I find here hypothesises very intristing but no good evidence. But what evidnce is there for a real Jesus resurected from the dead? How can christians call tis woman a fraud? Because they know how to build one and sell it to the masses. These are all myths that have no besis in physical reality.
A major problem with refuting Zeitgeist is that many of it's adepts & followers will have brains flooded with TV sound bytes, drowning in Monsanto & McDonald's happy meals & struggling to comprehend distinguishing factors of truth & make believe. There is a very tough message attached to the Christian message, alongside faith in Jesus is the renouncing of sin. Also, as indicated in the bible, some have been hardened so as not to hear until such a time; according to God's purposes
guys please wake up, I used to entirely believe everything zeitgeist said. Even the ridiculous crap they said about not having any proof for there claims. If you're a guy who bashes people for believing in Jesus (the greatest gift to humanity) yet you have enough faith to believe acharya s and take hers and peter josephs word for everything, then you need your head examined. I wanted proof for there claims and it had the opposite effect on me. The devil tried to trick me, but I follow Jesus now
I know Jesus. We spend time together every day. He is not a poor Jewish kid in a manger nor is He a broken man on a Roman cross. He is mighty and he is coming. I do not need to defend Him. He defends me. So, search your heart, be honest with yourself and decide carefully.The consequences are eternal. "Every knee shall bend and every tongue confess..." Deny Him and He will deny you. Every man is a slave to someone or something. Choose your master wisely. Peace be with you.
Hey, whomever posted this video... ty for making me laugh... people just try to destroy every form of religion. Trying to make us be sad, angry and unhappy just like they are....
Jesus the living man must be a construct of humans! If Jesus was real and died, then why is Easter the celebration of his supposed death, always on a different day? Quote: "In the early days of the Christian church, Easter was celebrated on the Sunday immediately following the first astronomical full moon after the vernal (spring) equinox." Surely basing Easter after the 1st full moon means it is based on a pagan idea! Why is it not the same day every year, if Jesus died on the same day?
For all those people who believe that the info in zeitgeist is unsupported by facts, I urge you to visit the official youtube "Zeitgeist Movie" channel. Not only do they have a 2010 release of zeitgeist but they also include in the description a link for a free downloadable pdf that is a complete source book. It covers all 3 parts of the first zeitgeist movie. If you really care about the sources and facts of where zeitgeist has got their information from, download the pdf and see for yourself.
I am not a Christian, I got a PhD in Comparative Religions, Masters in Archeology/Anthropology and now I am working on my Post-Doctoral. I have enough of all this scum that, I am sorry to say it, can be sold just in America, where you think comics are primary sources.
do you seriously take what people say in a talk show as credentials?
I can tell you something and wether you take it for granted or not I can prove it to you (PROVE...magic word that your Heroine is so good to dribble).
She has no academic pubblication, no PhD, nor she has produced any research that is worth the name.
@wumingdao Just curious.. What kind of idiot post-doctoral student are you. Case in two points (or words), wether? no, whether. Pubblication? no, publication. I know for any of my writings, proof reading is essential. 10 languages? Lets have a discussion in a few of them. Liar.
@nates0907 ...ok, brilliant, you made your point...you have time to check spelling! Doesn't change the fact you are the idiot here. Can you actually produce any argument or your point is just to try to vouch your retarded "expert" proving absolutly nothing?
I was just wondering, in your video, you say that the sun is on the opposite side of the earth than the orion's belt and that you can't see the stars when the sun begins to rise. I'm not sure but I believe these stars are in the east aren't they? And the sun rises in the east, again I'd have to look it up, but if the sun rises in the east and the bright star is from the east then how is it that they are on opposite sides of the earth on the 25th?
Why is your video so scummy and pathetic, that you Christian freaks are using the filthy federal corporate flag of the U.S. ? That flag has 50 pentagram stars on it, and you are a Christian hypocrite for using that Masonic flag ! By the way, Betsy Ross NEVER invented it either, that pimped out deceitful rag can be found in the flag for the British East India corporation LONG before the lifetime of Betsy Ross. That British East India Corp. became the federal corporation that is the U.S.
Just answer my question, you fake, lieing, uneducated Christian fool. Why do your own filthy daughters venerate a SLUT goddes from Babylon named Ishtar, which was put into English as Easter ?? How SICK are you Christian freaks for making your own dumb ass daughters bow down to a Babylonian slut of sex and fertility, every time the month of April rolls around ? The earth "resurrects" from a dead cold winter season in the spring, cults have ALWAYS celebrated "resurrection" at that time.
Debunked nothing,Surely you don't believe was born on Dec.25. Constantine converted the Pagan dates to align with Christianity as we all know.
The 3 stars of Orion and Sirius do not line up with the Sun on Dec.25, they do however, line up to point where the Sun will rise on the Winter Solstice, in the age of Aries and Taurus, and that's where the old saying came about I'm sure.
Astronomy/Astrology is older than any religion. Good Luck, God bless.
You are PATHETIC mind controlled JOKE who venerates the SUN on SUN-day. I'm so glad that Acharya S. made the Zeitgeist UN-debunked videos that show what a moron you really are. Those are all posted up on my channel for any of the educated people who actually want to think for themselves with REALITY, versus having some mind controlled religious nut pissing off your mouth. Spirituality is real, but your pathetic dogma just proves what an uneducated propaganda PUNK you actually are !!
You think you disagree with Acharya on video? Try debating her live on facebook. She is a Femi-Nazi Nightmare who twists and distorts truth constantly in debates. Hey I'm saying this and I'm not even a Christian. The lady I think is crazy. Beware, she doesn't care with how much you agree with her, she focuses more on loves to divide on things she disagrees with. Even after you try to appease here to agree to disagree that is never good enough and she just reports junk after more junk.
Fantastic Debunking. Bravo! Her and Maxwell are the two biggest pushers of this baloney today.
Whoever accused her of being a freemason is misinformed (but she is obviously lying) Freemasonry is a officially male-only secret society. The only order of Freemasonry that accepts women that I know of is the Order of the Eastern Star and the Rainbow Girls, both of which would be very watered-down compared to the Scottish Rite.
dude i hate how the only thing they can refute is the religious aspects of the movie... have you watched it!!!! you are proving his point, all hes saying is that religion acts as a barrier for further development, which you are proving by only focusing on the religious aspect of the movie, whats more important is the 9/11 facts, and the parts on how our federal reserve and banking systems work.
If only 10% of what zeitgeist says is true, it is still much more than the amount of truth found in that book of myths called "Holy Bible." really lol...
lol...we are all born gulity of death and hell because Adam ate a piece of fruit....lol...and don't forget, every creature on earth was in the ark...lol...even the ones that lived on other continents and had no way of crossing the oceans to get to the ark...lol..poor gullible christians will believe any fairy tale...lol...
dude you sound like your trying to protect your lie you live pretty hard,,do you actually believe for one second that we came from a garden with a talking snake !!!! please get a grip on sensability,,its clearly a myth ,,wow how deep can the manipulation get !!! ,,just another strange christian
Wow. Desperate Christians lol. Do you think that a few inaccuracies can compare to the insurmountable amount of FACTS presented in the film?
Seriously, all those links you posted too? Pathetic. Please realize that you have been controlled and completely brainwashed by the religious "myth". You have become exactly what "they" wanted.
You think this world is fucked up by accident? That we, "gods children", are just stupid creatures that can't help but kill each other?
You cannot take what modern Christians believe as to what the original Christians believed. I think that regardless what you think about the source ov the religion, you would admit that it has been modified since its creation. It was in this video, maybe the last, where you mentioned the relations to the Easter Bunny, Christmas, etc.
I apologize if you have trouble understanding me. I am fatigued right now.
the point is christians made dec 25 the birth date copying pagan religions... and if that doesnt tell you that christianity borrows stuff from other religions then idk what will... i mean you admit that they copied that but just that? everything else is completely christian?
Most immigrants from 3rd world countries don't know their birth date. However, when they immigrant here they need to have a DOB for records so most of them have to makeup a date from somewhere right? Does the date really matter? Would you be anymore or less satisfied if they choose September 8 or May 17? The date doesn't matter, the celebration, THAT is what matters. Besides, 2000 years later, it essentially become a tradition now to celebrate on D-25...
acharya s got her information from NON EXSISTENT MYSTERIES how foolish is she lol so in essence she got her evidence from NOTHING LOL she is sooo intellectually dishonest
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for making these videos. I can't believe proof-less, utterly mis-informed crap like Acharya S's writings and the religion section of Zeitgeist are still spreading like wildfire on the internet. I guess it goes to show, people will believe anything. And people will believe anything to put any amount of distance between themselves and the idea that they will one day face a Holy God, demanding explanation (and punishment) for their life of sin.
God did a funny thing, didn't He? He made Himself (Jesus) impossible to prove, and Impossible to disprove within the domain of human LOGIC..........that is in THIS WORLD via THE HUMAN BRAIN.....but in the next, if and when we are SPIRIT....well, then..... we'll either know or we won't. :) There is a higher sense, the sense of spirit, tho, and this is where we might see 'signs' and hear the still small voice of God. The path for now is FAITH. Without a little bit we don't even see signs.
