It takes no skill to insult someone. It takes bravery to come out in the open and declare your beliefs and put your own life at risk fighting for your beliefs.
Will any white person who insulted Mandela while on his sick bed be man enough to spend 27 years of their own life in prison in fight of their own beliefs?
I'm a white girl. The ANC is fucking our country up.
I presently have no hope that the majority of my white race are brave enough to fight for a better government.
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I have 3 very important questions to ask you: 1.)Are you a fucking syndrome? 2.)Are you fucked in the cerebellum? 3.)Do you have something inside your head that needs to be removed?
If i were you I would not drink alcohol sonny cause it might get rid of that 1 brain cell you still have.
Listen up you prick, mandela is going to die whatever happens, we all are! You need to educate yourself on mandela and who he really is. He is a puppet of the white Europen masters who own him and have done so for decades. He is a created myth sonny, used to bring your country to where it is today, via that white arsehole De Klerk. Grow up and grow some cajones you little wannabe news reporter. You wouldn't know truth if it shit on your doorstep!
I haven't seen all your videos but I have the feeling and from what I've seen that you are a sensible person. I do believe that all white people are socialized racists but that it is also a matter of degrees. I feel that you are trying to be as fair as you can are actually in active conflict with your deeply ingrained racial attitudes which manifests itself by trying to be level headed and even handed. For that I like you. I am writing you from America. I am not from SA but u are quite known.
What a poes! I think mandela is a poes also. I have this opinion yet I am not white. The boer also fought for what they believe in, hell I wish they still had the power. The country was much better. Your message is so full of aggression and violence then you say 'Peace, out!'. Man!!!!
What a poes! I think mandela is a poes also. I have this opinion yet I am not white. The boer also fought for what they believe in, hell I wish they still had the power. The country was much better. Your meviolence then you say 'Peace, out!'. Man!!!!
" oppressed " they would of been worst off without the whites building developing S. Africa. Even under apartheid north Africans were crossing the border tying to sneak in the country. Let them try slaughter whites they'll regret it when armies from Europe, US come in n fucking take over again.
by the way, it's March and Mandela is still alive. "Destroying the image of white SA's?" lol- are you serious? i'm quite surprised the Afrikaans didn't high tail it out of SA years ago. I would frankly be ashamed to inhabit a country that my ancestors stole.
Look I am not South African. I am white Australian but I have made South African friends, both here in london where I live and back in SA.
But I know what's going on down there and I know about the white genocide.
Are you trying to say you idiot (the speaker) that is OK to murder and rape people because of past suppression? Wow, how childish and stupid is that? There is an annilihation of a race going on but everyone is looking the other way. You bring shame to your race.
Louis Farrakhan fights for what he believes in, that being the eventual extinction of all European People.
So call me what you want, but I say FUCK NELSON MANDELA, AND I HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE. I hope it's documented as being painful and misery-filled. In fact, I hope there is video of him bleeding out, with all of his African and Jewish pals at his bedside.
And as much as I support and love Afrikaner culture, I hope the blacks begin fucking you up. You need a wake up call.
@UllrPallson Your not a White South African, stay out of it. go and comment on Fox News where WHITE Americans and African Americans are doing racist to each other!
@UllrPallson What a good comment.... Nelson Mandela Can suck my dick ! Fuck him he can eat my shit. ! BTW.... HOW DOES BLACK PEOPLE DO A PREGNANCY TEST? Push a 20cm banana in her dirty pussy and wait 10min after the 10min pull out slowly if its eaten half way..... a MONKEY is on its way! LOL
IMO SA politics have to be viewed from a geopolitical point of view pretty much like the rest of the continent.
Its naive to imagine Mandela simply came out of his hut with revolutionary ideas, was put in prison , sang his songs and ideals, a great regime was put in place. End of story.
No...Its more like foreign interests picking one side , propping him up at the expense of most SAfricans and screwing internal African politics.
International pressure destroyed Apartheid not mandela
To all you idiots saying that Mandela was the reason for why South Africa is the way it is (calling him a terrorist and such), you are all ignorant as fuck. Mandela was no saint, that much is clear. But he fought against a system of government that was wrong. Not only that, he is one of the few African leaders that stepped down after his term in office, leaving a strong South Africa to build upon. It is in no way his fault that Mbeki and Zuma fucked the country over.
wow, so many comments by people claiming Rendier attracts Nazis and so on. Isn't it great to have so many people are so wise and that are able to know why many ppl watched rendier's vids. I watched it because he wasn't always a back-stabbing-attention seeking pagent queen who only gives a shit about youtube ratings. I'm not a nazi, but i'm not blind or some two-bit traitor either.
saying bad things about blacks won't get views, and might cause ur death, but u are a coward to say th least!
@ElephantForest Man, just don't give me that non-sense. I have lived in many countries where people co-live and there are no (big) racial problems.
You guys(whites and blacks) seem to be stuck in that shithole mentality where you wanna blame others. Why don't you guys drop all your racist laws and BEE's and shit and start building a 1st world country where everyone can live in (relative) peace?
@8deSPOOK Don't give me that bullshit non-sense about that I have been brainwashed, cos I'm ONLY stating facts and not opinions, so brainwashing is out of the order.
Fact is that in South Africa is still very racist.
Fact is also that in The Netherlands, this black/white problem is nonexistent.
All I asked is why they still are so backwards in SA and why they don't take an example of other countries like NL where this black/white problem doesn't exist.
@renoxwolf That's simple. The Netherlands has white people of European culture in power. South Africa has black people of tribal culture in power.
The differences in culture and IQ pretty much explain why one place is more civilized that the other. (PS: average IQ differences between white and black people are a no-brainer for anyone who understands evolution by natural selection, while looking up the statistics. That's still no excuse for behaving badly towards our fellow humans, though).
@joelloike Why is BEE still in place though? Don't South Africans get born under equal circumstances now? Doesn't a black guy that goes to university now have fairly the same opportunities as a white guy?
There is a time where you have to draw a limit. For example: If you were born after apartheid than you can't benefit from "positive discrimination". This way, over time, BEE and AA can be phased out.
i see your point and i get it fully , however if your parents had no money because they couldnt work how cpuld they send you to a good school , how could you get an education ?, BEE should only be around for ten more years , till the adults who went through the hard times have passed away , thats what i think and i respect your view
@joelloike Hey. I'm glad we agree on something and I totally do respect the "black view" and understand that they had to be helped in the past with things like BEE. I too agree that BEE should be phased out over time. I understood from R3ndi3r that blacks are allowed to study for free (not sure if its true?), so if that's so, then BEE could be phased out for younger people I think.
I also get R3ndi3r's frustration: Imagine getting born, studying and then because of the past, not getting a job...
@researchsiempre The land holdings of the Afrikaaner people didn't change drastically during the entire period of Apartheid. So this statement is just blatant falsification.
@renoxwolf It's never going to change, until both Leftistm and Liberalism are shown in their true light.
The political left both exalts and degrades non-whites. They praise their "cultural value" and "spiritual power" while at the same time enacting policies which indicate their belief that non-whites are inherently in need of uplifting and empowerment.
This world will not heal until multiculturalism is abolished and people are able to succeed or fail on their own collective racial merits.
Let me get this straight...You are ashamed to call yourself a white south african because white south arficans are saying bad things about a leader who indirectly facilitates the genocide of your very own people. You are a sell out plain and simple and should be thrown to the dogs.
(continues) lastly, there's probably no person in the entire world who hates Blacks - or anybody else - simply because they LOOK in a certain way. The question of Blacks is not a question of how they look like, but a question of what they do and how they choose to run their society practically everywhere. Everything else like racial slurs is just a consequence of being angry. I mean, you yourself said anti-White crime and discrimination was rampant, so is the N word somehow worse than rape?
@Scherzo7 You basically sum up these black apologist liberals, they make a huge deal about whites using a certain offensive word and then make apologies for the disproportionate amount of rapes and murders commited by blacks.
(post continues) Don't you think then that someone who had their loved one or relative raped or killed by a Black is somewhat justified in hating them? Judging by crime stats, there are a lot of White people who suffered in that way, maybe including folks who ran that blog. Maybe some holier-than-though liberals would have had the power to forgive murder and rape. Myself, I can honestly say I couldn't have.
hey rendier, I respect your position, since you obviously know more about South Africa than I do. I would like to continue getting your perspective on things, but there's one bit I can't understand about this 'white trash' talk. It was you who brought our attention to the fact that there are numerous violent crimes where Whites are targeted for murder, rape, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but White on Black crimes in SA aren't as frequent to put it mildly. (post continues above)
Ren sold his soul to the jew for a fancy studio, and is now blocking his white trash supporters. No death threats from me but if I see the Kaffirs chasing you down, don't run past me I'll trip you up for you black friends to play with.
