Thanksgiving Greetings From President Obama

[crazfrance]

obama sucks!!

[illkillamofo]

if you really want to thank the troops ass pony, STOP TRYING TO CUT OUR FUCKING BUDGET YOU PIECE OF SHIT!

[safron98]

Why, don't you kiss my ass? with your fucking greetings!! we don't like you!! WHO? THE TRULY AMERICAN'S PATRIOT'S!!! YOU BELONG IN JAIL!! YOU SON OF BITCH!! WHILE YOU ARE CONSIDERING YOUR FUCKING DREAM ACT!! AND AMNESTY TO ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN'S!! WE AMERICAN'S ARE FUCKING SUFFER LIKE NEVER BEFORE!! BUT WHAT DO YOU CARE? YOU'RE NOT AMERICAN!! YOU SON OF BITCH!!

[pat52007]

Yeah Happy Thankgiving; meanwhile the corruption goes on at the Fed, in the government, and were are involved in endless war!! What's next? Obama will tax and spend the country in oblivion!! All the while shredding the Constitution...Happy Thanksgiving mister president...did you call your creepy predecessor and wish him a good one...LOL!!

[jgizzy]

So THAT'S what thanksgiving is all about -- thanks for explaining that to us, Obama, we wouldn't know what to do without your widsom!

[mullenhawkes]

Obama is the smartest President in U.S since Ab Lincoln . J F K and Bill Clinton. And have you noticed the Republicans were all responsible for destroying there leadership. Can anyone name a Democrat who has shot or destroyed the career of a Republican in such a brutal manner?

[nomosocialists]

I'm thankful that this IDIOT has not totally destroyed the US....yet!

[boots920]

I disagree you haven't seen the collapse of the US dollar first hand yet.

Really 1776 America collapsed in 1913 first year of the unconstitutional Central Bank (communism)

Notice every single challenge America faces is because no adherence to the US Constitution.

Its been almost a 100 years of a subversive agenda.

You can't fix it until the morons stop counterfeiting money.

The Gold price proves this , gold remains stable when the idiots aren't counterfeiting.

[womblefree]

I dont understand this obsession in America with the middle class, what about the working class does America have those?

[wervasdeferens]

womblefree,

We have upper,middle and poor classes.

In America, we considerd the working class to be middle class. .

That was until,the Conservatives came to power with Reagan and Thatcher(UK).

Now in the US, we have the working poor,people who work at places like anti-union(worker) Wal Mart, America's largest single employer.

The profit and wealth stays at the top, that's the conservative agenda, to have only two classes. Upper and Working poor.

[womblefree]

Yes we've had nothing but spin a bullshit since those good old days and the police are their boot boys

[allawayjared]

We don't have middle class anymore because corporations are too greedy. They send jobs to countries where exploitation is rampant the and pollution is obscene

[womblefree]

I agree with you both, most of the time i feel i live in the 51st state of the US and as someone mentioned the sun never sets on the US

[papavalium]

truth hurts, sry to relay it. Bill Clinton almost beat him, but nope Barrack did it. I didn't even mention the polls of Dick Cheneys approval rating and Joe Bidens at this time. LOLLLL Lets just say Joe Biden, if you know who he is, (VP) ratings are lower then almost every VP...lolllll

[allawayjared]

The republicans have always started spending tons of money every time they get into office, why? so it doesn't matter if any democrat gets elected, the problems are so bad we have to kiss corporate asses.

[papavalium]

Hmm I hear you, everyone spends money, and it's time to get rid of anyone who does. I don't care what politcal party.

[allawayjared]

Well, we still need to spend money sometimes, I mean the way "conservatives" spend money without raising taxes every time they get into office. For being conservative they sure do dig big holes for democrats to dig themselves out of, that is the point.

[papavalium]

1 min spent talking about Thanksgiving and 3 minutes of Obama Campaign mode. No wonder he has the worst poll ratings ever..lower then palin now. No wonder he's the first president to go under 50% approval at this time.

