According to Jesus there is only one way. Jews, Pseudo Christians, Catholics,Muslims - All need to know this. (Acts 4:12 “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”(John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.(1Tim 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. Our choice! Believe or not. Eternal life or death.
@truthinjesus1 Christian here, nobody takes you seriously when you quote random scripture. You need to form a well articulated and open-minded argument if you want to plant the seeds of the LORD in them. Brothers like yourself are the reasons our non-believer brothers and sisters think we are ignorant and uneducated lacking the capacity for abstract thought.
faith under seige? Rubbish. An atheist would never say this since it would be 'wishful thinking'. We leave this to the religious. To call some a person of faith should be a slander. it says here is someone who is willing to believe anything on the basis of absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Credulous fools.
I am increasingly surprised by the reverence and respect that is given to the anti-religious tirades of Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris. Richard Dawkins book "The God Delusion" received good reviews from people who have never seriously studied the philosophy of religion or theology, but was received very badly by people who have (including non-believers). Dawkins' anti-religious rants are on an intellectual par with Brown's anti-Catholic diatribes in "The Da Vinci Code". Please be more serious!
@MandoMohan 'The Case for God?' has been abandoned? You are probably one of the many semi-educated people who have bought into the anti-religious tirades of Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris. The case for God has not been abandoned as there are innumerable philosophers of religion who think that God's existence is far more probable than not. Alvin Plantinga, Keith Ward, J Polkinghorne, Richard Swinburne, etc. I wonder if you have read any of their serious academic books? Or do you prefer mere rants?
Jews are very different indeed from Christians. I find their religious natures more mature and easy-going, more intellectual. Another thing I like about Jews is that they don't keep knocking on my door asking me if I want to become a Jew and how I'll go to Hell if I don't! In fact if you want to be accepted as a Jew it can be quite hard work; you have to prove you have Jewish family roots etc.
*dramatic voice* "Faith is under siege these days"
Siege?! People just ask "How do you know? Why do you believe that? Where do you get the authority from to tell people how to live their lives?" and demand that you provide an answer.
They're even asking politely.
Religion, meet modern society. This meeting was 2 millenia overdue anyway.
@JackyB92 So just because you use the words "to be fair", what you say is true? Where is the reasoning behind this? Why are they hardly intellectual heavyweights? By saying "to be fair" you place yourself in a position where it's presumed that you are somehow knowledgeable on the subject and people can just take your word for it. I take it you are not, otherwise you'd have taken the effort of typing one or two more sentences with a clarification of/bringing evidence of what you mean.
The Old Lady’s TORTOISE (Hinduism) and DRAGON (Taoism) are symbols for WAVE (energy), both are analog with MAGEN DAVID (Judaism). "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" is the metaphor, and also similar with allegory of rituals Thawaf circling around the Ka'ba and Sa’i oscillating along “the sinus” Marwah-Shafa during the Hajj pilgrimage (Abraham). YIN-YANG: energy-particle . CROSS (Christian) and SWASTIKA (Buddhism) are symbols for “Balance of Nature.”
What´s up with the metaphorical answers all the time. I sense a fear of saying what he really thinks and it is, "because scripture says so and no further discussion is gonna do anything to change it". how can you accept an answer like " Because it says so in the scripture", or "because god says it". @Cha4k comment spic :D
Forget that and everything else. I bet that blonde at 0.41 he checked out as he walked into the building was a religious experience all in it's own =)
Forget that and everythign else. I bet that blonde at 0.41 he checked out as he walked into teh building was a religious experience all in it's own =)
No, religion is not the repository of the wisdom of a population, the LAW is. Secular law is just that-the picking and mixing of what a population considers to be the good parts of its various religions and philosophies. The ideas and rituals of this pick-and-mix is enshrined in law so that everyone will know them, and they will be passed to our children.
Why doesn't this rabbi actually interview an atheist with a good argument? As an atheist, I found their arguments very poorly presented. It's so frustrating to watch, because it's SOO EASY to demolish religion.
The analogy of religion to a Mozart symphony or any other great work of art is a very poor one. A religious tradition, like Judaism, is something inherited from thousands of years of transformation and compromise. A piece of scripture, much less an entire "religious tradition" is not the work of an individual author with singular intentions. You need only to look at a single book of the bible to see examples of contradiction within the tradition, evidence of multiple authorship, and revision.