I hope the old bugger dies soon, so South Africa can get on with the future. When he became president, the killing of whites became common place, especially among the farming community. His legacy is one of intellerance and revenge, his words mask his intentions. According Zuma - if you vote for the ANC you get a ticket to Heaven, so old Nelson should not worry...lol.
very well said, rendier. i knew i subscribed to you for a reason. i always sense that you were just a pissed off white south african and not a racist. personally i dont really admire mandela, however im not a south african so my feelings on him are meaningless. all i know is i hate george bush with a passion but i would never dream of insulting him on his death bed, or anyone eles for that matter.
Mandela was a terrorist, the irony of watching Rendier bitching about how he respects the man who was the catalyst for the destruction of the once great SA is quite humorous.
If you can learn anything from Mandela,complaining in the media won't change things. Grab a gun, create a collective and establish your own land.
@ForImperium yes, yes, that means the jews in warsaw were terrorist, the jews in 1939 palestine were terrorist, the pilgrims were terroist, the french resistance were terrorist, the americans in the alamo were terrorist, the brits in the falklands were terrorist, infact anyone who has ever fought for anything is a terrorist. remember mandela saved whites when he came out of prison. if it was up to the rest of the anc, SA would look worst then zimbabwe right now. mandela was white SA's puppet!
Mandela later admitted that the ANC, in its struggle against apartheid, also violated human rights, sharply criticising those in his own party who attempted to remove statements supporting this fact from the reports of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
He characterized this as constituting terrorism, particularly the Church Street bombing. Why do you think he was sent to jail in the first place?
The fact remains that blacks and whites would have been better off under minority rule.
@ForImperium better to die on your feet then live on your knees. btw, mandela wouldnt be better off under minority rule and im sure millions of other africans who can now create better lives for themselves wouldnt be better off either.
If by living you mean, fighting for survival in decrepit cities where violence is rampant, basic utilities like water and electricity are unreliable or non existent. Besides, under Apartheid blacks lived in segregated communities, had jobs in SA industry that actually existed, it was regarded as a 1st world nation, had nuclear energy, people weren't mugged or carjacked on highways. The nation has gone to shit, 30% aids rate, some of the worst health systems even for Africa, it's a disaster.
@ForImperium by living i mean being able to choose your their destiny and future and not have it dictated to them by people of thought of them as no better then a caged monkey at a zoo. under apartheid those very same people your talking about were considered dirt by the same people who's job it was to look out for their safty. they had no vote, no rights and no prospects or possiblitities to progess as a nation or as a people. when china finally invades the west your'll see what it's like.
You can’t even type in coherent English, I really feel this is a waste of my time. Reading a fucking book, preferably a primary source then make conclusions independently. Don’t ask me to “enlighten you”, do it yourself. You’re entire views are based off post apartheid ANC propaganda and have no basis in history nor fact. Your statement regarding China further reflects your complete rejection of any awareness of geopolitics. PM me if you really can’t learn independently.
@ForImperium wow, somebody really should look up the word SARCASM in the dictionary. your ignorant ass couldnt enlighten a match box with a fucking lighter! btw, the ONLY info i get on the anc is from rendier videos and the bbc....lol.
@ForImperium wow i never thought you'd take a figure of speech so literally but seeing as you have. Word Origin & History: enlighten: late 14c. (O.E. had inlihtan ), "to remove the dimness or blindness (usually figurative) from one's eyes or heart," from en- + lighten......nothing to do with light huh? also i never said i get ALL my info from youtube, i said i get my info about the ANC from and anti ANC white african, so the idea that im some sort of ANC spokesman or supporter is hilarious!
@slimithy12 pray tell just exactly how did mandela save the whites when he came out of prison? Bear in mind the SA defence force and police force was, until 2000, predominantly white. So mandela really had no choice but to make no decisions as president or achieve anything at all as a statesman , because if he did think of revenge, there would have been a massacre of the black south africans if they tried anything. Interestingly it is after 2000 Mugabe started his shit. Coincidence?
well this is my view so please dont jump down my throat: madela stopped a major war from happening. there are around 10 million whites and around 40 million blacks. although the whites had more and better weapons the blacks still were armed too. also the outside world would of backed the blacks if a full scale war broke out. the moral high ground was with them all the way, white south africa was already black listed. so i think the whites would have lost a war and maybe their home land too.
@slimithy12 That war was needed, to secure a home land. If we hanged mandela and stood and fought like men, our women and children might not be murdered and raped every day. We gained fuck all from not fighting.
@8deSPOOK i agree, i personally think the hate between whites and blacks in south africa is so deep rooted that they should of just fought it out. all this pretending to be friends is bullshit. fuck mandela, he served absolutly no purpose. the blacks should of kicked all the racist whites out while they had the support of the world behind them. now they have lost the support, the moral high ground and will never get their land back from their racist suppressors. ahh well....
Dont have any criticism of Mandela, but did the ANC really have to "necklace" so many poor africans on the way to power. I dont see how murdering your own people whilst fighting for black self determination was necessary?
KAK! It's going to happen ANYWAY due to the nature of the beast. Just because a man is dying your opinion of him changes? We will all die some time, no one has managed to live indefinitly. Either you had the wrong opinion in the first place or you are wimping out!
@Afrostyle786 Fuck off you, you filthy coon. How the fuck would you know what the people want or need for that matter ? They are so stupid they don't even know them selves .Youre just a little half cast piece of shit from USA. Real Africans wouldn't give you the time of day, a plastic pretend African like yourself, is fucking pathetic.
BTW unblack me sorry unblock me you fucking foul mouthed half shit.
Dude, so because some white South Africans are insulting this guy, all white South Africans need to worry about being massacred by blacks. This kind of reminds me of what used to go on with jews in Europe, one jew does something stupid, and than mobs come and kill dozens of jews. If I were in that country, I'd be working day and night to get the fuck out and move someplace civilized where I don't need to worry about being massacred.
@lucamansan This has nothing to do with the jews in europe. Do you see the officials and the military going up in arms against you. No! Just random illegals and very low class blacks that never got land because more then 90% of the land is owned by whites. This is not from em but from a news in america article I read. I am sure most of those land owning whites and their families have the money to get the fuck out but being only 1/10th of the population and owning that much land is just not right
@Afrostyle786 Not all white South Africans are rich, in fact, most are NOT rich, they are middle class, a very small percentage of whites in South Africa are wealthy and/or landowners. There are also large numbers of poor whites in South Africa, who can't even leave the country because they have no money, and only have South African citizenship. Also, whether it's mobs or just criminals, fully 1% of white South Africans have been murdered by black criminals since the end of apartheid.
@lucamansan What you think you can just make your own nation by dividing up south africa? That will never happen but I would sure love to see you try.
@Afrostyle786 Don't consider 8deSPOOK's to heart as he's another disgruntle guy and is quite in a confuse state. We welcome views of our far away cousins who were forecefully carried to the other side of the Atlantic. We know that though you guys may not fully understand current African complexity. You'll always be treated as a brother and I encourgae you to come and visit. You can learn alot in the US by joining African diaspora and dialoguing with them.
@ElephantForest Thanks! Yes we were taken away. First it was the arab slave trade. Then it was the white slave trade. Then when our numbers were low. They colonized us for at least 150 years. While they colonized Africa they were slaving us on the other side of the sea for 400 years. People lived and died under the lash. Arabs kept up the slave trade for 12 centuries. Up till the 1960s. I am glad the Zulu fought the whites. To me no arab or white group should be living in sub saharan africa.
@Afrostyle786. Now I will disagree with you on some issues and side with realtimer. I wouldn't see any problem with white SA like realtimer who have understood as a minority,it's by putting hand with the majority to move forward. I would have a serious problem with those like dooming boom or 8despook, which if it were for me, those two are not africans. Now coming to the slave trade and current situation, that's where u may need to learn more with respect to modern africa
@pathologyex Sure knock yourself out. Do what ever the hell you want. Only weak africans go over to europe. Those that can't make it in africa go over there.
@ElephantForest The arabs and their converts that did make it to west africa took slaves and they were never heard of again. All of them were killed eventually. They would rape the woman then kill the baby. They would castrate the men. In fact you could look to sudan and see how the SPLA are fighting the arabs/arab converts to the north.
