Also take note there is no such thing as a white supremacist. A supremacist is someone who thinks he is better than someone else. Whites are better than everyone else and immigration numbers are all the proof needed.
Where the conferences are concerned what you’re not being told is the hotels canceled the reservations because of death threats against the management and employees of this business. The came from the people of tolerance who claim that all should be equal except when it concerns white people. Also since they claim white supremacists are the attendees how do you explain the large number of Jews that attend.
@caucasiannation One that could be explained by the fact that Jews can be racist too. As for the "death threats", what's your source, the hotel? How about a police report? Anyone arrested? No? Then it didn't happen.
@StSimonMartyr That's because they want their own group to be pure. But of course they oppose anyone who advocates white racial purity. They seem to want all other groups to mix, leaving Jews pure and in control.
@mxzysptlik If you don't think Jews prefer their offspring marry Jews (as I said) and for the sake of relative racial purity, you're an imbecile. The fact that there is no water that is 100% pure is not a valid argument for not caring whether a water supply has been adulterated.
I have no negro blood, but if I did, my arguments would be the same. Logic is not exclusive to those who are 100% pure of race. Some negroes are capable of rational thought. You, obviously, are not.
I love how the first thing that black woman says is "I'm a proud black woman and I'M STRONG" - doesn't sound too confident when you have to come up and tell us all that you're strong.
His ending comment was a great summary of white nationalism in general. It looked like some of the audience was receptive to it and even Donahue had a look of concern. They may not have responded to it but I bet it planted a seed.
White Christians are not the elite. The elite are Jewish...The Federal Reserve, Wall St, The World Bank, The IMF, the media, etc., all run by Jews. Our entire foreign policy can be summed up as, "Is it good for Israel?" You are either ignorant of the truth, in denial, or you're a liar. I don't really care which one you choose.
@MrFrozenyoga So...white Christians have no money or power. AND they were supposed to be the ones that built this country? Wow, that's right up there with the whole genocide "fact" you haven't backed up yet.
Let me guess, you are going to tell me that there is no convincing me, throw out an insult and end the conversation, right? Because somewhere around this point conservatives pull that chicken-shit move with me.
Demographic projections are NOT spin, they are fact. It is a well established FACT at this point that the elites have engineered a genocide against white Christian Europeans. In fact, MANY years ago Bill Clinton even gloated during a very stupid speech that whites would be a minority by mid century. There is nothing subjective about these facts, the only subjectivity here is your bullshit rhetoric.
@MrFrozenyoga And you sound like someone who knows that he can't back up his BS so instead of trying you repeat it and take a personal swipe for good measure. So, let's embarrass you further, shall we? If it is a "well established FACT at this point that the elites have engineered a genocide against white Christian Europeans" - which is curious since white Christian Europeans are seen AS the elite - why don't you point where this so-called genocide was established, hmmmmm?
Demographic projections don't lie. Immigration DOES amount to white genocide, a very calculated and engineered white genocide. Prior to 1965, 90% of our immigrants were white European Christians, educated and skilled. Post 1965, our immigrants are 90% non-white, uneducated, unskilled.
@MrFrozenyoga But how you spin those demographic projections as some sort of fact that there is genocide happening IS a lie. Don't mistake your subjectiveness for gospel, especially since you cheapen true genocide for even cheaper political stunts.
How can white people survive when we have a negative growth rate already and non whites are using mostly our taxes to feed kids they can't even afford?
If it weren't for white people's taxes most 'Hispanics' in this country wouldn't not even be born, we actually own them in a way.
also, look up the word 'genocide' and its origins, you clearly only know what the media decides to tell you.
I agree that they kept throwing below the belt punches at Jared, but he remains unruffled and logical. The main point of Jared's objection to immigration isn't that whites are superior; the main point is that the huge flows of third worlders amounts to white genocide. Again I have to note that I don't understand why he's labeled a "hatemonger" when he is simply stating the obvious elephant in the room facts.
@MrFrozenyoga Because his main point is that the huge flows of third worlders amounts to white genocide - which is crap. Whites aren't going anywhere. It's pure propaganda for the paranoid dellusional and he knows it.
@NoPawn White people are already a minority in the world. If whites become a minority in their own countries, they will have nowhere left to go. What do you think will happen then? Why do you hate white people, why do you want white people to slowly disappear?
@howiloggedin White people are not going anywhere, but I can't say the same for the paranoid fucks who can't accept the face that Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Jews, Muslims, etc. aren't going anywhere either.
@NoPawn actually they are all things indicate that there will one day there will be one race and that the white race will be the first to go......i personally dont care if i am dumber then Asians i dont give a shit and some of these people just seem scared of black people lol i like mixed people i am my self and i think mixed race women are generally the hottest
Most people crying racism aren’t experiencing it. racism involves race. Muslims for example aren’t a race but a realign composed of mixed ethnic follower. Jews are a realign composed of mixed ethnic groups. Latin’s mix group united by language. Gays not race but people united by there sexuality
@Aletheophile And make no mistake, antiracists are NOT saying "We have haven't been convinced by any arguments for race realism or, so we're reserving judgement" they are saying "We *know* that the egalitarian hypothesis* is true, and if you don't agree you're not just mistaken but downright evil".
*because that's what it is, a synthetic hypothesis, not an analytic truth.
What Jared doesn't seem to realize is that racism is bad because racism is bad. Diversity is a strength because diversity is a strength. Humans are all humans. There isn't enough genetic variation for the races to differ, except for in the ways they do differ. Some racial differences are environmental ergo all racial differences are environmental. Empirical hypotheses can be refuted a priori if they are RACIST. He's a RACIST. This is about as good as antiracist "arguments" get
@Aletheophile No, the biggest advantage of an anti-racist argument is against bigotry, delusions of superiority, and superficial beliefs that are no different than religious fanaticism and that are not practical, unproven for a truth, and pretty retarded. There's a lot of that in racism and racism is only one big example of those.
@Aletheophile The studies aren't racist...I'm not against asking questions but the they're not questions done for the sake of "scientific understanding" they're questions asked for the sake of racism. If you can't acknowledge that you're an idiot...or maybe you ARE racist. Something most don't like to admit. Before "genetics" it was something else, there will always be a justification in your mind to treat someone badly. And yes I'm black.
@Aletheophile And the biggest problem PRO-racists have is believing that they are not dealing with the people they will adversely affect if they were to get their way. It is interesting. Taylor these days is fond of saying "We just want to be left alone", but I have yet to see any of him and his fellow pro-racists leave anyone else alone. Case in point: By his logic everyone should leave Muslims alone.
@NoPawn Most people leave most other people alone most of the time, leaving each other alone is the default relation ship between 2 people. OK what exactly would happen if "racists" got their way, and who would suffer for it? "everyone should leave Muslims alone" yes, they should.
@Aletheophile Ummmm....exactly what happened when they HAD their way! It's not like we would be trying something new here! We kind of suffered their BS before.
@NoPawn Lots of things happened in the past, some pretty bad, some not so bad. you've got to be more specific than that. Tell us exactly what you are afraid of, show us when people like Taylor actually called for that, or how in follows from things they did say, and explain whose rights would be violated if it did happen.
@Aletheophile Better yet, why don't I use you and that sorry attempt at trying to say you don't believe in putting civilization in the hands you have decided for yourself would not be able to maintain it? How are you going to keep us from taking control?
The packed faced left realy dislike this guy, He says, what many would considered 'uncomfortable' views but they're as valid for airing as any other. White flight, changing demographics & the possiblity of a 'Brazil style' society where a dwindling white minority live in gated communities chauffeured around in armored cars everywhere, surrounded largely by a predominantly pore disenfranchise mulato communiy , living in crime ridden favelas. It's not exactly an ideal model for the USA or Europe
@Regalseven I agree. If you are so full of yourselves that you have to live in a gated community chauffeufered around in armored cars everywhere, you should really just leave.
do they want to stop seeing people along racial lines, and just view a human as a human? if so, then why are they hell-bent on increasing the amount of colored people in everything if they are blind to color?
So they attempt to shame him with below the belt jibes, condescending sarcasm and pathetic sentimental multukult sloganeering, but the moment they let him speak he slams them down with brute intellectual force, and they still pretend they have won the argument, and go right along with more personal shaming. This really shows how intellectually bankrupt anti-racism is as a whole. Check your brain at the door and let your amygdala run on overdrive because that's all its really needed here.
