Some of you may be thrilled to know the follow up to 'Ain't Seen Ruthin Yet' will be live in a 10 days or so, featuring the rather dreamy, 'Ruthin Compares To You' - again deliberately mispronounced for the entertainment of the masses. Also, stand by those of you from Risca, Aberpennar, Mold, Abercynon, Bedwas, Betws, Prestatyn, Abercrave and Usk...!
@DavidGarlandJones I've got no problems with your videos David. You certainly have a talent for parodies, I just feel your songs would be better if you didn't crowbar in a mispronounciation just to make it fit. Also, you haven't misspelled Ruthin, you've mispronounced it.
Unfortunately, it's pronounce "rith-in" not ruth (as in rush)-in... Doesn't scan so well, but there you go. Love it, will share with people from Bryneglwys (over the hill from Rhuthun).
What about Caernarfon then David? have you been there? but I must warn you in advance that BANGOR Gwynedd is the closest train station to go there, even though there is a Welsh Highland Railway there though...:-)
@DavidGarlandJones there's a joke about Wrexham in which someone mishears that the next act on at a gig is "country and western" then reports back to their friend that next on is "some c**t from Wrexham" (Being originally from Wrexham I can laugh at that.....some wouldn't)
@klootme What about Caernarfon then David? have you been there? but I must warn you in advance that BANGOR Gwynedd is the closest train station to go there, even though there is a Welsh Highland Railway there though...:-)
I'm from Ruthin I love this video it's great fun and has made me smile. I also love all the sad debate about the pronounciation, does it really matter?... Anyway, now that you have gained such fame from this lovely little town don't you think you should come and visit, you owe us at least that?
It's a good spoof, and good publicity for Rhuthun. But just been reading the posts about pronunciation - it's not suprising that some people pronounce it ruthin (rhyming with nuthin) but it IS suprising that when welsh speakers point out that it's incorrect, they still maintain they're right. Surely the correct way to pronounce a name is always in its own language? If outsiders pronounced places like Gloucester and Leominster how they're written, would the 'ruthin' brigade's stance be the same?
Ha Ha! Fancy seeing you here Gerald ... been posting this on FaceBook (It's Phil From Maes Garmon)
Nice one David BTW ... I'm spreading the word ... I reckon "Stuck in the middle of Crewe" if you're on a railway theme would be good :) Maybe without the ear cutting bit
Can't believe the ridiculous debate about how it's pronounced David's is absolutely correct because 1. If you were English and had never heard it before you would say rUthin 2 it rhymes with nOthin wheras nIthin clearly doesnt
@DavidGarlandJones A better last line would be "It's near St Mary Hill." Couldn't believe me eyes when I saw a sign for Ruthin in the middle of the Vale. Thought I'd gone all Tardis...
I`ve lived in Ruthin for 6 years and have never heard it pronounced ` Rithin `. Mind you I`m from Liverpool and really Liverpool should be pronounced, ` Lyverpool `, as in the Liver birds., so what do I know ? According to the spell checker, both `Ruthin` and ` Rhuthin` are wrong, so there !
@hairyarse Yes, it was Beeching that did for the railway in Ruthin, though a landslide closed the line to Corwen back in the 50s. I think the station actually closed in '63, not '62 as David has it - I can just about remember a steam loco in the station yard, and I don't remember '62!
@arwelp According to page 202 of RJ Butts', 'Directory of Railway Stations: Details Every Public And Private Passenger Station, Halt, Platform And Stopping Place, Past And Present (1st ed.). Sparkford: Patrick Stephens Ltd. ISBN 1-8526-0508-1. OCLC 60251199, Ruthin Station closed on the 30th April 1962. However, it could well be that there continued to be some freight and industrial train traffic into 1963. Hope this clears things up, station spotters!
@blodynbillie WHAT!? I've made it into the local press?? Oh no, did you mean David and his song? I lived in Ruthin once...ah the memories...well I have one memory... I was very young.
@blodynbillie I may organise a charabanc outing from South Wales to Ruthin later this year for a pub crawl and maybe a couple of impromptu renditions of my 'hit'.
@ SnoopyDoggz99 Yo! Where iz you mun? Not still out with iwz friends? Or you 'aving a bit of kip before goin' back to iwz day job, like? 'Scuse the pronooooounciation, like. Missing you already. Mwaa!