I've come to realize that the Bible is just a book that guides people to live a peaceful life. If people just followed the Ten Commandments in the first place, there wouldn't be any problems, such as not committing murder. But when Christians do commit murder, or when a Priest rapes an alter boy, it misrepresents us and makes us look bad.
i agree, but one of the best ways to destroy something is from the inside, you have to ask yourself why the shuffled them around for so long, i think it was to destroy the message of christ personally,
did you know the old testament says the world is round? or that people that are circumsized are less 70% less likely to give their wife cervical cancer?
I did not know that. I mean, I don't see what her motive is behind this. She says (in the Christ Conspiracy) that religion is harmful because it gives people false hope and that it causes war. The only war that I've seen over Christianity was the Crusades. Christians aren't the ones blowing themselves up. There are a lot of parallels to numerous religions, I'll give her that.
right, i cant deny that the crusades used jesus as the rallying cry, but think about it, even when jesus was alive they didnt control israel, why would God care hundreds of years later, his is a kingdom of spirit, not the earth,
the Crusades were a war over resources, shipping lanes ect... just as the modern day middle eastern conflict is now, and our leaders are using the same rallying cry, its the same lie over and over,
if anyone actually read the books they aspire too, they'd see through
I was willing to watch until the bush league narrator went alinsky on us.
This is how stupid they think you are christians." maybe if we sarcastically make fun of all the points in the movie, they will see how stupid it really isnt , heh heh." C'mon christians arent that dumb, are they?
Forget the 'pursuit of truth', Zeitgeist represents people wanting change from what we've grown up with and the tragedies caused by ideology. I think of the bumper sticker I saw."God save me from your followers".
Zeitgeist is repackaged Theosophy and fed to the masses as truth when it is nothing but beliefs of Luciferians such as Blavatsky and Alice Bailey. Change is good, however if truth is compromised, then were in trouble.
Have a real interview with her. Not this Articulated Selective Behind the back Debunking crap.
If you found God in a Book your a demon worshiper. All books inspired by the words of these demons called Angels are lies, not from the Devil but from the gods. All the Biblical accounts speak of Interdenominational Beings. They are not Spirits like humans think but Beings of a different frequency of matter. They appear like light to us because their out of our frequency.
well ok but please tell me where she gets her info from especially the stuff that she her self says has been destroyed ? or are in languages that no one under stands ? well hows she know what they say ? because she wont answer these simple questions ,,, and i first found god in music both my parents were career musicians
I have read parts of the demonic bible and Satanist books out of curiosity because people have told me that I sound like that or quote from that book too. They also say that I quote things in the bible and new age with things I say.
I worship no beings other that the creative force in which all matter and consciousness(Spirit) exist. I have to say for the most part they are right. I think that Angels and Demons are the same thing. Some are just more politically correct. Just my belief though.
yes yes i have read stuff from , Anton Levay, Crowley , the book of pagan , and others ,,,, angels and demon come from the same source they all have a creator ,,,,the one difference is that demons flee from the Christ ,,, as well as every denier changes horse mid stream once they have a big problem ,,,, like the video of the plane going down with the atheist pilots they sure are fast to jump on gods train when they are in trouble ,,,, and that's the truth
If a Child is abused, no matter how hard he tries to escape the reality, some type of trauma can bring it back.
In this case, being taught your soul is black and you are a sinner as child or witnessing mass cultism in belief just might make you question your beliefs when heading at the ground at 1,200 mph. In other words...you sure might hope there is a God that will save your ass.
God needs no book to speak to us. Because we are all within God.
"Robert Price is, unfortunately, a very unattractive man. He's not a "babe magnet." Dottie Murdocks is a hot babe, and Price removed his truthful analysis of Murdock after she phoned him a number of times and befriended him. Sad, but true. He wrote me an email saying, in effect, "Acharya is too nice to attack." This is an ancient but perennially modern interchange between males and females"
What a lying sack of crap you are. How do you know that Acharya's ever called Price, you psycho?
Robert Price is, unfortunately, a very unattractive man. He's not a "babe magnet." Dottie Murdocks is a hot babe, and Price removed his truthful analysis of Murdock after she phoned him a number of times and befriended him. Sad, but true. He wrote me an email saying, in effect, "Acharya is too nice to attack." This is an ancient but perennially modern interchange between males and females
You're the silly one. You don't even know Murdock OR Price. I know them both. Price has a very REAL LIFE heart-aflutter crush on Murodck. Wait...we academicians have no feelings. Thanks for straightening that out. Emotions never factor into either the academic or scientific ventures.
'genuine scholars such as Dr Robert Price expose her fallacious twaddle'
You call Robert Price a *GENUINE SCHOLAR*, yet when you are disproved in that he *ENDORSES* Acharya's work, you assert it's merely due to a 'heart-aflutter crush'. Surely such a *GENUINE SCHOLAR* wouldn't partake in such unprofessional ventures.
Acharya is desperate. She will say or do anything to defend her books. Why? Money mone money. Plus any degree of fame that the fading rose can grab. Acharya S is an ass not a scholar, and genuine scholars such as Dr Robert Price
expose her fallacious twaddle. However, her dittoheads aren't very bright and they uncrtiically slurp up her vomitous lies the way fundamentalists uncritically slurp up the junk in the bible.
LOL! Robert Price even wrote the forward to 'Who was Jesus?' and endorsed 'Suns of God' after reading it! He took back all of his negative sentiment after revising the material.
SUNS OF GOD is delightfully convoluted, deliciously eccentric, and full of entertaining idiosyncratic peculiarities. It's a classic in the same wild and wooly genre as THE TWO BABYLONS, THE WORLDS SIXTEEN CRUCIFIED SAVIORS, and the two T.Lobsang Rampa romps THE THIRD EYE and MY TRIP TO VENUS. THE CHRIST CONSPIRACY, also by Acharya S, is definitely not to be missed! All of these books belong in every library for their wealth of kooky disinformation and precious conspiracy theories
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you bible bangers are reading long ago thought out manipulation with no proof of anything they write other than certain religions or non believers need to be punished and killed..one jealous god you worship. and evil too. if your god cant be right he will burn you for eternity..nothing i care to spend my time praying too..
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jesus is man made for an excuse to control your thoughts. they use the bible they wrote to feed your mind..the problem with the bible is that its a collection of mans shortcomings but it was written by man not god or jesus. the story of jesus was madeup by he who controls the money system. i belive the vatican is probably rewriting portions or adding more to these text for future generations to follow. especiallly the parts about what country we need to go to war with..
"i believe the vatican is probably rewriting portions or adding more to these text for future generations to follow. especially the parts about what country we need to go to war with.."
Ok I don't care what you believe or what you don't believe. But making such unsopported, absurd claims like these shows how ignorant you are about what you are talking about.
Hope you really begin to actually think about what you are saying. Peace.
the father of lies has limited time. he will say any and everything to drag as many souls with him to hell. he resents mankind. jesus is the only way, dont you people see that? he died to help our souls so that they may not die. he loves us, what loving father does not sacrifice for his children? what loving father does not correct the mistakes of his children? dont disown your father, dont let the devil hide the way from you. jesus is the only way.
god is much more than we will ever know..the bible was written by man not god ,,to control us..religious institutions are just that..institutions for you to support with your money..just another corrupt business to say whos right or wrong no unity just a tool to brainwash and feed financially...wakeup followers use common sense..
you are in no way a more credible source than the bible. your words are of your own tangled imaginations. lucifers lies will do that to you. i am wide awake and using common sense, my soul will not share hell with the devil for believing his lies. the words of the prophets of the one true god are coming true and have always came true for a reason. god does not lie
if you want to believe the zeitgeist then do so. it caters to selfishness and false absolution from gods judgement, i understand why its a popular concept, we are sinful by nature. it doesnt take money or a religion to cause that. even toddlers who have no concern of those things still misbehave. futhermore if you use common sense ask yourself why does the zeitgeist use deception slandering jesus?
the invisible man in the sky is a myth. created for control and profit and excuse for wars to increase the empire and institutions of the elite wealthy who control us..
the papacy did not create god. but they did mock him and persecute his people and anyone else who would not agree with their blasphemy, and mockery of gods laws, the devil used gods name, and his counterfeit christian religion to do evil, read the book of daniel, compare that to a history book, find out the truth about the little horn, papal rome
I feel sorry for the good people who read her works without doing any research and just believing her because she sounds credible. Seems to be a major these days. If the person sounds intelligent and has a detailed presentation then they must be right.
There is an obvious agenda behind Zeitgeist and it's not a good one.
at 6:15 this dumb ass calls acharya lame and like a little kid..before he goes on to make a little kid voice, make fun of her even more and then continues to judge her so speculative opinions. WOW.. ANOTHER ANIT ZEITGEIST VIDEO WHICH IS GAY.
and you still believe it, thats ok. believe what you like, even if it is a lie. it still wont make jesus go away, he is still coming back, like it or not, nothing you or all the unbelievers in the world united can do to stop it
yeah i do, lets see.. there is fire, lanterns, candles, nowaday we got electric lights.. if you think that is a valid argument then show me that scripture and watch me ATTEMPT to prove to you that it doesnt mean the sun. you seem to have the same problem as acharya s tho. denial and more denial
since you cant find one here you go... Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, the LORD shall be a light unto me. now do you see how it doesnt literally mean the sun? can you tell what it means yet? HOPE in times of TROUBLE, TRUTH against LIES, LIGHT in times of DARKNESS. such as the luciferian teachings of zeitgeist are TROUBLE, DARKNESS, and LIES, the lord certainly is a marvellous LIGHT isnt he?
