5:42 I thought the shoeboxes and long beard thing was invented by The Simpsons when Mr. Burns went crazy from owning a casino. What is that old man from in this part from?
Howard Hughes, noted genius, recluse, billionaire, and extreme pathological germophobe/OCD sufferer. Later in life his genius turned to pathology. I'd strongly suggest you check out the Wiki page on him as an intro. He changed the aviation industry during his productive years, and was a fascinating man of his time. His legacy, the Howard Hughes Medical Institute, funds some of the top biomedical research in the US and I thank his memory for that.
@C0nc0rdance I will thank you sir. I love the videos! I was actually hoping that Potholer54 would debunk homeopathy, and I was hoping that he would tackle it and make some videos about it. Then I found your channel through thunderf00t and realized that you already have made videos about it! So thank you. I plan to watch all your videos.
@brianofke You know all those facts you listed a couple posts down? Those arent facts. Thats what we sane people call "crazy bullshit". Now, instead of telling me to "do some research" why dont you post some information that backs you up, and where you got that information.
SORRY MATE. GOOGLE THE SIMPSONWOOD REPORT. VACCINES ARE NEITHER SAFE OR EFFECTIVE. THEY CAUSE AUTISM, ADD, ADHD ETC... AND THE BIG PHARMA COMPANIES KNOW THIS. THEY PUT PROFITS OVER PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN. A BIG NASTY COVER UP.
Yes, preservatives are not about safety, they are about shelf-life, stability, and shipping. I believe the manufacturers of vaccines would be quite happy to sell you single-dose vaccines for a higher price and smaller inventory costs. In fact, they do.
However, until sufficient evidence exists that thimerosal, at the concentrations used, has a negative health effect, why shouldn't we keep the costs and logistical complexity of vaccination down?
@C0nc0rdance I slightly disagree with you on this point; bacteriostatics were originally added to vaccines to prevent the growth of exogenous pathogens that might otherwise infect the vaccine (obviously, injecting a contaminated dose into the patient has serious repercussions). Also, as I understand it, the FDA has phased thiomersal out of most vaccines, not because they found evidence of toxicity, but because of public fears of toxicity.
no they say they did, but many still had it, and also people react differently to ingredients. its the amount of vaccinations which by 2008 was 68- that is an absurd number of vaccines to give. no wonder kids are suffering from all kids of issues
The global vaccine market is around 20 billion USD ($3/person). Total global pharmaceutical sales are estimated at 1100 billion USD. Vaccines aren't a major revenue source for anybody, but we need them. They prevent catastrophic disease. Thus, the manufacturers must be enticed to continue making them. We do the same for sutures, select antibiotics and military ammunition. Protected domestic markets.
@C0nc0rdance Just because the pharmaceutical industry is so insanely massive and money hungry should not make 20 billion dollars seem like a small amount of money.
I have news for you. All industries are money hungry. I've never actually met someone who went to work every day without getting paid for it.
In ballpark numbers, there are 6 billion+ people on Earth. The median spending on medical care is around $500. That's a 3,000 billion dollar market. 20 billion is 0.7% of world medical expenditure.
Vaccines have a very low cost relative to their benefit. If you have a well-supported counterpoint to make, please do so.
For my views on pharmaceutical industry, I suggest you watch my video entitled "Big Pharma".
The reason there are exemptions for liability is because vaccines are a public good. The same exemptions exist for certain "strategic antibiotics" like Cipro. We can't afford for companies to decide not to make them, so the government is assuming the risk.
Thimerosal is a preservative. It makes possible multi-dose packaging, which is lower cost and more convenient to transport.
I note that you made a spelling error in the Mrak et al citation ("Glail" should be "Glial". The same spelling error led me to a page about or by Dr. Blaylock where the same error was made. All three of these citations are given. This leads me to a frank question: Have you read and understood these articles, or were they cut and pasted?
Dr. Blaylock is not a very credible source of information about immunology. His motivations are largely political.
I'm a bit confused. These are about glial cell mediated neuroinflammation. This is a cell-mediated or innate immune response, not a humoral response. The first says that Alzheimer's is definitively not the result of outside antigens. The second is from the JAPS, which is not a reputable research journal (please look it up in Wikipedia). The third also mentions several mechanisms for Alzheimer's, none of which involve outside antigens.
Everyone's thymus shrinks over time. It's properly called "thymic atrophy". There are dozens of reasons this might be accelerated. Stress, HIV, prolonged steroids, genetics, diet, other pathogens. Then there is the natural "immunosenescence", the aging of our immune system.
There is some evidence that vaccines in fact prevent thymic atrophy from developing into pathology.
I was vaccinated last month with a multi-dose multivalent flu shot. I'm also vaccinated against more diseases than you can name, thanks to my field work in South East Asia and Puerto Rico.
A PubMed search of "dementia AND thimerosal" produces two hits. Neither suggests a link between them. For comparison, there are 1,397 hits on thimerosal, and 118,032 hits on dementia. Can you clearly cite the studies you describe?
Yes, and a simple Google search will tell you a lot about Bigfoot and the existence of elves. Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. There may be propaganda on both sides, but ultimately, the people who know the most about infectious disease, immunology and neurology all advocate vaccination to prevent childhood diseases.
There's a university in your area. Would you be interested in an exchange with an expert medical researcher on the topic? I can help arrange it.
The typical "I am scientifically smart" argument. Correlation does not establish cause and effect, but cause and effect cannot be established without correlation. Once correlation is established, proof depends on other grounds. In the case of vaccines, are the symptoms consistent with chronic metal (or other) poisoning? Yes, they are; therefore, proof is established. You'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that vaccines cause autism, which is easy to demonstrate scientifically.
@cusanusnicolas The only guy who claims he has 'proved' MMR vaccine causes autism was Andrew Wakefield, and he was paid $453,000 by lawyers to produce this 'result' even though he had to blatantly fake it, and has therefore been struck off the medical register, forbidden from practising medicine and may still face fraud charges as he had his own 'alternative' vaccines from which he stood to make millons of dollars. Not that evidence matters to you anti-vaxers.
Your facts are also coming from the very people who gain financially from promoting vaccines, also risks reported by CDC are known to be far less than real world studies.
So that calls into doubt "facts" you use.
Real world: Sweden and Germany reduced it's vaccinations of children and have had no increase in sicknesses the US Pharma and media claims will happen.
I was wondering If you had any advice for when dealing with people who think in the way that was shown in your video. Like I was talking to someone recently who is "anti-flu vaccine/anti-H1N1 vaccine" and they posted links to natural health websites and anti-vaccine websites with articles saying things like "700% increase in miscarriages in women who took the H1N1 vaccine" etc. What's a good way to deal with this?
There really isn't any way to make progress, it's become a partisan issue, so if you decide to engage with an anti-vaxer, be prepared for a barrage with no end in sight. If you want to slow them down, ask to see sources in scientific literature. Most claims are anecdotal, correlative, or misquotes/partial truths.
Your best bet, as with a menacing dog, is to back away slowly and keep an eye out for a handy rock.
@Faustaao I was wondering how to deal with people like this too.
Although im on the other side of the fence ( i believe vaccines are meant to damage people, and that 9-11 is a inside job).
I'll ask the same question "What's a good way to deal with this?"
Just not giving a crap and letting people fall on their own sword doesn't work for me, if i didn't have empathy this question would have been easy ( Treat others as others Treat others, LOL).
Presentation from the 2000 Emerging Infectious Diseases Conference in Atlanta ,GA by CDC:
Adaptation of Bordetella pertussis to Vaccination: A Cause for Its Reemergence?
In The Netherlands , as in many other western countries, pertussis vaccines have been used extensively for more than 40 years. The current vaccine for B. pertussis is no longer effective and does not protect against the current strains.
Thimerosal has been linked to poisoning of mitochondrial pathways:
1. Yel L, et al. Thimerosal induces neuronal cell apoptosis by causing cytochrome c and apoptosis-inducing factor release from mitochondria. Int J Mol Med. 2005 Dec; 16(6):971–7.
Dr. S. Suissa of McGill University wrote the following comments that the NEJM editors declined to publish: Madsen et al. observed an adjusted rate ratio of autistic disorder after vaccination of 0.92 relative to no vaccination, when the crude rate ratio (my computation) was 1.45 (95% confidence interval 1.08-1.95). Moreover, the rate by time since vaccination increases to a high of 27.3 two years after vaccination (rate ratio 2.5) and decreases thereafter to 11.4 per 100,000 per year.
Here is one example of a peer reviewed paper [Ip P, Wong V, Ho M, Lee J, Wong W. Mercury exposure in children with autism spectrum disorder. J Child Neurol 2004; 19:431–4] where upon independent re-analysis of the data set, the original authors admitted they were wrong in stating no association existed. See reanalysis by DeSoto MC, Hitlan RT. Blood levels of mercury are related to a diagnosis of autism: A reanalysis of an important data set. J Child Neurol 2007; 22(11):1309–11.
32% of papers published by the NEJM relate to studies paid for
by drug companies, who then pay the journal up to $1M for reprints. This
led Marcia Angell to her conclusion that "it is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of ... authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine."
Compelling research shows that repeated stimulation of the systemic immune system results in first priming the microglia in the developing brain, followed by an intense microglial reaction with each successive series of vaccinations. Due to the brain's dependence on a timed sequence of cytokine and excitatory amino acid fluctuation, sequential vaccination result in alterations in this critical process that will not only result in synaptic and dendritic loss, but abnormal pathway development.
Please review Pink disease that appeared in the U.S. the late 1800s, reached epidemic levels in the early 1900s (about 1 in 500), and, coincidently, “disappeared” after the Calomel-laced teething powders were withdrawn from the U.S. market in the early 1940s. These teething powders contained 25% Calomel (chemically, mercurous chloride, Hg2Cl2; 84.98% mercury by weight]) and, “coincidently” like Thimerosal were also claimed to be safe without any toxicological proof of safety.
Vaccines with “trace” amounts of Thimerosal, by definition, “contain less than 1 microgram of mercury (Hg) per dose. The reduced-Thimerosal flu vaccine with 0.0002% mercury is equiv. to 1 microgram [µg] of Hg per 0.5 mL, or 2 µg of Hg per mL, which is the same as 2000 µg per liter; or 2000 parts per billion [ppb]. 2 ppb mercury is the U.S. EPA limit for drinking water 200 ppb mercury is the level that the EPA classifies as hazardous waste. 25,000 ppb in Hep B vacc.1991-2001
Also, are you familiar with peer-reviewed research and publications of the Geiers? You might ask: Why does autism favor males over females 4:1.