Does anyone ever wonder why racism didn't seem to exist until about 500 years ago?I've read about ancient cultures who thought they had superior civilization,but nothing about superior races.
A white person who says blacks are inferior is a white person who has never studied a musical score written by Duke Ellington, a composition written by Wayne Shorter, or contemplated the artistry of Robert Johnson's blues.
I've met (and work with) blacks who have Phds; who have law degrees; who are MDs. This guy Taylor is simply a buffoon. Donahue did him a favor by giving him such a large audience.
@bapyou I think most white supremacists would respond that they never said that all white people are superior in all respects to every black person. So if you can find someone making that argument, then congratulations. You've refuted them. But while we're on the subject of blacks and brains: How many black Nobel Prize-winning scientists have there been? How many black scientists have even come close? How many black math PhD's are there? There's a definite deficit in this area.
@seancrapola And when there is economic parity between blacks & others, perhaps the 'deficit' would be erased.
"Political Freedom without economic equality is a pretense, a fraud, a lie. " -- Bakunin
Taylor is simply a pig with a veneer of intelligence. Individual whites & blacks are intelligent & not-so-intellignet. Intelligence is not determined by race. Those who have attempted to claim it is (& they are legion) have been refuted repeatedly.
How sickening that people actually harassed this law-abiding group. If anything, it helps their case that their viewpoints are the targets of victimization.
Multiculturalism is a secular religion mandated by the state. Speak out against it and you will lose your job, your right to human dignity and you will be branded just as the Jews were branded with the yellow star.
People will want you DEAD and the state will not lift a finger of concern for your fate, you will be on par with a domestic terrorist.
@46coolhandluke No twisting. We want you gone and you are going away. You believe in freedoms, do as you say and mean it for everyone. Taylor doesn't do that.
@NoPawn I bet u have no real comeback for the ending statement he said now do you? Let me refresh you! He said you all say racism will end when we are all the same and a mixed society right? That is admitting to the fact a society of different races don't work, and also is in fact saying we should disappear as a people. If we get bred out we are gone and if you agree with that your either a self hating White or a genocidal non-White! Please try to reply!
@StatelessEuphoria Actually in the end, Taylor's freedom of speech remained intact, as well as ours and the freedom of association of the hotels he tried to book when they rejected him after they realized what they were bringing among their other patrons.
@StatelessEuphoria When a private business, which is not affiliated with the government denies a person entry or denies to him a speaking engagement, it has NOTHING to at all to do with free speech.
Only in America would someone be so brash as to complain that a man's right to free speech has been violated when he is allowed to walk freely about and even appear on major television networks, spewing his foolish beliefs and advocating racial class warfare and separatism.
@StatelessEuphoria No. I'm not "cool" with someone getting death threats but I don't think they violate a person's free speech. Call the damn police if you get a death threat. Case closed.
ONLY the government can violate a person's free speech. Private individuals cannot infringe upon anyone's Constitutional rights. A racist such as yourself should understand that. It was one of the main arguments people like you used to prevent government from outlawing private acts of discrimination.
@StatelessEuphoria I like your username but I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm just going to call you nigger and walk away. Cool username though.
Is that meant to be ironic at the end that whites are being discriminated against for discussing what is in the interests of whites? Why aren't there similiar protests against black charter schools and black rascist organizations?
@catalystleader No irony. It's what you get when you try to bring back segregation. Perhaps you should pursue other interests if your current ones means it will come at the expense of the rights of others.
"It's what you get when you try to bring back segregation. Perhaps you should pursue other interests if your current ones means it will come at the expense of the rights of others."
Oh yeah, why don't you lobby against the systemic segregation in Palestine and make sure the judeofascists there don't pursue any interests at the expense of others. Deal Shlomof?
You can't help but smirk at the arrogance of certain Liberals when it comes to topics such as Immigration, Race, Religion and DIEversity. All they do is say its wonderful and use insults to silence those who give them the cold hard facts.
Multi-culturalism has never worked, nor will it ever work.
Irregardless of ones feelings for Mr. Taylor and his views, this video series is a great example of why it is so difficult to have a fair debate. Donahue comes off as condescending and arrogant, unable to provide any level of substance to his comments. Jared Taylor, on the other hand, attempted to explain his positions and was often interrupted with a nonsensical question about a statement he had not even finished making. Taylor's biggest mistake however was when he insulted Donahue's sanity.
@Farrell81 {Taylor's biggest mistake however was when he insulted Donahue's sanity.}
Mistake perhaps, but not inaccurate, did you see Donahue squirming in glee when he was ranting about "...and theres nothing you can do that will stop it". That is a sick mind filled with utter contempt for whites who do not toe the liberal line. He wants them dead.
White people will either awaken to the demographic crises or they will simply be phased out of existence. And it will happen within decades, not centuries.
@RoyalistNationalist Actually, it's people like Taylor, with the help of white people, that will be phased out of existence, and we're looking at years.
I applaude Phil Donahue and that black woman for stepping up against a racist white guy who doesn't understand the beauty of diversity. I pity the supporters of this silly lunatic because we are called by God to love one another no matter what race we are. He wants an only white society with a racist ideology. The nazis had the exact same thing and look what happened to them. Look at it this way without diversity we would not have italian food, jazz, christmas, fiestas, etc.
I thought it was interesting how the black woman near the middle of the clip said Jared Taylor should apologize to the "ethnically diverse" people in the audience. She clearly means non-white. So when liberal advocates like her say diversity is intrinsically good, they are saying there is something intrinsically good in creating non-white societies and non-white societies that doesn't exist in White societies. This really confirms their anti-white bias.
@nogoodusernames100 You know, I have to make a point about something. Were someone to suggest Taylor means something he doesn't actually say, that would be called out by his supporters as putting words in his mouth and creating a scenario that doesn't exist. And yet, here you are posting what you say this woman "clearly means". Your arguments are shot down a lot of times because of the dishonest approaches to them. She didn't say she was anti-white, and you can't say it for her. Sorry.
Ok, than you tell me what she means by saying Mr.Taylor ought to apologize to the "ethnically diverse people in the audience"? Who are the ethnically diverse people in the audience, and who are the ethnically non-diverse he shouldn't apologize to? The only logical conclusion is she was talking about race. If she was talking about dividing people by political sensibilities, she could have said, "you should apologize to the multiculturalists, liberals, leftists etc" in the audience.
@nogoodusernames100 Wow, you just completely missed what I wrote, didn't you? I can't tell you what she means! Neither can you! Neither of us are her. Having said that, I do know that the people in the audience included quite a few white people in the audience. So they would have to be considered part of that ethnically diverse audience. So now your "anti-white" charge holds even less water.
It is obvious what she means, you are just being intellectually dishonest about it. She didn't say the "ethnically diverse crowd" she said to the "ethnically diverse people in the audience". She and several others before her talk abotu how he attacks non-whites, and then she says he ought to apologize to the ethnically diverse people". The only logical conclusion is that she views the non-whites as the ethnically diverse people, and thus my original premise stands.
@nogoodusernames100 Repeating it and taking a shot at me does not make it so. The only thing that is "obvious" is that you cannot back up your original premise. There is nothing in what she said that says whites are excluded from the ethnically diverse people in the audience. And again, were anyone to come to conclusions about Jared Taylor that he himself did not make, his supporters would not let it go by.
@NoPawn I repeated my premise, and then validated it. You are mis-characterizing my posts, that it obvious to any fair reader here. You aren't taking a position at all, or debunking my premise, you just keep saying that there is no way to prove what she means. that is the extent of your argument. You just keep repeating yourself. But that is not even a rebuttal in it of itself. You didn't counter my premise or provide evidence like i did.
@nogoodusernames100 There's that word "obvious" again. You are hell bent in thinking for others, aren't you? Still, in one regard, you're right. There is no way to prove what she means. Well, actually there is. She herself has to SAY what she means. Absent that you don't have much of a leg to stand on. All you have are baseless speculations with no evidence. Then again, deciding what people are without giving them a chance to show you is the main trait of racist scumbags anyway.
Nothing wrong with the word obvious. It fits the situation. I am not thinking for other people, I am just making a logical inference from the evidence provided. But the fact of the matter is, you aren't providing a counterargument. You can keeping typing that I am wrong in my interpretation, but the statement doesn't hold any validity unless you provide any evidence to the contrary of my arguments, and it is hypocritical that you call my arguments baseless when your's have no basis.