How many people die from the wrath of God in the bible. I can assure you because of that. He is not talking about Hope. For where there is a Criminal, Or a man lost in pain, there must be hope. SO WHY KILL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE? What hope was there? Maybe I just kill you in hope of you goin to a better place. And you can do the same. Hope. hahaha Your funny. You talk of a god whos messages is hope..But then you believe in these lies. You my friend Are a Sheep.
yes indeed! alot of people died from the wrath of god in the bible, and alot of people are going to hell.. well you have freewill, you dont have to believe in god, or like him, that is your problem. and the only thing you can assure me of is that you are too proud for your own good.
you're probably right, but while you're on the vein of frankness, most Christians don't take the stance that it's acceptable to not believe in or dislike God. Did you know that.
that is because it is not acceptable for a christian to not believe in god, or to dislike god. just as it would not be acceptable for someone who is not a christian to be forced to become a christian against that persons freewill.
when i wrote what i have written about freewill. that was me saying, you are making your own choice to "socratiz"
was also trying to point out the fact that those he says were killed from the wrath of god
i was explaining to "socratiz" how that when god, or jesus was referred to as the "the light" it is foolish for one who has the light of the lord to assume it means the sun, the sun is something from which all men can see and benefit from, christian, and otherwise.
the teachings of acharya s are a darkness. the teachings of the word of god, is a light exposing these lies. he couldn't seem to understand that" the light" is help against our enemies because of them that perished from god's wrath.
She's so cute in her ignorance of world religions and paganism. LightThirst is right, she does NOTHING to help the cause; maybe she just did this to hear herself talk :)
I really agree with alot of whats in Zeitgeist but i think it's clear that they should have left this subject well alone till they could prove some of it this woman does nothing to help the cause...
No, Christians have to defend what popes, saints, apostles says. They are like god's vicar on earth. Especialy popes. Don't I get something here?
I want to note, that i am not against historical Jesus. Even being atheist, i very much accepted that jesus could be historical. No problems with that, but as far i see, there is no evidence about jesus, as no evidence about unicorns...
Youre kidding me right? You think all the Protestants adhere to what the pope says? Do you even know what the reformation is? The Pope and saints are very much a catholic doctrine, Protestants do not recognise the Pope, and CERTAINLY, do not defend anything he says other than what is universally agreed in christianity (I.e, Jesus being the son of God). Atleast as far as they see it.
Yes, i know what reformation is, dear scholar :). As i said, i was actualy not sure do i get what you want to say.
Anyway, in zeitgeist there was no talk about diferent confessions. THere was facts, that christianity as it was, was build on the root of pagan. That is the point. The control. Of course later there was disunity. But that is just more funier about christianity.
Well, considering all the private companies are going bust appart from ones the government select to back up (not just the banks). Our only way to find work will be government institutions, including the military.
If you google for, operation joint warrior, there was the biggest military exercise ever back in october, in scotland and wales (part of the UK) where the brits and 8 other countrys practised with live ammo fighting a ''state sponsored terrorist organisation with moder weaponry''.
There practising for something big clearly. I never really bought into all this conspiracy stuff, it is certainly interesting, but, that info is listed on the UK's offical military site :\
That guy on video knows nothing, becouse, for example, he says, that Horus didint born on december 25th. Yes, you wont find egyptinas writings with dates like we see it today, but the fact is that egyptians celebrated the born of horus... on winter solstice. SO WTF?!?!?!? I wont comment other sh*t for know, but it seems to me propaganda.
It doesnt matter if they did, there is no biblial evidence that christ was born on the 25th. Infact I believe most put it at september (ish).
Christianity did however as basically a fuck you to pagenism, take some of there traditions. E.g the popes title of ponteif maximus was the name of a roman pagen leader and christianity took it to say, we have won, and replaced pagenism.
Yes, you right, there is no evidence that christ was born on 25th and, of course, there is no evidence, that christ did born at all. Day 25th, as christ birthday, estimated by church, proves, that christinity was build on top of paganism to control people, not to spread word of jesus. Those, who want to debunk zeitgeist, and saying, that jesus did not born on 25th, just cutting branch on wich they sit, becouse they show by themselfes, that christianity is one big lie. Please no swearing :).
I disagree. The December 25th birthday is not biblical, Christians do not need to defend a notion that was started about 400years after the alleged events and that was popularised by the Victorians (and coca cola). You are trying to paint a guilty by association plea here, of which I very much contest.
There is plenty evidence for the historical Christ, its whether or not he was the son of God that the contention between Christians and non believers arise.
the one who made zeitgeist should reformed that religion part and explain that government use the bible for it,s own purpose..but that doesn,t mean that the bible is astrological s***
but on the other hand christians shouldn,t be systematicly against zeitgeist in demonizing those films and movement for its goal in honorable:it is to free us from lies and materialistic/money power which is dehumanize us all!!
not so sure about what? if zeitgeist goal is honourable? i think it is. their second film is much better because they don,t speak about the unspeakable and they don,t try to size it in inventing false mythology over what they don,t know...the opposite : on the second film they went right to the point. they decyphers the REAL problems...if the way to free us from it will work with time,,,? we will see but the important thing was to revealed it....
Luckily, you got me just as I was heading off to work :P.
If you watch addendum, it goes onto all this stuff about solutions, and it essentially promises heaven on earth. Which is exactly what the comunists did and something repeated through history. I have no doubt many people are genuine in wanting to change things for the better but historically, your asking for trouble.
you are right but we have also to take some risks if we are not happy and not able to develope ourselves and all our human capacities in that present statu quo...but of course it would compromise a world of ferraris ;D
If you look at what these NWO elites are apparantly planning (killing most of us), surely this system that is touted in zeitgeist makes it so much easier to do that?
well they already killed our soul and spirit..now he are robots working for those elites
but i agree that the change should be an inner change in the society and not to create somewhere a village of zeigeist...it is a bit to have such goal for if we craete a village of zeitgeist the NWO will destroye it really fast. i guess they were wrong with that part,,but they also talked about a long lasting changing attitude in humanity, not necessarely an immediate and concrete "war" in a village
communists? well in the essence of communism was a good idea but is and was in the hands of corrupted men
enslavement communisms ideal? no is to be free here and now on heart..not in another possible better or worst life after our physical presence on earth,but you are right in general about enslavement but what a bout the enslavement we get now?? do we have a promise of heaven in being enslav by depths caused by few men? no! the modern enslavement is a promise of NOTHING here, now and never....
That wasnt my point if you look at the comunist countrys, it was socialism for the masses, and royal treatment for the elites, which in rality isnt all that far removed from capitalist countrys in the west.
I am extremly skeptical of people who promise heaven in general (including the religions). The scope for abuse and the nesesity if power in such a soceity, be it by machines or not to my mind is inviting problems
Am not so sure about solutions to tell you the truth, there clearly is something wrong with our current system but am not so sure its by accident, at the risk of sounding paranoid, I think there is an underlying malicious intent going on.
Considering what is goin on in finance, I do think though regardless what we do, the old system as we knew it is done./
you are right that she,s working for NWO....and she is probably worshiping herself the sun that i won,t be really surprised...and she is trying to mix every myths and truth so that we could believe that the only truth is her false idol....that is so sad that it was included in Zeitgeist that part about religion because it is putting discredit on the rest of the message about politic and economy...
it is not really convincing that video....the narrator guy is, let's be polite, a -little bit- arrogant....tst tst tst not really really -christan- as an attitude lol
the one who made zeitgeist should reformed that religion part and explain that government use the bible for it,s own purpose..but that doesn,t mean that the bible is astrological s***
but on the other hand christians shouldn,t be systematicly against zeitgeist in demonizing those films and movement for its goal in honorable:it is to free us from lies and materialistic/money power which is dehumanize us all!!
Its just funny when Christians get all 'scientific'. Ridiculous. Religion is man made. Whether or not Jesus existed is irrelevant when you realize it is but 1 religion on the planet Earth. Go to another country and examine thier culture. Realize your religion is a reflection of your ethnocentric western viewpoint that is in fact 1 way of seeing things--not the end all.
actually you should understand that the human condition is the commonality, and since religions/spiritual beliefs are created/come about as a response to the human condition, there will undoubtedly be simalarities. the only commonalities that are true have to do with everpresent/reoccuring themes in creation/nature. that does not mean all religions are the same. here's how they differ: some say theres 1 god and its evil to say there's more than that, some say there's many gods, thats DIFFERENT
Acharya is a complete ignoramus when it comes to the science of Astronomy (not the pseudoscience of astrology) or she would not make such assinine claims. Plus I have never heard anyone claims this fool is a freemason or satanist. I have a private detective locating her so I can tell her fathers son where she lives.