Thimerosal tends to bind to testosterone. The Geiers' have developed a protocol for children that have to various degrees recovered from what might be more properly termed "mercury poisoning"--which mimics diagnoses of autism.
Are you familiar with the Simpsonwood Conference between CDC and pharmaceutical manufacturers in year 2000?
Have you followed the U.K.'s use of MMR vaccine and understand how the U.K. came to license the Urabi-strain vaccine after Canada and the vaccine manufacturer had concluded it was causing too many cases of asceptic meningitis and an improved, safer, (but more costly) MMR vaccine was available. The U.K. entered into a no-fault contract with the manufacturer to use the Urabi-strain, and then only years later, did they begin using the safer vaccine.
An Investigation of the Association Between MMR Vaccination andAutism in Denmark, Goldman GS, Yazbak FE. Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, Fall 2004; 9(3):70-75. I have the .pdf if you would like it.
I have authored a peer-review paper and describe the biological mechanism associated with MMR and Autism and have many other experiences working with the Los Angeles Department of Health Services and CDC. Have you ever researched the U.K.s use of Urabi-strain MMR vaccine? I would like to attach
to documentation I have come to accumulate over the past 10 years from other physicians, researchers, and scientists as well. Please contact me at pearblossominc@aol.com.
Can you please properly cite the peer reviewed paper? I have access to quite a few medical journals, and I would like to review your evidence. I'd rather not begin an email exchange.
The CDC reports that autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) occur at the rate of 1 in 100 vaccinated children. There are 35,000 children in the HomeFirst Health plan that have never been vaccinated and ASD is 1 in 30,000. Also, childhood diabetes, obesity, multiple slerosis, allegies, asthma, and immno-suppprsive diseases are substantially lower in this unvaccinated group. There are many more vaccines required today than 30 years ago--and we now have chronic health problems among children.
Is there a scientific paper in a peer-reviewed journal on this data, or is it the self-reported data from a commercial for-profit insurance company run by a doctor who hosts an alt-med radio talk show?
Would you think there would be any chance of underdiagnosis in this group of 35,000 children? Are they likely to represent the US population as a whole in race, income, profession, geography, smoking status, genetic risks?
Big pharma is not your friend, you are mearly profit margins to them. And keeping you sick keeps them rich. Not too tough to figure our if you have half a brain cell left.
hi c0nc0rdance heard that there was risks of death with the cervical cancer vaccine but when i looked it up there seemed to be no direct deaths attributable to it just people dieing within a day or so of it from random things like drowning. any thoughts??
I went to NVIC (National Vaccine Information Center) and queried Gardasil. There have been 8 cases nationwide of Guillan Barre syndrome (which is elevated), but no reported deaths attributable to the vaccination.
What irresponsible or ignorant people do is link any injury, death, or condition that coincides with vaccination as "linked". If we vaccinate 100,000 people, 1 of them is going to be in a car wreck the same day. That does not mean vaccines cause car wrecks.
@C0nc0rdance thanks C0nc0rdance ye checked it myself but couldn't be sure. the scary thing about the friend i have who believes a lot of anti scientific medicine lies is she is in 3rd year applied physics in a university with me and knows all about critical thinking and the scientific method but still believes this anti vac shit and also anti medicine shit in general and it's rather scary.so do think there is any causation of the vaccine in regard to GB syndrome or is it a coincidence??
Anything that primes the immune system can help trigger immune pathology. GBS is essentially an immune response to certain elements of the nervous system. The most common trigger is a Campylobacter infection.
The "background rate" of GBS is 1.4 per 100,000. The rate in the study population was 5.1 per 100,000. That's a slight elevation, but it still might not indicate an elevated risk. I think it's worth researching, but not worth scrapping something beneficial.
The reverse is most likely true. This is very well studied, but not conclusive yet. Google "hygiene hypothesis". Children who grow up on farms have lower rates of asthma and food allergy when compared to urban children, even when income and other factors are normalized.
"10 persons in the group that received quadrivalent HPV vaccine and 7 persons in the placebo group died during the course of the trials... 7 deaths were attributed to motor-vehicle accidents (4 in vaccine and 3 in placebo), 3 were intentional overdose (nonstudy medications) or suicide (1 in vaccine and 2 in placebo), 2 - pulmonary embolus or venous thrombosis (1 each- vaccine and placebo), two were attributed to sepsis, 1 case each - cancer + arrhythmia (vaccine), and 1 case- asphyxia (placebo)"
A calming and perceptive outlook on this serious issue. As complicated as it is, and without in-dept knowledge of the disciplined sciences, most are not qualified to conclude for themselves. In an ideal world, logic and rationalization would become primary factors. Unfortunately, we live in a world where we can not trust our governmental influenced administrations and that fact alone changes everything.
Obviously I have you reeling so much you have to use the big "C" word to discredit me. Sure when you get backed up just drop the conspiracy theory line...Amateurish...If the government/media is spending millions running fear based propaganda campaigns to promote a product such as say vaccines, you better believe me and mine are staying far away. Corporatized health = conflicts of interest. Obviously the sicker we as a nation are, the richer the health corps. get. Have a nice labor day weekend.
@irojioqopiewjr The first vaccines did not need advertising, because people were dying from small pox, cholera, polio, whooping cough all the time, in every town and every family. This was ended with the invention of vaccination and people could really witness the benefit. Of course nowadays BECAUSE of vaccination, nobody knows someone that died of these diseases anymore and the immediate threat is gone. But we MUST NOT let our guard down.
My most recent proof that vaccines are dangerous is my grandmother, grandfather and sister were hit with the 3 way flu shot. 72 hours later my sister was sick from school with flu like symptoms. My grandmother got completely wiped out and is still sick. My grandfather has showed no signs of illness. So just in my home 2 out of three that took the stab developed the sickness the stab was suppose to prevent. Medical error number 3 kill of adults. Sure maybe then but NOW big pharma is total greed
@irojioqopiewjr Creation bestowed me and my daughter with a perfect immune system...ok then go share needles with magic Johnson, put that "perfect immune system" to the test
@noliesundead Dont you get it? Im not into needles. Now its time to go and get your mercury laced flu shot, they obviously have help your brain come up with such funny jokes. You old mad hatter you.
@irojioqopiewjr mercury laced flu shot? ok,its a good thing ethly merc can not pass the blood brain barrier. wait i'll do you one better i'll eat some tuna fish, that has way more merc in it,
@irojioqopiewjr 1st) You commit a logical fallacy: Just because B happens after A doesn't mean that B was caused by A.
2nd) Yes, flu shots can cause such reactions, depending on your own immune system. So what? Still better than getting the actual flu, at least for elderly people. Merely having some of the symptoms is not the problem. Having the virus prosper inside of you is the problem.
If is quite comical how fear and propaganda are used to get individuals to take the stab. Yes listen to the media about vaccines, they would never steer you in the wrong.
Following panic about the DPT vaccine, vaccination rates for pertussis went from 80 to 33 in the UK in three years (1975-1978). The result was an increase in the number of cases of whooping cough from 2,000 in 1972 to 100,000 in 1979. 33 very young children died, in spite of advanced medical care in a first world nation. Not being vaccinated makes you 23 times more likely to contract pertussis.
@C0nc0rdance There is always a new epidemic somewhere in the world...Its the media's job is to keep individuals in fear and giving up their own personal power in the process. Sounds as if they have done a wrap up job on you my friend. Creation bestowed me and my daughter with a perfect immune system, I think I will keep it that way, no need for toxic chemical injections to jeopardize it. I know you do not agree with my reasoning, but frankly, I dont agree with yours. Lets agree to disagree then.
This is conspiracy theory thinking. You project a motivation and follow it reductio ad absurdum to an unsupported conclusion. Perhaps there's not a vast evil conspiracy of all the world's doctors, nurses, scientists and veterinarians? Perhaps we've simply observed that vaccines are the best possible defense against viral disease.
No immune system is perfect, and this isn't just about YOU. It's a community health issue.
You get to have your own opinion, not your own facts.
@C0nc0rdance If you are vaccinated and I am not, then why worry? If vaccines do what you think they do and protect you from a disease, then in theory you can't get a disease I have if you are vaccinated. So shoot up all the vaccines you want, but to think for a second that anothers choice to opt-out of the vaccine phenomenon puts you at risk implies that you would likely advocate forced vaccinations, and if you do that then, well, I guess we are out of words.
There are many reasons you should get vaccinated to protect the people around you, but they key one is that many people are unable to be vaccinated for reasons of health or age or allergy. Newborns, the elderly, cancer patients, transplant patients, for example. You put those people at risk by being a disease reservoir.
You also provide a harbor for nearly eliminated disease, frustrating efforts to eradicate diseases and save lives. In short, you harm others by your actions.
@C0nc0rdance This is all your opinion, and you are entitled to an opinion, but you are not entitled to force others to vaccinate.Everything you just wrote, in my opinion, is a lie. Vaccines do more harm then good. Vaccines are not as effective as they are advertised.The companies that make vaccines are unethical, put profit over product safety, and are tied to eugenecists. I can cite strong, credible sources for my "opinion" as can you for yours. You have NO RIGHT to force vaccines on others.
I don't often deal in opinions. It is a fact that some people cannot be vaccinated. Herd immunity is a fact. Unvaccinated reservoirs of disease are also a fact, and it is a fact that they have frustrated efforts to eradicate disease. It is also a fact that whooping cough and measles are resurging from near oblivion, and that they will kill hundreds of unvaccinated kids this year, including babies in NICUs too young to be protected.
@C0nc0rdance All you are doing is regurgitating what you heard somone in a whirte coat say, and have adopted it as a fact. It is a fact that the polio vaccine paralyzed more people than it saved. It is a fact that vaccines were created by the Rockefellers in order to reduce the populatiopn. It is a fact that more people died from the swine flu vaccine in 1976 than died from the swine flu. It is a fact that 1 in 22 boys now has autism, and that vaccines contain mercury.
I AM someone in a white lab coat. I'm wearing one right now.
You think the Rockefellers invented vaccines? Hah! It was obviously the Illuminati's masters, the BigFoot Grey Bilderbergers!!!!!! They caused polio with their mind ray beams, which are free energy that travel through the eight dimension and smells of elderberries. Then, they time warped to 1976 and spread influenza to the New World Order through the Mark of the Beast!!!! TELL EVERYONE!!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
@C0nc0rdance I am wearing a white lab coat as well buddy. You can make fun of the truth all you want, but one day it is going to bite you in the ass. Salk was funded by the Rockefellers, thats a FACT. If you are not capable of cognitive thought regarding this issue then why are you wearing a white coat? Oh, I see, you probably slipped onto the computer when the psych nurse stepped out of the padded hallway you occupy.
