For anyone who is watching this, Remember we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, But Jesus gave us a way out of Hell, Come to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness of your sins, Jesus died on the cross for all of our sins and when we become a Christian and are born again, We can start fresh and our old ways are washed away, Sin will lead you into Hell for ever, But if you ask for forgiveness from Jesus you will be cleaned, God bless all who read this, Get to know Jesus Christ...
Thank You Jesus for this ministry, it is all of our jobs as Christians to share the gospel with a hurting, confused,& lost world. Kirk and Ray our awesome examples of Christians who are truly fulfilling the commandment which Jesus gave: Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel. We need to use the law to show them they are guilty of breaking the holy law of God. And the only way to escape punishment for breaking the law is to understand what Jesus did for them and for them to accept Him.
Kee-shayne...YOU ROCK, but GOD rocks more! and man BROTHER CAMERON is so right, believe in the LORD, he loves u with an everlasting LOVE, u r his child, u r intelligent and your heart is so in the right place, GOD bless you, and your walk with CHRIST , he is your LORD AND YOUR SAVIOR, things may get hard but he will ALWAYS be there for you add me on facebook if u want, jennifer poewell, montreal canada! JOHN 3:16-17..I HAVE A CHRITIAN GROUP THERE IF U WANT TO JOIN..GOD BLESS U XOXO
@JenniferPowell0 Hey Jennifer. From your testimony I can see that you are a Christian. I just wanted to ask you a very serious question. If you believe God, than why do you and most Christians disrespect him so much?
all you guys( the guy from growing pains and Ray Comfort) does is prey on everyday people who aren't so knowledgeable of the sctiptures and you tell them they are going to hell for not following the commandment, and that they are liars, thieves and murderers because at one point in there lives they have lied about something or stolen or hated someone, what about grace according to Paul, do you believe that observing the law( 613 total) will get you to heaven?, it wont because its works.
@zipitup75 The grace of God is enough to save through FAITH ALONE. I don't agree with the "two things you need for eternal life" theology. In fact I think it's dangerous b/c it only gives Jesus Christ half the credit and becomes a works based salvation (no matter how much they say it doesn't). Instead, according to Paul, repentance is evidence of salvation... not a sinless life, we'll never get there. If your lifestyle doesn't change after being saved, you may want to check your sincerity.
@cdklassen2 i've always be a repentant person even before i knew anything about jesus, i cant even bring myself to hurt another person now, i dont have it in me, and it aggravates me when anyone says to me, you are a good person, because i dont believe that, i could never kill another person and feel no remorse or guilt for it, i just wanna know more about Jesus, and the father and Paul's letters makes alot more sense than the other apostles, its more thought out.
@zipitup75 Jer. 29:13 "And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart." God bless you on your search for Jesus. Most people take that search for granted, myself included. Salvation isn't based on a single prayer (though that could be the beginning), but a lifetime relationship. The more you get to know Him/His Word, the more you will realize how much you need Him just to get through the day. Then you're on the right path. Stay humble my friend.
@zipitup75 Ray Comfort is a wonderful man, God bless him and his ministry, but telling Christians (who sin like everybody else) that they are false converts is dangerous because it destroys the very thing that will save them... their faith in the power of Jesus Christ... and their trust in His power to save. We will never escape sin. In fact Christians struggle with it even more than non-Christians because we are more conscious of it. Christians are not sinless except in the eyes of God.
Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to heaven. What an amazing story. God is so merciful he paid your debt! The judge paid your fine, a fine you couldn't pay in a million years. All you need to do is accept his mercy BEFORE the court date. TURN TO JESUS CHRIST before it's too late. When your body expires it's too late.
@cdklassen2 if the debt is paid in full, the sin of unbelief should be covered by the blood too, paul said its by grace we are saved so that no man may boast, jesus is the end of the law according to the apostle Paul, so how can God convict someone for breaking a law that is no longer in effect, yes we can do bad things still but the yoke of the law is lifted, when Christ was on the cross we were hanging there with Him and we died and rose again in Him, according to Paul
@zipitup75 The bible is very clear that faith in Jesus Christ as Lord is our only hope of redemption of sin. Please keep in mind that God never commanded us to believe, we are free to believe, we are free not to. Disbelief is not a sin, nor will it convict you... it is your sin that convicts you. Jesus said that no one comes to the Father but by Him. Faith = righteousness ("not guilty") = eternity in heaven with Him. Disbelief = damnation = eternal torment in hell without Him. God bless.
@cdklassen2 you controdict yourself because unbelief is the same as disbelief and if unbelief is not a sin why does it equals hell and damnation? i never could get this, we believe that jesus wiped every sin away by His blood and the cross yet people are still talking about going to hell, how can it be true that our saviour destroyed sin yet we still say we sin? if sin is dead how can we repent of something that is no more unless jesus died for some sin and not all
@zipitup75 Faith in Jesus Christ is the only way to protect yourself from God's judgement... "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" and therefore we all deserve eternal punishment. But God is "not willing that any should perish" so He sent His son to live a perfect life and to die in our place. There is no contradiction. It's very clear, Christ gave His life so that "whosever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." No faith, no redemption. God bless.
@cdklassen2 i disagree, no one deserve eternal punishment not even Hitler im not asking you to agree with me or not, yes we all sinned by association with Adam and Eve but it was not our fault, paul said through Adam death reigned even over those who have not sinned, Jesus said it was finished meaning the devil is done sin is done, but the other apostles still wrote about sin and the devil, they went against Paul and the gospel he recieved which was of grace not works, there is two gospels
@zipitup75 I too have struggled with this in my feeble human mind. But God's ways are not our ways... and even the best of our deeds, without Him, are like filthy rags in His eyes. There is only one gospel... and that is the grace of God through the sacrifice of His son Jesus Christ. Please know how painful that would be... killing your only (perfect) son to rescue a world of ungrateful people who blaspheme you. But He did, and death is overcome for those who believe. The rest is up to us.
All this repenting and reading the bible sounds like hard work. Cant I just die in glorious combat and dine with the Gods and fellow warriors in Valhalla? That sounds a lot more fun then worshiping some tribal desert god for eternity.
@bigdaddyaen: You just go to a building, pray, etc, read your bible. Think about it. Is it REALLY that hard to take time to pray a little? It's not difficult. Sure you could just die...but that hurts. Wouldn't you want to die knowing it's not over? (; and you'll be forever with a God and people who love youu. It's better then thinking "oh..life..you just live and turn to dust." How boring is that? then everyone should just die if there's no meaning to jobs, love, etc.
Religious people are looking to much to the 'next life' and what it promises.
Religion is a form of mind control made by the hand of humans interpretation.
Research how far we have come in knowledge on ourselves, our brain. And how marketing/advertising companies uses the same promises.
The band frankie goes to hollywood, 'the power of love' is all time. Learn to love yourself, forgive yourself and behave as a human being, not a human doing.
Kirk says that the ninth commandment says that we should not lie. As a matter of fact it says not to "bear false witness AGAINST your neighbor".
While that may be interpreted in many ways, I think it's most likely to mean that we should not say untruthful things about other people. They key phrase being "against thy neighbor".
As to why God would create beings with Free Will,knowing they would do wrong- He WANTS people to Love Him,but Love can ONLY happen by CHOICE,so He HAD to allow Free Will. As to the negative consequences for failure- that is just the way it is;much as fire and water don't mix,nor do light & darkness. BUT,God provided a Way out of that predicament. Again,we have Free Will about that, too. Those who admit their lost condition,&trust God for His solution, will be saved. The rest CHOOSE to stay lost.
About God "sending" people to hell... It is more like He's GRANTING a lifelong wish to those who wanted nothing to do with God all their lives...
We don't know a lot of details about Heaven or Hell, but I see them like this: Heaven is a place where God's "essence" (presence, or what-have-you) IS, while Hell is a place where God IS NOT.
The problem is, "all GOOD things descend from above" (where God IS); but there will be NO good things in Hell, 'cause it is removed from God's presence!
That is so uplifting. We're in Florida and working on preaching the gospel as well. The point is to see that you and I are Sinners, and that we cannot pay the wages of sin which is death. We must believe in Christ and that he paid that debt with his pure and holy life so that we may live for eternity with him. And Jesus' commandments is to Love our Father and One another as ourselves. GOD BLESS AMEN!!
I like what he does, no matter if religion is the case he puts these people thinking about the things he they have done and makes them rethink what they have done.
Accept Jesus into your life and love everyone. You can NOT do enought "good" deeds to get into heaven. There is no standard...no # to reach....seek forgiveness for your sins, turn away from those sins forever....let the spirit live within you.
You can do this with your last gasp of breath on this earth....and you will be accepted. Just do it.
I'm a Christian, and I think this is ridiculous. Kirk has missed the whole point of Christianity. I don't need someone telling me I'm a bad person and need to be a good kid, I just need to know that I'm not alone and how I can know true love and righteousness. Not this.
@LetOurLittleLadyTalk Actually this is not all about love.Jesus did not come primarily to teach us love and good morals.He came that we might come to know the Living God. People need to be shown that they deserve Hell so that they could see the need of a Savior otherwise the good news would not be good news for them b/c they would not know they're in need of a Savior, they would not know they live in offense to the one who made them and are under his wrath if not in Christ
@LetOurLittleLadyTalk this is not about making bad people good,it is about making dead people alive.For is one is not in Christ, they are spiritually dead, not just bad. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation for everyone who believes and Christ is the only one who can bring us to the Father.Blessed is the man whose sins are forgiven! This is not about us, feeling good, or learning how to love.It is about God and what he has done through His Son for his glory.
Tell KIRK, that all sins are forgiven by Christ's shed blood. Jesus' NEW COVENANT makes the OLD LAW (MOSAIC) Obsolete. The wage's sin pays is death. Once we die we've paid for all of our wrongs. Thank you
This is the stupid "logic" that theists use. Whether I'm willing to do something does not determine the reality of the world. Whether there "should" be morals doesn't mean they actually exist.
Not saying religion is a bad thing. I once heard a quote "I would have killed many times if not for God to stop me." Some people need religion to fit into society. Religion protects me from psychopaths. Doesn't mean it's real, though.
@Yiroep4 maybe a better way of saying it is, it's more logical to believe there's life after death than not to. There's no proof of life after death, all we have is evidence. When there is no "proof" the only evidence we can see if from people's experiences. When we take into account people's experiences with the afterlife eg ghosts and spirits. The evidence points to some sort of afterlife. To think otherwise is Blindly illogical.
What concrete evidence is there to point to the fact that there is an afterlife? Has anything like this been spotted on camera in a way that is completely conclusive?
The fact is that this evidence is not concrete as it relies on people's truthfulness as well as their awareness with their surroundings.
