Home Made Electric Car

[samjenkinssam]

some great inforamtion here thanks

[osclarkos]

This is a great video

[mdgonnuscio]

how did he get around the DMV????

[nubserver]

@mdgonnuscio doesn't need to be gas engine to be DMV approved..all it has to have it be safety approved...

[proaudiohd]

The roadblock is the COST of the batteries. We can make batteries with enough capacity and performance, but they cost tens of thousands of dollars. Not many people are willing to pay that premium. Plugin hybrids will serve as the entry point to get batteries into volume production. As the cost comes down, expect an affordable EV with enough range to be your only car. Electric is the future, no doubt.

[tonyg445]

20miles for 3hr charge takes me 10 miles 2 get to work....wat if i wanted to stop at mcdonalds..f*uck electric. hybrids win

[fenderstratguy]

@tonyg445 The batteries and motors keep getting better. And when you stop, your motor is not using energy, so you can stop at McDonald's all day if you like. Electric cars ROCK, man. I rode in a Tesla and it was amazing. Soon you'll be able to get your old fossil car converted locally...especially if it's got a good sleek body, isn't super heavy, and some storage area low in the body.

[gullenator1]

@tonyg445 This was a converted car from a junk yard by a hobbyist... The Tesla Model S can go about 320 miles on a single charge and can charge in around an hour on 480V. Every car manufacturer from BMW to Ford is scrambling to produce pure EVs. Hybrids are a transient technology, more of a stepping stone. Energy density is the only issue significant hurdle facing widespread ev adoption. How do hybrids win exactly?

[Plazimicir0x]

@gullenator1 320 miles on a single 1 hour charge sounds very good compared to spending so much for gas. I'm confident in electric vehicles now that I have seen your comment, if we can do that and then make it affordable for everyone that would be fantastic.

[alexHG123]

I know one of the few RAV4 EV drivers and it is true that the EVs do not require as much or frequent maintenance because electric motors have so little moving parts. This also contributes to less energy lost and efficient use of the "fuel" which is around 80 percent. Compared to ICE with far lower efficiency around 35 percent. While there is a limitation with current battery technology that will change with much current research. For instance, graphene batteries that could charges in mins.

[gullenator1]

@alexHG123 You speak the truth. We have been making electric motors for about 170 years now so it is a very mature and reliable technology. With 1 moving part, the rotor. Plus in the case of dc motors full torque at 0 rpms and about 90% efficiency it is superior in every regard to the ICE. We will have to see if materials science can catch up and give us some batteries with greater energy densities.

[fairyheli2]

twenty miles, still not going to solve any problems just yet... the baker electric from 1909 can do 100 miles to a charge. auto makers need to do something about it.

[TheVessapaperimuumio]

@fairyheli2

That's unfair. The Baker Electric cars can perhaps go almost a hundred miles per charge, but they're not exactly what we call cars today. They are disabled scooters with top speed around 20 km/h.

At 20 km/h a new homebuilt EV with lead acid goes pretty far on a single charge. Usable range is measured on a speed that is high enough to be practical. That might be 50, 80 or 100 km/h depending on vehicle, but not 20. A vehicle with a cruise speed of 20 is a wheelchair rather than a car.

[tyuiwas]

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[gfhnk]

HOW MCUH FOR AN ENGINE!!!!

[OK2BCK]

EVERYONE MUST DO THIS! :)

[omg2158]

1 person is a part of one of the car companies who buy out ideas like this one so that they can still make money even if the idea is good for the environment.

[specialks1953]

A car getting 20mpg would use 17.5 gal of gas to go 350 miles. At $3.50 per gal that would be $61.25 fuel cost. - He is saving 54.25 per month. It will take him 73.7+ months or 6.1+ years to save $4,000.00 in fuel cost. The batteries probably will not last 6 years, so that is going to increase the cost per month of electric driving a lot. Six batteries for about $800.00 - It seems he is much better at computers & fabrication than he is at economics. - Another FAIL for THE GREENIE WEENIES.

