im beein honest here ..i dont care if phill has 11 bracelets ..he's a fckin idiot..he won bracelets back in the day when the fields was so low like 500people ..i see him get mad at hands all the time ..and he wonders why he loses ..how in the hell did he think A4 was good there ..omg ..just fckd 100k down the drain with A4 (Aginst the best player in the world in my opinion DANIEL NEGREANU ) fck hullmuth ..the thing is he can play like but its all ego with him because of his fame .i say fck him
im beein honest here ..i dont care if phill has 11 bracelets ..he's a fckin idiot..he won bracelets back in the day when the fields was so low like 500people ..i see him get mad at hands all the time ..and he wonders why he loses ..how in the hell did he think A4 was good there ..omg ..just fckd 100k down the drain with A4 (Aginst the best player in the world in my opinion DANIEL NEGREANU ) fck hullmuth ..the thing is he can play like but its all ego with him because of his fame ..i say fck him
Well played phil, donking off 80k with a4 off lol. 'He re raised me with A10, couldnt put him on that f*****g hand'. YOU CALLED HIS RAISE OUT OF POSITION WITH ACE 4 OFFSUIT!!! and he wonders why he loses money in cash games.....
players call it read... i call it LUCK. its just hilarious. hellmuth always goes crazy if he looses and the other was not playing HIS way of poker... real kiddie fight again n again.
i think Negreanu knew that Phil didn't have Flush, i'll explain you: Daniel had a flowers ace, and he knew that Helmuth had an ace too, but of another color, so couldn't have more than 4/5 flush
once again phil is talking to himself! he should of took his mp3 player out and threw it against the fucking wall and said fuck!! that would of been cool!
@coffeefusion I can't believe they even let him do that...he should be banned at this rate. There's gotta be some sort of regulations regarding professionalism where these people play at.
@Da1337DoOD Might not bt 60% of the best players. but there is quite a few pro/really good ones that makes it to the final table. But how often do you see them win a WSOP
@sparty007 Finally somebody who apparently plays and isn't afraid or ashamed to admit the relatively large role "Luck" has in the game. Your pointing out the WSOP percentages was great. How often are 8 of the final 10 players ranked even in the top 20? How about neverr ! Thumbs up "Sparty" !
@aznmigitman1118 Man you need to read my comment, I never said its just a game of luck. I said its a game of 60% kill and 40% luck. if its 80-20, then for world series of poker, u would probably see the same people in the final table for 80% of the time. But you dont, recently its all bunch of youngester and not even professional poker players thats making it to the final table.
most of the people who watch helmuth freak out watch it for entertainment, they respect him as a poker great. For those of you here saying he sucks, he has the record for most wsop bracelets hes a good poker player who occasionally does a bad read, funny nonetheless
and if you say this is a game about luck youve never played poker, you are telling a story with your cards and your bets you can win a hand with anything if its played correctly
@sparty007 It depends how you play pal... I've played cash game many times and not had a hand all night, but still ended up winning. It's how you play your opponents. Fucking Idiot.
@sparty007 I dont claim to be good, i'm just saying you can take the element of luck almost completely out of the game, depending on the way you play. I couldnt record even if i did want to haha. I play live.
Let's assume you have AA and someone goes all in before the flop. How do you "take the element of luck out of the game" here? By folding? Because otherwise there's 15% of luck involved. And that's one of the best case scenarios. You can have a set vs. flush draw to be "only" 75% favourite. You can run your KK into somebody's AA or, even worse, a set into a bigger one. Can you eliminate the element of luck in these situations?
@Trias88 I agree those situations you cant eliminate luck, but other times you definitely can. Whether no one has much of anything, or when you know your oppnent has a hand that is better than yours, but you still think you can outplay them. Plus when you do have a hand there is the skill in extracting the most value. Some situations are unavoidable i agree, but others you can take the element of luck out the way.
@k3nny111 Huh? EVERY player has streaks of good and bad luck at times. Or have you not played enough to notice that? And ... ALL MATH ??? Guess you wouldn't have a chance aghainst a computer then.! Now... "Dont talk big about a topic you never really dealt with". LMFAO!
@rfuglesang but he said "ALL MATH" which is just ignorant. Yes it is a mind game to an extent. But if I played the best pool player 100 games of 8 ball I would expect to win a few games as there is a small element of luck involved. But I couldn’t win 1 of 100 against the world Champ in Chess ( no luck involved). In poker assuming the money is no problem... I would expect to win possibly 40 out of 100 (on a bad day, heads-up) as the luck of the draw plays a large role in the out come
First let me just say that Phil, Daniel or any one of those guys at the table could take all my chips in about 3 hands. I suck at poker. But I like watching watching Phil getting his ass handed to him. And I love watching him pout like a tired 3 year old afterwards.
Helmuth is a stonecold pro; he has like 20 bracelets.. But of course random youtube guys are always better. ;-) You know, poker is much more difficult if you dont see the cards everyone has. Should check it out sometime.
yea but phils kicker was garbage and with the ace on the board he should know that daniel isnt much of a bluffer if he had a pair of kings or something like that
I say so much: enter WSOP and go up to the bubble. Then we can talk about questioning the performance of Phil Helmuth. He had his reasons to play that hand this way and he knows Daniel very well. That guy is freaking giant. He has dedicated his whole life to this game.
But ok, lets trashtalk a bit: Daniel declared the raise before the flop came up, and he is known to be capable to do this with squad, especially to mess with Phil.
@k3nny111 "Dedicated his whole life to this game" !!! A game of fucking luck? Dedicated? If thats true then he's an asshole. He "GUESSED" wrong...It is a guessing game. Get it? Good !!!
@MrOlliguitar Sorry have to disagree. There is something all gamblers know. That is that “Streaks” happen. Good and bad. We can argue this ad nauseam. But in an elimination tournament somebody HAS to eventually win. Being in the “lucky chair” has as much to do with winning as any other factor. And in my opinion it is the most important factor.