The analogy of religion to a Mozart symphony or any other great work of art is a very poor one. A religious tradition, like Judaism, is something inherited from thousands of years of transformation and compromise. A piece of scripture, much less an entire "religious tradition" is not the work of an individual author with singular intentions. You need only to look at a single book of the bible to see examples of contradiction within the tradition, evidence of multiple authorship, and revision.
The analogy of religion to a Mozart symphony or any other great work of art is a very poor one. A religious tradition, like Judaism, is something inherited from thousands of years of transformation and compromise. A piece of scripture, much less an entire "religious tradition" is not the work of an individual author with singular intentions. You need only to look at a single book of the bible to see examples of contradiction within the tradition, evidence of multiple authorship, and revision.
First guy was alrite. Why does God care what we eat, how or who we have sex with, what we do in life? This is supposedly an omnipetent, unfathomable being who created the entire universe, and cares with all our daily livings?
Being an atheist allows you to pick & choose. If you believe in the bible you can take good values such as love thy neighbour and turn the other cheek, but you also have to take more barbaric rituals such as homophobia, stoning, & sexism. The rabbi answer was nonsensicle.
Most religious prohibitions have ecological-economic reasons. Pigs require water and shady woods with seeds, but those conditions are scarce in Israel and the Middle East. They cannot forage grass like ruminants. Instead they compete with humans for expensive grain. Unlike many other forms of livestock, pigs are omnivorous scavengers, eating
2...virtually anything they come across, including carrion and refuse. This was deemed unclean, hence a Middle Eastern society keeping large stocks of pigs would destroy their ecosystem. A similar explanation lies behind why the cow is sacred in India. During times of drought prior to the monsoon a farmer would be tempted to eat his cows. But doing this would be disastrous as they are essential for the cultivation of land. So what started as an unofficial rule "don't eat your cows, don't raise
3..pigs", later gains an official status in the form of a religious decree. But for the logical individual, not eating a certain meat because the environment of the ancient Hebrews who wrote the Bible was not capable of effectively supporting pigs, is really rather bizarre.
alain de botton made no mention of 'The Golden Rule' the classical example of a belief shared by many theists of all religions and atheists or humanists. Or was this edited out?
"EACH (and every) year the BBC invites Lord Sacks to make a film on the anniversary of the Jewish New Year". The BBC should invite Richard Dawkins to make a film EACH year on the anniversary of Charles Darwins birth.
If I were to say that I was your savior and without me there wasn't salvation. And you might laugh at me. But if you don't except me into your heart god will disown you. Jesus isn't real but I am.
Think that the writers of getting over Sarah Marshall talked of heresisy when Sarah Marshall says to Russell Brand, acting as... Russell Brand when she says that having tattoos from world religions doesn't make a universal citizen but somewhat confused...
It's refreshing to see a peaceful moderate religious person (Jonathan Sacks), instead of the crazy furious human-torturing vandals that are so constantly televised. If this world were made up of these sorts of religious people that engage in civil dialogue and nonviolence, this world would be much better. Unfortunately, moderates open the door to fundamentalism by professing FAITH as a virtue, which is most certainly is NOT. Once you allow faith, you allow all sects of all religions to stand.
I like the idea that he takes responsibility for everyone as "they are all part of the script" Every one of us faces people who are different from us, who are outside our in-group, taking responsibility for your behavior towards the out-group is a noble effort. Something missing in many people's behavior.
we American muslims are ready to die for Islam!~Nonmuslims should not meddle with islam.All Infidels deserve to die and be killed!~islam rule the world!~shariah law is coming to USA!
This documentary is made from the rabbi's point of view, so is the bias. No CH.Hitchens or R.Dawkins can undo that bias. Alain made a strong argument that debunked religion as a whole. Glade to hear Alan saying to be an Atheïst.
@lemaafg Those khinzeers and koonies in Afghanistan, the Taliban are horrible people, and horrible muslims, it's bad for me to call them non muslims, because they may be muslim but they're very bad people, anyways these taliban are extremists and that is bad.
I think Howard more meant that religions are like heavy concept albums on which he enjoys some nice lyrics, guitar- or drumsolos, but the whole album isn't that mind blowing good.
Pseudo-intellectual douchebags will often place classical music in the background in a desperate attempt to seem more intelligent, not realizing that taste in music has nothing to do with intelligence.
