the first time i saw this on television, i got caught right away. craig horner and bridget are awesome actors and the storyline is very creative as well. the books are great, and i hope they make another season after this and maybe it'll be something big. :D
So, the hero risked his life for a girl he knows nothing about, and is chased by authority, and made a man kill his own fellow soldiers, just cause she's in white and is beautiful? That surely didn't make sense to me <.<....
Sorry to say this but if you have read all of the books and have been a big fan of them like myself and then they come out with a series that strays far away from the books then you may be in for some major disappointment. This series DOES NOT do the books justice.
The books are great but the tv-show really is shitty. Bad scripting, small budget, mediocre acting. Bridget Regan is the only ray of light in an otherwise horrible production, where character depth apparently was something the writers completely forgot to add.
So...I just stumbled onto this...and though it didn't catch me long to catch onto what it was, it probably wouldn't have taken me half as long if the characters looked anything like how I'd imagined.
I wish they'd picked more fitting actors--Richard isn't big enough, Zedd isn't wiry enough, and for goodness sake, can't they pronounce Kahlan's name right? It's Kah-len, not KAY-len--if the A was long, there wouldn't be an H in it.
this is the best stuff ive ever seen on tv in a long time. i love the slow motion shots & the set designing , it make's you feel like your in that place in time
wtf!?!?!!?she got shot by an arrow and then the other girl doesn't help wtf!?!?!?!?!i mean come on!!!and then she finaly falls off and dies wow..........lol haven't watched it all but my gf says its neat.....
You know, I was half expecting Hugh Jackman to play the role of richardm, nainly because I thought he could capture Richard's character, but they got this guy, who seems just a bit too young, but does a decent job.
I hate that everybody is saying that this sucks and that the books is so much better. But for us that haven't read the books don't look at it that way. I personally really like this and I'm not a fan of reading so I think that it is a pleasure to watch!
Do not fekking watch this show if you fekking compare it to the book. Shows/movies near and mostly, always fail the books... save for the Godfather 1-2. I like this show, and have never read the book, maybe one day. But the 'tards comparing are going to be sorely disappointed, duh. It's BASED on his book, it's not going to be EXACT to the book. It's going to stray, and stray incredibly even.
Doesn't look that bad! Kahlan looks awesome, I am not that happy with Richard, he looks so young! I'm curious too which extent they will follow the storyline of the books!
I agree Richard is too young. Looks good though. My advice is to forget the storyline and just enjoy the show because otherwise you will be disappointed.
It seems people either liked it or hated it. Generally, people who are avid of the books seem to hate it. Frankly, the books started stinking after they killed off Darken Rhal.
this show is amazing, even though i think i missed the premiere, i've seen every one since, they're so good, and Richard is SUPER HOTT!!! holy snap lol
AWESOME!! AMAZING!! I love the music they use, and the use of the camera is amazing, with the speed ups and slow downs. I have been watching it here in the US and I absolutely love the show. Kahaln is amazing, my favorite character, and Richard is really good as well. This is such an awesome show!
Eh, not as bad as some of you guys are saying. Compared to other syndicated shows like this anyway. But they did seem to go out of their way to make things different.
On the plus side, the actress playing Kahlan is just the right kind of beautiful.
I've read the first book, and richard(the gorner guy) has the the bone necklace( yes it's a bone) like until the middle of the book. No one gets it from him this show is stupid and an insult to the amazing work of Terry Goodkind!!!!!!! Arrgghhhh!!!!!!! Honestly, I don't know how people can take somthing so amazing and turn it into this crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read the entire series. And I couldn't agree with you more. They took a fantastic story and turned it into a cheap show. Bummer, I guess we can't win them all.
You are Jagang to my Richard Rahl. Emperor Jagang from the books was a collectivist too. He taught his soldiers altruistic sacrifice to the collective. Richard defeats him :)
We will fry Richards individualistic anus like an union ring muahaha. btw what if I individually decide to be collectivistic then who am I?? hahah no one forced me was my own individual choice. haha there you go the whole philosophy sucks. It's just a futile attempt at imitating freedom. But it's all bs cause freedom does not exist so there is no individualistic choice and there is no such thing as individualism we're all connected and depending on eachother. Freedom is death, Life is a prison!
it's all a romantic illusion of self determination. But consider this, would you be individualistic if you wouldn't be born into an individualistic culture? My guess is NO and this goes for 99% of the world population. Same goes for religion and other political believes. I bet you think Democracy is the best political system? Not surprising just shows that you have no self determination lol.. And to make matters worse, consider how much of your DNA has decide how you would look or act..
