Nooo. I hate that it ended this way. There should have been a genocide. This series could have been expanded in such an interesting way by discovering why and creating heroes. Great concept though. I really loved it.
As explained in DeniseVlogs: The soldier only shot the neighbor because he had escaped after being in the shuttle. Being in a shuttle means there are people and if he was to escape, he would have to injure other civilians. To continue, the scene when the soldier shot a bullet into the air was a warning sign to Roger and his family to stop. However, after stopping, a siren came on to warn EVERYONE who knows what the siren meant to go back to safety. To conclude, the world might end as predicted.
damn these short films wer pretty gud i got into them... but is this the last one are there goin to be anymore or wat... But props to the people who made this very gud!!
Things like this give me chills! When you dont want them to die, and you're like, NOOOOO GO GO WITH THEM!!! hahaha anyways, good work Denise! I loved it<3
A nice short story, Denise. I felt the only slightly weak acting link was Channing, but then her character was pretty 2-dimensional, so perhaps not all her fault. What would be very interesting would be to revisit this short story from the other perspectives: the Crazy Guy, the soldier, Adam and Nancy. I wonder what else we'd learn from their points of view.
Man, short films like these, only taking place in basically one location are great. We need to support more work like this, this is what I would love to do, make short films with good character study and writing.
@juliejuly4you The soldier only shot the neighbor because he had escaped after being in the shuttle. Being in a shuttle means there are people and if he was to escape, he would have to injure other civilians. To continue, the scene when the soldier shot a bullet into the air was a warning sign to Roger and his family to stop. However, after stopping, a siren came on to warn EVERYONE who knows what the siren meant to go back to safety. To conclude, the world might end as predicted.
@juliejuly4you Because he hurt people to escape and it's the end of the world, they weren't going to arrest him...they figured if he didn't want to go, he was dead anyway
@juliejuly4you because he ran from them and probably didnt listen to them when they told him to come back. also he probably threatened to tell everyone so they did waht they had to do
How could anyone not understand? The world was supposedly going to end by some meteor strike so the government uses shuttles to get everyone to safety. But the father, Roger, meets his neighbor who says it's a conspiracy to exterminate everyone, and when Roger sees his neighbor getting shot he believes he was right so he hides with his family as to not be taken away. They think they were right until the last seconds when the sky darkens, hence the end of the world was real.
I thought I completely understood this one...until the very end. why did everything go black? Did the world end late or something? Please explain Denise :)
It was actually very well done and thought out. Everything and everyone was on point. Love the kid-- good actors. Good script. Good direction. Good concept.
I dont like this series this much... i feel bad for saying it but i just dont like it... i love the other stuff though :) happy halloween for tomorrow :)
I have nothing to say to this. Its neither good nor bad, I think that makes it worse than bad becuz i dont feel any like or dislike for this. Its not even a MEH type of video. I cant help it being honest, thats what this little white box is for right? Im going super douchebag right now, sorry, Denise please for the LOVE of all this is HOLY in this world please learn how to write a FREAKING STORY!!! GOD DAMMIT!!! GAAHHHHRRR!!!!!! i dont even know what i just said , that how mad i am. aargh!!
This is stupid, If the world is ending how does going to a shelter help? And why would they shoot the guy. Please don't be another M Night Shyamalan.!
season 2 season 2 season 2 ..please... is it aliens...where are the shuttles taking people??? what are the shuttles??? SO many unanswered questions... <3
Ending was very predictable. However, not only was it predictable, it was unsatisfying. This plot has been done before. I've seen your past work - I know you're more creative than this! Just look at the continuing vlogs you have going about that teacher! Don't be afraid to try new things, and PLEASE avoid things this predictable and unsatisfying
um what happend at the ends what kind of world ending was that dont get me wrong i got the storie but idk about the black creeping over the window ...good job tho loved it
I can't wait for the commentary on this because I didn't get a lot of it? So they were getting taken to camps because the world was ending? What's going to save them in the camps, surely that will be destroyed too? And the world did actually end in the end right? :S
@totalH20 oh okay and know i ready my comment it dindt make much since three "points" aw ho well you got what i ment anyway It just says how the end of the world happends when they wake up it just started later then planned
I'll admit the ending was a little underwhelming compared to the rest of the DV Presents episodes. I dunno, it just didn't scream "season finale" to me.