[HulksHeroes]

A President with the guts to take on the economy woes, HEALTH CARE, and probably next immigration and other problems this country faces....and willing to take the "political hit" to deal with them.

God, he may even tax the American public to pay for these fiasco's in Iraq and Afghanistan that the last clowns got us into and put off paying for.

Jesus, we finally have a President with courage and brains. .....something most of the posters here aren't even able to comprehend.

[allawayjared]

Why do republicans think we can go to war without raising taxes?

[ClassicFIHD]

Same reason democrats think they can pass a healthcare package without raising taxes.

[allawayjared]

Democrats never said they weren't going to raise taxes. What are you talking about? If you're going to get involved in some big spending, you're gonna have to tax the rich. I sure am glad George W. Bush went to war to protect my dilapidated trailer park, wait, he was probably protecting the rich people factories and stuff.

[ClassicFIHD]

Wake up, you could tax all the people making over 150K and you still could not cover all this idiotic spendind. Sheesh, like you really think the dempcrats would tell you the truth if they knew it would kill the Bill? FYI, Bush is not President.

[ClassicFIHD]

To think taxing the rich is a solution, it's not. Even if you tax them all you would still come short. You tax them too much they will leave the counrty. If they are business owners employees will lose. How about this. Obama said there is enought waste in the government to pay for half the healthcare bill. How about we kill the bill and go after that so-called waste Obama is talking about.

[allawayjared]

If rich people don't want to pay taxes, I want them to leave the country. We will rebuild, we don't need them. You can't get rich without sending a semi truck down a road, you can't get a road without paying taxes. The richer you are, the more you use the road, the more taxes you have to pay.

[ClassicFIHD]

I never said rich people don't want to pay taxes did I? Maybe they just don't want to paid their UNFAIR share. No, I'm sorry, but the richer you are you don't use the road anymore the moderate income people, you just use it it a nicer car. And If I got to college for 12 year to get a PhD, why should I be taxed at a higher rate then a lazy school dropout guy working stocking shelves? And how is owing taxes like useing a road?

[allawayjared]

Part of the reason rich people are rich is because they are some way involved in the manufacture of some product. That product cannot get from the manufacturer to the vendor without going down the road in a semi truck. That road would not be there without taxes. Rich people are rich because they sell a lot of products, the more products you sell, the more responsible you are for the semi trucks moving down the tax funded road.

[ClassicFIHD]

What? It's the semi truck drive and the semi truck owner and the semi truck company that drives down the road. The rich company owner pays the semi truck company a fee. A big rich company owner and the small business owner pays the same per-pound fee to the truck company. The roads get paid for by fuel taxes, paid for by the trucking company. Your comparison to using a road to rich people it total nonsense.

[allawayjared]

That is just one of many things paid for by tax dollars that rich people need to be rich. The road gets used for more than just the product being delivered from manufacturer to vendor, there is also customer to vendor, there is also the cop who busts the guy holding up the 7-11, the judge, the courthouse, there is contract enforcement, patents, if a company wants an educated employee - tax funded schools, you can't get rich without using the commons.

[ClassicFIHD]

You still don't make any valit point that every day operations are needed to be paid for by unfairly taxes for, keyword "unfairly". If a company wants to educate employees it to better bottom like profits, nothing to do with taxes. FYI, I do education for company employees. Schools? are you saying rich people use public schools more like they use roads more? FYI, Rich people don't use public schools yet they pay for them with property taxes. You are all over the place making no sense.

[allawayjared]

What part of that didn't make sense. If you have a contract with someone, and you have a problem you take them to court, the court and judge were paid for with tax dollars. The judges education was paid for with tax dollars. If you have a patent and find someone infringing on it, you take them to court, its all tax funded. I think schools provide a basic level of education that all employers benefit from, I too educate people at my company, I'm glad they can already read though.