@snoopdogg99 I'm not sure how many times you've clicked on ths video Mr Dogg but you've certainly provided at least 20 of the 19425 hits to date. Your dedication to our cause and your contribution to our success has to be noted. Thank you!
There IS a young(?) legend called Jones Makes me laugh 'til I rattle my bones He performed a fun song But pronounced Ruthin wrong Cue You Tubers' repetitive moans Just relax, chill out and enjoy His intention wasn't to annoy Celebrate what he's done It's all a bit of fun DGJ...Ruthin's new golden boy! Peace out.
ha this is fantastic ! Wonder if yours will get taken down too for copyright like the newport cover :p ?
btw there's nothing wrong with your pronounciation of Ruthin in the song, its just the english spelling and how non locals would pronounce it. The welsh, and original spelling (Rhuthun), which locals would use, is said differently though, as i'm sure has been pointed out already !
@droptheleash0 incorrect. the pronounciation is how english people would say it. europeans and americans always pronounce it correctly - as do tourists from the world over.
@droptheleash0 incorrect. i am not friends with a single non-Welsh speaker who pronounces it like that. some of my english friends, naturally, may initially pronounce it that way - but as soon as i explain it, all agree that it is best to pronounce it correctly. to do otherwise is a form of cultural imperialism.
@snoopdogg99 yes, I should have said none welsh and non locals as well. I agree, if someone I knew seriously insisted on pronouncing it in that way after being corrected, i'd think they were an idiot, but the person who made this video isn't a local and i'm guessing not a welsh speaker, and so the video having been made in that context, I thought the pronounciation was fine considering the context. No its not the correct one, but a simple correction would have enough surely ?
@droptheleash0 sure. however, what has irked so many people is that the writer/performer has steadfastly refused to publically acknowledge his error - instead trying to pass it off as a matter for interpretation - which it is not.
@snoopdogg99 Out of interest snoop, what's your opinion of the pronunciation of Llangwm near Haverfordwest, by both Welsh and non-Welsh speaking locals?
@NewHeavySounds i fail to see the relevance, but: as far as i can see, there is only one way to pronoucne this place name. to not use the 'double L' sound is a mark of a dullard, that much is certain.
@snoopdogg99 Interesting that you fail to see the relevance, which I guess illustrates that you're unaware of at least some of the myriad idiosyncrasies of pronunciation throughout Wales. For all locals there (Welsh and non-Welsh speakers alike), the village is pronounced "Langham", rather than what we'd expect. And it's be so for generations apparently. So, who's right? The locals, or those who would apply a set of 'standard' welsh phonics? Only wondrin' like.
@NewHeavySounds not trying to be a arse here, but surely the only reason the double L was dropped from the pronounication in the first place would have been through english influence, which is born from not correctly pronouncing the word right in the first place, therefore it having carried on being pronounced wrongly, rather than it being a regional difference or something. I don't see any reason at all why any welsh place name would not pronounce the Ll except for that reason. Just my opinion
@droptheleash0 I suppose the question then is, when does it 'become' right as it were? Or are the locals always going to be wrong? Seems harsh. Anyway, we should be wondering when DGJ will tackle / mispronounce more Welsh towns.
@NewHeavySounds Hmm, well I guess it all depends on your definition of 'right'. To the locals who call the place by that name I guess to them it's right, because thats how they refer to that place. But even though that pronounciation may be used by the majority of people, to me it doesn't become right. I guess whether its 'right' or not depends on how important you view that it is pronounced 'correctly', and to me personally, with a dislike anglicisation of the welsh language, that is important
@snoopdogg99@snoopdogg99 can we not turn the comments into a section on the ignorance of the english anyway, plenty more appropriate videos for that on youtube I think you'll agree
@droptheleash0 i agree entirely dude. totally. it's just confusing when people, out of some kind of misplaced 'loyalty' to this video, insist that the pronouncation is 'correct', when clearly it isn't.
@DavidGarlandJones Brecon up is hard to do - Its Merthyr on the dancefloor - Sweet Home Aberpennar - Stairway to Nefyn - Borth in the USA (not!) - Builth, this City - Don't Look Back in Bangor - Bat Out of Rhyl - Pontcanna Fields Forever...
