#1 HELL (#1 of 2)

[awakeningaletheia]

People smile and clap. Smugly condemning most of the human race, if they thought that they would be damned to eternal flames they would not be so happy. What a loveless crowd. Jesus would weep again as he did outside the tomb of Lazarus, if he could see this. This man does not understand anything that he is talking about. God's word declares nothing about Hell, study the Greek and Hebrew and you will understand. I want to cry watching this, he is not outdated, he is simply sadistic.

[VASINGER]

@awakeningaletheia Hell is a real place, and Jesus spoke about it many times. Read the Gospels, please.

[awakeningaletheia]

@VASINGER I have many times. 

[awakeningaletheia]

@VASINGER There is only Gehenna and Hades, no such place as hell. One's a valley and one is the realm of the dead.This old preacher quotes a fallible English translation saying that it is the word of God and the sheep nod and swallow down his sick tradition. God will judge his teachers stricter so they are meant to have studied the scriptures, yet they teach the teachings of demons and the tickling ears of man listen intently. Even if hell was real what sick people would clap for its existence?

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia So then what does God do with the unredeemed?

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted They are correctively punished just as Jesus said they would be in Matthew 25:46. These will go away into the correction of the ages, but the righteous into the life of the ages. The word for eternal is 'aionios' and probably means something closer to age-abiding.

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia Punished for what? You teach that Christ has already paid for all men's sins so what are they being "punished" for? Hebrews 1, 9, & 10 all say that Christ has made perfection for ALL sins for all time, so according to you His work was insufficient.

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.(1 John 1:8). Indeed the verse before says that Christ cleanses us from sin, but I thought he had paid the price for all sins? Christ's atonement has accomplished every promise of God, we simply do not yet see it. "Now in putting everything in subjection to him, he left nothing outside his control. But at present, we do not see everything in subjection to him." (Heb 2:8).

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia Well that's a lovely misuse of 1 John given that it was written in opposition to gnosticism which denies the sinful nature altogether. The way you intrepet that passage, you make forgiveness contingent upon confession so that if a person may die without confessing a sin will be subject to punishment. This is wrong because Hebrews 9:28 says "for Christ also having been offered ONCE to bear the sins of MANY will appear a second time WITHOUT REFERENCE TO SIN".

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted I am not misusing 1 John I simply quoted him. I did not say one must confess to not be punished, you said that. Also I did not write Isaiah 26, if you have a problem with his use of words then talk to him. While your at it ask Paul about this one, "All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful... yet afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness."(Heb 12:11). Tell me how I abuse the words "all" and "world"? Also:Everyone will be salted with fire (Mark 9:49)

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia Yes you are misusing it. Are you saying that forgiveness of every sin is contingent on verbal confession?

Now you're misusing Mark 9 because I guess according to you "eveyone" gets tossed into the Lake of Fire.

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted According to Jesus everyone will be salted with fire, I do not misuse it because I simply quote it. As one translation puts it, "purified with fire". Tell me one place that universalist's misuse the words 'all' and 'world'. I don't want a general statement about how much we misuse the words, I want a quote from scripture and your 'correct' understanding of it.

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia So then why do only SOME people get cast into the lake of fire?

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia Nope, 1 Cor, 3 is talking about believers building on the foundation of Christ. NOWHERE does it say anything about the Lake of Fire.

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia See the biggest reason that uni's are biblically and willfully ignorant is that the do not comprehend what "context" means. They play Mr. Potato Head with bible verses. For example whenever the bible uses words like "all", the reader should ask "all what?" The passage will tell you what "all" it is talking about or what kind of "all" is being used.

Let me ask you, is the love of money the root of "all" evil?

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted I understand context, my question is do you? When scripture is plain about what "kind" of "all" we are talking about then we can easily understand the purpose of the writer. Yet again I ask, show me one verse we misuse "all" and "world" in? "The love of money is the root of all evils" is a literal translation, but as the NIV, ESV, and NASB, say the love of money is the root of all "kinds" or "sorts" of evils. So your point?

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia The point is that the words "all" and "world" have limited or specific meanings. For example, you people misuse Col.1:20 to say that "all things" will be reconciled to God. Well, I can name something that won't be reconciled and that is fallen angels.

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted Does the context say that fallen angels will not be reconciled? Where does scripture say that fallen angels will not be reconciled? Did not Jesus make all things, whether in heaven or on earth? 

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia Hebrews 2 makes it clear that God has not provided for the angels. Also, sins will not be reconciled to God. So what this indicates is that the "all things" has limited meaning.