Ok - Rabbi - but taking your musical analogy - you wouldn't try to mix Beethoven and Miles Davis willy nilly (that's not to say you could not blend them harmoniously) - but you wouldn't say only ONE of them represented true music.
it means nothing, but i couldn't help but notice that the music for this video is beethoven's piano concerto #3 in c minor [1st mov't]. beethoven was certainly not a believer. again, that means nothing, but i had to point it out.
by the way, i had a bacon sandwich for breakfast and then i coveted my neighbour's wife. . .
I like this vid. All my comments are the bit's I dissagree about which arn't many at this stage.
11:00 + I believe that is where the schism is - the fact that the Rabbi sees it as already perfect when perfect is only an unreachable goal to acheive higher standards. In other words, his standards have not developed higher & he expects that to be the case. I don't care for absolutes or I'd be an absolute cunt!
That was some hardcore criticism.. not. What bullshit. Did he hand pick these mild and clueless ass-holes to oppose him?
Catholic confession is not interesting or desirable, it's hideous and immoral. No 3rd party can take your wrong deeds away. The only real way to make mends is to try and make it right by the people who you have wronged.
But if you look at history and philosophical evolution as a pick and mix, you see the connection between confession and psychoanalysis/therapy. Let's not hate everything that was ever religious. Both religion and philosophy (which I define as the same except one claims a supernatural source and the other claims a human source) come from man, and they can influence one another. The good that is in humans is also often in religion.
To answer your charge of immorality specifically, often it is impossible to make amends to those you've wronged. Psychology kinda gives us the same options as religious confessional: admit what you've done; be accountable; make amends with good acts to other humans; forgive yourself (aka "God forgives you"). All the feelings religious people feel are real. Atheists just disagree with the source, saying it's not a god but the brain that gives feelings of rapture, ecstacy, peace, etc
@slipcurve Forget that and everything else. I bet that blonde at 0.41 he checked out as he walked into the building was a religious experience all in it's own =)
It seems like he took the most indecisive and meaningless bits of each of his debates and edited them together, that or these opponents of his are just really bad at making a point.
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He should have tried Christopher Hitchens (if only his health was better at the moment). In a single eloquent statement Hitchens can put to rest any nonsensical "argument" for religion, which inevitably forces the debater to change subject -- god forbid a religious person ever admits they were wrong.
Judaism it's all about traditions... my Jews friends never fail to remind me that. The funny things is that many are not religious or agnostic, but still cannot manage to let go of their faith.
According to Jesus there is only one way. Jews, Pseudo Christians, Catholics,Muslims - All need to know this. (Acts 4:12 “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”(John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.(1Tim 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. Our choice! Believe or not. Eternal life or death.
truthinjesus1 1 week ago
@truthinjesus1 Christian here, nobody takes you seriously when you quote random scripture. You need to form a well articulated and open-minded argument if you want to plant the seeds of the LORD in them. Brothers like yourself are the reasons our non-believer brothers and sisters think we are ignorant and uneducated lacking the capacity for abstract thought.
MrOrange121 2 days ago
We in islam we don't get bored listening to the same verses for weeks!
Indeed The Holy Quraan contains the things we seek to know in this life,
it is intrepreting all of whats happening in the real life..
Evidence, each friday, Muslims are advised to read Surat AlKahf
each time we read it, we feel we wanna repeat it, because it discuss 4 major things we face
in life...
And pls know that, with Islam there are no mystery... all explained in Holy Quraan...
MrAbdelrahman444 1 week ago
faith under seige? Rubbish. An atheist would never say this since it would be 'wishful thinking'. We leave this to the religious. To call some a person of faith should be a slander. it says here is someone who is willing to believe anything on the basis of absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Credulous fools.
elgar104 3 weeks ago
I am increasingly surprised by the reverence and respect that is given to the anti-religious tirades of Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris. Richard Dawkins book "The God Delusion" received good reviews from people who have never seriously studied the philosophy of religion or theology, but was received very badly by people who have (including non-believers). Dawkins' anti-religious rants are on an intellectual par with Brown's anti-Catholic diatribes in "The Da Vinci Code". Please be more serious!
bayreuth79 1 month ago
when the guy says the devil is in the detail the jew get really upset 03:09
akaoshi1 1 month ago
This is humanistic backslapping and not a debate, 'The Case For God?', has been abandoned.