Another point I want to make is that even if an afterlife exists, does that still point to a god's existence? The two are still independent.
@Yiroep4 You still don't understand at all. If there was concrete evidence for afterlife, we wouldn't be talking about this at all would we? You can't say everything in 500 chars because you keep stating the OBVIOUS in most of your message - we all know there's no concrete evidence! And I didn't even talk about God. Your reply was 1. Restating the obvious 2. Making an irrelevant statement about God and afterlife that I didn't even mention to begin with.
Point 1, however, needed to be said. You said someone would be "blindly illogical" to think there is no afterlife. Without concrete evidence, I don't see what's so "blindly illogical" about that.
I don't believe in ghosts and spirits. I think that this phenomenon that people see or hear ghosts can be explained from a psychological standpoint, rather than actually being real.
@thewayofthemaster Yes. Because if there is a god, and I am his creation, and he truly loves me but is willing to send me to hell for eternal punishment and torture regardless of how terrible my actions are , It certainly isn't a god I want to be associated with. I know that if a family member of mine does wrong by me, I forgive them because no one is perfect. If a 'perfect' being cannot forgive imperfection, he can stay away from me. He sounds like a tyrant and a sadist.
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o Considering you don't talk to Him (prayer), you don't daily read His Word (the Bible), you reject His offer of reconciliation (Jesus), and you don't even believe He actually exists, I wouldn't place too much trust in your assessment of His character. Is it possible you could be mistaken?
No, I am familiar with the words of your holy book. Your god endorses slavery (Lev 25: 44-46); the killing of homosexuals(Lev 20: 13), disobedient children (Lev 30: 9) and women who are not virgins on their wedding night (Deut 22: 13-31). Just to name a few. You and I are more morally perfect than god because I know you are a good person, and no good person would think these actions are for good.
@thewayofthemaster Let me ask a simple question. Do you have any children? If you do, would you ever send them to eternal punishment and damnation for disobeying one of your requests?
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o That's not a valid comparison and you forgot the part where God offers a way for forgiveness of sins. You reject the Savior who would save you from your punishment on the grounds that you don't like your punishment. Why would you do that?
@thewayofthemaster You didn't answer the question. Is there anything that a loved one of yours could do to you that would lead you to send them to an eternity of pain and suffering?
You didn't answer my question. Is there anything that a loved one of yours could do that would cause you to send them to an eternity of pain and suffering. Answer the question.
@thewayofthemaster It's a perfectly valid comparison because it is the same kind of relationship. As a pastors son Ive heard all of your car salesman arguments and none of them hold water. Not a one.
Free will at the end of a loaded gun is not free will at all. If your imaginary god says to you "worship me or go to hell and burn forever" that is not free will. That is slavery.
Christianity, The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you eat his flesh, drink his blood and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree....
@thewayofthemaster You're right, it's not a valid comparison. However, you have not proven that there is a heaven or hell. And the burden of proof lies on you, seeing as how you are declaring the existence of something that has no evidence aside from an ancient tomb written by a bunch of desert people two thousand years ago. By the way, the bible's location of heaven was changed when we discovered what was beyond the sky. I guess god miss-spoke.
@Hoboninja1000 You make good points. However, you misspeak when you say "the burden of proof lies on you". There is no burden. A Christian's burden is to simply share the gospel, not be burdened with proving the existence of heaven or hell. Regarding location of heaven, what changed? I'm not saying you are wrong, I have just never heard that. Would love to hear where in the bible it was changed (location of heaven). Would you mind elaborating....I like to learn these things. Thanks.
@fletchdrebon Christians used to look at the world like a three layer cake-there is the earth, the sky, and heaven above that. Once we discovered there was no heaven above the sky that went out the window. And yes, there is a burden of proof. If you want to share the gospel you're not doing it well if you can't convince people what you're saying isn't horse radish. I'd love to discuss this with you more however we are clogging the comment section with all of this text. friend req to cont conv?
@Hoboninja1000 Okay, I see what you are saying about how some Christians used to look at where heaven might be. I had never heard that. I always assumed it was an expression. I disagree there is a burden of proof. Christians aren't trying to sell anything (well...some are!). If I were to share the gospel with some1, I don't feel obligated to prove anything. Only share what I believe. God ultimately changes hearts (IMO). Sure..send friend invite...I'm not sure how. Thanks brother.
Besides, it is a completely fair comparison. Additionally, would you like to explain your god's teachings on slavery, and punishment of child rebellion. I sure hope that a being with those standards doesn't judge me.
Why would an all-knowing god create a race with free will, knowing that they would break his rules, in which the result is eternal punishment and damnation? Why would this loving being do this? If you think about it, there is no justifiable answer.
@thewayofthemaster you are only talking about a book,so why would anyone place any trust in what you have to say,or anyone who believes in any god around the world for that matter...it's called a support group and you just happen to involved in one of the biggest around,and scientifically it's called the God Gene,you guys get a high when you all commune together about the same deity and it's a proven fact..alot of people don't have the god gene,they would be called atheists
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o God is NOT willing to punish you. Leaving Him was your free decision. God is NOT the tyrant and sadist who prevents you from coming back to Him... Every sin can be forgiven if the sinner humbles himself to regret it honestly. Imperfection is not a sin. It is human to sin, but it is satanic to neglect and justify our sins, instead of admiting and regretting them, instead of truly accepting our imperfection...
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o He's already forgiven you by dying in your place. You just have to accept the free gift. People choose not to accept it because they enjoy a lie more than the truth, because a lie helps a person sin without feeling guilty. Don't think that you must become perfect to be saved, but that you believe in Jesus (who mastered God's perfect Law in your place) to be saved. There is so much to learn, but you have to start with belief that Jesus is the Son of God to understand the rest
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o I noticed how you said "If a 'perfect' being cannot forgive imperfection, he can stay away from me." but Jesus Christ being perfect died so that he could forgive our imperfection and thus he will save us from Hell and he will allow us to come to him if we repent of our sins and respond to him in love and humility. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I'm willing to help however possible.
@scottwolfe92 According to 1st Peter the lord created a way for salvation before the establishment of the earth( before the earth and adam and eve was created) so with that said Adam and Eve was destined to sin, because if they had not sin then God's plan for salvation would be in vain, we are not imperfect because we chose to be, we did nothing wrong, Adam and eve sinned not us, and now we are paying for their transgressions i dont believe that is fair at all
@zipitup75 Yes, we are paying the penalty for sin, because of Adam and Eve and our human nature, but not because of God. Adam and Eve had a choice to not eat from the apple. God told them not to eat from the tree of Good and Evil, but they did because Satan decieved them. Same thing with us, when we are decieved we can either listen to God or follow the deception and pay the consequences for it Even though they sinned, It is through Jesus Christ we are forgiven for ALL our sins, and we are saved
@zipitup75 Yes, we are paying the penalty for sin, because of Adam and Eve and our human nature, but not because of God. Adam and Eve had a choice to not eat from the apple. God told them not to eat from the tree of Good and Evil, but they did because Satan decieved them. Same thing with us, when we are decieved we can either listen to God or follow the deception and pay the consequences for it Even though they sinned, It is through Jesus Christ we are forgiven for ALL our sins, and we are saved
@zipitup75 Yes, we are paying the penalty for sin, because of Adam and Eve and our human nature, but not because of God. Adam and Eve had a choice to not eat from the apple. God told them not to eat from the tree of Good and Evil, but they did because Satan decieved them. Same thing with us, when we are decieved we can either listen to God or follow the deception and pay the consequences for it. Though they sinned, It is through Jesus Christ we are forgiven for ALL our sins, and we are saved
@thewayofthemaster if there is heaven and hell, god and lucifer do exists, how come my father suffered on his dead bed? i was with him for two weeks straight and he was suffering for two weeks completely in pain, no morphine or painkillers, just lying there waking up every ten minutes in pain. he had throat cancer, he had to eat liquid food and could only drink out of a straw. he was a caring man, he gave up everything for me; and yet he was the one suffering in agony for 6 months. merciful much
@thewayofthemaster Bet what life?? that is the source and fact why religion survives..you threaten people with eternal damnation,and so the sheep follow and pay up..if there is a hell you r the ones who will burn,for the terrorism of the mind you perform,TRUE ENLIGHTENMENT is discovering that no man knows what happens when we die...and that is the ultimate fact..
@thewayofthemaster Absolutely! Just like millions of other Christians have. Take the Spanish Inquisition for example where true Christians were given a chance to recant their faith in Jesus as the Son of God, the only way to salvation, or be burned alive at the stake. The fact that they would do anything for the Savior who bought them should tell you something.
I can do nothing to save "we" - all I can do is save "me" or "I". I can tell you what I believe and you can listen or not - your choice. It's God's way or not - period! If God really does exist (like I know He does) you better figure out what He REALLY expects of you - I doubt it's "...every religion is the same." You can make your own God if you want but it doesn't change the one and true God and it doesn't change what He expects of us.
@xsuinx...No your incorrect in saying "every religion is saying the same thing". First all "religion" is man made = traditions, man made rules/regs, denominations, sects etc. Relationship is based on faith and faith alone. Second Christianity stands alone in that it teaches that there is ONE God and ONE way to Him and that is through His Son Jesus Christ. St John 14:6 I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE: NO man comes to the Father but by me. A clear distiction.
@eyezwideopen1 This kind of there is only one way, my way or the highway has landed us in trouble. Look at what is going on in some muslim countries - no respect for other views leading to lots of killings. I suppose u live in a democracy where diff views are celebrated & respected. yet ur religion teaches the opposite? Backward religions with primitive ideas fit for a medieval times when kings ruled.
@eyezwideopen1 Also if we take eternity as 100 yrs, let's do the math & ask what would that make 70 odd yrs of human life? A half second? or 1/10th of a second? So u are telling me based on this 1/10th of a second, i go to either heaven or hell for eternity? Does that sound logical? Again what is 1/10th of a second? So basically human life is pointless & meaningless. It's ALL about the after life & how do I get there?
@eyezwideopen1 You guys continiueally focus on, what I think, is the inimportant 'message' of christianity. Jesus never said to go out and make borg drones of people, he asked people to help teach others to become good and decent human beings. He was a man with a great idea, a great teacher. Christian values aren't bad, but you get so caught up in the witnessing that alot of you become freakin' hypocrits and awful awful people in the process! Wake up!
Its not about religeon it's about the relationship. And those who just get saved and dont live there life for christ will surely be left here to go through the Great Tribluation
@Laqueyhornet That is not biblical because according to the Bible, all those who get saved will live for Christ. Read 1 John, it says if we claim to know him yet do not keep his commands we are LIARS and the truth is not in us. If someone has really been born-again, their life and manner of living will be changed and God will finish the good work he began in them and lead them in sanctification.Those who claim to be Christian yet bear no fruit only show they are false converts.