@snoopdogg99 Like it! It's much better when you stick to short words. Now if you can just cut back on all those CAPITALS, we'll really be getting somewhere. It just gives the impression that you're ranting, which I'm sure you're not really.
@snoopdogg99 Like it! It's much better when you stick to short words. Now if you can just cut back on all those CAPITALS, we'll really be getting somewhere. It just gives the impression that you're ranting, which I'm sure you're not really.
@snoopdogg99 Like it! It's much better when you stick to short words. Now if you can just cut back on all those CAPITALS, we'll really be getting somewhere. It just gives the impression that you're ranting, which I'm sure you're not really.
@snoopdogg99 Like it ! It's much better when you stick to short words. Now if you can just cut back on all those CAPITALS, we'll really be getting somewhere. It merely gives the impression that you're a ranting fool, which I'm sure you're not really.
Fair enough David. Good effort. I've never been to Ruthin either, so not sure how people up there pronounce it. I suppose usage is the key. A parody of Katy Perry's California gurls as South Wales boys coming soon.
@ysbryd7 well said ysbrid - it was a lazy, ignorant, mistake. and TRUST ME - everyone up there pronounces it correctly - barring some of the english folk.
@snoopdogg99 Should never underestimate regional influences on language. I see you've opted to use regional spelling variations of words like 'dependent' and 'pronunciation' yourself. I put these down to regional influences as surely they can't be down to educational factors.
I'm a Welsh ex-pat living in the U.S. and have watched this many times! As a Welsh speaker from North Wales, I've always pronounced Ruthin like 'Nuthin'! Either way it's funny - okay! Us Welsh Americans love it!
I got caught by a fellow shopper singing this in the fruit and veg section at Asda today. The passer by, who was selecting a pineapple, joined in...map dance and all! There is definitely a happening happening...or is that a hoppening hoppening...so much debate about pronunciation it's hard to know whuts whot.
I grew up in Ruthin and its a fine little town. Great vid, shame the station shut in '62! You can get the bus from Chester :)
bolddubhglas 1 month ago
This is as good as a spoof video gets.
georgee895 1 month ago
It's got a nice castle. They do medieval banquets there.
DrChalkwithering 3 months ago
This is great!
Joshua12345 4 months ago
Whoo! I live near Ruthin! FTW:) Love this!!:D<3
Muezza25 5 months ago
Check out the attached video response where David phones the Mayor of Ruthin...
DavidGarlandJones 7 months ago
Love it!!
TimmsMJ 7 months ago
Brilliant, (fendigedig) , hilarious!!!
ynyslochtyn 7 months ago
It's a really top piece of comedy acting.
georgee895 7 months ago
That was good...
k3books 8 months ago
LOL !!! LOVED IT !!!
G22PRODUCTIONS 9 months ago
36,900 youtube hits collected so far ....
chestertouristcom 9 months ago
Just brilliant.
11henblas 10 months ago
Classic video.
ninfilms 10 months ago
I love Ruthin, I went to Ruthin school :P
JozefKPilsudski 10 months ago
LOl Im lovin' it! :D
f1ax 11 months ago
ysgol brynhyfryd!!!!!!!!!!!! shud of put a pic of it up, Love Ruthin its awesome bordering with Rhewl which borders with my village Llanrheadr!
pompeytrue657 11 months ago
I live in Ruthin and its small but good
MrMegaJohan 1 year ago
Some of you may be thrilled to know the follow up to 'Ain't Seen Ruthin Yet' will be live in a 10 days or so, featuring the rather dreamy, 'Ruthin Compares To You' - again deliberately mispronounced for the entertainment of the masses. Also, stand by those of you from Risca, Aberpennar, Mold, Abercynon, Bedwas, Betws, Prestatyn, Abercrave and Usk...!
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
@DavidGarlandJones what's the song about Betws?
soothpood 1 year ago
@soothpood Betws Sweet Symphony
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
@DavidGarlandJones I'm guessing that's spoof of the verve. Looking forward to see the video
soothpood 1 year ago
@soothpood Which Betws? & Where is it?:) Its just i live in a betws..:L
Muezza25 5 months ago
@Muezza25 ask heem 547#
soothpood 5 months ago
@DavidGarlandJones
postglasto 7 months ago
@DavidGarlandJones
postglasto 7 months ago
@DavidGarlandJones I've got no problems with your videos David. You certainly have a talent for parodies, I just feel your songs would be better if you didn't crowbar in a mispronounciation just to make it fit. Also, you haven't misspelled Ruthin, you've mispronounced it.
jenssalumae2 1 year ago
screw like, i want a FUCKING LOVE button <3
iamspikeyoko 1 year ago
@iamspikeyoko Me too!