MandoMohan 1 month ago
@MandoMohan 'The Case for God?' has been abandoned? You are probably one of the many semi-educated people who have bought into the anti-religious tirades of Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris. The case for God has not been abandoned as there are innumerable philosophers of religion who think that God's existence is far more probable than not. Alvin Plantinga, Keith Ward, J Polkinghorne, Richard Swinburne, etc. I wonder if you have read any of their serious academic books? Or do you prefer mere rants?
bayreuth79 1 month ago
Jews are very different indeed from Christians. I find their religious natures more mature and easy-going, more intellectual. Another thing I like about Jews is that they don't keep knocking on my door asking me if I want to become a Jew and how I'll go to Hell if I don't! In fact if you want to be accepted as a Jew it can be quite hard work; you have to prove you have Jewish family roots etc.
benthejrporter 1 month ago
*dramatic voice* "Faith is under siege these days"
Siege?! People just ask "How do you know? Why do you believe that? Where do you get the authority from to tell people how to live their lives?" and demand that you provide an answer.
They're even asking politely.
Religion, meet modern society. This meeting was 2 millenia overdue anyway.
Under siege, my arse.
GreyLabyrinthine 2 months ago
That ball head dude is soooo stoned!!!! LOL!
RicoAbdulProject 3 months ago
Religion is obviously BS. This clip makes it evident to me.
userek69 3 months ago 2
@FaithFightsFact To be fair, Hitchens and Dawkins are hardly intellectual heavyweights.
JackyB92 4 months ago
@JackyB92 So just because you use the words "to be fair", what you say is true? Where is the reasoning behind this? Why are they hardly intellectual heavyweights? By saying "to be fair" you place yourself in a position where it's presumed that you are somehow knowledgeable on the subject and people can just take your word for it. I take it you are not, otherwise you'd have taken the effort of typing one or two more sentences with a clarification of/bringing evidence of what you mean.
Krommak 2 months ago
It's funny how he says having a relationship with god requires praying each day. It his own ego that he thinks is god.
endthedisease 5 months ago
Faith is not a virtue.
Yaarrr 6 months ago
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The Old Lady’s TORTOISE (Hinduism) and DRAGON (Taoism) are symbols for WAVE (energy), both are analog with MAGEN DAVID (Judaism). "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" is the metaphor, and also similar with allegory of rituals Thawaf circling around the Ka'ba and Sa’i oscillating along “the sinus” Marwah-Shafa during the Hajj pilgrimage (Abraham). YIN-YANG: energy-particle . CROSS (Christian) and SWASTIKA (Buddhism) are symbols for “Balance of Nature.”
TatoSugiarto 6 months ago
What´s up with the metaphorical answers all the time. I sense a fear of saying what he really thinks and it is, "because scripture says so and no further discussion is gonna do anything to change it". how can you accept an answer like " Because it says so in the scripture", or "because god says it". @Cha4k comment spic :D
Yevhen123 7 months ago
ridiculous debates
darkmatrix80 10 months ago
I like the part where they all got in a circle and wanked each other
Cha4k 10 months ago
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Forget that and everything else. I bet that blonde at 0.41 he checked out as he walked into the building was a religious experience all in it's own =)
NAGANUGE 11 months ago
Forget that and everythign else. I bet that blonde at 0.41 he checked out as he walked into teh building was a religious experience all in it's own =)
NAGANUGE 11 months ago
@NAGANUGE i tried so hard not to laugh...!
funkybij1 10 months ago
@NAGANUGE Nice catch.
Yevhen123 7 months ago
Who are those four bums?
The guests should have been:
Richard Dawkins
Christopher Hitchens
Sam Harris
And the icing on the cake, Morrissey
TheStrangerInTheRye 11 months ago 2
@TheStrangerInTheRye Christopher Hitchens would have made him run away crying.
Yevhen123 7 months ago 3
No, religion is not the repository of the wisdom of a population, the LAW is. Secular law is just that-the picking and mixing of what a population considers to be the good parts of its various religions and philosophies. The ideas and rituals of this pick-and-mix is enshrined in law so that everyone will know them, and they will be passed to our children.
rstdot 1 year ago 2
Give me five minutes with these idiots, and I will them how it is. This god only lives in their imagination. please get real..!!