Kirk is the one who needs to wake up. The bible has been proven to be false on every important aspect, and putting your crimes on an innocent human sacrifice makes YOU EVIL, it does not save you from anything. Pile on top of it pretending to eat the flesh of the dead human sacrifice and drinking his blood...KIRK! WAKE UP! Its not 345AD, its the 21st century! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
Do you keep the ten commandments? You know that working on a saturday is a mortal sin, and the punishment is death by stoning, then eternal punishment in hell, dont you? Hey! Where are you going? What about lying? the punishment for lying is death by stoning, then eternal punishment in hell!
I always feel uncomfortable when I see this stuff....and no, it's not because it's 'resonating' with me about god's word or anything...it's just conversion always seemed wrong to me. Even when I was a christian, it seemed very wrong. Who are we to judge?
@Laqueyhornet I know what it is. I was raised in that sect. It's still wrong. Do you know how many mistranslations there are in the bible? Do you know that it wasn't Jesus' intention to even START a religion? The man had a good idea, and good teachings. Not everyone agree's with it, and that's perfectly fine. They are still good people, learning to live as decent human beings.
Ten commandments story is also mistranslated. Man has altered the so called 'word of God.' It's unreliable.
@XSuicuneX They're not judging! We've all fallen short of being "good" and are therefore condemed to death. They're only pointing out the fact that we ARE ALL condemed to death unless we've been washed clean by the blood of Christ so we'll be able to stand before a "good" god. We all sin - they're not judging - they're just pointing out that we're not as "good" as we think we are and that we all need to be cleaned or we WILL go to hell.
@AmeKeaka I want to be nice to you, because you seem like one of the evangelical types who actually care about the people you talk to. But, nothing I say is going to get through to you. Your teachings have been so deeply injected into your brain that you won't hear anything else that isn't filtered through your 'trained' mind. I mean this in the nicest way possible, I was from where you sound to be from.
Don't be afraid to explore, that's all I can say. Perhaps one day your mind will be open
@XSuicuneX I really do care - thanks. I am very open minded and that's why I found the truth - in the bible. I just want everyone to read the bible for themselves like I did. I see the gift (grace) Jesus gave all of us and I think it's so awesome I want everyone to know it's there for the asking. Religion tries to control people - the words of Jesus in the bible set you free! There's no better feeling than to be free from the empty feeling those in the world try to escape. Jesus came to save.
@AmeKeaka People can be set free by any message that speaks to them. You've found 'your' calling, let others find theirs in their own way. Your religion has just as many chains and locks as others do, if it's used in the wrong way. If you look at others, every religion and every 'path' is basically saying the same thing. They have people saying their way is the 'right' way as well.
All faiths have a bit of truth to them, none is the true path.
@XSuicuneX Telling someone who's standing on a train tressell that they need to get off the track because a train's coming and they'll die if they don't get off the track isn't judging that person for being on the track even though it's illegal. It's just telling the person that the situation he's in is going to kill him unless he listens to reason. It's the same here - people need to know they're not as "good" as they think they are and they're going to hell unless they come to Jesus -period
God created man in his own image (Genesis 1:27), but we can't look at women with lust (Matthew 5:28)?? Isn't it innate behavior to do such? Then why would God create this within us if he didn't want us to use it? I'd probably get "it's a test" response from christians, but that's such a cop-out.
@ramirosan145 I still have lustful thoughts when I see a pretty girl even though I'm married. Since I've accepted Jesus into my heart and have started to read my bible every day I find myself stopping myself from continuing to look and also stop myself from entertaining the lustful feelings that initially come to mind. It gets better and better the longer I stay in the word. You want a "test"? Read your bible, believe in Jesus and see if He doesn't change your heart too!
Karma & Rebirth means that Hindus don’t run away from problems. We face them, we fight them, we solve them.
Karma & Rebirth means that even though we could have run away, we Hindus chose to Stay & make things Right.
Karma & Rebirth means a Hindu’s goal is Moksha – An Enlightenment of the Mind & the Heart. Heaven is about bodily pleasures - sex, food & drink – a cheap goal.
Karma & Rebirth means that We are the Builders of our Society, our World
@ramaraksha01 You said some things that make me wonder if you are familiar with christian beliefs... For example, you spoke about bodily pleasures in heaven?
@mikeyjwest Not exactly. There are Hindus who believe in heaven & hell. Their version might be diff from urs. Though i am not too sure that urs is that much different. Anything that can be begged for or given can't be any good. The only worthwhile thing is something that is EARNED. Moksha - Enlightenment, knowledge - is always EARNED - that is why it is the higher goal, that is why we have so many lives.
@ramaraksha01 I like this idea better then the "You can't reach heaven through good works, Jesus is the only way. Why attempt to fight a loosing battle when you can get a free ride from your best friend Jesus! *wink*"
It always seemed like a copout to me...if we're meant to be good people and an example to the world...why are we given the keys to heaven? Where's the motivation to become better? You're saved already. Have 'fun'.
@XSuicuneX You sound like one of those brain-washed Jahovah's witnesses. If you had an open mind instead of a brain-washed mind you'd understand the truth. First you're saved and you gain your eternal salvation - THEN you do good works as you grow in the word becasue you see (if your mind is open and not poluted by the watchtower) what a wonder gift God has given us. I pray for you - I have a JW friend who is starting to see the truth - and the lies of the Watchtower. Let Jesus in ur heart!
@AmeKeaka How dare you claim that the JW have it wrong? I'm not a JW but from what I know of them they are a group who're just trying to do the same thing that everyone else on this world is trying to do, they're trying to live their life and be decent human beings in the process. You call them 'brain-washed' ...well, I may agree with you, but they at least make an effort to 'study' the bible. (at lest the good ones do)
Who's to say you're not the brain-washed one yourself?
@XSuicuneX sorry for the late reply. I totally agree - this is just a religion trying to gain converts - they make easy promises - join us & off u go to heaven. yay! not convinced? here come the threats. Just using a carrot & stick method or a good cop, bad cop method. Unfortunately it has worked for them, so they will continue to use it as long as there are guillible people.
We Hindus believe the only thing God cares about is ur Character, nothing else matters.
@ramaraksha01 It was actually the Hindu religion that got me to open up my eyes. Technically it as a song...what's it called....the kind that you sing one phrase and a group of people repeat it...anyways, music is the most important thing to me now, and it's what got me out of that brainwashed mindset that the 'circle' of many fundie christians are in. I like alot of the idea's of Hinduism, and I agree with alot of what they believe in.
@XSuicuneX Religion doesn't matter to us Hindus. For God Rama only character matters. A Good Atheist is closer to God Rama than even a Good Hindu, so says this Hindu.
The only thing is that I do believe that ALL Hindus will be reborn. Karma & Rebirth ask us to Stay & Fight for a better earth. Every other religion teaches how God is going to take such nice care of them, Hinduism asks us to earn Praise FROM God! Earth will be a heaven based on our effforts & we Hindus are ready to make that cotd
@XSuicuneX happen. It's like the fort is being attacked - diseases, kooky dictators, global warming etc - & Hindus are asked to rush to the front. Others are one-and-done, after this life, they take a seat, they become spectators. Only Hindus are blessed to walk in the footsteps of Gandhiji, Mother Teresa & the like, their sacrifices won't go in vain. We won't quit mother earth, we will stay & fight.
@ramaraksha01 actually even when I was a christian I always believed that, even during the 'end times' I would beg God to let me come back down to help. I kinda even felt that reincarnation could happen even for christians. If we wanted to, God would let us have life again. I would even stand at the gates of heaven and refuse to go in if certain people important to me wouldn't get in themselves.
I still feel that desire. I dont' want 'heaven' I want to keep returning. It's who I am.
@XSuicuneX well there's a bit more in Hinduism than just keep coming back. There is a goal - Moksha - Knowledge, Enlightenment. This is why we keep coming back as well as to repay any debts that we may have left behind.
The concept of heaven defies logic - say a child dies. She would go to heaven right? So then the more u live, the more u get closer to hell. So the best thing to do is to die early. Human life then becomes pointless.
Hell of course is the sickest, vile, horrible concept ever
@ramaraksha01 Oh, I know about those other goals. *nods* I did some research when I looked into it. Personally I'm not after enlightenment, I just wanna come back and help people. That's all I want.
Actually I think in previous christian beliefs if the child was unbaptized they would go to hell as well. Or Purgatory. I don't know if it was soley a catholic thing or not. Still kinda fucked up.
I believe that we create our own hell. The greatest hell is in your mind...or so I heard once.
@XSuicuneX sorry for the late reply - u are echoing the thoughts of Gandhiji, the man i admire most in this world - i desire neither heaven nor Moksha were his words. In Hinduism character is the only thing that counts - a Good Atheist is closer to God Rama than even a Good Hindu, so says this Hindu. what a contrast to this person on this board who keeps trying to scare peple into joining her religion.
We Hindus say come to God because u want to. Do Good(God) because it is the right thing to do
@ramaraksha01 That's actually really interesting, since I've never read or heard about that person. (I don't think at least...) I also prefer character over what you 'claim' to be. I think God does too. I don't think he really minds if you're christian or not, so long as we do what we're meant to do, and are good people.
@XSuicuneX Once u go down the road saying that religion matters - then u end up with a god who will be running a segregated heaven, that's just sick. If character doesn't matter then a good man ends up in hell but a pedophile, murderer gets heaven? Not a heaven that i would like to visit. These are just proselytizers scaring people into converting to their religion - unfortunately they have been successful with this tactic so they will continue to use it.
Heaven: Sex, food, drink - a place for bodily pleasures. Win the lottery & u can have them all right here on earth. No qualification necessary, heaven can be begged for or given.
Moksha: An awakening of the Mind & Heart - to be able to think like Gandhiji or Einstein, to be able to compose music like Mozart, to be able to sing like MS(Indian singer) etc.
Moksha is always EARNED, can never be begged for nor given. This is the goal of all Hindus
@ramaraksha01 Hmmm...what about the people who already have these gifts and already feel the desire to keep coming back and help their fellow human? Those who have great compassion and great gifts. Have they already achieved Moksha and just decided to come back and live a human life?
I'm just curious. Personally I just already feel the desire to come back, I just have challenged with getting off my butt and doing things. xD
@XSuicuneX I think it is a never ending process or such a great journey that what u think as already having acheived Moksha is but just the beginning of the process. They say Moksha is like becoming part of God, to me that says becoming part of something greater than ourselves. Think India & u imm think of Gandhiji, America it is George Washington. That's teh path towards Moksha - a chance to be Great, to be Extraordinary, while enriching ourslevs in the process.
