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  • So I rather have an army of 6000 wel trained pikemen against 60.000 Romans and win? That would be awesome but why are that spears so huge?

  • idiot you needed to throw all of your pilas

  • @JaSamZaljubljen I'd be very distressed if I gave a shit.

  • lol u got p00ned xD

  • My favorite campaign was when I played as Britannia and sailed my ships all the way around to Greece and took them over. Followed shortly by Mcedonia.

  • Yeah Greece and Macedon will rape you if you dont play strategically. All the other factions are pretty weak and can be dispatched with calvary no matter the numbers. The only other people I had trouble with was brittania with all their chariots.

  • @James1803 Macedon and Greece are very easy to take down if you do it right at the beginning. You just need to get their military cities first, as they will start to build up very quickly after you attack them.

    Macedon will expand very quickly, and let them do it. Get their main cities in Greece and leave their main armies, let them expand.

    Once you've got Greece it's easier to play.

    The hardest nation for me to take was Germania and Britania, but it depends where u start off ur campaign

  • @James1803 oops i didn't know you're talking about the actual battle with Macedon. I thought you're talking about the campaign.

  • the outnumbering tactic can only be properly used when surrounding an enemy unit. You attacked the strongest part of the spearmen so obviously you'll lose loads of units.

    THe actually tactic is to surround you're enemy b4 you attack. Spearmen are weak from the back so throw missiles behind them. Attack them from the flanks where they do not have strong defences, then when spearmen are turning around, surround them and kill.

  • @nuubez Hehe, I'm pretty sure he's showing outnumbering sucks cock.

  • thos romans would have won if they surrounded the pikemen and used pilum properly ... im not trying to say outnumbering is a good tactic

  • "outnumbering is not the answer"

    well then how come you have 2400 troops?

  • 4400 actually XD

  • You should put the text in black next time, its nearly unreadable in some cases...

  • man those pikeen are good!

  • lol ill just stay back and throw javelins

  • amazing they didn;t all rout en mass.

  • upgrade pikemen thats coz you lost XDDDD you suck

  • Brings back memories... The phalanx in this game wasn't very realistic since the units could all turn and face another enemy on the drop of a dime. One of my fav tactics was to place a few units in a testudo formation in front to hold the line and then pepper the enemy with missles while flanking them. The testudo makes it so that as few of your men as possible get attacked from the front while you set up a flanking manuver.

  • Unrealistic? I beg to differ - a well-drilled unit can alter their formation in any great number of ways (including a number of ways not represented in RTW) within seconds. It was not unheard of for Alexander the Great's phalanx lines to perform feint charges, flank faces and about faces with amazing precision at only a brief order from the officer commanding them.

    As to the video, I'd say it was interesting to watch that many cohorts run up against a meat grinder xD

  • cuz what you said is not true

  • ya he lost me there too.

  • where you first attacked and that is now weakened, en let the center units who begon fighting retreat and rest. And now you have them totally surrounded as a circle. Remember that i 2 units walk through each other fighting one enemy they both get tired. Instead let just one unit attack and the other in reserve so they dont walk each other in the way.

  • Some extra advice, dont just throw everything on the enemy like you did. Have some in recerver, and first surround them in a moon like form, and let your center attack the enemy, now let your left and right flank walk eneterly arround the fighting units, until they are acctually in the back of the phalanx, and strike them there, send your reinforcemance to your center

  • your telling me to remember to much stuff! lol i think its informative in a few ways

  • lol on the part with the guy and machine gun what if the guy had no ammo lol

  • I think you commented on the wrong video of mine dude :)

  • No. look at 2:46 that's what I meant

  • LOL sorry I didn't know what you were talking about...I forgot I put that thing in!

    I thought you were talking about the game!

  • Maybe you can try to place the comments in the information next time, 'cuz in the video, it's really hard to read (or is this me being a douchebag?)... Still, nice video btw ^^

  • whenever I face pikemen I just set all my legionaries to fire at will, hoping I can break them before they reach my troops.

  • roman slaughter fest :D

  • thats true

    good video but you could have at least tried on the song

  • the smaller army won only because they were stronger and had better weapons so it contrast to what say about numbers dont matter it's rly skill and experience and weapons. If those were the same skill people on both sides the larger army would win mainly because they encircled the smaller one it was on level ground. also numbers do matter as well as land.