@Afrostyle786 I have the chance to have travel around africa and in Europe. We don't have an issue on slavery with the arab north and u wouldn't hear a sub-saharan countries attacking a north afrian one on this. We've moved past that stage because we understand in those days where kingdoms and tribe existed instead of countries today, wars were fought and losers made slaves and that we would have done the same if we had horses, bow & arrow during that stage
@Afrostyle786 Now as for slave trade to the americas, Fos as much as we blamethose european countries, we can't ignore it takes two to tango and that our own tribal chiefs actively took part by attacking other villages, capturing men in exchange for rum & guns. In some respect we share part of the blame for u being there & I think the African Union should issue an apology for our role and I know one day it will. However we need to move forward as we've still lagging behind others continents
@Afrostyle786 These days,it's all about moving forward and evrybody who can bring his own contribution is welcomed because we've always been diversed. However we have our history and icons including Mandela, kenyatta, Nkrumah,Lumumba and many who sacrifice their lives for freedom. Cheap attacks on them is an attack on us and this is only going to cause insecurity around. It's preferable for those who hate our icons to keep it to themselves than voicing it out!
You said "I ask those white farmers on expropriated land to hand it as soon as possible to avoid bloodshed" Farmers are being murdered on all land, expropriated or not. You brothers are terrorizing the farming community, the very people who provide them with food security. This combined with the very small taxpool being discriminated against is a recipe for disaster. But you and your politians are too blind to see this.
@rrealtimer i would support the overthrow of Mugabe and it's a shame that white-zimbabweans have been barred from politics. Those who are ready to work hand in hand have all my respect and the banning of white-zim who want to better Zim can't beencourage.
Stop using the internet, stop going to the doctor, stop watching tv, stop driving, stop flying, stop reading, stop writing, stop using words like educated. We brought all of that here. Why don't you go back to the way you were? That vastly superior thing you call african culture. You love all the benefits of western culture but you hate westerners. Ironic don't you think?
@Dooringboom I have tried without success to bring you to moderation withour success. I found common ground accepting with you that Moeletsi Mbeki is a good leader than Zuma/Malemma but you're only desire is to have a white state in southern africa. As such there's little I can do but to encourage you to leave and now u've gone to a white/black line. You don't know the complexity of the Zim situation in which UK paid subsidies for a gradual return of the land but stop when brown came to power
@Dooringboom. It's not complicated Dooring Boom, it isn't and many have taken the easy option out and we clearly wish them well. BUT if you decide to stay and you think your cultural difference makes u unique( and indeed u are unique in Africa) to the point separation is the better option, then those that don't feel confortable can leave. I won't wan to live in Iran because of sharia law, if u can't stand the ANC, then do same and let pragmatic people like rrealtimer join hands to better things
@ElephantForest I do get sick with SOME white SA. We have white communities all through out Africa and only in SA are they so unhappy. And many white Africans (non SA) like in Kenya see him as a icon. We have indian and chinese communities, why aren't they afraid their cultures may disappear? why aren't they treating mandela as a terrorist. Why are some white sheep in SA so problematic. they haven't understood like others white african communities that only in unity we move forward! peace
The only reason why there are more of you is because your people have no restraint, they breed like rabbits. That is also the reason poverty is increasing. White people have fewer children and put all their resources into those few children, so that they may have a better life then them. Blacks on the other hand, have many children. So their resources are spread thin, dooming the children to the same life as their parents.
@Dooringboom Don't worry Dooring that's changing with the educated masses the child/family is redducing. Now that's your choice to do have less kids but anyway, we're not as many as the indians and the chinese though Africa far bigger than both countries. So there may still be some space for more. Listen before your forefathers came to my land, Africa existed and didn't ask for help so stop thinking u're the solution to Africa !
Are those other minorities being murdered on their farms?
Are they last on the list when it comes to BEE? Is their history being wiped out and the places they built being renamed to those of terrorists? We are the only white tribe in Africa, as you said before. We have as much right to be here as you. We deserve a land of our own. Then you and your brotehrs can break down the things that we built. We will build new things in our country.
@Dooringboom Exactly because the land reform is very slow and some white farmers don't want to let go of those lands. i condem in the most strongest language those crimes but I ask those white farmers on expropriated land to hand it as soon as possible to avoid bloodshed. A people thrown from their land will never have peace untill the regain it. Some white farmers have to learn this but unfortunately they do so at the expense of their lives
You refuse to be ruled by the whites who brought you civilization, but I must submit to be ruled by sub-saharan blacks who have an average IQ of 70 and never constructed a building higher than two stories.
@Dooringboom Ofcourse I condem Mugabe for being stupid to drive a group that had the experience to feed the nation because UK couldn't keep its promise and for what else happened. Thank you after teasing u a bit, you've shown your real colours, blacks with IQ of 70, can't build more than 2 floors, stupid dumb. This is why you want a state as blacks as too stupid to rule your people. Then you have a difficult equation to solve my friend, a very difficult one indeed
Why hasn't NM spoken out against Malema? Why hasn't he spoken out against Mugabe. What about all his friends who are the worst human rights abusers. His best chums are dictators. Why hasn't he apologised to the families of civilians that he killed? The whites were forced to do so at the TRC, why not him? He has never condemned any of the horrible things that have happened in South Africa, think about it! He is just a poster boy for the communists.
@Dooringboom You're asking a retired old man wanting to live his last day in peace to re-enter politics and comdem malemma. This should have been the job of mbeki, zuma and the younger generation. NM knows well the complexity in african politics and as well as the help he had from Mugabe during those aprtheid days. Listen dude, there's what is good/bad and there geopolitics, Why would US back african dictators in the past to fight communist russia, u see my point, don't mix things up!
Malema has been around for a couple of years, he didn't just pop up recently.
NM had help from Mugabe, so he doesn't say a word when Mugabe forces white people out of the country and destroys it.
Please tell me then, wtf should I feel safe here, when the most "saintly" of men does not stand up against these kinds of things. It just shows you, that he doesn't give a f*ck about us. The entire world condemns Mugabe but NM doesn't because it's his buddy? Very righteous of him.
You still haven't answered me? Why should YOU rule us when it is criminal for us to rule you?
It's not fair is it? Just because there are more of you doesn't give you the right. What if we started breeding like rabits and eventually our numbers surpassed yours. Would being ruled by whites be justified, just because there are more of us?
@Dooringboom We have to rule you because you're in Africa and the majority of citizens are black. That there're more of us who didn't emigrate from a far away country to settle in Africa gives us the ABSOLUTE right to rule whoever lives on our land. U must be crazy to have written that comment. Where in the world do u see the contrary where the indigenous are many and are ruled by a minority?
Again you base your argument on false assumptions. Blacks came from the Niger delta, they migrated south into South Africa at about the same time whites landed in the Cape. You are settlers too! Your ancestors almost completelely wiped out the true natives, the Koi and San(bushmen) in the Mefcane. Now you use the argument that you were here first? Even then, you only occupied a very small part of South Africa, so claiming it in its entirety is ludicrous.
@Dooringboom I won't fall into that game of yours that u came first. the whole laughs at it because archaeology show the presence of bantou many hundreds of years before and any way khoi /sans are blacks anyway. It's too late to use that shit to divide us. Now teh african population was small to occupy the whole land. people move from one area to the otheer depending on food (rains) or water supply. That's how it workd in those days.
@Dooringboom The land is not to be shared like that. You integrate or you exit, that's the model. Your time in power was illegetimate and had no moral standings. We can only look at those days with disgust but it's over and it's time to move on. As much as u want a land of your own, the more people will show u the airport or the seaport for emigration. You integrate or u leave!. they're serious problems but we can't solve them like in those dark days by separation!
Why is South Africa the powerhouse of Africa? It is because this is where whites ruled the longest.
You can say whatever you want, my people have an amazing history, we conquered the world and developed 90% of technologies used today, we even went to the moon ans soon we will go to Mars, what have your people done?. I think you are scared to give us land, even the kalahari, because in a few years we will have started prospering again, while South Africa slides into the abyss.
@Dooringboom I have no doubt that your people have an amazing history ( Gone to the moon, atomic bomb, medical achievements etc) and one filled with glory. We africans have our own history and may not be glorious but we are diversed from the masai of the east to the peul of the west, from the berbers of the nord to the zulus of the south and we respect one another. U either join hands with the black majority or leave because even the kalahari won't be offered!
@ElephantForest What respect one another? Are you fucking kidding me ? you niggers might have all these other glorious things to your name like space travel, but respect for each outher isn't one of them. Lol you savages have been throwing sticks and stones at each other for hundreds of years.
@8deSPOOK another disgrunted white SA or depressive racist from western world who's been thrown off the continent. It's better to thrown stick and stones than to use gaz chambers or bombs because the loss in human lives is less massive. Now why is Africa still hunting u dude. Just let go of it mate. We don't need your stupid views and so try to make something good of your useless live which focuses mainly on blacks. Forget them and do something to better your society!
@ElephantForest I would love to forget you filthy coons FOREVER, but I went to live in the UK and there were almost as many coons in London as there are in Hillbrow. I've decided to move back to SA. Farm my millies and shoot as many kaffir as I have to. BTW kaffirs I have a surprise for you! A christmas box come to my farm and I'll issue all negro peeps your special gift.