The fact is, Jesus existed but he wasn't a miracle worker and all that childish superstitious crap. Acharyas MISTAKE is being a REDUCTIONIST with her head up her arse. You can't reduce religion to astrology or to hallucinogens. Christ, Acharya, yes there was some astrological influence, thats plain to see. You've tried to build a career on the sand of reductionism though. You lose lass because you're being so bloody damned stubborn. Hey! You studied Greek! I read and write Koine Greek!
Hey DOROTHY MURDOCK aka Acharya Ass! If you're reading this, know that we know you're a lying bitch with an agenda and an axe to grind. Did I say you're a liar? I apologize! You're not a liar, your writings are just OOZING with Cosmic Truth. Cunt.
you also gotta love that acharya s. charges (REQUIRES a minamum $7 "donation") to download the pdf of the companion guide to zeitgiest, and it says that the "illegal torrents" offering this book offer a fake version. well, i bought the book months ago, and compared it to 4 different torrent downloads of it, and not one word in the entire thing is different. WHO'S TRYNA GET MONEY?!?!
DOROTHY MURDOCK aka "Acharya S" the guru-gal who wrote The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of various gasses. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTTAL parts 1-3 and ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10. No, I'm not going to summarize these videos for the lazy asses out there. Do your own viewing and thinking.
The reason jesus was persecuted is because he was the heir to the throne of rome, being the son of Julius Cesar & Cleopatra, cesarian was his name. Watch Ring of Power. Jesus was New World Order. Oh, & I've seen alot of videos saying she is a satanist, freemason.
I agree with everything about the Zeitgeist movie I & II. but when it comes to the religion parts, its questionable. Resourceful yes, but misunderstood as a whole.
DOROTHY MURDOCK aka "Acharya S" the non-scholar who wrote The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of methane gas or is lying or both. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTTAL parts 1-3. ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10, and Second Look: Zeitgeist Movie and Religion. No, I'm not going to summarize these videos for the lazy asses out there. Do your own viewing and thinking.
Funny thing about her comments i found interesting, though... the idea that she claims it is defamatory to call someone a freemason, or government secret service agent, etc.
DOROTHY MURDOCK, the non-scholar who wrote The Cripes Conspiracy and The Buns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of crap. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTAL parts 1-3. ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10.
I won't buy everything she says, but even I can see figures from the constalations depicted in the bible. Which problably was the spark to search for other similarities between religions. I never bought everything in zeitgeist either, since I haven't seen/sought out information from other individual sources to support its many claims. Which is why I wish to see some serious correcting/debunking, not childish ridicule you thirdrates presents. at least do reaserch from everysides of the issue;)
One more comment. I have always referred to these three stars in Orion as Orion's belt. I honestly have never heard them called the Three Kings until watching Zeitgeist. Thanks again guys for breaking this stuff down.
mitology and imaginary persons,that many people beleives.I feel good in this way,if u born in india right now near to Saibaba ur going to beleive in him.not in jesus and thats the way this works,i know we have a way of things come to the universe,but i dont beleive in a person with powers up in the skies waiting for me my friend.
Not clearly refutations.not good ones not exact points just more arguments this movie help other study and read more,not just the controversial bible,the only book,with ...
Ur a fanatic and ur analysis its so stupid.... so many contradictions and so many strange things in all this shit!! so i beleive in Zeitgeist almost ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck stupid bible! and all of ur gods!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are not trying to offend you. We are just showing that Zeitgeist CANNOT be rationally believed. If you still accept Zeitgeist as a factually truthful movie, you completely ignorant of facts.
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i know the voice of the guy in this channel does he have another one.
lxAgnosticxl 3 weeks ago
damm iPad keyboard
pcuimac 1 month ago
I find here hypothesises very intristing but no good evidence. But what evidnce is there for a real Jesus resurected from the dead? How can christians call tis woman a fraud? Because they know how to build one and sell it to the masses. These are all myths that have no besis in physical reality.
pcuimac 1 month ago
@pcuimac that not the point, the point is she is making claims that are untrue,
biomechanical1976 4 weeks ago
A major problem with refuting Zeitgeist is that many of it's adepts & followers will have brains flooded with TV sound bytes, drowning in Monsanto & McDonald's happy meals & struggling to comprehend distinguishing factors of truth & make believe. There is a very tough message attached to the Christian message, alongside faith in Jesus is the renouncing of sin. Also, as indicated in the bible, some have been hardened so as not to hear until such a time; according to God's purposes
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guys please wake up, I used to entirely believe everything zeitgeist said. Even the ridiculous crap they said about not having any proof for there claims. If you're a guy who bashes people for believing in Jesus (the greatest gift to humanity) yet you have enough faith to believe acharya s and take hers and peter josephs word for everything, then you need your head examined. I wanted proof for there claims and it had the opposite effect on me. The devil tried to trick me, but I follow Jesus now
conraddoavil 3 months ago
calling chritsian to battle? pfffhhahaha. you realy have to be realy ignorent of scripture to belive this woman.
supermurloc64 6 months ago
I know Jesus. We spend time together every day. He is not a poor Jewish kid in a manger nor is He a broken man on a Roman cross. He is mighty and he is coming. I do not need to defend Him. He defends me. So, search your heart, be honest with yourself and decide carefully.The consequences are eternal. "Every knee shall bend and every tongue confess..." Deny Him and He will deny you. Every man is a slave to someone or something. Choose your master wisely. Peace be with you.
boxman7124 7 months ago 2
@boxman7124 nice
p00pm4n3000 6 months ago
Hey, whomever posted this video... ty for making me laugh... people just try to destroy every form of religion. Trying to make us be sad, angry and unhappy just like they are....
Regards!
CrippledKnight 11 months ago
Jesus the living man must be a construct of humans! If Jesus was real and died, then why is Easter the celebration of his supposed death, always on a different day? Quote: "In the early days of the Christian church, Easter was celebrated on the Sunday immediately following the first astronomical full moon after the vernal (spring) equinox." Surely basing Easter after the 1st full moon means it is based on a pagan idea! Why is it not the same day every year, if Jesus died on the same day?
thetruthgenie 1 year ago
fantastic job exposing this liar.
megame23 1 year ago
people would just believe any thing anti christian. as soon some one mentions God or Jesus, they get all upset.
you got to be willingly ignorant or have no knowledge of scripture to believe the things Acharya says.
supermurloc64 1 year ago
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For all those people who believe that the info in zeitgeist is unsupported by facts, I urge you to visit the official youtube "Zeitgeist Movie" channel. Not only do they have a 2010 release of zeitgeist but they also include in the description a link for a free downloadable pdf that is a complete source book. It covers all 3 parts of the first zeitgeist movie. If you really care about the sources and facts of where zeitgeist has got their information from, download the pdf and see for yourself.
yllierutube 1 year ago
bwhahahahahahaha! That was hilarious! Quoting Christimas songs..... bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
joejohnson043 1 year ago
P.S.
I am not a Christian, I got a PhD in Comparative Religions, Masters in Archeology/Anthropology and now I am working on my Post-Doctoral. I have enough of all this scum that, I am sorry to say it, can be sold just in America, where you think comics are primary sources.
And...oh! I DO speak 10 languages
wumingdao 1 year ago
Exactly...apparently.
do you seriously take what people say in a talk show as credentials?
I can tell you something and wether you take it for granted or not I can prove it to you (PROVE...magic word that your Heroine is so good to dribble).
She has no academic pubblication, no PhD, nor she has produced any research that is worth the name.
wumingdao 1 year ago
@wumingdao Just curious.. What kind of idiot post-doctoral student are you. Case in two points (or words), wether? no, whether. Pubblication? no, publication. I know for any of my writings, proof reading is essential. 10 languages? Lets have a discussion in a few of them. Liar.
nates0907 1 year ago
@nates0907 ...ok, brilliant, you made your point...you have time to check spelling! Doesn't change the fact you are the idiot here. Can you actually produce any argument or your point is just to try to vouch your retarded "expert" proving absolutly nothing?
wumingdao 8 months ago
by the way...who said I am a retarded American (read English speaker) like you are?
wumingdao 8 months ago
Apparently, Acharya S is an archaeologist, historian, linguist who speaks reads and understands 10 languages.
Whoever is trying to debunk these people or who made this video, I'd like to know your credentials.
stevemabc123 1 year ago
I was just wondering, in your video, you say that the sun is on the opposite side of the earth than the orion's belt and that you can't see the stars when the sun begins to rise. I'm not sure but I believe these stars are in the east aren't they? And the sun rises in the east, again I'd have to look it up, but if the sun rises in the east and the bright star is from the east then how is it that they are on opposite sides of the earth on the 25th?
stevemabc123 1 year ago
Why is your video so scummy and pathetic, that you Christian freaks are using the filthy federal corporate flag of the U.S. ? That flag has 50 pentagram stars on it, and you are a Christian hypocrite for using that Masonic flag ! By the way, Betsy Ross NEVER invented it either, that pimped out deceitful rag can be found in the flag for the British East India corporation LONG before the lifetime of Betsy Ross. That British East India Corp. became the federal corporation that is the U.S.
