@affablegiraffable Most likely due to contaminants would be my guess. You can only purify so much, Plus there is always a chance something you didn't expect to get through. Whether this is the reason or not is just a guess, but it seems reasonable. I bet if you searched a bit you could turn up a paper or two on synthetic alcohol side effects.
@lawlzicle The reason the law says not to make alcoholic drinks with industrial ethanol is because then it could be made really cheap and people might get ripped off if it's not the "real thing." It's not any more dangerous than the kind we drink, but I think they require fermentation because it keeps the alcohol costs high and consumption rates lower.
@InsaneBurrito45 As the atoms decay they turn into different atoms, so when the last atom decays it dosent disapear it turns into a different element or elements.
@mickycheese27 It was neither created, nor anything similar happened 1.3 billion years ago. It formed from lumps of rocks in a young Solar system and it happened around 4.6 billion years ago.
@endimion17 1.3 billion years ago, intelligent life appeared on earth, even though the earth was created 4.6 billion years ago, carbon 14 should've decayed long ago then...
@ayrea that's the weird thing about infinity- if you had a number with infinite zeroes and a one and divided it, then the zeroes could still be infinite because infinity is not a set number- it theoretically doesn't exist.
@krstcmjns The radioactivity in alcohol would have nothing to do with an increased correlation in cancer. This is because you would get significantly more radioactive carbon through your regular diet than through the consumption of alcohol.
@InsaneBurrito45 You consider something having no radioactive material when the uncertainty in your measurement becomes larger than the value you are measuring. In essence there likely is still a handful of radioactive atoms in the sample, but there are so few your measuring device is unable to give you an accurate reading.
I'm surprised ethanol is made from anything besides from plant materials and yeast. The process is so cheap. Even if the alcohol was made from hydrocarbons so long as none of the original materials existed in the final product there would be no difference than plant-yeast alcohol except the radioactivity pointed out in the video.
@Pyrolonn I agree, alcohol is alcohol as long as it's pure. I can see why they would use the ethanol from crude, though. When you distill crude you get many products, not just one, and it would be a shame to let them go to waste. One of the petrochemical (by)products created in distillation is ethylene. Hydrate the ethylene and you get ethanol; very cheap, just add water! Let nothing go to waste.
@Wufnu I looked this up on Wikipedia and you are correct it can be done but almost never is done. The ethene produced has many other industrial purposes. Interesting all the same.
You Mr. have just solvesd all the problems with Britians drunk idiots. They behave like idiots, because they all have radiation sickness, as the drinks contain radiation that is frying thier brains.
@SabretoothSnowMan Wrong. We have Carbon-14 in our body at all times, it is not enough radiation to cause any harm. Although the term "radiation" is thrown around loosely, it is not as bad as people say. Radiation is all around us, only high amounts of it is dangerous.
There is a small mistake which could mislead listeners. The professor said something about the ethanol of alcoholic drinks should come from plants. Actually, the ethanol of alcoholic drinks does never comes from plants...it's the carbon inside the ethanol that should come from plants... because the ethanol is produced by the alcoholic fermentation process performed by yeasts using plant carbohydrates (containing the carbon) as the fuel.
i didnt even know one can get ethanol from crude oil...wiki: "Chemically pure ethanol may also be used to manufacture alcoholic drinks, e.g. Koskenkorva
@silentelysium (and others). I should have explained that making industrial alcohol is often much cheaper than making ethanol by fermention in a fine wine. So dosing wine with industrial ethanol is a way of increasing your profits and cheating your customers. Therefore, preventing wine being sold with industrial alcohol is as much about protecting the consumer as it is about safety..
Why should it matter if the ethanol in the beverage is from petroleum? Ethanol from plants is the same as synthetic ethanol both structurally and chemically.
@silentelysium that like saying a 1987 car is the same as one six years newer.. as long as they have the same chassis , engine, paint code, etc etc etc. Even cars change the carbon. young to old can be determined. one is deader than the other. We donlt want to drink dead (oil) hence the word radioactive is taken out of context here. We can't drink "dead stuff".. carbon 14 verifies, at a minimum, human compatible.
@boxer3main I think you just tangled yourself into a very confusing knot with that answer. He just wanted to know what's the difference using either kind of alcohol if it's the same thing.
You cannot date a car's age with radiocarbon dating, only stuff that is a plant or that has eaten plants in the past, and radiocarbon dating has a margin of error of about 80 years in average.
@silentelysium Ethanol is never 100% pure.. ethanol form industrial sources may contain substances which can be poisonous for example lab grade ethanol contains benzene which is a carcinogenic compound. Ethanol from plants wont have these poisons.