@XSuicuneX Heaven is so illogical. Say a christian child dies, say at the age of 3. She goes straight ot heaven, right? So, logically, is she were to live, she would risk getting closer to hell! If she were to lead her life as an adult she may make a mistake & land in hell! So basically ur religion is saying better off to die at an early age! Life is meaningless, pointless!
Frankly don't u think God has better things to do than babysit billions till eternity? Feed& cloth billions till eternity?
@XSuicuneX Life on earth matters, human life matters. Pl see my video - Hindus are the Chosen People.
Pl don't take this the wrong way - but i am glad u are not a Hindu or more the point u are not ready to be a Hindu. The subject of Hell is a non-starter. God Rama does not Torture. Period. U can't be a Hindu & believe in Hell. It is better to TEACH than to punish. Punishment is Reactive, after the fact, whereas Teaching is proactive, before the fact.
@XSuicuneX Hell has more in common with the likes of a Saddam Husain, Hitler or Stalin. People like Gandhiji, Mother Teresa or a Nelson Mandela would never dream of torturing their enemies.
Direct question to u: If u had the chance to either enlighten ur tormentor or punish him, which would u choose? Punishment satisfies ur savage instinct, u get revenge, but enlightenment makes ur tormentor a better person. Everyone benefits! Again here come the WE, something to think about.
@ramaraksha01 Well, I'm not too sure about the chosen people thing, but that's because I'm cautious of things that hint to conversion. My backround and all, but I do like alot of the ideas. Personally, my core is christian, or what a christian SHOULD be, but I don't have a name for what I follow, I simply am. My heart is my 'bible'. Selfish sounding, but it's proven to be a better guide then some asshole on a podium.
As to your question, enlightenment, because my nature refuses anything else.
@XSuicuneX Thank u that is nice to hear. Then i urge u to please drop this idea of Hell - it is a primitive concept from olden days. times were much harsher then - today we have banks to protect our money, a civilized society with laws & police - back then people didn't have any of these. So bad people needed to be punished & so a Hell arose. But that is not what God would do - Amazing that a 7,000 yr old faith figured this out. Karma & Rebirth is the human, non-violent way of God.
@XSuicuneX Our view of God is also different - She is more a Teacher not a King. Our goal is Moksha - Enlightenment or Knowledge with God as our guru. If u get an F, u must never beg or grovel before the Teacher & ask her to change it. That A must be EARNED! Never kneel to God, never beg or ask for mercy. Take ur lumps, take responsibility for ur actions(that is the teaching of Karma & Rebirth). If more people took responsibility for their actions, we wouldn't have all these terrorist killings
@XSuicuneX The videos that i put out have more to do with infusing young Hindus with pride about their faith. This is a great faith & if i get some converts, that's great, but that was not the original idea. Imagine a 7,000 yr old faith saying men & women are equal - to this day the only major fiath to pray to God in a female form.
I dare say that if the Buddha had been born in Europe or muslim lands he would have been branded a heretic & tortured to death! There would be no Buddhism today!
@XSuicuneX No Jainism, Sikhism, Zoarashtrism, Bohra Islam nor the tribal religions of India! U can see the effects even today. Even the most powerful man in the world, Obama, had to insist that he was christian. He couldn't dare say that he was not one. Name one non-christian or non-muslim in christian or muslim lands, u can't.
In contrast, Hindu India had a muslim president, a catholic leader of the country & a Sikh for PM! Cabinets have always been multireligious
@XSuicuneX There is no Heaven nor Hell for Hindus. But if some Hindus do ask for heaven by begging, they have the same chance of getting there as winning the lottery.
My life turned when I realized that with Karma, Rebirth & Moksha - Hinduism leaves no room for Hell. NO torture God, no sadistic God, no Hitler, Stalin, Saddam like God. It was a huge relief.
@ramaraksha01 That is a relief, but for me, the teachings of christianity are still ingrained deeply...I just have a very different view on hell then what I had before. It still exists, (to me) but the reason's people end up there are WAY different from what most christians believe. You earn your way to hell, just as you earn your way to heaven. We make hell, we make 'heaven'. You hear the term, "You caused your own unhappyness" Thats you making hell.
Karma & Rebirth means that even though we could have run away, we Hindus chose to Stay & make things Right.
Karma & Rebirth means a Hindu’s goal is Moksha – An Enlightenment of the Mind & the Heart. Heaven is about bodily pleasures, sex, food & drink – a cheap goal.
Karma & Rebirth means that We are the Builders of our Society, our World
Karma & Rebirth means that Hindus don’t run away from problems. We face them, we fight them, we solve them.
this is awesome.. and this trully shows how receptive people can be to the Good news.. people want to hear that their sins are forgiven and that Jesus Loves them.. go out and preach the Gosple
@badger555555 why seek forgiveness? why not make amends instead? Set right the things u did wrong. Don't cheat those who u owe.
A Hindu STANDS Tall before God, he knows he doesn't have to beg & grovel for mercy, his head held high, he accepts his mistakes, comes back to make amends - that is the right thing to do.
Break something? say sorry yes, but replace it ASAP. That's the right thing to do.
"Two men went to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men, robbers, evildoers, adulterers or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
@ramaraksha01 "But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' "I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
@badger555555 so it's all about showing how good a slave or servant u can be? Self abuse urself as a sinner? So no difference between a Mother Teresa & a Hitler? No meaning for human life? Character doesn't matter? doesnt' matter if u are a murderer or rapist just as long as u learn to beg & grovel? The good person who stands straight & looks u in the eye is the baddie who goes to hell & the pedophile heads to heaven because he behaved like a slave dog?
@badger555555 Ok good luck with the tooth fairy that is going to babysit u till eternity. Feed&cloth billions till eternity just because u were born in the "right" religion & learnt beg&grovel down on ur knees.Makes complete sense.
yes when i took on a debt I gave my word that i will pay it back.I am not going to cheat my creditors or go back on my word. God asks me to be Strong, to keep my word -that is the right thing to do. isn't that what religion is all about - make us do the right thing?
@badger555555 I guess that is the diff between us - u use god as a tool to further ur religion, we see God as Truth who makes us walk the right path. Maybe that's why u force ur god to run segregated heavens, whereas our Rama heart is open to ALL Good souls - Atheists, christians, muslims.... Character matters to God Rama.
@ramaraksha01 If the sinner do not acknowledge his sins; if he cover and excuse them, and refuse to come to the light of God's word and Spirit, lest his deeds should be reproved, he shall find no salvation. God will never admit a sinful, unhumbled soul, into his kingdom.
@ramaraksha01 But if he confess his sin, with a penitent and broken heart, and, by forsaking every evil way, give this proof that he feels his own sore, and the plague of his heart, then he shall have mercy. Here is a doctrine of vital importance to the salvation of the soul, which the weakest may understand.
Sooooo what he's trying to say is that because jesus died and paid for our sins, we should disregard the old testament?
blacklabel015 1 week ago
I love this guy! The truth hurts but will set you free !!!
lharmon4 2 weeks ago
Apparently Kirk's Bible ends at Exodus 20. Maybe he should read John 8.
NatiCelebs 1 month ago
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NatiCelebs 1 month ago
I love this clip!
sandytinky 1 month ago
This is amazing!
NonebutJesus316 1 month ago
For anyone who is watching this, Remember we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, But Jesus gave us a way out of Hell, Come to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness of your sins, Jesus died on the cross for all of our sins and when we become a Christian and are born again, We can start fresh and our old ways are washed away, Sin will lead you into Hell for ever, But if you ask for forgiveness from Jesus you will be cleaned, God bless all who read this, Get to know Jesus Christ...
IrishmanNH 1 month ago
Thank You Jesus for this ministry, it is all of our jobs as Christians to share the gospel with a hurting, confused,& lost world. Kirk and Ray our awesome examples of Christians who are truly fulfilling the commandment which Jesus gave: Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel. We need to use the law to show them they are guilty of breaking the holy law of God. And the only way to escape punishment for breaking the law is to understand what Jesus did for them and for them to accept Him.
ForgivenbyGrace84 2 months ago
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST KIRK CAMERON*
JenniferPowell01 2 months ago 2
Kee-shayne...YOU ROCK, but GOD rocks more! and man BROTHER CAMERON is so right, believe in the LORD, he loves u with an everlasting LOVE, u r his child, u r intelligent and your heart is so in the right place, GOD bless you, and your walk with CHRIST , he is your LORD AND YOUR SAVIOR, things may get hard but he will ALWAYS be there for you add me on facebook if u want, jennifer poewell, montreal canada! JOHN 3:16-17..I HAVE A CHRITIAN GROUP THERE IF U WANT TO JOIN..GOD BLESS U XOXO
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@JenniferPowell0 Hey Jennifer. From your testimony I can see that you are a Christian. I just wanted to ask you a very serious question. If you believe God, than why do you and most Christians disrespect him so much?
1NWOMD 2 weeks ago
Kee-Shayn! Nice-sounding name :)
Hardyanisi 3 months ago
he talks about the 10 commandments what about the other 603
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InGodsDefense 4 months ago
all you guys( the guy from growing pains and Ray Comfort) does is prey on everyday people who aren't so knowledgeable of the sctiptures and you tell them they are going to hell for not following the commandment, and that they are liars, thieves and murderers because at one point in there lives they have lied about something or stolen or hated someone, what about grace according to Paul, do you believe that observing the law( 613 total) will get you to heaven?, it wont because its works.
zipitup75 4 months ago
@zipitup75 The grace of God is enough to save through FAITH ALONE. I don't agree with the "two things you need for eternal life" theology. In fact I think it's dangerous b/c it only gives Jesus Christ half the credit and becomes a works based salvation (no matter how much they say it doesn't). Instead, according to Paul, repentance is evidence of salvation... not a sinless life, we'll never get there. If your lifestyle doesn't change after being saved, you may want to check your sincerity.
cdklassen2 4 months ago
@cdklassen2 i've always be a repentant person even before i knew anything about jesus, i cant even bring myself to hurt another person now, i dont have it in me, and it aggravates me when anyone says to me, you are a good person, because i dont believe that, i could never kill another person and feel no remorse or guilt for it, i just wanna know more about Jesus, and the father and Paul's letters makes alot more sense than the other apostles, its more thought out.
zipitup75 4 months ago
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@zipitup75 Jer. 29:13 "And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart." God bless you on your search for Jesus. Most people take that search for granted, myself included. Salvation isn't based on a single prayer (though that could be the beginning), but a lifetime relationship. The more you get to know Him/His Word, the more you will realize how much you need Him just to get through the day. Then you're on the right path. Stay humble my friend.