@briankofke Okay, maybe the Rockefellers funded Salk. So? Just because a rich person funds a scientific endeavor doesn't mean that they endeavor is bad news for the rest of us. There are rich people who are willing to help the world. Take off the foil hat and click the "x" in the corner of the screen of the conspiracy sites.
BTW, many vaccines haven't contained mercury for years, yet the diagnosis is still increasing. So is it mercury, or perhaps better diagnosis techniques?
@AuraHero I wear no hat. You are apparently not aware of the Rockefeller family and their agenda and would rather dismiss the truths available to anyone with a search engine to investigate on your own involving their envolvment in eugenics. Put your head back into your ass and kiss your way of life goodbye due to to your ingnorance, If you are not aware of this, then it is not my responsibility to inform you, but your responsibility as a man to inform yourself for your families sake. Good luck
@briankofke Do you realize that the Internet is probably the last place you want to look for information? Hell, I can simply go on Google and find links to websites that belong to people who believe that the world is flat. You can find pretty much anything you want on the Internet, which is its biggest fallacy. Unless you can provide substantial proof from sources that cannot be questioned, then I cannot take it seriously.
@AuraHero I don't really care what you take seriously and what you don't. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions. As far as vaccinies are conerned; take them if you want! Believe in them all you want; I won't stop you, but when people like you start saying things like "forced vaccinations for the herd immunity", thats when you are messing with a mans freedom of choice. People that mess with freedoms are met first intellectually, then physically if the infringements continue.
@briankofke, So you're saying you've already gotten all your vaccinations? I bet you're very healthy. In fact, I bet you've never had mumps, measels, rubella, smallpox, leprocy, bubonic plague, tuberculosis, or polio. Funny how that works, isn't it? Yes, I'm sure that if you had the vision and freedom to deny treatment you'd have shown us all up, wouldn't you.
@attheveryend Anyone that can read can see that I said nothing of the sort. There is no vaccine for plague, TB or leprocy. The polio vaccine has been proven to cause polio in many documented cases. I had vaccines for 7 things in the early 80's as a child and the vaccines effectiveness has long ago worn away according to the pharmaceutical industries own studies. I was never vaccinated for measels, but my mother had it as a child and survived fine and passed the immunity on to me.
There are vaccines for Yersinia pestis (B. plague), and the vaccine for TB is also reasonably effective against the Hansen microbe.
The ORAL polio vaccine can induce poliomyelitis in about 1 in 750,000 vaccinations. The IPV has no such risk, but it requires refrigeration and sterile needles.
Your mother would have no way to pass on to you a lasting measles immunity from a disease she was exposed to in her youth. Would you care to elaborate on how you think this works?
@briankofke So what you're saying is that when somebody gets a disease, they build an immunity to it? Hrm...I wonder if we could give them the immunity without the disease...lets consider this a moment.
How could I give a person an immunity without getting them sick...Ah! I have an idea. lets give them a broken version of the disease that their immune system will respond to, but it isn't actually capable of getting them sick! I'll call this device a "turdsickle."
@briankofke wait, what? You mean that they already have these? And they call them vaccines? Interesting. And you say that something like one in ten thousand people get sick from these? Well shoot, you can't expect to sort through forty trillion individual virus cells and expect to half-kill them all. Nor can you expect everyone who is ever born to have even passable immune systems. shoot, I bet more people are born with crap immune systems than get sick from vaccines.
But I digress. you said you said nothing about being innoculated as a child, but then go right ahead and say you got innoculated as a child as if this in some way discredits me. Good work. Do you know why your mother's immunity passed to you? Because her body kept the virus around, and while the two of you were sharing blood, it propagated into you. This is literally indistinguishable from a vaccination.
@attheveryend I immediately recant this comment, because, as c0nc0rdance has just stated before me, there is no known way this can work and I defer to his expertise. I simply guessed at a mechanism that I had heard my own mother describe as a way that kids retain their chicken pox immunity into their adulthood, although it can return as shingles because the virus remains dorman in the body.
Herpes zoster (shingles) IS the result of a dormant virus re-awakening, but it doesn't transmit from mother to child in utero... there are viruses where this occurs, where it's called vertical transmission. HIV is the only human viral pathogen I can think of that is capable of this.
Mothers can give passive immunity to babies through breast milk or placental antibodies, but these antibodies don't last into adulthood... only a few months at most.
@C0nc0rdance Thanks for clearing that up, though I have a question regarding the mother-child "pathogen-barrier" if you will. My current understanding revolves around a direct link between the mother's blood and the child's blood. If that were the case, then pathogens (or really anything) would happily move through both unmolested. Since this does not occur, it seems that there is some kind of barrier, or moderated interchange between the two circulatory systems. What is that interchange?
The placenta doesn't allow Mom's blood to freely flow into Baby. There's an interface, and some things are permitted through, including some antibodies, but not most microbial pathogens. The only exception would be viruses that infect "placental privileged cells" like CTLs and monocytes.
Sometimes blood-borne viruses infect babies during delivery, which is still technically vertical transmission... although I don't think it should be.
I'm adopting your convention of starting a new line to comment, though I shall modify it with a comma for S&Gs.
If I'm understanding your preferred definition of verticle transmission, then I agree that it should involve only the biological pathways that form as a result of child development. It seems ambiguous to attribute infections resulting from what I would term "external contamination" like crawling through a bloodstormy canal in the dark.
@irojioqopiewjr Creation bestowed you with a perfect immune system? So why is there a Cholera outbreak in Haiti right now? Why did people die from small pox in the early days and why don't they die from it nowadays? How did life expectancy grow from 30 years to 80 years in the last century?
You're only benefiting from other people being vaccinated so it's quite unlikely to catch the disease from someone else.
Some individuals want to have their children injected with toxic compounds so more power to them, that is their choice/their own personal business. Now if I dont want my daughter injected with toxic chemicals multiple times throughout her life, then that is my OWN personal choice and do not want Big Medicine invading into my personal/private family affairs. IF these vaccines are as good as you make them up to be then if you get yours you should be protected, so dont worry about me and mine.
You will find that your rights do not extend to putting others at risk without good reason. There are people all around you who cannot be vaccinated, and you put their lives at risk by not vaccinating, as well as the life of your daughter. For example: cancer patients, transplant recipients, those with autoimmune disorders, allergies to egg, and the very young and very old.
You can't dump motor oil down the sink, either. Eventually your actions affect all of us.
@C0nc0rdance You will find that my rights extend to me being able to make an informed personal opinion about the health of myself and my family. I personally do not feel comfortable placing the health of my family into the domain of a total profit driven corporations. I have no fear/worry what so ever of the whooping cough. You can not just dump toxic chemicals into infants/children either, eventually these actions affect us all. Mercury, one of the strongest known neruotoxins, no thank you
DPT does not contain more than a trace of mercury. Less than you will find in a loaf of bread or can of tuna.
Do you base your medical decisions on fear of corporations? Is it possible for a corporation to make a highly effective, safe product driven only by the profit motive?
Are you only concerned with your own families health? Five infants are dead so far this year in California from whooping cough. They couldn't be vaccinated. It was a community acquired infection.
@C0nc0rdance There are things called inalianable rights, which are bestowed on all of us. One of the inalianable rights is that you can choose what goes into your body, and your childs body as well. Having everyone vaccinated so that you can feel safer is NPOT your inalianable right. If you fuck with peoples inalianable rights, then they will fuck with you; remember that.
Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. Your right not to be vaccinated ends when it puts hundreds of others at risk. Babies, the elderly, and cancer patients have rights, too. If you expose them by your refusal, and they die, who should the family blame?
We have rights, and we also have responsibilities in our society. If you wish to avoid those responsibilities, please find a nice deserted island and live there.
I have Asperger's Syndrome, a recognised form of High Function Autism. I was vaccinated with both DPT and MMR, like all young children.
1. Do I believe vaccination causes Autism? Based on the evidence; NO.
2. If I have them, will my children be vaccinated? Based on the evidence; YES.
3. If new evidence came to light providing my HFA was a result of MMR, would I regret being vaccinated? NO, because I'd rather be alive with Autism than dead of a preventable disease.
If people stop getting vaccinated, and lots of people die, there would be less pressure on earths ecosystems. Biodiversity could be conserved, and surviving generations of people could enjoy benefits of a healthier planet.
Why are the vaccines practically FORCED onto everyone? Why is it that people can not accept someones own/informed opinion? Because its contrary to their thoughts and beliefs? I hate to say it, but science can not accurately explain everything, be as it may try. I know thats a tough pill to swallow for many of you, but there is much we dont know. What is conscious-awareness, where do feelings/emotions come from, what are dreams? I mean they are now even requiring a chickenpox vaccine..Chickenpox!
This is some VERY bad logic. Vaccines, like roads, rule of law and trade, are a shared good. We protect each other with our immunity.
Much of your argument is called God of the Gaps, elevating to a special place the things we don't already know. Imagine what might have amazed you about our lack of understanding in 1200 AD.
Chickenpox has a case fatality of 1 in 60,000 in healthy people. In people with weak immune systems it is 7-28% fatal. Not a joke at all.
Thank you so much for putting this video out for the uneducated snake oil shills and paleoconservatives. Of course, they'll just call you either a shill for the drug companies or part of the worldwide masonic conspiracy.
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You even have that whiny pretentious white liberal voice. White liberals have caused all the problems in this world and will most definitely cause world war 3 with your fiat banking system, your imperialistic corporatist democracies, and your white liberal supremacist illusions of grandeur.
Note Codex's argument here. Does he address the evidence? Does he make a cogent argument, or cite scientific studies to support his point?
No, it's all ad hominem.
Why do conspiracy theorists always go to ad hominem? Because it's the only tactic they have left. Slander, innuendo, and fear tactics.
The really sad part is that you are simply regurgitating snake oil sales pitches, Codex. You demand no proof for your rabid beliefs. Think for yourself...
@C0nc0rdance That's not true, they don't ALWAYS go to ad hominen! the often prefer red herrings, false dichotomies, and a general assortment of non-sequiturs.
PS: talking about snake oil, could you please make a mention in a future video about shark oil in vaccines, it seems to be the new fad in the flu vaccine conspiracy theory.
@C0nc0rdance It's weird that, of all the various videos I've watched refuting crazy claims, yours seem to be both the most informative AND the recipient of the most vehement comments.
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Every pro-vaccine moron i've ever seen on youtube is either a white liberal narcissist moral relativist or is a white liberal narcissist moral relativist working for big pharma, which are you?