@MrOlliguitar In a casino game. BJ, Slots or Craps for example. You are playing a game with the odds “SET IN STONE” against you. They are games of “Expected Losses”. Not true gambling but rather “Playing” as opposed to gambling. In theory when you GAMBLE you have at least a chance to make the correct bet and even win over the long run. Not so in any Casino game. The true “Gambler” will win at something like sports betting as opposed to relying on the luck of the draw as in poker.
@ricabel321 i see your point but to me poker is like sports betting then. we just have a different point of view on this. i make profit with poker, not much though but a bit. if i'd let luck decide i would lose definitely.
@MrOlliguitar Fair enough MrO. I respect your opinion. I just don't like the guys who seem to worship at the feet of these so called poker greats. To me they will always be lucky and way over rated.
You just dont know the first thing about poker. Luck has no meaning at the end of the year. The good player wins, the bad one loses. Dont talk big about a topic you never really dealt with.
Phil has run so bad on tv. he is without a doubt the best player with the best reading abilities. if you out flop him hell out bluff you 9 out of 10 times. he would own any single internet wizz kid anyway and you better believe it
@truth3253 Agreed to a certain extent. But Negrenau called his raise with A10 off suit and PH did not think he would call his raise with than AK-AQ or maybe AJ and with that hand Negrenau would not raise in the position. So he put him on a bluff since he did raise. It was a mistake, yes, but every single poker player makes a lot of mistakes and lets not forget PH the worlds best poker player except from maybe Phil Ivey.
Its funny to think that just one hand in this cash game you could lose as much as a solid cash in a tournament event. i wouldve thought hellmuth has already lost all his tournament winnings playing these cash games lol
Transcript: Wow,**** ****in guy reraised me, I didn't ****in think he'd reraise me with ace ****in ten, couldn't ****in put him on that ****in hand, ace ****in ten, couldn't put him on that mother****in hand, he reraised me, I knew he was ****in weak before the flop, that's all I knew, wow, they ****in destroyed me so far these mother****ers, they have no ****in clue in these ****in pots either, it's ****in sick Good hand, Daniel! Good betting!
LMAO.... You're all idiots... this just proves what a purly "LUCK" game poker is. 100% guess work. What if the hand played the same but PH had trips after the flop then he goes all in after DN's 40K ? Would DN call? Don't bother answereing.... it's a coin flip
@ricabel321 Lol number one excuse of the donkey who put $50 online and lost it all playing like an idiot. If it's all luck then why to certain players consistently perform better than others? Just rigged probably right? You whiner, grow up.
@dannymaclamp.... Right...and who wins consistantly? Truth is.... a relatively very small number of people play these high stakes. And of course chance has it that some currently seem better or are currently hotter than others. Do i see you here? .. or are you admittedly a DONK?
@ricabel321 chance doesn't make a guy like Hellmuth win a bunch of tournaments and tons of cash over a 25 year period. I mean give your head a shake and read a book on texas holdem and you'll see how much math and skillful play is involved. It's called a game of imperfect information in game theory, and there is a manner of play which will will lead to a positive outcome over the long-term, and even the short-term too, but especially long. Luck plays a role on a given day only.
@dannymaclamp OMG It's called " a game of imperfect information in a game of theory" Wow oh wow oh golly geezs!!! Who cam up with that nifty expression Einstein?
EVERY hand is luck and there for Luck plays a role on EVERY hand. Get it? Good ! Tell ys what you play 10 games of chess against Viswanathan Anand. I give you 100 to 1 odds and bet he wins all 10 games. Then you play Numbnutz Helmuth 10 hands of poker... Hell I may bet that you win 6. Any argument?
@ricabel321 you sound like such an idiot. But shit man, I mean if you're so sure about that then sign up to an account on some poker website and we'll play 10 000 hands and since it's luck we'll just end up with a 50/50 outcome over that long of a timeframe. It's embarassing really, there's millions and millions of people who play poker and thousands of books written on strategy but one smart ass online is convinced he knows more than all those people. Grow up.
@dannymaclamp Oh BTW...tha odds for it being even after 10,000 hands are about ZERO fool. You know anything about large numbers? If we each had a million $'s in pennies and fliped ( one at a time) eventually one of us would will all of the others pennies...and the winner would be the luckiest ( not the best).
@ricabel321 You choose when to put money in. So I have two Aces preflop and someone else goes all in and it is heads up.. By calling him, I'm making a mathematically correct decision. Because - no matter what he has, I will be about a 4 to 1 favourite to win the hand. So how is that luck? That's nothing other than a completely logical decision, and poker is filled with moments where you need to calculate odds of winning, pot odds, and then make a decision. It's skill.
@dannymaclamp Duh!... I gut dem coupl of ace cards and befor the floop. I thinnk I will caal if the otter guy goez all in !!! Wow you're a grnius ! What is your point?
@ricabel321 hey then I'll make you a deal go on pokerstars and we'll play as many hands as you like and I'll put up $500 if you win, you don't have to put up any cash but when I win I get to have sex with and impregnate your mother and then give you a little brother with my genes so you'll have an influence with a little bit of common sense in your life. Deal?
@dannymaclamp dannydingleberry,...chill , your getting frustrated boy! (Showing your cards (so to say). Sometimes you got to know when to fold 'em. But I'll give you some advice before I leave... "the kiddie table is down the street". Better take your pennies. Bye bye fool.
@ricabel321 but if it's just luck then it doesn't make any difference holding or folding them right? lol. Tell your mom she was wonderful, if you're good I'll take you with us to hte movies next week.
@dannymaclamp Well if I am wrong (and... I am NOT) then it is easy to see you'd suck at poker as you didn't even recognize the nuance when I used the "Fold 'em" expression as I was applying it to our conversation and not the game of poker. Understand? No? Well let's say I "Borrowed" the expression. Clear now? Good!