@InsaneBurrito45 The calculator keeps dividing down into decimal fractions of 1, but when we're talking about the number of atoms in a sample of matter, it is always an integer (whole number), usually a very large integer. In a small sample, say only a billion atoms, the calculator says you should have 0.46 atoms after 31 half lives. But you can't have half an atom; it's either 1 atom or 0 atoms. So, after 31 half lives, the chances are better than 50/50 that you have zero atoms of the isotope.
@InsaneBurrito45 Take a calculator, enter any number, then keep dividing it by 2. Before too long, it becomes very very small. But it never quite gets to zero.
How do you test if its Methanol or Ethanol in your vodka without drinking it and getting sick? And how much Ethanol do you need to process 1 cl Methanol?
@krstcmjns Btw, I'm only 16 so it's not like I know everything either. Alcoholic beverages is only slightly radiative. So are bananas, but they don't cause cancer. It's because ethanol is metabolized into acetaldehyde, a carcinogen, not because it is radioactive.
I wonder if it would it be possible to produce non-radioactive alcohol from plants raised in an atmosphere where the CO2 was entirely derived from petroleum...
"inerrancy of scripture." To simple minds there was no daylight between "inerrant" and "literally true." This sort of "fundamentalism" has more to do with the anti-science arguments of creationists than Miller's apocalypse. But perhaps that's what you meant by "and it's offshoots..."
And I laughed at "a very incomplete data pool." Good one!
@CommonRaven "Usher wasn't trying to contradict scientific findings"
Fair enough. But depending on what you mean by "and it's resulting offshoots" I might disagree. The reaction to men like Fox, Socinus, and Lord Herbert - spurred by 19th century advance in science, textual criticism, and the demythologizing of the search for a historical Jesus - led other men, CC Laws and those like him, to define those "fundamentals" without which one cannot be called Christian, including the
Further, you can use isotopes, particularly stable isotopes of oxygen, to tell exactly where a particular bottle of alcohol has come from, since the isotopic composition of groundwater varies regionally. Fake bottles of single malt scotch whisky are detected using this method.
Interesting but.... Is there really a problem with drinking alcohol derived from petroleum? Ethanol is Ethanol. A greater chance of contaminants perhaps?
It just seems to me, the less radioactive your drink is, the better.... =\
@L00NGB00W I did some googling and what I found was that industrial ethanol is typically denatured by adding various chemicals (sometimes toxic ones) in order to make it unfit to drink. The reason behind this is that there are heavy taxes placed on alcoholic beverages. Also, it's apparently possible to produce illegal alcohol from industrial ethanol. So, by denaturing the ethanol, the producers avoid legal issues as well as taxation. Also, biological ethanol probably tastes better.
@SonOfNye how can somebody believe in two contradictory ideas at the same time? unless they believe in a deism god that set the universe in motion and said "fuck it" and hid in a corner to jack off, then that is a somewhat reasonable belief... but when we say "god", its usually referring to the catholic god that is suppose to give a shit about us.
@killer2611 I'm merely pointing out the unfairness of your statement berating all those who believe in a higher power. And on a side note, if there is a god that set everything in motion and then "hid in a corner to jack off" as you so eloquently put it, I'd still be pretty thankful for that.
@killer2611 Don't be so angry. I agree with you in principle but I'd rather take this advice from Friedrich Nietzsche: "This precept, however, give I unto thee, in parting, thou fool: Where one can no longer love, there should one—pass by!—"
@30LayersOfKevlar We dont have that many kinds of Vodka In Denmark. Only like Cheep-Vodka,Smirnoff,Absolut vodka.. and so on.. Not those Unique special ones
@FlashFizz Unfortunately, ethanol from corn in the United States is an economic train wreck. (Ethanol from cane in Brasil is another matter.) Honestly the subsidies are more about paying off a valuable constituency -- farmers, esp. farmers in Iowa which is an important state in the presidential primary race. It is not environmentally sound and no way in 100 years will it replace imported oil.
Reminds be of the comment in New Scientist 25 years ago after the Chernobyl accident. The French had stopped buying British (Welsh) lamb because of the fallout that had landed on the Welsh hills. 'However', said New Scientist, 'the French have kept remarkably quiet about the fallout that has landed in the Champagne region' (I believe more fell in France than in GB) :-d
Ethanol is ethanol, no matter where it comes from or am I wrong? The molecules in the oil wells and oil industry and the molecules in your body don't care about what's happening around them so I don't really get it... I think I'd rather have non-radioactive ethanol so I won't be exposed to the insignificant amount of extra radiation and decay by-products. Even though I don't drink alcohol at all :p
@Quiksilver4eyes Industrial ethanol tends to be dried this can leave things like benzene in it, aromatic carbon compounds like benzene are known to be carcinogens.
As far as I know you can't get pure ethanol with destilation, you can only get to about 98% purity. So do you want the other 2% to be benzene or dihydrogen monoxide?