I also assume you have not invented your own language, and you also wear clothes and listen to pretty much the same music we all do, I can go on and on showing you individualism is a fantasy. A very appealing fantasy conserving freedom, but still is a fantasy. The whole point of freedom is that its your own choice,but when 99% of our choices are not our own we have no freedom. The only reason we do not experience bad feelings about this is cause we accept them as something we do not oppose
It does not surprise me that a collectivist would see life as a prison. Your idea of Interdependence is Enslavement to other Men.
No I do not think Democracy is the best political system. Because iam aware enough to know that it is Mob Rule. Its where the Majority decides for the Minority or the Individual. Only to the Collectivist does Might = Right I believe in Sovereign Republics, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
of course you do, but wait did you made those things up? uhm no you did not. I bet 99% of Americans believe in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. lol does that make you individual? I think not. From the biologic, psychological and even evolutionary point of view (basically all sciences) we have less freedom/control then we are controlled.We speak English,we went to school, wear clothes, been thought how to eat, to behave, to arrange our lives, work family home... ALL CONTROL
another flow you make about collectivism lol but I guess it is constant with what your government has been screaming for the past decades. lol If your really want to be individualistic in the western world you should become a commy :D join the party comrade :D And no collectivism is absolutely not about oppression, it's about fair distribution of common goods , we have had :( (soviet union is gone) more freedom than we have now in a capitalist society!
btw I was talking about "prison" not out of collectivist view, but out of scientific view (sociology and social psychology is my field of expertise). But let me give you an example. In the Soviet Union everything is of everyone(technically)so I always was swimming in the black sea happy and free whenever I wanted. The communism collapsed, dirty capitalist came and privatized everything, suddenly they build a fence around the beach and I now have to pay to swim :( This is your freedom? It's theft
Well you sure do have a Collectivist view point of life. Ive never heard these thoughts that Language, Music or Clothes are systems of control. Ive always thought of them as individualistic expressions. So all commies think like that eh ? Tell us more...
if you're interested I recommend to see the documentary by a well known BBC journalist Adam Curtis called "The Trap: What happened to our dream of freedom". There are 3 parts but all worth watching its anything but boring and very informative!
But as far as it goes for clothes and music etc.. yeah sure they are systems of control. Its all about profit maximization. When they used to sell you one type of pants, they make same pants in 10 colors, who cares go express yourself..lol In the meantime you all dress the same. Its just a point of view. What is control and what is freedom. Its so subjective. If you look at a group of hippies you can see a collective people who dress the same,. But try to say that to their faces lol.
in the end we are all people, we are all biologically the same. By choosing your own clothes music etc...you also define yourself. You say I am for instance a hard rocker or something. You say I belong to the category Hard Rock. You voluntarily put yourself into a box. You cage yourself. But what if everyone would have the same clothes, it would mean we are undefined. We are free. Like we are naked we all are naked... :D Naked is the same outfit.
I guess what I'm saying is that it's all subjective. And depends on the point of view. If you do not oppose wearing the same clothes that could be just as well your "expression" and would mean freedom. freedom in itself is just a state of mind a feeling if you wish. the only problem is that these capitalists have convinced us to oppose collectivism and yeah then collectivism becomes not-freedom. But the fact of the matter is its not freedom simply cause we oppose it.
and what is this obsession with expressing ourselves? What is this? If you are individualists what does it matter what other people should think of you? And also how come you think you know yourself and who you are? Whats the deal with that? I bet most of us dont know ourselves just see some commercial and go buy the thing. Thats why commercials are made to sell as much of it as possible. And commercials work so most of the people actually do choose same stuff... if given the choice :D
In the end it all comes down to how we humans think. We all live in societies and are herd animals. We all depend on each other thats why we have language and communicate. Our lives are all mapped out for us, child goes to school, grows up must work, builds family and passes on lol. I'm not saying something is wrong with that, I'm just saying let's not by hypocrites. It's all a system of control. But it's the way we humans operate. We have to categorize label and predict to be at peace.
you see when with communism, the state controls how far you can go with your freedom. In a capitalist society economy or profit controls the same. If you have a lot of cash you can do pretty much what ever the f you like right? If you how ever are less fortunate well you have less freedom then some animals at the zoo.
So it's all an illusion it's just that in a capitalist system they make it so sneaky that you actually can't blame anyone but yourself. Simply cause you accept their capitalist rules
Just ask yourself what would happen if you said tomorrow I dont want to play by your rules. I dont want to participate in your game. I want out. I do not obey any law for we are born naked without a manual. I am not gonna go to work or pay for food. etc.. See what happens lol say I dont know what tha fucks happening here and none of you do. You just invented all the laws and you can obey them not me. See what'll happen to ya :D
FREEDDOOMMM lol yeah right!! But if all this and much more doesnt bother you well then I guess you can call yourself free :D Just dont think for a second that people in collectivist societies to whom that system doesnt bother either are less free cause you are looking only from your own point of view. Nothing more !!