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
Ruthin is a great place it's just abit small ___Go visit it ____ Ruthin Person xD
SLUTxXxWHOxXxU 1 year ago
@thatdude11ful Treforest, nr Ponty. Coming soon - 13 more Spoof Songs with Welsh place names in the title. Please subscribe!
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
Unfortunately, it's pronounce "rith-in" not ruth (as in rush)-in... Doesn't scan so well, but there you go. Love it, will share with people from Bryneglwys (over the hill from Rhuthun).
Aebvtivs 1 year ago
Waiting now for "The Crynant Game" ....
mouse4702 1 year ago
What about Caernarfon then David? have you been there? but I must warn you in advance that BANGOR Gwynedd is the closest train station to go there, even though there is a Welsh Highland Railway there though...:-)
wiccacharmedgal 1 year ago
Not only have you never been to Ruthin, you can't pronounce it either.
jenssalumae2 1 year ago
That cheered me up, which was needed after the announcement of the royal engagement!
alecclews 1 year ago
Made me smile! Do one about Wrexham!
klootme 1 year ago
@klootme Someone Suggested - Percy Sledge's soul classic, 'When A Man Lives In Wrexham'... ;-)
DavidGarlandJones 1 hour ago
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
@DavidGarlandJones there's a joke about Wrexham in which someone mishears that the next act on at a gig is "country and western" then reports back to their friend that next on is "some c**t from Wrexham" (Being originally from Wrexham I can laugh at that.....some wouldn't)
klootme 1 year ago
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@klootme What about Caernarfon then David? have you been there? but I must warn you in advance that BANGOR Gwynedd is the closest train station to go there, even though there is a Welsh Highland Railway there though...:-)
wiccacharmedgal 1 year ago
Absolutely great - don't worry we have seen Ruthin and it's fab!!!!
ConstanzeWeber 1 year ago
Glad to know how to pronounce Ruthin before visiting from Australia! Thank you David. Very funny
jenniibr 1 year ago
Absolutely brilliant. Who is going to do a song about Cardiff? probably won't be long......
vauxfiat 1 year ago
I'm from Ruthin I love this video it's great fun and has made me smile. I also love all the sad debate about the pronounciation, does it really matter?... Anyway, now that you have gained such fame from this lovely little town don't you think you should come and visit, you owe us at least that?
ThePiggy999 1 year ago
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Brilliant!
Loving here in the US.
(How does feel to an international film star?)
Did visit Wales this year, but alas, like yourself "I ain't seen Ruthin yet"
Must see on my next trip though! Looks better than Newport! LOL
Well done on a great vid!
BArider2 1 year ago
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Brilliant!
Loving here in the US.
(How does feel to be an tinternational film star?)
Did visit Wales this year, but alas, like yourself "I ain't seen Ruthin yet"
A must see on my next trip! Looks better than Newport! LOL
Well done on a great vid!
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PhilCymro 1 year ago
It's a good spoof, and good publicity for Rhuthun. But just been reading the posts about pronunciation - it's not suprising that some people pronounce it ruthin (rhyming with nuthin) but it IS suprising that when welsh speakers point out that it's incorrect, they still maintain they're right. Surely the correct way to pronounce a name is always in its own language? If outsiders pronounced places like Gloucester and Leominster how they're written, would the 'ruthin' brigade's stance be the same?
PhilCymro 1 year ago
i have seen ruthin!! - top one!!
dimeone1 1 year ago
funny video nice one!
pyraplastic 1 year ago
Wonderful - my home town out there for the masses to enjoy!
BenDGedig 1 year ago
...and still the hit count rises... \o/
Lotusss666 1 year ago
@Cinnyhunny Nope. Just 5,000! Thanks.
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
ruthin for life hell yeah, it is a very nice town and has alot of history t it proberly the nicest town in wales visit it!
EAGames08 1 year ago
25K!!! Thanks world!