@bamboo4tameshigiri Yeah I kinda knew that, but thinking about alcohol made from Oil.. I never actually thought of that, quite weird actually... all the synthetic things we drink and/or eat :p
@crusiatusblack Did U know that 99% of all cosmetic creams and lipstick are made from petroleum crude oil (including all the high end "names"). A woman who puts on lipstick regularly, will annually ingests an average of 1kg of crude oil. Not to mention what's absorbed into the body through the skin.
Her significant other will also ingest a bit by kissing "-)
Soft drinks are very unhealthy, full of synthetic coloring and flavors. Diet are the worst because of artificial sweetener.
@trespire Oh my, that is also quite interesting to know. I knew about cosmetic materials being made from oil, however I did not know these numbers. annually ingesting an avarage of 1KG of crude oil, is just sick... I was always wondering for some experiment showing how much damaging materials go into diet soft drinks, those drinks (like a dark-colored drink I will not mention) are almost fully synthetic these days..
@crusiatusblack That "dark-colored drink" (!) and that likes of, contains 13 teaspoons of sugar per cup (200ml). I cant imagine that the glucose shock to the body can be good. This stresses the body's system to regulate glucose levels in our blood. And we wonder why there is so much diabetes.
Aspartime irreversibly damages neurons even in minuscule amounts.
All artificial sweeteners are aspartime based, no matter what commercialized name is used on the label, its the same compound.
@123resistance321 hmm, yes. but it's absolutely nothing to worry about--it really is a very, very small amount of radioactivity. And besides, we're already bombarded everyday by radioactivity from natural sources like the ground, cosmic rays, etc.
yes, chemistry is fascinating, too sad I'm not so smart I can learn it and find it fun to learn it and learn it fast and easdy. no, god had to make me stupiter than that, why god, why?
@goddeh69 no .... that is because your brain is letting some restrains from the body ( like from muscular fibers ) and also you get emotions more easly ( so in some cases you get adrenaline very easy so you go stronger )
and no .... radiation is in fact bad for the human body ... but in waaaaaay larger amounts .... this amount is not even felt ..... but the toxicity of crude oil is more harmful than the radiation.... so C14 is preferred .
hope this helps you understand drunkenness better :P
@FFSray Because alcohol [ethanol] is a by-product of crude oil refining, and may have trace amount of toxic substances, or other crude oil products left over from the refining process. So, when they distill off the ethanol from crude oil - you might get a tiny amount of benzene, methanol, propanol, etc. If they used this for drinking then the people drinking it would be poisoned by the impurities. Fermented alcohol, which has c14 has none of these problems.
Alcoloholic :p
sedwarg 1 month ago
And I always thought the "glowing" feeling came from the alcohol itself. Guess I'm wrong!
BarneySaysHi 1 month ago
why is synthetic alcohol bad?
affablegiraffable 2 months ago
@affablegiraffable Because synthetic alcohol isn't as radioactive. Obviously we need radiation. . . to um. . . well we must need it.
Olucatei 1 month ago
@affablegiraffable Most likely due to contaminants would be my guess. You can only purify so much, Plus there is always a chance something you didn't expect to get through. Whether this is the reason or not is just a guess, but it seems reasonable. I bet if you searched a bit you could turn up a paper or two on synthetic alcohol side effects.
p4plus2 1 month ago
@p4plus2 That sounds reasonableish but i kinda think that contamination would be a much bigger problem for nonsythetic alcohol
affablegiraffable 1 month ago
You are parody of Einstein
vip2441 7 months ago
Can someone tell me what is wrong with make alcohol using synthetic ethanol?
lawlzicle 8 months ago
@lawlzicle It'll kill you
DidntKnowWhatToPut1 8 months ago
@lawlzicle The reason the law says not to make alcoholic drinks with industrial ethanol is because then it could be made really cheap and people might get ripped off if it's not the "real thing." It's not any more dangerous than the kind we drink, but I think they require fermentation because it keeps the alcohol costs high and consumption rates lower.
NaniTreas1 7 months ago
@InsaneBurrito45 As the atoms decay they turn into different atoms, so when the last atom decays it dosent disapear it turns into a different element or elements.
wispa2 8 months ago
Earth was created about 1.3 billion years ago, that's a lot of carbon 14 or it has been made sometime in the middle. Something to think about.
mickycheese27 9 months ago
@mickycheese27 It was neither created, nor anything similar happened 1.3 billion years ago. It formed from lumps of rocks in a young Solar system and it happened around 4.6 billion years ago.
endimion17 9 months ago
@endimion17 1.3 billion years ago, intelligent life appeared on earth, even though the earth was created 4.6 billion years ago, carbon 14 should've decayed long ago then...
mickycheese27 5 months ago
@mickycheese27 C-14 is continuously replenished in the biosphere by the Sun.
endimion17 5 months ago
@endimion17 How? Only UV Infra red light hit the surface of the earth (visible light too), how can it radiate carbon then?
mickycheese27 5 months ago
@mickycheese27 Wikipedia: carbon-14
endimion17 5 months ago
@mickycheese27 I think Earth was created more like 4.6 billion years ago.