@8deSPOOK ha ha ha ha lazy dude. Gone to UK and couldn't cope and you've returned to SA, what a confused fellow. The policies in the country will be passed by the kaffirs u hate but thanks dude for paying your taxes. This is all what we need, your person is of little use to us. Welcome back bro and enjoy our kaffir rule. If u came back, then probably it's not as bad as you say or at least better than in the Uk if u couldn't cope overthere!
@ElephantForest@ElephantForest Whites still pay the majority of tax in this country. By doing that, we are entitled to representation, irrespective of who is in power. "Benjamin Tucker" To force a man to pay for the violation of his own liberty is indeed an addition of insult to injury. "Thomas Jefferson" To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical "James Otis" Taxation without representation is tyranny.
@Dooringboom. I thought u are a secessionist and now u want representation. I knew u would fall like a mouse when I mention taxes. many countries in Africa , taxes are paid by gov't workers and some private sector but a good proportion doesn't pay taxes and these countries haven't crumble. No human tribe has based its survival on the other and so Africa wouldn't disappear if u leave. it existed before u came and there's no evidence to show the opposite
@Dooringboom So you mean, you're not represented at all in SA. A big domination of the ANC which as I said earlier is not a good thing doesn't mean you're not represented at all. Again if you want to increase your representation they you have to adopt your position to make it attractive for the different communities. Western cape isn't it in the hands of the DA and COPE is still to grab some grounds, Political plurality will come but if u adopt radical stands
@Dooringboom I don't know what you meant by "it's already ours" but if you're already happy why complain against blackrule since it's given u what u want. 8de Spook went to the Uk and even in his hatred for blacks, he came back. he went to his own and when he saw the treatment there, he ran back to mama africa. ha ha ha, why complain when it's so good overhere. Not all white share your view and so we'll always have u guys around and even some sharing your view are coming back.
@rrealtimer I admire your moderation and your show of tolerance which we need to take SA, Zim, Zambia and Africa as a whole to a higher level. There're serious problems as u've already mentioned and even domingboon on representation, the dorminant role of the ANC(lack of political plurality) and etc which to me are fully legitimate but we have to work together to solve these as our land is beautiful and we can make it even more accomodating for us all, peace!
"good proportion doesn't pay taxes" ? Only 9% of South Africa's population pays tax.
That means 91% have to be looked after by that small group. The government doesn't have any money. It has to take from the 9% to give to the rest. The majority of that 9% doesn't have any say in this country, they have no representation. How long do think this will last with you, Malema and Charles Nqakula telling people to fuckoff?
@Dooringboom Political plurality will come but if u adopt radical stands then u will create a political plurality will come but may still maintain the white/black line. You have to adopt stands we show your goals are clearly for all S. Africans and not only your community. Land issues in Southern Africa is very complex and is at the center of community discord.We need bold acts form the leader because alimentary security which is vital for a country is at stake here
@Dooringboom Land reforms needs a bold approach. I would have suggested a joint venture between experienced white farmers and those who're claiming it so that farmingexperience can be passed from one to the other. By working together as equals, they may learn to appreciate one another and it may facilitate the sharing process. because a land divided into 2 and evryone is satisfied ( maybe not happy) is better than these horrible murders whichI condem as I have mentioned earlier.
@Dooringboom Don't interprete my sentence to suit your desires. I'm proposing a manner in which the land dispute between white farmers and expropriated peope can sort out the mess and in no way does it pertain to the whole of SA.
Why does it not pertain to the whole of SA? My roots in this country go back more than 300 years. My ancestors have fought and died in almost every war in that time. I have as much right as you, to call this my home. And according to our constitution and rights set forth by the U.N, my people as a tribe and as a distinct culture has the right to self determination. Do you know what that means?
@Dooringboom dude, feel free you're at home but living with us and not seperated from us. You're a tribe and in Africa countries aren't formed by tribes but a composition of tribes and in this respect, your claim for a sepearate state can't be justified
What about Swaziland and Lesotho? Why do they have the right to govern themselves as Swazi's and Sothos(individual tribes) within our state's borders, but you deny this same right to us?
@Dooringboom You can thank your ancestors for giving swazi and lesotho's self gouvernance. how is it our fault or do you want us to invade those areas.. In those divide and rule policies, your ancestors sought to make alliances and today ,things stand as they are. When u see the luxury in which the swazi king lives in, you understand that's not correct. We don't want wars anymore, if they're happy fine but if they would want to join SA, that's fine as well!
The ANC when it came into power, gave all the homelands the option to govern themselves or to join South Africa. Those that chose to be autonomous, were allowed to govern themselves. Don't go blaming apartheid again. These people wanted to be independent. You are doing the same as your former colonial masters, the english. You want to rule everybody, you don't want people to preserve their culture, you want them to assimilate, you want to dominate them.
@lostwisdom100 You just showed that you're dumper than them
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FlorentNduwayo 1 month ago
It takes no skill to insult someone. It takes bravery to come out in the open and declare your beliefs and put your own life at risk fighting for your beliefs.
Will any white person who insulted Mandela while on his sick bed be man enough to spend 27 years of their own life in prison in fight of their own beliefs?
I'm a white girl. The ANC is fucking our country up.
I presently have no hope that the majority of my white race are brave enough to fight for a better government.
What frightens them?
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@Bodine48
I have 3 very important questions to ask you: 1.)Are you a fucking syndrome? 2.)Are you fucked in the cerebellum? 3.)Do you have something inside your head that needs to be removed?
If i were you I would not drink alcohol sonny cause it might get rid of that 1 brain cell you still have.
sanik00 5 months ago
Listen up you prick, mandela is going to die whatever happens, we all are! You need to educate yourself on mandela and who he really is. He is a puppet of the white Europen masters who own him and have done so for decades. He is a created myth sonny, used to bring your country to where it is today, via that white arsehole De Klerk. Grow up and grow some cajones you little wannabe news reporter. You wouldn't know truth if it shit on your doorstep!
Bodine48 7 months ago
where have you gone?
colinjockgraham 9 months ago
I haven't seen all your videos but I have the feeling and from what I've seen that you are a sensible person. I do believe that all white people are socialized racists but that it is also a matter of degrees. I feel that you are trying to be as fair as you can are actually in active conflict with your deeply ingrained racial attitudes which manifests itself by trying to be level headed and even handed. For that I like you. I am writing you from America. I am not from SA but u are quite known.
borehcom 9 months ago 2
I hope Uhuru comes, it will force pussies like Reindier to grow a set of balls.
lostwisdom100 9 months ago
What a poes! I think mandela is a poes also. I have this opinion yet I am not white. The boer also fought for what they believe in, hell I wish they still had the power. The country was much better. Your message is so full of aggression and violence then you say 'Peace, out!'. Man!!!!
PhilemonUmkaka 10 months ago
What a poes! I think mandela is a poes also. I have this opinion yet I am not white. The boer also fought for what they believe in, hell I wish they still had the power. The country was much better. Your meviolence then you say 'Peace, out!'. Man!!!!
PhilemonUmkaka 10 months ago
@Sibs1990 I never got that impression personally. He's defended Mandela many times.
JGmartinezJr 10 months ago
" oppressed " they would of been worst off without the whites building developing S. Africa. Even under apartheid north Africans were crossing the border tying to sneak in the country. Let them try slaughter whites they'll regret it when armies from Europe, US come in n fucking take over again.
DiNatalli 11 months ago
Fuck that commie, I am sick of the white media worshiping this cunt like he is some fucking angel.
DiNatalli 11 months ago
nice accent.
by the way, it's March and Mandela is still alive. "Destroying the image of white SA's?" lol- are you serious? i'm quite surprised the Afrikaans didn't high tail it out of SA years ago. I would frankly be ashamed to inhabit a country that my ancestors stole.
researchsiempre 1 year ago
Mandela should of stayed in power till he died think of how much better it would be there
Chansulus 1 year ago
Look I am not South African. I am white Australian but I have made South African friends, both here in london where I live and back in SA.
But I know what's going on down there and I know about the white genocide.
Are you trying to say you idiot (the speaker) that is OK to murder and rape people because of past suppression? Wow, how childish and stupid is that? There is an annilihation of a race going on but everyone is looking the other way. You bring shame to your race.
bluebe11a 1 year ago
Louis Farrakhan fights for what he believes in, that being the eventual extinction of all European People.
So call me what you want, but I say FUCK NELSON MANDELA, AND I HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE. I hope it's documented as being painful and misery-filled. In fact, I hope there is video of him bleeding out, with all of his African and Jewish pals at his bedside.
And as much as I support and love Afrikaner culture, I hope the blacks begin fucking you up. You need a wake up call.
