I think a lot of people are missing that in the moments where it looks like there's a "break" in the action on the feeders side, there's actually a control method going on either through joint manipulation, using a psychological control such as a blade on a vital area(enormous issue of survival in the mind) or simply just how the body reacts to overwhelming attacks and constant recurring pain. Very nice demo, I'm seeing a lot that can be learned from it
Nice demo, but very unrealistic for street/self-defense application. No one in real life would attack you like that. The techniques are highly complex and require high level of mastery, thus, it would be difficult to pull off under highly stressful moments. In chaotic street attacks, there'd be no time to execute these techniques, specially if there're multiple attackers. There're way too many risks for error and in situations when one is fighting for one's life, there's no room for error.
@jinglebike While there's several styles that I could name, two of them really stand out. I really like Krav Maga. It's simple, the techniques can work for multiple situations, it can be learned and applied in short duration, and it's one of the few styles that's willing to change, evolve, and adapt with new idea and taking old one out. Then, there's the Dog Brothers, that's as realistic a martial can get, and their stuff are geared toward actual fighting, and not pre-arranged scenarios.
while i agree with you in the empty hand world, most Filipino knife fighters believe in victory through a thousand cuts. they like to take small cuts, get you bleeding and panicking, make you light headed and wear you down. its really quite sinister, but they never like to commit for fear of getting cut themselves. the idea is lower reward through lower risk.
I grew up in Hong Kong and i'm really glad to know that there's people out there practicing and promoting the filipino martial arts.Hope to see you guys someday.I'm the 2nd guy that Master Felix is beating up.hehe.Mabuhay ang Pilipinas at ang Pakamut!
Sorry for all this ms up demo. The truth is it was an expected that they called me after Grand Master Rickets of Bakbakan and a good friend Master Joe Tan of Tapado after their demo, but I hope I can show a good one in the future....to all that did bad comments about this vid tell you, I wish you seen me fighting in real life in the street of Carbon, Colon,Lorega and Pasil Cebu, I feel so good when I see,smell/ feel the blood after you stabb a human body..but for a reason...
To all friends and brother of Pilipino Fighting Arts/ FMA. Specialy the guys from Hongkong, the style PAKAMUT is came from or originated from our very own first Pilipino hero Datu Lapu-lapu, I hope that being a Pilipino we should be very proud of instead of clling it names in foriegn language....The Modern Arnis of GM Presas was a lot of similarity in striking angles but I wish he digged the intire concept/history and application the way I was taught by my Grandpa, I'm really proud of him.
i have to aggree with risk727 theses types of drills are designed to make you react faster doesnt mean you are going follow these drills the way they are shown in a real situation they get you used to instantly reacting (ive done full contact stickfighting with only head gear no body padding and no gloves and drills like these make you react without thinking very very often i block or conter with a shot of my own and after i think how did i do that its all comes down to these types of drills
Wow I didn't realize just quite how far escrima had moved out of Asia. I have been receiving informal training in modern arnis, are their many differences between pakamut and presas' style?
Master Felix Roiles, I would be honoured if you ever came to Hong Kong to show you around the town. Thank you for posting this video online.
Yer but it never looks like this in sparring does it! This stuff needs to be done in a free attack/sparring situation. Then you can see what works. Not alot!
No, you won't find these combos being thrown in every fight out in the real world, but the practioner is learning different moves for different situations. The student is learning what kinds of attacks can be used from which positions, just like karateka learn their kata. Drills. Muscle memory. Get it? I don't expect an opponent to stand there while I throw every combo I know at him, but I can usually give a good solid hit from wherever I'm at. After all, you only need one hit.
Thanks for taking me down memory lane with this one! The point is this, far from building up a Muscle memory, one simply ends up with conflicting messages. Which is not helpful in a real life situation. Adding more levels of complexity ends up hindering not helping. If nature abhors a vacuum then combat abhors complexity. That's why when reality hits all this fancy stuff takes a dive out the window!