QuantumDisciple7 5 months ago
Could'/Would the radioactivity in very old wines validate their age?
FHomeBrew 10 months ago
@ayrea that's the weird thing about infinity- if you had a number with infinite zeroes and a one and divided it, then the zeroes could still be infinite because infinity is not a set number- it theoretically doesn't exist.
DactaDork 10 months ago
Alcoloholic Drinks, got it prof!
ConnorXV 10 months ago
ok .. 5000 years is a looooooooongggggggggggg time ~_~
JamuZ1234 10 months ago
I'm drunk right now! super powers, here I come!!! form of cirrhosis!!!
Idtelos 10 months ago
There is a missing "i" in the title: Periodc Table of Videos
lampofhell 10 months ago
It's illegal to sell non-radioactive beer here too!
Poleschs 10 months ago
Have you guys calculated the dose one would receive from a drink? I'd imagine it would be really small though.
shredsledder69 10 months ago
@shredsledder69
The more you drink, the bigger the value will become.
But you will be too drunk to care if you ever reach a dangerous level of radioactivity.
MarkAJAgi 10 months ago
All the best to the professor... His parkinson's is showing more. Not cool.
spacecowboy2k 10 months ago
@krstcmjns The radioactivity in alcohol would have nothing to do with an increased correlation in cancer. This is because you would get significantly more radioactive carbon through your regular diet than through the consumption of alcohol.
jswen31 10 months ago
@InsaneBurrito45 You consider something having no radioactive material when the uncertainty in your measurement becomes larger than the value you are measuring. In essence there likely is still a handful of radioactive atoms in the sample, but there are so few your measuring device is unable to give you an accurate reading.
jswen31 10 months ago
@InsaneBurrito45 theoretically, once you get a number with infinite zeroes, then a one, when divided by two, you get zero.
DactaDork 10 months ago
@DactaDork
theoretically, if you get a number, the amount of zeroes was not infinite.
ayrea 10 months ago
im gonna go get me some radioactive alcohol
at the counter:
me: whats your most radioactive alcoholic beverage?
server: surely you mean most alcoholic?
me: no most radioactive i want to make sure its legit!
server: i think someones already had too much alcohol for one day
me: ????
voiceofreason2008 10 months ago
I'm surprised ethanol is made from anything besides from plant materials and yeast. The process is so cheap. Even if the alcohol was made from hydrocarbons so long as none of the original materials existed in the final product there would be no difference than plant-yeast alcohol except the radioactivity pointed out in the video.
Pyrolonn 10 months ago
@Pyrolonn I agree, alcohol is alcohol as long as it's pure. I can see why they would use the ethanol from crude, though. When you distill crude you get many products, not just one, and it would be a shame to let them go to waste. One of the petrochemical (by)products created in distillation is ethylene. Hydrate the ethylene and you get ethanol; very cheap, just add water! Let nothing go to waste.
Wufnu 10 months ago
@Wufnu I looked this up on Wikipedia and you are correct it can be done but almost never is done. The ethene produced has many other industrial purposes. Interesting all the same.
Pyrolonn 10 months ago
err~~ It's good thing? wow! so interested! ^^
Talala0531 10 months ago
Poliakov vodka!
Qiyunwu 10 months ago
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE JOKE
SabretoothSnowMan 10 months ago
Very interesting.
SaraCufer 10 months ago
You Mr. have just solvesd all the problems with Britians drunk idiots. They behave like idiots, because they all have radiation sickness, as the drinks contain radiation that is frying thier brains.
SabretoothSnowMan 10 months ago 14
@SabretoothSnowMan Maybe one of the stupidest comments on youtube currently.
viper100200 10 months ago
@SabretoothSnowMan Just one small problem with that theory...
gizmoguyar 10 months ago
@SabretoothSnowMan Wrong. We have Carbon-14 in our body at all times, it is not enough radiation to cause any harm. Although the term "radiation" is thrown around loosely, it is not as bad as people say. Radiation is all around us, only high amounts of it is dangerous.
TehNickIsNoob 2 months ago
Oh hell. My absinthe is radioactive!
kuhlka 10 months ago
Don't worry guys, I'll drink more and get rid of all that radioactivity.
culwin 10 months ago 2
Wow really, so if I drink enough in America I can have super powers?! To the market!
spinseffing 10 months ago 49
@spinseffing ...or you will glow in the dark!
wb5rue 10 months ago
@CommonRaven LoL =)
No more radioactive than the food you eat, or the air you breathe.