You
UllrPallson 1 year ago
@UllrPallson Your not a White South African, stay out of it. go and comment on Fox News where WHITE Americans and African Americans are doing racist to each other!
88motho 1 year ago
@UllrPallson What a good comment.... Nelson Mandela Can suck my dick ! Fuck him he can eat my shit. ! BTW.... HOW DOES BLACK PEOPLE DO A PREGNANCY TEST? Push a 20cm banana in her dirty pussy and wait 10min after the 10min pull out slowly if its eaten half way..... a MONKEY is on its way! LOL
BNXR 11 months ago
Adolf Hitler fought for what he believed in too.
Torhammaren 1 year ago
IMO SA politics have to be viewed from a geopolitical point of view pretty much like the rest of the continent.
Its naive to imagine Mandela simply came out of his hut with revolutionary ideas, was put in prison , sang his songs and ideals, a great regime was put in place. End of story.
No...Its more like foreign interests picking one side , propping him up at the expense of most SAfricans and screwing internal African politics.
International pressure destroyed Apartheid not mandela
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Rendier you are even a bigger hypocrite than the so called whites you refer to.
jamboth 1 year ago
Rendier you are even a bigger hypocrite the the so called whites you refer to.
jamboth 1 year ago
"They displaced, conquered and absorbed the original Khoisan speakers, the Khoikhoi and San peoples. The Bantu slowly moved south."
jhbhooligan 1 year ago
To all you idiots saying that Mandela was the reason for why South Africa is the way it is (calling him a terrorist and such), you are all ignorant as fuck. Mandela was no saint, that much is clear. But he fought against a system of government that was wrong. Not only that, he is one of the few African leaders that stepped down after his term in office, leaving a strong South Africa to build upon. It is in no way his fault that Mbeki and Zuma fucked the country over.
induna7 1 year ago
wow, so many comments by people claiming Rendier attracts Nazis and so on. Isn't it great to have so many people are so wise and that are able to know why many ppl watched rendier's vids. I watched it because he wasn't always a back-stabbing-attention seeking pagent queen who only gives a shit about youtube ratings. I'm not a nazi, but i'm not blind or some two-bit traitor either.
saying bad things about blacks won't get views, and might cause ur death, but u are a coward to say th least!
watawatan0w 1 year ago
South Africa Sucks is back online at zasucks(dot)net
pathologyex 1 year ago
@ElephantForest Man, just don't give me that non-sense. I have lived in many countries where people co-live and there are no (big) racial problems.
You guys(whites and blacks) seem to be stuck in that shithole mentality where you wanna blame others. Why don't you guys drop all your racist laws and BEE's and shit and start building a 1st world country where everyone can live in (relative) peace?
renoxwolf 1 year ago
@renoxwolf Haha someone has been brainwashed by the jewish media. Shame I won't even waste my time trying to explain.
8deSPOOK 1 year ago
@8deSPOOK Don't give me that bullshit non-sense about that I have been brainwashed, cos I'm ONLY stating facts and not opinions, so brainwashing is out of the order.
Fact is that in South Africa is still very racist.
Fact is also that in The Netherlands, this black/white problem is nonexistent.
All I asked is why they still are so backwards in SA and why they don't take an example of other countries like NL where this black/white problem doesn't exist.
renoxwolf 1 year ago
@renoxwolf That's simple. The Netherlands has white people of European culture in power. South Africa has black people of tribal culture in power.
The differences in culture and IQ pretty much explain why one place is more civilized that the other. (PS: average IQ differences between white and black people are a no-brainer for anyone who understands evolution by natural selection, while looking up the statistics. That's still no excuse for behaving badly towards our fellow humans, though).
wyqtor 11 months ago
@renoxwolf
Black people in SA were nort allowed to grow , and to be who they could be , BEE s a way to help them catch up to the rest of sa
joelloike 1 year ago
@joelloike Why is BEE still in place though? Don't South Africans get born under equal circumstances now? Doesn't a black guy that goes to university now have fairly the same opportunities as a white guy?
There is a time where you have to draw a limit. For example: If you were born after apartheid than you can't benefit from "positive discrimination". This way, over time, BEE and AA can be phased out.
renoxwolf 1 year ago
@renoxwolf
i see your point and i get it fully , however if your parents had no money because they couldnt work how cpuld they send you to a good school , how could you get an education ?, BEE should only be around for ten more years , till the adults who went through the hard times have passed away , thats what i think and i respect your view
joelloike 1 year ago
@joelloike Hey. I'm glad we agree on something and I totally do respect the "black view" and understand that they had to be helped in the past with things like BEE. I too agree that BEE should be phased out over time. I understood from R3ndi3r that blacks are allowed to study for free (not sure if its true?), so if that's so, then BEE could be phased out for younger people I think.
I also get R3ndi3r's frustration: Imagine getting born, studying and then because of the past, not getting a job...
renoxwolf 1 year ago
@renoxwolf Imagine being a Black African and Afrikaans stealing your land and telling you where can and can't go.
researchsiempre 1 year ago
@researchsiempre The land holdings of the Afrikaaner people didn't change drastically during the entire period of Apartheid. So this statement is just blatant falsification.
UllrPallson 11 months ago
@renoxwolf It's never going to change, until both Leftistm and Liberalism are shown in their true light.
The political left both exalts and degrades non-whites. They praise their "cultural value" and "spiritual power" while at the same time enacting policies which indicate their belief that non-whites are inherently in need of uplifting and empowerment.
This world will not heal until multiculturalism is abolished and people are able to succeed or fail on their own collective racial merits.
UllrPallson 11 months ago
Man , please , u have bipolar! contradict yourself....
Kpublik1 1 year ago
Let me get this straight...You are ashamed to call yourself a white south african because white south arficans are saying bad things about a leader who indirectly facilitates the genocide of your very own people. You are a sell out plain and simple and should be thrown to the dogs.
b2020vision 1 year ago
@b2020vision Good to see i'm not the only one thinking this.
watawatan0w 1 year ago
(continues) lastly, there's probably no person in the entire world who hates Blacks - or anybody else - simply because they LOOK in a certain way. The question of Blacks is not a question of how they look like, but a question of what they do and how they choose to run their society practically everywhere. Everything else like racial slurs is just a consequence of being angry. I mean, you yourself said anti-White crime and discrimination was rampant, so is the N word somehow worse than rape?
Scherzo7 1 year ago
@Scherzo7 You basically sum up these black apologist liberals, they make a huge deal about whites using a certain offensive word and then make apologies for the disproportionate amount of rapes and murders commited by blacks.
UnyieldingDefiance 1 year ago
(post continues) Don't you think then that someone who had their loved one or relative raped or killed by a Black is somewhat justified in hating them? Judging by crime stats, there are a lot of White people who suffered in that way, maybe including folks who ran that blog. Maybe some holier-than-though liberals would have had the power to forgive murder and rape. Myself, I can honestly say I couldn't have.
Scherzo7 1 year ago
hey rendier, I respect your position, since you obviously know more about South Africa than I do. I would like to continue getting your perspective on things, but there's one bit I can't understand about this 'white trash' talk. It was you who brought our attention to the fact that there are numerous violent crimes where Whites are targeted for murder, rape, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but White on Black crimes in SA aren't as frequent to put it mildly. (post continues above)
Scherzo7 1 year ago
man you bare doing too much about it. No matter your race and religion you can't stop hatred so best thing is not to pay attentiuon like you do man.
clicksalop92 1 year ago
Ren sold his soul to the jew for a fancy studio, and is now blocking his white trash supporters. No death threats from me but if I see the Kaffirs chasing you down, don't run past me I'll trip you up for you black friends to play with.
8deSPOOK 1 year ago
I hope the old bugger dies soon, so South Africa can get on with the future. When he became president, the killing of whites became common place, especially among the farming community. His legacy is one of intellerance and revenge, his words mask his intentions. According Zuma - if you vote for the ANC you get a ticket to Heaven, so old Nelson should not worry...lol.
DaSlug32 1 year ago
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asas2jh 1 year ago
what a clown this kid is. Those who have sold out in the near future...it will not go well for them.
b2020vision 1 year ago
From what i understand he was killing innocent white farmers. His ex Wife also organised murders which he was aware of.
woody500z 1 year ago
very well said, rendier. i knew i subscribed to you for a reason. i always sense that you were just a pissed off white south african and not a racist. personally i dont really admire mandela, however im not a south african so my feelings on him are meaningless. all i know is i hate george bush with a passion but i would never dream of insulting him on his death bed, or anyone eles for that matter.
slimithy12 1 year ago
Mandela was a terrorist, the irony of watching Rendier bitching about how he respects the man who was the catalyst for the destruction of the once great SA is quite humorous.