I agree that complexity hinders, but what conflicts do you mean? Brain says "zig" and body says "zag?" Or do you mean the brain getting confused by trying to recite all these complicated anyos in the middle of a high-stress fight? The ones most likely to fall into that trap are the novices who think that the sequence must always be static rather than fluid, and that's when you get the conflicts, I think.
1)HeartlessBastid A combination of both! You get the same thing with many arts e.g. Karate & Kung Fu with the Katas & Forms, apart from the fact that most of the meaning of original movements are lost, so it's down to interpretations of the sensi & sifu. Many moves are again too complex, which is why so much of them end up looking like a form of kick boxing, regardless of style the moment they engage in ardent sparing.
2)Lets take an art like Wing Chun simple forms showing arm positions. Then incomes the trapping hands in sparing & they don't work, because most tend to teach it trapping, fast incoming punches from a blocking position. However, traps do work in self-defence i.e. when someone grabs you, goes to grab you or attempts to punch!
3)One of the best arts where form follows function, is western Fencing its very logical & scientific, hardly surprising given some of the minds involved in its development. It has a limited number of moves but like the Roman alphabet, the combination of these moves is enormous, but it works because its uncluttered!
FYI: Try sparring with the man. When you notice he is blocking most of your strikes and hitting you most of the time, you will realize how well this man is trained and learned in the art of escrima where form does follow function.
Drzacksmith, there is a reason for the 'clutter.' And frankly if western Fencing were so effective, and scientific, then we would have been taught western Fencing in the Army instead of Japanese bushido, judo,and bayonet moves. We were even told the reason is because WWII taught the westerners that their fighting styles were not effective in close quarters against the Japanese. If I told you the reason for the 'clutter' it would be giving away something for free I spent lots of money to learn.
wow! that was really crappy martial arts right there. let me try to hit the guy 400 times then take away his weapon. this shit never works in the street but everyone thinks it does because of assholes who train these shitty arts.
lol.. imbecile.. that shows your options to hit, it doesn't mean that you can do all that in a second. in real life you just need 1 attack or counter attack to finish your opponent..
try fighting a master of this art with knife to knife or bolo to bolo and let's see if you will say that this martial art is crap. P.S I'm a cebuano aswell.
His name is Master Felix Roiles. He's from Cebu, Philippines and he was a champion boxer and stickfighter in the Philippines. He can kick my ass when we spar and I respect him and his ability to the utmost. Most certainly, it's FMA. His personal family style is called Pakamut. Very good stuff.
I think a lot of people are missing that in the moments where it looks like there's a "break" in the action on the feeders side, there's actually a control method going on either through joint manipulation, using a psychological control such as a blade on a vital area(enormous issue of survival in the mind) or simply just how the body reacts to overwhelming attacks and constant recurring pain. Very nice demo, I'm seeing a lot that can be learned from it
PlagueInfestedCheese 1 year ago
Nice demo, but very unrealistic for street/self-defense application. No one in real life would attack you like that. The techniques are highly complex and require high level of mastery, thus, it would be difficult to pull off under highly stressful moments. In chaotic street attacks, there'd be no time to execute these techniques, specially if there're multiple attackers. There're way too many risks for error and in situations when one is fighting for one's life, there's no room for error.
petion2010 1 year ago
@petion2010 so what martial art do you suggest other than the one that originated from the deadliest knife fighters on the planet?
jinglebike 8 months ago
@jinglebike While there's several styles that I could name, two of them really stand out. I really like Krav Maga. It's simple, the techniques can work for multiple situations, it can be learned and applied in short duration, and it's one of the few styles that's willing to change, evolve, and adapt with new idea and taking old one out. Then, there's the Dog Brothers, that's as realistic a martial can get, and their stuff are geared toward actual fighting, and not pre-arranged scenarios.
petion2010 8 months ago
I like it very much but i think there's to many moments in a lot of the techniques.
With any strike imo the aim should be to finish as quickly as possible. 2 or 3 strikes and it should be over so you can focus on the next attacker.
Its looks very effective tho, but im all about simple quick and to the point... Hehe to the point?? Get it??