EducatedRebellion101 1 year ago
@EducatedRebellion101 Um, that was to make a point about how Acharya S asks us to trust the US government about an early Christian tradition.
heartrocketblast 1 year ago
Just answer my question, you fake, lieing, uneducated Christian fool. Why do your own filthy daughters venerate a SLUT goddes from Babylon named Ishtar, which was put into English as Easter ?? How SICK are you Christian freaks for making your own dumb ass daughters bow down to a Babylonian slut of sex and fertility, every time the month of April rolls around ? The earth "resurrects" from a dead cold winter season in the spring, cults have ALWAYS celebrated "resurrection" at that time.
EducatedRebellion101 1 year ago
Debunked nothing,Surely you don't believe was born on Dec.25. Constantine converted the Pagan dates to align with Christianity as we all know.
The 3 stars of Orion and Sirius do not line up with the Sun on Dec.25, they do however, line up to point where the Sun will rise on the Winter Solstice, in the age of Aries and Taurus, and that's where the old saying came about I'm sure.
Astronomy/Astrology is older than any religion. Good Luck, God bless.
Tweekerhead 1 year ago
You are PATHETIC mind controlled JOKE who venerates the SUN on SUN-day. I'm so glad that Acharya S. made the Zeitgeist UN-debunked videos that show what a moron you really are. Those are all posted up on my channel for any of the educated people who actually want to think for themselves with REALITY, versus having some mind controlled religious nut pissing off your mouth. Spirituality is real, but your pathetic dogma just proves what an uneducated propaganda PUNK you actually are !!
EducatedRebellion101 1 year ago
@EducatedRebellion101 So let me get this straight... you're a troll trying to make Acharya S followers look stupid, right?
heartrocketblast 1 year ago
You think you disagree with Acharya on video? Try debating her live on facebook. She is a Femi-Nazi Nightmare who twists and distorts truth constantly in debates. Hey I'm saying this and I'm not even a Christian. The lady I think is crazy. Beware, she doesn't care with how much you agree with her, she focuses more on loves to divide on things she disagrees with. Even after you try to appease here to agree to disagree that is never good enough and she just reports junk after more junk.
gentlemen151 1 year ago
Fantastic Debunking. Bravo! Her and Maxwell are the two biggest pushers of this baloney today.
Whoever accused her of being a freemason is misinformed (but she is obviously lying) Freemasonry is a officially male-only secret society. The only order of Freemasonry that accepts women that I know of is the Order of the Eastern Star and the Rainbow Girls, both of which would be very watered-down compared to the Scottish Rite.
TruthApex 1 year ago
dude i hate how the only thing they can refute is the religious aspects of the movie... have you watched it!!!! you are proving his point, all hes saying is that religion acts as a barrier for further development, which you are proving by only focusing on the religious aspect of the movie, whats more important is the 9/11 facts, and the parts on how our federal reserve and banking systems work.
Xiplaydrums 1 year ago
What you don't seem to get is that history was created through the actions of supplanting a Christian with a Solar mythos.
Human beings create history. It's not just something that happens to us.
kokopelli314 1 year ago
If only 10% of what zeitgeist says is true, it is still much more than the amount of truth found in that book of myths called "Holy Bible." really lol...
layout1070 1 year ago
lol...we are all born gulity of death and hell because Adam ate a piece of fruit....lol...and don't forget, every creature on earth was in the ark...lol...even the ones that lived on other continents and had no way of crossing the oceans to get to the ark...lol..poor gullible christians will believe any fairy tale...lol...
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layout1070 1 year ago
poor christians. its like telling a child that santaclaus isnt real, they cry deny and plead their case but they know their faith is a lie
pistolpete667 1 year ago
dude you sound like your trying to protect your lie you live pretty hard,,do you actually believe for one second that we came from a garden with a talking snake !!!! please get a grip on sensability,,its clearly a myth ,,wow how deep can the manipulation get !!! ,,just another strange christian
brocqy12 1 year ago
LMAO!!!!! She is so retarded. LMAO!!!!!
Sabalan97 1 year ago
Wow. Desperate Christians lol. Do you think that a few inaccuracies can compare to the insurmountable amount of FACTS presented in the film?
Seriously, all those links you posted too? Pathetic. Please realize that you have been controlled and completely brainwashed by the religious "myth". You have become exactly what "they" wanted.
You think this world is fucked up by accident? That we, "gods children", are just stupid creatures that can't help but kill each other?
TheGrimHreeper 2 years ago
Acharya S. is a ugly bitch!
aek21gangsta 2 years ago
Well Acharya S. is just another New Age charlatan
SonofJaphet 2 years ago
I do like what you said...
Generally speaking...
You cannot take what modern Christians believe as to what the original Christians believed. I think that regardless what you think about the source ov the religion, you would admit that it has been modified since its creation. It was in this video, maybe the last, where you mentioned the relations to the Easter Bunny, Christmas, etc.
I apologize if you have trouble understanding me. I am fatigued right now.
JonSchaffer57 2 years ago
note that the DOT means put a real dot there. LOL
MADDPOETTDYER 2 years ago
Goto risenjesusDOTcom/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=109
For more debunking
MADDPOETTDYER 2 years ago
C'mon, we want to see the Zeitgeist Movement demonstrated to be in error, not the film retard.
PonguigPeopinn 2 years ago
the point is christians made dec 25 the birth date copying pagan religions... and if that doesnt tell you that christianity borrows stuff from other religions then idk what will... i mean you admit that they copied that but just that? everything else is completely christian?
jesusramones1 2 years ago 2
Most immigrants from 3rd world countries don't know their birth date. However, when they immigrant here they need to have a DOB for records so most of them have to makeup a date from somewhere right? Does the date really matter? Would you be anymore or less satisfied if they choose September 8 or May 17? The date doesn't matter, the celebration, THAT is what matters. Besides, 2000 years later, it essentially become a tradition now to celebrate on D-25...
sammygebre 2 years ago
acharya s got her information from NON EXSISTENT MYSTERIES how foolish is she lol so in essence she got her evidence from NOTHING LOL she is sooo intellectually dishonest
laura686979 2 years ago
That still doesn't help lend credibility to the Jewish zombie.
SirianKings 2 years ago
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for making these videos. I can't believe proof-less, utterly mis-informed crap like Acharya S's writings and the religion section of Zeitgeist are still spreading like wildfire on the internet. I guess it goes to show, people will believe anything. And people will believe anything to put any amount of distance between themselves and the idea that they will one day face a Holy God, demanding explanation (and punishment) for their life of sin.
MorpheusOmikron 2 years ago
Do you want to put christians in check? Check out the truth about the zodiac..zodiactruthdotcom It'll blow your mind !
TheBoopski 2 years ago
5:15 what part of the world are you talking about? doesn't that matter?
ScienceLayman 2 years ago
God did a funny thing, didn't He? He made Himself (Jesus) impossible to prove, and Impossible to disprove within the domain of human LOGIC..........that is in THIS WORLD via THE HUMAN BRAIN.....but in the next, if and when we are SPIRIT....well, then..... we'll either know or we won't. :) There is a higher sense, the sense of spirit, tho, and this is where we might see 'signs' and hear the still small voice of God. The path for now is FAITH. Without a little bit we don't even see signs.
Solablueangel 2 years ago
I've come to realize that the Bible is just a book that guides people to live a peaceful life. If people just followed the Ten Commandments in the first place, there wouldn't be any problems, such as not committing murder. But when Christians do commit murder, or when a Priest rapes an alter boy, it misrepresents us and makes us look bad.
tommyig88 2 years ago
i agree, but one of the best ways to destroy something is from the inside, you have to ask yourself why the shuffled them around for so long, i think it was to destroy the message of christ personally,
did you know the old testament says the world is round? or that people that are circumsized are less 70% less likely to give their wife cervical cancer?
nsolcis 2 years ago 2
I did not know that. I mean, I don't see what her motive is behind this. She says (in the Christ Conspiracy) that religion is harmful because it gives people false hope and that it causes war. The only war that I've seen over Christianity was the Crusades. Christians aren't the ones blowing themselves up. There are a lot of parallels to numerous religions, I'll give her that.
tommyig88 2 years ago
right, i cant deny that the crusades used jesus as the rallying cry, but think about it, even when jesus was alive they didnt control israel, why would God care hundreds of years later, his is a kingdom of spirit, not the earth,
the Crusades were a war over resources, shipping lanes ect... just as the modern day middle eastern conflict is now, and our leaders are using the same rallying cry, its the same lie over and over,
if anyone actually read the books they aspire too, they'd see through
nsolcis 2 years ago
fuck off turds-
(please God save me from your followers!!!LOL)
abraxnos 2 years ago
I was willing to watch until the bush league narrator went alinsky on us.
This is how stupid they think you are christians." maybe if we sarcastically make fun of all the points in the movie, they will see how stupid it really isnt , heh heh." C'mon christians arent that dumb, are they?
MrPhillipAlvidrez 2 years ago
that may be true, but you cant refute the facts
nsolcis 2 years ago
Forget the 'pursuit of truth', Zeitgeist represents people wanting change from what we've grown up with and the tragedies caused by ideology. I think of the bumper sticker I saw."God save me from your followers".