@xmissjemx Right. I meant that it's good that she "pushed us over the edge" with the ending. I hate how the general populace thinks that art is supposed to make us feel happy. It's just supposed to make us feel. At the very least it should make us think.
Great series, but the ending was an annoying cliffhanger that pretty much explained nothing. All that build up just to leave us hanging like that was kind of a let down.
Seriously how can people not get it? there were soldiers who were picking up civilians to bring them to a safe area because the world was ending. One night the house across the road had their light on. So the dad went to check it out. He saw a guy. He said don't let them take you because the whole world ending thing is fake. So the dad tried to get his family to not go. So tied up his wife so she wouldn't go anywhere. the they woke up and everything was fine. then the world ended.
great vid. reminded me of the outer limits! i wish the voice of the guy would have said something clever as he was watching the big wave of water take over.
(in clever old voice) For centuries we have always herd about the end coming.... but what will we do... when is finally here!
Scary!!
CropTopsAndFlipflops 2 weeks ago
0:48 I spot a Shaun of the Dead poster! Lol, but uh back the video. Amazing! :D
Gorillaz2love 2 months ago
I don't get the ending... Can someone please explain what it was or what happened?
JadeMaree16 2 months ago
Beautifully written, amazing acting... WOW DENISE!!!! *applause*
InnocentLikeLaceyy 2 months ago
...well this was unsettling...
funnypumpkinhehe 2 months ago
even i would believe the niehbor.....they gave no/few details..just end of the world lol! we jump at the end of the story.
tmahome21 3 months ago
Nuke inbound..
TheHamsterOfRudeness 3 months ago
...and then come the zombies.lmao
stevenwalton8177 3 months ago 2
This sucked!!!
Joeboxer7394 3 months ago
Nooo. I hate that it ended this way. There should have been a genocide. This series could have been expanded in such an interesting way by discovering why and creating heroes. Great concept though. I really loved it.
JazzySnazzy09 3 months ago 6
@JazzySnazzy09 Who says there wasn't a genocide? At the end, the only way a select few can survive is if the rest die quickly.
CommentorX 3 months ago
Erm...
leopollld 3 months ago
That was awesome!!!! I love it
bubbles12345678902 3 months ago
Great story Denise! Loved it.
animefan057 3 months ago
that ending was BRILLIANT
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As explained in DeniseVlogs: The soldier only shot the neighbor because he had escaped after being in the shuttle. Being in a shuttle means there are people and if he was to escape, he would have to injure other civilians. To continue, the scene when the soldier shot a bullet into the air was a warning sign to Roger and his family to stop. However, after stopping, a siren came on to warn EVERYONE who knows what the siren meant to go back to safety. To conclude, the world might end as predicted.
airforceonezzz 3 months ago
damn these short films wer pretty gud i got into them... but is this the last one are there goin to be anymore or wat... But props to the people who made this very gud!!
stacg08 3 months ago
Things like this give me chills! When you dont want them to die, and you're like, NOOOOO GO GO WITH THEM!!! hahaha anyways, good work Denise! I loved it<3
bay0809 3 months ago
TO SCAWY!
MrMagicalHotdog 3 months ago
Really interesting little series! I want more!
amy5mc 3 months ago
When you said you was going to make a horror videos I thought it was a really bad idea. I was so wrong and I'm sorry.
Epsilon0703 4 months ago
WOW this was great!!! Moar please!!
farhmoha 4 months ago
A nice short story, Denise. I felt the only slightly weak acting link was Channing, but then her character was pretty 2-dimensional, so perhaps not all her fault. What would be very interesting would be to revisit this short story from the other perspectives: the Crazy Guy, the soldier, Adam and Nancy. I wonder what else we'd learn from their points of view.
samuelcaddick 4 months ago
You do excellent stuff......!!!!!!
MsDillyDalie 4 months ago
Man, short films like these, only taking place in basically one location are great. We need to support more work like this, this is what I would love to do, make short films with good character study and writing.
jedichris8 4 months ago
it could be that the world didnt end but the terrorists bombing the us and the soldiers had to evacuate them because they knew that it would happen.