It's funny you talking about engaging in attacks and baseless arguments, but you do the very same thing in your posts when you attribute a supposed trait to me and than attach it to "racist scumbags". And talk abotu the a baseless and inflammatory word, "racist". It's over usage has made the word a joke and the meaning is totally subjective.
@nogoodusernames100 BINGO! You were set up. Notice how I did not do that in all the other posts I made? Notice how I didn't actually CALL you a "racist scumbag"? I wanted to see if you were being as obtuse as I expected you were, and sure enough you are. You immediately picked up on me possibly doing to you what you ARE doing to that woman in the video. Now, why don't you just give it up?
I was set up? There is no comparison. You assigned me a trait, and said it was a trait of a racist scumbag, and were not so subtly calling me a racist scumbag. How does your "set-up" debunk my premise or the corresponding evidence? In fact, it is totally off-topic and a diversion. You still haven't given a explanation as to who the "ethnically diverse people" could be other than the "non-white people", or given any evidence like I have.
This whole show is a nonsense, and I wonder why anyone would seek to promote it as relevant to an important issue... - A woman repeatedly shouting “you ought to be ashamed of yourself” at Taylor. - A caller suggesting Taylor should be punished by having his children marry someone of another race!!!
This in no way addresses anything - it is infantile, silly & intellectually bankrupt.
"Protests" huh? You conveniently failed to mention that those hotels cancelled not because of mere "protests" but because they were inundated with death threats. Is this the kind thing you condone, Pawn?
I guess free speech and the right to assemble only applies when it's speech you like.
@joelthomaspeterson Here's the thing, and I mentioned this before. The whole thing about the death threats started with Jared Taylor. No one from the hotel has said this, no police report, nothing about any kind of investigation. Frankly, I don't trust Taylor enough to believe him at face value like that. Oh, and I read AmRen, and they aren't too fond of Muslims building mosques in this country, per their free speech and right to assemble, so right back at ya!
Ha. You wouldn't accept my proof, of course. Your hatred of Jared Taylor is too great for you to be even close to objective on this. Fortunately, Dr. David Yeagley, who was going to speak at the cancelled AR conference, is suing the faceless thugs responsible. Part of his claim states:
"These Defendants and their co-conspirators contacted hotels retained to host Plaintiff’s speaking engagement and used threats of murder, violence..."
@joelthomaspeterson And regardless of what I would and would not accept, the courts will have to weigh the proof a lot more responsibly than you, I or even Yeagley, correct? How is that case going anyway?
Also, answer my question, if you dare. Do you or do you not support the Civil Rights Act of 1964, including Title II? Your answer will tell us just how consistent you when it comes to the matter of freedom of association.
@joelthomaspeterson Yes, and I see where you're going with it. You're going to say that if I believe that, then a business can also keep out black people if they want, just like the hotels can keep Taylor's conferences out. If you think you can make the argument that Jared Taylor's little conferences fall under the protection of the Commerce Clause go ahead and try. We did as black people and succeeded.
@joelthomaspeterson Like I said, "Yes, and I see where you're going with it. You're going to say that if I believe that, then a business can also keep out black people if they want, just like the hotels can keep Taylor's conferences out. If you think you can make the argument that Jared Taylor's little conferences fall under the protection of the Commerce Clause go ahead and try. We did as black people and succeeded."
So you do indeed support Title II. Just as I thought, you're a hypocrite. You don't really believe in freedom of association, unlike those of us on Jared Taylor's side of the fence.
@joelthomaspeterson They do? But they can't respect the hotels that want them out, eh? Who's the hypocrite? Oh, by the way were you discriminated - and I mean really discriminated, not your belief that you were - because you are white? Because under Title II that would be wrong, and I agree. You...don't have a problem with that, do you?
You're feelings are wrong. Unlike you, hypocrite, I am not afraid of consistency.
Those hotels can host whomever they like, as long as they are able to do so under their own volition. The problem, as I pointed out and as you failed to acknowledge, is that there is good evidence that those hotels were coerced by death threats. That is what I have a problem with, not the hotels cancelling per se. And death threats are a legitimate civil matter, nothing to do with Title II.
@joelthomaspeterson Yeah, I have to admit you're consistent. You have consistently avoided saying what that evidence is, and instead you talk smack. Tell me what that evidence is? I know that you can't, and you are too afraid to say so.
And as I already said, the evidence that I would point to won't be considered by you or any other anti-white bigot. At this point, it's mostly about who you're willing to believe. And I'm not even asking you to believe the death threats charge. However, if you were even close to honest on this, you would have at least mentioned the "alleged" death threats in your little video, instead of pretending that the "protests" were entirely on the up and up without any claim to the contrary.
@joelthomaspeterson LOL! That logic was so tortured I think you work for Rumsfeld! So by that, Taylor when he touts these alleged death threats, he should also mention that no one has admitted to them, right? See, the hotel hasn't commented on them, not to mention they aren't the ones suing. No one can even find a police report on the matter. And I am telling you this knowing the possibility that it won't be considered by you, but you can't mention the evidence you claim to have. Interesting...
I know leftist behavior, hypocrite. I know how anti-white bigots like yourself operate. AR has never had trouble like this until this past year, hotel after hotel canceling at the last minute. Death threats were made, and I believe that will be shown by Yeagley's case. But you will continue to deny it, even after it is proven, because you don't really have a problem with that kind of behavior, provided its directed at the 'right' people. You are a thug and a supporter of thugs.
@joelthomaspeterson No one was paying real attention to them until around '06, when after that conference one of their attendees was fired. Then people came out in 2008, and the rest is history. None of it you can actually show had anything to do with death threats, and if you could you would have by now.
There's nothing wrong with my logic. What's tortured is your twisted interpretation of the Commerce Clause, which you leftists have been using for decades now to deny people their right to private property and freedom of association. When you don't get your way, you make death threats and resort to baseless name-calling. This is leftist behavior 101, which you have down pat.
@joelthomaspeterson Well not even a conservative Supreme Court can get you rightists over the Commerce Clause hurdle, so go figure. You're fighting a lost cause, fool. All you can do is cry on the internet. You all used to be stronger than that. Now the only thing you can hang your hat on is a flimsy court case in Oklahoma.
@NoPawn: "See, the hotel hasn't commented on them"
Wrong:
"the second of the first two hotels broke its contract with a quote that offered a suggested explanation: “concern for the safety of our employees.”
Question: Why, Pawn the hypocrite, why would the hotel offer such an explanation for cancellation of a valid contract if some kind of threat of violence wasn't made against them?
Like I said, no matter what you're not going to believe Taylor or anyone else connected with AR. You'll believe anything the SPLC says, on the other hand. Of course! They're a leftist organization. But that Taylor and Yeagley, why, those guys are bigots who lie about everything! Yeah, yeah. Yawn.
Where's your evidence that Taylor and Yeagley are lying about this? Were you there? Were you involved in any way with the events that took place? No? Hmm. And yet you seem to know so much more about it than the guys who actually were. Interesting.
Why should I believe you over those guys? You're just an anti-white bigot who made a stupid YouTube video.
@joelthomaspeterson Well, you said yourself you don't have to believe me and that it will be settled in court. What say we wait and see that things will go as I say? I'm just trying to keep you from feeling too disappointed.
Still waiting on proof about that 2006 One People's Project incident you referred to. Did it really happen? And if so, how do you know it was "racists" trying to stop the event for "racist" reasons? Maybe it was just an unrelated gang banging. Prove it. Oh, that's right, you can't. See, just like I said, it's not about "proof" or "evidence" with you; you already have your biased mind made up. Nothing Taylor says could be true but antifa? Everything they say is the gospel truth.
@joelthomaspeterson Well, there is a police report in Jacksonville, Fl from Dec. 16, 2006. The club (since closed down) was called Thee Imperial. Look it up.
"Yet a third hotel was selected, outside the District of Columbia. Even stronger intimidation of the hotel and its employees was wreaked out. An actual death threat was recorded. “If you hold this conference I will go in there and shoot you.” The hotel of course reported this to the police, but, nevertheless cancelled its contract with American Renaissance."
So an actual death threat was recorded and the police were contacted.
@joelthomaspeterson So where's the police report? Where's the tape? Where is the proof that those mentioned were responsible? Why didn't the hotel press charges? Why isn't the hotel suing? Hell, why isn't Jared Taylor HIMSELF suing?