SudoJudo1 2 years ago
while i agree with you in the empty hand world, most Filipino knife fighters believe in victory through a thousand cuts. they like to take small cuts, get you bleeding and panicking, make you light headed and wear you down. its really quite sinister, but they never like to commit for fear of getting cut themselves. the idea is lower reward through lower risk.
violentbuddha 2 years ago
Quick straight front snap to the nuts. Next case.
DoNotEnter2009 2 years ago
Pretty amazing. I always found martial arts to be fearsome as well as artistic.
cnKuczek 3 years ago
Woah that guy is great at cqc, looks a bit fat round the belly though!
alexd9999999 3 years ago
Great demo!
combaton 3 years ago
I grew up in Hong Kong and i'm really glad to know that there's people out there practicing and promoting the filipino martial arts.Hope to see you guys someday.I'm the 2nd guy that Master Felix is beating up.hehe.Mabuhay ang Pilipinas at ang Pakamut!
KrisParagas 3 years ago
does demo not mean its all corigraphed? no ide ahow to spell that... but just wondering, cause other wise its like a movie really...
triviumlambofgod 3 years ago
Sorry for all this ms up demo. The truth is it was an expected that they called me after Grand Master Rickets of Bakbakan and a good friend Master Joe Tan of Tapado after their demo, but I hope I can show a good one in the future....to all that did bad comments about this vid tell you, I wish you seen me fighting in real life in the street of Carbon, Colon,Lorega and Pasil Cebu, I feel so good when I see,smell/ feel the blood after you stabb a human body..but for a reason...
pakamut 4 years ago
To all friends and brother of Pilipino Fighting Arts/ FMA. Specialy the guys from Hongkong, the style PAKAMUT is came from or originated from our very own first Pilipino hero Datu Lapu-lapu, I hope that being a Pilipino we should be very proud of instead of clling it names in foriegn language....The Modern Arnis of GM Presas was a lot of similarity in striking angles but I wish he digged the intire concept/history and application the way I was taught by my Grandpa, I'm really proud of him.
pakamut 4 years ago
i have to aggree with risk727 theses types of drills are designed to make you react faster doesnt mean you are going follow these drills the way they are shown in a real situation they get you used to instantly reacting (ive done full contact stickfighting with only head gear no body padding and no gloves and drills like these make you react without thinking very very often i block or conter with a shot of my own and after i think how did i do that its all comes down to these types of drills
rawkus1020 4 years ago
Wow I didn't realize just quite how far escrima had moved out of Asia. I have been receiving informal training in modern arnis, are their many differences between pakamut and presas' style?
Master Felix Roiles, I would be honoured if you ever came to Hong Kong to show you around the town. Thank you for posting this video online.
entertainer 4 years ago
Yer but it never looks like this in sparring does it! This stuff needs to be done in a free attack/sparring situation. Then you can see what works. Not alot!
Drzacksmith 4 years ago
No, you won't find these combos being thrown in every fight out in the real world, but the practioner is learning different moves for different situations. The student is learning what kinds of attacks can be used from which positions, just like karateka learn their kata. Drills. Muscle memory. Get it? I don't expect an opponent to stand there while I throw every combo I know at him, but I can usually give a good solid hit from wherever I'm at. After all, you only need one hit.
HeartlessBastid 4 years ago
Thanks for taking me down memory lane with this one! The point is this, far from building up a Muscle memory, one simply ends up with conflicting messages. Which is not helpful in a real life situation. Adding more levels of complexity ends up hindering not helping. If nature abhors a vacuum then combat abhors complexity. That's why when reality hits all this fancy stuff takes a dive out the window!
Drzacksmith 4 years ago
I agree that complexity hinders, but what conflicts do you mean? Brain says "zig" and body says "zag?" Or do you mean the brain getting confused by trying to recite all these complicated anyos in the middle of a high-stress fight? The ones most likely to fall into that trap are the novices who think that the sequence must always be static rather than fluid, and that's when you get the conflicts, I think.