@ricabel321 and chess is even worse because being a great chess player today is about 90% about being able to memorize opening lines of play out as far as they've been proven as best play. All the Grandmasters will even admit that. That's no fun for anybody, it's not even skill at that point. Poker is a game where you have uncertainties you need to statistically account for and act as such, imperfect information. In Chess, you have all the information.
@dannymaclamp Welll no sense talking to a wall... but Hey! What about my first comment (before you went off on a tangent). What if PH got trips on the flop or played it that way after Dn 40K.... All guessing ..isn't it?
@dannymaclamp and your point here is??? Helmuth doesn't know how to play? By your logic he should have raised and DN would have suspected Trips and folded? Me thinks you need to grow up.
@ricabel321 and listen, that's what top pros do in poker. They don't expect to win each hand, they hope to get an expected value of maybe 1.05, so basically winning 1.05 bets for every 1 that they lose. So that's the difference, it's an extremely fine edge to beat. And people get to that by playing poker according to strategic principles. It's about winning the money, not particular hands. You can lose 9 in a row of $100 and then win 1 of $1000 and you are successful.
@icanadian18 negreanu is really good, but a lot of people dont realize that all the pros are as good as him if not better at reading....negreanu may have the best dead reads, but i suspect he's just one of the only ones that vocalizes it
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All I've EVER seen is bad play like this from Helmutt. He's always running his mouth...giving other players clues to what he's holding...making stoopid over the top bfluffs and even stoopid-ur folds...and it always ends with him ranting. I gotta admit it's fun to watch because he's such a tool! : )
@JephyrX Lol you suck man. He has won 13 mil dollars and is holding the world records for winning most WSOP bracelets. You have seen how many hands of him? 5? 10? Out of actually millions of hands. So just stfu you know nothing about Phil Hellmouth or poker.
@LoveMusic123211 A MILLION hands??? That just shows what a fool you are and have no real grasp of reality. A million sitting at a table in a live game? I doubt it. Maybe on-line and playing multiple tables over a long time... but not live poker
@ricabel321 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... Wow... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Hands don't mean people sitting at a table. A hand is the two cards you get. AA is a hand. AK is hand. 32 is a hand. You understand? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA thx man you really made my day. LOL dont even know what a hand is ^_^
@LoveMusic123211 Yup... you're a fucking idiot. You actually believe he's payed millions of hands while sitting at tables in live games. Hmmm... Even though poker is 99.9 % luck I think I could beat a jerk like you.
@ricabel321 lol... he has played millions and millions of hands in total. When ive played like 2 month in a row 1 or 2 hours a day at a poker site i can see that I have played around 100.000. Phil Hellmouth have played hundreds of tournaments were they play several hours a day and in several days in a row. The WSOP last 7-8 days. Its a fact that he have played millions and millions of hands. Its not something you can argue about. In those millions of hands ITS IMPOSSIBLE not to make mistakes.
@LoveMusic123211 Hmmm...? You’re at the water. Now... How to make you drink? OK How about this? Realistically how many hands would you guess he really plays a day at tables in live games? I’ll cut you some slack and use 7 days a week 8 hours a day! How about 100? That’s 730,000 hands. To reach 1 million he would have to play 140 hands everyday 7 days a week for 20 years. No vacation no trips home, no sick or holidays! Your “Millions” would require a minimum of 274 a day. Not likely! Next!
@LoveMusic123211 Do you have reading comprehension problems fool? I asked how many times the asshole has lasted until the 7th or 8th day. Care to correct yourself? ... or do you need more bitch-slap'in!
@LoveMusic123211 Oh you twisted tool..... You got me so confused that I am questioning myself ! I always thought the WSOP was and is a 1 time a year event. Held to crown the best player of the year in Poker. ( Ha ha ! Best player in the world LOL ) Anyway if he made the final table 45 times then at a minimum he's been playing in it since he was 3 years old! Did he not make the final table when he was 1 & 2 years old?????
@ricabel321 Oh my god. "OK How about this? Realistically how many hands would you guess he really plays a day at tables in live games? I’ll cut you some slack and use 7 days a week 8 hours a day! How about 100?" If you really think you only play 100 hands in 8 hours you are retarded. And you don't even know what WSOP poker is. Oh my god. You know nothing about poker so just stfu.
@ricabel321 and so you see like 5 hands of PH hands were he makes mistakes and think "omg his so bad how can he still have won any chips" but its one of the very few mistakes he has done during his career. Phil Ivey has also made mistakes. Daniel Negrenau. Tom Dwan. All of them. Because its impossible not to. Now stop saying he has only played some thousands hands because he hasn't. Its a fact that he have played millions of hands during his career.
@LoveMusic123211 One more thing Numb-Nutz... Per you "5 or 10 hands out of millions"... Whoever you were trying to educate (BTW...you failed) they probaly have only see 5 or 10 the asshole played out of 50 or so theyshowed on TV. If they showed all his hande the number would probably be in the thousands. Get it? Good !
is that morse code? :D ...btw, the funny part is that now no one cares what does Phil talk about. if he played against someone else he could be complaining about the way played, but against Daniel? he just missed something important.
There's something kind of aspergers-y about the way he narrates his thoughts like that, I'd feel sorry for the guy if it weren't so entertaining to watch him lose money.
phil hates being out of position he checks in the dark acting first so much so his opponent cant read him and that he can in affect take position. such a pussy move
When in doubt play the cards on the table. If I were in Phil's chair i Never would have called on the turn. When you're as confused as he was just be safe and fold so you don't lose your shirt.