You know what I mean? If we really think about it there are so many things that should bother us. For instance why tha fuck do they decide how life should be arranged? Why do they take land and sell it to us? WHY should I pay to burry my bones in the ground when I die? Why do they get to have the land??? Why? And the answer is simple really cause they TOOK IT!! The capitalist masters took EVERYTHING!! with force of course. And to get something I must work for them and buy lol. wtf...
They took it through work though. Not neccessarily moral work, but what're you gonna do? If you think govt doesn't have a legit claim on land, then you're stuck waiting for (or working to cause) their collapse. I'd prefer a slower transition, but to each his own.
yeah you are right it's not very simple. Yes there are people doing something about it, and there certainly are better ways of arranging societies etc... but I personally have absolutely no solutions. :S In fact I am institutionalized to a degree I dont know anything different, I wouldnt survive in the wild I cannot hunt or anything. So pretty much stuck with this systems. It just eats you from inside when you see and understand whats going on. It's so fucking unfair... :S
You got me curious though - what exactly are the laws about burial?
I wonder if you could start a business offering cheaper burials (no expensive coffin, no dolling up the corpse) and maybe instead of a tombstone a little more about the person's interests/beliefs etc?
Sorry I have no expertise on the burial laws lol. I just know it's ridiculously expensive and that it's not their soil to sell in the first place. It's of no one, we are just born and its just there.
And everything is based on agreement. Like we agree that 100 dollars is valued more than 10 so whenever you go to a store this agreement applies. But in essence it's nothing more than a silly thought. (necessary in this kind of society, but still silly). Its fascinating how money works and is being created lol. It's all so silly. So if everything is based on agreement, then I just dont agree with the idea that it's their land :S
property is theft! cause the sea is not of anyone it's of everyone the same goes for oil, gas or any other thing in this world. Its just there it's not of anyone. Why are we fooled into believing property exists? Individualism is survival of the fittest nothing more than a savage life in a jungle. Collectivism is order, civil society and respect and carrying for your own fellow men :D Join us Comrade. and ps sorry for spamming you with my thoughts... :S I gotta learn to control myself :D
so why would I have less freedom if I would not oppose collectivism ? Only if one would oppose something freedom gets in conflict. So yeah the whole American "freedom" screaming competition is just a comedy. As if to convince themselves FREEEDOOOMM lol Such thing as individualism does not exist. Especially not for humans cause we are herd animals. And if you knew ho much of your brain goes unconsciously you would never say freedom exists :D LONG LIVE PRISON WOOHOO
Richard seems so young...i'd imagine thru reading these books that at least he looks more like "Aragorn -from lord of the ring" type...manly, mature, taller!
finally a t.v. series based on my fave epic fantasy series :D
a lot of stuff in the live version differs from the book, but in a good way. it keeps even the readers of Terry Goodkind's novels guessing what's going to happen next ep :)
is it just me or is the hole american accent not work that well for this type of flick. i dont mean to sound ungrateful or nothing but i would tend to move more towards the european accents. it just sounds alot more believable to me. awsome concept but it sounds a bit too hollewood for me, ill tune in though
From the looks of this trailer, they've already screwed it up! I've been looking forward to the show, but the actors are all wrong (I thought Richard would be more rugged looking, and Kahlan more beautiful), and is Kahlan looking for Richard, not Zedd? And of course there's the obvious issue of making the story PG. They should have made it a movie instead.
i wish the books did justice to the books... up until the 5th or 6th book i was really enjoying myself. Pillars of creation SUCKED! And why so muc recapping on later books? If you're reading the 8th book then you better have read the others! I dont know about this series..
I agree. The best book for me was the 6th book, Faith of the Fallen, and from there things went downhill. But I haven't read the last book yet, which may or may not have redeemed the previous 4 books...
The whole series is awsome. These are the best books i've ever read. To say any of them stunk just means you have no idea what I good book is. People who say wheel of time was better definately have no right to complain about recaps and dragging story line on in this series.
Wtf? What's Wheel of Time??? And sorry, but if you take out ALL the filler from these books, each books page count would drop by at LEAST 200. Terry Goodkind MILKED his series foe eveything it was worth, desperate to make extra money on extra books. To sit there and tell me everybook was great despite these INSULTS to the reader is either ignorance or... I don't know what. This series FAILS to realize its full POTENTIAL, no where is that more apparent than in the last 4 or 5 books.
the guy who directs some of the episodes is Michael Hurst. The guy who played iolous from Hercules the legendary journeys.
shotojojo2005 2 years ago 25
I love all the books, this series definitely doesn't do the book justice...... here in Italy the show hasn't been broadcast... so far I think Richard is too young, Darken Rahl is... bland... I don't want to be offensive, I just imagined them different. also the People's Palace... it was not a medieval castle... at least not in my mind!!!