Well done sir, finally someone with some sense on YouTube! and of course, this was one of the first things beaten into my head during my Psyc education: "Correlation does not imply Causation", and by God did we recite it verbatim!
I do love how people keep mindlessly attributing the thiomersal in vaccines to causation of autism even though the instance has increased despite thiomersal being eliminated from them...Better look out, here comes the dreaded and elusive third variable problem!!!
You also use a statistic of getting hit by lighting. I guess that includes ppl in the most frigid of climates in iceland? Location when relating to lighting strikes is very important. There are certian areas that you are more likely to get hit by lighting. You can't just do broad calculation examples of the likelyhood of getting hit by lighting..... Where are the sources? The odds of someone in montana getting bit by a shark are still there even if there is no sharks in the state?
"Probably 1 person in 5 would not be alive today if it were not for vaccination" ~,~ more bias - 3:19
Through out the video there is no source listed on where you get your charts. Where are the sources to back up your claim? Have you done any experiments? Were they published? Funny you talk about correlation when data can easily be fixed so no standard deviations cause alarm or how the program interrprets the data can be manipulated to skew the results.
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sorry but my doctor an my family who work in the nhs all say the same its propaganda its not needed it is proven harmful
i take the media output as farce(i was a media student i know the lies) an you should , unless you want gulf war syndrome.
my best friends mum is a top doc , my cousin is nurse an so is my sister in law in, i went to school with another nurse an my old pool buddy was head nurse at the countess of chester hospital all of them work in cheshire,all of them refused the vaccine
@beingPOISONED being poisoned is right. giving your children a vaccine is the same as putting a gun to their heads and pulling the trigger. you sheeple are killing the minds of innocent children. Jenny Macarthy is the only person with the guts and intelligence to fight against the massive global coverup. we must support her!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!
Jenny Macarthy is a celebrity, so she knows what she is talking about. so does jim carrey. they know what is best for us sheeple!!
in these vaccines is unsafe i heard the tuna comments but i don't think people eat the can an the stomach filters it more than i direct injection into the bloodstream . i don't think so many medical staff would refuse an speak out if there was no truth in these claims why so many doctors
going on record speaking out against these ad junk vaccines
You have a choice. You can believe the Internet rumors, or you can ask your own family physician.
I'm a virologist, I read all these studies, and I can tell you that my kids are fully vaccinated.
Fear and paranoia are very easy to fall into when something is new or unexplained. It's human nature. But we have the tools to determine what is safe and what is not, and the very best data supports that the level of exposure here is not harmful.
You should also know that it is entirely possible to avoid all thimerosal. It is no longer in routine childhood vaccinations, and many forms of flu vaccine are mercury free. If you have concerns, talk with your doctor about finding the right options for you.
Just don't let fear govern your behavior. Try to use reason and logic in making the best decision for your health.
Methylmercury is in tuna and other fish, ethylmercury is what thimerosal breaks down to in the body, ethylmercury is toxic - but the amount is extremely small and the body has the ability to get rid of it in a couple weeks, vaccines are not injected into the bloodstream directly (it's the muscle). "So many medical staff"? - all the people I have found being anti-vaccine are selling homeopathic medicine and other quackery, some of their credentials are fake/revoked.
What I don't understand, however, is why people are still insisting that ethylmercury in vaccine preservative is even an issue currently. Since about 2001, there is essentially none in routine childhood vaccines. Flu vaccines sometimes have it, but that's about it.
If it were a contributor to autism or other neurological issues, we would expect to see numbers decrease during the last few years. We haven't.
I think that varies on what your watching on tv . For example if you watch a video about mathmatics on tv , your brain will be highly active as you do the excerises in the tv right? If you watch tv with critical thinking educational content then your brairn will be very active , It all depends on what you watch on tv, dont blame the tv =)
@yourboycal well of course, but i don't think parents are showing their kids videos about mathematics or other educational shows, they're showing baby einstein (which, for all its popularity, doesn't actually do anything for babies) and sprout, sesame street, etc. and parents themselves (ive seen this firsthand) watch their own shows 9noneducational) with their children around. but yea, it is the program, the amount watched daily, etc.
No, the correct answer to the question is: well, the type of television programming they tested in the study explained in the journal article BLAH that was published in BLAH was BLAH.
I wouldn't doubt that television has an effect on children - especially if it is coupled with a decrease in active interaction with your children (which isn't always the case!) - but "new studies" isn't a source anyone can critically look at.
can you tell me how to mirror or use this if you don't mind? i'm having a pandemic of stupidity near me and quite a few women who believe oprah and her guests more than doctors and scientists. this is a very serious request, several of these women are "committing" to refuse to vaccinate their children.
As a high-functioning autistic, I am disgusted by those people who claim that vaccines are the cause of autism in situations where other factors are completely unaccounted for. I recently saw a video by a woman who recalled a child whose hair contained a mercury content that went off the chart. The child was autistic, and been observed eating soil, which she connected with mineral deficiency, but ignored completely among potential causes of autism. Talk about turning a blind eye.
When he states the CDC autism rate in 2007, all I could find was a personal reference of "When my son was diagnosed 16 years ago the stats were 1:2,500.." this year. I found a Boston Globe article from February 9, 2007 that stated, "The study by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention calculated an average autism rate of 6.6 per 1,000."
I would -love- to see these studies he keeps talking about.
The only study I could find (a lazy google search) that EdR77203 might be speaking of was in New England Journal of Medicine (Vol. 347, No 19: Nov. 7, 2002: 1477-1483). No link was found between the MMR vaccine and autism, it says nothing of rates raising.
Is that why the medical community finds so many reasons to NEVER take a measure of the autism rate among the unvaccinated population?
The medical community reminds us that just because the autism rate grew up with the vaccine rate does not mean that vaccines cause autism. Then they claim that it is proven that there is no correlation without ever taking a measure of the autism rate in the control group, that is the unvaccinated group. I am impressed
@C0nc0rdance And be prepared to enforce Scopie's Law.
whaaat380 1 week ago
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whaaat380 1 week ago
Thank you for this informative video. I'm getting sick and tired of hearing people claim that there's "evidence" that vaccinations cause autism.
Kamikazu08 1 month ago
Am I the first to say...
THIS (0:11) IS THE REASON WHY CONSUELA NEEDS MORE LEMON PLEDGE
weurRTG 3 months ago
5:42 I thought the shoeboxes and long beard thing was invented by The Simpsons when Mr. Burns went crazy from owning a casino. What is that old man from in this part from?
spinynorman1982 3 months ago
@spinynorman1982
Howard Hughes, noted genius, recluse, billionaire, and extreme pathological germophobe/OCD sufferer. Later in life his genius turned to pathology. I'd strongly suggest you check out the Wiki page on him as an intro. He changed the aviation industry during his productive years, and was a fascinating man of his time. His legacy, the Howard Hughes Medical Institute, funds some of the top biomedical research in the US and I thank his memory for that.
C0nc0rdance 3 months ago
@C0nc0rdance I will thank you sir. I love the videos! I was actually hoping that Potholer54 would debunk homeopathy, and I was hoping that he would tackle it and make some videos about it. Then I found your channel through thunderf00t and realized that you already have made videos about it! So thank you. I plan to watch all your videos.
spinynorman1982 3 months ago
@brianofke You know all those facts you listed a couple posts down? Those arent facts. Thats what we sane people call "crazy bullshit". Now, instead of telling me to "do some research" why dont you post some information that backs you up, and where you got that information.
naphlongs 9 months ago 3
Aluminum salts hey? yum yum.
Sign me up for some breast cancer.
herbaliser76 11 months ago
Vaccines clearly trigger autism. There's no defense to the contrary.
9pt9 1 year ago
@9pt9
[citation needed]
LarsJanZeeuw 11 months ago
SORRY MATE. GOOGLE THE SIMPSONWOOD REPORT. VACCINES ARE NEITHER SAFE OR EFFECTIVE. THEY CAUSE AUTISM, ADD, ADHD ETC... AND THE BIG PHARMA COMPANIES KNOW THIS. THEY PUT PROFITS OVER PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN. A BIG NASTY COVER UP.
FREECHEESECOMPANY 1 year ago
@FREECHEESECOMPANY BULLSHIT!!
marinnos97 1 year ago
@FREECHEESECOMPANY You got that right bro.
9pt9 1 year ago
@Slave2Reason
Yes, preservatives are not about safety, they are about shelf-life, stability, and shipping. I believe the manufacturers of vaccines would be quite happy to sell you single-dose vaccines for a higher price and smaller inventory costs. In fact, they do.
However, until sufficient evidence exists that thimerosal, at the concentrations used, has a negative health effect, why shouldn't we keep the costs and logistical complexity of vaccination down?
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
@C0nc0rdance I slightly disagree with you on this point; bacteriostatics were originally added to vaccines to prevent the growth of exogenous pathogens that might otherwise infect the vaccine (obviously, injecting a contaminated dose into the patient has serious repercussions). Also, as I understand it, the FDA has phased thiomersal out of most vaccines, not because they found evidence of toxicity, but because of public fears of toxicity.
djk102391 1 year ago
@C0nc0rdance there are many different preservatives they could have chose other than one that contains toxic mercury.
tkuliocowske 1 year ago
@tkuliocowske
They did. In 2001, all vaccines were switched to mercury-free except for the multi-use form of influenza vaccine.
Did the autism rate suddenly drop following the removal of thimerosal?
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
@C0nc0rdance
no they say they did, but many still had it, and also people react differently to ingredients. its the amount of vaccinations which by 2008 was 68- that is an absurd number of vaccines to give. no wonder kids are suffering from all kids of issues
TheNativecali 10 months ago
@Slave2Reason
The global vaccine market is around 20 billion USD ($3/person). Total global pharmaceutical sales are estimated at 1100 billion USD. Vaccines aren't a major revenue source for anybody, but we need them. They prevent catastrophic disease. Thus, the manufacturers must be enticed to continue making them. We do the same for sutures, select antibiotics and military ammunition. Protected domestic markets.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
@C0nc0rdance Just because the pharmaceutical industry is so insanely massive and money hungry should not make 20 billion dollars seem like a small amount of money.
tkuliocowske 1 year ago
@tkuliocowske
I have news for you. All industries are money hungry. I've never actually met someone who went to work every day without getting paid for it.
In ballpark numbers, there are 6 billion+ people on Earth. The median spending on medical care is around $500. That's a 3,000 billion dollar market. 20 billion is 0.7% of world medical expenditure.
Vaccines have a very low cost relative to their benefit. If you have a well-supported counterpoint to make, please do so.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
@Slave2Reason
For my views on pharmaceutical industry, I suggest you watch my video entitled "Big Pharma".