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
soooo good lol almost wish i was welsh :))
angeldust31 1 year ago
soooo good lol
angeldust31 1 year ago
this has certaintly put ruthin on the map! 5 thousand hits? a lot more, keep up the good work david!!
nellyjones2601 1 year ago
Crackin work David!
Definitely do a Mold one..........Moldfinger may be your best bet, yes....
as Yr Wyddgrug may not work too well
NevsTash 1 year ago
@NevsTash he should do one bout Treuddyn ..
m648mvp 1 year ago
Such a shame he pronounced Ruthin incorrectly the entire song!! It should be as RITHin :/
zippy172 1 year ago
Da iawn David.
SionW2 1 year ago
David what's up with your Wikipedia page? deleted Aug 15th?
rhinotinto 1 year ago
Haha
GORDYMC89 1 year ago
LOL
chestertouristcom 1 year ago
Ha Ha! Fancy seeing you here Gerald ... been posting this on FaceBook (It's Phil From Maes Garmon)
Nice one David BTW ... I'm spreading the word ... I reckon "Stuck in the middle of Crewe" if you're on a railway theme would be good :) Maybe without the ear cutting bit
Can't believe the ridiculous debate about how it's pronounced David's is absolutely correct because 1. If you were English and had never heard it before you would say rUthin 2 it rhymes with nOthin wheras nIthin clearly doesnt
rpmcmurphy38 1 year ago
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rpmcmurphy38 1 year ago
gr8t
button1943 1 year ago
There's a song being sung 'bout Ruthin
That's Ruthin up near Rhyl.
There's a Ruthin down near Pencoed
That's not the one that's brill.
Llanrofa 1 year ago
@Llanrofa Excellent work. Bravo!
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
@DavidGarlandJones A better last line would be "It's near St Mary Hill." Couldn't believe me eyes when I saw a sign for Ruthin in the middle of the Vale. Thought I'd gone all Tardis...
Llanrofa 1 year ago
5000? 22, 409 at this point in time. Good going, well deserved, really enjoyed this
Shindai 1 year ago
Love it - I'm from Mold... just round the corner....
geralddavison 1 year ago
@geralddavison Never been there either I'm afraid. Shirley's 'Mold Finger' might make it on to the Xmas compilation.
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
I`ve lived in Ruthin for 6 years and have never heard it pronounced ` Rithin `. Mind you I`m from Liverpool and really Liverpool should be pronounced, ` Lyverpool `, as in the Liver birds., so what do I know ? According to the spell checker, both `Ruthin` and ` Rhuthin` are wrong, so there !
Cartoonsbystan 1 year ago
@Cartoonsbystan Cardiff is pronounced exactly that, except by people who live in Cardiff who call it Care-diff. You pays your money... ;-)
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
@DavidGarlandJones I used to know Cardiff quite well, I used to deliver cars there, and Newport, in fact all over S. Wales and N. Wales
Cartoonsbystan 1 year ago
I'm actually going to Ruthin with my girlfriend on Monday, I might make a video for you David ;)
HeavierThanWater 1 year ago
Class! Played footy for Ruthin years ago & still dive through there a lot. Good place!
MrSomethingtosay 1 year ago
haha, my ma went to school in Ruthin.
nice work
LaughatNAZIs 1 year ago
@hairyarse Yes, it was Beeching that did for the railway in Ruthin, though a landslide closed the line to Corwen back in the 50s. I think the station actually closed in '63, not '62 as David has it - I can just about remember a steam loco in the station yard, and I don't remember '62!
arwelp 1 year ago
@arwelp According to page 202 of RJ Butts', 'Directory of Railway Stations: Details Every Public And Private Passenger Station, Halt, Platform And Stopping Place, Past And Present (1st ed.). Sparkford: Patrick Stephens Ltd. ISBN 1-8526-0508-1. OCLC 60251199, Ruthin Station closed on the 30th April 1962. However, it could well be that there continued to be some freight and industrial train traffic into 1963. Hope this clears things up, station spotters!
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
Very cool :o)
Henllan 1 year ago
@mutleyisbarking
I completely agree. I live in Ruthin and therefore know the lingo ;-) The song makes me smile.