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im beein honest here ..i dont care if phill has 11 bracelets ..he's a fckin idiot..he won bracelets back in the day when the fields was so low like 500people ..i see him get mad at hands all the time ..and he wonders why he loses ..how in the hell did he think A4 was good there ..omg ..just fckd 100k down the drain with A4 (Aginst the best player in the world in my opinion DANIEL NEGREANU ) fck hullmuth ..the thing is he can play like but its all ego with him because of his fame .i say fck him
CHELSEAFCBOYYYYY 6 hours ago
im beein honest here ..i dont care if phill has 11 bracelets ..he's a fckin idiot..he won bracelets back in the day when the fields was so low like 500people ..i see him get mad at hands all the time ..and he wonders why he loses ..how in the hell did he think A4 was good there ..omg ..just fckd 100k down the drain with A4 (Aginst the best player in the world in my opinion DANIEL NEGREANU ) fck hullmuth ..the thing is he can play like but its all ego with him because of his fame ..i say fck him
CHELSEAFCBOYYYYY 6 hours ago
Well played phil, donking off 80k with a4 off lol. 'He re raised me with A10, couldnt put him on that f*****g hand'. YOU CALLED HIS RAISE OUT OF POSITION WITH ACE 4 OFFSUIT!!! and he wonders why he loses money in cash games.....
MaxRoboHull 1 day ago
he was weak b4 the flop was he phil?
DARKR3APZ 3 days ago
Phil's more explicit than Pulp Fiction!! Don't give him a gun!!
VicenzoV 4 days ago
phil is kind of like the jerry springer show, lol
poopz 1 week ago
i so love to se hellmuth goin crazy :D
Nuupable 1 week ago
If the played 100 consecutive hands against each other, Daniel wins 90 of them
FACT!
BlackDynamiteNYC 1 week ago
honey , he called my raise with A-4 offsuit honey
flopturnriver411 1 week ago
daniel WINS all the time here, hes an much better player
DARKR3APZ 2 weeks ago
@DARKR3APZ lol actually he doesn't
BlackFeign 1 week ago
lol
epicrandomeshow 2 weeks ago
Just can't get enough of Phil swearing at the end of the hand :))
Aly1981Oradea 3 weeks ago
4:02 " we might have ingnition here" xD ..everybody knows what goes on
schwalbstar 3 weeks ago
players call it read... i call it LUCK. its just hilarious. hellmuth always goes crazy if he looses and the other was not playing HIS way of poker... real kiddie fight again n again.
schwalbstar 3 weeks ago 2
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sloboziarules 3 weeks ago
i think Negreanu knew that Phil didn't have Flush, i'll explain you: Daniel had a flowers ace, and he knew that Helmuth had an ace too, but of another color, so couldn't have more than 4/5 flush
Landoforpresident 3 weeks ago
@Landoforpresident that made me laugh so much, cheers.
T3vans 3 weeks ago
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@Landoforpresident that made me laugh so much, cheers.
T3vans 3 weeks ago
there is to say that it is not easy to read a double pair like that without a pair on the board
Landoforpresident 3 weeks ago
@Landoforpresident its phil fault for calling the raise with weak ace thats all i know
epicrandomeshow 2 weeks ago
Lol hes saying hes bad for playing ace ten when hes playing with ace four what a retard
highwaymaan 3 weeks ago
How is that guy still playing is what i want to know!!! They never.. show him winning LOL He must look better as a loser!!! LOL
jasonliss3173 3 weeks ago
Helmuth is crraaaazzzzzyyyyyyy!!!
r0binson2424 4 weeks ago
hahaha Helmuth gets Pwn3d yet again!!!
kdfrkdfr 1 month ago
phil cant play man i would fold because of flush maybe?????? dudeee...
kosharali44 1 month ago
Two of my favorite players.
Ratoscruvy 1 month ago
once again phil is talking to himself! he should of took his mp3 player out and threw it against the fucking wall and said fuck!! that would of been cool!
lmonto 1 month ago
F this F that F F F, Mother F. Good hand daniel. Good betting.
coffeefusion 1 month ago 38
@coffeefusion I can't believe they even let him do that...he should be banned at this rate. There's gotta be some sort of regulations regarding professionalism where these people play at.
stretchypants123 4 weeks ago
@coffeefusion hahah
arowerlikenoother 2 weeks ago
i think there all drunk and high so obviously something is bound to happen here!
lmonto 1 month ago
Phill Won 11 Wsop, no comments , Negreanu is very talent player, no comments also!
dumecawi 1 month ago
@Da1337DoOD Might not bt 60% of the best players. but there is quite a few pro/really good ones that makes it to the final table. But how often do you see them win a WSOP
sparty007 1 month ago
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sparty007 1 month ago
@sparty007 Finally somebody who apparently plays and isn't afraid or ashamed to admit the relatively large role "Luck" has in the game. Your pointing out the WSOP percentages was great. How often are 8 of the final 10 players ranked even in the top 20? How about neverr ! Thumbs up "Sparty" !
ricabel321 1 month ago
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@aznmigitman1118 Man you need to read my comment, I never said its just a game of luck. I said its a game of 60% kill and 40% luck. if its 80-20, then for world series of poker, u would probably see the same people in the final table for 80% of the time. But you dont, recently its all bunch of youngester and not even professional poker players thats making it to the final table.
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sparty007 1 month ago
most of the people who watch helmuth freak out watch it for entertainment, they respect him as a poker great. For those of you here saying he sucks, he has the record for most wsop bracelets hes a good poker player who occasionally does a bad read, funny nonetheless
and if you say this is a game about luck youve never played poker, you are telling a story with your cards and your bets you can win a hand with anything if its played correctly
aznmigitman1118 1 month ago
@aznmigitman1118 IT is a game of luck you retard. Its 60% skill 40% luck
sparty007 1 month ago
@sparty007 It depends how you play pal... I've played cash game many times and not had a hand all night, but still ended up winning. It's how you play your opponents. Fucking Idiot.
lucassummers1 1 month ago
@lucassummers1 We can all sit around internet and fuking brag about shit we don't have. Unless u recorded it, stfu =)
sparty007 1 month ago
@sparty007 I dont claim to be good, i'm just saying you can take the element of luck almost completely out of the game, depending on the way you play. I couldnt record even if i did want to haha. I play live.
lucassummers1 1 month ago
@lucassummers1
No, you can't.
