Cleaning your rifle after firing Corrosive Surplus Military Ammunition

[zzbunch]

I never would have thought to use windex thanks for postin man

[Captbrass10]

yea a bore snake works best

[HolyDeltaWings]

It is very important to clean after shooting corrosive ammo. My brother shot up my mosin with my corrosive ammo and never cleaned it and I was not able to get to it for a few weeks. the insides were all rusted up. ohhhhhhh was I mad. Ended having to use some blue and rust remover to clean it. ALWAYS CLEAN AFTER SHOOTING CORROSIVES!

[Nitricthunder]

The russians just used gasoline to clean their mosins.

[GerrettJihad]

I noticed your Hand grenade, I have the same kind.

[heineken604604]

Hey I actually just bought the CZ 858 today with a 1400 round box of the Russian 7.62x39mm corrosive military surplus ammo, I was told by the owner of the gun store to just run hot water down the barrel once or twice and then clean the gun normally, would that be fine to do?

[vizzo93]

Do you have to break down the bolt each time you shoot. Or just worry about the bore.

[dangermandave67]

Great video. I wouldn't leave Sweets 7.62 in the barrel for half an hour. It's likely to etch the bore.

When do you stop your cleaning? I always finish up with a huge pile of patches, wondering whether I'm being too anally retentive.

[JESSERL]

The important thing is to use a water based solvent... like water. Salts are polar compounds which can't be dissolved by non-polar solvents like those that are petroleum based.

Ammonia doesn't do anything for the corrosive salts, but it will probably help with copper fouling.

I just flush out the bore and rinse the bolt with a kettle of boiling water, then clean as normal.

[Alexn1067]

one time I let my mosin sit for two weeks without cleaning (non-corrosive) and the bore looked awful. At first I thought it was rust, but turns out it was just copper fouling, so I don't think any damage was done to the bore or its accuracy. But it made cleaning more difficult. Long story short, clean your rifles asap, you don't want the foreign matter inside the bores reacting with the air. but at the same time, you don't have to clean it right then and there at the range.

[Solingen1000]

mercury fulminate also produces elemental mercury...VERY TOXIC!!!

[NickPech]

What about the bolt? I guess just use a regular solvent, or clean it with windex too?

[EviLNox8]

How quickly do you need to clean out your gun after firing it with corrosive ammo? Can I drive the 45 minutes to get back home, then the 15 or so minutes of things I may need to do before getting to the gun? So is an hour too long to wait on a regular basis or should I clean it RIGHT at the range if they allow me to do so?

[ProGunTexan]

It's also important to clean your "gun" after being with a corrosive vagina.

[Iraqveteran8888]

@ProGunTexan Windex also works for that....lol

[mjcass3111]

@ProGunTexan Refer to 4:41 incase you were still curious... "its still crusty!" my favorite part of the video ha ha ha

[desirefirst]

i shoot corrosive then finish with 5 rounds of the good stuff to blow out the corrosive residue LOL

[catholicforever]

I cleaned my M48 mauser after I shot some ammo in it, like I normally do. A few weeks later though, I was horrified when I inspected it and saw a bunch of nasty crusty rust in the barrel. It took me an hour to clean it out, it still seems to work good though.

[bmp130]

Did anyone notice the grenade sitting on the table to the right of the windex looking bottle? lol

[Iraqveteran8888]

@bmp130 Thats for those really hard to reach places.

[bmp130]

What would be the difference in price between the corrosive military surplus 7.62x54r rounds and new rounds? Will hopefully be getting a mosin such as yours in the future. Wondering if its worth trying to avoid surplus ammo. Great video by the way!

[67dodgepolara]

@bmp130 880 rounds for $80 I think I'll buy more !! Surplus just needs different cleaning procedures, it's great for cheap shootin' !

[AvalancheDiode]

So that's why we were taught to use soup water in Taiwan Army. Thanks for very useful info.