If you can learn anything from Mandela,complaining in the media won't change things. Grab a gun, create a collective and establish your own land.
ForImperium 1 year ago
@ForImperium yes, yes, that means the jews in warsaw were terrorist, the jews in 1939 palestine were terrorist, the pilgrims were terroist, the french resistance were terrorist, the americans in the alamo were terrorist, the brits in the falklands were terrorist, infact anyone who has ever fought for anything is a terrorist. remember mandela saved whites when he came out of prison. if it was up to the rest of the anc, SA would look worst then zimbabwe right now. mandela was white SA's puppet!
slimithy12 1 year ago
Mandela later admitted that the ANC, in its struggle against apartheid, also violated human rights, sharply criticising those in his own party who attempted to remove statements supporting this fact from the reports of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
He characterized this as constituting terrorism, particularly the Church Street bombing. Why do you think he was sent to jail in the first place?
The fact remains that blacks and whites would have been better off under minority rule.
ForImperium 1 year ago
@ForImperium better to die on your feet then live on your knees. btw, mandela wouldnt be better off under minority rule and im sure millions of other africans who can now create better lives for themselves wouldnt be better off either.
slimithy12 1 year ago
If by living you mean, fighting for survival in decrepit cities where violence is rampant, basic utilities like water and electricity are unreliable or non existent. Besides, under Apartheid blacks lived in segregated communities, had jobs in SA industry that actually existed, it was regarded as a 1st world nation, had nuclear energy, people weren't mugged or carjacked on highways. The nation has gone to shit, 30% aids rate, some of the worst health systems even for Africa, it's a disaster.
ForImperium 1 year ago
@ForImperium by living i mean being able to choose your their destiny and future and not have it dictated to them by people of thought of them as no better then a caged monkey at a zoo. under apartheid those very same people your talking about were considered dirt by the same people who's job it was to look out for their safty. they had no vote, no rights and no prospects or possiblitities to progess as a nation or as a people. when china finally invades the west your'll see what it's like.
slimithy12 1 year ago
"When china finally invades the west your'll see what it's like."
You're an idiot, you're entire premise is regurgitated misinformation.
I hope ignorance is bliss.
ForImperium 1 year ago
@ForImperium the last bit was just a joke but no, ingnorance is not bliss so please feel free to enlighten me your higher info.
slimithy12 1 year ago
You can’t even type in coherent English, I really feel this is a waste of my time. Reading a fucking book, preferably a primary source then make conclusions independently. Don’t ask me to “enlighten you”, do it yourself. You’re entire views are based off post apartheid ANC propaganda and have no basis in history nor fact. Your statement regarding China further reflects your complete rejection of any awareness of geopolitics. PM me if you really can’t learn independently.
ForImperium 1 year ago
@ForImperium wow, somebody really should look up the word SARCASM in the dictionary. your ignorant ass couldnt enlighten a match box with a fucking lighter! btw, the ONLY info i get on the anc is from rendier videos and the bbc....lol.
slimithy12 1 year ago
My God, you're such an idiot. Where do I begin?
Your tone was too dry to be identified in text as sarcastic.
The term enlighten has nothing to do with fire nor light. Hence your metaphor makes you, not I look like the idiot.
The fact that you get most of your 'knowledge' from youtube and what the tv tells you, BBC no less, speaks volumes and explains said stupidity.
You should really take my suggestion and actually read a fucking book.
Or better yet, shoot yourself in the face.
ForImperium 1 year ago
@ForImperium wow i never thought you'd take a figure of speech so literally but seeing as you have. Word Origin & History: enlighten: late 14c. (O.E. had inlihtan ), "to remove the dimness or blindness (usually figurative) from one's eyes or heart," from en- + lighten......nothing to do with light huh? also i never said i get ALL my info from youtube, i said i get my info about the ANC from and anti ANC white african, so the idea that im some sort of ANC spokesman or supporter is hilarious!
slimithy12 1 year ago
@slimithy12 pray tell just exactly how did mandela save the whites when he came out of prison? Bear in mind the SA defence force and police force was, until 2000, predominantly white. So mandela really had no choice but to make no decisions as president or achieve anything at all as a statesman , because if he did think of revenge, there would have been a massacre of the black south africans if they tried anything. Interestingly it is after 2000 Mugabe started his shit. Coincidence?
gogganeus 1 year ago
well this is my view so please dont jump down my throat: madela stopped a major war from happening. there are around 10 million whites and around 40 million blacks. although the whites had more and better weapons the blacks still were armed too. also the outside world would of backed the blacks if a full scale war broke out. the moral high ground was with them all the way, white south africa was already black listed. so i think the whites would have lost a war and maybe their home land too.
slimithy12 1 year ago
@slimithy12 That war was needed, to secure a home land. If we hanged mandela and stood and fought like men, our women and children might not be murdered and raped every day. We gained fuck all from not fighting.
8deSPOOK 1 year ago
@8deSPOOK i agree, i personally think the hate between whites and blacks in south africa is so deep rooted that they should of just fought it out. all this pretending to be friends is bullshit. fuck mandela, he served absolutly no purpose. the blacks should of kicked all the racist whites out while they had the support of the world behind them. now they have lost the support, the moral high ground and will never get their land back from their racist suppressors. ahh well....
slimithy12 1 year ago
@slimithy12 Yah good you know it, Zim got rid of their racist suppressors. Anyway you blacks are far too smart for your own good lol.
8deSPOOK 1 year ago
@8deSPOOK very interesting reply. what made you say that? please elaborate.
slimithy12 1 year ago
Dont have any criticism of Mandela, but did the ANC really have to "necklace" so many poor africans on the way to power. I dont see how murdering your own people whilst fighting for black self determination was necessary?
BucksSpur 1 year ago
KAK! It's going to happen ANYWAY due to the nature of the beast. Just because a man is dying your opinion of him changes? We will all die some time, no one has managed to live indefinitly. Either you had the wrong opinion in the first place or you are wimping out!
Looks like you have a Plan B.
Biggerbadwolf 1 year ago
Your most controversial video thus far!
asas2jh 1 year ago
Do exactly the same as Mandela, huh? So why haven't you started yet, boet? Or is the penny yet to drop?
(You sound a bit nervous about "Uhuru'...poeping yourself, no doubt.)
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Afrostyle786 1 year ago
@Afrostyle786 Fuck off you, you filthy coon. How the fuck would you know what the people want or need for that matter ? They are so stupid they don't even know them selves .Youre just a little half cast piece of shit from USA. Real Africans wouldn't give you the time of day, a plastic pretend African like yourself, is fucking pathetic.
BTW unblack me sorry unblock me you fucking foul mouthed half shit.
8deSPOOK 1 year ago
@8deSPOOK You are unblocked faggot.
Afrostyle786 1 year ago
@8deSPOOK Hahaha!
Afrostyle786 1 year ago
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@8deSPOOK - no, you're saying to change my opinions so they would be more aligned with yours.
That kind of response I would expect from someone from Uzbekistan, not a South African.
ApocalypsePlough 1 year ago
Fuck mandela
smrtmuslimanima 1 year ago
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Mandela is probably one of the most important people on earth and South Africa is a blessed nation to have him as their first ANC president
So FUCK YOU!!!!
Herb615 1 year ago
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Dude, so because some white South Africans are insulting this guy, all white South Africans need to worry about being massacred by blacks. This kind of reminds me of what used to go on with jews in Europe, one jew does something stupid, and than mobs come and kill dozens of jews. If I were in that country, I'd be working day and night to get the fuck out and move someplace civilized where I don't need to worry about being massacred.
lucamansan 1 year ago
@lucamansan This has nothing to do with the jews in europe. Do you see the officials and the military going up in arms against you. No! Just random illegals and very low class blacks that never got land because more then 90% of the land is owned by whites. This is not from em but from a news in america article I read. I am sure most of those land owning whites and their families have the money to get the fuck out but being only 1/10th of the population and owning that much land is just not right
Afrostyle786 1 year ago
@Afrostyle786 Not all white South Africans are rich, in fact, most are NOT rich, they are middle class, a very small percentage of whites in South Africa are wealthy and/or landowners. There are also large numbers of poor whites in South Africa, who can't even leave the country because they have no money, and only have South African citizenship. Also, whether it's mobs or just criminals, fully 1% of white South Africans have been murdered by black criminals since the end of apartheid.
lucamansan 1 year ago
@lucamansan Then get the Dutch to help them. I mean most of them are Dutch and English. Why not ask those nations to help you guys.
Afrostyle786 1 year ago
@lucamansan What you think you can just make your own nation by dividing up south africa? That will never happen but I would sure love to see you try.
Afrostyle786 1 year ago
@lucamansan It shows remnants of the white dominated society that once ruled south africa.