cdklassen2 4 months ago
@zipitup75 Ray Comfort is a wonderful man, God bless him and his ministry, but telling Christians (who sin like everybody else) that they are false converts is dangerous because it destroys the very thing that will save them... their faith in the power of Jesus Christ... and their trust in His power to save. We will never escape sin. In fact Christians struggle with it even more than non-Christians because we are more conscious of it. Christians are not sinless except in the eyes of God.
cdklassen2 4 months ago
Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to heaven. What an amazing story. God is so merciful he paid your debt! The judge paid your fine, a fine you couldn't pay in a million years. All you need to do is accept his mercy BEFORE the court date. TURN TO JESUS CHRIST before it's too late. When your body expires it's too late.
cdklassen2 5 months ago
@cdklassen2 if the debt is paid in full, the sin of unbelief should be covered by the blood too, paul said its by grace we are saved so that no man may boast, jesus is the end of the law according to the apostle Paul, so how can God convict someone for breaking a law that is no longer in effect, yes we can do bad things still but the yoke of the law is lifted, when Christ was on the cross we were hanging there with Him and we died and rose again in Him, according to Paul
zipitup75 4 months ago
@zipitup75 The bible is very clear that faith in Jesus Christ as Lord is our only hope of redemption of sin. Please keep in mind that God never commanded us to believe, we are free to believe, we are free not to. Disbelief is not a sin, nor will it convict you... it is your sin that convicts you. Jesus said that no one comes to the Father but by Him. Faith = righteousness ("not guilty") = eternity in heaven with Him. Disbelief = damnation = eternal torment in hell without Him. God bless.
cdklassen2 4 months ago
@cdklassen2 you controdict yourself because unbelief is the same as disbelief and if unbelief is not a sin why does it equals hell and damnation? i never could get this, we believe that jesus wiped every sin away by His blood and the cross yet people are still talking about going to hell, how can it be true that our saviour destroyed sin yet we still say we sin? if sin is dead how can we repent of something that is no more unless jesus died for some sin and not all
zipitup75 4 months ago
@zipitup75 Faith in Jesus Christ is the only way to protect yourself from God's judgement... "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" and therefore we all deserve eternal punishment. But God is "not willing that any should perish" so He sent His son to live a perfect life and to die in our place. There is no contradiction. It's very clear, Christ gave His life so that "whosever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." No faith, no redemption. God bless.
cdklassen2 4 months ago
@cdklassen2 i disagree, no one deserve eternal punishment not even Hitler im not asking you to agree with me or not, yes we all sinned by association with Adam and Eve but it was not our fault, paul said through Adam death reigned even over those who have not sinned, Jesus said it was finished meaning the devil is done sin is done, but the other apostles still wrote about sin and the devil, they went against Paul and the gospel he recieved which was of grace not works, there is two gospels
zipitup75 4 months ago
@zipitup75 I too have struggled with this in my feeble human mind. But God's ways are not our ways... and even the best of our deeds, without Him, are like filthy rags in His eyes. There is only one gospel... and that is the grace of God through the sacrifice of His son Jesus Christ. Please know how painful that would be... killing your only (perfect) son to rescue a world of ungrateful people who blaspheme you. But He did, and death is overcome for those who believe. The rest is up to us.
cdklassen2 4 months ago
He couldnt figure out Lier? lol
reesedrums 6 months ago
Christianity is FALSE. . .
nojokenygren 6 months ago
@nojokenygren: Okay, have fun freaking out when 2012 hits! cause we (Christians) don't believe in that.
eaTiagaG 5 months ago
@eaTiagaG 2012 is also FALSE. . .
nojokenygren 5 months ago
All this repenting and reading the bible sounds like hard work. Cant I just die in glorious combat and dine with the Gods and fellow warriors in Valhalla? That sounds a lot more fun then worshiping some tribal desert god for eternity.
bigdaddyaen 6 months ago
@bigdaddyaen: You just go to a building, pray, etc, read your bible. Think about it. Is it REALLY that hard to take time to pray a little? It's not difficult. Sure you could just die...but that hurts. Wouldn't you want to die knowing it's not over? (; and you'll be forever with a God and people who love youu. It's better then thinking "oh..life..you just live and turn to dust." How boring is that? then everyone should just die if there's no meaning to jobs, love, etc.
eaTiagaG 5 months ago
I dont like religion. My God is Love
jagamasat 7 months ago
its all based around "Fear of Death".
Religious people are looking to much to the 'next life' and what it promises.
Religion is a form of mind control made by the hand of humans interpretation.
Research how far we have come in knowledge on ourselves, our brain. And how marketing/advertising companies uses the same promises.
The band frankie goes to hollywood, 'the power of love' is all time. Learn to love yourself, forgive yourself and behave as a human being, not a human doing.
henrytheman74 7 months ago
I have sinned anger has taken place in my heart and other things Forgive me Lord Jesus i don't want to be who i was any more
Tomsjamb 8 months ago 3
again i have asked for forgiveness I have believed lies and let sin have it's place forgive me Jesus for my sins
Tomsjamb 8 months ago
Kirk says that the ninth commandment says that we should not lie. As a matter of fact it says not to "bear false witness AGAINST your neighbor".
While that may be interpreted in many ways, I think it's most likely to mean that we should not say untruthful things about other people. They key phrase being "against thy neighbor".
execthegaming 8 months ago
As to why God would create beings with Free Will,knowing they would do wrong- He WANTS people to Love Him,but Love can ONLY happen by CHOICE,so He HAD to allow Free Will. As to the negative consequences for failure- that is just the way it is;much as fire and water don't mix,nor do light & darkness. BUT,God provided a Way out of that predicament. Again,we have Free Will about that, too. Those who admit their lost condition,&trust God for His solution, will be saved. The rest CHOOSE to stay lost.
SalerPaul 8 months ago
About God "sending" people to hell... It is more like He's GRANTING a lifelong wish to those who wanted nothing to do with God all their lives...
We don't know a lot of details about Heaven or Hell, but I see them like this: Heaven is a place where God's "essence" (presence, or what-have-you) IS, while Hell is a place where God IS NOT.
The problem is, "all GOOD things descend from above" (where God IS); but there will be NO good things in Hell, 'cause it is removed from God's presence!
SalerPaul 8 months ago
@SalerPaul Provide a shred of evidence to support your claims. Thanks.
JohnGolbunny 8 months ago
That is so uplifting. We're in Florida and working on preaching the gospel as well. The point is to see that you and I are Sinners, and that we cannot pay the wages of sin which is death. We must believe in Christ and that he paid that debt with his pure and holy life so that we may live for eternity with him. And Jesus' commandments is to Love our Father and One another as ourselves. GOD BLESS AMEN!!
danniiangelbabii 9 months ago
I like what he does, no matter if religion is the case he puts these people thinking about the things he they have done and makes them rethink what they have done.
bvsandman 10 months ago
Great video!!!
I agree it was a wake-up call!
we need to preach the Gospel and let ppl know about the Truth/Judgement before its tooo late.
God bless you Kirk may God keep on using yu, u r in our prayers!!!!
-Maribel
latinqueen4l1f3 10 months ago
If you're not afraid of the boogeyman you're not afraid of this either...
applemost 11 months ago
Accept Jesus into your life and love everyone. You can NOT do enought "good" deeds to get into heaven. There is no standard...no # to reach....seek forgiveness for your sins, turn away from those sins forever....let the spirit live within you.
You can do this with your last gasp of breath on this earth....and you will be accepted. Just do it.
SD1Chargers 11 months ago
"Since God's compassion starts new every morning, you will never reach a point where his supply of love is exhausted."
SD1Chargers 11 months ago
I'm a Christian, and I think this is ridiculous. Kirk has missed the whole point of Christianity. I don't need someone telling me I'm a bad person and need to be a good kid, I just need to know that I'm not alone and how I can know true love and righteousness. Not this.
LetOurLittleLadyTalk 11 months ago
@LetOurLittleLadyTalk Actually this is not all about love.Jesus did not come primarily to teach us love and good morals.He came that we might come to know the Living God. People need to be shown that they deserve Hell so that they could see the need of a Savior otherwise the good news would not be good news for them b/c they would not know they're in need of a Savior, they would not know they live in offense to the one who made them and are under his wrath if not in Christ
GodLovesUs100 11 months ago
@LetOurLittleLadyTalk this is not about making bad people good,it is about making dead people alive.For is one is not in Christ, they are spiritually dead, not just bad. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation for everyone who believes and Christ is the only one who can bring us to the Father.Blessed is the man whose sins are forgiven! This is not about us, feeling good, or learning how to love.It is about God and what he has done through His Son for his glory.
GodLovesUs100 11 months ago
Tell KIRK, that all sins are forgiven by Christ's shed blood. Jesus' NEW COVENANT makes the OLD LAW (MOSAIC) Obsolete. The wage's sin pays is death. Once we die we've paid for all of our wrongs. Thank you
donstat11 11 months ago
This just goes to show how ridiculous christianity actually is.
betlamed 11 months ago
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there is no hell or heaven
ragingpimps 11 months ago
there is no hell or heaven
ragingpimps 11 months ago
@ragingpimps Are you willing to bet your life on it?
thewayofthemaster 11 months ago 45
@thewayofthemaster no way, who said there is a "HELL" the bible does'nt say so.
ThirdNUnion 11 months ago
@thewayofthemaster I am willing to bet my life on it and then some.
SatanicalEve 11 months ago
@thewayofthemaster
"Are you willing to bet your life on it?"
This is the stupid "logic" that theists use. Whether I'm willing to do something does not determine the reality of the world. Whether there "should" be morals doesn't mean they actually exist.
Not saying religion is a bad thing. I once heard a quote "I would have killed many times if not for God to stop me." Some people need religion to fit into society. Religion protects me from psychopaths. Doesn't mean it's real, though.
Yiroep4 11 months ago
@Yiroep4 maybe a better way of saying it is, it's more logical to believe there's life after death than not to. There's no proof of life after death, all we have is evidence. When there is no "proof" the only evidence we can see if from people's experiences. When we take into account people's experiences with the afterlife eg ghosts and spirits. The evidence points to some sort of afterlife. To think otherwise is Blindly illogical.
jamestrekky 10 months ago
@jamestrekky
What concrete evidence is there to point to the fact that there is an afterlife? Has anything like this been spotted on camera in a way that is completely conclusive?
The fact is that this evidence is not concrete as it relies on people's truthfulness as well as their awareness with their surroundings.
Another point I want to make is that even if an afterlife exists, does that still point to a god's existence? The two are still independent.
It's hard to fit this into 500 chars.