You cannot debunk a desire for change.
21Division 2 years ago
Hey you gotta check out Kymatica,its much better than zeitgeist,pass it on
abraxnos 2 years ago
Zeitgeist is repackaged Theosophy and fed to the masses as truth when it is nothing but beliefs of Luciferians such as Blavatsky and Alice Bailey. Change is good, however if truth is compromised, then were in trouble.
dfrankl4 2 years ago
This is B.S.!
Have a real interview with her. Not this Articulated Selective Behind the back Debunking crap.
If you found God in a Book your a demon worshiper. All books inspired by the words of these demons called Angels are lies, not from the Devil but from the gods. All the Biblical accounts speak of Interdenominational Beings. They are not Spirits like humans think but Beings of a different frequency of matter. They appear like light to us because their out of our frequency.
Debunk that.
highintel 2 years ago
well ok but please tell me where she gets her info from especially the stuff that she her self says has been destroyed ? or are in languages that no one under stands ? well hows she know what they say ? because she wont answer these simple questions ,,, and i first found god in music both my parents were career musicians
lesterclaypool1 2 years ago
i thought zeigeist was good untill i saw kymatica-check it and tell your friends
abraxnos 2 years ago
Christ Mythers are like Holocaust deniers.
They go again all written and recorded history and documentation in hopes that people are just too IGNORANT of history to know better.
SerpentSlayer1 2 years ago
she might not be a satanist but she qoutes from a lucifirian / satanist ,,,, shes certanly not unbias ,,,, she is a liar
lesterclaypool1 2 years ago
I have read parts of the demonic bible and Satanist books out of curiosity because people have told me that I sound like that or quote from that book too. They also say that I quote things in the bible and new age with things I say.
I worship no beings other that the creative force in which all matter and consciousness(Spirit) exist. I have to say for the most part they are right. I think that Angels and Demons are the same thing. Some are just more politically correct. Just my belief though.
highintel 2 years ago
yes yes i have read stuff from , Anton Levay, Crowley , the book of pagan , and others ,,,, angels and demon come from the same source they all have a creator ,,,,the one difference is that demons flee from the Christ ,,, as well as every denier changes horse mid stream once they have a big problem ,,,, like the video of the plane going down with the atheist pilots they sure are fast to jump on gods train when they are in trouble ,,,, and that's the truth
lesterclaypool1 2 years ago
If a Child is abused, no matter how hard he tries to escape the reality, some type of trauma can bring it back.
In this case, being taught your soul is black and you are a sinner as child or witnessing mass cultism in belief just might make you question your beliefs when heading at the ground at 1,200 mph. In other words...you sure might hope there is a God that will save your ass.
God needs no book to speak to us. Because we are all within God.
These heavens and hells, we create.
highintel 2 years ago
7:00-8:00 LOL!!
Absolutely True!!
xFLASHx1 2 years ago
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This is Christian propaganda. Many years ago the Christians, and the Muslims, tore the great book apart that explains the truth about the
ancients before you. They have kept the truth from you to keep control.
The only reason this movie was even made is because Zeitgeist revealed the truth about the perversion of sun worship, crippling the Christian numbers.
Free yourself and embrace the consciousness of the world being connected as one.
National Burn Your Bible Day December 25 2012
interested976 2 years ago
"You don't even know Murdock OR Price. I know them both."
Again, a lying sack of crap.
Foolbuster99 2 years ago
"Robert Price is, unfortunately, a very unattractive man. He's not a "babe magnet." Dottie Murdocks is a hot babe, and Price removed his truthful analysis of Murdock after she phoned him a number of times and befriended him. Sad, but true. He wrote me an email saying, in effect, "Acharya is too nice to attack." This is an ancient but perennially modern interchange between males and females"
What a lying sack of crap you are. How do you know that Acharya's ever called Price, you psycho?
Foolbuster99 2 years ago
Robert Price is, unfortunately, a very unattractive man. He's not a "babe magnet." Dottie Murdocks is a hot babe, and Price removed his truthful analysis of Murdock after she phoned him a number of times and befriended him. Sad, but true. He wrote me an email saying, in effect, "Acharya is too nice to attack." This is an ancient but perennially modern interchange between males and females
LattimoreBeasley 2 years ago
Oh, now a sexist attack.
Grow up, what a silly remark.
dudekin 2 years ago
You're the silly one. You don't even know Murdock OR Price. I know them both. Price has a very REAL LIFE heart-aflutter crush on Murodck. Wait...we academicians have no feelings. Thanks for straightening that out. Emotions never factor into either the academic or scientific ventures.
LattimoreBeasley 2 years ago
Oh please!
'genuine scholars such as Dr Robert Price expose her fallacious twaddle'
You call Robert Price a *GENUINE SCHOLAR*, yet when you are disproved in that he *ENDORSES* Acharya's work, you assert it's merely due to a 'heart-aflutter crush'. Surely such a *GENUINE SCHOLAR* wouldn't partake in such unprofessional ventures.
Please stop being so nonsensical.
dudekin 2 years ago
I can see the attraction. She is an attractive woman...for a heretic. lol
Seriously, I would bring her home to meet mom.:)
Jules242 2 years ago
Acharya is desperate. She will say or do anything to defend her books. Why? Money mone money. Plus any degree of fame that the fading rose can grab. Acharya S is an ass not a scholar, and genuine scholars such as Dr Robert Price
expose her fallacious twaddle. However, her dittoheads aren't very bright and they uncrtiically slurp up her vomitous lies the way fundamentalists uncritically slurp up the junk in the bible.
LattimoreBeasley 2 years ago
LOL! Robert Price even wrote the forward to 'Who was Jesus?' and endorsed 'Suns of God' after reading it! He took back all of his negative sentiment after revising the material.
dudekin 2 years ago
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LattimoreBeasley 2 years ago
hahahaha :D Christams song Jesus tap dancing Christ I can't believe she actually did that ahahaha xD
GompCelticPL 2 years ago
SUNS OF GOD is delightfully convoluted, deliciously eccentric, and full of entertaining idiosyncratic peculiarities. It's a classic in the same wild and wooly genre as THE TWO BABYLONS, THE WORLDS SIXTEEN CRUCIFIED SAVIORS, and the two T.Lobsang Rampa romps THE THIRD EYE and MY TRIP TO VENUS. THE CHRIST CONSPIRACY, also by Acharya S, is definitely not to be missed! All of these books belong in every library for their wealth of kooky disinformation and precious conspiracy theories
LattimoreBeasley 2 years ago
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LattimoreBeasley 2 years ago
Oh God...
Of course she knows the meaning of 'magi', she elaborates on it in her works.
Please read some of her books before spreading misinformation.
dudekin 2 years ago
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you bible bangers are reading long ago thought out manipulation with no proof of anything they write other than certain religions or non believers need to be punished and killed..one jealous god you worship. and evil too. if your god cant be right he will burn you for eternity..nothing i care to spend my time praying too..
camaro517 2 years ago
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jesus is man made for an excuse to control your thoughts. they use the bible they wrote to feed your mind..the problem with the bible is that its a collection of mans shortcomings but it was written by man not god or jesus. the story of jesus was madeup by he who controls the money system. i belive the vatican is probably rewriting portions or adding more to these text for future generations to follow. especiallly the parts about what country we need to go to war with..
camaro517 2 years ago
"i believe the vatican is probably rewriting portions or adding more to these text for future generations to follow. especially the parts about what country we need to go to war with.."
Ok I don't care what you believe or what you don't believe. But making such unsopported, absurd claims like these shows how ignorant you are about what you are talking about.
Hope you really begin to actually think about what you are saying. Peace.
kidart89 2 years ago
the father of lies has limited time. he will say any and everything to drag as many souls with him to hell. he resents mankind. jesus is the only way, dont you people see that? he died to help our souls so that they may not die. he loves us, what loving father does not sacrifice for his children? what loving father does not correct the mistakes of his children? dont disown your father, dont let the devil hide the way from you. jesus is the only way.
displaced36 2 years ago
god is much more than we will ever know..the bible was written by man not god ,,to control us..religious institutions are just that..institutions for you to support with your money..just another corrupt business to say whos right or wrong no unity just a tool to brainwash and feed financially...wakeup followers use common sense..
camaro517 2 years ago
you are in no way a more credible source than the bible. your words are of your own tangled imaginations. lucifers lies will do that to you. i am wide awake and using common sense, my soul will not share hell with the devil for believing his lies. the words of the prophets of the one true god are coming true and have always came true for a reason. god does not lie
displaced36 2 years ago
if you want to believe the zeitgeist then do so. it caters to selfishness and false absolution from gods judgement, i understand why its a popular concept, we are sinful by nature. it doesnt take money or a religion to cause that. even toddlers who have no concern of those things still misbehave. futhermore if you use common sense ask yourself why does the zeitgeist use deception slandering jesus?
displaced36 2 years ago
acharia s got served
displaced36 2 years ago
the invisible man in the sky is a myth. created for control and profit and excuse for wars to increase the empire and institutions of the elite wealthy who control us..
camaro517 2 years ago
the papacy did not create god. but they did mock him and persecute his people and anyone else who would not agree with their blasphemy, and mockery of gods laws, the devil used gods name, and his counterfeit christian religion to do evil, read the book of daniel, compare that to a history book, find out the truth about the little horn, papal rome
displaced36 2 years ago
God Bless you guys! Jesus will be known around the world! :D
FccB24 2 years ago
I feel sorry for the good people who read her works without doing any research and just believing her because she sounds credible. Seems to be a major these days. If the person sounds intelligent and has a detailed presentation then they must be right.