MegaOwnagemonkey 4 months ago
I get the feeling Denise knows about FEMA camps. lol
Great stuff Denise. Inspires me on my film making endeavors.
jedichris8 4 months ago
@jedichris8 that's exactly what I thought! lol
too bad this might be more true than we realize...except the very end. it's all a trap. x.x
refinedclockwork 4 months ago
@refinedclockwork
lol i know.. scary..
jedichris8 4 months ago
Loved this one the most of all the scary videos. It wasn't like classic screaming scary, it was just interesting and cool.
bubbblycupcakes 4 months ago
in my opinion it was the ocean rising
cullensrockandroll 4 months ago in playlist More videos from DeniseVlogs
LOVED IT
TheJustkidding1234 4 months ago
OMG i wish there was more! It's soooo good :)
TheJustkidding1234 4 months ago
it was a nuke going off, thats what the black thing was at the end.
Jbrouwer15 4 months ago
@Jbrouwer15 it was a tsunami covering up the land
9999Somegirl 4 months ago
this could be a movie... that was intense.
Mmmeshy 4 months ago 3
i get it but i dont ??
LoverHalloween 4 months ago
What was the black thing at the end ????
LoverHalloween 4 months ago
@LoverHalloween the meteor. duh.
therealmaddie 4 months ago
@LoverHalloween It's whatever you think destroyed the world
CheeBergerCheeBerger 4 months ago
@CheeBergerCheeBerger so a giant cat with icecream sandwichs riding a unicirn deystroyed the world
jefflukey123 4 months ago
@jefflukey123 No don't be ridiculous -.- It was a giant giraffe not a cat, DUH
LaughOutLoudKristina 4 months ago
amazing !!
s0luv0p 4 months ago
loves it.
sydneybelle93 4 months ago
but then why did the soldiers shoot the neighbor?
juliejuly4you 4 months ago 24
@juliejuly4you because he was going to stay there anyways thus he would die either way
ariner19 4 months ago
@juliejuly4you cus he was a looney toon.
madmelidy31 3 months ago
@juliejuly4you The soldier only shot the neighbor because he had escaped after being in the shuttle. Being in a shuttle means there are people and if he was to escape, he would have to injure other civilians. To continue, the scene when the soldier shot a bullet into the air was a warning sign to Roger and his family to stop. However, after stopping, a siren came on to warn EVERYONE who knows what the siren meant to go back to safety. To conclude, the world might end as predicted.
Countchrisdo 3 months ago
@Countchrisdo thank you for explaining , it makes sense now.
juliejuly4you 3 months ago
@juliejuly4you Because he hurt people to escape and it's the end of the world, they weren't going to arrest him...they figured if he didn't want to go, he was dead anyway
TheAtheistDebate 3 months ago
@TheAtheistDebate thank you for explaining :3
juliejuly4you 3 months ago
@juliejuly4you cuz he killed people to escape from the shuttle
yankesfan1998 3 months ago
@juliejuly4you because he ran from them and probably didnt listen to them when they told him to come back. also he probably threatened to tell everyone so they did waht they had to do
TinyAngel1923 3 months ago
@juliejuly4you he had probably attacked them first, trying to get away
iamacupcakee 2 months ago
@juliejuly4you note they shot him in the hip, not very fatal. they probably did it to save his life.
MissWiaS 1 month ago
Is it just me or Roger reminds me of Kris Allen?
ShakilaHamdan 4 months ago
@ShakilaHamdan just u
MusicTunezNet 4 months ago
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ShakilaHamdan 4 months ago
WOW awsome video you are amazing i think i sorta got the video
gliterprincess102 4 months ago
Ending scared me! :(
ThePinkBlooded 4 months ago
Wait. So... Did the end come? Or, did the soldiers just leave them, or did they not see them? This was incredible but confusing.
JulianaIsDrunk 4 months ago
.....can we have an explanation?
Dina8485 4 months ago
was it a meteor?? why was it late?
BelindaK27 4 months ago
Well this episode was a real let down..
ICDWILL117 4 months ago
that was the best ending i've ever seen. AMAZING JOB, DENISE! :D
annah555 4 months ago
How could anyone not understand? The world was supposedly going to end by some meteor strike so the government uses shuttles to get everyone to safety. But the father, Roger, meets his neighbor who says it's a conspiracy to exterminate everyone, and when Roger sees his neighbor getting shot he believes he was right so he hides with his family as to not be taken away. They think they were right until the last seconds when the sky darkens, hence the end of the world was real.