  • OH come on. Put you in charge of a real army and you would have apsolutely no idea what to do

  • so ur saying u would want only a small nuber of well trained guys rather than a whole army of men trained just as good as teh small army. I think anyone with common sence would want more men with unimaginable skill rather than a few men with the same amount of skill as the larger army skill. in short U can train a large army as good as u can train a small army

  • I never said that, I said in real life you wouldn't know shjt about leading a real army into battle

  • what ur saying is confusing and contradicting. your thinking of balancing the quality of troops on both sides and that the side with more numbers would always win?? KageShinobiWarrior is right, if ur chosen as Imperator of all roman forces in the empire u wouldnt know wat to do.

  • Training is a necessary thing for war, and a general is needed just as much if not more, numbers obviously don't count if you fight smart. I had a situation like this, near Messana I lead the Scipii with 2500 men to fight the Spartan king with 4000 men, my main line was crippled in the first 10 minutes, so I had to do guerrilla tactics with cavalry, I had 300 Cavalry vs. 3000 Spears and barely won, in the end I had only 50 cavalry left but there were only 18 Greeks survived compared to 1500 RM.

  • i agree with you but school yard voilence(pety freindly fights) and moral issues would be in controllable

  • If you got 2 units, they got 1. Use they cheapest, weakest on on their front.. The stronger on their flanks.

    If you have only 1. Spread out your troops in a longer line than the enemy. Some will die. But the rest will encircle the enemy and start picking them off, one by 1.

  • I have one thing to say that kicks infanterys butts and more or less always wins

    Hammer and Anvil!

  • I usally put legionaries in the front line middle part and put spearmen at either sides of the front line then put veleties behind the spearmen and put archers and siege weapons behind legionaries and i put calvery on either sides of the spearmen and keep my general behind the legionaries next to the archers then i wait for them to attack me shower them with flame arrows move my calvery so they can flank them on either side and rest of troops charge the enemy head on when get close enough to me

  • even the cavalary is the most vulnerably to those spearman you shoul try archer to crush theyr number or ballista and then cavalary at last but the archers are the key ;) i think

  • Bad tactics you got there -.-''

    You must send one army in front of the enemy and then send the other back on the enemy

    ^^, --Chris

  • Yes, that's the method I use. Legionares/ infabtry in front and cavalry attacl from behind. Their spears are pointing to legionares, and sides and back are weak.

  • it would be interesting if the roman just pilum them first until they ran out then charge

  • Read Smackus Maximus RTW Guide from IGN...just use google and write there "IGN Rome Total War" and press Walkthrough buton.

  • i'd prefer bringing their numbers down with archers and slingers first

    then send in a sacrificial chariot unit or something that can disrupt the macedonian's formation

    after that send in the swordsmen

    as long as the enemy doesnt form a square with their remaining phalanx then the game is pretty much over for them

  • Its easy to kill phalanxes, even with cavalry, just pin them with some infantry and hit them from the rear flank with cavalry or infantry and they rout pretty soon, that or theyll change to pikes and get slaughtered

  • U seriously suck who the hell builds all the same unit type

  • Maybe because it is a custom match....?

  • haha .. Might wanna think a bit before u call some1 a sucker ;)

  • Macedonians! tonight we dine in hell!!!

  • tomorrow in heaven !

  • nice vid but you need way more then just cohorts. The best are what you have, atleast 4 groups of highly trained horses, prefered the guard, and 5 groups of armored archers. Keep them always in battle with high fighting enimes like Greek, egypt, brtania, etc. this way they will grow in fighting efficienty. Always keep your horses in reserve but close to the battle for A. if the attack your flanks, and or B. When they rout. NEVER CHARGE HORSES TO PHALANX. If you need more tips write me.

  • talking about unfair battles lol

  • He attacked them from every possible direction and that's why they fight for their lives which actually gives morale. If you attack from 2-3 sides they will rout very fast. Like Sun Tzu said once "Always left a path for your enemy to flee." Don't sure is the quote right but it was something like that ;). If they don't flee you lose lot of good men, but if the do rout you can kill them without loses hitting them in the back :) =).