Afrostyle786 1 year ago
@Afrostyle786 Don't consider 8deSPOOK's to heart as he's another disgruntle guy and is quite in a confuse state. We welcome views of our far away cousins who were forecefully carried to the other side of the Atlantic. We know that though you guys may not fully understand current African complexity. You'll always be treated as a brother and I encourgae you to come and visit. You can learn alot in the US by joining African diaspora and dialoguing with them.
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest Thanks! Yes we were taken away. First it was the arab slave trade. Then it was the white slave trade. Then when our numbers were low. They colonized us for at least 150 years. While they colonized Africa they were slaving us on the other side of the sea for 400 years. People lived and died under the lash. Arabs kept up the slave trade for 12 centuries. Up till the 1960s. I am glad the Zulu fought the whites. To me no arab or white group should be living in sub saharan africa.
Afrostyle786 1 year ago
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rrealtimer 1 year ago
@Afrostyle786. Now I will disagree with you on some issues and side with realtimer. I wouldn't see any problem with white SA like realtimer who have understood as a minority,it's by putting hand with the majority to move forward. I would have a serious problem with those like dooming boom or 8despook, which if it were for me, those two are not africans. Now coming to the slave trade and current situation, that's where u may need to learn more with respect to modern africa
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@Afrostyle786 If that's the case then no africans or arabs should be living in Europe right?
pathologyex 1 year ago
@pathologyex Sure knock yourself out. Do what ever the hell you want. Only weak africans go over to europe. Those that can't make it in africa go over there.
Afrostyle786 1 year ago
@ElephantForest The arabs and their converts that did make it to west africa took slaves and they were never heard of again. All of them were killed eventually. They would rape the woman then kill the baby. They would castrate the men. In fact you could look to sudan and see how the SPLA are fighting the arabs/arab converts to the north.
Afrostyle786 1 year ago
@Afrostyle786 I have the chance to have travel around africa and in Europe. We don't have an issue on slavery with the arab north and u wouldn't hear a sub-saharan countries attacking a north afrian one on this. We've moved past that stage because we understand in those days where kingdoms and tribe existed instead of countries today, wars were fought and losers made slaves and that we would have done the same if we had horses, bow & arrow during that stage
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@Afrostyle786 Now as for slave trade to the americas, Fos as much as we blamethose european countries, we can't ignore it takes two to tango and that our own tribal chiefs actively took part by attacking other villages, capturing men in exchange for rum & guns. In some respect we share part of the blame for u being there & I think the African Union should issue an apology for our role and I know one day it will. However we need to move forward as we've still lagging behind others continents
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@Afrostyle786 These days,it's all about moving forward and evrybody who can bring his own contribution is welcomed because we've always been diversed. However we have our history and icons including Mandela, kenyatta, Nkrumah,Lumumba and many who sacrifice their lives for freedom. Cheap attacks on them is an attack on us and this is only going to cause insecurity around. It's preferable for those who hate our icons to keep it to themselves than voicing it out!
ElephantForest 1 year ago
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Does this say I'm not a seccessionist? Or does it say why I want to secceed?
"I am not a secessionist who wants representation, I want secession because I have no representation."
Dooringboom 1 year ago
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"cause a land divided into 2 and evryone is satisfied" Is that not what seccession is?
Dooringboom 1 year ago
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Here is why you are in power:
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Dooringboom 1 year ago
You said "I ask those white farmers on expropriated land to hand it as soon as possible to avoid bloodshed" Farmers are being murdered on all land, expropriated or not. You brothers are terrorizing the farming community, the very people who provide them with food security. This combined with the very small taxpool being discriminated against is a recipe for disaster. But you and your politians are too blind to see this.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
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rrealtimer 1 year ago
@rrealtimer i would support the overthrow of Mugabe and it's a shame that white-zimbabweans have been barred from politics. Those who are ready to work hand in hand have all my respect and the banning of white-zim who want to better Zim can't beencourage.
ElephantForest 1 year ago
Stop using the internet, stop going to the doctor, stop watching tv, stop driving, stop flying, stop reading, stop writing, stop using words like educated. We brought all of that here. Why don't you go back to the way you were? That vastly superior thing you call african culture. You love all the benefits of western culture but you hate westerners. Ironic don't you think?
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom I have tried without success to bring you to moderation withour success. I found common ground accepting with you that Moeletsi Mbeki is a good leader than Zuma/Malemma but you're only desire is to have a white state in southern africa. As such there's little I can do but to encourage you to leave and now u've gone to a white/black line. You don't know the complexity of the Zim situation in which UK paid subsidies for a gradual return of the land but stop when brown came to power
ElephantForest 1 year ago
And another question, why am I not allowed to call NM a terrorist?
It's the truth isn't it?
Here's the definition:
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.
Thats about as accurate as it gets?
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom. It's not complicated Dooring Boom, it isn't and many have taken the easy option out and we clearly wish them well. BUT if you decide to stay and you think your cultural difference makes u unique( and indeed u are unique in Africa) to the point separation is the better option, then those that don't feel confortable can leave. I won't wan to live in Iran because of sharia law, if u can't stand the ANC, then do same and let pragmatic people like rrealtimer join hands to better things
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest I do get sick with SOME white SA. We have white communities all through out Africa and only in SA are they so unhappy. And many white Africans (non SA) like in Kenya see him as a icon. We have indian and chinese communities, why aren't they afraid their cultures may disappear? why aren't they treating mandela as a terrorist. Why are some white sheep in SA so problematic. they haven't understood like others white african communities that only in unity we move forward! peace
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
The only reason why there are more of you is because your people have no restraint, they breed like rabbits. That is also the reason poverty is increasing. White people have fewer children and put all their resources into those few children, so that they may have a better life then them. Blacks on the other hand, have many children. So their resources are spread thin, dooming the children to the same life as their parents.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom Don't worry Dooring that's changing with the educated masses the child/family is redducing. Now that's your choice to do have less kids but anyway, we're not as many as the indians and the chinese though Africa far bigger than both countries. So there may still be some space for more. Listen before your forefathers came to my land, Africa existed and didn't ask for help so stop thinking u're the solution to Africa !
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
Are those other minorities being murdered on their farms?
Are they last on the list when it comes to BEE? Is their history being wiped out and the places they built being renamed to those of terrorists? We are the only white tribe in Africa, as you said before. We have as much right to be here as you. We deserve a land of our own. Then you and your brotehrs can break down the things that we built. We will build new things in our country.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom Exactly because the land reform is very slow and some white farmers don't want to let go of those lands. i condem in the most strongest language those crimes but I ask those white farmers on expropriated land to hand it as soon as possible to avoid bloodshed. A people thrown from their land will never have peace untill the regain it. Some white farmers have to learn this but unfortunately they do so at the expense of their lives
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
That sounds like a threat to me. At last your true colours are shining.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
Again, you are not lsitening. Your ancestors occupied a very small portion of South Africa. But now you want all the farms?
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
You refuse to be ruled by the whites who brought you civilization, but I must submit to be ruled by sub-saharan blacks who have an average IQ of 70 and never constructed a building higher than two stories.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom Ofcourse I condem Mugabe for being stupid to drive a group that had the experience to feed the nation because UK couldn't keep its promise and for what else happened. Thank you after teasing u a bit, you've shown your real colours, blacks with IQ of 70, can't build more than 2 floors, stupid dumb. This is why you want a state as blacks as too stupid to rule your people. Then you have a difficult equation to solve my friend, a very difficult one indeed
ElephantForest 1 year ago
Why hasn't NM spoken out against Malema? Why hasn't he spoken out against Mugabe. What about all his friends who are the worst human rights abusers. His best chums are dictators. Why hasn't he apologised to the families of civilians that he killed? The whites were forced to do so at the TRC, why not him? He has never condemned any of the horrible things that have happened in South Africa, think about it! He is just a poster boy for the communists.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom You're asking a retired old man wanting to live his last day in peace to re-enter politics and comdem malemma. This should have been the job of mbeki, zuma and the younger generation. NM knows well the complexity in african politics and as well as the help he had from Mugabe during those aprtheid days. Listen dude, there's what is good/bad and there geopolitics, Why would US back african dictators in the past to fight communist russia, u see my point, don't mix things up!
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
Malema has been around for a couple of years, he didn't just pop up recently.
NM had help from Mugabe, so he doesn't say a word when Mugabe forces white people out of the country and destroys it.
Please tell me then, wtf should I feel safe here, when the most "saintly" of men does not stand up against these kinds of things. It just shows you, that he doesn't give a f*ck about us. The entire world condemns Mugabe but NM doesn't because it's his buddy? Very righteous of him.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
You still haven't answered me? Why should YOU rule us when it is criminal for us to rule you?