[langet46]

A great demo video, straight forward and well described, very well done! One question though, do you use Windex on the bolt face, or any other components that could be exposed to primer gas?

[joedude999]

Will a thorough cleaning with Hoppe's #9 not do the trick?

[john21992]

on my ak74 i went crazy the one day with 7n6 shot about 700 through it (its cheap) i am not kidding when i say i let the gun cool down and when i came back there was rust spots on the muzzle brake lol

[poik12]

How long is it 'safe' to leave it if the firearm's barrel is vertical? (the Weapon BTW is a 1914 model enfield)

[MakDalme]

Love these informational ones.

[DuGutUntermensch]

I noticed last week that my mosin was rusty, I cleaned it with hoppes last time I shot it. I took it and scrubbed the hell out of it to clean it, could the rust came from the hoppes not being the right choice for cleaning the gun or maybe moisture???

[salmonking007]

soapy hot water works wonders. Follow with a spray of oil and BAM, clean rifle.

[LeverActionStudios]

One thing Eric that I want to bring forward. Great vid as always, bit I thought it was lacking. You said that it was very crusty which I'm sure it was, but it would have been nice if you took some before and after footage, and I know everything takes time, but showed how many times it actually took you to clean out the bore. Thanks again!

[honda8354]

Great CID! I own 2 Mosin M 44 , all corrosive ammo does, is let me spend more time with my firearms!But this a must. Q:how to eliminate static electricity with my powder measure, I am experiencing powder clinging to the entire surface in my measure. Thnx.

[fatefinger]

I use a kettle of hot water and a turkey baster. Blast maybe 6 times down the barrel. Then run maybe 3 water patches through the bore. Never had an issue.

Of course regular hoppes 9 is designed to neutralize the salts as well. Ammonia you cannot leave sitting as it can damage the bore.

[685anddime]

Now with a gas operated rifle such as an SKS, a complete teardown of the gas system and reciever is also necessary, no?

[Iraqveteran8888]

@685anddime Oh yes....Anything those gas came into contact with needs to be cleaned thoroughly.

[685anddime]

@Iraqveteran8888 Which is why I'll stick with Wolf and other non corrosive ammo. =)

[saltyshellback]

COOL! I just learned a new word-hygroscopic. I'm going to incorporate it into my daily vocabulary. Thanks for the lesson :-)

[vonbassenheim]

Its videos like this that are the reason i subscribe to your channel. I really appreciate your videos that are more about simple things anyone can do like this or how to get the caked on cosmo out of the bore.

keep the good stuff coming

[OneMansSanctuary]

As always, great information!

[Nicho2177]

Is the breakin process on an AR 15 the same as any other rifle? I do not have much experience with chrome lined long guns

[oldmoney74]

Dollar General brand window cleaner or ammonia is great. Try this, clean it and wait a week and run a patch through it. You can see what you get. I shoot surplus ammo in my mosin and I have tried t all. Cabela's black powder "solvent" is good but is no match for straight up ammonia cleaner. I put the " marks in there because it's really just soap and water.

[Fordfanforlife777]

I love the hand grenade just waiting for a zombie on your work bench.

[jfranco71]

Thanks for sharing the knowledge my Jonesboro buddy. This pretty much explains why 7.62 ammo I bought was dirt cheap and rusted shut my SKS.

[ewfisher89]

You want to talk about a nasty situation. I was home from college for the weekend and before going back to school I shot my Mosin, '36 Tula, and I put it up after my dad told me he would clean it for me that evening. He left it for THREE MONTHS. Talk about a nasty bore, I almost had to use a rubber malet to push my .270 brush down the barrel to clean it. A bunch of patches soaked in Hoppe's no.7 later, and it looks a whole lot better.

[Sanjuro82]

The best way I've found is to flush the weapon out with emulsified ballistol and water (1:8 ratio) from a spray bottle immediately after you fire your last corrosive round. While the weapon is still hot/warm. The ballistol help breakdown and neutralize the salts and the water flushes them out. The heat from the weapon aids in the process. After the flushing, I just quickly blow out the majority with compressed air.  Once I get home a more thorough cleaning is done if need be.