  • macedonian army has max xp roman has no xp ....

  • macedonian army if max xp roman has no xp

  • no general would send his whole army straight at them i would send a small force to the front and flank from both sides with cavalry...simple

  • lol instead of attacking with you whole army you should have attacked with half your army and come from behind!

  • insteed of atacking phalanx with infantry u whant us to atack it with cavalry?

    why do u think they have those spears?

  • Cavalry are fast and can outmaneouvre them.

  • LOL u think having 2 whole armies against 3 uints is fair and charging face front into spearmen is just dumb

  • i was online today and i had to fight a almost all calvary army with thracian pikemen. Now the surrounded me and were attacking me without my pikes up(i was walking and didnt see them to my flank). so it was close quarters and i put my pikes down. this just wope out all of the horses.And that was the turning point of the battle. I WON!!!!

  • What about the battle of Pydna? Roman legionnaires taking out the greek phalanx.

    The front couple of ranks of soldiers didn't even try to fight, they just let the pikes get caught in their shields while they bound down for a shoving contest.

    the third and fourth ranks threw pila and due to the deaths on the greek side and the unevenness of the ground, channels opened up between the pikes. The centurions led their men down these and butchered the greeks at close range.

  • lad, u attack the right flank of a phalanx not their front right towards their pikes

  • Wow...Charging a phalanx in the front is really,really,REALLY retarded. You should've ENCIRCLED THEM.Then charged in.

  • Why did you charge directly at the pikemens' spears???? With those many troops, it's remarkably easy to outflank pikemen in phalanx position!!!

  • so your saying bring light and heavy cavaly instead of infantry??? So you can charge them right onto the spears or what???

  • You can get it from amazon for 14 bucks.

  • Those phalanxes were full gold though

  • im getting this game in a week and i need help can some1 help me i would like to know how to play before playing and people tell me stuff like: which trooper is best in a charge attack defensive and stuff like that coz even thought im a very good tactician i dont no which is better even though i can see that phalanx can stop alot of troops

  • Well, you have to plan an invasion before it commences. Like you have to get used to fighting phalanges if you go into Greece, or Cavalry if you go into Scythia.

  • How the fuck did you manage to lose all those men?

    Are you five? Or just a fucktard?

  • Oh...fuck off...this (as I said 100,000 time) is just showing what will happen if you don't use tactics.....

  • You fuck off.

    We all know what happens if we act like dicks on the battlefield. If we have this game we all fucking know.

  • I know how to play the game, kid....and I know if I had purposefully used tactics I would have destroyed them...and that wouldn't have made a better video...besides, you still would have called me a noob Lol

  • I never said you didn't! *facepalm*

    Talking to you is strangely eating away my intelligence.

    Purposely use tactics, people don't want to see idiots fail against the most positive odds, people would prefer to see an epic struggle between two vast armies in which Rome wins by a single stroke of fortune.

  • Please stop calling me an idiot because I am not. If you had read the comments it would have explained why I didn't use tactics. If I had used tactics, the video would have been a minute long. And you DID say I didn't know how to play this game. You called me an idiot, and idiots don't particularly know how to play this game, but FYI, kind sir, I am not an idiot and I also know how to play this game. Damn well in fact.

  • W/eva man, I've moved onto arguments that matter since yesterday. :|

  • Looks like you get into lots of arguments...that is accounted for by your child-like personality....

  • Trying to prolong an argument with personal insults really is the most childish thing you can do. So you have no room to talk.

    And before you say 'But you called me an idiot' don't bother, you are an idiot, and I don't give a shit. Get on with your damn life, if you have one.

  • Okay :D Lol, you really do take this personally....

  • :P

    Gute nacht!

  • u guys should try XGM mod.. seeing this crap is hilarious.

  • With all respect you has not played it tactical, you should send 1 cohord into and let the others flank them and take them in the back, now you use the strength of youre enemy there spears agains ure weak short swords , so let one take him in fornt and the rest flank and back , u can win easy with that many cohords agains so few pilums....

  • be aware that the cohorts morale level is only good. many units like chosen swordsmen can defeat one single cohort in a battle since they have excellent morale.