TheBinary123 1 year ago
3:09 - hilarious facial reaction
robopoet 1 year ago
Biggest critics of religion? Where are Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris, and Dennett? The names we know and love?
MikeEmery9 1 year ago
Why doesn't this rabbi actually interview an atheist with a good argument? As an atheist, I found their arguments very poorly presented. It's so frustrating to watch, because it's SOO EASY to demolish religion.
Tibberclaw 1 year ago
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The analogy of religion to a Mozart symphony or any other great work of art is a very poor one. A religious tradition, like Judaism, is something inherited from thousands of years of transformation and compromise. A piece of scripture, much less an entire "religious tradition" is not the work of an individual author with singular intentions. You need only to look at a single book of the bible to see examples of contradiction within the tradition, evidence of multiple authorship, and revision.
justinwesleyhenry 1 year ago
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The analogy of religion to a Mozart symphony or any other great work of art is a very poor one. A religious tradition, like Judaism, is something inherited from thousands of years of transformation and compromise. A piece of scripture, much less an entire "religious tradition" is not the work of an individual author with singular intentions. You need only to look at a single book of the bible to see examples of contradiction within the tradition, evidence of multiple authorship, and revision.
justinwesleyhenry 1 year ago
The analogy of religion to a Mozart symphony or any other great work of art is a very poor one. A religious tradition, like Judaism, is something inherited from thousands of years of transformation and compromise. A piece of scripture, much less an entire "religious tradition" is not the work of an individual author with singular intentions. You need only to look at a single book of the bible to see examples of contradiction within the tradition, evidence of multiple authorship, and revision.
justinwesleyhenry 1 year ago
First guy was alrite. Why does God care what we eat, how or who we have sex with, what we do in life? This is supposedly an omnipetent, unfathomable being who created the entire universe, and cares with all our daily livings?
Being an atheist allows you to pick & choose. If you believe in the bible you can take good values such as love thy neighbour and turn the other cheek, but you also have to take more barbaric rituals such as homophobia, stoning, & sexism. The rabbi answer was nonsensicle.
Chimpdaddy 1 year ago
"Faith is the courage to live in uncertainty." How immensely ironic.
internisus 1 year ago
Fuck this shit, it's not challenging his faith it's challenging my paitence
shandcunt 1 year ago 2
lol that guy looks bald at 35
skritzo 1 year ago
Where are the heavy hitters of atheism?
streetography 1 year ago
Most religious prohibitions have ecological-economic reasons. Pigs require water and shady woods with seeds, but those conditions are scarce in Israel and the Middle East. They cannot forage grass like ruminants. Instead they compete with humans for expensive grain. Unlike many other forms of livestock, pigs are omnivorous scavengers, eating
pmallon64 1 year ago
2...virtually anything they come across, including carrion and refuse. This was deemed unclean, hence a Middle Eastern society keeping large stocks of pigs would destroy their ecosystem. A similar explanation lies behind why the cow is sacred in India. During times of drought prior to the monsoon a farmer would be tempted to eat his cows. But doing this would be disastrous as they are essential for the cultivation of land. So what started as an unofficial rule "don't eat your cows, don't raise
pmallon64 1 year ago
3..pigs", later gains an official status in the form of a religious decree. But for the logical individual, not eating a certain meat because the environment of the ancient Hebrews who wrote the Bible was not capable of effectively supporting pigs, is really rather bizarre.
pmallon64 1 year ago
This is crap. I think most of the commentators agree here.
hpholland 1 year ago
religion is wishful thinking
zaqmlp1234 1 year ago
alain de botton made no mention of 'The Golden Rule' the classical example of a belief shared by many theists of all religions and atheists or humanists. Or was this edited out?
crabsallover 1 year ago
"EACH (and every) year the BBC invites Lord Sacks to make a film on the anniversary of the Jewish New Year". The BBC should invite Richard Dawkins to make a film EACH year on the anniversary of Charles Darwins birth.
crabsallover 1 year ago 2
@crabsallover well said!
Etcher 1 year ago
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If I were to say that I was your savior and without me there wasn't salvation. And you might laugh at me. But if you don't except me into your heart god will disown you. Jesus isn't real but I am.