[ClassicFIHD]

NO, it is NOT all paid for by taxes but your point is that rich people use them more so they should pay more taxes, which I proved with road it totally false. And how is a company educating thier employees paid for by taxes? And NO, the judges education was not paid for by taxes. He paid for his own education then got a job as a Attorney, then moved up the ranks until he was appointed as a Judge.

Like I said, you are all over the place.

[allawayjared]

As of yet you haven't proven anything, it is all hearsay. You say that none of this stuff is paid for by taxes, prove it. The judge went to public elementary, public middle, and public high school, The tax funded school is where he developed a curiosity for learning that subsequently lead to his college enrollment. I'm not saying businesses training their employees is taxes, but it helps that they already know how to read write and do basic math because of public school.

[ClassicFIHD]

Again all over the place. Taxes for basis eduaction is standard. You don't go from High School to being a Judge. Next you'll say living in you house is becasue of taxes. What is "training their employees is taxes"?

[allawayjared]

I am not all over the place, I would appreciate if you stopped accusing me of that. I am simply listing the tax funded tools that rich people use. Roads, Schools, Courthouses, patents, contracts. Rich people need these things. If a rich makes a product and wants to deliver it to the vendor on the other side of town, but there is a river in between, what do we do? Tax funded bridge.

[allawayjared]

When a business trains their employees, that is not taxes, but, when a business trains an employee using a powerpoint with words written on it, the employee is able to read those words, because they went to tax funded school.

[ClassicFIHD]

Like I said, YOU ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. You talk about standard taxes for standard basic education that is a NON-ISSUE. BUT, you still have not answered my original question. So I will ask again, how is it fair to unfairly tax the rich for standard basic education that EVERYONE gets? And agian, what if the child DID NOT go to a tax funded school, but a private school? Then he became a Attorney then a Judge ALL WITHOUT using tax dollars. And again, roads are paid for by gas purchases.

[ClassicFIHD]

Patents, contracts, and training employees are not paid fo with taxes. FYI, Couthouses and Judge in the manors you describe are paid for by court costs typically by the loser of the case. Even when you fight a traffic ticket and you lose you pay court costs.

[allawayjared]

Do you speak English as a second language? I never said a company training its employees is paid for by taxes. I said companies like to hire people who have made it through elementary school because they don't have to constantly worry about teaching them the simple stuff.

[ClassicFIHD]

The joke it you keep talking about basic education as if it's something special. A company has no problem hiring prople with basic education. Even at minimum wages. But I'm still waiting for an answer to why you feel rich people should be unfairly taxes.

[allawayjared]

You have a point when you say private school, but not everyone can afford private school. Just because you are the child of poor people doesn't mean you should be denied access to education. I don't think roads are paid for entirely by gas tax, I don't think courthouses are funded entirely by monetary penalties and fees.

[ClassicFIHD]

Still off topic I see. So let's try again. Why should someone who can afford to sent their kids to a non-tax payed for school, but who still pay for public schools through property taxes, why you feel they should he unfairly taxed unproportionally to you and I. Fact is they are paying for public schools and don't even use them.

[allawayjared]

depends on your definition of "unfairly". If someone sends their kid to private school good for them, if you're rich you still have to have a portion of your money go towards supporting the commons in some way. We live in a democracy, we all agreed we would get together and pay for things like roads and bridges, rich people use them more than poor people, they should have to pay more toward their construction and maintenance.

[ClassicFIHD]

Where do you think rich people don't already pay for the roads more? If they drive more they buy more gas and the gas taxes pay for the roads. It they oun a company and they ship tons and tons of goods all over the counrty they pay the trucking company the going rate, then the trucking company buys gas and the gas taxes pay for the roads. That whats called fair. So they they are already paying more for the roads. Now you want them to pay a higher % of income taxes for the healthcare bill.

[allawayjared]

Like I said before this is just an example, rich people use a lot of things that are basically just sucking taxes. Corn producers get subsidies, Microsoft gets to slap people with huge lawsuits for copying them, Oil companies get to use the public airwaves to spread misinformation regarding alternative fuels, corporations build bombs, they rebuild countries, that is all tax dollars. They use our taxes more, they should pay more taxes.