(sorry for my english ^__^)
joeyblu84 2 years ago 34
sucks ass
love the books
anton1123581321 2 years ago
This series sucked ass, not true to the books at all
static6911 2 years ago
who reads books when u can watch the movie
tommyakatytheman 2 years ago
I hope Robert Jordan never does this for WoT b/c if this is any indication its a terrible idea ...if your not going to make it the exact same as the book and original story then dont even make the correlation between book and TV ... pathetic and who the fuck are these n00b actors ... Xene and Hercules were both better than this shit in they're time and they werent that good
Blunt6Force6Trauma 2 years ago
You know that Robert Jordan has died, don't you?
winkelmander 2 years ago 104
why? why did they remove the good details or alter them to worse!
this is a load of bullshit, im not watching this!
ympanson 2 years ago
they reeeeeeeeally love their slo mo don't they?
mukhlisz 2 years ago 347
its tv
lazydude250 2 years ago 8
is it a movie or a television series??
can anyone tell me all the books with their right course, please??
chocolately12 2 years ago
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ultimatesaged 2 years ago
I love Lucy Lawless, shes so hot. I used to watch all the Xena episodes when i was younger. This show seem awesome, gonna watch it =]
xLovepie 2 years ago 8
Never read the books but I love the show.
Backfromthedeadguy 2 years ago 14
pfff men it's a the most fucking shit which i have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i red al the books of terry goodkind and i never thought this look this.... they completly destroyed the original history and now it's a fucking movie for kids 7-13 years old.... pffffffffff
Egrashichev 2 years ago
Goodkind should never have sold those rights.
But.. if you just ignore the fact that it's supposed to be like the books. (just like Golden Compass and all others) The series can be quite enjoyable.
Siddhin 2 years ago 14
I love the book, but that trailer was NOT impressive...
I can't count how many things are inaccurate
Alura11 2 years ago 5
ummm so what, its why at the beginning of each episode it says BASED on, the producers can do what they want with the show, and in my opinon they are doing a damn amazing job!
pixiegirl1492 2 years ago 20
my brothers in this XD
XP3666 2 years ago
ta bueno garx me vere la serie
ErikJerez 2 years ago
This looks exceptionally egregious. No wonder. I've read "Wizard's First Rule," and it's pretty bad to begin with.
Zaothus 2 years ago
the first time i saw this on television, i got caught right away. craig horner and bridget are awesome actors and the storyline is very creative as well. the books are great, and i hope they make another season after this and maybe it'll be something big. :D
shadzko 2 years ago 4
Looks very, VERY bad...
Barremlol 2 years ago
I'm growing so tired of slow motion... it was cool in matrix and that's it... reminds me of the south park episode 'lesbos'
xxPenumbraxx 2 years ago
yeah the slomo effects seemed rather hilarious in some moments.
StylusLX 2 years ago
this movie makes me think of modern days. i cant see how this looks like its mid evil. the only thing mid evil is what they are wearing.
freakman420 2 years ago
i love this show
AndrEwsskon 3 years ago 5
C'mon, first the quad had 5 members, then 4 (like they should) and richard was actin big boy in the beginnin? That didn't match my ideas....
JoranCia 3 years ago
So, the hero risked his life for a girl he knows nothing about, and is chased by authority, and made a man kill his own fellow soldiers, just cause she's in white and is beautiful? That surely didn't make sense to me <.<....
Danjaru 3 years ago 4
cuz ur an idiot
AndrEwsskon 3 years ago
i had to admitt in the begginnig i thought i was some rip of of lord of the rings but its a really good show one of my favorites
musiclverrxo 3 years ago 2
Sorry to say this but if you have read all of the books and have been a big fan of them like myself and then they come out with a series that strays far away from the books then you may be in for some major disappointment. This series DOES NOT do the books justice.
Fucktacticus 3 years ago
THANK YOU JockeOhlund !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Slytheinprincess1 3 years ago
The books are great but the tv-show really is shitty. Bad scripting, small budget, mediocre acting. Bridget Regan is the only ray of light in an otherwise horrible production, where character depth apparently was something the writers completely forgot to add.
JockeOhlund 3 years ago
i love this series, the legend of the seeker the best 4 ever
giannosrider 3 years ago 3
So...I just stumbled onto this...and though it didn't catch me long to catch onto what it was, it probably wouldn't have taken me half as long if the characters looked anything like how I'd imagined.
I wish they'd picked more fitting actors--Richard isn't big enough, Zedd isn't wiry enough, and for goodness sake, can't they pronounce Kahlan's name right? It's Kah-len, not KAY-len--if the A was long, there wouldn't be an H in it.
linksage 3 years ago
I love the book, I haven't seen the show yet.