[fizzguts]

@specialks1953 It's actually worse than that. If you drove the unconverted car like the electric drives lousy acceleration etc the gas mileage would be heaps better. The conversion cost doesn't include his labor & the big arse traction batteries will cost a lot more than $800 to replace. I've never seen a lead acid pack in an EV get more than 15,000 mile before they are slag. When you add it all up even ignoring the conversion costs you break even. EV's don't burn gas EV's burn batteries

[specialks1953]

@fizzguts - Thanks for the response. You pointed out a bunch more reasons that it is a crap idea. I agree with your other points but I was just trying to show the bare bones comparison is so bad. There are so many things against it that it is borderline crazy. On another note, if the government has to subsidize 'green' with my tax dollars, IT SHOULD NOT BE DONE AT ALL. If someone wants to go 'green', I have no problem with that but I do not want to be forced to subsidize their ignorance ! ! !

[MrHobiecat]

@specialks1953 When was the last time you had to change the plugs, oil, filters, belts, hoses, coolant, or service the valves, rings,bearings, timing chain, ignition module...on an ELECTIC MOTOR.

An electric motor has ONE moving part that spins on a balanced axis. There is no question that an electric vehicle is far better than one with an internal combustion engine.

This guy has found a way to make it work for him. Why are you pissing in his cornflakes?

[specialks1953]

@MrHobiecat - You go on believing his electric car is better than an internal combustion engine car all you want. My first statement speaks for itself. The cost associated with his car is laughable & my estimates for batteries was conservative while my estimates for length of life were generous. The other cost of operation were conservative as well. I don't care about "green" nor do I want to subsidize with my tax dollars a technology that is not ready for use. Hate to piss in your cornflakes.

[MrHobiecat]

@specialks1953 He drives 20 miles a day => 430 miles a month => 5160m / yr.

It cost around 40 cents a mile to drive an internal combustion engine car. For him that was $2,064/ year before conversion.

He spent $4000, and greatly reduced both the fuel cost and the cost of ownership (maintance is reduced to tires and brakes).

His break-even point is closer than you think.

[specialks1953]

@MrHobiecat - Your 40 cents per mile is too high for an internal combustion engine car. You also neglect to factor in the maintainance of brushes in the motor as well as the cost of battery degradation that decreases efficiency & the batteries are to be considered consumables. His cost per mile is higher than you think. All cost associated with both types have to be considered. Have a good day. You can not effectively prove your point and neither will I.

[MrHobiecat]

@specialks1953 40 cents a mile is what the government allows for cost of a self employed contractor to use for business expenses, and it includes the cost of the fuel.

Brushes?! Really? When was the last time you had to replace the brushes on ANY large motor, in ANY appliance or device? Ok, Ive give you that, $4 a year to replace the brushes :^)

[specialks1953]

@MrHobiecat - Appliance motors typically do not have brushes but DC motors typically do. I have to replace brushes in some of my equipment twice yearly, they are AC motors. Many AC & DC motors use brushes. Read about it. Educate yourself. - - What the government allows as an expense write off is not a representation of what a true cost for what a 1993 Talon with an internal combustion engine car would cost per mile. I live in the real world. - No further discussion needed for me.

[beconsistant1]

@specialks1953 its still 10x cheaper than gas i spend 200 to 400 in gas he spends 7 bucks extra on the lite bill be serius even if i had to pay 150 for all this maintence i still would come out cheaper stop hating and trying to protect your job just learn how to fix electric motors

[specialks1953]

@beconsistant1 - You idiot, I do appliance repair, I am not trying to protect my job. My job is very safe. I did the math. I am not someone that just thinks it will work because some media attention & lame claims. - If you think it is so great, build one yourself. - Good luck with that but it WILL NOT be 10X or even any cheaper when it is all over & done. - You people that believe this shit amaze me! - Like I said, I did the math. - I live in the real world & it doesn't matter if you believe me!

[beconsistant1]

@specialks1953 you sound like the dummies of old man can't fly blah blah blah the idiot seems to be the one who limits man and says he can't do something. they told the wright brothers to live in the real world idiot!