HeartlessBastid 3 years ago
1)HeartlessBastid A combination of both! You get the same thing with many arts e.g. Karate & Kung Fu with the Katas & Forms, apart from the fact that most of the meaning of original movements are lost, so it's down to interpretations of the sensi & sifu. Many moves are again too complex, which is why so much of them end up looking like a form of kick boxing, regardless of style the moment they engage in ardent sparing.
Drzacksmith 3 years ago
2)Lets take an art like Wing Chun simple forms showing arm positions. Then incomes the trapping hands in sparing & they don't work, because most tend to teach it trapping, fast incoming punches from a blocking position. However, traps do work in self-defence i.e. when someone grabs you, goes to grab you or attempts to punch!
Drzacksmith 3 years ago
3)One of the best arts where form follows function, is western Fencing its very logical & scientific, hardly surprising given some of the minds involved in its development. It has a limited number of moves but like the Roman alphabet, the combination of these moves is enormous, but it works because its uncluttered!
Drzacksmith 3 years ago
FYI: Try sparring with the man. When you notice he is blocking most of your strikes and hitting you most of the time, you will realize how well this man is trained and learned in the art of escrima where form does follow function.
Peace
@_*
daedolos 3 years ago
Drzacksmith, there is a reason for the 'clutter.' And frankly if western Fencing were so effective, and scientific, then we would have been taught western Fencing in the Army instead of Japanese bushido, judo,and bayonet moves. We were even told the reason is because WWII taught the westerners that their fighting styles were not effective in close quarters against the Japanese. If I told you the reason for the 'clutter' it would be giving away something for free I spent lots of money to learn.
trounds2 2 years ago
Indeed. Bruce lee studied Fencing for its distancing.
SudoJudo1 2 years ago
Felix,
Good to see you're doing well!
Good video!
Always amazes us on how quick people are to comment when they don't know who you are or have never see the proper drills done to learn the technique.
Keep training - From the PIMA guys in Jersey City "DocePares" - Peter P, Big John, James B, Little Joe, Scotty, Jun
risk727 4 years ago
Thanks brothers..... a lot of people did some comments.... but its funny... hope we meet this people someday.... and give them a hug....
pakamut 4 years ago
wow! that was really crappy martial arts right there. let me try to hit the guy 400 times then take away his weapon. this shit never works in the street but everyone thinks it does because of assholes who train these shitty arts.
Lohanwarrior89 4 years ago
lol.. imbecile.. that shows your options to hit, it doesn't mean that you can do all that in a second. in real life you just need 1 attack or counter attack to finish your opponent..
deathwish475 4 years ago
Dude.... try sparring with Master Felix Roiles. You might change your mind.
Peace
@_*
He hits hard then he finishes you off with locks and takedowns.
daedolos 4 years ago
try fighting a master of this art with knife to knife or bolo to bolo and let's see if you will say that this martial art is crap. P.S I'm a cebuano aswell.
stephen182006 4 years ago
uhh hey idiots hes Asian
lovfallenangels 4 years ago
Black guy didnt even take off his formal clothes HE ROCKS owned all those crackers.
mwgzero 4 years ago
this is Silat Suffian.....
sathenik 4 years ago
this is not FMA. this is just anything that comes out in the head. no particular name. i think hes very good at that.
cemusal 4 years ago
His name is Master Felix Roiles. He's from Cebu, Philippines and he was a champion boxer and stickfighter in the Philippines. He can kick my ass when we spar and I respect him and his ability to the utmost. Most certainly, it's FMA. His personal family style is called Pakamut. Very good stuff.
Peace
daedolos 4 years ago
Very good. what martial art is? sipalki, aikido?...
davidbarrel 4 years ago
i like the leg lock :) and ground fighting :)
Sitbatan 4 years ago
That guy didn't even take off his street clothes lol
kalijasin 5 years ago
That guy didn't even take off his street clothes lol
kalijasin 5 years ago
Outstanding!!! Who was that guy?!!!
darla007 5 years ago
my master
karloparagas6 5 years ago
Galing!
lakanpopot 5 years ago