Wotanraven 4 months ago 91
@Wotanraven Why you spoil.
MoonRifleBeam 4 months ago
@MoonRifleBeam This is the last chapter of the series.... watch the video before reading the comments. Learn how to use internet and Youtube.
Wotanraven 4 months ago
@Wotanraven Even if you spoil it at the end it is a spoiler you dick.
MoonRifleBeam 4 months ago
@Wotanraven
I think they just want to see Denise. LOL
TheGabyFe 4 months ago
Obviously they thought the world was ending, then didnt, then it did :) maybe??
Sparkles0149 4 months ago
wait whattt??? i got everything up until the end xD
shiningstar0721 4 months ago
what happened?!?!?
XOmisstay916XO 4 months ago
great job denise
redstripe29 4 months ago
what happend
norskesondre 4 months ago
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Wapow27 4 months ago
Denise-- you better change the name to DeniseRocks! Another good one.
AkScoochy 4 months ago
This was so freakin' amazing Denise!!! I loved it!
SalthawkMusician 4 months ago
I thought I completely understood this one...until the very end. why did everything go black? Did the world end late or something? Please explain Denise :)
ItsBrittanyyBeach 4 months ago 3
lurved this
ManziMovies 4 months ago
It was actually very well done and thought out. Everything and everyone was on point. Love the kid-- good actors. Good script. Good direction. Good concept.
f0r33ha 4 months ago
that was good!
But why did they stop chasing them when the alarm went off/what did that alarm mean?
f0r33ha 4 months ago
@f0r33ha It was probably because the soldiers would miss their last chance to get out if they kept pursuing the family.
emmygerard 4 months ago
DARN YOU CLIFF HANGER!!!!!!!!
Boywereeolf 4 months ago
i'm kinda confused could you explain denise
iluvsmpfilms5 4 months ago
I dont like this series this much... i feel bad for saying it but i just dont like it... i love the other stuff though :) happy halloween for tomorrow :)
MoominAlanna 4 months ago
Way a go Denise :) I enjoyed it AND understood it :P
enenepienkos 4 months ago
well i didnt understand shit
CarlossWorld 4 months ago
Well... I'm more confused than a cow on AstroTurf :/
elshaneio 4 months ago
I have nothing to say to this. Its neither good nor bad, I think that makes it worse than bad becuz i dont feel any like or dislike for this. Its not even a MEH type of video. I cant help it being honest, thats what this little white box is for right? Im going super douchebag right now, sorry, Denise please for the LOVE of all this is HOLY in this world please learn how to write a FREAKING STORY!!! GOD DAMMIT!!! GAAHHHHRRR!!!!!! i dont even know what i just said , that how mad i am. aargh!!
rockbutt123 4 months ago
Excellent work. You are very talented. Love it.
jtgreat88 4 months ago
This is stupid, If the world is ending how does going to a shelter help? And why would they shoot the guy. Please don't be another M Night Shyamalan.!
RayWillliamJohnnsonn 4 months ago
Denise that is so messed up to leave cliff hanger like that..
spence604 4 months ago
Hooray - 10000th viewer exactly!
Krepid 4 months ago
season 2 season 2 season 2 ..please... is it aliens...where are the shuttles taking people??? what are the shuttles??? SO many unanswered questions... <3
topkat91 4 months ago
you should make a part 4
lowrider9793 4 months ago
@DeniseVlogs The road a man takes to avoid his destiny is often the road that leads him to his demise..... is the moral of the story, right?
23hoyas 4 months ago
Ah Denisse, got to say that that ending makes it all...
migueloico 4 months ago
so there will be no commentry on these videos?
HIKAJO 4 months ago
I don't get it. What happened? It was the end of the world?
DENISE I LOVE YOUR SERIES!
anna1caroline2 4 months ago
Explain pls Denise :)
gilian89 4 months ago 16
Denise confirmed a season 2!! <3
anemozen 4 months ago
I hate to criticize Denise...but...