You know, Pawn, why don't you ask the media those questions? Why didn't they investigate this? If this had been a pro-black, civil rights conference shut down, the media, both local and national, would have been all over it. But who cares if a bunch of "racists" are shut down due to death threats and intimidation, right? After all, they deserve it, the Nazis that they are. Right, Pawn?
@joelthomaspeterson Hmmmm...One People's Project was supposed to have an anti-racist concert in Jacksonville, Floride back in Dec. 2006, and it was shut down when someone shot out the windows of the club the night before. Where's the news story on that?
And let's say Taylor, Yeagley, et al., lied about the whole death threats thing. What a great story! What member of the upstanding liberal media wouldn't want to expose "racists" like Taylor as liars who would stoop so low as to make up a death threat story?! Instant Pulitzer consideration! Yet, the media was no where to be found, even the "conservative" media. Funny, eh? Why was that? Why was there barely even a peep about this whole thing?
@joelthomaspeterson They avoid talking about racism in general as much as they can. If the right person in the right position puts the story out there the media jumps on it. Otherwise they don't.
@NoPawn: "They avoid talking about racism in general as much as they can."
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!
You're funny, Pawn. No, really. That was a good one.
Whew.
But let's get back to reality, which is this: The media can't get enough of "racism." The media never misses an opportunity to remind us just how "racist" the tea party is, how "racist" America was and still is, etc. Nor do they miss an opportunity to remind us over and over and over again about slavery.
@joelthomaspeterson When it's esoteric stuff or can be disputed like with the teabaggers, of course, but why are they going to give name recognition to a nobody like Jared Taylor?
@joelthomaspeterson You mean like Jim Russell, Frank Borzellieri and the prosecutor who was fired for attending the 2006 conference? Martyrs inspire, and those that Taylor inspires don't amount to much to begin with.
@joelthomaspeterson That's because it's true. When it's not true no one will talk about it. America is a country steeped in racial hatred, always pointed squarely at blacks. That's just the truth.
@mxzysptlik I suggest you move to Africa, to avoid the oppression of which you are apparently a victim. When you get to Africa, ask the locals to help you build a hut out of mud and straw.
There's your evidence, hypocrite. Now, just like I predicted, go ahead and excuse it as if it's nothing, which is precisely why I didn't offer it to you in the first place. Again, you are an irrational Jared Taylor hater and anti-white bigot. Again, no amount of evidence will ever be enough for you, because you are committed to the idea that you're right and AR is evil and deserves whatever it gets. Now go ahead and dismiss everything as mere hearsay. Go on.
@joelthomaspeterson You were right. I was going to dismiss it. You said it yourself, it is hearsay. You KNOW it is hearsay! No amount of evidence would be enough for me? Hell, that isn't enough for anyone! Except the folks who want to kiss Jared Taylor's ass. Like you.
@joelthomaspeterson Well, you're pretty crappy at showing where, that's for damn sure. You can't just make things be the way you want them to be. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@darklord220 Oh, so you don't care about anyone else's freedoms, just his, eh? His freedom of speech was not denied. He ended up going somewhere that didn't have a problem with him - but then again they didn't know what he was using their place for. The hotels did, and they exercised their right to say no to him, just like they did this year. But in two days, he will be at the Council of Conservative Citizens Conference which isn't being stopped. We haven't tried to.
The last part of what Jared Taylor said is so true.
Dercommandingofficer 2 weeks ago
Donahue is a stupid asshole. He keeps asking questions but then won't shut up and let Jared Taylor answer them.
Elmore3141 3 weeks ago
Also take note there is no such thing as a white supremacist. A supremacist is someone who thinks he is better than someone else. Whites are better than everyone else and immigration numbers are all the proof needed.
caucasiannation 3 weeks ago
@caucasiannation Allrighty then...
NoPawn 3 weeks ago
@caucasiannation quite right
alanbstard4 1 week ago
Where the conferences are concerned what you’re not being told is the hotels canceled the reservations because of death threats against the management and employees of this business. The came from the people of tolerance who claim that all should be equal except when it concerns white people. Also since they claim white supremacists are the attendees how do you explain the large number of Jews that attend.
caucasiannation 3 weeks ago
@caucasiannation One that could be explained by the fact that Jews can be racist too. As for the "death threats", what's your source, the hotel? How about a police report? Anyone arrested? No? Then it didn't happen.
NoPawn 3 weeks ago
Finally someone speeks the obvious truth courageously.
moonlightcrawler 1 month ago
Why does Israel have Laws of Jew ONLY Marriage?.....
StSimonMartyr 1 month ago
@StSimonMartyr That's because they want their own group to be pure. But of course they oppose anyone who advocates white racial purity. They seem to want all other groups to mix, leaving Jews pure and in control.
Elmore3141 3 weeks ago
@Elmore3141 There is no "racial purity"...you're probably part black haha...check your family treee.
mxzysptlik 2 weeks ago
@mxzysptlik If you don't think Jews prefer their offspring marry Jews (as I said) and for the sake of relative racial purity, you're an imbecile. The fact that there is no water that is 100% pure is not a valid argument for not caring whether a water supply has been adulterated.
I have no negro blood, but if I did, my arguments would be the same. Logic is not exclusive to those who are 100% pure of race. Some negroes are capable of rational thought. You, obviously, are not.
Elmore3141 2 weeks ago
@Elmore3141 I know, it's so hard for me to think....my brain hurts!
mxzysptlik 2 weeks ago
I love how the first thing that black woman says is "I'm a proud black woman and I'M STRONG" - doesn't sound too confident when you have to come up and tell us all that you're strong.
Sounds actually rather weak and frail.
Reazzurro90 1 month ago
His ending comment was a great summary of white nationalism in general. It looked like some of the audience was receptive to it and even Donahue had a look of concern. They may not have responded to it but I bet it planted a seed.
wwppk 1 month ago
Jared Taylor is a European HERO .
Bk19731973 1 month ago
Donahue seems very interested in black penis size.
capturedpilot 2 months ago
White Christians are not the elite. The elite are Jewish...The Federal Reserve, Wall St, The World Bank, The IMF, the media, etc., all run by Jews. Our entire foreign policy can be summed up as, "Is it good for Israel?" You are either ignorant of the truth, in denial, or you're a liar. I don't really care which one you choose.
MrFrozenyoga 2 months ago 4
@MrFrozenyoga So...white Christians have no money or power. AND they were supposed to be the ones that built this country? Wow, that's right up there with the whole genocide "fact" you haven't backed up yet.
Let me guess, you are going to tell me that there is no convincing me, throw out an insult and end the conversation, right? Because somewhere around this point conservatives pull that chicken-shit move with me.
NoPawn 2 months ago
@MrFrozenyoga
we need affirmative action for gentiles to help them feel equal to jews. subtract ten points off every jewish test score to level the playing field
rddaos 1 month ago
Demographic projections are NOT spin, they are fact. It is a well established FACT at this point that the elites have engineered a genocide against white Christian Europeans. In fact, MANY years ago Bill Clinton even gloated during a very stupid speech that whites would be a minority by mid century. There is nothing subjective about these facts, the only subjectivity here is your bullshit rhetoric.
You sound like a Jewish supremacist.
MrFrozenyoga 2 months ago
@MrFrozenyoga And you sound like someone who knows that he can't back up his BS so instead of trying you repeat it and take a personal swipe for good measure. So, let's embarrass you further, shall we? If it is a "well established FACT at this point that the elites have engineered a genocide against white Christian Europeans" - which is curious since white Christian Europeans are seen AS the elite - why don't you point where this so-called genocide was established, hmmmmm?
NoPawn 2 months ago
Demographic projections don't lie. Immigration DOES amount to white genocide, a very calculated and engineered white genocide. Prior to 1965, 90% of our immigrants were white European Christians, educated and skilled. Post 1965, our immigrants are 90% non-white, uneducated, unskilled.
MrFrozenyoga 2 months ago
@MrFrozenyoga But how you spin those demographic projections as some sort of fact that there is genocide happening IS a lie. Don't mistake your subjectiveness for gospel, especially since you cheapen true genocide for even cheaper political stunts.
NoPawn 2 months ago
@NoPawn
How can white people survive when we have a negative growth rate already and non whites are using mostly our taxes to feed kids they can't even afford?