The reason there are exemptions for liability is because vaccines are a public good. The same exemptions exist for certain "strategic antibiotics" like Cipro. We can't afford for companies to decide not to make them, so the government is assuming the risk.
Thimerosal is a preservative. It makes possible multi-dose packaging, which is lower cost and more convenient to transport.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
@Slave2Reason
I note that you made a spelling error in the Mrak et al citation ("Glail" should be "Glial". The same spelling error led me to a page about or by Dr. Blaylock where the same error was made. All three of these citations are given. This leads me to a frank question: Have you read and understood these articles, or were they cut and pasted?
Dr. Blaylock is not a very credible source of information about immunology. His motivations are largely political.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
@Slave2Reason
Thanks for the citations.
I'm a bit confused. These are about glial cell mediated neuroinflammation. This is a cell-mediated or innate immune response, not a humoral response. The first says that Alzheimer's is definitively not the result of outside antigens. The second is from the JAPS, which is not a reputable research journal (please look it up in Wikipedia). The third also mentions several mechanisms for Alzheimer's, none of which involve outside antigens.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
@Slave2Reason
Everyone's thymus shrinks over time. It's properly called "thymic atrophy". There are dozens of reasons this might be accelerated. Stress, HIV, prolonged steroids, genetics, diet, other pathogens. Then there is the natural "immunosenescence", the aging of our immune system.
There is some evidence that vaccines in fact prevent thymic atrophy from developing into pathology.
(Immun Ageing. 2010 Jun 14;7:7)
(J Pathol. 2007 Jan;211(2):144-56.)
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
@Slave2Reason
I was vaccinated last month with a multi-dose multivalent flu shot. I'm also vaccinated against more diseases than you can name, thanks to my field work in South East Asia and Puerto Rico.
A PubMed search of "dementia AND thimerosal" produces two hits. Neither suggests a link between them. For comparison, there are 1,397 hits on thimerosal, and 118,032 hits on dementia. Can you clearly cite the studies you describe?
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
@Slave2Reason
Yes, and a simple Google search will tell you a lot about Bigfoot and the existence of elves. Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. There may be propaganda on both sides, but ultimately, the people who know the most about infectious disease, immunology and neurology all advocate vaccination to prevent childhood diseases.
There's a university in your area. Would you be interested in an exchange with an expert medical researcher on the topic? I can help arrange it.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
let me guess you're also a fluoride proponent
SacramentoNews 1 year ago
@SacramentoNews I was wondering the same thing?
HorusAmenRa 1 year ago
The typical "I am scientifically smart" argument. Correlation does not establish cause and effect, but cause and effect cannot be established without correlation. Once correlation is established, proof depends on other grounds. In the case of vaccines, are the symptoms consistent with chronic metal (or other) poisoning? Yes, they are; therefore, proof is established. You'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that vaccines cause autism, which is easy to demonstrate scientifically.
cusanusnicolas 1 year ago
@cusanusnicolas May I see the paper that establishes this as fact? And don't give me that Wakefield paper. We all know that is trash.
AuraHero 1 year ago
@cusanusnicolas The only guy who claims he has 'proved' MMR vaccine causes autism was Andrew Wakefield, and he was paid $453,000 by lawyers to produce this 'result' even though he had to blatantly fake it, and has therefore been struck off the medical register, forbidden from practising medicine and may still face fraud charges as he had his own 'alternative' vaccines from which he stood to make millons of dollars. Not that evidence matters to you anti-vaxers.
astrophonix 1 year ago
I noticed your mathematics was in error at 8:20
10 per million is not 0.00000001% it is 0.001%
Inaccuracies like this are misleading.
Your facts are also coming from the very people who gain financially from promoting vaccines, also risks reported by CDC are known to be far less than real world studies.
So that calls into doubt "facts" you use.
Real world: Sweden and Germany reduced it's vaccinations of children and have had no increase in sicknesses the US Pharma and media claims will happen.
BryTee 1 year ago
@BryTee
They did? When? What vaccines? Which vaccines were routinely given in Germany before date X and are not given out anymore since that day.
And now please submit some actual sources.
giliellthesecond 1 year ago
@BryTee "10 per million is not 0.00000001% it is 0.001%
Inaccuracies like this are misleading."
0.00001%
Pot, kettle, you get the picture. :-)
419Films 3 months ago
@419Films Not 0.00001% either.
Look: 10/1,000,000 = 0.00001 true, but for a percentage you multiply by 100, so you get 0.001%
BryTee 3 months ago
@BryTee Yes, of course. Mea culpa. Shouldn't be doing math when I'm tired. LOL.
419Films 3 months ago
Hi c0nc0rdance
I was wondering If you had any advice for when dealing with people who think in the way that was shown in your video. Like I was talking to someone recently who is "anti-flu vaccine/anti-H1N1 vaccine" and they posted links to natural health websites and anti-vaccine websites with articles saying things like "700% increase in miscarriages in women who took the H1N1 vaccine" etc. What's a good way to deal with this?
Faustaao 1 year ago
@Faustaao
There really isn't any way to make progress, it's become a partisan issue, so if you decide to engage with an anti-vaxer, be prepared for a barrage with no end in sight. If you want to slow them down, ask to see sources in scientific literature. Most claims are anecdotal, correlative, or misquotes/partial truths.
Your best bet, as with a menacing dog, is to back away slowly and keep an eye out for a handy rock.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago 16
@Faustaao I was wondering how to deal with people like this too.
Although im on the other side of the fence ( i believe vaccines are meant to damage people, and that 9-11 is a inside job).
I'll ask the same question "What's a good way to deal with this?"
Just not giving a crap and letting people fall on their own sword doesn't work for me, if i didn't have empathy this question would have been easy ( Treat others as others Treat others, LOL).
HorusAmenRa 1 year ago
Presentation from the 2000 Emerging Infectious Diseases Conference in Atlanta ,GA by CDC:
Adaptation of Bordetella pertussis to Vaccination: A Cause for Its Reemergence?
In The Netherlands , as in many other western countries, pertussis vaccines have been used extensively for more than 40 years. The current vaccine for B. pertussis is no longer effective and does not protect against the current strains.
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
Thimerosal has been linked to poisoning of mitochondrial pathways:
1. Yel L, et al. Thimerosal induces neuronal cell apoptosis by causing cytochrome c and apoptosis-inducing factor release from mitochondria. Int J Mol Med. 2005 Dec; 16(6):971–7.
2. Humphrey ML, et al. Mitochondrial mediated Thimerosal-induced apoptosis.... Neurotoxicology 2005 Jun; 26(3):407–16.
3..Parys JB, et al. Bell-shaped activation of inositol-1,4,5-trisphosphate-induced .... Pflugers Arch. 1993 Sep; 424(5-6):516–22.
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
Dr. S. Suissa of McGill University wrote the following comments that the NEJM editors declined to publish: Madsen et al. observed an adjusted rate ratio of autistic disorder after vaccination of 0.92 relative to no vaccination, when the crude rate ratio (my computation) was 1.45 (95% confidence interval 1.08-1.95). Moreover, the rate by time since vaccination increases to a high of 27.3 two years after vaccination (rate ratio 2.5) and decreases thereafter to 11.4 per 100,000 per year.
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
Here is one example of a peer reviewed paper [Ip P, Wong V, Ho M, Lee J, Wong W. Mercury exposure in children with autism spectrum disorder. J Child Neurol 2004; 19:431–4] where upon independent re-analysis of the data set, the original authors admitted they were wrong in stating no association existed. See reanalysis by DeSoto MC, Hitlan RT. Blood levels of mercury are related to a diagnosis of autism: A reanalysis of an important data set. J Child Neurol 2007; 22(11):1309–11.
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
32% of papers published by the NEJM relate to studies paid for
by drug companies, who then pay the journal up to $1M for reprints. This
led Marcia Angell to her conclusion that "it is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of ... authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine."
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
Compelling research shows that repeated stimulation of the systemic immune system results in first priming the microglia in the developing brain, followed by an intense microglial reaction with each successive series of vaccinations. Due to the brain's dependence on a timed sequence of cytokine and excitatory amino acid fluctuation, sequential vaccination result in alterations in this critical process that will not only result in synaptic and dendritic loss, but abnormal pathway development.
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
Please review Pink disease that appeared in the U.S. the late 1800s, reached epidemic levels in the early 1900s (about 1 in 500), and, coincidently, “disappeared” after the Calomel-laced teething powders were withdrawn from the U.S. market in the early 1940s. These teething powders contained 25% Calomel (chemically, mercurous chloride, Hg2Cl2; 84.98% mercury by weight]) and, “coincidently” like Thimerosal were also claimed to be safe without any toxicological proof of safety.
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
Vaccines with “trace” amounts of Thimerosal, by definition, “contain less than 1 microgram of mercury (Hg) per dose. The reduced-Thimerosal flu vaccine with 0.0002% mercury is equiv. to 1 microgram [µg] of Hg per 0.5 mL, or 2 µg of Hg per mL, which is the same as 2000 µg per liter; or 2000 parts per billion [ppb]. 2 ppb mercury is the U.S. EPA limit for drinking water 200 ppb mercury is the level that the EPA classifies as hazardous waste. 25,000 ppb in Hep B vacc.1991-2001
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
Also, are you familiar with peer-reviewed research and publications of the Geiers? You might ask: Why does autism favor males over females 4:1.
Thimerosal tends to bind to testosterone. The Geiers' have developed a protocol for children that have to various degrees recovered from what might be more properly termed "mercury poisoning"--which mimics diagnoses of autism.
Are you familiar with the Simpsonwood Conference between CDC and pharmaceutical manufacturers in year 2000?
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
Have you followed the U.K.'s use of MMR vaccine and understand how the U.K. came to license the Urabi-strain vaccine after Canada and the vaccine manufacturer had concluded it was causing too many cases of asceptic meningitis and an improved, safer, (but more costly) MMR vaccine was available. The U.K. entered into a no-fault contract with the manufacturer to use the Urabi-strain, and then only years later, did they begin using the safer vaccine.
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
An Investigation of the Association Between MMR Vaccination andAutism in Denmark, Goldman GS, Yazbak FE. Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, Fall 2004; 9(3):70-75. I have the .pdf if you would like it.
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
Dear C0nc0rdance,
I have authored a peer-review paper and describe the biological mechanism associated with MMR and Autism and have many other experiences working with the Los Angeles Department of Health Services and CDC. Have you ever researched the U.K.s use of Urabi-strain MMR vaccine? I would like to attach
to documentation I have come to accumulate over the past 10 years from other physicians, researchers, and scientists as well. Please contact me at pearblossominc@aol.com.