TheGprimeFanClub 3 years ago
great show i watch it
spartagod99 3 years ago 2
100% agree, one of my fav. shows
AndrEwsskon 3 years ago 5
this is the best stuff ive ever seen on tv in a long time. i love the slow motion shots & the set designing , it make's you feel like your in that place in time
paris4la 3 years ago 2
im not realy impressed.
sceanery that makes it looke like this movie is a rip off of Lord of the Rings.
and some rather bad acting.
deadman00 3 years ago
It's filmed in the same place fool. But it does look like pure cheese.
mikeybosson 3 years ago
i am not a fool i just did not know where they filmed it. and its a shame they could not pick a different location.
to give it a different look.
deadman00 3 years ago
!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRIDGET REGAN !!!
ldd113 3 years ago
wtf!?!?!!?she got shot by an arrow and then the other girl doesn't help wtf!?!?!?!?!i mean come on!!!and then she finaly falls off and dies wow..........lol haven't watched it all but my gf says its neat.....
sparten117end 3 years ago
Too many slow motions! Gawd damnit!
dimezanime88 3 years ago 4
You know, I was half expecting Hugh Jackman to play the role of richardm, nainly because I thought he could capture Richard's character, but they got this guy, who seems just a bit too young, but does a decent job.
Killerofstupidpeople 3 years ago
I hate that everybody is saying that this sucks and that the books is so much better. But for us that haven't read the books don't look at it that way. I personally really like this and I'm not a fan of reading so I think that it is a pleasure to watch!
<3
SpesialCecilie 3 years ago
Do not fekking watch this show if you fekking compare it to the book. Shows/movies near and mostly, always fail the books... save for the Godfather 1-2. I like this show, and have never read the book, maybe one day. But the 'tards comparing are going to be sorely disappointed, duh. It's BASED on his book, it's not going to be EXACT to the book. It's going to stray, and stray incredibly even.
gabbylu 3 years ago 2
Stink.
trinnytrinnytrinny 3 years ago
wow love the body! can i touch it?
devilangel82 3 years ago 5
look at the size of the male actor's head compared to the actress. wow. the fact they kissed is....physically rejectable.
oh well, at least he's not british.
oceandrainer 3 years ago
They fucked this one up bad.
Buy the book instead.
mangeese 3 years ago
this looks really good. i am reading the books. is this just going to be a movie or a tv series?
LordRahl9578 3 years ago
Doesn't look that bad! Kahlan looks awesome, I am not that happy with Richard, he looks so young! I'm curious too which extent they will follow the storyline of the books!
cassopeia16 3 years ago
I agree Richard is too young. Looks good though. My advice is to forget the storyline and just enjoy the show because otherwise you will be disappointed.
chopstyx1 3 years ago
It seems people either liked it or hated it. Generally, people who are avid of the books seem to hate it. Frankly, the books started stinking after they killed off Darken Rhal.
CoolDojo9000 3 years ago
I like it.
pickard72 3 years ago
this pisses me off so much. how could Terry goodkind allow this to happen.
Zadeass 3 years ago
Richard looks waaaaaaaaay too young. Also, he looks small and boyish. Not the Richard I imagined from the books.
maddingo12 3 years ago
technically he is supposed to be boyish in the first novel but then bulks up
Zadeass 3 years ago 2
i agree with that i also think that kahlan is blonde and so is darken rahl
LordRahl9578 3 years ago
this show is amazing, even though i think i missed the premiere, i've seen every one since, they're so good, and Richard is SUPER HOTT!!! holy snap lol
lissylynn92 3 years ago 2
AWESOME!! AMAZING!! I love the music they use, and the use of the camera is amazing, with the speed ups and slow downs. I have been watching it here in the US and I absolutely love the show. Kahaln is amazing, my favorite character, and Richard is really good as well. This is such an awesome show!
pixiegirl1492 3 years ago 4
better than i expected, i look forward to when
it gets to NZ!
maaky69 3 years ago 2
Wow. CRAg is fine as hell. He match richard very much.
pangiaxiong 3 years ago 2
woah
linky2552 3 years ago
what's the book called? 'legend of the seeker'?
mopotter17 3 years ago
the first book is called "wizard's first rule"
Scythe1990 3 years ago
cool, thanks! i will have to read it...
mopotter17 3 years ago
Eh, not as bad as some of you guys are saying. Compared to other syndicated shows like this anyway. But they did seem to go out of their way to make things different.
On the plus side, the actress playing Kahlan is just the right kind of beautiful.
transhuman3030 3 years ago
Good thing I read the book first cause I sure wouldn't have read it after seeing this.
slmasiak 3 years ago
Does Lucy Lawless appears in that show?