If it weren't for white people's taxes most 'Hispanics' in this country wouldn't not even be born, we actually own them in a way.
also, look up the word 'genocide' and its origins, you clearly only know what the media decides to tell you.
ptbwf 1 week ago
I agree that they kept throwing below the belt punches at Jared, but he remains unruffled and logical. The main point of Jared's objection to immigration isn't that whites are superior; the main point is that the huge flows of third worlders amounts to white genocide. Again I have to note that I don't understand why he's labeled a "hatemonger" when he is simply stating the obvious elephant in the room facts.
MrFrozenyoga 2 months ago
@MrFrozenyoga Because his main point is that the huge flows of third worlders amounts to white genocide - which is crap. Whites aren't going anywhere. It's pure propaganda for the paranoid dellusional and he knows it.
NoPawn 2 months ago
@NoPawn White people are already a minority in the world. If whites become a minority in their own countries, they will have nowhere left to go. What do you think will happen then? Why do you hate white people, why do you want white people to slowly disappear?
howiloggedin 2 months ago
@howiloggedin White people are not going anywhere, but I can't say the same for the paranoid fucks who can't accept the face that Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Jews, Muslims, etc. aren't going anywhere either.
NoPawn 2 months ago
@NoPawn actually they are all things indicate that there will one day there will be one race and that the white race will be the first to go......i personally dont care if i am dumber then Asians i dont give a shit and some of these people just seem scared of black people lol i like mixed people i am my self and i think mixed race women are generally the hottest
Antioxidantt 2 months ago
@howiloggedin No one hates white people...wtf is wrong with you people?
mxzysptlik 2 weeks ago
Why would anyone be outraged with people getting together and talking. I just think we all should mind our own bussines a bit more
AtheistRightWing 2 months ago
Most people crying racism aren’t experiencing it. racism involves race. Muslims for example aren’t a race but a realign composed of mixed ethnic follower. Jews are a realign composed of mixed ethnic groups. Latin’s mix group united by language. Gays not race but people united by there sexuality
SuperRoyalty11 2 months ago
@SuperRoyalty11 Okay, so we should be calling it bigotry.
NoPawn 2 months ago
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Aletheophile 2 months ago
@Aletheophile And make no mistake, antiracists are NOT saying "We have haven't been convinced by any arguments for race realism or, so we're reserving judgement" they are saying "We *know* that the egalitarian hypothesis* is true, and if you don't agree you're not just mistaken but downright evil".
*because that's what it is, a synthetic hypothesis, not an analytic truth.
Aletheophile 2 months ago
What Jared doesn't seem to realize is that racism is bad because racism is bad. Diversity is a strength because diversity is a strength. Humans are all humans. There isn't enough genetic variation for the races to differ, except for in the ways they do differ. Some racial differences are environmental ergo all racial differences are environmental. Empirical hypotheses can be refuted a priori if they are RACIST. He's a RACIST. This is about as good as antiracist "arguments" get
Aletheophile 2 months ago
@Aletheophile No, the biggest advantage of an anti-racist argument is against bigotry, delusions of superiority, and superficial beliefs that are no different than religious fanaticism and that are not practical, unproven for a truth, and pretty retarded. There's a lot of that in racism and racism is only one big example of those.
Tetzukai 2 months ago
@Aletheophile The studies aren't racist...I'm not against asking questions but the they're not questions done for the sake of "scientific understanding" they're questions asked for the sake of racism. If you can't acknowledge that you're an idiot...or maybe you ARE racist. Something most don't like to admit. Before "genetics" it was something else, there will always be a justification in your mind to treat someone badly. And yes I'm black.
mxzysptlik 2 weeks ago
@Aletheophile And the biggest problem PRO-racists have is believing that they are not dealing with the people they will adversely affect if they were to get their way. It is interesting. Taylor these days is fond of saying "We just want to be left alone", but I have yet to see any of him and his fellow pro-racists leave anyone else alone. Case in point: By his logic everyone should leave Muslims alone.
NoPawn 2 months ago
@NoPawn Most people leave most other people alone most of the time, leaving each other alone is the default relation ship between 2 people. OK what exactly would happen if "racists" got their way, and who would suffer for it? "everyone should leave Muslims alone" yes, they should.
Aletheophile 2 months ago
@Aletheophile Ummmm....exactly what happened when they HAD their way! It's not like we would be trying something new here! We kind of suffered their BS before.
NoPawn 2 months ago
@NoPawn Lots of things happened in the past, some pretty bad, some not so bad. you've got to be more specific than that. Tell us exactly what you are afraid of, show us when people like Taylor actually called for that, or how in follows from things they did say, and explain whose rights would be violated if it did happen.
Aletheophile 2 months ago
@Aletheophile Better yet, why don't I use you and that sorry attempt at trying to say you don't believe in putting civilization in the hands you have decided for yourself would not be able to maintain it? How are you going to keep us from taking control?
NoPawn 2 months ago
It's a shame that so many people are anti-free speech.
m46279 2 months ago
The packed faced left realy dislike this guy, He says, what many would considered 'uncomfortable' views but they're as valid for airing as any other. White flight, changing demographics & the possiblity of a 'Brazil style' society where a dwindling white minority live in gated communities chauffeured around in armored cars everywhere, surrounded largely by a predominantly pore disenfranchise mulato communiy , living in crime ridden favelas. It's not exactly an ideal model for the USA or Europe
Regalseven 3 months ago
@Regalseven I agree. If you are so full of yourselves that you have to live in a gated community chauffeufered around in armored cars everywhere, you should really just leave.
NoPawn 3 months ago
what is the goal of the "pro-diversity" crowd?
do they want to stop seeing people along racial lines, and just view a human as a human? if so, then why are they hell-bent on increasing the amount of colored people in everything if they are blind to color?
if not, then aren't they inherently racist?
UltraProle21 3 months ago
@UltraProle21 Not if they are white themselves!
NoPawn 3 months ago
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UltraProle21 3 months ago
To stop citizens of a republic from joining together to discuss their views It is not a victory for anything except totalitarianism.
alexandrosgrekski 3 months ago
So they attempt to shame him with below the belt jibes, condescending sarcasm and pathetic sentimental multukult sloganeering, but the moment they let him speak he slams them down with brute intellectual force, and they still pretend they have won the argument, and go right along with more personal shaming. This really shows how intellectually bankrupt anti-racism is as a whole. Check your brain at the door and let your amygdala run on overdrive because that's all its really needed here.
LyricSuite78 3 months ago 16
you wanna know what it'll be like for the whites in a minority?, 2 words; South Africa
yabitchonmydikk 4 months ago
@yabitchonmydikk An apartheid system where they rule until the indigenous people reclaim their land?
NoPawn 4 months ago
@NoPawn no, whites being persecuted, butcherd, harrased shot killed, falling victim to genocide, look it up...
yabitchonmydikk 4 months ago
@yabitchonmydikk I did, and for generations it was whites doing that. Now uh...you did have a problem with that, correct?
NoPawn 4 months ago
@NoPawn its wrong for anyone to do it to anyone, but my point is whites are gonna be on the recieveing end of the whip when there in a minority
yabitchonmydikk 4 months ago
the statement at the end seems to indicate you're opposed to the 1rst amendment
david1965af 4 months ago
@david1965af And you are opposed to freedom of association. Who said you can force someone to host you?
NoPawn 4 months ago
@NoPawn: "Who said you can force someone to host you?"
I take then that you're opposed to Title II of the Civil Rights Act?
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
Does anyone ever wonder why racism didn't seem to exist until about 500 years ago?I've read about ancient cultures who thought they had superior civilization,but nothing about superior races.
MrJabloney 5 months ago
A white person who says blacks are inferior is a white person who has never studied a musical score written by Duke Ellington, a composition written by Wayne Shorter, or contemplated the artistry of Robert Johnson's blues.
I've met (and work with) blacks who have Phds; who have law degrees; who are MDs. This guy Taylor is simply a buffoon. Donahue did him a favor by giving him such a large audience.
bapyou 5 months ago
@bapyou I think most white supremacists would respond that they never said that all white people are superior in all respects to every black person. So if you can find someone making that argument, then congratulations. You've refuted them. But while we're on the subject of blacks and brains: How many black Nobel Prize-winning scientists have there been? How many black scientists have even come close? How many black math PhD's are there? There's a definite deficit in this area.
seancrapola 5 months ago
@seancrapola And when there is economic parity between blacks & others, perhaps the 'deficit' would be erased.
"Political Freedom without economic equality is a pretense, a fraud, a lie. " -- Bakunin
Taylor is simply a pig with a veneer of intelligence. Individual whites & blacks are intelligent & not-so-intellignet. Intelligence is not determined by race. Those who have attempted to claim it is (& they are legion) have been refuted repeatedly.