[specialks1953]

@beconsistant1 - You ignorant fool, Just do the math & research! I do not care what you think of me (not good) & it doesn't matter what I think of you (even less).- What matters is this is not real help to our economy & not a way to help People save on transportation needs. - Not, Even in a tiny way does this answer a method of an economic alternative, nor does it address the Bullshit "energy alternative"! - As for climate change, I do not believe Humans are responsible for it. - END OF IT!!!!

[protoborg]

@specialks1953 You only have to "replace the brushes" if the motor is used beyond its design tolerances. The average electric motor does NOT need the brushes to be replaced... EVER. Also, considering that there is, in fact, an electric car being sold in this country, you obviously do not know the true operational costs of an electric vehicle yourself.

As far as the battery is concerned, you don't measure the efficiency of the fuel source (battery). Efficiency relates to the load (car).

[specialks1953]

@protoborg - Some DC motor brushes do have to be replaced. I had a golf cart that I had to replace the brushes to extend motors useful life. The motor in this car has brushes from what I can tell. - My cost of operation was in reference to this home made car, not the big car productions. - Please buy an electric car so I can use your share of gasoline and diesel. Thank you in advance. - - PS: If electric cars were really viable, they would not need Government Subsidies, My Tax Dollars!!!

[specialks1953]

Drive 20 miles, stop for a 3 hour charge, drive 20 miles, stop for 3 hour charge, repeat as necessary. WHAT A F-ING JOKE.

[MrHobiecat]

@specialks1953 you mean like COMMUTING TO WORK EVERYDAY?

The joke is on you!

[specialks1953]

@MrHobiecat - Yes I mean like commuting to work everyday. Far too many people commute more than 20 miles to work each day then they have to make it back home. Traffic will reduce the 20 miles this POS gets by quite a bit. If you think this POS is a good idea, feel free to build one yourself. Let me know how that works out for you. LOL

[MrHobiecat]

@specialks1953 the guy built it himself

he designed it to meet HIS NEEDS

if he commutes further, he could put MORE BATTERIES in it.

Your grasp of motor vehicles is underwhelming

[specialks1953]

@MrHobiecat - I understand that he built it himself. It seems that is what the story was about. That does not change the fact that it has already cost him far more than he will ever come even close to recovering in it's lifetime. He did it to see if he could. I doubt he did it to save money but if he did, it is a EPIC Failure! Electric cars are not ready for real public consumption. Maybe some day but not now. If it were practicle, it would not need governmental subsidies with my tax $.

[efahrenholz1]

If you guys didn't catch it, a single charge only provides 20 miles of travel. This is a great concept if you only need to stay in the local area and don't drive a lot during the day--but for most people communting over 20 miles a day this isn't going to cut it. The problem with electric vehicles is the lack power capacity. You can't get the energy from batteries yet, so car manufacturers have made efficient gas generators to supplement powering the electric motor.

[davidpaulbryant]

I pay about $350 a month for fuel now. So $7 sounds pretty good. So in about a year, the electric car has paid for the conversion. Plus you know you are not sending more money to foreign countries.

[amerist]

He doesn't have to pay gas prices but how long will it take to recoup the cost of his $4000 upgrade? Also there was no mention of the range of this vehicle. Something tells me he's not getting any where near 350 miles on a single charge.

[72fr250]

@amerist Clearly said 20 miles per charge at the end.

[amerist]

@72fr250 Oh OK thanks. I must have missed that the first time I watched the video.

[BumbleBeeGS]

$750? he over paid lmao

[y2kjorgeavila]

Because they lose money.

Wat we need is work to together.

theres people out there that can help.

He did good but it can be better. Mod the alternator or get a more powerful one can get him more speed, power. save money on the electric bill. Find a better Bat.

[RavenPrecept]

@y2kjorgeavila A battery maker approached an electric car maker saying he could make the cars go faster and farther. The car maker was so impressed he bought the company and all the patents....... then closed it down! Watch Who Killed The Electric Car.