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
@GSGoldman1
Can you please properly cite the peer reviewed paper? I have access to quite a few medical journals, and I would like to review your evidence. I'd rather not begin an email exchange.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago 2
The CDC reports that autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) occur at the rate of 1 in 100 vaccinated children. There are 35,000 children in the HomeFirst Health plan that have never been vaccinated and ASD is 1 in 30,000. Also, childhood diabetes, obesity, multiple slerosis, allegies, asthma, and immno-suppprsive diseases are substantially lower in this unvaccinated group. There are many more vaccines required today than 30 years ago--and we now have chronic health problems among children.
GSGoldman1 1 year ago
@GSGoldman1
Is there a scientific paper in a peer-reviewed journal on this data, or is it the self-reported data from a commercial for-profit insurance company run by a doctor who hosts an alt-med radio talk show?
Would you think there would be any chance of underdiagnosis in this group of 35,000 children? Are they likely to represent the US population as a whole in race, income, profession, geography, smoking status, genetic risks?
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
Big pharma is not your friend, you are mearly profit margins to them. And keeping you sick keeps them rich. Not too tough to figure our if you have half a brain cell left.
irojioqopiewjr 1 year ago
Oh my god, this video is AWESOME!
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 year ago
hi c0nc0rdance heard that there was risks of death with the cervical cancer vaccine but when i looked it up there seemed to be no direct deaths attributable to it just people dieing within a day or so of it from random things like drowning. any thoughts??
johnnyd101 1 year ago
@johnnyd101
I went to NVIC (National Vaccine Information Center) and queried Gardasil. There have been 8 cases nationwide of Guillan Barre syndrome (which is elevated), but no reported deaths attributable to the vaccination.
What irresponsible or ignorant people do is link any injury, death, or condition that coincides with vaccination as "linked". If we vaccinate 100,000 people, 1 of them is going to be in a car wreck the same day. That does not mean vaccines cause car wrecks.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago 3
@C0nc0rdance thanks C0nc0rdance ye checked it myself but couldn't be sure. the scary thing about the friend i have who believes a lot of anti scientific medicine lies is she is in 3rd year applied physics in a university with me and knows all about critical thinking and the scientific method but still believes this anti vac shit and also anti medicine shit in general and it's rather scary.so do think there is any causation of the vaccine in regard to GB syndrome or is it a coincidence??
johnnyd101 1 year ago
@johnnyd101
Anything that primes the immune system can help trigger immune pathology. GBS is essentially an immune response to certain elements of the nervous system. The most common trigger is a Campylobacter infection.
The "background rate" of GBS is 1.4 per 100,000. The rate in the study population was 5.1 per 100,000. That's a slight elevation, but it still might not indicate an elevated risk. I think it's worth researching, but not worth scrapping something beneficial.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
@C0nc0rdance
"Anything that primes the immune system can help trigger immune pathology."
So would you say that having a low level of hygiene could increase your chances of getting an autoimmune disease?
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 1 year ago
@sdrawkcabgnipytmi
The reverse is most likely true. This is very well studied, but not conclusive yet. Google "hygiene hypothesis". Children who grow up on farms have lower rates of asthma and food allergy when compared to urban children, even when income and other factors are normalized.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
"10 persons in the group that received quadrivalent HPV vaccine and 7 persons in the placebo group died during the course of the trials... 7 deaths were attributed to motor-vehicle accidents (4 in vaccine and 3 in placebo), 3 were intentional overdose (nonstudy medications) or suicide (1 in vaccine and 2 in placebo), 2 - pulmonary embolus or venous thrombosis (1 each- vaccine and placebo), two were attributed to sepsis, 1 case each - cancer + arrhythmia (vaccine), and 1 case- asphyxia (placebo)"
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago 3
A calming and perceptive outlook on this serious issue. As complicated as it is, and without in-dept knowledge of the disciplined sciences, most are not qualified to conclude for themselves. In an ideal world, logic and rationalization would become primary factors. Unfortunately, we live in a world where we can not trust our governmental influenced administrations and that fact alone changes everything.
nwopuppet 1 year ago
Haha, this video is awesome! Thumbs up! : )
winterstellar 1 year ago
If only they did :( high functioning autism FTW :(
unassumption 1 year ago
Excellent example to illustrate a concept alien to conspiracy theorists. More lemons now!!!
truthiness2010 1 year ago
Now I'm not a doubter of science, however I do like to understand everything, is "conclusively shown" something static?
mrdaym 1 year ago
"Vaccines are great and they also make great Trojan Horses"
Dr. Bruno .....
You know who I am speaking of :)
MAGNETGRUNT 1 year ago
this video sucks you are a smart idiot
VICSWEB1 1 year ago
Obviously I have you reeling so much you have to use the big "C" word to discredit me. Sure when you get backed up just drop the conspiracy theory line...Amateurish...If the government/media is spending millions running fear based propaganda campaigns to promote a product such as say vaccines, you better believe me and mine are staying far away. Corporatized health = conflicts of interest. Obviously the sicker we as a nation are, the richer the health corps. get. Have a nice labor day weekend.
irojioqopiewjr 1 year ago
@irojioqopiewjr The first vaccines did not need advertising, because people were dying from small pox, cholera, polio, whooping cough all the time, in every town and every family. This was ended with the invention of vaccination and people could really witness the benefit. Of course nowadays BECAUSE of vaccination, nobody knows someone that died of these diseases anymore and the immediate threat is gone. But we MUST NOT let our guard down.
lagerbaer 1 year ago
My most recent proof that vaccines are dangerous is my grandmother, grandfather and sister were hit with the 3 way flu shot. 72 hours later my sister was sick from school with flu like symptoms. My grandmother got completely wiped out and is still sick. My grandfather has showed no signs of illness. So just in my home 2 out of three that took the stab developed the sickness the stab was suppose to prevent. Medical error number 3 kill of adults. Sure maybe then but NOW big pharma is total greed
irojioqopiewjr 1 year ago
@irojioqopiewjr Creation bestowed me and my daughter with a perfect immune system...ok then go share needles with magic Johnson, put that "perfect immune system" to the test
noliesundead 1 year ago
@noliesundead Dont you get it? Im not into needles. Now its time to go and get your mercury laced flu shot, they obviously have help your brain come up with such funny jokes. You old mad hatter you.
irojioqopiewjr 1 year ago
@irojioqopiewjr mercury laced flu shot? ok,its a good thing ethly merc can not pass the blood brain barrier. wait i'll do you one better i'll eat some tuna fish, that has way more merc in it,
noliesundead 1 year ago 2
@irojioqopiewjr 1st) You commit a logical fallacy: Just because B happens after A doesn't mean that B was caused by A.
2nd) Yes, flu shots can cause such reactions, depending on your own immune system. So what? Still better than getting the actual flu, at least for elderly people. Merely having some of the symptoms is not the problem. Having the virus prosper inside of you is the problem.
lagerbaer 1 year ago
If is quite comical how fear and propaganda are used to get individuals to take the stab. Yes listen to the media about vaccines, they would never steer you in the wrong.
irojioqopiewjr 1 year ago
@irojioqopiewjr
Following panic about the DPT vaccine, vaccination rates for pertussis went from 80 to 33 in the UK in three years (1975-1978). The result was an increase in the number of cases of whooping cough from 2,000 in 1972 to 100,000 in 1979. 33 very young children died, in spite of advanced medical care in a first world nation. Not being vaccinated makes you 23 times more likely to contract pertussis.
There's a new epidemic in California 2010.
I never use fear. These are facts.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago 4
@C0nc0rdance There is always a new epidemic somewhere in the world...Its the media's job is to keep individuals in fear and giving up their own personal power in the process. Sounds as if they have done a wrap up job on you my friend. Creation bestowed me and my daughter with a perfect immune system, I think I will keep it that way, no need for toxic chemical injections to jeopardize it. I know you do not agree with my reasoning, but frankly, I dont agree with yours. Lets agree to disagree then.
irojioqopiewjr 1 year ago
@irojioqopiewjr
This is conspiracy theory thinking. You project a motivation and follow it reductio ad absurdum to an unsupported conclusion. Perhaps there's not a vast evil conspiracy of all the world's doctors, nurses, scientists and veterinarians? Perhaps we've simply observed that vaccines are the best possible defense against viral disease.
No immune system is perfect, and this isn't just about YOU. It's a community health issue.
You get to have your own opinion, not your own facts.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago 20
@C0nc0rdance couldn´t have said it better myself.
prowled 1 year ago
@C0nc0rdance If you are vaccinated and I am not, then why worry? If vaccines do what you think they do and protect you from a disease, then in theory you can't get a disease I have if you are vaccinated. So shoot up all the vaccines you want, but to think for a second that anothers choice to opt-out of the vaccine phenomenon puts you at risk implies that you would likely advocate forced vaccinations, and if you do that then, well, I guess we are out of words.
briankofke 10 months ago
@briankofke
There are many reasons you should get vaccinated to protect the people around you, but they key one is that many people are unable to be vaccinated for reasons of health or age or allergy. Newborns, the elderly, cancer patients, transplant patients, for example. You put those people at risk by being a disease reservoir.
You also provide a harbor for nearly eliminated disease, frustrating efforts to eradicate diseases and save lives. In short, you harm others by your actions.
C0nc0rdance 10 months ago
@C0nc0rdance This is all your opinion, and you are entitled to an opinion, but you are not entitled to force others to vaccinate.Everything you just wrote, in my opinion, is a lie. Vaccines do more harm then good. Vaccines are not as effective as they are advertised.The companies that make vaccines are unethical, put profit over product safety, and are tied to eugenecists. I can cite strong, credible sources for my "opinion" as can you for yours. You have NO RIGHT to force vaccines on others.
briankofke 10 months ago
@briankofke
I don't often deal in opinions. It is a fact that some people cannot be vaccinated. Herd immunity is a fact. Unvaccinated reservoirs of disease are also a fact, and it is a fact that they have frustrated efforts to eradicate disease. It is also a fact that whooping cough and measles are resurging from near oblivion, and that they will kill hundreds of unvaccinated kids this year, including babies in NICUs too young to be protected.
Those are facts.
C0nc0rdance 10 months ago
@C0nc0rdance All you are doing is regurgitating what you heard somone in a whirte coat say, and have adopted it as a fact. It is a fact that the polio vaccine paralyzed more people than it saved. It is a fact that vaccines were created by the Rockefellers in order to reduce the populatiopn. It is a fact that more people died from the swine flu vaccine in 1976 than died from the swine flu. It is a fact that 1 in 22 boys now has autism, and that vaccines contain mercury.
briankofke 10 months ago
@briankofke
I AM someone in a white lab coat. I'm wearing one right now.