SilviaShirubia 3 years ago
I've read the first book, and richard(the gorner guy) has the the bone necklace( yes it's a bone) like until the middle of the book. No one gets it from him this show is stupid and an insult to the amazing work of Terry Goodkind!!!!!!! Arrgghhhh!!!!!!! Honestly, I don't know how people can take somthing so amazing and turn it into this crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bladematt65 3 years ago
are there other books? i didn't know it was a series.
raspberri8 3 years ago
I read the entire series. And I couldn't agree with you more. They took a fantastic story and turned it into a cheap show. Bummer, I guess we can't win them all.
slmasiak 3 years ago
omgosh i cant wait to see this!!
looks promising.
dArkKfaIry 3 years ago
lucyyyyyyyyyyyy ^^ xenaaaaaaaaaa
Justice0o0 3 years ago 4
btw the dyeing chick in has a nice rack :D To bad she's gone, I wouldnt mind laying my eyes on those things for a while longer :D
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
fucking pig
Dawnybear14 3 years ago
These wonderful HEROES make me tear up with Joy ! I love the books and the Philosophy that they are based in: Individualism.
Xare420 3 years ago
I am collectivist, resistance is futile you will be assimilated :D But really I am collectivist :D We will crush you one day muhahaha
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
Yes you are my enemy.
You are Jagang to my Richard Rahl. Emperor Jagang from the books was a collectivist too. He taught his soldiers altruistic sacrifice to the collective. Richard defeats him :)
Xare420 3 years ago
We will fry Richards individualistic anus like an union ring muahaha. btw what if I individually decide to be collectivistic then who am I?? hahah no one forced me was my own individual choice. haha there you go the whole philosophy sucks. It's just a futile attempt at imitating freedom. But it's all bs cause freedom does not exist so there is no individualistic choice and there is no such thing as individualism we're all connected and depending on eachother. Freedom is death, Life is a prison!
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
it's all a romantic illusion of self determination. But consider this, would you be individualistic if you wouldn't be born into an individualistic culture? My guess is NO and this goes for 99% of the world population. Same goes for religion and other political believes. I bet you think Democracy is the best political system? Not surprising just shows that you have no self determination lol.. And to make matters worse, consider how much of your DNA has decide how you would look or act..
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
I also assume you have not invented your own language, and you also wear clothes and listen to pretty much the same music we all do, I can go on and on showing you individualism is a fantasy. A very appealing fantasy conserving freedom, but still is a fantasy. The whole point of freedom is that its your own choice,but when 99% of our choices are not our own we have no freedom. The only reason we do not experience bad feelings about this is cause we accept them as something we do not oppose
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
It does not surprise me that a collectivist would see life as a prison. Your idea of Interdependence is Enslavement to other Men.
No I do not think Democracy is the best political system. Because iam aware enough to know that it is Mob Rule. Its where the Majority decides for the Minority or the Individual. Only to the Collectivist does Might = Right I believe in Sovereign Republics, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
Xare420 3 years ago
of course you do, but wait did you made those things up? uhm no you did not. I bet 99% of Americans believe in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. lol does that make you individual? I think not. From the biologic, psychological and even evolutionary point of view (basically all sciences) we have less freedom/control then we are controlled.We speak English,we went to school, wear clothes, been thought how to eat, to behave, to arrange our lives, work family home... ALL CONTROL
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
another flow you make about collectivism lol but I guess it is constant with what your government has been screaming for the past decades. lol If your really want to be individualistic in the western world you should become a commy :D join the party comrade :D And no collectivism is absolutely not about oppression, it's about fair distribution of common goods , we have had :( (soviet union is gone) more freedom than we have now in a capitalist society!
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
btw I was talking about "prison" not out of collectivist view, but out of scientific view (sociology and social psychology is my field of expertise). But let me give you an example. In the Soviet Union everything is of everyone(technically)so I always was swimming in the black sea happy and free whenever I wanted. The communism collapsed, dirty capitalist came and privatized everything, suddenly they build a fence around the beach and I now have to pay to swim :( This is your freedom? It's theft
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
Well you sure do have a Collectivist view point of life. Ive never heard these thoughts that Language, Music or Clothes are systems of control. Ive always thought of them as individualistic expressions. So all commies think like that eh ? Tell us more...
Xare420 3 years ago
if you're interested I recommend to see the documentary by a well known BBC journalist Adam Curtis called "The Trap: What happened to our dream of freedom". There are 3 parts but all worth watching its anything but boring and very informative!
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
But as far as it goes for clothes and music etc.. yeah sure they are systems of control. Its all about profit maximization. When they used to sell you one type of pants, they make same pants in 10 colors, who cares go express yourself..lol In the meantime you all dress the same. Its just a point of view. What is control and what is freedom. Its so subjective. If you look at a group of hippies you can see a collective people who dress the same,. But try to say that to their faces lol.