[gorgeousdzastr]

20 miles?

ROFLMAO

I cant go to work with that. I will not make it. Damn....

[hotcowboy313]

Nissan " Leaf" 100 % Electric ... 100 mile range ... 6 hours to charge it at 220 vts. Coming out in 1 year... Already have a deposit on one. I have solar cells now, and I am putting a 4k wind turbine from urban green on my roof soon. Already have electric heat for my house. As soon as we are 100 ele. we will save $ 10,000/yr. from buying fuel !!!

[1937dodge406]

lipo

[aznxwanabe]

Sucks to use if your traveling, only up to 55 on a 100 max highway...

[urbex2007]

20miles is useless!

[novembersierra28]

@urbex2007 mine does 100 miles. I know of a colleague's that can do 154miles.

not so useless anymore..:)

[samoht1977]

In Europe, if you do something similar, you'll be put to jail - because you're modifyng the car, because it's no safe anymore, because a TON of things... and especially, because you found a way to cut the ubilical cord with big oil! no one cares if you're no longer polluting: you become outlaw, instantaneously.

[novembersierra28]

@samoht1977 not in the uk. e v a l b u m (*) com check out the mods on there

[m3141592]

Nice technology. Shame about the oil cartels running the government.

[novembersierra28]

@m3141592 yeah, build your own to combat this check out evalbum (*) com

[aorphia]

And if he would figure out a way to turn each wheel into a energy generator and place a small wind energy generator on each side on back of his car, then it may just provide him with enough energy to keep driving without having to re-charge his car batteries from the power company.

[dhruvilshah30]

@aorphia dud i had a same idea .that if i put generator i will make enough.i gone a try to make this type of .will u help me.i need some people for . this. i m living in ohio u.s.a. from which country u r?

[aorphia]

@dhruvilshah30 You make me laugh... First off, you don't sound like anyone from the United States and secondly, I suspect that you are living in another country, perhaps Nigira where most all the other scammers reside.

[novembersierra28]

@dhruvilshah30 won't work unless you're willing to spend $20,000...best thing to do is to run ev hub motors

[novembersierra28]

@aorphia anything like a wind generator creates drag. his car's DRAG COEFFICIENCY is around 0.30 (most modern cars)... generators cause friction...he will slow down as a result...there's no such thing as permanent energy

[arshdeep125]

Now all he needs to do is put solar panels on the roof of the and the hood and the trunk and he has 100% rechargeable batteries XD So if its a beautiful day outside all he needs to do is just drive outside ^^

[allawayjared]

I'm converting a Mazda B2200 to run on electricity, I used a taper lock and a sleeve my friend machined for me. The sleeve incorporates the splined hub from the old clutch plate. The splined hub of the clutch is attached to the taper sleeve. Put the splined hub on the transmission, draw the taper lock into the sleeve on the electric motor shaft, voila.

[Topazman12]

Who killed the electric car? Look for this movie. And still the big car companies tell us that it is impossible to make a car to run 100% electric.

[LouieWasHere66]

they did in 94-96 with the EV-1 by chevy or the Ford Ranger EV & a Toyota because the state of Cal. passed a law saying 10% of all new cars sold there must be 0 emission. so the auto and gas Ind. spent millions to get the law reversed once they did they crushed all the EV they made.

[DanieljDixon]

Some computer guy can do this IN HIS GARAGE, WITH A OLD WREAK, AND NONE OF THE THE AUTO MAKERS CAN DO THIS FOR US??? Come on... I am sick when I see things like this, and he is certain not the first guy I have seen with these alternative vehicles. I'd rather not even see these... IT PISSES ME OFF!!!

[IamDiabolik]

that is because car company are paid billions each year not to go electric by petro-gang companies

[DanieljDixon]

yep... and it's disgusting.

[antonio030562]

tHIS WILL PISS YOU OFF EVEN MORE...it's much easier to convert yr car to run on water (hydrogen) than convert yr car to run on electricity especially if yr car has been converted to run on lpg...