You've even made it into our local paper (The Denbighshire Free Press) this week!
blodynbillie 1 year ago
@blodynbillie WHAT!? I've made it into the local press?? Oh no, did you mean David and his song? I lived in Ruthin once...ah the memories...well I have one memory... I was very young.
mutleyisbarking 1 year ago
@blodynbillie I may organise a charabanc outing from South Wales to Ruthin later this year for a pub crawl and maybe a couple of impromptu renditions of my 'hit'.
;-)
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
lol woo too my home town!
eradius 1 year ago
Hi David, couldn't help noticing the copy of "Flagellation" on the bookshelf behind you, sounds a bit naughty - any good? : )
rhinotinto 1 year ago
@rhinotinto ;-)
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
Have you presented this to the Snowdonia tourist board (or even the Ruthin tourist board if such a thing exists)
I'm sure this would get people wanted to come to Ruthin by the coach load.
Obviously not by the train load :)
They might want to edit that last part out.
That was all Lord Beechings doingI'll wager, closing the station I mean.
hairyarse 1 year ago
Awesome.
Keep the faith.
LandRoverMan 1 year ago
@snoopdogg99 do you need a hug?
AnnieMacA 1 year ago
Love it...I'd like to release my personal favourite,"I've been to paradise but I've never been to Neath"
208shelley 1 year ago
Brilliant! :)
jax36536 1 year ago
Great fun! thank you!
rhinotinto 1 year ago
It's brilliant! Love it! You'll be famous one day soon! :)
jax36536 1 year ago
@ SnoopyDoggz99 Yo! Where iz you mun? Not still out with iwz friends? Or you 'aving a bit of kip before goin' back to iwz day job, like? 'Scuse the pronooooounciation, like. Missing you already. Mwaa!
modelworker1 1 year ago
@modelworker1 i think you'll be okay dude.
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
@snoopdogg99 I'm not sure how many times you've clicked on ths video Mr Dogg but you've certainly provided at least 20 of the 19425 hits to date. Your dedication to our cause and your contribution to our success has to be noted. Thank you!
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
@ snoopdogg99 Yo dude! Respect!
modelworker1 1 year ago
Great Job on Ruthin David ... Come to Magor for the next one..... we need you !! Yes, that's the Magor near the Severn bridge.
JimboCrowthorne 1 year ago
Yes, I agree it's brilliant! Loved it. I've always called it Ruthin, I got lost once going to Rhyl and ended up there.... :)
jax36536 1 year ago
mutleyisbarking 1 year ago
@mutleyisbarking Ace!
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
@mutleyisbarking Well said! and I couldn't agree more!!
AnnieMacA 1 year ago
No such place as Gwent, but never mind. "Monmouthshire" was too many syllables I guess...
OglordTube 1 year ago
@NewHeavySounds I think it might be easier to re-invent the wheel than to...well, you know what I mean
modelworker1 1 year ago
hahahahhahah
beingPOISONED 1 year ago
Wicked I really enjoyed that, any chance of a Rhyl spoof David?
glassbloweruk 1 year ago
@glassbloweruk "Ain't Nothing Like The Rhyl Thing"
NewHeavySounds 1 year ago
@glassbloweruk "Ain't Nothing Like The Rhyl Thing"?
NewHeavySounds 1 year ago
i live in Ruthin...this is classic...brilliant!
bourntwyn 1 year ago
Brill.
spitspot0 1 year ago
Brilliant, Loved it! :-)
007vauxhall 1 year ago
Fantastic! Well done David! And Enzo too!
peterglynnfilms 1 year ago
could do with a better video to go with this david, but its quite catchy. i like it anyway
Camerafreakuk 1 year ago
GREAT LAUGH THE JUMPING ON THE WAGON FOR THIS KINDA THING BUT WHAT HAPPENED AT RADIO CARDIFF YOUR INTERVIEW WAS A SHOCKER MAN!!!
kidkustom 1 year ago
@kidkustom So many reasons! Made a film whilst there which might explain a few things tho'. Cheers.