L00NGB00W 10 months ago
There is a small mistake which could mislead listeners. The professor said something about the ethanol of alcoholic drinks should come from plants. Actually, the ethanol of alcoholic drinks does never comes from plants...it's the carbon inside the ethanol that should come from plants... because the ethanol is produced by the alcoholic fermentation process performed by yeasts using plant carbohydrates (containing the carbon) as the fuel.
jorstube100 10 months ago 2
@jorstube100 Semantics.
BenjaminFranklin2u 10 months ago
You forgot "Periodic Table of Videos" in the title!
ThePizzahero1 10 months ago
i didnt even know one can get ethanol from crude oil...wiki: "Chemically pure ethanol may also be used to manufacture alcoholic drinks, e.g. Koskenkorva
managarm1349 10 months ago
I'll drink to that!
MichaelKingsfordGray 10 months ago
@silentelysium (and others). I should have explained that making industrial alcohol is often much cheaper than making ethanol by fermention in a fine wine. So dosing wine with industrial ethanol is a way of increasing your profits and cheating your customers. Therefore, preventing wine being sold with industrial alcohol is as much about protecting the consumer as it is about safety..
ProfWithTheHair 10 months ago
Why should it matter if the ethanol in the beverage is from petroleum? Ethanol from plants is the same as synthetic ethanol both structurally and chemically.
silentelysium 10 months ago
@silentelysium that like saying a 1987 car is the same as one six years newer.. as long as they have the same chassis , engine, paint code, etc etc etc. Even cars change the carbon. young to old can be determined. one is deader than the other. We donlt want to drink dead (oil) hence the word radioactive is taken out of context here. We can't drink "dead stuff".. carbon 14 verifies, at a minimum, human compatible.
boxer3main 10 months ago
@boxer3main I think you just tangled yourself into a very confusing knot with that answer. He just wanted to know what's the difference using either kind of alcohol if it's the same thing.
You cannot date a car's age with radiocarbon dating, only stuff that is a plant or that has eaten plants in the past, and radiocarbon dating has a margin of error of about 80 years in average.
1971ojoalparche1971 10 months ago
@silentelysium Ethanol is never 100% pure.. ethanol form industrial sources may contain substances which can be poisonous for example lab grade ethanol contains benzene which is a carcinogenic compound. Ethanol from plants wont have these poisons.
cr0ss0ut 10 months ago
@InsaneBurrito45 The calculator keeps dividing down into decimal fractions of 1, but when we're talking about the number of atoms in a sample of matter, it is always an integer (whole number), usually a very large integer. In a small sample, say only a billion atoms, the calculator says you should have 0.46 atoms after 31 half lives. But you can't have half an atom; it's either 1 atom or 0 atoms. So, after 31 half lives, the chances are better than 50/50 that you have zero atoms of the isotope.
anonysquirrel 10 months ago
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@InsaneBurrito45 Take a calculator, enter any number, then keep dividing it by 2. Before too long, it becomes very very small. But it never quite gets to zero.
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anonysquirrel 10 months ago
@InsaneBurrito45 I don't know why you are so confused- what you just said is exactly right.
DactaDork 10 months ago
moral: when going to a bar in europe, carry a gieger counter
blade3412 10 months ago
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the way it should be :)
vinay0429 10 months ago
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So, ethanol made from petroleum is not pure? It contains toxic hydrocarbons? Such as benzene? Have I answered my own question?
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anonysquirrel 10 months ago
@paronfisk Add KMnO4. If you smell vinegar, then it is ethanol. If it smells particularly bad, then it is methanol.
TheBarnett8 10 months ago
How do you test if its Methanol or Ethanol in your vodka without drinking it and getting sick? And how much Ethanol do you need to process 1 cl Methanol?
paronfisk 10 months ago
Would it register on a Geiger counter?
jaelkoury 10 months ago
Alcolooholic XD
MusicMakerDude 10 months ago
Booze made in japan? Too soon?
kop4321 10 months ago 28
@kop4321 it hasnt been about 20 years yet but i still chuckled
flamingarse1 10 months ago
@krstcmjns Btw, I'm only 16 so it's not like I know everything either. Alcoholic beverages is only slightly radiative. So are bananas, but they don't cause cancer. It's because ethanol is metabolized into acetaldehyde, a carcinogen, not because it is radioactive.
NotMuchAlive 10 months ago
alcoloholic haha, love the prof!
acmilanshevachels 10 months ago 2
talk about NagaSake
MadPuppets1 10 months ago 2
I wonder if it would it be possible to produce non-radioactive alcohol from plants raised in an atmosphere where the CO2 was entirely derived from petroleum...
disorganizedorg 10 months ago
@disorganizedorg
Yes. Assuming that really is the only source of carbon, it's perfectly possible. Kind of ridiculous and expensive, but possible :)
Surtak 10 months ago
@krstcmjns No
NotMuchAlive 10 months ago
Would a Geiger counter be able to detect the radiation?
garfoonga1 10 months ago
whats wrong with crude oil ethanol?
rekinu5 10 months ago
Alcoloholic drinks is what the prof's been drinkin...