Yiroep4 10 months ago
@Yiroep4 You still don't understand at all. If there was concrete evidence for afterlife, we wouldn't be talking about this at all would we? You can't say everything in 500 chars because you keep stating the OBVIOUS in most of your message - we all know there's no concrete evidence! And I didn't even talk about God. Your reply was 1. Restating the obvious 2. Making an irrelevant statement about God and afterlife that I didn't even mention to begin with.
jamestrekky 10 months ago
@jamestrekky
Point 2 is well taken.
Point 1, however, needed to be said. You said someone would be "blindly illogical" to think there is no afterlife. Without concrete evidence, I don't see what's so "blindly illogical" about that.
I don't believe in ghosts and spirits. I think that this phenomenon that people see or hear ghosts can be explained from a psychological standpoint, rather than actually being real.
Yiroep4 10 months ago
@thewayofthemaster apparently you are, kaafir.
clamantuanguyan 10 months ago
@thewayofthemaster I would
imaidiot1000 10 months ago
@thewayofthemaster
I don't bet my life, moron
FAMEROB 9 months ago
@thewayofthemaster Yes. Because if there is a god, and I am his creation, and he truly loves me but is willing to send me to hell for eternal punishment and torture regardless of how terrible my actions are , It certainly isn't a god I want to be associated with. I know that if a family member of mine does wrong by me, I forgive them because no one is perfect. If a 'perfect' being cannot forgive imperfection, he can stay away from me. He sounds like a tyrant and a sadist.
o0oSolidSnakeo0o 9 months ago 11
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o Considering you don't talk to Him (prayer), you don't daily read His Word (the Bible), you reject His offer of reconciliation (Jesus), and you don't even believe He actually exists, I wouldn't place too much trust in your assessment of His character. Is it possible you could be mistaken?
thewayofthemaster 9 months ago 14
@thewayofthemaster
No, I am familiar with the words of your holy book. Your god endorses slavery (Lev 25: 44-46); the killing of homosexuals(Lev 20: 13), disobedient children (Lev 30: 9) and women who are not virgins on their wedding night (Deut 22: 13-31). Just to name a few. You and I are more morally perfect than god because I know you are a good person, and no good person would think these actions are for good.
o0oSolidSnakeo0o 9 months ago
@thewayofthemaster Let me ask a simple question. Do you have any children? If you do, would you ever send them to eternal punishment and damnation for disobeying one of your requests?
o0oSolidSnakeo0o 9 months ago
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o That's not a valid comparison and you forgot the part where God offers a way for forgiveness of sins. You reject the Savior who would save you from your punishment on the grounds that you don't like your punishment. Why would you do that?
thewayofthemaster 9 months ago 18
@thewayofthemaster You didn't answer the question. Is there anything that a loved one of yours could do to you that would lead you to send them to an eternity of pain and suffering?
o0oSolidSnakeo0o 9 months ago
@thewayofthemaster
You didn't answer my question. Is there anything that a loved one of yours could do that would cause you to send them to an eternity of pain and suffering. Answer the question.
o0oSolidSnakeo0o 9 months ago
@thewayofthemaster It's a perfectly valid comparison because it is the same kind of relationship. As a pastors son Ive heard all of your car salesman arguments and none of them hold water. Not a one.
Free will at the end of a loaded gun is not free will at all. If your imaginary god says to you "worship me or go to hell and burn forever" that is not free will. That is slavery.
I am so glad I am free from your mental slavery.
Vicarious redemption is immoral.
godisimaginaryDOTcom
MrTruthAddict 8 months ago
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Christianity, The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you eat his flesh, drink his blood and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree....
MrTruthAddict 8 months ago
@thewayofthemaster wait a minute, how is that not a valid comparison?
RuniJensen 6 months ago
@thewayofthemaster You're right, it's not a valid comparison. However, you have not proven that there is a heaven or hell. And the burden of proof lies on you, seeing as how you are declaring the existence of something that has no evidence aside from an ancient tomb written by a bunch of desert people two thousand years ago. By the way, the bible's location of heaven was changed when we discovered what was beyond the sky. I guess god miss-spoke.
Hoboninja1000 4 months ago
@Hoboninja1000 You make good points. However, you misspeak when you say "the burden of proof lies on you". There is no burden. A Christian's burden is to simply share the gospel, not be burdened with proving the existence of heaven or hell. Regarding location of heaven, what changed? I'm not saying you are wrong, I have just never heard that. Would love to hear where in the bible it was changed (location of heaven). Would you mind elaborating....I like to learn these things. Thanks.
fletchdrebon 4 months ago
@fletchdrebon Christians used to look at the world like a three layer cake-there is the earth, the sky, and heaven above that. Once we discovered there was no heaven above the sky that went out the window. And yes, there is a burden of proof. If you want to share the gospel you're not doing it well if you can't convince people what you're saying isn't horse radish. I'd love to discuss this with you more however we are clogging the comment section with all of this text. friend req to cont conv?
Hoboninja1000 4 months ago
@Hoboninja1000 Okay, I see what you are saying about how some Christians used to look at where heaven might be. I had never heard that. I always assumed it was an expression. I disagree there is a burden of proof. Christians aren't trying to sell anything (well...some are!). If I were to share the gospel with some1, I don't feel obligated to prove anything. Only share what I believe. God ultimately changes hearts (IMO). Sure..send friend invite...I'm not sure how. Thanks brother.
fletchdrebon 4 months ago
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o
Besides, it is a completely fair comparison. Additionally, would you like to explain your god's teachings on slavery, and punishment of child rebellion. I sure hope that a being with those standards doesn't judge me.
Why would an all-knowing god create a race with free will, knowing that they would break his rules, in which the result is eternal punishment and damnation? Why would this loving being do this? If you think about it, there is no justifiable answer.
o0oSolidSnakeo0o 9 months ago
@thewayofthemaster you are only talking about a book,so why would anyone place any trust in what you have to say,or anyone who believes in any god around the world for that matter...it's called a support group and you just happen to involved in one of the biggest around,and scientifically it's called the God Gene,you guys get a high when you all commune together about the same deity and it's a proven fact..alot of people don't have the god gene,they would be called atheists
zircle1 7 months ago
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o God is NOT willing to punish you. Leaving Him was your free decision. God is NOT the tyrant and sadist who prevents you from coming back to Him... Every sin can be forgiven if the sinner humbles himself to regret it honestly. Imperfection is not a sin. It is human to sin, but it is satanic to neglect and justify our sins, instead of admiting and regretting them, instead of truly accepting our imperfection...
zragisha 8 months ago
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o He's already forgiven you by dying in your place. You just have to accept the free gift. People choose not to accept it because they enjoy a lie more than the truth, because a lie helps a person sin without feeling guilty. Don't think that you must become perfect to be saved, but that you believe in Jesus (who mastered God's perfect Law in your place) to be saved. There is so much to learn, but you have to start with belief that Jesus is the Son of God to understand the rest
jcrum850 7 months ago
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o I noticed how you said "If a 'perfect' being cannot forgive imperfection, he can stay away from me." but Jesus Christ being perfect died so that he could forgive our imperfection and thus he will save us from Hell and he will allow us to come to him if we repent of our sins and respond to him in love and humility. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I'm willing to help however possible.
scottwolfe92 5 months ago
@scottwolfe92 According to 1st Peter the lord created a way for salvation before the establishment of the earth( before the earth and adam and eve was created) so with that said Adam and Eve was destined to sin, because if they had not sin then God's plan for salvation would be in vain, we are not imperfect because we chose to be, we did nothing wrong, Adam and eve sinned not us, and now we are paying for their transgressions i dont believe that is fair at all
zipitup75 4 months ago
@zipitup75 Yes, we are paying the penalty for sin, because of Adam and Eve and our human nature, but not because of God. Adam and Eve had a choice to not eat from the apple. God told them not to eat from the tree of Good and Evil, but they did because Satan decieved them. Same thing with us, when we are decieved we can either listen to God or follow the deception and pay the consequences for it Even though they sinned, It is through Jesus Christ we are forgiven for ALL our sins, and we are saved
scottwolfe92 4 months ago
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@zipitup75 Yes, we are paying the penalty for sin, because of Adam and Eve and our human nature, but not because of God. Adam and Eve had a choice to not eat from the apple. God told them not to eat from the tree of Good and Evil, but they did because Satan decieved them. Same thing with us, when we are decieved we can either listen to God or follow the deception and pay the consequences for it Even though they sinned, It is through Jesus Christ we are forgiven for ALL our sins, and we are saved
scottwolfe92 4 months ago
@zipitup75 Yes, we are paying the penalty for sin, because of Adam and Eve and our human nature, but not because of God. Adam and Eve had a choice to not eat from the apple. God told them not to eat from the tree of Good and Evil, but they did because Satan decieved them. Same thing with us, when we are decieved we can either listen to God or follow the deception and pay the consequences for it. Though they sinned, It is through Jesus Christ we are forgiven for ALL our sins, and we are saved
scottwolfe92 4 months ago
@o0oSolidSnakeo0o and we also have to accept him as our Savior.
scottwolfe92 5 months ago
@thewayofthemaster if there is heaven and hell, god and lucifer do exists, how come my father suffered on his dead bed? i was with him for two weeks straight and he was suffering for two weeks completely in pain, no morphine or painkillers, just lying there waking up every ten minutes in pain. he had throat cancer, he had to eat liquid food and could only drink out of a straw. he was a caring man, he gave up everything for me; and yet he was the one suffering in agony for 6 months. merciful much
DaTSiKxGaming 7 months ago
@thewayofthemaster Bet what life?? that is the source and fact why religion survives..you threaten people with eternal damnation,and so the sheep follow and pay up..if there is a hell you r the ones who will burn,for the terrorism of the mind you perform,TRUE ENLIGHTENMENT is discovering that no man knows what happens when we die...and that is the ultimate fact..
zircle1 7 months ago
@thewayofthemaster Absolutely! Just like millions of other Christians have. Take the Spanish Inquisition for example where true Christians were given a chance to recant their faith in Jesus as the Son of God, the only way to salvation, or be burned alive at the stake. The fact that they would do anything for the Savior who bought them should tell you something.
jcrum850 7 months ago
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@thewayofthemaster how do you know that Allah is not real?
RuniJensen 6 months ago
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@ragingpimps "there is no hell or heaven" its like your in dark and dont believe in light and are saying that light never exists!
bagdanav 10 months ago
@ragingpimps Prove it :)
MegaLoveRevolution 9 months ago
@ragingpimps who said you that?
glenn2593 4 months ago
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zionram 3 months ago
@ragingpimps My my, you sound sure. How are you so sure?
/watch?v=CjrRhxgKzHE
zionram 3 months ago
that is a wake up call
BrandonJohn777 11 months ago
I can do nothing to save "we" - all I can do is save "me" or "I". I can tell you what I believe and you can listen or not - your choice. It's God's way or not - period! If God really does exist (like I know He does) you better figure out what He REALLY expects of you - I doubt it's "...every religion is the same." You can make your own God if you want but it doesn't change the one and true God and it doesn't change what He expects of us.