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted Christ came to save the world (John 3:17), he is the Lamb that takes away the sin of the world (John 1:29). So what exactly am I missing here? Jesus decided to pray once for his disciples exclusively, therefore his atonement had nothing to do with the world? Also Hebrews 2:16 is literally talking about them being delivered from "the fear of death" which does not "take hold of"(what the Greek literally means, not "help") angels, but takes hold of the seed of Abraham.

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia See that? Fingers planted firmly in ears and then recite textbook verses out of context.

See, the WHOLE context of Hebrews 2 is talking about Christ becoming a man to die for men and the fact that He did NOT become like the angels nor die for them.

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted God loved the world in this way, that he sent his son. It is an action of love, not a love for the world and the things it does. The world is corrupt, we are not to love the world, because then we will hate the Father, yet we are to love our enemies and all people. Hate the world (systems and corruption) but love the peoples. Even if the world can mean two things, how do you know which he is talking about in John 1:29 and 1 John 2:15 or even in 1 John 2:2 for that matter?

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia Yea, way to leave out the rest of the contextual information. God loved the world in this way, that He gave His onlt Son so that (here's the clincher) SO THAT EVERYONE BELIEVING would not perish but have evrlasting life. Now Jesus was not excluding the world's system in John 17, He was excluding people ie, those whom the Father had nor given Him.

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia Now Jesus saves the "world" because God so loved the "world" but then the Lord said that whoever loves "the world", the love of the Father is not in him". (1John2:15)

So here is a small example of the "world" having different meanings. Plus, when you see the definitions for Kosmos, there are several.

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia Perhaps you can explain why Jesus (if He came for every single person without exception) deliberately excluded "the world" from His prayer in John 17?

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted Jesus died for the world, he doesn't need to pray for it as well. The whole chapter 17 is about his 12 disciples and the ones who would come through their proclamation. Its an exclusive prayer, sure, by why does that need to exclude the whole world from salvation? Hebrews 2 is talking about Christ coming in the flesh sure, but again he doesn't need to help angels in regards to 'fear of death' only sin.

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia See this is where the disconnects and the logical obsurdities happen with you people. See there's no point in dividing the human race into two groups as the word of God always does ie believers and unbelievers. If Jesus was going to save everyone then it makes zdero sense for Him to pray to the Father

"I do not pray for the worlds system but I pray for those who you have given me out of the world's system."

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia You really have to do a lot of rediculous acrobatics to get the bible to not say what it plainly says. In other words, if God had ever intended for every person without exception to be saved then there's really no point in having a group of people who are written in the book of life and a group who is not. The bible would say "and everyone's name was written in the book of life and everyone entered the kingdom, blah, blah, blah"

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted You Calvinist's are broken records, you love being the "chosen ones" but can't stand the thought that you aren't the "only ones". Why did God elect Abraham? So that through him he might bless "all nations" and " all families"(Gen 12:3&22:18). They were to be a royal priesthood for the nations, a connection between the gentiles and God (Ex 19:6). Peter makes this same connection when he says that we are a royal priesthood. God will bless all through his chosen people(us).

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia Being a calvinist has zip to do with proper biblical exegesis, that just happens to be the logical conclusion for people that submit to the scriptuires rather than the other way around. See the easiest way to figure it all out nis to go to the end of the book. Only a willfully ignorant person would deny that after the clear teaching that the wicked are cast into the lake of fire, from there after theree is not a single mention of them ever coming back out.

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia And to RE-state, you skated right on by the fact that Jesus excluded the world (people) and in contrast only prayed for those whom the Father had given Him.

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted Why does it matter who he prayed for? He died for not only us, but for the whole world (1 John 2:2). Please O please tell me how I am quoting 1 John 2:2 outta context? I ask the question before you state the accusation because again you guys are predictable. I have heard time and time again that I quote 1 John 2:2 out of context, but nobody ever tells me how. Also 1 Corinthians 15 is the end of the story, not Revelation 22.

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia It matters greatly who Jesus prayed for because "the world" is in contrast to those whom the Father has given Him. Now if the Father has given "every single person without exception" then praying such a prayer is irrelevant. That would make as much sense as saying "only people who are alive and breathing can attend my party".

This of course segues into the fact that if everyone is saved then why isn't everyone's name written in the book of life?

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted At the end of Revelation 22, there is still

a. Rulers and Authorities

b. The second death

c. Christ reigning

Yet at the end of 1 Corinthians 15 verses 20-28

a. Rulers and Authorities are no more

b. Death is abolished

c. Christ is subject to God

Therefore 1 Corinthians 15 is further along than Revelation 22.