MoGaDeX 10 months ago
0:50 Alcoloholic? :p
Kev888 10 months ago
Wow, people are so scared of radiation when it's something naturally occuring in our own bodies and everywhere else. Cool stuff.
JonatanGronoset 10 months ago
I personally am not satisfied until my Margarita is glowing with Cherenkov radiation.
47f0 10 months ago 2
@47f0 I second this notion.
BLUUUU :3
JonatanGronoset 10 months ago
Respond to this video... (cont.)
"inerrancy of scripture." To simple minds there was no daylight between "inerrant" and "literally true." This sort of "fundamentalism" has more to do with the anti-science arguments of creationists than Miller's apocalypse. But perhaps that's what you meant by "and it's offshoots..."
And I laughed at "a very incomplete data pool." Good one!
ThePeaceableKingdom 10 months ago
@CommonRaven "Usher wasn't trying to contradict scientific findings"
Fair enough. But depending on what you mean by "and it's resulting offshoots" I might disagree. The reaction to men like Fox, Socinus, and Lord Herbert - spurred by 19th century advance in science, textual criticism, and the demythologizing of the search for a historical Jesus - led other men, CC Laws and those like him, to define those "fundamentals" without which one cannot be called Christian, including the
(cont.)
ThePeaceableKingdom 10 months ago
ive never heard about this before, very interesting
zythepsarian 10 months ago
but you can mix natural alcohol and industrial alcohol together to cheat the tests?
pyrioni 10 months ago
Further, you can use isotopes, particularly stable isotopes of oxygen, to tell exactly where a particular bottle of alcohol has come from, since the isotopic composition of groundwater varies regionally. Fake bottles of single malt scotch whisky are detected using this method.
Webofscience 10 months ago
Just stick a geiger counter in the bottle, simple enough.
2334Johnlegend34 10 months ago
So cool
antsunii 10 months ago
is there a layman's (normal person at home) way of testing this on the alcohol in your cupboard?
twstdelf 10 months ago
really interesting
Rufeo0 10 months ago
Interesting but.... Is there really a problem with drinking alcohol derived from petroleum? Ethanol is Ethanol. A greater chance of contaminants perhaps?
It just seems to me, the less radioactive your drink is, the better.... =\
L00NGB00W 10 months ago
@L00NGB00W I did some googling and what I found was that industrial ethanol is typically denatured by adding various chemicals (sometimes toxic ones) in order to make it unfit to drink. The reason behind this is that there are heavy taxes placed on alcoholic beverages. Also, it's apparently possible to produce illegal alcohol from industrial ethanol. So, by denaturing the ethanol, the producers avoid legal issues as well as taxation. Also, biological ethanol probably tastes better.
CrakenX 10 months ago
@CrakenX Thanks. So they make it inedible...=\
Seems like a waste to me...but I suppose there are other uses for ethanol.
"Also, biological ethanol probably tastes better."
Perhaps... It might be nice to try a purely man-made beverage, Kind of like the alocoholic version of coca-cola.
L00NGB00W 10 months ago
@CommonRaven Bishop Ussher (1581-1656) wasn't a Millerite... (just sayin'...)
ThePeaceableKingdom 10 months ago
A question I'd like to ask is, isnt the core of the earth radioactive? if yes, how come alcohol made from oil isnt radioactive?
helehole 10 months ago
@helehole Hi, crude oil does not come from the earths core, it's found in the earths crust with in geological formations shaped like a bell.
trespire 10 months ago
Look at the name of the vodka at 0:22
JackDigital 10 months ago
I don't see the difference really. Ethanol is ethanol. I doubt the body cares whether there is 0.000% C14 or not.
Kargoneth 10 months ago
another awesome video its a shame im going to somewhere else
reubenthorpe1992 10 months ago
I NEVER KNOW THAT!
Cickarn 10 months ago
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This can't be right, the earth is only 6000 years old!
[end sarcasm]
theslimeylimey 10 months ago 102
@theslimeylimey
yay 93 smart people liked ur comment... too bad the rest of the youtube population are complete retards and believe in god
killer2611 10 months ago
@killer2611 To be completely fair, you can believe in god and still believe in that the Earth is far greater than 6,000 years old.
SonOfNye 10 months ago
@SonOfNye how can somebody believe in two contradictory ideas at the same time? unless they believe in a deism god that set the universe in motion and said "fuck it" and hid in a corner to jack off, then that is a somewhat reasonable belief... but when we say "god", its usually referring to the catholic god that is suppose to give a shit about us.
what dumb asses.
killer2611 10 months ago
@killer2611 I'm merely pointing out the unfairness of your statement berating all those who believe in a higher power. And on a side note, if there is a god that set everything in motion and then "hid in a corner to jack off" as you so eloquently put it, I'd still be pretty thankful for that.