Only through me can you attain heaven.
jfeltes 1 year ago
Seriously...all four of those people have poor reasons to be atheist.
Human suffering? WTF?
The only proper reason to be atheist is lack of evidence for the silly concept of god. It's that simple.
goonodeath 1 year ago 3
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@goonodeath
where did the matter for big bang came from? :P !!
q.no.2: if energy can neither be created nor destroyed: where did the energy itself came from?
thegreatestdebates 1 year ago
Think that the writers of getting over Sarah Marshall talked of heresisy when Sarah Marshall says to Russell Brand, acting as... Russell Brand when she says that having tattoos from world religions doesn't make a universal citizen but somewhat confused...
DeborahFRothenberg 1 year ago
These were the cleverest and most engaging atheists he could find?
Suzahi 1 year ago 4
Maybe Hitchens and Dawkins did not want to be interviewed,
UltimateSerge 1 year ago
It's refreshing to see a peaceful moderate religious person (Jonathan Sacks), instead of the crazy furious human-torturing vandals that are so constantly televised. If this world were made up of these sorts of religious people that engage in civil dialogue and nonviolence, this world would be much better. Unfortunately, moderates open the door to fundamentalism by professing FAITH as a virtue, which is most certainly is NOT. Once you allow faith, you allow all sects of all religions to stand.
coil311 1 year ago 4
I like the idea that he takes responsibility for everyone as "they are all part of the script" Every one of us faces people who are different from us, who are outside our in-group, taking responsibility for your behavior towards the out-group is a noble effort. Something missing in many people's behavior.
wrinkleypp 1 year ago
@MRaverz Hah, I was thinking the same thing.
GodofCider 1 year ago
No Dawkins
hognip 1 year ago
"Britain's top critics of religion..."? No Dawkins? No Dennette? WTF
chestbuster1987 1 year ago 6
@chestbuster1987 Dennet is American.
philobiology 1 year ago
How you can manage to gather a more mediocre bunch of skeptics baffles me.
ubermons 1 year ago
we American muslims are ready to die for Islam!~Nonmuslims should not meddle with islam.All Infidels deserve to die and be killed!~islam rule the world!~shariah law is coming to USA!
samgee2007 1 year ago
This documentary is made from the rabbi's point of view, so is the bias. No CH.Hitchens or R.Dawkins can undo that bias. Alain made a strong argument that debunked religion as a whole. Glade to hear Alan saying to be an Atheïst.
MexxPowers 1 year ago
my problem with all religions is ;
it gaves you wrong comfort
it stops you for searching for real answer to hard questions
it devides us as one single humanity family
stops you for finding out the real state of nature and life and univers as it is
it makes you hostage to a set of beliefs and rules which no one dares to change or chalange
all this leads to wrong decesion making to solve real problems of our world
regards
ex musli atheist from afghanistan
lemaafg 1 year ago 4
@lemaafg ex muslim from afghanistan????
dude....please tell me whats its like there.......because so far ive never met anyone from there........
how did you lose your faith? peace mate.... : )
azmanabdula 1 year ago
@lemaafg Those khinzeers and koonies in Afghanistan, the Taliban are horrible people, and horrible muslims, it's bad for me to call them non muslims, because they may be muslim but they're very bad people, anyways these taliban are extremists and that is bad.
edwardjr1836 1 year ago
Leading critics? So where's Dawkins or Hitchens?
Gameon1979 1 year ago 13
Snore... Should have got the four horsemen.
spikebarnett 1 year ago 2
The twitching the Rabbi makes at 3:09 - does he not look like he is trying to refrain from showing fury, especially considering the previous comment?
1RadicalOne 1 year ago 2
I think Howard more meant that religions are like heavy concept albums on which he enjoys some nice lyrics, guitar- or drumsolos, but the whole album isn't that mind blowing good.
loekskywalker 1 year ago
Pseudo-intellectual douchebags will often place classical music in the background in a desperate attempt to seem more intelligent, not realizing that taste in music has nothing to do with intelligence.
Phelan666 1 year ago
Where is Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens when you need them.
armarjaleo 1 year ago 10
@armarjaleo No critical thought allowed.