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
in the end we are all people, we are all biologically the same. By choosing your own clothes music etc...you also define yourself. You say I am for instance a hard rocker or something. You say I belong to the category Hard Rock. You voluntarily put yourself into a box. You cage yourself. But what if everyone would have the same clothes, it would mean we are undefined. We are free. Like we are naked we all are naked... :D Naked is the same outfit.
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
I guess what I'm saying is that it's all subjective. And depends on the point of view. If you do not oppose wearing the same clothes that could be just as well your "expression" and would mean freedom. freedom in itself is just a state of mind a feeling if you wish. the only problem is that these capitalists have convinced us to oppose collectivism and yeah then collectivism becomes not-freedom. But the fact of the matter is its not freedom simply cause we oppose it.
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
and what is this obsession with expressing ourselves? What is this? If you are individualists what does it matter what other people should think of you? And also how come you think you know yourself and who you are? Whats the deal with that? I bet most of us dont know ourselves just see some commercial and go buy the thing. Thats why commercials are made to sell as much of it as possible. And commercials work so most of the people actually do choose same stuff... if given the choice :D
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
In the end it all comes down to how we humans think. We all live in societies and are herd animals. We all depend on each other thats why we have language and communicate. Our lives are all mapped out for us, child goes to school, grows up must work, builds family and passes on lol. I'm not saying something is wrong with that, I'm just saying let's not by hypocrites. It's all a system of control. But it's the way we humans operate. We have to categorize label and predict to be at peace.
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
you see when with communism, the state controls how far you can go with your freedom. In a capitalist society economy or profit controls the same. If you have a lot of cash you can do pretty much what ever the f you like right? If you how ever are less fortunate well you have less freedom then some animals at the zoo.
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
So it's all an illusion it's just that in a capitalist system they make it so sneaky that you actually can't blame anyone but yourself. Simply cause you accept their capitalist rules
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
Just ask yourself what would happen if you said tomorrow I dont want to play by your rules. I dont want to participate in your game. I want out. I do not obey any law for we are born naked without a manual. I am not gonna go to work or pay for food. etc.. See what happens lol say I dont know what tha fucks happening here and none of you do. You just invented all the laws and you can obey them not me. See what'll happen to ya :D
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
FREEDDOOMMM lol yeah right!! But if all this and much more doesnt bother you well then I guess you can call yourself free :D Just dont think for a second that people in collectivist societies to whom that system doesnt bother either are less free cause you are looking only from your own point of view. Nothing more !!
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
You know what I mean? If we really think about it there are so many things that should bother us. For instance why tha fuck do they decide how life should be arranged? Why do they take land and sell it to us? WHY should I pay to burry my bones in the ground when I die? Why do they get to have the land??? Why? And the answer is simple really cause they TOOK IT!! The capitalist masters took EVERYTHING!! with force of course. And to get something I must work for them and buy lol. wtf...
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
Ohhh theres actually somone who thinks like me...right on! LOL
chaoticprince 3 years ago
They took it through work though. Not neccessarily moral work, but what're you gonna do? If you think govt doesn't have a legit claim on land, then you're stuck waiting for (or working to cause) their collapse. I'd prefer a slower transition, but to each his own.
transhuman3030 3 years ago
yeah you are right it's not very simple. Yes there are people doing something about it, and there certainly are better ways of arranging societies etc... but I personally have absolutely no solutions. :S In fact I am institutionalized to a degree I dont know anything different, I wouldnt survive in the wild I cannot hunt or anything. So pretty much stuck with this systems. It just eats you from inside when you see and understand whats going on. It's so fucking unfair... :S
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
They say to us obey the rules do not lie, kill, cheat etc while they are cheaters, liars, killers :S
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
You got me curious though - what exactly are the laws about burial?
I wonder if you could start a business offering cheaper burials (no expensive coffin, no dolling up the corpse) and maybe instead of a tombstone a little more about the person's interests/beliefs etc?
transhuman3030 3 years ago
Sorry I have no expertise on the burial laws lol. I just know it's ridiculously expensive and that it's not their soil to sell in the first place. It's of no one, we are just born and its just there.
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
And everything is based on agreement. Like we agree that 100 dollars is valued more than 10 so whenever you go to a store this agreement applies. But in essence it's nothing more than a silly thought. (necessary in this kind of society, but still silly). Its fascinating how money works and is being created lol. It's all so silly. So if everything is based on agreement, then I just dont agree with the idea that it's their land :S
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
property is theft! cause the sea is not of anyone it's of everyone the same goes for oil, gas or any other thing in this world. Its just there it's not of anyone. Why are we fooled into believing property exists? Individualism is survival of the fittest nothing more than a savage life in a jungle. Collectivism is order, civil society and respect and carrying for your own fellow men :D Join us Comrade. and ps sorry for spamming you with my thoughts... :S I gotta learn to control myself :D
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
so why would I have less freedom if I would not oppose collectivism ? Only if one would oppose something freedom gets in conflict. So yeah the whole American "freedom" screaming competition is just a comedy. As if to convince themselves FREEEDOOOMM lol Such thing as individualism does not exist. Especially not for humans cause we are herd animals. And if you knew ho much of your brain goes unconsciously you would never say freedom exists :D LONG LIVE PRISON WOOHOO
CaucasianHonour 3 years ago
Richard seems so young...i'd imagine thru reading these books that at least he looks more like "Aragorn -from lord of the ring" type...manly, mature, taller!