You think the Rockefellers invented vaccines? Hah! It was obviously the Illuminati's masters, the BigFoot Grey Bilderbergers!!!!!! They caused polio with their mind ray beams, which are free energy that travel through the eight dimension and smells of elderberries. Then, they time warped to 1976 and spread influenza to the New World Order through the Mark of the Beast!!!! TELL EVERYONE!!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
C0nc0rdance 10 months ago 7
@C0nc0rdance I am wearing a white lab coat as well buddy. You can make fun of the truth all you want, but one day it is going to bite you in the ass. Salk was funded by the Rockefellers, thats a FACT. If you are not capable of cognitive thought regarding this issue then why are you wearing a white coat? Oh, I see, you probably slipped onto the computer when the psych nurse stepped out of the padded hallway you occupy.
briankofke 10 months ago
@briankofke Okay, maybe the Rockefellers funded Salk. So? Just because a rich person funds a scientific endeavor doesn't mean that they endeavor is bad news for the rest of us. There are rich people who are willing to help the world. Take off the foil hat and click the "x" in the corner of the screen of the conspiracy sites.
BTW, many vaccines haven't contained mercury for years, yet the diagnosis is still increasing. So is it mercury, or perhaps better diagnosis techniques?
AuraHero 10 months ago 2
@AuraHero I wear no hat. You are apparently not aware of the Rockefeller family and their agenda and would rather dismiss the truths available to anyone with a search engine to investigate on your own involving their envolvment in eugenics. Put your head back into your ass and kiss your way of life goodbye due to to your ingnorance, If you are not aware of this, then it is not my responsibility to inform you, but your responsibility as a man to inform yourself for your families sake. Good luck
briankofke 10 months ago
@briankofke Do you realize that the Internet is probably the last place you want to look for information? Hell, I can simply go on Google and find links to websites that belong to people who believe that the world is flat. You can find pretty much anything you want on the Internet, which is its biggest fallacy. Unless you can provide substantial proof from sources that cannot be questioned, then I cannot take it seriously.
AuraHero 10 months ago 2
@AuraHero I don't really care what you take seriously and what you don't. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions. As far as vaccinies are conerned; take them if you want! Believe in them all you want; I won't stop you, but when people like you start saying things like "forced vaccinations for the herd immunity", thats when you are messing with a mans freedom of choice. People that mess with freedoms are met first intellectually, then physically if the infringements continue.
briankofke 10 months ago
@briankofke, I wager you recently updated your tetanis immunization and you're a bit fussy over it.
attheveryend 3 months ago
@attheveryend I have not had any shots for many years now. Nothing I said is "fussy". The only thing you likely find "fussy" is accepting the truth.
briankofke 3 months ago
@briankofke, So you're saying you've already gotten all your vaccinations? I bet you're very healthy. In fact, I bet you've never had mumps, measels, rubella, smallpox, leprocy, bubonic plague, tuberculosis, or polio. Funny how that works, isn't it? Yes, I'm sure that if you had the vision and freedom to deny treatment you'd have shown us all up, wouldn't you.
attheveryend 3 months ago
@attheveryend Anyone that can read can see that I said nothing of the sort. There is no vaccine for plague, TB or leprocy. The polio vaccine has been proven to cause polio in many documented cases. I had vaccines for 7 things in the early 80's as a child and the vaccines effectiveness has long ago worn away according to the pharmaceutical industries own studies. I was never vaccinated for measels, but my mother had it as a child and survived fine and passed the immunity on to me.
briankofke 3 months ago
@briankofke
There are vaccines for Yersinia pestis (B. plague), and the vaccine for TB is also reasonably effective against the Hansen microbe.
The ORAL polio vaccine can induce poliomyelitis in about 1 in 750,000 vaccinations. The IPV has no such risk, but it requires refrigeration and sterile needles.
Your mother would have no way to pass on to you a lasting measles immunity from a disease she was exposed to in her youth. Would you care to elaborate on how you think this works?
C0nc0rdance 3 months ago
@briankofke So what you're saying is that when somebody gets a disease, they build an immunity to it? Hrm...I wonder if we could give them the immunity without the disease...lets consider this a moment.
How could I give a person an immunity without getting them sick...Ah! I have an idea. lets give them a broken version of the disease that their immune system will respond to, but it isn't actually capable of getting them sick! I'll call this device a "turdsickle."
attheveryend 3 months ago
@briankofke wait, what? You mean that they already have these? And they call them vaccines? Interesting. And you say that something like one in ten thousand people get sick from these? Well shoot, you can't expect to sort through forty trillion individual virus cells and expect to half-kill them all. Nor can you expect everyone who is ever born to have even passable immune systems. shoot, I bet more people are born with crap immune systems than get sick from vaccines.
attheveryend 3 months ago
But I digress. you said you said nothing about being innoculated as a child, but then go right ahead and say you got innoculated as a child as if this in some way discredits me. Good work. Do you know why your mother's immunity passed to you? Because her body kept the virus around, and while the two of you were sharing blood, it propagated into you. This is literally indistinguishable from a vaccination.
Also, when was your mother a child?
attheveryend 3 months ago
@attheveryend I immediately recant this comment, because, as c0nc0rdance has just stated before me, there is no known way this can work and I defer to his expertise. I simply guessed at a mechanism that I had heard my own mother describe as a way that kids retain their chicken pox immunity into their adulthood, although it can return as shingles because the virus remains dorman in the body.
attheveryend 3 months ago
@attheveryend
Herpes zoster (shingles) IS the result of a dormant virus re-awakening, but it doesn't transmit from mother to child in utero... there are viruses where this occurs, where it's called vertical transmission. HIV is the only human viral pathogen I can think of that is capable of this.
Mothers can give passive immunity to babies through breast milk or placental antibodies, but these antibodies don't last into adulthood... only a few months at most.
C0nc0rdance 3 months ago
@C0nc0rdance Thanks for clearing that up, though I have a question regarding the mother-child "pathogen-barrier" if you will. My current understanding revolves around a direct link between the mother's blood and the child's blood. If that were the case, then pathogens (or really anything) would happily move through both unmolested. Since this does not occur, it seems that there is some kind of barrier, or moderated interchange between the two circulatory systems. What is that interchange?
attheveryend 3 months ago
@attheveryend
The placenta doesn't allow Mom's blood to freely flow into Baby. There's an interface, and some things are permitted through, including some antibodies, but not most microbial pathogens. The only exception would be viruses that infect "placental privileged cells" like CTLs and monocytes.
Sometimes blood-borne viruses infect babies during delivery, which is still technically vertical transmission... although I don't think it should be.
C0nc0rdance 3 months ago
@C0nc0rdance,
I'm adopting your convention of starting a new line to comment, though I shall modify it with a comma for S&Gs.
If I'm understanding your preferred definition of verticle transmission, then I agree that it should involve only the biological pathways that form as a result of child development. It seems ambiguous to attribute infections resulting from what I would term "external contamination" like crawling through a bloodstormy canal in the dark.
Thanks for the explanation!
attheveryend 3 months ago
@irojioqopiewjr Creation bestowed you with a perfect immune system? So why is there a Cholera outbreak in Haiti right now? Why did people die from small pox in the early days and why don't they die from it nowadays? How did life expectancy grow from 30 years to 80 years in the last century?
You're only benefiting from other people being vaccinated so it's quite unlikely to catch the disease from someone else.
lagerbaer 1 year ago
Some individuals want to have their children injected with toxic compounds so more power to them, that is their choice/their own personal business. Now if I dont want my daughter injected with toxic chemicals multiple times throughout her life, then that is my OWN personal choice and do not want Big Medicine invading into my personal/private family affairs. IF these vaccines are as good as you make them up to be then if you get yours you should be protected, so dont worry about me and mine.
irojioqopiewjr 1 year ago
@irojioqopiewjr
You will find that your rights do not extend to putting others at risk without good reason. There are people all around you who cannot be vaccinated, and you put their lives at risk by not vaccinating, as well as the life of your daughter. For example: cancer patients, transplant recipients, those with autoimmune disorders, allergies to egg, and the very young and very old.
You can't dump motor oil down the sink, either. Eventually your actions affect all of us.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago 2
@C0nc0rdance You will find that my rights extend to me being able to make an informed personal opinion about the health of myself and my family. I personally do not feel comfortable placing the health of my family into the domain of a total profit driven corporations. I have no fear/worry what so ever of the whooping cough. You can not just dump toxic chemicals into infants/children either, eventually these actions affect us all. Mercury, one of the strongest known neruotoxins, no thank you
irojioqopiewjr 1 year ago
@irojioqopiewjr
DPT does not contain more than a trace of mercury. Less than you will find in a loaf of bread or can of tuna.
Do you base your medical decisions on fear of corporations? Is it possible for a corporation to make a highly effective, safe product driven only by the profit motive?
Are you only concerned with your own families health? Five infants are dead so far this year in California from whooping cough. They couldn't be vaccinated. It was a community acquired infection.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago 2
@irojioqopiewjr The "alternative" health care sector is the real Big Pharma.
lagerbaer 1 year ago
@C0nc0rdance There are things called inalianable rights, which are bestowed on all of us. One of the inalianable rights is that you can choose what goes into your body, and your childs body as well. Having everyone vaccinated so that you can feel safer is NPOT your inalianable right. If you fuck with peoples inalianable rights, then they will fuck with you; remember that.
briankofke 10 months ago
@briankofke
Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. Your right not to be vaccinated ends when it puts hundreds of others at risk. Babies, the elderly, and cancer patients have rights, too. If you expose them by your refusal, and they die, who should the family blame?
We have rights, and we also have responsibilities in our society. If you wish to avoid those responsibilities, please find a nice deserted island and live there.
C0nc0rdance 10 months ago
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"that is my OWN personal choice and do not want Big Medicine invading into my personal/private family affairs"
Remember that when you or someone you know has the Flu, Cold, Allergies, or needs surgery. Remember, Tylenol and Advil are "Big Medicine" too.
flylike1 1 year ago
I have Asperger's Syndrome, a recognised form of High Function Autism. I was vaccinated with both DPT and MMR, like all young children.
1. Do I believe vaccination causes Autism? Based on the evidence; NO.
2. If I have them, will my children be vaccinated? Based on the evidence; YES.
3. If new evidence came to light providing my HFA was a result of MMR, would I regret being vaccinated? NO, because I'd rather be alive with Autism than dead of a preventable disease.