SonOfNye 10 months ago
@killer2611 The beliefs are not contradictory.
SonOfNye 10 months ago
@killer2611 Don't be so angry. I agree with you in principle but I'd rather take this advice from Friedrich Nietzsche: "This precept, however, give I unto thee, in parting, thou fool: Where one can no longer love, there should one—pass by!—"
Saves you time, trouble and quality of life.
unvergebeneid 10 months ago
Radio...radioact....B U R P...hips..!
erikvanhattum 10 months ago
Where can i buy that bottle of vodka. I mean the one "Mendeleev".. Im dying to find out.. Please respond :)
TheCoolboy140 10 months ago
@TheCoolboy140 Have you tried in liquor store ?
30LayersOfKevlar 10 months ago
@30LayersOfKevlar We dont have that many kinds of Vodka In Denmark. Only like Cheep-Vodka,Smirnoff,Absolut vodka.. and so on.. Not those Unique special ones
TheCoolboy140 10 months ago
@TheCoolboy140 Russia, I presume.
tmafkap 10 months ago
This should cook my liver
Films4You 10 months ago
I found a website quoting five reasons for Identifying the origin of ethanol. Here are two of them:
* It provides a means to use domestically derived synthetic ethanol to meet quotas and demands rather than imported ethanol.
* It protects the interests of biomass producers and investors investing in bio-ethanol production.
Here in the U.S., bio-ethanol is subsidized as a means to promote independence from oil imports (although we are a long way from achieving that).
FlashFizz 10 months ago
@FlashFizz Unfortunately, ethanol from corn in the United States is an economic train wreck. (Ethanol from cane in Brasil is another matter.) Honestly the subsidies are more about paying off a valuable constituency -- farmers, esp. farmers in Iowa which is an important state in the presidential primary race. It is not environmentally sound and no way in 100 years will it replace imported oil.
tiivc 10 months ago
Can you 'read' the radioactivity with a geigercounter?
prynja 10 months ago
Reminds be of the comment in New Scientist 25 years ago after the Chernobyl accident. The French had stopped buying British (Welsh) lamb because of the fallout that had landed on the Welsh hills. 'However', said New Scientist, 'the French have kept remarkably quiet about the fallout that has landed in the Champagne region' (I believe more fell in France than in GB) :-d
CrooksAlan 10 months ago
Ethanol is ethanol, no matter where it comes from or am I wrong? The molecules in the oil wells and oil industry and the molecules in your body don't care about what's happening around them so I don't really get it... I think I'd rather have non-radioactive ethanol so I won't be exposed to the insignificant amount of extra radiation and decay by-products. Even though I don't drink alcohol at all :p
FHomeBrew 10 months ago
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@ScientificStandard
That's how you make your money work for you!
0lCerebratel0 10 months ago
Maybe I'm missing something here but why is ethanol from oil any worse than ethanol from plants?
Quiksilver4eyes 10 months ago
@Quiksilver4eyes It's not that it's worse. It's something to do with fossil fuels, carbon emissions and all that I'd say.
rockerlkj 10 months ago
@Quiksilver4eyes Industrial ethanol tends to be dried this can leave things like benzene in it, aromatic carbon compounds like benzene are known to be carcinogens.
geeupson 10 months ago
@Quiksilver4eyes
As far as I know you can't get pure ethanol with destilation, you can only get to about 98% purity. So do you want the other 2% to be benzene or dihydrogen monoxide?
TimothyMass 10 months ago
@TimothyMass Dihydrogen monoxide? Not for me! I'll take hydrogen hydroxide...
ThePeaceableKingdom 10 months ago
@ThePeaceableKingdom Never mind, it's all water under the bridge :)
TimothyMass 10 months ago
Is there any reason why alcohol from plants is preferable to alcohol from oil?
amcnea 10 months ago
can anyone tell me where i can find some gallium
DCking14682 10 months ago
@DCking14682 Yes.
bamboo4tameshigiri 10 months ago
@bamboo4tameshigiri so
DCking14682 10 months ago
Short vid but contained a lot of information :)
kaczmarek3007 10 months ago
Im slightly disturbed that having ethanol made from crude oil in my drinks is enough of a concern that there is actually a way to test for it...
ferrett78 10 months ago
So, Alcohol is either Radioactive (from plants) or Non-radioactive (From oil)? And Alcohol from oil? What? Interesting
crusiatusblack 10 months ago
@crusiatusblack Chemistry can turn oil into pretty much anything. But then chemistry can turn pretty much anything into anything else.
bamboo4tameshigiri 10 months ago
@bamboo4tameshigiri Yeah I kinda knew that, but thinking about alcohol made from Oil.. I never actually thought of that, quite weird actually... all the synthetic things we drink and/or eat :p
crusiatusblack 10 months ago
@crusiatusblack Did U know that 99% of all cosmetic creams and lipstick are made from petroleum crude oil (including all the high end "names"). A woman who puts on lipstick regularly, will annually ingests an average of 1kg of crude oil. Not to mention what's absorbed into the body through the skin.