[xmike8259x]

i use windex for the corrosive ammo to, but i want to know if it really does work because i still hear people saying that it dosent.....and what exactly would it do to the barrel if you dont clean corrosive ammo obviously it would damage but would it really eat away at the barrel and turn it into shit? i dont shoot corrosive ammo alot just a few rounds ik i sound like a retard but ehhhh just things ive wondered about

[ds10363]

Should you do anything about cleaning the salts on the bolt assy. and firing pin?

[paltryengineer]

might be your camera but wow that stock looks black, looks like an old Lithgow no 1 mk3, i heard that when they were surplus they would just dunk them in a barrel of oil to "rust proof" them . even now if you leave some of them in the sun the shit just drips out of the stock. Excellent video

[spunkmeyer421]

i enjoy your videos

[werdwerdus]

after i shoot i just spray 20-30 squirts of windex down the bore with the rifle held vertically and let all the excess run out the muzzle end, then clean it when i get home. but i wait a bit since if the barrel is still too hot it can cause the windex to steam up and shoot out the barrel towards you!

[EverythingisFire]

Now if I'm shooting the desert or at a particular outdoor range(one is one hour away and the second is an hour and a half+ away), what should I do after shooting? Will my rifle be okay on the ride home without cleaning it?

[Iraqveteran8888]

@EverythingisFire Good question...When I know I am going to have a drive ahead of me, I go ahead and coat the bore in windex until I get some. Works great. Don't be afraid to leave the bore wet with windex, but don't forget to swab clean and oil when you get home

[EverythingisFire]

@Iraqveteran8888

Ah, thank you! I was thinking heating some water and putting it in a plastic bottle but wasn't sure if it had to be "hot" when poured in or if "warm" was okay. It'd be "warm" after 1-1/2 to 2 hours if not more of shooting by the time I'd be done with the AK. Winter is coming up too so it could cool off faster than that.

[EverythingisFire]

Thanks! I'm planning on buying an Interarms IAC AK-74 soon and I will be buying the surplus ammo out there that is corrosive.

[VirgilHawkins1]

The soldiers back in the day would pee in it. It's a warm, water based solvent, that contains ammonia.

[poik12]

@VirgilHawkins1 I'll stick with the glass cleaner.

[Alexn1067]

@VirgilHawkins1 dude if that is the case, I don't even want to know where my mosin nagant has been. Russians can be real questionable bastards lol

[razorstreetsk8er]

Ive always cleaned my guns with wd-40 when i get home from shooting, even my sks that i shoot surplus wolf/tul ammo russian surplus, it works just fine never had a problem

[mrfish1991]

Ive always used No. 9. I run several wet patches though it, as well as a bore snake a few times. Then I will run dry patches, then one or two more wet patches followed by dry patches...Finally I run one with remoil on it.

My mosin has never had a spot of rust in the bore or on the bolt (at least by my doing) and all I shoot is comblock ammo

[greedkiller]

In some "less developed areas" in the world, people use urine to clean out the salts left by corrosive ammo. Im not advocating peeing down your bore, just saying :)

[evanhg]

Will Hoppe's No. 9 solvent work?

[Pr0ximaCentauri]

@evanhg 7.62x54r.net recomends No. 9 for Mosins, that what I have used. I might try the hot water trick as well.

[AmericaStandsStrong1]

@evanhg I use windex and hoppes (not combined obviously) and I have had no problems. Hoppes is one of the best out there for corrosive because of the small amount of ammonia in it

[evanhg]

Will Hoppes No. 9 solvent work?

[47Akguy]

I just use windex

[GruntyAssassin2]

I've heard that pissing in the bore of a rifle after you shoot corrosive ammo will help neutralize the salts because of the ammonia in urine.