Let's assume you have AA and someone goes all in before the flop. How do you "take the element of luck out of the game" here? By folding? Because otherwise there's 15% of luck involved. And that's one of the best case scenarios. You can have a set vs. flush draw to be "only" 75% favourite. You can run your KK into somebody's AA or, even worse, a set into a bigger one. Can you eliminate the element of luck in these situations?
Trias88 1 month ago
@Trias88 I agree those situations you cant eliminate luck, but other times you definitely can. Whether no one has much of anything, or when you know your oppnent has a hand that is better than yours, but you still think you can outplay them. Plus when you do have a hand there is the skill in extracting the most value. Some situations are unavoidable i agree, but others you can take the element of luck out the way.
lucassummers1 1 month ago
"he reraised me mith AT" yeah and you called with A4..
Zorro2222222 1 month ago
beeep beeeep beeeeeeep beeeeeeeeeeeep !!!!
hrfasoul 1 month ago 12
That was a clear fold on the river. Not really sure what phil is thinking here, can daniel really 3 barrel a bluff often enough here?
AdolfNewton 1 month ago
RIP Boyle Drunson
getduloh 1 month ago
@getduloh RIP Your Mom
Rex0pas 1 month ago 2
For that matter, there is noch such thing as a "lucky" player. There are lucky situations, but no player is generally lucky. Its all about math.
k3nny111 1 month ago
@k3nny111 Huh? EVERY player has streaks of good and bad luck at times. Or have you not played enough to notice that? And ... ALL MATH ??? Guess you wouldn't have a chance aghainst a computer then.! Now... "Dont talk big about a topic you never really dealt with". LMFAO!
ricabel321 1 month ago
@ricabel321 Well he has a point math is a factor, but i mean its not ALL MATH. I personally believe psychology is a huge factor.
rfuglesang 1 month ago
@rfuglesang but he said "ALL MATH" which is just ignorant. Yes it is a mind game to an extent. But if I played the best pool player 100 games of 8 ball I would expect to win a few games as there is a small element of luck involved. But I couldn’t win 1 of 100 against the world Champ in Chess ( no luck involved). In poker assuming the money is no problem... I would expect to win possibly 40 out of 100 (on a bad day, heads-up) as the luck of the draw plays a large role in the out come
ricabel321 1 month ago 2
dude Phil is such a kid holy fuck. its poker!!!
GixxerEdis 1 month ago
First let me just say that Phil, Daniel or any one of those guys at the table could take all my chips in about 3 hands. I suck at poker. But I like watching watching Phil getting his ass handed to him. And I love watching him pout like a tired 3 year old afterwards.
thebsharps1 1 month ago
Helmuth is a stonecold pro; he has like 20 bracelets.. But of course random youtube guys are always better. ;-) You know, poker is much more difficult if you dont see the cards everyone has. Should check it out sometime.
k3nny111 1 month ago
@k3nny111
yea but phils kicker was garbage and with the ace on the board he should know that daniel isnt much of a bluffer if he had a pair of kings or something like that
directorbeau 1 month ago
@directorbeau
I say so much: enter WSOP and go up to the bubble. Then we can talk about questioning the performance of Phil Helmuth. He had his reasons to play that hand this way and he knows Daniel very well. That guy is freaking giant. He has dedicated his whole life to this game.
But ok, lets trashtalk a bit: Daniel declared the raise before the flop came up, and he is known to be capable to do this with squad, especially to mess with Phil.
k3nny111 1 month ago
@k3nny111 "Dedicated his whole life to this game" !!! A game of fucking luck? Dedicated? If thats true then he's an asshole. He "GUESSED" wrong...It is a guessing game. Get it? Good !!!
ricabel321 1 month ago
@ricabel321 maybe 1 hand is decided by luck... but not a tournament.
MrOlliguitar 1 month ago
@MrOlliguitar Sorry have to disagree. There is something all gamblers know. That is that “Streaks” happen. Good and bad. We can argue this ad nauseam. But in an elimination tournament somebody HAS to eventually win. Being in the “lucky chair” has as much to do with winning as any other factor. And in my opinion it is the most important factor.
ricabel321 1 month ago
@ricabel321 yea but poker has little to do with gambling. except for heads up maybe... that's pretty much 90% gambling.
MrOlliguitar 1 month ago
@MrOlliguitar In a casino game. BJ, Slots or Craps for example. You are playing a game with the odds “SET IN STONE” against you. They are games of “Expected Losses”. Not true gambling but rather “Playing” as opposed to gambling. In theory when you GAMBLE you have at least a chance to make the correct bet and even win over the long run. Not so in any Casino game. The true “Gambler” will win at something like sports betting as opposed to relying on the luck of the draw as in poker.
ricabel321 1 month ago
@ricabel321 i see your point but to me poker is like sports betting then. we just have a different point of view on this. i make profit with poker, not much though but a bit. if i'd let luck decide i would lose definitely.
MrOlliguitar 1 month ago
@MrOlliguitar Fair enough MrO. I respect your opinion. I just don't like the guys who seem to worship at the feet of these so called poker greats. To me they will always be lucky and way over rated.
ricabel321 1 month ago
@ricabel321
You just dont know the first thing about poker. Luck has no meaning at the end of the year. The good player wins, the bad one loses. Dont talk big about a topic you never really dealt with.
k3nny111 1 month ago
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thunderfear 1 month ago
@k3nny111 He has 11 bracelets
thunderfear 1 month ago
@Beefcakes155 No, phucking.