May I enslave your your family? Thanks.
bapyou 5 months ago
I have watched all episodes in this set (with jared taylor) and the only credit I can give Mr Donahue is that he took part in them
Donahue was out debated and totally demolished taking refuge in mild outrage and demagogic sentimental rhetoric..
The verbal postscript was sinister in the extreme.
Tolerant Liberals only celebrate youir right to express that with which they agree.
I wonder if such debates still take place in the USA.
They dont in the Uk and probably this set is the reason why.
divvy1400yam600 5 months ago
How sickening that people actually harassed this law-abiding group. If anything, it helps their case that their viewpoints are the targets of victimization.
scimath42 5 months ago
Multiculturalism is a secular religion mandated by the state. Speak out against it and you will lose your job, your right to human dignity and you will be branded just as the Jews were branded with the yellow star.
People will want you DEAD and the state will not lift a finger of concern for your fate, you will be on par with a domestic terrorist.
mindprism 6 months ago 2
@46coolhandluke No twisting. We want you gone and you are going away. You believe in freedoms, do as you say and mean it for everyone. Taylor doesn't do that.
NoPawn 6 months ago
@NoPawn I bet u have no real comeback for the ending statement he said now do you? Let me refresh you! He said you all say racism will end when we are all the same and a mixed society right? That is admitting to the fact a society of different races don't work, and also is in fact saying we should disappear as a people. If we get bred out we are gone and if you agree with that your either a self hating White or a genocidal non-White! Please try to reply!
Whitevoice14 5 months ago
I liek the part at the end where you're opposed to free speech
StatelessEuphoria 6 months ago 7
@StatelessEuphoria Actually in the end, Taylor's freedom of speech remained intact, as well as ours and the freedom of association of the hotels he tried to book when they rejected him after they realized what they were bringing among their other patrons.
NoPawn 6 months ago
@NoPawn EXACTLY. Some people are too stupid to understand what free speech really means.
MIvarsson99 5 months ago
@StatelessEuphoria When a private business, which is not affiliated with the government denies a person entry or denies to him a speaking engagement, it has NOTHING to at all to do with free speech.
Only in America would someone be so brash as to complain that a man's right to free speech has been violated when he is allowed to walk freely about and even appear on major television networks, spewing his foolish beliefs and advocating racial class warfare and separatism.
MIvarsson99 5 months ago
@MIvarsson99
so you're cool with deaht threats then, huh?
StatelessEuphoria 5 months ago
@StatelessEuphoria No. I'm not "cool" with someone getting death threats but I don't think they violate a person's free speech. Call the damn police if you get a death threat. Case closed.
ONLY the government can violate a person's free speech. Private individuals cannot infringe upon anyone's Constitutional rights. A racist such as yourself should understand that. It was one of the main arguments people like you used to prevent government from outlawing private acts of discrimination.
MIvarsson99 5 months ago
@MIvarsson99
oh lawdy lawdy, I's a raycyst!
StatelessEuphoria 5 months ago
@StatelessEuphoria I like your username but I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm just going to call you nigger and walk away. Cool username though.
MIvarsson99 5 months ago
@StatelessEuphoria Taylor spoke. So did we. He just can't convince people to support him.
NoPawn 4 months ago
You wanna know what a hero looks like well your looking at him, And his name is Jared Taylor.
carrtex 6 months ago
Is that meant to be ironic at the end that whites are being discriminated against for discussing what is in the interests of whites? Why aren't there similiar protests against black charter schools and black rascist organizations?
catalystleader 6 months ago 4
@catalystleader No irony. It's what you get when you try to bring back segregation. Perhaps you should pursue other interests if your current ones means it will come at the expense of the rights of others.
NoPawn 6 months ago
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@NoPawn
"It's what you get when you try to bring back segregation. Perhaps you should pursue other interests if your current ones means it will come at the expense of the rights of others."
Oh yeah, why don't you lobby against the systemic segregation in Palestine and make sure the judeofascists there don't pursue any interests at the expense of others. Deal Shlomof?
Cefuroxx 5 months ago
You can't help but smirk at the arrogance of certain Liberals when it comes to topics such as Immigration, Race, Religion and DIEversity. All they do is say its wonderful and use insults to silence those who give them the cold hard facts.
Multi-culturalism has never worked, nor will it ever work.
TheGatesOfViennaII 6 months ago
Irregardless of ones feelings for Mr. Taylor and his views, this video series is a great example of why it is so difficult to have a fair debate. Donahue comes off as condescending and arrogant, unable to provide any level of substance to his comments. Jared Taylor, on the other hand, attempted to explain his positions and was often interrupted with a nonsensical question about a statement he had not even finished making. Taylor's biggest mistake however was when he insulted Donahue's sanity.
Farrell81 6 months ago
@Farrell81 {Taylor's biggest mistake however was when he insulted Donahue's sanity.}
Mistake perhaps, but not inaccurate, did you see Donahue squirming in glee when he was ranting about "...and theres nothing you can do that will stop it". That is a sick mind filled with utter contempt for whites who do not toe the liberal line. He wants them dead.
mindprism 6 months ago
Clearly a rather cherry-picked audience.
White people will either awaken to the demographic crises or they will simply be phased out of existence. And it will happen within decades, not centuries.
RoyalistNationalist 6 months ago
@RoyalistNationalist Actually, it's people like Taylor, with the help of white people, that will be phased out of existence, and we're looking at years.
NoPawn 6 months ago
I applaude Phil Donahue and that black woman for stepping up against a racist white guy who doesn't understand the beauty of diversity. I pity the supporters of this silly lunatic because we are called by God to love one another no matter what race we are. He wants an only white society with a racist ideology. The nazis had the exact same thing and look what happened to them. Look at it this way without diversity we would not have italian food, jazz, christmas, fiestas, etc.
BowendaBeast 7 months ago
The proud college woman was obviously a product of an Affirmative Action education judging by her oh so eloquent rantings.
Thank God we have Mr. Taylor championing the cause as well as taking more than one for the team.
djinn38 7 months ago
I thought it was interesting how the black woman near the middle of the clip said Jared Taylor should apologize to the "ethnically diverse" people in the audience. She clearly means non-white. So when liberal advocates like her say diversity is intrinsically good, they are saying there is something intrinsically good in creating non-white societies and non-white societies that doesn't exist in White societies. This really confirms their anti-white bias.
nogoodusernames100 7 months ago
@nogoodusernames100 You know, I have to make a point about something. Were someone to suggest Taylor means something he doesn't actually say, that would be called out by his supporters as putting words in his mouth and creating a scenario that doesn't exist. And yet, here you are posting what you say this woman "clearly means". Your arguments are shot down a lot of times because of the dishonest approaches to them. She didn't say she was anti-white, and you can't say it for her. Sorry.
NoPawn 7 months ago
@NoPawn
Ok, than you tell me what she means by saying Mr.Taylor ought to apologize to the "ethnically diverse people in the audience"? Who are the ethnically diverse people in the audience, and who are the ethnically non-diverse he shouldn't apologize to? The only logical conclusion is she was talking about race. If she was talking about dividing people by political sensibilities, she could have said, "you should apologize to the multiculturalists, liberals, leftists etc" in the audience.
nogoodusernames100 7 months ago
@nogoodusernames100 Wow, you just completely missed what I wrote, didn't you? I can't tell you what she means! Neither can you! Neither of us are her. Having said that, I do know that the people in the audience included quite a few white people in the audience. So they would have to be considered part of that ethnically diverse audience. So now your "anti-white" charge holds even less water.
NoPawn 7 months ago
@NoPawn
It is obvious what she means, you are just being intellectually dishonest about it. She didn't say the "ethnically diverse crowd" she said to the "ethnically diverse people in the audience". She and several others before her talk abotu how he attacks non-whites, and then she says he ought to apologize to the ethnically diverse people". The only logical conclusion is that she views the non-whites as the ethnically diverse people, and thus my original premise stands.
nogoodusernames100 7 months ago
@nogoodusernames100 Repeating it and taking a shot at me does not make it so. The only thing that is "obvious" is that you cannot back up your original premise. There is nothing in what she said that says whites are excluded from the ethnically diverse people in the audience. And again, were anyone to come to conclusions about Jared Taylor that he himself did not make, his supporters would not let it go by.