  • dude this only proves that if a infant should rule an army he could possibly fuck it up, but anyone with a IQ above 40 knows that all you had to do was send at least one cohort to fuck em from the rear, that probably imeddiately would've send em running for their mommas

  • lol, read the comments. It was just to show that what the Macedon phalanges could do to that amount of cohorts if they just attacked

  • lol read MY comment, that's exactly what i said, if the cohorts just rushed into the phalanx spears. but that doesnt say anything about the macedionian phalanx, your ''demonstration'' is the equivalent of sticking spears into a wall horizantally and see what happens if a bunch of people charge into the spearheads, it wouldn't say anything about the pro's and con's of the phalanx, it just says how stupid the dude is who makes the demonstration

  • yeah, but it shows the pros of using tactics and the cons of not using tactics.

  • in that case i totaly agree, this lesson is very usefull for 5 year olds who always cntrl+a and dubble right click their enemies right away in battle, thank you sir, for educating 5 year olds around the world on ''tactics''

  • you're welcome!

  • than make the movie of the cavalry i don't see it nto even on oyour account

  • he could have defeated the phalanx pikemen, all he had to do is charge one half of his army right at the macedonians, and the other half into the rear. phalanxes are weak in the rear, and flanks...

  • read the description. I was just showing the power of the macedonian phalanges, and there was no tactics involved, save for the pila-throwing at the beginning.

  • k hold shift next time with charging than you do not have pilla throwing:P

  • yea well you guys are kind of weird but i would rather have 10,000 than 100 going into a battle

  • not me i rather fight besides elites than peasants

  • i think people thought of this wrong. he wasnt meaning to win he was showing that a lot of men can be beaten by a little bit of men. NOOBS read the description

  • jeah man at least we understood it totalwarfan14

  • You have no tacticsI mean look !!

    he just jusing all he's men to fight. He has no reserves, also fresh relaxed troops

  • It isn't weird you have set their 3 battalions on all gold !

  • Ooookey all of your men !2 armies! agains 3 battalions of macedonian hoplites

    realy fair isn't it ?

  • NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOB

    I swear "outnumbering" pfft my ass !

    It's just planning everything a little flank there some cavalry holding someone there finish !!!

  • You don't even need to out number them. Just arrange your formation to attack one of their flanks.

  • Pfft you've got a lot to learn...I could beat them without using legionary cohorts or that big of a number.

  • as the brutii, all u need as an army r 2 or mor units of equites and 2 units of hastati (or watever half decent infantry) and som mercenary peltasts or creten archers for lil bit of morlae damage to the enemy.

    worked for me, didnt work for greece lol

  • if you wanna beet those Greek Phalanxes you have to use a multitude of cavalry and infantry. the infantry engage the phalanx, while the Cavalry hits then in the flank. It's a simple tactic but with a little effort and practice the enemy might not no what hit him.

  • be aware that the phalanxes are superior to the roman legions, that's why u gotta dis em abit from the front and then swing a unit of legions into their flank or better still do a pincer move. legionaires alone cant fight phalanxes for shit u got to have em grouped and try to swing around the flanks a bit more

  • What would have been even better would be if he not only surrounded them,. but set all units to fire-at-will, cause then they would mow them down without even fighting hand-to-hand.

  • 6 units of silver chrevrons mercanry hoplites + 2 units first early cohort +4 legionary cohort + 3 axuilry archers +2 legion calv = them pwange xD

    weird roman army of mine (senate gave me them and i trained em , its was julii btw in year 201 bc lol)

  • phalanx + attack from the rear = pwnage

  • lol? you could of easily killed them if you surrounded them.

  • size doest matter as long if u know how to lead your

    army to victory

  • how can u get a lot of army like that?

  • easy,go to custom battle and fill up two armies with legionary first cohorts

  • even if u had asked 1 legionares to flank...u wud hav lost less than half the men u did...it looked like the battle of thermopelaie...with invisible rocks and seas...

  • if you flanked you wouldn't have lost so many. Flank a phelanx even from one side and it'll crumble.

  • use a mic

  • lol? 4400 legionairy cohorts? Thats about 132 million men! You mean 4400 legionaires?

  • sorry,meant 4400 men FROM legionary cohorts,about 40 legionary battalions

  • no sound?

  • couldn't read the words some times due to the HUD. i look forward to the next one

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