[ClassicFIHD]

How many rich Corn producers are there? FYI subsidies are a government control system to regulate the market. Microsoft sues with it's own money. What misinformation are they giving about alternative fuels? What does the government hiring corporations have to go with rich people paying tases unfairly? And the goverment places to have bombs made using tax payer money, what does that have to do with rich people? Still all over the place I see.

[allawayjared]

I can think of two people who are rich off corn, The CEOs of Coke and Pepsi. When Microsoft Sues with "its own money" it does so in courthouses paid for by taxes using systems maintained by taxes. Oil companies have been suppressing technology intentionally so we have to buy their obsolete product. Rich people build bombs, The guy in charge of Halliburton, KBR, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, etc. Rich people benefiting off of tax dollars.

[ClassicFIHD]

So when a poor man sues don't they use the same court? Fact is poor and middle means people uses courts way more than rich people.

So when did the CEO's of Coke and Pepsi become corn PRODUCERS?

What obsolete products?

How is the guy in charge of all those companies benefiting from taxes? You suggesting the government SHOULD NOT buy products? And again, what does that have to do with making them pay higher taxes?

[allawayjared]

What the hell is a poor man going to sue for? Poor people don't have patents to protect. Look at the first ingredient in Coke and Pepsi: High Fructose Corn Syrup, cheap corn means its cheap for them to make soda, then they turn around and jack the price up. Do you know what those companies do? They build war machines, wars are usually funded by taxes.

[ClassicFIHD]

I still don't see link to the CEO's paying an unfair ratio or taxes because of corn.

Also you said "CORN PRODUCERS"

AND, name one company that related to the price of cone that build war machings.

AND why should the CEO of Raytheon pay a higher % of his income in taxes that the Janitor that works at Raytheon? In you twisted link to doesnt the Janitor at Raytheon get paid with taxpayer's money?

Try just a little to stay on topic.

[allawayjared]

okay, I said corn producers get subsidies, those subsidies affect things farther down the chain, it is not a huge leap in logic. The CEO should pay more taxes because he uses more of the commons.

[ClassicFIHD]

The CEO pay more already on his income taxes, he is already in a higher tax bracket so he pay more alreadt there. if he buy more costly product he pays more is sales tax. So a rich person ALREADY pays more in taxes than I do why should he pay MORE that he is already unfairly paying now for being in a higher tax bracket? Corn or anything about corm has NOTHING to do with an individuals taxes.

Like I said, the rich guy already pays more taxes on commons because he buys more of them.

[allawayjared]

Okay, if they are paying more, good, I'm glad, problem fixed.

[ClassicFIHD]

Man you missed the whole point.

No the problem is not fixed because Obozo whats them to pay more in income tax than the unfair higher rate they are already paying now.

[allawayjared]

I think we should raise taxes on the super rich. I do not care what you think. look at the L curve.

[ClassicFIHD]

"F" the L curve. It's stupid and pure socialism. Why should someone work hard so idiots like you support taking what they earned away to give to those that's didn't work hard. Unless of course YOU are one of those lazy freeloaders.

[allawayjared]

No my wife and I both worked our ass off to pay for college and now we have careers that we are working very hard in.

[ClassicFIHD]

Glad to hear it. So when Obozo decide you are making too much and he taxes your income at 55%, don't bitch becasue you clear have no problem with taxing the rich. Next they will tax the well off, then they will tax the upper middle, and just be happen when ti happens to you becauce you're all for unfair taxes related to income.

[allawayjared]

You appear to be losing patience and resorting to logical fallacies. Are we engaging in an honest debate or are we just name calling and making forecasts based on insufficient data? I never said I am in favor of "unfair" taxes. I said I think people who use the commons more should pay more.