AmeKeaka 1 year ago
@xsuinx...No your incorrect in saying "every religion is saying the same thing". First all "religion" is man made = traditions, man made rules/regs, denominations, sects etc. Relationship is based on faith and faith alone. Second Christianity stands alone in that it teaches that there is ONE God and ONE way to Him and that is through His Son Jesus Christ. St John 14:6 I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE: NO man comes to the Father but by me. A clear distiction.
eyezwideopen1 1 year ago
@eyezwideopen1 This kind of there is only one way, my way or the highway has landed us in trouble. Look at what is going on in some muslim countries - no respect for other views leading to lots of killings. I suppose u live in a democracy where diff views are celebrated & respected. yet ur religion teaches the opposite? Backward religions with primitive ideas fit for a medieval times when kings ruled.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@eyezwideopen1 Also if we take eternity as 100 yrs, let's do the math & ask what would that make 70 odd yrs of human life? A half second? or 1/10th of a second? So u are telling me based on this 1/10th of a second, i go to either heaven or hell for eternity? Does that sound logical? Again what is 1/10th of a second? So basically human life is pointless & meaningless. It's ALL about the after life & how do I get there?
Hinduism differs - think of WE instead of I.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@eyezwideopen1 You guys continiueally focus on, what I think, is the inimportant 'message' of christianity. Jesus never said to go out and make borg drones of people, he asked people to help teach others to become good and decent human beings. He was a man with a great idea, a great teacher. Christian values aren't bad, but you get so caught up in the witnessing that alot of you become freakin' hypocrits and awful awful people in the process! Wake up!
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
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"Proof You Were Never Born A Sinner!"
MrUrimthummim 1 year ago
Its not about religeon it's about the relationship. And those who just get saved and dont live there life for christ will surely be left here to go through the Great Tribluation
Laqueyhornet 1 year ago
@Laqueyhornet That is not biblical because according to the Bible, all those who get saved will live for Christ. Read 1 John, it says if we claim to know him yet do not keep his commands we are LIARS and the truth is not in us. If someone has really been born-again, their life and manner of living will be changed and God will finish the good work he began in them and lead them in sanctification.Those who claim to be Christian yet bear no fruit only show they are false converts.
GodLovesUs100 11 months ago
Kirk is the one who needs to wake up. The bible has been proven to be false on every important aspect, and putting your crimes on an innocent human sacrifice makes YOU EVIL, it does not save you from anything. Pile on top of it pretending to eat the flesh of the dead human sacrifice and drinking his blood...KIRK! WAKE UP! Its not 345AD, its the 21st century! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
MrHobiecat 1 year ago
Do you keep the ten commandments? You know that working on a saturday is a mortal sin, and the punishment is death by stoning, then eternal punishment in hell, dont you? Hey! Where are you going? What about lying? the punishment for lying is death by stoning, then eternal punishment in hell!
MrHobiecat 1 year ago
I always feel uncomfortable when I see this stuff....and no, it's not because it's 'resonating' with me about god's word or anything...it's just conversion always seemed wrong to me. Even when I was a christian, it seemed very wrong. Who are we to judge?
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX It's called evangelism and it woke the guy up as he kept stating at the end of the video
Laqueyhornet 1 year ago
@Laqueyhornet I know what it is. I was raised in that sect. It's still wrong. Do you know how many mistranslations there are in the bible? Do you know that it wasn't Jesus' intention to even START a religion? The man had a good idea, and good teachings. Not everyone agree's with it, and that's perfectly fine. They are still good people, learning to live as decent human beings.
Ten commandments story is also mistranslated. Man has altered the so called 'word of God.' It's unreliable.
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX They're not judging! We've all fallen short of being "good" and are therefore condemed to death. They're only pointing out the fact that we ARE ALL condemed to death unless we've been washed clean by the blood of Christ so we'll be able to stand before a "good" god. We all sin - they're not judging - they're just pointing out that we're not as "good" as we think we are and that we all need to be cleaned or we WILL go to hell.
AmeKeaka 1 year ago
@AmeKeaka I want to be nice to you, because you seem like one of the evangelical types who actually care about the people you talk to. But, nothing I say is going to get through to you. Your teachings have been so deeply injected into your brain that you won't hear anything else that isn't filtered through your 'trained' mind. I mean this in the nicest way possible, I was from where you sound to be from.
Don't be afraid to explore, that's all I can say. Perhaps one day your mind will be open
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX I really do care - thanks. I am very open minded and that's why I found the truth - in the bible. I just want everyone to read the bible for themselves like I did. I see the gift (grace) Jesus gave all of us and I think it's so awesome I want everyone to know it's there for the asking. Religion tries to control people - the words of Jesus in the bible set you free! There's no better feeling than to be free from the empty feeling those in the world try to escape. Jesus came to save.
AmeKeaka 1 year ago
@AmeKeaka People can be set free by any message that speaks to them. You've found 'your' calling, let others find theirs in their own way. Your religion has just as many chains and locks as others do, if it's used in the wrong way. If you look at others, every religion and every 'path' is basically saying the same thing. They have people saying their way is the 'right' way as well.
All faiths have a bit of truth to them, none is the true path.
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX Telling someone who's standing on a train tressell that they need to get off the track because a train's coming and they'll die if they don't get off the track isn't judging that person for being on the track even though it's illegal. It's just telling the person that the situation he's in is going to kill him unless he listens to reason. It's the same here - people need to know they're not as "good" as they think they are and they're going to hell unless they come to Jesus -period
AmeKeaka 1 year ago
God created man in his own image (Genesis 1:27), but we can't look at women with lust (Matthew 5:28)?? Isn't it innate behavior to do such? Then why would God create this within us if he didn't want us to use it? I'd probably get "it's a test" response from christians, but that's such a cop-out.
ramirosan145 1 year ago
@ramirosan145 I still have lustful thoughts when I see a pretty girl even though I'm married. Since I've accepted Jesus into my heart and have started to read my bible every day I find myself stopping myself from continuing to look and also stop myself from entertaining the lustful feelings that initially come to mind. It gets better and better the longer I stay in the word. You want a "test"? Read your bible, believe in Jesus and see if He doesn't change your heart too!
AmeKeaka 1 year ago
Karma & Rebirth means that Hindus don’t run away from problems. We face them, we fight them, we solve them.
Karma & Rebirth means that even though we could have run away, we Hindus chose to Stay & make things Right.
Karma & Rebirth means a Hindu’s goal is Moksha – An Enlightenment of the Mind & the Heart. Heaven is about bodily pleasures - sex, food & drink – a cheap goal.
Karma & Rebirth means that We are the Builders of our Society, our World
Karma & Rebirth is the Ultimate Moral Compass
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 You said some things that make me wonder if you are familiar with christian beliefs... For example, you spoke about bodily pleasures in heaven?
mikeyjwest 1 year ago
@mikeyjwest Not exactly. There are Hindus who believe in heaven & hell. Their version might be diff from urs. Though i am not too sure that urs is that much different. Anything that can be begged for or given can't be any good. The only worthwhile thing is something that is EARNED. Moksha - Enlightenment, knowledge - is always EARNED - that is why it is the higher goal, that is why we have so many lives.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 I like this idea better then the "You can't reach heaven through good works, Jesus is the only way. Why attempt to fight a loosing battle when you can get a free ride from your best friend Jesus! *wink*"
It always seemed like a copout to me...if we're meant to be good people and an example to the world...why are we given the keys to heaven? Where's the motivation to become better? You're saved already. Have 'fun'.
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX You sound like one of those brain-washed Jahovah's witnesses. If you had an open mind instead of a brain-washed mind you'd understand the truth. First you're saved and you gain your eternal salvation - THEN you do good works as you grow in the word becasue you see (if your mind is open and not poluted by the watchtower) what a wonder gift God has given us. I pray for you - I have a JW friend who is starting to see the truth - and the lies of the Watchtower. Let Jesus in ur heart!
AmeKeaka 1 year ago
@AmeKeaka How dare you claim that the JW have it wrong? I'm not a JW but from what I know of them they are a group who're just trying to do the same thing that everyone else on this world is trying to do, they're trying to live their life and be decent human beings in the process. You call them 'brain-washed' ...well, I may agree with you, but they at least make an effort to 'study' the bible. (at lest the good ones do)
Who's to say you're not the brain-washed one yourself?
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX sorry for the late reply. I totally agree - this is just a religion trying to gain converts - they make easy promises - join us & off u go to heaven. yay! not convinced? here come the threats. Just using a carrot & stick method or a good cop, bad cop method. Unfortunately it has worked for them, so they will continue to use it as long as there are guillible people.
We Hindus believe the only thing God cares about is ur Character, nothing else matters.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 It was actually the Hindu religion that got me to open up my eyes. Technically it as a song...what's it called....the kind that you sing one phrase and a group of people repeat it...anyways, music is the most important thing to me now, and it's what got me out of that brainwashed mindset that the 'circle' of many fundie christians are in. I like alot of the idea's of Hinduism, and I agree with alot of what they believe in.
Though I don't consider myself Hindu either.
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX Religion doesn't matter to us Hindus. For God Rama only character matters. A Good Atheist is closer to God Rama than even a Good Hindu, so says this Hindu.
The only thing is that I do believe that ALL Hindus will be reborn. Karma & Rebirth ask us to Stay & Fight for a better earth. Every other religion teaches how God is going to take such nice care of them, Hinduism asks us to earn Praise FROM God! Earth will be a heaven based on our effforts & we Hindus are ready to make that cotd
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX happen. It's like the fort is being attacked - diseases, kooky dictators, global warming etc - & Hindus are asked to rush to the front. Others are one-and-done, after this life, they take a seat, they become spectators. Only Hindus are blessed to walk in the footsteps of Gandhiji, Mother Teresa & the like, their sacrifices won't go in vain. We won't quit mother earth, we will stay & fight.
It's a tough faith, it's not for everyone.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 actually even when I was a christian I always believed that, even during the 'end times' I would beg God to let me come back down to help. I kinda even felt that reincarnation could happen even for christians. If we wanted to, God would let us have life again. I would even stand at the gates of heaven and refuse to go in if certain people important to me wouldn't get in themselves.
I still feel that desire. I dont' want 'heaven' I want to keep returning. It's who I am.
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX well there's a bit more in Hinduism than just keep coming back. There is a goal - Moksha - Knowledge, Enlightenment. This is why we keep coming back as well as to repay any debts that we may have left behind.
The concept of heaven defies logic - say a child dies. She would go to heaven right? So then the more u live, the more u get closer to hell. So the best thing to do is to die early. Human life then becomes pointless.