Her significant other will also ingest a bit by kissing "-)
Soft drinks are very unhealthy, full of synthetic coloring and flavors. Diet are the worst because of artificial sweetener.
trespire 10 months ago
@trespire Oh my, that is also quite interesting to know. I knew about cosmetic materials being made from oil, however I did not know these numbers. annually ingesting an avarage of 1KG of crude oil, is just sick... I was always wondering for some experiment showing how much damaging materials go into diet soft drinks, those drinks (like a dark-colored drink I will not mention) are almost fully synthetic these days..
crusiatusblack 10 months ago
@crusiatusblack That "dark-colored drink" (!) and that likes of, contains 13 teaspoons of sugar per cup (200ml). I cant imagine that the glucose shock to the body can be good. This stresses the body's system to regulate glucose levels in our blood. And we wonder why there is so much diabetes.
Aspartime irreversibly damages neurons even in minuscule amounts.
All artificial sweeteners are aspartime based, no matter what commercialized name is used on the label, its the same compound.
trespire 10 months ago
@trespire snopes debunked the lipstick eating myth.
ConquerorWorm1522 10 months ago
does this mean that everything i eat is radioactive?
123resistance321 10 months ago
@123resistance321 hmm, yes. but it's absolutely nothing to worry about--it really is a very, very small amount of radioactivity. And besides, we're already bombarded everyday by radioactivity from natural sources like the ground, cosmic rays, etc.
intermission101 10 months ago
I'll sick as a dog in the morning.
(/watch?v=0VnRdow_7fs)
seahawk124 10 months ago
Interesting Vid!!
AtheistKiwi 10 months ago
lol 0:51 alcoloholic drinks
nayrnayr93 10 months ago 3
@nayrnayr93 He's talking about America so that's his impression of George W.
sophieewohaa 2 months ago
Hmmm NO radioactive Carbon in oil?!?! What would Schrödingers Cat think about that?
sirhonkalot 10 months ago
so, SAKE is radioactive now?
-Sake is an alcoholic baverage from japan.
MrDannyArcher 10 months ago
@MrDannyArcher Some alcoholic beverages are advertised as extra strong. Sake is now extra radioactive :P
Direkin 10 months ago
yes, chemistry is fascinating, too sad I'm not so smart I can learn it and find it fun to learn it and learn it fast and easdy. no, god had to make me stupiter than that, why god, why?
Zee96969696 10 months ago
I suppose there is no simplistic way to test is there... not many of have the ability to carbon date our vodka.
canadianric 10 months ago
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Z1BABOUINOS 10 months ago
IM DRINKING RADIOACTIVE LIQUIDS NOW
jetlaged 10 months ago
Thanks Prof!
Intervene 10 months ago
this was too short!
BIGGGY305 10 months ago
@BIGGGY305 I agree! Super interesting, but the interestingness is inversely proportional to the length. Jeez we're moaners lol :)
jeebersjumpincryst 10 months ago
Freaking BRILLIANT.
dangerouslytalented 10 months ago
this guy is certainly the einstein of our time... he's got the hair :P hehe
dpostuk 10 months ago
is this why when i get drunk i gain super powers?
goddeh69 10 months ago 238
@goddeh69 LMAO! Must be, because I feel the same way when drunk.
pololopo23 10 months ago
@goddeh69 I thought i was the only one
barakuda1111 10 months ago
@goddeh69 no .... that is because your brain is letting some restrains from the body ( like from muscular fibers ) and also you get emotions more easly ( so in some cases you get adrenaline very easy so you go stronger )
and no .... radiation is in fact bad for the human body ... but in waaaaaay larger amounts .... this amount is not even felt ..... but the toxicity of crude oil is more harmful than the radiation.... so C14 is preferred .
hope this helps you understand drunkenness better :P
yomyssebyy2 10 months ago
@goddeh69 yes
sovakuliana 10 months ago
@goddeh69 LOL NICE
tjd07x 10 months ago
i don't get why they sell alcohol only with c-14 in america... is it becuase the crude oil is too precious?
FFSray 10 months ago
@FFSray More like too toxic .
WhichDoctor1 10 months ago
@FFSray Because alcohol [ethanol] is a by-product of crude oil refining, and may have trace amount of toxic substances, or other crude oil products left over from the refining process. So, when they distill off the ethanol from crude oil - you might get a tiny amount of benzene, methanol, propanol, etc. If they used this for drinking then the people drinking it would be poisoned by the impurities. Fermented alcohol, which has c14 has none of these problems.
FPengu1n 10 months ago
@FPengu1n thank you very much
FFSray 10 months ago