MrCameltoeKiller 1 month ago
Daniel's the man! And a Canadian! : )
guibox3 1 month ago
If you start questioning the poker skills of Daniel Negreanu, you have to start wondering whether you actually deserve those eleven bracelets, Phil!
JNovak92 1 month ago
hellmuth: I knew he was fcking weak before the flop
during the hand: I think you have queens daniel ! lol ?
YoeyMomonari 1 month ago
@YoeyMomonari
exactly. and before the flop he said you might have jacks. he says whatever makes him look best.
trixapete 1 month ago
play against the best and complain when they play great. lmao ok hellmuth
crazy3rdgen 1 month ago
is he even a pro he plays like an amateur he had a shitty hand and calls big bets when he doesnt even feel comfortable with calling what an idiot
nimblenimrod69 1 month ago
can we see a clip of phil winning? ever?
Azbx23 1 month ago
c/c 3 streets with A rag on A high board when someone fires three bullets... And you still call Phil? I mean, wtf?
mattYYYz 2 months ago
i would love to see phil and viktor blom playing heads up :DD
TheCapitainCunt 2 months ago
God he phucking sucks donkey balls.
MrCameltoeKiller 2 months ago
@MrCameltoeKiller fucking*
Beefcakes155 1 month ago
Hey Phil, have you ever heard that song? Its called "You cry like a bitch"!!!!
swords9023 2 months ago
Whenever you hear "Why so much Daniel" you can -= always =- expect the absolute worst play from Hellmuth's part.
AvengerXP 2 months ago
And we have ignition in three, two, one, BEEEEEEP, BEEEEEEP, etc.
AnCoSt1 2 months ago 2
240p... You ruin a great video.
Greatgonzales222 2 months ago
hellmuth's time -> 4:10
ThEpRiDeOFuFc 2 months ago
Phil has run so bad on tv. he is without a doubt the best player with the best reading abilities. if you out flop him hell out bluff you 9 out of 10 times. he would own any single internet wizz kid anyway and you better believe it
chicknheadedhoodrats 2 months ago
Daniel is such a tellbox
eckowezen 2 months ago
idk how this guy is a pro, he plays worse than me and I SUCK!
LtBitter 2 months ago
"Boy, they fucking destroyed me so far these motherfuckers." LOL
robnwk2006 2 months ago
Is this season 1 or 2, I can't remember =|
RustDemon79 2 months ago
the poker brat at his finest..
Omniverse77 2 months ago
hellmuth out play again. best player in the world my ass
truth3253 2 months ago
Why is everyone so critical of Hellmuth? He had a top pair, nobody can get away from such a hand.
glaurung78 2 months ago
@glaurung78 if you cant fold top pair with a shit kicker dont play poker
truth3253 2 months ago
@truth3253 Agreed to a certain extent. But Negrenau called his raise with A10 off suit and PH did not think he would call his raise with than AK-AQ or maybe AJ and with that hand Negrenau would not raise in the position. So he put him on a bluff since he did raise. It was a mistake, yes, but every single poker player makes a lot of mistakes and lets not forget PH the worlds best poker player except from maybe Phil Ivey.
LoveMusic123211 2 months ago
Its funny to think that just one hand in this cash game you could lose as much as a solid cash in a tournament event. i wouldve thought hellmuth has already lost all his tournament winnings playing these cash games lol
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Transcript: Wow,**** ****in guy reraised me, I didn't ****in think he'd reraise me with ace ****in ten, couldn't ****in put him on that ****in hand, ace ****in ten, couldn't put him on that mother****in hand, he reraised me, I knew he was ****in weak before the flop, that's all I knew, wow, they ****in destroyed me so far these mother****ers, they have no ****in clue in these ****in pots either, it's ****in sick Good hand, Daniel! Good betting!
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BigBlue1101 3 months ago
Hellmuth is lucky he made a legacy without facing the likes of dwan etc regularly. He'd be broke in no time if hed just turned pro this year.
freddii89 3 months ago
what a condescending asshole
RoyMunsoned 3 months ago
Hellmuths problem is that he demands respect from other players.
If you don`t play his style, you`re an idiot.
Can`t keep demanding it....
Gotta earn it....
He never does....
Tcbmap 3 months ago
LMAO.... You're all idiots... this just proves what a purly "LUCK" game poker is. 100% guess work. What if the hand played the same but PH had trips after the flop then he goes all in after DN's 40K ? Would DN call? Don't bother answereing.... it's a coin flip
ricabel321 3 months ago
@ricabel321 Lol number one excuse of the donkey who put $50 online and lost it all playing like an idiot. If it's all luck then why to certain players consistently perform better than others? Just rigged probably right? You whiner, grow up.
dannymaclamp 3 months ago
@dannymaclamp.... Right...and who wins consistantly? Truth is.... a relatively very small number of people play these high stakes. And of course chance has it that some currently seem better or are currently hotter than others. Do i see you here? .. or are you admittedly a DONK?
ricabel321 3 months ago
@ricabel321 chance doesn't make a guy like Hellmuth win a bunch of tournaments and tons of cash over a 25 year period. I mean give your head a shake and read a book on texas holdem and you'll see how much math and skillful play is involved. It's called a game of imperfect information in game theory, and there is a manner of play which will will lead to a positive outcome over the long-term, and even the short-term too, but especially long. Luck plays a role on a given day only.
dannymaclamp 3 months ago
@dannymaclamp OMG It's called " a game of imperfect information in a game of theory" Wow oh wow oh golly geezs!!! Who cam up with that nifty expression Einstein?