NoPawn 7 months ago
@NoPawn I repeated my premise, and then validated it. You are mis-characterizing my posts, that it obvious to any fair reader here. You aren't taking a position at all, or debunking my premise, you just keep saying that there is no way to prove what she means. that is the extent of your argument. You just keep repeating yourself. But that is not even a rebuttal in it of itself. You didn't counter my premise or provide evidence like i did.
nogoodusernames100 7 months ago
@nogoodusernames100 There's that word "obvious" again. You are hell bent in thinking for others, aren't you? Still, in one regard, you're right. There is no way to prove what she means. Well, actually there is. She herself has to SAY what she means. Absent that you don't have much of a leg to stand on. All you have are baseless speculations with no evidence. Then again, deciding what people are without giving them a chance to show you is the main trait of racist scumbags anyway.
NoPawn 7 months ago
@NoPawn
Nothing wrong with the word obvious. It fits the situation. I am not thinking for other people, I am just making a logical inference from the evidence provided. But the fact of the matter is, you aren't providing a counterargument. You can keeping typing that I am wrong in my interpretation, but the statement doesn't hold any validity unless you provide any evidence to the contrary of my arguments, and it is hypocritical that you call my arguments baseless when your's have no basis.
nogoodusernames100 7 months ago
@NoPawn
It's funny you talking about engaging in attacks and baseless arguments, but you do the very same thing in your posts when you attribute a supposed trait to me and than attach it to "racist scumbags". And talk abotu the a baseless and inflammatory word, "racist". It's over usage has made the word a joke and the meaning is totally subjective.
nogoodusernames100 7 months ago
@nogoodusernames100 BINGO! You were set up. Notice how I did not do that in all the other posts I made? Notice how I didn't actually CALL you a "racist scumbag"? I wanted to see if you were being as obtuse as I expected you were, and sure enough you are. You immediately picked up on me possibly doing to you what you ARE doing to that woman in the video. Now, why don't you just give it up?
NoPawn 7 months ago
@NoPawn
I was set up? There is no comparison. You assigned me a trait, and said it was a trait of a racist scumbag, and were not so subtly calling me a racist scumbag. How does your "set-up" debunk my premise or the corresponding evidence? In fact, it is totally off-topic and a diversion. You still haven't given a explanation as to who the "ethnically diverse people" could be other than the "non-white people", or given any evidence like I have.
nogoodusernames100 7 months ago
@nogoodusernames100 Oh, I understand now. You can't read anything that doesn't work with your worldview, so you missed everything I wrote.
NoPawn 7 months ago
@NoPawn
No I can read, you just can't make a concrete point. Maybe you ought to restate yourself.
nogoodusernames100 7 months ago
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nogoodusernames100 7 months ago
Donahue is such an incompetent simpleton.
kynismos 7 months ago
the only comments that blacks can make is "YOU RACIST!"
that's their level of intelligence in a nutshell.
cirosuperiore 7 months ago 3
@cirosuperiore If this is how you talk in your day to day, you're right. We are pretty astute apparently.
NoPawn 7 months ago
This whole show is a nonsense, and I wonder why anyone would seek to promote it as relevant to an important issue... - A woman repeatedly shouting “you ought to be ashamed of yourself” at Taylor. - A caller suggesting Taylor should be punished by having his children marry someone of another race!!!
This in no way addresses anything - it is infantile, silly & intellectually bankrupt.
CeltoSaxonKnight 8 months ago
"Protests" huh? You conveniently failed to mention that those hotels cancelled not because of mere "protests" but because they were inundated with death threats. Is this the kind thing you condone, Pawn?
I guess free speech and the right to assemble only applies when it's speech you like.
joelthomaspeterson 8 months ago 6
@joelthomaspeterson Here's the thing, and I mentioned this before. The whole thing about the death threats started with Jared Taylor. No one from the hotel has said this, no police report, nothing about any kind of investigation. Frankly, I don't trust Taylor enough to believe him at face value like that. Oh, and I read AmRen, and they aren't too fond of Muslims building mosques in this country, per their free speech and right to assemble, so right back at ya!
NoPawn 8 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson Didn't happen.
NoPawn 4 months ago
@NoPawn
Liar.
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson Prove it.
NoPawn 4 months ago
@NoPawn
Ha. You wouldn't accept my proof, of course. Your hatred of Jared Taylor is too great for you to be even close to objective on this. Fortunately, Dr. David Yeagley, who was going to speak at the cancelled AR conference, is suing the faceless thugs responsible. Part of his claim states:
"These Defendants and their co-conspirators contacted hotels retained to host Plaintiff’s speaking engagement and used threats of murder, violence..."
We'll see what the court says.
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson And regardless of what I would and would not accept, the courts will have to weigh the proof a lot more responsibly than you, I or even Yeagley, correct? How is that case going anyway?
NoPawn 4 months ago
@NoPawn
Also, answer my question, if you dare. Do you or do you not support the Civil Rights Act of 1964, including Title II? Your answer will tell us just how consistent you when it comes to the matter of freedom of association.
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson Yes, and I see where you're going with it. You're going to say that if I believe that, then a business can also keep out black people if they want, just like the hotels can keep Taylor's conferences out. If you think you can make the argument that Jared Taylor's little conferences fall under the protection of the Commerce Clause go ahead and try. We did as black people and succeeded.
NoPawn 4 months ago
@NoPawn
Title II, yes or no?
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson Like I said, "Yes, and I see where you're going with it. You're going to say that if I believe that, then a business can also keep out black people if they want, just like the hotels can keep Taylor's conferences out. If you think you can make the argument that Jared Taylor's little conferences fall under the protection of the Commerce Clause go ahead and try. We did as black people and succeeded."
NoPawn 4 months ago
@NoPawn
So you do indeed support Title II. Just as I thought, you're a hypocrite. You don't really believe in freedom of association, unlike those of us on Jared Taylor's side of the fence.
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson They do? But they can't respect the hotels that want them out, eh? Who's the hypocrite? Oh, by the way were you discriminated - and I mean really discriminated, not your belief that you were - because you are white? Because under Title II that would be wrong, and I agree. You...don't have a problem with that, do you?
I have a feeling you're not going to answer that.
NoPawn 4 months ago
@NoPawn
You're feelings are wrong. Unlike you, hypocrite, I am not afraid of consistency.
Those hotels can host whomever they like, as long as they are able to do so under their own volition. The problem, as I pointed out and as you failed to acknowledge, is that there is good evidence that those hotels were coerced by death threats. That is what I have a problem with, not the hotels cancelling per se. And death threats are a legitimate civil matter, nothing to do with Title II.
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson Yeah, I have to admit you're consistent. You have consistently avoided saying what that evidence is, and instead you talk smack. Tell me what that evidence is? I know that you can't, and you are too afraid to say so.
NoPawn 4 months ago
@NoPawn
And as I already said, the evidence that I would point to won't be considered by you or any other anti-white bigot. At this point, it's mostly about who you're willing to believe. And I'm not even asking you to believe the death threats charge. However, if you were even close to honest on this, you would have at least mentioned the "alleged" death threats in your little video, instead of pretending that the "protests" were entirely on the up and up without any claim to the contrary.
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson LOL! That logic was so tortured I think you work for Rumsfeld! So by that, Taylor when he touts these alleged death threats, he should also mention that no one has admitted to them, right? See, the hotel hasn't commented on them, not to mention they aren't the ones suing. No one can even find a police report on the matter. And I am telling you this knowing the possibility that it won't be considered by you, but you can't mention the evidence you claim to have. Interesting...
NoPawn 4 months ago
@NoPawn
I know leftist behavior, hypocrite. I know how anti-white bigots like yourself operate. AR has never had trouble like this until this past year, hotel after hotel canceling at the last minute. Death threats were made, and I believe that will be shown by Yeagley's case. But you will continue to deny it, even after it is proven, because you don't really have a problem with that kind of behavior, provided its directed at the 'right' people. You are a thug and a supporter of thugs.
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson No one was paying real attention to them until around '06, when after that conference one of their attendees was fired. Then people came out in 2008, and the rest is history. None of it you can actually show had anything to do with death threats, and if you could you would have by now.
NoPawn 3 months ago
@NoPawn
There's nothing wrong with my logic. What's tortured is your twisted interpretation of the Commerce Clause, which you leftists have been using for decades now to deny people their right to private property and freedom of association. When you don't get your way, you make death threats and resort to baseless name-calling. This is leftist behavior 101, which you have down pat.