[ClassicFIHD]

Logical? You have yet to say one thing logical. I'm still waiting for the debate part. I have yet to see you state one thing ,commons of anything else, that the rich use more and don't pay for by using more of it. If they use the raods more they buy more gas and pay for highway taxes built into the gas price. The use more electric, they pay more in energy taxes by using egergy more. Maybe you are just confused between INCOME tax as opposed to other taxes. All COMMONS have built-in taxes.

[ClassicFIHD]

And by "commons" I'm guessing you're talking about consumer goods. So If I by a car for $30,000 and a rich guy buys a car for $90,000 the rich guy is already paying 3 time more in the sales taxes on it I am, as is the same with anything he buys. But again, what does that have to do with him paying more in Federal Income Taxes than the higher rate he is already paying now?

[allawayjared]

no when I say "commons" I mean roads, bridges, cops, judges, public services, power lines, anything that is paid for by taxes and can be used by a businessman. When a business man uses the commons he benefits from it by getting money, he is entitled to a huge chunk of the money because that is what the commons is there for, people to be "successful" but he also has to give a little bit back so when he dies the next business man has a well maintained road to drive down.

[ClassicFIHD]

Again all wrong. Again how do they use roads, bridges, and public services more? Do they drive more? And if he uses commons more he alreadly pays for them. And when do rich people use cops and judges more than criminals? And why do you keep bringing up judges, since the loser of the court case pays for court costs, even in a lawsuit?

FYI, The sucessful business man isn'tentitled to anything he didn't work hard for and earn.

[allawayjared]

You didn't know what the word "commons" meant, so I explained the definition of "commons" to you, now you know.

[ClassicFIHD]

What? Did you miss my response to your stupid logic about road, bridges, courts, etc.?

[allawayjared]

You said: And by "commons" I'm guessing you're talking about consumer goods.

when I say "commons" I am not talking about consumer goods.

[ClassicFIHD]

And then said "Again all wrong. Again ho do they use roads, bridges........". I resonded to you clarification of what "common" meant.

FYI, the meaning of "commons" only means roads, bridges, courts etc. to you.

[papavalium]

ROFL 165 views...lmao Obama is a joke, is this a campaign speech or Thanksgiving comments to America. WTF is he doing? And what is with the camera changes, did he gaff this speech up that many times that they couldn't get one cut??????

[WarDogLRS]

If Obama thinks he can create jobs then I got some Ocean front property in Afghanistan. The only thing Government can create is Fines fee's a Penalties. Yea Baby bring in the clown

[HulksHeroes]

Considering the doomsday repukes control the majority of small businesses and large businesses in this country, it's going to take a miracle to get those profit hungry cowards to hire anyone other than at "illegal alien wages"...if at all.

It's a nation divided, under beck...with and absence of brain and the middle class struggling to stay alive in this country.

Nation of morons.

[donohuee]

I wonder what hate comments Obama will receive by giving Thanksgiving greetings.

[bigc028282]

I give thanks to the hacker/inside guy who released the 200+ emails that PROVE THE IMF/U.N. "CLIMATE CHANGE" SCAM; that Obuma will sign the "treaty" for in Dec.

Not everyone hates everything this CHANGE of face does. I just wish he had kept the promises he made to end the wars, P-Act, corporate welfare, time to read bills, torture prisons, lobbyist/corporate money and influence, and the rest. Instead we got

HOPE in one hand, BUSH in the other;

in the form of escalations of all the Bush BS.

[papavalium]

Wow you love Obama, and probably didn't even listen to the message?

What Thanksgiving message did he give? Are you kidding me, I forgot what he was talking about when he started drifting off....I mean serious, no one buys this crap anymore. Like Climategate now, everything is a fraud, everything...and you have Obama....speaking for about a min or so, then you have Bush who shows up in Iraq for Thanksgiving..i rest my case.

[boots920]

American taxpayers have to kick out (Impeach) every single politician that's not following the rule of law.

Look at the voting record of these morons to get the list.

Start with Obama - ineligible to hold office

I don't believe you can wait until the next election looks like bright boy is going to send more troops to the sandbox to get slaughtered History Repeats (Stalingrad)