Fucking anti-vac idiots.
sosolidshoe2 1 year ago 2
hehe naked DNA
harvellt 1 year ago
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I shit on Global Warming
m3RacerBitch 1 year ago
If people stop getting vaccinated, and lots of people die, there would be less pressure on earths ecosystems. Biodiversity could be conserved, and surviving generations of people could enjoy benefits of a healthier planet.
jffryh 1 year ago
Why are the vaccines practically FORCED onto everyone? Why is it that people can not accept someones own/informed opinion? Because its contrary to their thoughts and beliefs? I hate to say it, but science can not accurately explain everything, be as it may try. I know thats a tough pill to swallow for many of you, but there is much we dont know. What is conscious-awareness, where do feelings/emotions come from, what are dreams? I mean they are now even requiring a chickenpox vaccine..Chickenpox!
irojioqopiewjr 1 year ago
@irojioqopiewjr
This is some VERY bad logic. Vaccines, like roads, rule of law and trade, are a shared good. We protect each other with our immunity.
Much of your argument is called God of the Gaps, elevating to a special place the things we don't already know. Imagine what might have amazed you about our lack of understanding in 1200 AD.
Chickenpox has a case fatality of 1 in 60,000 in healthy people. In people with weak immune systems it is 7-28% fatal. Not a joke at all.
C0nc0rdance 1 year ago
@C0nc0rdance Yawn...
irojioqopiewjr 1 year ago
@irojioqopiewjr Your a moron
neurocidesakiwi 1 year ago
@neurocidesakiwi And your not?
irojioqopiewjr 1 year ago
Thank you so much for putting this video out for the uneducated snake oil shills and paleoconservatives. Of course, they'll just call you either a shill for the drug companies or part of the worldwide masonic conspiracy.
ferretyluv 1 year ago 3
Global warming is a fucking lie.
MisterKennedy06 1 year ago
@MisterKennedy06 What evidence do you have to support your theory?
Robtehman 1 year ago 3
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You even have that whiny pretentious white liberal voice. White liberals have caused all the problems in this world and will most definitely cause world war 3 with your fiat banking system, your imperialistic corporatist democracies, and your white liberal supremacist illusions of grandeur.
CodexAlimentarius1 2 years ago
To all future readers.:
Note Codex's argument here. Does he address the evidence? Does he make a cogent argument, or cite scientific studies to support his point?
No, it's all ad hominem.
Why do conspiracy theorists always go to ad hominem? Because it's the only tactic they have left. Slander, innuendo, and fear tactics.
The really sad part is that you are simply regurgitating snake oil sales pitches, Codex. You demand no proof for your rabid beliefs. Think for yourself...
C0nc0rdance 2 years ago 20
@C0nc0rdance That's not true, they don't ALWAYS go to ad hominen! the often prefer red herrings, false dichotomies, and a general assortment of non-sequiturs.
PS: talking about snake oil, could you please make a mention in a future video about shark oil in vaccines, it seems to be the new fad in the flu vaccine conspiracy theory.
cthulhex 1 year ago 3
@C0nc0rdance It's weird that, of all the various videos I've watched refuting crazy claims, yours seem to be both the most informative AND the recipient of the most vehement comments.
sciencemile 1 year ago 2
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Every pro-vaccine moron i've ever seen on youtube is either a white liberal narcissist moral relativist or is a white liberal narcissist moral relativist working for big pharma, which are you?
CodexAlimentarius1 2 years ago
in 2:43 c0nc0rdance uses a chart that is 20 years outdated (the bottom half).
Check out the real data from greenman3610:
watch?v=boj9ccV9htk
at 2:40 (the times are a coincidence...)
showABCshow 2 years ago
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Well done sir, finally someone with some sense on YouTube! and of course, this was one of the first things beaten into my head during my Psyc education: "Correlation does not imply Causation", and by God did we recite it verbatim!
I do love how people keep mindlessly attributing the thiomersal in vaccines to causation of autism even though the instance has increased despite thiomersal being eliminated from them...Better look out, here comes the dreaded and elusive third variable problem!!!
kotetsu131 2 years ago
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kotetsu131 2 years ago
You also use a statistic of getting hit by lighting. I guess that includes ppl in the most frigid of climates in iceland? Location when relating to lighting strikes is very important. There are certian areas that you are more likely to get hit by lighting. You can't just do broad calculation examples of the likelyhood of getting hit by lighting..... Where are the sources? The odds of someone in montana getting bit by a shark are still there even if there is no sharks in the state?
WhoisJacqueFresco 2 years ago
"medical miracle" 0_0 - 3:15
"Probably 1 person in 5 would not be alive today if it were not for vaccination" ~,~ more bias - 3:19
Through out the video there is no source listed on where you get your charts. Where are the sources to back up your claim? Have you done any experiments? Were they published? Funny you talk about correlation when data can easily be fixed so no standard deviations cause alarm or how the program interrprets the data can be manipulated to skew the results.
WhoisJacqueFresco 2 years ago
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sorry but my doctor an my family who work in the nhs all say the same its propaganda its not needed it is proven harmful
i take the media output as farce(i was a media student i know the lies) an you should , unless you want gulf war syndrome.
my best friends mum is a top doc , my cousin is nurse an so is my sister in law in, i went to school with another nurse an my old pool buddy was head nurse at the countess of chester hospital all of them work in cheshire,all of them refused the vaccine
beingPOISONED 2 years ago
@beingPOISONED being poisoned is right. giving your children a vaccine is the same as putting a gun to their heads and pulling the trigger. you sheeple are killing the minds of innocent children. Jenny Macarthy is the only person with the guts and intelligence to fight against the massive global coverup. we must support her!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!
Jenny Macarthy is a celebrity, so she knows what she is talking about. so does jim carrey. they know what is best for us sheeple!!
ryecatcher25 2 years ago
i really think the level of toxic mercury
in these vaccines is unsafe i heard the tuna comments but i don't think people eat the can an the stomach filters it more than i direct injection into the bloodstream . i don't think so many medical staff would refuse an speak out if there was no truth in these claims why so many doctors
going on record speaking out against these ad junk vaccines
beingPOISONED 2 years ago
@beingPOISONED
You have a choice. You can believe the Internet rumors, or you can ask your own family physician.
I'm a virologist, I read all these studies, and I can tell you that my kids are fully vaccinated.
Fear and paranoia are very easy to fall into when something is new or unexplained. It's human nature. But we have the tools to determine what is safe and what is not, and the very best data supports that the level of exposure here is not harmful.
C0nc0rdance 2 years ago 10
You should also know that it is entirely possible to avoid all thimerosal. It is no longer in routine childhood vaccinations, and many forms of flu vaccine are mercury free. If you have concerns, talk with your doctor about finding the right options for you.
Just don't let fear govern your behavior. Try to use reason and logic in making the best decision for your health.
C0nc0rdance 2 years ago 8
@beingPOISONED
Methylmercury is in tuna and other fish, ethylmercury is what thimerosal breaks down to in the body, ethylmercury is toxic - but the amount is extremely small and the body has the ability to get rid of it in a couple weeks, vaccines are not injected into the bloodstream directly (it's the muscle). "So many medical staff"? - all the people I have found being anti-vaccine are selling homeopathic medicine and other quackery, some of their credentials are fake/revoked.
sinmantyx 2 years ago 3
@beingPOISONED
What I don't understand, however, is why people are still insisting that ethylmercury in vaccine preservative is even an issue currently. Since about 2001, there is essentially none in routine childhood vaccines. Flu vaccines sometimes have it, but that's about it.
If it were a contributor to autism or other neurological issues, we would expect to see numbers decrease during the last few years. We haven't.
sinmantyx 2 years ago 21
New studies are being done that suggest that tv can be a cause of autism. watching tv makes your brain less active than when you are sleeping.
funkymusicluvr 2 years ago
Source your claims.
freshhh1994 2 years ago
I think that varies on what your watching on tv . For example if you watch a video about mathmatics on tv , your brain will be highly active as you do the excerises in the tv right? If you watch tv with critical thinking educational content then your brairn will be very active , It all depends on what you watch on tv, dont blame the tv =)
yourboycal 2 years ago
@yourboycal well of course, but i don't think parents are showing their kids videos about mathematics or other educational shows, they're showing baby einstein (which, for all its popularity, doesn't actually do anything for babies) and sprout, sesame street, etc. and parents themselves (ive seen this firsthand) watch their own shows 9noneducational) with their children around. but yea, it is the program, the amount watched daily, etc.
funkymusicluvr 2 years ago
No, the correct answer to the question is: well, the type of television programming they tested in the study explained in the journal article BLAH that was published in BLAH was BLAH.
I wouldn't doubt that television has an effect on children - especially if it is coupled with a decrease in active interaction with your children (which isn't always the case!) - but "new studies" isn't a source anyone can critically look at.
sinmantyx 2 years ago
Srchrill
the 2 factors that are linked
are both in you.
OsamaBinForgotten2 2 years ago
can you tell me how to mirror or use this if you don't mind? i'm having a pandemic of stupidity near me and quite a few women who believe oprah and her guests more than doctors and scientists. this is a very serious request, several of these women are "committing" to refuse to vaccinate their children.
kenandkids 2 years ago
As a high-functioning autistic, I am disgusted by those people who claim that vaccines are the cause of autism in situations where other factors are completely unaccounted for. I recently saw a video by a woman who recalled a child whose hair contained a mercury content that went off the chart. The child was autistic, and been observed eating soil, which she connected with mineral deficiency, but ignored completely among potential causes of autism. Talk about turning a blind eye.
topdogtomiii 2 years ago 6
When he states the CDC autism rate in 2007, all I could find was a personal reference of "When my son was diagnosed 16 years ago the stats were 1:2,500.." this year. I found a Boston Globe article from February 9, 2007 that stated, "The study by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention calculated an average autism rate of 6.6 per 1,000."
I would -love- to see these studies he keeps talking about.
~Kat
Luminasita 2 years ago
The only study I could find (a lazy google search) that EdR77203 might be speaking of was in New England Journal of Medicine (Vol. 347, No 19: Nov. 7, 2002: 1477-1483). No link was found between the MMR vaccine and autism, it says nothing of rates raising.
Luminasita 2 years ago
Congratulations on a job well done!
laack 2 years ago
Is that why the medical community finds so many reasons to NEVER take a measure of the autism rate among the unvaccinated population?
The medical community reminds us that just because the autism rate grew up with the vaccine rate does not mean that vaccines cause autism. Then they claim that it is proven that there is no correlation without ever taking a measure of the autism rate in the control group, that is the unvaccinated group. I am impressed
EdR77203 2 years ago
Are you kidding? It's hard to tell when people are using satire in text.
You understand what case-control data is, right? How RR is and OR are calculated?
C0nc0rdance 2 years ago