Ending was very predictable. However, not only was it predictable, it was unsatisfying. This plot has been done before. I've seen your past work - I know you're more creative than this! Just look at the continuing vlogs you have going about that teacher! Don't be afraid to try new things, and PLEASE avoid things this predictable and unsatisfying
SuperBobo888 4 months ago 2
The ending didn't explain to much, but I still loved it <3
oHalyssax3 4 months ago
So why does "rodger" fear the Batman symbol on his window at the end?
TheAGHairflick 4 months ago
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This was a true story I think
Showtimesback 4 months ago
um what happend at the ends what kind of world ending was that dont get me wrong i got the storie but idk about the black creeping over the window ...good job tho loved it
TheRockstarRaven 4 months ago
That ending was sooo scary, but LOVED it!! Good job Denise! :D x
smileleena 4 months ago
that mind fucked me. well done, especially for a youtube series
NatetheLB 4 months ago
That was shit.
oMisFiTx 4 months ago
EEEEEPPPIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCC
gamewizzardd 4 months ago
Wait I dont get it the soldiers were chasing them and then all of a sudden they stopped?? What happened?
XxAl3xiisxX 4 months ago 2
sorry but wath's happen with Dennis and the guy how run away and old that stuff from the beggining?? I just don't get it. Is this another history?
carlosmax50 4 months ago
@YourNever2Old Sorry the truth hurts so much.
queenoffuzz 4 months ago
fuck that shit,we need more.NOW please
dougnight44 4 months ago
I can't wait for the commentary on this because I didn't get a lot of it? So they were getting taken to camps because the world was ending? What's going to save them in the camps, surely that will be destroyed too? And the world did actually end in the end right? :S
totalH20 4 months ago
@totalH20 there three points watch both all of them then I think you'll understand :)
JdawgmcCallister 4 months ago
@JdawgmcCallister Three chapters? Yeah I know I've watched them all, I just don't get this one really
totalH20 4 months ago
@totalH20 oh okay and know i ready my comment it dindt make much since three "points" aw ho well you got what i ment anyway It just says how the end of the world happends when they wake up it just started later then planned
JdawgmcCallister 4 months ago
It'd be great if there's a part 4, since nobody's ever done a film about 'after' the world ended.
Fenrirwolfen 4 months ago
Eh, I would of rather had zombies come to the window.
Nanavette2005 4 months ago
this was a dumb ending.
RayWillliamJohnnsonn 4 months ago
Briljantly done Denise,
very high quality of imaging. Shot in a very professional way.
Superb use of light. Story line is very well thought of. (Leaves room for debate. :-) Good.)
Your next in line for the 90 minutes film making as far as anybody cares what I think. :-)
Keep on doing the good work please.
RensDuijsens 4 months ago in playlist Meer video's van DeniseVlogs
at 1:55 Am i the only one that got scared of the kids mask?
khai2die4 4 months ago
Can't wait for the next seaaon
lilnette1 4 months ago
Nooooo, I don't want it to enddd! D;
KortneyRoseann 4 months ago
well the shadow thingy is the way denise showed that the world was ending ...
VoodooSmash 4 months ago
I'll admit the ending was a little underwhelming compared to the rest of the DV Presents episodes. I dunno, it just didn't scream "season finale" to me.
dorkagejunkee 4 months ago
I'm Armageddon out of here - or put it another way, I'm unsubscribing
Amariyah 4 months ago
I LIKED IT
kmb1023x 4 months ago
Omg I have got to see what happens!!!!!!
laurennicole706 4 months ago
What???? Im confuzzled O.o
Tiggz1551 4 months ago
explain the ending please!
Vikkiitorious 4 months ago in playlist More videos from DeniseVlogs
ending wasnt good enough
KingShreeKrishna 4 months ago
WTF!
JadeWatchesYou16 4 months ago
yes, this was horrible...stop encouraging her just because you want to F*** her...way to predictable, and a bland/boring ending.
colossus3200 4 months ago
It was good! but what happend the world ended? aliens? Zombies? sun eclipse? what exactly happend? lol
odgm12345 4 months ago
Wtf?
lmfaolol59 4 months ago
really good :) but there were still a couple of questions that are unanswered...
cheeseristical 4 months ago
this hasnt even happened yet :) the first episode said shuttle date 31st october 1030 pm... LOVE IT
topkat91 4 months ago in playlist More videos from DeniseVlogs
So how exactly did the world end?