EVERY hand is luck and there for Luck plays a role on EVERY hand. Get it? Good ! Tell ys what you play 10 games of chess against Viswanathan Anand. I give you 100 to 1 odds and bet he wins all 10 games. Then you play Numbnutz Helmuth 10 hands of poker... Hell I may bet that you win 6. Any argument?
ricabel321 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 you sound like such an idiot. But shit man, I mean if you're so sure about that then sign up to an account on some poker website and we'll play 10 000 hands and since it's luck we'll just end up with a 50/50 outcome over that long of a timeframe. It's embarassing really, there's millions and millions of people who play poker and thousands of books written on strategy but one smart ass online is convinced he knows more than all those people. Grow up.
dannymaclamp 3 months ago
@dannymaclamp Oh BTW...tha odds for it being even after 10,000 hands are about ZERO fool. You know anything about large numbers? If we each had a million $'s in pennies and fliped ( one at a time) eventually one of us would will all of the others pennies...and the winner would be the luckiest ( not the best).
ricabel321 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 You choose when to put money in. So I have two Aces preflop and someone else goes all in and it is heads up.. By calling him, I'm making a mathematically correct decision. Because - no matter what he has, I will be about a 4 to 1 favourite to win the hand. So how is that luck? That's nothing other than a completely logical decision, and poker is filled with moments where you need to calculate odds of winning, pot odds, and then make a decision. It's skill.
dannymaclamp 3 months ago
@dannymaclamp Duh!... I gut dem coupl of ace cards and befor the floop. I thinnk I will caal if the otter guy goez all in !!! Wow you're a grnius ! What is your point?
ricabel321 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 hey then I'll make you a deal go on pokerstars and we'll play as many hands as you like and I'll put up $500 if you win, you don't have to put up any cash but when I win I get to have sex with and impregnate your mother and then give you a little brother with my genes so you'll have an influence with a little bit of common sense in your life. Deal?
dannymaclamp 3 months ago
@dannymaclamp Hmmmm Appears you have thrown in the towel. ( Smart move).
ricabel321 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 you're crazy I issued a challenge, it's up to you to make the next move here, accept or decline.
dannymaclamp 3 months ago
@dannymaclamp dannydingleberry,...chill , your getting frustrated boy! (Showing your cards (so to say). Sometimes you got to know when to fold 'em. But I'll give you some advice before I leave... "the kiddie table is down the street". Better take your pennies. Bye bye fool.
ricabel321 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 but if it's just luck then it doesn't make any difference holding or folding them right? lol. Tell your mom she was wonderful, if you're good I'll take you with us to hte movies next week.
dannymaclamp 3 months ago
@dannymaclamp Well if I am wrong (and... I am NOT) then it is easy to see you'd suck at poker as you didn't even recognize the nuance when I used the "Fold 'em" expression as I was applying it to our conversation and not the game of poker. Understand? No? Well let's say I "Borrowed" the expression. Clear now? Good!
ricabel321 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 and chess is even worse because being a great chess player today is about 90% about being able to memorize opening lines of play out as far as they've been proven as best play. All the Grandmasters will even admit that. That's no fun for anybody, it's not even skill at that point. Poker is a game where you have uncertainties you need to statistically account for and act as such, imperfect information. In Chess, you have all the information.
dannymaclamp 3 months ago
@dannymaclamp Welll no sense talking to a wall... but Hey! What about my first comment (before you went off on a tangent). What if PH got trips on the flop or played it that way after Dn 40K.... All guessing ..isn't it?
ricabel321 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 If he got trips he'd probably reraise because it's a board that does have any flush or straight opportunities on it.
dannymaclamp 3 months ago
@dannymaclamp and your point here is??? Helmuth doesn't know how to play? By your logic he should have raised and DN would have suspected Trips and folded? Me thinks you need to grow up.
ricabel321 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 and listen, that's what top pros do in poker. They don't expect to win each hand, they hope to get an expected value of maybe 1.05, so basically winning 1.05 bets for every 1 that they lose. So that's the difference, it's an extremely fine edge to beat. And people get to that by playing poker according to strategic principles. It's about winning the money, not particular hands. You can lose 9 in a row of $100 and then win 1 of $1000 and you are successful.
dannymaclamp 3 months ago
haha Daniel is laughing...
Speedygi81 3 months ago
lol
TheReimatrix 3 months ago
0:07 Daniel Negreanu the master troll speaks " TROOOLLOOLOLLOLLOL "
ulkord 3 months ago
Nice bet Daniel,
Nice talk Phil.
llpf 3 months ago
hellmuth needs to stop talking especially against negranu who is the best reader in all of poker
icanadian18 4 months ago 6
@icanadian18 negreanu is really good, but a lot of people dont realize that all the pros are as good as him if not better at reading....negreanu may have the best dead reads, but i suspect he's just one of the only ones that vocalizes it
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champions20000009 4 months ago
now wich pixel is daniel again ?
EddieIsak 4 months ago
All I've EVER seen is bad play like this from Helmutt. He's always running his mouth...giving other players clues to what he's holding...making stoopid over the top bfluffs and even stoopid-ur folds...and it always ends with him ranting. I gotta admit it's fun to watch because he's such a tool! : )
JephyrX 5 months ago 18
@JephyrX What?
Djenkov 3 months ago
@JephyrX Lol you suck man. He has won 13 mil dollars and is holding the world records for winning most WSOP bracelets. You have seen how many hands of him? 5? 10? Out of actually millions of hands. So just stfu you know nothing about Phil Hellmouth or poker.
LoveMusic123211 2 months ago
@LoveMusic123211 You sound just like him. Wait a minute! Phil? Is that you, Phil? lol
JephyrX 2 months ago
@JephyrX HE CALLED WITH 75 OFF SUIT HONEY! Idiot guy from northern europe!