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia So again I'll remind you that since the word explicitly says that the wicked are cast into the Lake of fire (even though they're supposedly forgiven) there is not one explicit mention of them ever coming back out. In addition, the wicked are referred to as such (murderers, dogs, immoral, etc) even though they're again supposedly forgiven yet they bear these titles, yet Paul referred to those in Corinth as "former" (1 Cor.6)

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia So this segues into your misuse of 1John 2 by saying that Jesus is the savior of "the whole world" meaning "every single person without exception". First of all, much of what is written in this epistle is a refutation of Gnosticism which denied the imputation of sin and claimed exclusivity via "secret knowledge". Second, there are other passages using "world" that in fact only have a limited application...

[UniversalismRefuted]

@UniversalismRefuted I have already pointed to one use of the word "world" in John 17 and again, NO it says nothing about any "system". it is talking about people.

1John 5:19 says that "We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one."

So then following your logic this passage would include John himself making his own statement and epistle to be subject to the "sway of the wicked one".

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia You see, Christ came to save His people...His sheep. Jesus even verbally excluded "the world" from His prayer and only prayed for those whom the Father gave Him (as mentioned in John 6) and also for those who would believe later (John 17). Doesn't sound like He had universalism on His mind at all.

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia I'll tell you why you misuse "all" and "world" as every universalist does. Most often those words as they're used in the NT have limited connotation, meaning that "all" is usually pertaining to a particular group as is "world".

[awakeningaletheia]

@UniversalismRefuted You think Jesus came to save us from judgment, he didn't. All will one day be judged. We are punished to be broken then salvation may be accepted by the sinner. Isaiah says, "When you judgments are in the earth then the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. If the wicked is shown grace he does not learn righteousness. (Isaiah 26:9-10). God knows to extend grace to the humble and oppose the proud. "God chastens (correctively punishes) those he loves". (Heb 12:6)

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia Next that gross abuse of Is.26...First of all, righteousness is IMPUTED not "learned". You don't take a course in "Righteousness101", it is imputed (Rom/4 & 5 by the finished work of Christ to His children.

Notice how Heb.12:6 states that God "corrects" those whom He loves? Of course uni's like to think that the biblr teaches that God loves all men equally. Why? Because they abuse words like "world" and "all".

[UniversalismRefuted]

@awakeningaletheia See, if we follow your line of thinking then why doesn't every single person without exception get thrown into the fire?

[7pentecostal7]

Aman

[rabbie1121]

To think that we laugh at the Muslims!

[imremogheri]

@rabbie1121 ...laugh now...will cry then...have fun

[MWHHolcomb]

Hell is a taboo topic only to weak and carnal church goers. God always has and always will confirm with revival fire the biblical warning of "eternal punishment" as taught by Christ Jesus Himself.

[boxerfan2]

america needs this kind of preaching back.today we have sissy preachers like olsteen and t.b.n.

[mcmiraclevalley]

I was in this service @ Miracle Valley Assembly in MV, AZ and singing in the MV Choir on front row. Rev. Jerry Bernard is a wonderful Holiness preacher. People who dont believe will when on fire. Miracle Valley was powerful and very anointed of God:

Rev. Michael Capps, Ph.D

Miracle Valley, AZ:

[Philos2006]

:Hell" is pure nonsense, even from a religious point of view.

[ONENIGGER2ANOTHER]

Blind leading the Blind!!

Another child of Jezebel preaching the serpents' doctrine.

The pride he demonstrates when confirming that millions will suffer eternally in literal flames is sickening!!

[ONENIGGER2ANOTHER]

Another one of Jezebels children preaching the doctrines of devils.

His pride in proclaiming that millions will suffer horrendously for eternity is sickening. This trash makes the work of Reconciliation void and Christ death in vain.

[ONENIGGER2ANOTHER]

This jackass like most fundamentalist has absolutely no background in semantics or root language translations.

Anyone who does knows that the 1st century church did not advocate this doctrine which was brought in by the catholics 200+ yeras after Christ.

Revelations was written in 97AD.

[MarylandJuly89]

If only we had Pastors and ministries like this today. People who stand up to the atrocities of lies against the word of God.

[candyl13]

Jerry is still preaching he lives in Florida now

[submersed2]

does he have any sermons available

[elephantear1]

This is the way the truth and the light. This is the way the bible teaches it! I have not heard a sermon like this in quiet a while, but this man is really preaching.

[aethiops007]

I thank GOD for HELL!!!

[MrBrianDean]

I love truth!

[9robo]

He was my pastor at christian faith center in san diego, in 1990's

[submersed2]

do you know where i can find his sermons on cd esp this one on hell