angelslime 3 years ago
does anyone know who plays george cypher (richard's adopted father)??? is it jeremy roberts??
ladyhawk989 3 years ago
whr can i watch this can any1 tell me please
Chickofmanywonders 3 years ago
Finally!awesome preview!
nincompoop22 3 years ago
finally a t.v. series based on my fave epic fantasy series :D
a lot of stuff in the live version differs from the book, but in a good way. it keeps even the readers of Terry Goodkind's novels guessing what's going to happen next ep :)
cebukitty 3 years ago 3
anyone know where i can watch the whole episode?is missed it
guitar417 3 years ago
same here
dvader999 3 years ago
is it just me or is the hole american accent not work that well for this type of flick. i dont mean to sound ungrateful or nothing but i would tend to move more towards the european accents. it just sounds alot more believable to me. awsome concept but it sounds a bit too hollewood for me, ill tune in though
kiwikingofhearts 3 years ago
i agree with the accent thing. i always pictured the d'harans more germanic than anything else. i just hope they dont fuck up darken rahl
bomberman271 3 years ago
THEY DID FUCK UP DARKEN RAHL! :(
IceStormGamer 3 years ago
Best thing so far - hello shirtless male...
RiaMoriais 3 years ago
why did they have to kill the cleavage bearing blond first...WHY!!!!!!!!
All jokes aside this looks like it will be a great series.
Though they did stray from the book a bit but thats not always a bad thing if they do it right.
Twisted86 3 years ago
Looks great, Kahlan is exactly how I imagine and while Richard I thought was more brawn I can see how maybe I just misinterpreted him.
The Boundary looks awesome and thats exactly how the first book starts almost. Cant't wait so glad this will finally be made visual.
Jay2Kai 3 years ago
Huh. How did it never occur to me until this second that anyone with a bow could kill a confessor? You don't need four guys, just one with good aim.
dragoncat 3 years ago
LOL! I thought the exact same thing watching this too.
1GuySmiley1 3 years ago
From the looks of this trailer, they've already screwed it up! I've been looking forward to the show, but the actors are all wrong (I thought Richard would be more rugged looking, and Kahlan more beautiful), and is Kahlan looking for Richard, not Zedd? And of course there's the obvious issue of making the story PG. They should have made it a movie instead.
VeganKittyMommy 3 years ago
wtf it should be rated R
IceStormGamer 3 years ago
The Quad look like little weaklings. So dissapointing.
sinnisterone 3 years ago 2
i know! i cant fucking believe it
IceStormGamer 3 years ago
these are the same creators of the 90's adventure shows of hercules and xena. Trust me it's going to be good!
xena066 3 years ago
LOL, You're hilarious.
J3arc 3 years ago
the slow-mo gets kinda annoying
fatamoeba 3 years ago
I hope the show does justice to the book...
063631 3 years ago
i wish the books did justice to the books... up until the 5th or 6th book i was really enjoying myself. Pillars of creation SUCKED! And why so muc recapping on later books? If you're reading the 8th book then you better have read the others! I dont know about this series..
aidentroa 3 years ago
I agree. The best book for me was the 6th book, Faith of the Fallen, and from there things went downhill. But I haven't read the last book yet, which may or may not have redeemed the previous 4 books...
063631 3 years ago
no... no it doesnt.... just read chainfire and confessor. feel free to skim entire pages when bored.
aidentroa 3 years ago
The whole series is awsome. These are the best books i've ever read. To say any of them stunk just means you have no idea what I good book is. People who say wheel of time was better definately have no right to complain about recaps and dragging story line on in this series.
sinnisterone 3 years ago
Wtf? What's Wheel of Time??? And sorry, but if you take out ALL the filler from these books, each books page count would drop by at LEAST 200. Terry Goodkind MILKED his series foe eveything it was worth, desperate to make extra money on extra books. To sit there and tell me everybook was great despite these INSULTS to the reader is either ignorance or... I don't know what. This series FAILS to realize its full POTENTIAL, no where is that more apparent than in the last 4 or 5 books.
aidentroa 3 years ago
OMG!
i saw a little of the show on my facebook and i was like....O_O!
it is really good!
XENITS 3 years ago 2