Hell of course is the sickest, vile, horrible concept ever
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 Oh, I know about those other goals. *nods* I did some research when I looked into it. Personally I'm not after enlightenment, I just wanna come back and help people. That's all I want.
Actually I think in previous christian beliefs if the child was unbaptized they would go to hell as well. Or Purgatory. I don't know if it was soley a catholic thing or not. Still kinda fucked up.
I believe that we create our own hell. The greatest hell is in your mind...or so I heard once.
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX sorry for the late reply - u are echoing the thoughts of Gandhiji, the man i admire most in this world - i desire neither heaven nor Moksha were his words. In Hinduism character is the only thing that counts - a Good Atheist is closer to God Rama than even a Good Hindu, so says this Hindu. what a contrast to this person on this board who keeps trying to scare peple into joining her religion.
We Hindus say come to God because u want to. Do Good(God) because it is the right thing to do
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 That's actually really interesting, since I've never read or heard about that person. (I don't think at least...) I also prefer character over what you 'claim' to be. I think God does too. I don't think he really minds if you're christian or not, so long as we do what we're meant to do, and are good people.
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX Once u go down the road saying that religion matters - then u end up with a god who will be running a segregated heaven, that's just sick. If character doesn't matter then a good man ends up in hell but a pedophile, murderer gets heaven? Not a heaven that i would like to visit. These are just proselytizers scaring people into converting to their religion - unfortunately they have been successful with this tactic so they will continue to use it.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 Sad but true. I wouldn't want a heaven like that either.
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX We Hindus have a diff view of Heaven.
Heaven: Sex, food, drink - a place for bodily pleasures. Win the lottery & u can have them all right here on earth. No qualification necessary, heaven can be begged for or given.
Moksha: An awakening of the Mind & Heart - to be able to think like Gandhiji or Einstein, to be able to compose music like Mozart, to be able to sing like MS(Indian singer) etc.
Moksha is always EARNED, can never be begged for nor given. This is the goal of all Hindus
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 Hmmm...what about the people who already have these gifts and already feel the desire to keep coming back and help their fellow human? Those who have great compassion and great gifts. Have they already achieved Moksha and just decided to come back and live a human life?
I'm just curious. Personally I just already feel the desire to come back, I just have challenged with getting off my butt and doing things. xD
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX I think it is a never ending process or such a great journey that what u think as already having acheived Moksha is but just the beginning of the process. They say Moksha is like becoming part of God, to me that says becoming part of something greater than ourselves. Think India & u imm think of Gandhiji, America it is George Washington. That's teh path towards Moksha - a chance to be Great, to be Extraordinary, while enriching ourslevs in the process.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 Hmmm...I like that, I like that alot. Much better then heaven.
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX Heaven is so illogical. Say a christian child dies, say at the age of 3. She goes straight ot heaven, right? So, logically, is she were to live, she would risk getting closer to hell! If she were to lead her life as an adult she may make a mistake & land in hell! So basically ur religion is saying better off to die at an early age! Life is meaningless, pointless!
Frankly don't u think God has better things to do than babysit billions till eternity? Feed& cloth billions till eternity?
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX Life on earth matters, human life matters. Pl see my video - Hindus are the Chosen People.
Pl don't take this the wrong way - but i am glad u are not a Hindu or more the point u are not ready to be a Hindu. The subject of Hell is a non-starter. God Rama does not Torture. Period. U can't be a Hindu & believe in Hell. It is better to TEACH than to punish. Punishment is Reactive, after the fact, whereas Teaching is proactive, before the fact.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX Hell has more in common with the likes of a Saddam Husain, Hitler or Stalin. People like Gandhiji, Mother Teresa or a Nelson Mandela would never dream of torturing their enemies.
Direct question to u: If u had the chance to either enlighten ur tormentor or punish him, which would u choose? Punishment satisfies ur savage instinct, u get revenge, but enlightenment makes ur tormentor a better person. Everyone benefits! Again here come the WE, something to think about.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 What kind of weird Pagan language are you speaking?
JackieSweetlips 1 year ago
@JackieSweetlips lol. What kind of a brainwashing did they do to you? See how easy this is?
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 Well, I'm not too sure about the chosen people thing, but that's because I'm cautious of things that hint to conversion. My backround and all, but I do like alot of the ideas. Personally, my core is christian, or what a christian SHOULD be, but I don't have a name for what I follow, I simply am. My heart is my 'bible'. Selfish sounding, but it's proven to be a better guide then some asshole on a podium.
As to your question, enlightenment, because my nature refuses anything else.
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX Thank u that is nice to hear. Then i urge u to please drop this idea of Hell - it is a primitive concept from olden days. times were much harsher then - today we have banks to protect our money, a civilized society with laws & police - back then people didn't have any of these. So bad people needed to be punished & so a Hell arose. But that is not what God would do - Amazing that a 7,000 yr old faith figured this out. Karma & Rebirth is the human, non-violent way of God.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX Our view of God is also different - She is more a Teacher not a King. Our goal is Moksha - Enlightenment or Knowledge with God as our guru. If u get an F, u must never beg or grovel before the Teacher & ask her to change it. That A must be EARNED! Never kneel to God, never beg or ask for mercy. Take ur lumps, take responsibility for ur actions(that is the teaching of Karma & Rebirth). If more people took responsibility for their actions, we wouldn't have all these terrorist killings
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX The videos that i put out have more to do with infusing young Hindus with pride about their faith. This is a great faith & if i get some converts, that's great, but that was not the original idea. Imagine a 7,000 yr old faith saying men & women are equal - to this day the only major fiath to pray to God in a female form.
I dare say that if the Buddha had been born in Europe or muslim lands he would have been branded a heretic & tortured to death! There would be no Buddhism today!
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX No Jainism, Sikhism, Zoarashtrism, Bohra Islam nor the tribal religions of India! U can see the effects even today. Even the most powerful man in the world, Obama, had to insist that he was christian. He couldn't dare say that he was not one. Name one non-christian or non-muslim in christian or muslim lands, u can't.
In contrast, Hindu India had a muslim president, a catholic leader of the country & a Sikh for PM! Cabinets have always been multireligious
What a great faith!
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@XSuicuneX There is no Heaven nor Hell for Hindus. But if some Hindus do ask for heaven by begging, they have the same chance of getting there as winning the lottery.
My life turned when I realized that with Karma, Rebirth & Moksha - Hinduism leaves no room for Hell. NO torture God, no sadistic God, no Hitler, Stalin, Saddam like God. It was a huge relief.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 That is a relief, but for me, the teachings of christianity are still ingrained deeply...I just have a very different view on hell then what I had before. It still exists, (to me) but the reason's people end up there are WAY different from what most christians believe. You earn your way to hell, just as you earn your way to heaven. We make hell, we make 'heaven'. You hear the term, "You caused your own unhappyness" Thats you making hell.
Of course, this is just my belief.
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
Karma & Rebirth means that Hindus chose Democracy
Karma & Rebirth means that it is Better to Give than Receive
Karma & Rebirth means that God is the “bad” parent – forcing u to do the Right thing instead of giving u the easy way out.
Karma & Rebirth means that We can be Proud of myself. We chose to do the difficult but the Right thing.
Karma & Rebirth means that Character matters to God.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
"heres the one that got me"
kirk cameron trying to say hes never lied or stolen
monteoner 1 year ago
Karma & Rebirth means that We talk less, Do more. Don’t just talk about what u would have done if alive, show God by doing it!
Karma & Rebirth means there is no God police, but there is a Truth police, a conscience police.
Karma & Rebirth means We reject Easy promises. Hindus chose to EARN God’s Grace.
Karma & Rebirth means that We do not coddle the Criminal at the expense of the Victim
Karma & Rebirth means Hindus are not One-And-Done
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
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Karma & Rebirth means that even though we could have run away, we Hindus chose to Stay & make things Right.
Karma & Rebirth means a Hindu’s goal is Moksha – An Enlightenment of the Mind & the Heart. Heaven is about bodily pleasures, sex, food & drink – a cheap goal.
Karma & Rebirth means that We are the Builders of our Society, our World
Karma & Rebirth means that Hindus don’t run away from problems. We face them, we fight them, we solve them.
Karma & Rebirth is the Ultimate Moral Compass
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
this is awesome.. and this trully shows how receptive people can be to the Good news.. people want to hear that their sins are forgiven and that Jesus Loves them.. go out and preach the Gosple
badger555555 1 year ago
@badger555555 why seek forgiveness? why not make amends instead? Set right the things u did wrong. Don't cheat those who u owe.
A Hindu STANDS Tall before God, he knows he doesn't have to beg & grovel for mercy, his head held high, he accepts his mistakes, comes back to make amends - that is the right thing to do.
Break something? say sorry yes, but replace it ASAP. That's the right thing to do.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
"Two men went to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men, robbers, evildoers, adulterers or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
badger555555 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 "But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' "I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
badger555555 1 year ago
@badger555555 so it's all about showing how good a slave or servant u can be? Self abuse urself as a sinner? So no difference between a Mother Teresa & a Hitler? No meaning for human life? Character doesn't matter? doesnt' matter if u are a murderer or rapist just as long as u learn to beg & grovel? The good person who stands straight & looks u in the eye is the baddie who goes to hell & the pedophile heads to heaven because he behaved like a slave dog?
Thankfully i am Hindu.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 if u want to pay for ur mistakes on ur own.. thats ur choice.. let me know how it works out
badger555555 1 year ago
@badger555555 Ok good luck with the tooth fairy that is going to babysit u till eternity. Feed&cloth billions till eternity just because u were born in the "right" religion & learnt beg&grovel down on ur knees.Makes complete sense.
yes when i took on a debt I gave my word that i will pay it back.I am not going to cheat my creditors or go back on my word. God asks me to be Strong, to keep my word -that is the right thing to do. isn't that what religion is all about - make us do the right thing?
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@badger555555 I guess that is the diff between us - u use god as a tool to further ur religion, we see God as Truth who makes us walk the right path. Maybe that's why u force ur god to run segregated heavens, whereas our Rama heart is open to ALL Good souls - Atheists, christians, muslims.... Character matters to God Rama.
Choose God, not Religion
Choose Faith, not Religion
Choose Truth, not Religion
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 If the sinner do not acknowledge his sins; if he cover and excuse them, and refuse to come to the light of God's word and Spirit, lest his deeds should be reproved, he shall find no salvation. God will never admit a sinful, unhumbled soul, into his kingdom.
badger555555 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 But if he confess his sin, with a penitent and broken heart, and, by forsaking every evil way, give this proof that he feels his own sore, and the plague of his heart, then he shall have mercy. Here is a doctrine of vital importance to the salvation of the soul, which the weakest may understand.
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