Also at universities they teach bullshit physics

Wait till you discover CONSPIRACY REALITY ..it will spin yr head

I'm glad to see so many people starting to wake up and question wtf our politicians and multinational companies are up too!

Truth is they r one of the same.

[TheYurry]

@DanieljDixon it's not that they can't do it the Arabic bilionares are lobing against it cause imagine you are a bilionare sitting on an oil mine and some car company builds an electric that runs on 1/100 of your price. i know i'd pay some bilion to pause their project

[DanieljDixon]

@Yurry It is good to be open to the possibilities, however these Mid-East Billionaires are there only because those who set-up the refineries in the first place wanted to shift oil production to the Middle East, rather than produce the huge oil fields here at home in Alaska and the Bakken oil field in the Dakota region. The globalists don't want to give up any of facets of their power, no matter how outmoded. The global warming push now gives them another facet of power... environmental police.

[sinkingrob11]

@DanieljDixon If its so easy why dont you fucking do it... Lol dont take that offensive I guess its the politicions.

[novembersierra28]

@sinkingrob11

i did it

[BumbleBeeGS]

@DanieljDixon The oil companies pay the governments to not allow them. Nissan made an EV thats 5 times better on range than this Talon. called the Nissan LEAF (It stands for something but im unsure)

100 Miles on a single charge, plugs into the wall.

[DanieljDixon]

@BumbleBeeGS We get jerked around at the pumps and I am sicken by the whole mess... time for some good ole We the People blowback!

[RavenPrecept]

@BumbleBeeGS Watch Who Killed The Electric Car, it's sickening.

[BumbleBeeGS]

@RavenPrecept i have a couple times in the last few years.

The government cant do shit about Fords new Focus BEV (Battery Powered Electric Vehicle) It'll be released in 2012. I have pics of the Focus plant where theyll be making them

[avenge1671]

Dude You Cannot Rely on Auto makers or government to give you this kind of vehicle. They work Hand in Hand with oil companies. They would lose all that money that we spend on gas. They need you to FILL they're pockets not empty them! Don't get Pissed off because this information isn't given to you directly. Go dig and find out how this is done you've already seen its possible now Go find out how. All Information is accessible to you. Just go looking instead of waiting.

[DanieljDixon]

@avenge1671 Trust me, I know how it works, but it still pissed me off when I see things like this.

[TheKaos90]

@DanieljDixon And big corporations say stuff like "Mmmm the electric car is still not ready for the road .... the technology involved is too much for now and it is difficult to make it efficient" - Well F**K you ! i think 55 mph is good enough to get around where you need to go and $7 a month "fuel" is pretty efficient in my book

[protoborg]

@DanieljDixon Actually, one American car company IS selling a purely electric car. They will even install the charging station for you. It costs a lot more than the equivalent gas car or even a hybrid, but at least it is a step in the right direction.

You would rather see the gas-powered cars sitting along side the road because we ran out of gas to put in them? It may not be something I have yet, but I want one and MIGHT be willing to spend the money for it... if I had the money.

[AccuracyMarked]

I've designed electric cars with all the batteries and controls, and the most difficult thing, for me, is fitting the motor to the standard drive train-gearbox....w/ clutch.....once you're over that point in mechanically coupling....the rest is easy...even the high-density lighter weight batteries.

[stopjunkscience]

Is the drive system for the brake servo an important issue here? Is this part difficult or hazardous? It seems to me as long as this important safety feature works no country should ban electric conversions...like uk?

[wind4watts]

Nice engineering marrying the clutch shaft to motor!, Finding room for enough batteries is usually a problem, lose rear seats or rear floorpan would treble range i guess, like on electric mini. What wattage motor did he need i wonder.

[AccuracyMarked]

they didn't say what type of motor he used...but I like the 8-HP D.C. 72 to 96 volt motors....8 HP is still light weight, powerful enough and uses less amps than a 24 to 48 volt motor.

[NathanTheOne]

20 mile thats quite shit but still a good idea