That ending was a big f-you to my emotions. I was smiling, and then BLAM. No more smiles.
xmissjemx 4 months ago 30
@xmissjemx Good.
creepychris11 4 months ago
@creepychris11 I loved it.
xmissjemx 4 months ago
@xmissjemx Right. I meant that it's good that she "pushed us over the edge" with the ending. I hate how the general populace thinks that art is supposed to make us feel happy. It's just supposed to make us feel. At the very least it should make us think.
creepychris11 4 months ago
@creepychris11 That's very true. I love Denise's stories. They're always so well done.
xmissjemx 4 months ago
Did anyone else see the Shaun of the Dead poster?
Or was I seeing things?
xmissjemx 4 months ago
god i cant wait till the next one to come out now i swear every time i watch one of these i just am anticipating the next series :D
sportychicken1 4 months ago
@sportychicken1 There won't be anymore, lol the series is over. Unless you're talking about another Denisevlog, then yes, I'm excited too!
TheSmartone08 4 months ago
should've been longer....which just means it was so good i want more
DrZaius007 4 months ago
Awesome Denise! You're in the zone!
MrMoVids 4 months ago
Great series, but the ending was an annoying cliffhanger that pretty much explained nothing. All that build up just to leave us hanging like that was kind of a let down.
susieq242 4 months ago
very well done!
jennafranchi 4 months ago
I got a weird cold feeling when the shadow edged up the window, very effective, good work.
SyndicateFilmStudios 4 months ago
Great vid, but slow, Americans don't have an attention span.
DJLunasf 4 months ago
im guessing that was the world ending?
TheYonkous 4 months ago
Seriously how can people not get it? there were soldiers who were picking up civilians to bring them to a safe area because the world was ending. One night the house across the road had their light on. So the dad went to check it out. He saw a guy. He said don't let them take you because the whole world ending thing is fake. So the dad tried to get his family to not go. So tied up his wife so she wouldn't go anywhere. the they woke up and everything was fine. then the world ended.
Beqawzz 4 months ago 54
@Beqawzz oohh.... thanks :)... why did they shoot the crazy dude though?
yohomey1234 4 months ago 3
@yohomey1234 cos he refused to go.
Beqawzz 4 months ago
@Beqawzz .. so did they, but they didn't get shot, he just fired a warning shot and walked off..
yohomey1234 4 months ago
@yohomey1234 yeah but the alarm went off, so they were like "should we go?" so they just left the family
Beqawzz 4 months ago
@Beqawzz That still wouldnt make sense. Just leave him to die then, the way they did with the family.
susieq242 4 months ago
@Beqawzz but how??? what was the shadow thingy?
lilgurl4eva1 4 months ago
@Beqawzz We know that.. were asking what was the shadow cloud thing.
TheSmartone08 4 months ago
@Beqawzz ......eh...... Did it?
I just noticed a shadow. Could have been a very dark cloud, to an alien spaceship, to an eclipse, to ..... anything.
What is you idea of what happened please?
And if it was indeed the end of the world......
Than what would be the use of going to a shelter?
The shelter is in this world...... No more world.... No more shelter.
Why should people that do not want to go into shelter have to be shot?
I'm curious to see you point of view please.
Friendly greetings
Rens
RensDuijsens 4 months ago
@Beqawzz
If the world is ending everyone would die, so what's it matter?
SoIStuckItInMyPants 4 months ago
@Beqawzz there is a season 2 comming so you are so fucking wrong the world is not ending!
anemozen 4 months ago
@anemozen Fuck up faggot, i wrote my comment before denise confirmed season 2.
Beqawzz 4 months ago 5
@Beqawzz well how the fuck should i know that..? fuckyou
anemozen 4 months ago
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@anemozen Don't threaten me with a good time.
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Beqawzz 4 months ago
great vid. reminded me of the outer limits! i wish the voice of the guy would have said something clever as he was watching the big wave of water take over.
(in clever old voice) For centuries we have always herd about the end coming.... but what will we do... when is finally here!
valdamirie 4 months ago
For those of you questioning the end?? Read this: ALIENS.
Thumb it.
casperlok2dbrain 4 months ago
So creepy!!
o0BeadFreak0o 4 months ago
it would have been good if it didnt go dark at the end and they were in "Heaven" hence the light
twilightlink261 4 months ago