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
DAVID GOOD LAUGH YOUR VIDEO, BUT WHAT THE HELL WENT WRONG AT RADIO CARDIFF YOUR INTERVIEW WAS A SHOCKER
kidkustom 1 year ago
@snoopdogg Sorry, wasn't that aware of your limitations. Can make it really simple if necessary...
modelworker1 1 year ago
@modelworker1 'seems glib'
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
ha this is fantastic ! Wonder if yours will get taken down too for copyright like the newport cover :p ?
btw there's nothing wrong with your pronounciation of Ruthin in the song, its just the english spelling and how non locals would pronounce it. The welsh, and original spelling (Rhuthun), which locals would use, is said differently though, as i'm sure has been pointed out already !
droptheleash0 1 year ago
@droptheleash0 1. Might do - prob have to get a few more hits first! 2. Thanks for clarifying. DGJ
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
@droptheleash0 incorrect. the pronounciation is how english people would say it. europeans and americans always pronounce it correctly - as do tourists from the world over.
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
@snoopdogg99 No, thats how non welsh speakers pronounce it, english or not. I can make my mind up for myself thank you very much ;) !
droptheleash0 1 year ago
@droptheleash0 incorrect. i am not friends with a single non-Welsh speaker who pronounces it like that. some of my english friends, naturally, may initially pronounce it that way - but as soon as i explain it, all agree that it is best to pronounce it correctly. to do otherwise is a form of cultural imperialism.
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
@snoopdogg99 yes, I should have said none welsh and non locals as well. I agree, if someone I knew seriously insisted on pronouncing it in that way after being corrected, i'd think they were an idiot, but the person who made this video isn't a local and i'm guessing not a welsh speaker, and so the video having been made in that context, I thought the pronounciation was fine considering the context. No its not the correct one, but a simple correction would have enough surely ?
droptheleash0 1 year ago
@droptheleash0 sure. however, what has irked so many people is that the writer/performer has steadfastly refused to publically acknowledge his error - instead trying to pass it off as a matter for interpretation - which it is not.
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
@snoopdogg99 oh right, well that's something else altogether then
droptheleash0 1 year ago
@snoopdogg99 Out of interest snoop, what's your opinion of the pronunciation of Llangwm near Haverfordwest, by both Welsh and non-Welsh speaking locals?
NewHeavySounds 1 year ago
@NewHeavySounds i fail to see the relevance, but: as far as i can see, there is only one way to pronoucne this place name. to not use the 'double L' sound is a mark of a dullard, that much is certain.
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
@snoopdogg99 Interesting that you fail to see the relevance, which I guess illustrates that you're unaware of at least some of the myriad idiosyncrasies of pronunciation throughout Wales. For all locals there (Welsh and non-Welsh speakers alike), the village is pronounced "Langham", rather than what we'd expect. And it's be so for generations apparently. So, who's right? The locals, or those who would apply a set of 'standard' welsh phonics? Only wondrin' like.
NewHeavySounds 1 year ago
@NewHeavySounds not trying to be a arse here, but surely the only reason the double L was dropped from the pronounication in the first place would have been through english influence, which is born from not correctly pronouncing the word right in the first place, therefore it having carried on being pronounced wrongly, rather than it being a regional difference or something. I don't see any reason at all why any welsh place name would not pronounce the Ll except for that reason. Just my opinion
droptheleash0 1 year ago
@droptheleash0 I suppose the question then is, when does it 'become' right as it were? Or are the locals always going to be wrong? Seems harsh. Anyway, we should be wondering when DGJ will tackle / mispronounce more Welsh towns.
NewHeavySounds 1 year ago
@NewHeavySounds Hmm, well I guess it all depends on your definition of 'right'. To the locals who call the place by that name I guess to them it's right, because thats how they refer to that place. But even though that pronounciation may be used by the majority of people, to me it doesn't become right. I guess whether its 'right' or not depends on how important you view that it is pronounced 'correctly', and to me personally, with a dislike anglicisation of the welsh language, that is important
droptheleash0 1 year ago
@snoopdogg99 @snoopdogg99 can we not turn the comments into a section on the ignorance of the english anyway, plenty more appropriate videos for that on youtube I think you'll agree
droptheleash0 1 year ago
@droptheleash0 i agree entirely dude. totally. it's just confusing when people, out of some kind of misplaced 'loyalty' to this video, insist that the pronouncation is 'correct', when clearly it isn't.
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
@droptheleash0 Thanks for pointing that out, saves me having to bother... as an English immigrant to N.Wales, I like to respect the names a bit...
Saighton 1 year ago
@Saighton top attitude dude. shame the writers/performers of garland jones don't have that level of respect.
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
Classic. Which town next.