It's not fair is it? Just because there are more of you doesn't give you the right. What if we started breeding like rabits and eventually our numbers surpassed yours. Would being ruled by whites be justified, just because there are more of us?
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom We have to rule you because you're in Africa and the majority of citizens are black. That there're more of us who didn't emigrate from a far away country to settle in Africa gives us the ABSOLUTE right to rule whoever lives on our land. U must be crazy to have written that comment. Where in the world do u see the contrary where the indigenous are many and are ruled by a minority?
ElephantForest 1 year ago 3
@ElephantForest
Again you base your argument on false assumptions. Blacks came from the Niger delta, they migrated south into South Africa at about the same time whites landed in the Cape. You are settlers too! Your ancestors almost completelely wiped out the true natives, the Koi and San(bushmen) in the Mefcane. Now you use the argument that you were here first? Even then, you only occupied a very small part of South Africa, so claiming it in its entirety is ludicrous.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom I won't fall into that game of yours that u came first. the whole laughs at it because archaeology show the presence of bantou many hundreds of years before and any way khoi /sans are blacks anyway. It's too late to use that shit to divide us. Now teh african population was small to occupy the whole land. people move from one area to the otheer depending on food (rains) or water supply. That's how it workd in those days.
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
So now you claim the entire country?
Why not give us land as we gave you your own homelands when we were in power?
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom The land is not to be shared like that. You integrate or you exit, that's the model. Your time in power was illegetimate and had no moral standings. We can only look at those days with disgust but it's over and it's time to move on. As much as u want a land of your own, the more people will show u the airport or the seaport for emigration. You integrate or u leave!. they're serious problems but we can't solve them like in those dark days by separation!
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
Are you too thick to see what happned to Zim when competent white farmers were chased away?
Dooringboom 1 year ago
"Your time in power was illegetimate" No it was not.
We were vastly superior to you and your people when we came here. It was only natural that we should rule.
Your people did the same when they encountered inferior tribes. At least we did not wipe you out like they did.
Dooringboom 1 year ago 4
@ElephantForest
Why is South Africa the powerhouse of Africa? It is because this is where whites ruled the longest.
You can say whatever you want, my people have an amazing history, we conquered the world and developed 90% of technologies used today, we even went to the moon ans soon we will go to Mars, what have your people done?. I think you are scared to give us land, even the kalahari, because in a few years we will have started prospering again, while South Africa slides into the abyss.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
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ElephantForest 1 year ago
@Dooringboom I have no doubt that your people have an amazing history ( Gone to the moon, atomic bomb, medical achievements etc) and one filled with glory. We africans have our own history and may not be glorious but we are diversed from the masai of the east to the peul of the west, from the berbers of the nord to the zulus of the south and we respect one another. U either join hands with the black majority or leave because even the kalahari won't be offered!
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest What respect one another? Are you fucking kidding me ? you niggers might have all these other glorious things to your name like space travel, but respect for each outher isn't one of them. Lol you savages have been throwing sticks and stones at each other for hundreds of years.
8deSPOOK 1 year ago
@8deSPOOK another disgrunted white SA or depressive racist from western world who's been thrown off the continent. It's better to thrown stick and stones than to use gaz chambers or bombs because the loss in human lives is less massive. Now why is Africa still hunting u dude. Just let go of it mate. We don't need your stupid views and so try to make something good of your useless live which focuses mainly on blacks. Forget them and do something to better your society!
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest I would love to forget you filthy coons FOREVER, but I went to live in the UK and there were almost as many coons in London as there are in Hillbrow. I've decided to move back to SA. Farm my millies and shoot as many kaffir as I have to. BTW kaffirs I have a surprise for you! A christmas box come to my farm and I'll issue all negro peeps your special gift.
8deSPOOK 1 year ago
@8deSPOOK ha ha ha ha lazy dude. Gone to UK and couldn't cope and you've returned to SA, what a confused fellow. The policies in the country will be passed by the kaffirs u hate but thanks dude for paying your taxes. This is all what we need, your person is of little use to us. Welcome back bro and enjoy our kaffir rule. If u came back, then probably it's not as bad as you say or at least better than in the Uk if u couldn't cope overthere!
ElephantForest 1 year ago
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
"James M. Wayne"-
The payment of taxes gives a right to protection.
"Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr."-
I like to pay taxes. With them I buy civilization.
"Franklin D. Roosevelt"-
Taxes, after all, are dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
One day there will be no more white taxpayers to milk, then you will know what it is really like to live in Africa and to be ruled by Africans.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom. I thought u are a secessionist and now u want representation. I knew u would fall like a mouse when I mention taxes. many countries in Africa , taxes are paid by gov't workers and some private sector but a good proportion doesn't pay taxes and these countries haven't crumble. No human tribe has based its survival on the other and so Africa wouldn't disappear if u leave. it existed before u came and there's no evidence to show the opposite
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
I am not a secessionist who wants representation, I want secession because I have no representation.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom So you mean, you're not represented at all in SA. A big domination of the ANC which as I said earlier is not a good thing doesn't mean you're not represented at all. Again if you want to increase your representation they you have to adopt your position to make it attractive for the different communities. Western cape isn't it in the hands of the DA and COPE is still to grab some grounds, Political plurality will come but if u adopt radical stands
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
Btw,
We don't need you to give us anything, it is allready ours.
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom I don't know what you meant by "it's already ours" but if you're already happy why complain against blackrule since it's given u what u want. 8de Spook went to the Uk and even in his hatred for blacks, he came back. he went to his own and when he saw the treatment there, he ran back to mama africa. ha ha ha, why complain when it's so good overhere. Not all white share your view and so we'll always have u guys around and even some sharing your view are coming back.
ElephantForest 1 year ago
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rrealtimer 1 year ago
@rrealtimer I admire your moderation and your show of tolerance which we need to take SA, Zim, Zambia and Africa as a whole to a higher level. There're serious problems as u've already mentioned and even domingboon on representation, the dorminant role of the ANC(lack of political plurality) and etc which to me are fully legitimate but we have to work together to solve these as our land is beautiful and we can make it even more accomodating for us all, peace!
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
"good proportion doesn't pay taxes" ? Only 9% of South Africa's population pays tax.
That means 91% have to be looked after by that small group. The government doesn't have any money. It has to take from the 9% to give to the rest. The majority of that 9% doesn't have any say in this country, they have no representation. How long do think this will last with you, Malema and Charles Nqakula telling people to fuckoff?
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom Political plurality will come but if u adopt radical stands then u will create a political plurality will come but may still maintain the white/black line. You have to adopt stands we show your goals are clearly for all S. Africans and not only your community. Land issues in Southern Africa is very complex and is at the center of community discord.We need bold acts form the leader because alimentary security which is vital for a country is at stake here
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@Dooringboom Land reforms needs a bold approach. I would have suggested a joint venture between experienced white farmers and those who're claiming it so that farmingexperience can be passed from one to the other. By working together as equals, they may learn to appreciate one another and it may facilitate the sharing process. because a land divided into 2 and evryone is satisfied ( maybe not happy) is better than these horrible murders whichI condem as I have mentioned earlier.
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
"a land divided into 2 and evryone is satisfied" Is that not what seccession is?
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom Don't interprete my sentence to suit your desires. I'm proposing a manner in which the land dispute between white farmers and expropriated peope can sort out the mess and in no way does it pertain to the whole of SA.
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
Why does it not pertain to the whole of SA? My roots in this country go back more than 300 years. My ancestors have fought and died in almost every war in that time. I have as much right as you, to call this my home. And according to our constitution and rights set forth by the U.N, my people as a tribe and as a distinct culture has the right to self determination. Do you know what that means?
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom dude, feel free you're at home but living with us and not seperated from us. You're a tribe and in Africa countries aren't formed by tribes but a composition of tribes and in this respect, your claim for a sepearate state can't be justified
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
What about Swaziland and Lesotho? Why do they have the right to govern themselves as Swazi's and Sothos(individual tribes) within our state's borders, but you deny this same right to us?
Dooringboom 1 year ago
@Dooringboom You can thank your ancestors for giving swazi and lesotho's self gouvernance. how is it our fault or do you want us to invade those areas.. In those divide and rule policies, your ancestors sought to make alliances and today ,things stand as they are. When u see the luxury in which the swazi king lives in, you understand that's not correct. We don't want wars anymore, if they're happy fine but if they would want to join SA, that's fine as well!
ElephantForest 1 year ago
@ElephantForest
The ANC when it came into power, gave all the homelands the option to govern themselves or to join South Africa. Those that chose to be autonomous, were allowed to govern themselves. Don't go blaming apartheid again. These people wanted to be independent. You are doing the same as your former colonial masters, the english. You want to rule everybody, you don't want people to preserve their culture, you want them to assimilate, you want to dominate them.
Dooringboom 1 year ago