Phelan666 1 year ago
Yes, it has been expelled.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
snnooozzeee
NegativeNick 1 year ago 2
Ok - Rabbi - but taking your musical analogy - you wouldn't try to mix Beethoven and Miles Davis willy nilly (that's not to say you could not blend them harmoniously) - but you wouldn't say only ONE of them represented true music.
argusceo 1 year ago
it means nothing, but i couldn't help but notice that the music for this video is beethoven's piano concerto #3 in c minor [1st mov't]. beethoven was certainly not a believer. again, that means nothing, but i had to point it out.
by the way, i had a bacon sandwich for breakfast and then i coveted my neighbour's wife. . .
mrgeniusontv 1 year ago
I like this vid. All my comments are the bit's I dissagree about which arn't many at this stage.
11:00 + I believe that is where the schism is - the fact that the Rabbi sees it as already perfect when perfect is only an unreachable goal to acheive higher standards. In other words, his standards have not developed higher & he expects that to be the case. I don't care for absolutes or I'd be an absolute cunt!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
Putting your faith on the line, my ass. Get the four horsemen in there.
Blingy98 1 year ago 4
@Blingy98 Agreed. Four pretty tame atheists, if the truth be told. The only thing he put on the line was his credibility.
aido92 1 year ago
Nietzsche was right...
3LARI 1 year ago
He keeps using false analogies.
LikeAPossum 1 year ago
That was some hardcore criticism.. not. What bullshit. Did he hand pick these mild and clueless ass-holes to oppose him?
Catholic confession is not interesting or desirable, it's hideous and immoral. No 3rd party can take your wrong deeds away. The only real way to make mends is to try and make it right by the people who you have wronged.
Hitchens would have torn this guy a new ass-hole.
slipcurve 1 year ago 35
@slipcurve good point , catholic confession i immoral , thanks slipcurve for the comment
panzerster 1 year ago
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@slipcurve good point , catholic confession is immoral , thanks slipcurve for the comment
panzerster 1 year ago
@slipcurve
But if you look at history and philosophical evolution as a pick and mix, you see the connection between confession and psychoanalysis/therapy. Let's not hate everything that was ever religious. Both religion and philosophy (which I define as the same except one claims a supernatural source and the other claims a human source) come from man, and they can influence one another. The good that is in humans is also often in religion.
rstdot 1 year ago
@slipcurve
To answer your charge of immorality specifically, often it is impossible to make amends to those you've wronged. Psychology kinda gives us the same options as religious confessional: admit what you've done; be accountable; make amends with good acts to other humans; forgive yourself (aka "God forgives you"). All the feelings religious people feel are real. Atheists just disagree with the source, saying it's not a god but the brain that gives feelings of rapture, ecstacy, peace, etc
rstdot 1 year ago
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@slipcurve Forget that and everything else. I bet that blonde at 0.41 he checked out as he walked into the building was a religious experience all in it's own =)
NAGANUGE 11 months ago
It seems like he took the most indecisive and meaningless bits of each of his debates and edited them together, that or these opponents of his are just really bad at making a point.
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He should have tried Christopher Hitchens (if only his health was better at the moment). In a single eloquent statement Hitchens can put to rest any nonsensical "argument" for religion, which inevitably forces the debater to change subject -- god forbid a religious person ever admits they were wrong.
RaminHAL9001 1 year ago
do they even care about truth?
waksibra 1 year ago 3
fucking disshonest anti-intellectual assholes!!!
waksibra 1 year ago 2
Like watching a man who never learned how stop playing "pretend".
philhellenes 1 year ago 22
@philhellenes Where's God?..... PEEKABOO! THERE HE IS!!!
3LARI 1 year ago
Just after ten minutes, he suggests that the concept of a "mash-up" is a mess. He doesn't get out much.
TheOtherSide100 1 year ago 2
No Dawkins? No Harris? Not even Grayling? Why bother watching?
goldragon988 1 year ago
@goldragon988 Part 2 with Colin Blakemore is sort of worth watching. He's a brilliant man, but you can tell they've cut much of the interview out.
Therion63 1 year ago
Judaism it's all about traditions... my Jews friends never fail to remind me that. The funny things is that many are not religious or agnostic, but still cannot manage to let go of their faith.
bersa888 1 year ago
@bersa888 : The point of religion is that there is no point, only faith and profound delusion.
bersa888 1 year ago 2
Nice trick Rabbi, to equate the non existence of God with despair. But we've caught you in the act, false dichotomy, one down for you.
grebrim 1 year ago 4