Can anyone confirm or deny? I don't do this and never will, I'm just curious if it would work.

[FletchBZMMT]

Good vid brother.

[DudeNumberOnePlus]

should the bolt striker etc. be cleaned too? (in mosin)

[TheKodiak72]

yay, Sweets 7.62, Aussie made !! :)

[Chris090883]

I got some old Remington Kleenbore 7.62x54R never fired, and I just got the stuff kept in it's box.

[jlovasz3]

great vid with awesome information thanks!!

[SoulSurvivorX2]

Great information...thanks for sharing ;) c

[Dalwhinnie15]

I use the windex too, except I just spray it on the patches which I then wrap around a bore brush. Whatever works.

[backwoods223]

Thanks for the video. What are your thoughts on shooting corrosive ammo in a semi auto, or something that has a gas system? For example, an AR. Wouldn't you have to basically take it completely apart and clean the barrel, front site post, gas tube, inside of the upper and lower receiver, and the bolt? I imagine any guns more sophisticated than a bolt action probably wouldn't be worth the savings for using corrosive?

[AK47andGlocklover]

lol i love the m2 frag stage prop.

[ljchrzan]

What did soldiers do in the field "back in the day" when they were issued corrosive ammo?

[Montyfiable]

@ljchrzan piss in the barrel, seriously

[Iraqveteran8888]

@ljchrzan They were issued cleaning rods and the like. Most of them probably just pulled a boot lace tied in knots through the gun...lol

[ljchrzan]

@Iraqveteran8888 I knew that but I meant about neutralizing the salts. What was in their cleaning kits back then?

[TheKodiak72]

@Iraqveteran8888 poured boiling hot water down the barrel. well the brits did anyway

[ThePatriotsChoice]

@Iraqveteran8888 Hot water....Run it through the barrel several times.

[efrol1]

@ljchrzan they were killed before their weapons got rusted

[148scalemodeling]

@ljchrzan Ran a shoe lace or cleaning rod down it. Ae long as it worked i dont think they cared.

[buryourdead21]

@ljchrzan I have heard claims that Diesel or K-1 was used as a cleaning agent, with shoe laces.

[hitssquad]

4:40 "This is about neutralizing those hydroscopic"

Hygroscopic -- "g" instead of "d": en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Hygroscopy

[Iraqveteran8888]

@hitssquad I'm not the grammer gestapo...you guys know that...lol

[klesmer]

@Iraqveteran8888 Not to worry Bro, I still pronounce it hydroscopic and I know better.

[Iraqveteran8888]

@hitssquad I guarantee if you pick 10 random people off the street in Georgia, they don't even know what they words mean...lol

[DaytonaRoadster]

@Iraqveteran8888 hey! you know damn well i live here, and i know what that means...so maybe out of 9 people lol

[Humberto4790]

@Iraqveteran8888 Not windex, windex has amonea which is corrosive. So it'll damage your rifle.

[Iraqveteran8888]

@Humberto4790 Windex is great for neutralizing the salts. I've been doing it for over 10 years now and haven't had a single issue with after-rusting.

[ristin59]

Great info!

[glockman1727ak47]

Thank you for the great upload. Very helpful tips.

[ronpaul2008rocks]

I bought a box of the old GI gun cleaning solvent. Lifetime supply.

[mossbergcrazy]

my cousin gave me his mosin 91/30 and its badly pitted because he didnt clean it after he shot corrosive ammo. is it safe to shoot??

[Solingen1000]

Wooo first comment!!! do i win??? :D

[Elementlmage]

I LOVE Windex; it works beautifully. I just buy a refill jug and throw it in my car whenever I got to the range.

I do use a different method. I take a patch and soak it in Windex, run it through the bore, then run a dry patch. Another run of Windex and dry patch, and then I clean the gun like I normally would with Hopps as Windex does fuck all for copper and steel deposits.

I like your method though, I may have to try a variation on it. I'm thinking Windex patch, brush, dry patch repeat?