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson Well not even a conservative Supreme Court can get you rightists over the Commerce Clause hurdle, so go figure. You're fighting a lost cause, fool. All you can do is cry on the internet. You all used to be stronger than that. Now the only thing you can hang your hat on is a flimsy court case in Oklahoma.
NoPawn 3 months ago
@NoPawn: "See, the hotel hasn't commented on them"
Wrong:
"the second of the first two hotels broke its contract with a quote that offered a suggested explanation: “concern for the safety of our employees.”
Question: Why, Pawn the hypocrite, why would the hotel offer such an explanation for cancellation of a valid contract if some kind of threat of violence wasn't made against them?
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson And why wouldn't they actually SAY it was death threats, Hmmmmm? Is THIS the best you can do?
NoPawn 3 months ago
@NoPawn
Like I said, no matter what you're not going to believe Taylor or anyone else connected with AR. You'll believe anything the SPLC says, on the other hand. Of course! They're a leftist organization. But that Taylor and Yeagley, why, those guys are bigots who lie about everything! Yeah, yeah. Yawn.
joelthomaspeterson 3 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson As evidenced by this case. Gee, I wonder if it is actually going to end up in a courtroom.
You're light work, buddy.
NoPawn 3 months ago
@NoPawn
Where's your evidence that Taylor and Yeagley are lying about this? Were you there? Were you involved in any way with the events that took place? No? Hmm. And yet you seem to know so much more about it than the guys who actually were. Interesting.
Why should I believe you over those guys? You're just an anti-white bigot who made a stupid YouTube video.
joelthomaspeterson 3 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson Well, you said yourself you don't have to believe me and that it will be settled in court. What say we wait and see that things will go as I say? I'm just trying to keep you from feeling too disappointed.
NoPawn 3 months ago
@NoPawn
Still waiting on proof about that 2006 One People's Project incident you referred to. Did it really happen? And if so, how do you know it was "racists" trying to stop the event for "racist" reasons? Maybe it was just an unrelated gang banging. Prove it. Oh, that's right, you can't. See, just like I said, it's not about "proof" or "evidence" with you; you already have your biased mind made up. Nothing Taylor says could be true but antifa? Everything they say is the gospel truth.
joelthomaspeterson 3 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson Well, there is a police report in Jacksonville, Fl from Dec. 16, 2006. The club (since closed down) was called Thee Imperial. Look it up.
NoPawn 3 months ago
@NoPawn
More:
"Yet a third hotel was selected, outside the District of Columbia. Even stronger intimidation of the hotel and its employees was wreaked out. An actual death threat was recorded. “If you hold this conference I will go in there and shoot you.” The hotel of course reported this to the police, but, nevertheless cancelled its contract with American Renaissance."
So an actual death threat was recorded and the police were contacted.
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson So where's the police report? Where's the tape? Where is the proof that those mentioned were responsible? Why didn't the hotel press charges? Why isn't the hotel suing? Hell, why isn't Jared Taylor HIMSELF suing?
NoPawn 3 months ago
@NoPawn
You know, Pawn, why don't you ask the media those questions? Why didn't they investigate this? If this had been a pro-black, civil rights conference shut down, the media, both local and national, would have been all over it. But who cares if a bunch of "racists" are shut down due to death threats and intimidation, right? After all, they deserve it, the Nazis that they are. Right, Pawn?
joelthomaspeterson 3 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson Hmmmm...One People's Project was supposed to have an anti-racist concert in Jacksonville, Floride back in Dec. 2006, and it was shut down when someone shot out the windows of the club the night before. Where's the news story on that?
NoPawn 3 months ago
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@NoPawn: "One People's Project was supposed to have an anti-racist concert in Jacksonville"
You mean an anti-white concert. That's what anti-racist means: anti-white.
"when someone shot out the windows of the club the night before."
Prove it.
joelthomaspeterson 3 months ago
@NoPawn
And let's say Taylor, Yeagley, et al., lied about the whole death threats thing. What a great story! What member of the upstanding liberal media wouldn't want to expose "racists" like Taylor as liars who would stoop so low as to make up a death threat story?! Instant Pulitzer consideration! Yet, the media was no where to be found, even the "conservative" media. Funny, eh? Why was that? Why was there barely even a peep about this whole thing?
joelthomaspeterson 3 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson They avoid talking about racism in general as much as they can. If the right person in the right position puts the story out there the media jumps on it. Otherwise they don't.
NoPawn 3 months ago
@NoPawn: "They avoid talking about racism in general as much as they can."
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!
You're funny, Pawn. No, really. That was a good one.
Whew.
But let's get back to reality, which is this: The media can't get enough of "racism." The media never misses an opportunity to remind us just how "racist" the tea party is, how "racist" America was and still is, etc. Nor do they miss an opportunity to remind us over and over and over again about slavery.
joelthomaspeterson 3 months ago 5
@joelthomaspeterson When it's esoteric stuff or can be disputed like with the teabaggers, of course, but why are they going to give name recognition to a nobody like Jared Taylor?
NoPawn 3 months ago
@NoPawn: "but why are they going to give name recognition to a nobody like Jared Taylor?"
Yes, especially if by doing so you risk creating a martyr out of him. Wouldn't want that. No...
joelthomaspeterson 3 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson You mean like Jim Russell, Frank Borzellieri and the prosecutor who was fired for attending the 2006 conference? Martyrs inspire, and those that Taylor inspires don't amount to much to begin with.
NoPawn 3 months ago
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@NoPawn: "and those that Taylor inspires don't amount to much to begin with."
And yet you know their names and obsess so much about them you make YouTube videos about them.
joelthomaspeterson 3 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson That's because it's true. When it's not true no one will talk about it. America is a country steeped in racial hatred, always pointed squarely at blacks. That's just the truth.
mxzysptlik 2 weeks ago
@mxzysptlik I suggest you move to Africa, to avoid the oppression of which you are apparently a victim. When you get to Africa, ask the locals to help you build a hut out of mud and straw.
Elmore3141 2 weeks ago
@Elmore3141 lmao...I love mud huts...my fav!!!
mxzysptlik 2 weeks ago
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@mxzysptlik "lmao...I love mud huts...my fav!!!"
Good, because that's what negroes build when left to their own devices.
Elmore3141 2 weeks ago
@NoPawn
There's your evidence, hypocrite. Now, just like I predicted, go ahead and excuse it as if it's nothing, which is precisely why I didn't offer it to you in the first place. Again, you are an irrational Jared Taylor hater and anti-white bigot. Again, no amount of evidence will ever be enough for you, because you are committed to the idea that you're right and AR is evil and deserves whatever it gets. Now go ahead and dismiss everything as mere hearsay. Go on.
joelthomaspeterson 4 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson You were right. I was going to dismiss it. You said it yourself, it is hearsay. You KNOW it is hearsay! No amount of evidence would be enough for me? Hell, that isn't enough for anyone! Except the folks who want to kiss Jared Taylor's ass. Like you.
NoPawn 3 months ago
@NoPawn: "You were right"
I know I am. And you're wrong. Once again.
joelthomaspeterson 3 months ago
@joelthomaspeterson Well, you're pretty crappy at showing where, that's for damn sure. You can't just make things be the way you want them to be. Sorry to burst your bubble.
NoPawn 3 months ago
Why can't we have more people like him who speak out the truth.
moonlightcrawler 8 months ago
@moonlightcrawler Because most other people prefer to speak whole truths, not half of one.
NoPawn 3 months ago
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Do you admire Philip Rushton YES OR FUCKING NO!! admit it.. YOU DO TAYLOR. phwahahahahaaa ahahahahaaaaa
Raybanmonster 8 months ago
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@Raybanmonster {Do you admire Philip Rushton YES OR FUCKING NO!! admit it.. YOU DO TAYLOR. }
Strange echos of "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the communist party?"
mindprism 6 months ago
I like your schpiel at the end of the video. As if stopping free speech is an accomplishment hahaha
darklord220 8 months ago 6
@darklord220 Oh, so you don't care about anyone else's freedoms, just his, eh? His freedom of speech was not denied. He ended up going somewhere that didn't have a problem with him - but then again they didn't know what he was using their place for. The hotels did, and they exercised their right to say no to him, just like they did this year. But in two days, he will be at the Council of Conservative Citizens Conference which isn't being stopped. We haven't tried to.
NoPawn 8 months ago