There is an obvious agenda behind Zeitgeist and it's not a good one.
Probesoul 2 years ago
at 6:15 this dumb ass calls acharya lame and like a little kid..before he goes on to make a little kid voice, make fun of her even more and then continues to judge her so speculative opinions. WOW.. ANOTHER ANIT ZEITGEIST VIDEO WHICH IS GAY.
socratiz 2 years ago
and you still believe it, thats ok. believe what you like, even if it is a lie. it still wont make jesus go away, he is still coming back, like it or not, nothing you or all the unbelievers in the world united can do to stop it
displaced36 2 years ago
Ofcourse hes coming back!!! HES THE SUN!!!
socratiz 2 years ago
where in the bible does it say jesus is the sun?
displaced36 2 years ago
He Is the Light!!! Do you see any other Source of Light anywhere near by???
Wake up. You worship a dead story.
While you miss the message
socratiz 2 years ago
yeah i do, lets see.. there is fire, lanterns, candles, nowaday we got electric lights.. if you think that is a valid argument then show me that scripture and watch me ATTEMPT to prove to you that it doesnt mean the sun. you seem to have the same problem as acharya s tho. denial and more denial
displaced36 2 years ago
since you cant find one here you go... Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, the LORD shall be a light unto me. now do you see how it doesnt literally mean the sun? can you tell what it means yet? HOPE in times of TROUBLE, TRUTH against LIES, LIGHT in times of DARKNESS. such as the luciferian teachings of zeitgeist are TROUBLE, DARKNESS, and LIES, the lord certainly is a marvellous LIGHT isnt he?
displaced36 2 years ago
How many people die from the wrath of God in the bible. I can assure you because of that. He is not talking about Hope. For where there is a Criminal, Or a man lost in pain, there must be hope. SO WHY KILL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE? What hope was there? Maybe I just kill you in hope of you goin to a better place. And you can do the same. Hope. hahaha Your funny. You talk of a god whos messages is hope..But then you believe in these lies. You my friend Are a Sheep.
socratiz 2 years ago
yes indeed! alot of people died from the wrath of god in the bible, and alot of people are going to hell.. well you have freewill, you dont have to believe in god, or like him, that is your problem. and the only thing you can assure me of is that you are too proud for your own good.
displaced36 2 years ago
you're probably right, but while you're on the vein of frankness, most Christians don't take the stance that it's acceptable to not believe in or dislike God. Did you know that.
samqueler 2 years ago
that is because it is not acceptable for a christian to not believe in god, or to dislike god. just as it would not be acceptable for someone who is not a christian to be forced to become a christian against that persons freewill.
when i wrote what i have written about freewill. that was me saying, you are making your own choice to "socratiz"
was also trying to point out the fact that those he says were killed from the wrath of god
had freewill. they have made their choices.
displaced36 2 years ago
i was explaining to "socratiz" how that when god, or jesus was referred to as the "the light" it is foolish for one who has the light of the lord to assume it means the sun, the sun is something from which all men can see and benefit from, christian, and otherwise.
the teachings of acharya s are a darkness. the teachings of the word of god, is a light exposing these lies. he couldn't seem to understand that" the light" is help against our enemies because of them that perished from god's wrath.
displaced36 2 years ago
you sound like you're describing Obama or something.
thoseofmiddlearth 2 years ago
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displaced36 2 years ago
You guys make a lot more sense than she does. I'm really grateful for this video. :-)
jonmahoney04 2 years ago 2
She's so cute in her ignorance of world religions and paganism. LightThirst is right, she does NOTHING to help the cause; maybe she just did this to hear herself talk :)
Hokabelle 2 years ago
I really agree with alot of whats in Zeitgeist but i think it's clear that they should have left this subject well alone till they could prove some of it this woman does nothing to help the cause...
LightThirst 2 years ago
No, Christians have to defend what popes, saints, apostles says. They are like god's vicar on earth. Especialy popes. Don't I get something here?
I want to note, that i am not against historical Jesus. Even being atheist, i very much accepted that jesus could be historical. No problems with that, but as far i see, there is no evidence about jesus, as no evidence about unicorns...
ricardas83 3 years ago
Youre kidding me right? You think all the Protestants adhere to what the pope says? Do you even know what the reformation is? The Pope and saints are very much a catholic doctrine, Protestants do not recognise the Pope, and CERTAINLY, do not defend anything he says other than what is universally agreed in christianity (I.e, Jesus being the son of God). Atleast as far as they see it.
scotsocool 3 years ago
Yes, i know what reformation is, dear scholar :). As i said, i was actualy not sure do i get what you want to say.
Anyway, in zeitgeist there was no talk about diferent confessions. THere was facts, that christianity as it was, was build on the root of pagan. That is the point. The control. Of course later there was disunity. But that is just more funier about christianity.
ricardas83 3 years ago
Its a slap in the face to paganism
scotsocool 3 years ago
what do you mean?
ricardas83 3 years ago
Well, considering all the private companies are going bust appart from ones the government select to back up (not just the banks). Our only way to find work will be government institutions, including the military.
If you google for, operation joint warrior, there was the biggest military exercise ever back in october, in scotland and wales (part of the UK) where the brits and 8 other countrys practised with live ammo fighting a ''state sponsored terrorist organisation with moder weaponry''.
scotsocool 3 years ago
There practising for something big clearly. I never really bought into all this conspiracy stuff, it is certainly interesting, but, that info is listed on the UK's offical military site :\
scotsocool 3 years ago
One big shit :(. I hope humanity will destroy itself. No reasons for living for such stupid animals.
ricardas83 3 years ago
That guy on video knows nothing, becouse, for example, he says, that Horus didint born on december 25th. Yes, you wont find egyptinas writings with dates like we see it today, but the fact is that egyptians celebrated the born of horus... on winter solstice. SO WTF?!?!?!? I wont comment other sh*t for know, but it seems to me propaganda.
ricardas83 3 years ago
It doesnt matter if they did, there is no biblial evidence that christ was born on the 25th. Infact I believe most put it at september (ish).
Christianity did however as basically a fuck you to pagenism, take some of there traditions. E.g the popes title of ponteif maximus was the name of a roman pagen leader and christianity took it to say, we have won, and replaced pagenism.
It isnt plagerism, its up screw u.
scotsocool 3 years ago
Yes, you right, there is no evidence that christ was born on 25th and, of course, there is no evidence, that christ did born at all. Day 25th, as christ birthday, estimated by church, proves, that christinity was build on top of paganism to control people, not to spread word of jesus. Those, who want to debunk zeitgeist, and saying, that jesus did not born on 25th, just cutting branch on wich they sit, becouse they show by themselfes, that christianity is one big lie. Please no swearing :).
ricardas83 3 years ago
I disagree. The December 25th birthday is not biblical, Christians do not need to defend a notion that was started about 400years after the alleged events and that was popularised by the Victorians (and coca cola). You are trying to paint a guilty by association plea here, of which I very much contest.
There is plenty evidence for the historical Christ, its whether or not he was the son of God that the contention between Christians and non believers arise.
scotsocool 3 years ago
I can't even believe she actually made the argument about Dec. 25
I knew her "facts" were wrong, but I had no idea she was this much of an amateur. Wow
seanboy80 3 years ago
the one who made zeitgeist should reformed that religion part and explain that government use the bible for it,s own purpose..but that doesn,t mean that the bible is astrological s***
but on the other hand christians shouldn,t be systematicly against zeitgeist in demonizing those films and movement for its goal in honorable:it is to free us from lies and materialistic/money power which is dehumanize us all!!
nietzschescode 3 years ago
Wouldnt be so sure, if you watch, the second movie, it is lifted right out of what the comunits told there people.
Enslavement always arises out of promises of heaven.
scotsocool 3 years ago
not so sure about what? if zeitgeist goal is honourable? i think it is. their second film is much better because they don,t speak about the unspeakable and they don,t try to size it in inventing false mythology over what they don,t know...the opposite : on the second film they went right to the point. they decyphers the REAL problems...if the way to free us from it will work with time,,,? we will see but the important thing was to revealed it....
nietzschescode 3 years ago
Luckily, you got me just as I was heading off to work :P.