27ijt 1 year ago
@27ijt Night Boat To Caerau
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago
@DavidGarlandJones Brecon up is hard to do - Its Merthyr on the dancefloor - Sweet Home Aberpennar - Stairway to Nefyn - Borth in the USA (not!) - Builth, this City - Don't Look Back in Bangor - Bat Out of Rhyl - Pontcanna Fields Forever...
Llanrofa 1 year ago
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@27ijt i live in Ruthin...this is classic...brilliant!
bourntwyn 1 year ago
you have made it in to the sky news article about goldie looking chains newport parody
figgleliggle 1 year ago
well done david funny as fook !! like the ending ! im from the port !
welshpaula 1 year ago
More... And Ruthin looks verrry nice
trulymadly1 1 year ago
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@snoopdogg99 Like it! It's much better when you stick to short words. Now if you can just cut back on all those CAPITALS, we'll really be getting somewhere. It just gives the impression that you're ranting, which I'm sure you're not really.
modelworker1 1 year ago
@snoopdogg99 Like it! It's much better when you stick to short words. Now if you can just cut back on all those CAPITALS, we'll really be getting somewhere. It just gives the impression that you're ranting, which I'm sure you're not really.
modelworker1 1 year ago
@modelworker1 what on earth are you talking about?
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
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@snoopdogg99 Like it! It's much better when you stick to short words. Now if you can just cut back on all those CAPITALS, we'll really be getting somewhere. It just gives the impression that you're ranting, which I'm sure you're not really.
modelworker1 1 year ago
@snoopdogg99 Like it ! It's much better when you stick to short words. Now if you can just cut back on all those CAPITALS, we'll really be getting somewhere. It merely gives the impression that you're a ranting fool, which I'm sure you're not really.
modelworker1 1 year ago
AWESOME! I think this is better than the Newport one if I'm totally honest.
SamuelHorler 1 year ago
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ysbryd7 1 year ago
@DavidGarlandJones
Fair enough David. Good effort. I've never been to Ruthin either, so not sure how people up there pronounce it. I suppose usage is the key. A parody of Katy Perry's California gurls as South Wales boys coming soon.
Cheers.
ysbryd7 1 year ago
Erm. Sorry to be a pedant and all, but it's pronounced Rithin.
Chwarae teg though.
ysbryd7 1 year ago
@ysbryd7 well said ysbrid - it was a lazy, ignorant, mistake. and TRUST ME - everyone up there pronounces it correctly - barring some of the english folk.
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
DGJ you rock dude :) respect
Cynhafal1 1 year ago
Nice one :-)
midiansangel 1 year ago
Cracking Vid David, what's next?....Stairway to Nevern?
RockyGower 1 year ago
@RockyGower Nah! "It's Merthyr on the dancefloor" with Sophie Ellis Wrexham
Llanrofa 1 year ago
I love the pause when you came out of Pontypridd station, David; it's the same one everyone does when they realise the entire station smells of piss.
Altae87 1 year ago
Snoopdogg. Tw*t.
Have I got the basics right?
NewHeavySounds 1 year ago
@NewHeavySounds i think you'll be fine if you just relax a little.
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
well done this is brilliant lol
newportonian 1 year ago
Just brilliant.........now do one about Llandrindod Wells. LOL.
Andy705 1 year ago
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bashibach 1 year ago
@snoopdogg99 Should never underestimate regional influences on language. I see you've opted to use regional spelling variations of words like 'dependent' and 'pronunciation' yourself. I put these down to regional influences as surely they can't be down to educational factors.
modelworker1 1 year ago
@modelworker1 glib.
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
I'm a Welsh ex-pat living in the U.S. and have watched this many times! As a Welsh speaker from North Wales, I've always pronounced Ruthin like 'Nuthin'! Either way it's funny - okay! Us Welsh Americans love it!
bashibach 1 year ago
@bashibach 'seems disengenuous'
snoopdogg99 1 year ago
I got caught by a fellow shopper singing this in the fruit and veg section at Asda today. The passer by, who was selecting a pineapple, joined in...map dance and all! There is definitely a happening happening...or is that a hoppening hoppening...so much debate about pronunciation it's hard to know whuts whot.
mutleyisbarking 1 year ago
@mutleyisbarking Might I ask which branch of Asda you were in?
DavidGarlandJones 1 year ago