LoveMusic123211 2 months ago
@JephyrX Im sorry did you say something?... Oh no im not Phil Hellmouth
LoveMusic123211 2 months ago
@LoveMusic123211 A MILLION hands??? That just shows what a fool you are and have no real grasp of reality. A million sitting at a table in a live game? I doubt it. Maybe on-line and playing multiple tables over a long time... but not live poker
ricabel321 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@LoveMusic123211 Hmmm... Actually you said "millions" which means you are not a fool but actually a fucking idiot. Sorry about that.
ricabel321 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... Wow... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Hands don't mean people sitting at a table. A hand is the two cards you get. AA is a hand. AK is hand. 32 is a hand. You understand? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA thx man you really made my day. LOL dont even know what a hand is ^_^
LoveMusic123211 2 months ago
@ricabel321 This means you are not a fool but actually a fucking idiot. ;)
LoveMusic123211 2 months ago
@LoveMusic123211 Yup... you're a fucking idiot. You actually believe he's payed millions of hands while sitting at tables in live games. Hmmm... Even though poker is 99.9 % luck I think I could beat a jerk like you.
ricabel321 2 months ago
@ricabel321 lol... he has played millions and millions of hands in total. When ive played like 2 month in a row 1 or 2 hours a day at a poker site i can see that I have played around 100.000. Phil Hellmouth have played hundreds of tournaments were they play several hours a day and in several days in a row. The WSOP last 7-8 days. Its a fact that he have played millions and millions of hands. Its not something you can argue about. In those millions of hands ITS IMPOSSIBLE not to make mistakes.
LoveMusic123211 2 months ago
@LoveMusic123211 Hmmm...? You’re at the water. Now... How to make you drink? OK How about this? Realistically how many hands would you guess he really plays a day at tables in live games? I’ll cut you some slack and use 7 days a week 8 hours a day! How about 100? That’s 730,000 hands. To reach 1 million he would have to play 140 hands everyday 7 days a week for 20 years. No vacation no trips home, no sick or holidays! Your “Millions” would require a minimum of 274 a day. Not likely! Next!
ricabel321 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@LoveMusic123211 Oh BTW...How many times has thes tool helmuth lasted 7 or 8 days in the WSOP?
ricabel321 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 He has won the WSOP.
LoveMusic123211 2 months ago
@LoveMusic123211 Do you have reading comprehension problems fool? I asked how many times the asshole has lasted until the 7th or 8th day. Care to correct yourself? ... or do you need more bitch-slap'in!
ricabel321 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 And not only has he won 11 WSOP bracelets. He has reached 45 final tables in WSOP.
LoveMusic123211 2 months ago
@LoveMusic123211 Oh you twisted tool..... You got me so confused that I am questioning myself ! I always thought the WSOP was and is a 1 time a year event. Held to crown the best player of the year in Poker. ( Ha ha ! Best player in the world LOL ) Anyway if he made the final table 45 times then at a minimum he's been playing in it since he was 3 years old! Did he not make the final table when he was 1 & 2 years old?????
ricabel321 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ricabel321 Oh my god. "OK How about this? Realistically how many hands would you guess he really plays a day at tables in live games? I’ll cut you some slack and use 7 days a week 8 hours a day! How about 100?" If you really think you only play 100 hands in 8 hours you are retarded. And you don't even know what WSOP poker is. Oh my god. You know nothing about poker so just stfu.
LoveMusic123211 1 month ago
@ricabel321 and so you see like 5 hands of PH hands were he makes mistakes and think "omg his so bad how can he still have won any chips" but its one of the very few mistakes he has done during his career. Phil Ivey has also made mistakes. Daniel Negrenau. Tom Dwan. All of them. Because its impossible not to. Now stop saying he has only played some thousands hands because he hasn't. Its a fact that he have played millions of hands during his career.
LoveMusic123211 2 months ago
@LoveMusic123211 One more thing Numb-Nutz... Per you "5 or 10 hands out of millions"... Whoever you were trying to educate (BTW...you failed) they probaly have only see 5 or 10 the asshole played out of 50 or so theyshowed on TV. If they showed all his hande the number would probably be in the thousands. Get it? Good !
ricabel321 2 months ago
it'd be kewl if daniel said umadbro?
RunescapePkSociety 5 months ago
@RunescapePkSociety no , that would be super fucking lame
uguysarefried 5 months ago
is that morse code? :D ...btw, the funny part is that now no one cares what does Phil talk about. if he played against someone else he could be complaining about the way played, but against Daniel? he just missed something important.
duklaak 5 months ago
gabe kaplan is a legend,, 'PHIL LOOKED A LITTLE SILLY IN THAT HAND AND WE MIGHT HAVE IGNITION HERE' lol..fuckin hillarious!:-)
balconyboy22 5 months ago 4
mmmm i wonder if jack nicholson can afford 2k a game -thats like 100k a year
cardigan3000 5 months ago
I like how after all that cussing hes like "Good hand man"
wavemotionburn 5 months ago
There's something kind of aspergers-y about the way he narrates his thoughts like that, I'd feel sorry for the guy if it weren't so entertaining to watch him lose money.
reluctable 6 months ago
phil hates being out of position he checks in the dark acting first so much so his opponent cant read him and that he can in affect take position. such a pussy move
marshallbrooks1 6 months ago
shouldn't a tip off for phil be the large stack of chips that daniel has
darius595 6 months ago
first time i see daniel negreanu with that amount of chips
Zorron3211 6 months ago
Barry Greenstein thinkings *god why the hell i always gotta sit next 2 the retard*
riffdex69 6 months ago 4
A 4... lol
riffdex69 6 months ago
When in doubt play the cards on the table. If I were in Phil's chair i Never would have called on the turn. When you're as confused as he was just be safe and fold so you don't lose your shirt.
COLUMBINE1818 6 months ago
Thats not crazy to me
sissisammakko 6 months ago
I think Phil took the 10k bet before the flop too seriously as weakness
schoolboyGETxIT 6 months ago 2
100-200 grand to Jack Nicholson spent every year on the Lakers... He can afford that, and he loves it.
rickybobby5150 6 months ago