If you watch addendum, it goes onto all this stuff about solutions, and it essentially promises heaven on earth. Which is exactly what the comunists did and something repeated through history. I have no doubt many people are genuine in wanting to change things for the better but historically, your asking for trouble.
scotsocool 3 years ago
and me, Kovalev just scored his 3rd goal lol
you are right but we have also to take some risks if we are not happy and not able to develope ourselves and all our human capacities in that present statu quo...but of course it would compromise a world of ferraris ;D
nietzschescode 3 years ago
If you look at what these NWO elites are apparantly planning (killing most of us), surely this system that is touted in zeitgeist makes it so much easier to do that?
scotsocool 3 years ago
well they already killed our soul and spirit..now he are robots working for those elites
but i agree that the change should be an inner change in the society and not to create somewhere a village of zeigeist...it is a bit to have such goal for if we craete a village of zeitgeist the NWO will destroye it really fast. i guess they were wrong with that part,,but they also talked about a long lasting changing attitude in humanity, not necessarely an immediate and concrete "war" in a village
nietzschescode 3 years ago
communists? well in the essence of communism was a good idea but is and was in the hands of corrupted men
enslavement communisms ideal? no is to be free here and now on heart..not in another possible better or worst life after our physical presence on earth,but you are right in general about enslavement but what a bout the enslavement we get now?? do we have a promise of heaven in being enslav by depths caused by few men? no! the modern enslavement is a promise of NOTHING here, now and never....
nietzschescode 3 years ago
That wasnt my point if you look at the comunist countrys, it was socialism for the masses, and royal treatment for the elites, which in rality isnt all that far removed from capitalist countrys in the west.
I am extremly skeptical of people who promise heaven in general (including the religions). The scope for abuse and the nesesity if power in such a soceity, be it by machines or not to my mind is inviting problems
scotsocool 3 years ago
well what is your solution? or do you think that is not a problem the world where you and i live in?
nietzschescode 3 years ago
Am not so sure about solutions to tell you the truth, there clearly is something wrong with our current system but am not so sure its by accident, at the risk of sounding paranoid, I think there is an underlying malicious intent going on.
Considering what is goin on in finance, I do think though regardless what we do, the old system as we knew it is done./
scotsocool 3 years ago
Archaya S is working for the NWO whether she realises it or not.
Randomicity912 3 years ago
you are right that she,s working for NWO....and she is probably worshiping herself the sun that i won,t be really surprised...and she is trying to mix every myths and truth so that we could believe that the only truth is her false idol....that is so sad that it was included in Zeitgeist that part about religion because it is putting discredit on the rest of the message about politic and economy...
nietzschescode 3 years ago
it is not really convincing that video....the narrator guy is, let's be polite, a -little bit- arrogant....tst tst tst not really really -christan- as an attitude lol
nietzschescode 3 years ago
The "that's un-Christian" doesn't really address the points raised though.
Randomicity912 3 years ago
the one who made zeitgeist should reformed that religion part and explain that government use the bible for it,s own purpose..but that doesn,t mean that the bible is astrological s***
but on the other hand christians shouldn,t be systematicly against zeitgeist in demonizing those films and movement for its goal in honorable:it is to free us from lies and materialistic/money power which is dehumanize us all!!
nietzschescode 3 years ago
Its just funny when Christians get all 'scientific'. Ridiculous. Religion is man made. Whether or not Jesus existed is irrelevant when you realize it is but 1 religion on the planet Earth. Go to another country and examine thier culture. Realize your religion is a reflection of your ethnocentric western viewpoint that is in fact 1 way of seeing things--not the end all.
gobbler6 3 years ago
actually you should understand that the human condition is the commonality, and since religions/spiritual beliefs are created/come about as a response to the human condition, there will undoubtedly be simalarities. the only commonalities that are true have to do with everpresent/reoccuring themes in creation/nature. that does not mean all religions are the same. here's how they differ: some say theres 1 god and its evil to say there's more than that, some say there's many gods, thats DIFFERENT
fmmetamc 3 years ago
yeah but aren't these people arguing christians??
gobbler6 3 years ago
My GAWD she's an IDIOT!
DoctorSeppuku 3 years ago
Acharya is a complete ignoramus when it comes to the science of Astronomy (not the pseudoscience of astrology) or she would not make such assinine claims. Plus I have never heard anyone claims this fool is a freemason or satanist. I have a private detective locating her so I can tell her fathers son where she lives.
DoctorSeppuku 3 years ago
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The fact is, Jesus existed but he wasn't a miracle worker and all that childish superstitious crap. Acharyas MISTAKE is being a REDUCTIONIST with her head up her arse. You can't reduce religion to astrology or to hallucinogens. Christ, Acharya, yes there was some astrological influence, thats plain to see. You've tried to build a career on the sand of reductionism though. You lose lass because you're being so bloody damned stubborn. Hey! You studied Greek! I read and write Koine Greek!
DoctorSeppuku 3 years ago
This girl is almost not worth refuting, like debating someone who thinks the world is flat.
atheistnarnia 3 years ago 4
Hey DOROTHY MURDOCK aka Acharya Ass! If you're reading this, know that we know you're a lying bitch with an agenda and an axe to grind. Did I say you're a liar? I apologize! You're not a liar, your writings are just OOZING with Cosmic Truth. Cunt.
DoctorSeppuku 3 years ago 2
you guys should debunk ring of power next.
fmmetamc 3 years ago
you also gotta love that acharya s. charges (REQUIRES a minamum $7 "donation") to download the pdf of the companion guide to zeitgiest, and it says that the "illegal torrents" offering this book offer a fake version. well, i bought the book months ago, and compared it to 4 different torrent downloads of it, and not one word in the entire thing is different. WHO'S TRYNA GET MONEY?!?!
fmmetamc 3 years ago
DOROTHY MURDOCK aka "Acharya S" the guru-gal who wrote The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of various gasses. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTTAL parts 1-3 and ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10. No, I'm not going to summarize these videos for the lazy asses out there. Do your own viewing and thinking.
DoctorSeppuku 3 years ago
The reason jesus was persecuted is because he was the heir to the throne of rome, being the son of Julius Cesar & Cleopatra, cesarian was his name. Watch Ring of Power. Jesus was New World Order. Oh, & I've seen alot of videos saying she is a satanist, freemason.
wade36 3 years ago
The claims made in Zeitgeist have no basis in fact. Acharya S gives us Atheists a bad name.
PissedFechtmeister 3 years ago 4
I agree with everything about the Zeitgeist movie I & II. but when it comes to the religion parts, its questionable. Resourceful yes, but misunderstood as a whole.
ironman36 3 years ago 3
4:45
lol. science destroys Dorothy Murdock / Acharaya S
I almost pity those who suppport her work.
Synth3t1cs 3 years ago 2
DOROTHY MURDOCK aka "Acharya S" the non-scholar who wrote The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of methane gas or is lying or both. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTTAL parts 1-3. ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10, and Second Look: Zeitgeist Movie and Religion. No, I'm not going to summarize these videos for the lazy asses out there. Do your own viewing and thinking.
MagusSolitudo 3 years ago 3
Good job guys...
Funny thing about her comments i found interesting, though... the idea that she claims it is defamatory to call someone a freemason, or government secret service agent, etc.
mike6291 3 years ago
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DOROTHY MURDOCK, the non-scholar who wrote The Cripes Conspiracy and The Buns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of crap. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTAL parts 1-3. ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10.
MagusSolitudo 3 years ago
I won't buy everything she says, but even I can see figures from the constalations depicted in the bible. Which problably was the spark to search for other similarities between religions. I never bought everything in zeitgeist either, since I haven't seen/sought out information from other individual sources to support its many claims. Which is why I wish to see some serious correcting/debunking, not childish ridicule you thirdrates presents. at least do reaserch from everysides of the issue;)
Vnicolas 3 years ago
One more comment. I have always referred to these three stars in Orion as Orion's belt. I honestly have never heard them called the Three Kings until watching Zeitgeist. Thanks again guys for breaking this stuff down.
theophany1770 3 years ago
"As well?" at 2:43. Thanks guys. She is clearly being deceptive.
theophany1770 3 years ago
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Everything mentioned in zeitgeist is fact. You can research for yourself by reviewing its sources at zeitgeistmovie com.
Meanwhile, here are some bible verses for everyone to look up for fun...
Psalm 19:7 (the law of the lord is PERFECT)
Isaiah 40:8 (the law of the lord is FOREVER)
Exodus 35:2 (KILL everyone who works on Sunday)
Deuteronomy 21:18-21(KILL rebellious teenagers)
Leviticus 20:13(KILL gay people)
Deuteronomy 22:13-31(KILL women who are not virgins when they marry)
un000890 3 years ago
thanks and sorry for my english i know more spanish!! take care!
Yanyos 3 years ago
mitology and imaginary persons,that many people beleives.I feel good in this way,if u born in india right now near to Saibaba ur going to beleive in him.not in jesus and thats the way this works,i know we have a way of things come to the universe,but i dont beleive in a person with powers up in the skies waiting for me my friend.
Yanyos 3 years ago
Not clearly refutations.not good ones not exact points just more arguments this movie help other study and read more,not just the controversial bible,the only book,with ...
Yanyos 3 years ago
Ur a fanatic and ur analysis its so stupid.... so many contradictions and so many strange things in all this shit!! so i beleive in Zeitgeist almost ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck stupid bible! and all of ur gods!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yanyos 3 years ago
We are not trying to offend you. We are just showing that Zeitgeist CANNOT be rationally believed. If you still accept Zeitgeist as a factually truthful movie, you completely ignorant of facts.
ZeitgeistDebunked 3 years ago