were divided into 72 sections but my people will be divided into 73 sections, all of them will be in the fire except one." The companions asked, 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "They are those who will be like me and my companions."
Abdullah bin Amar (RA) relates that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said "Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites
aoa im ahmadi and u guys dont even know what we are thinking of so stop sayin bad stuff about us....ahmadis are lucky and will stay forever YOU PEOPLE CAN DO NOTHIN BUT JUST ABUSE US which doesnot make any difference to us...
He also said that sect would be the largest of all sects. unfortunately ur sect(which is not a sect even,its a cult,leme know if u wana know why a cult) is no where near being the largest sect.
@wamsluv : Can you quote any Hadith which says that the 73rd sect will be the largest one? I challenge you to present such a Hadith. However, Prophet (saw) had clearly mentioned the sign of the ONE true sect as Similar to him & sahaba. We all know that non-believers of Mecca use to persecute the Prophet (saw) & his Sahabas (ra) for saying Kalima لا اله الا الله محمد رسول اللہ . Watch today who is persecuted for the same crime & at whom hand?
Mr. Dawah. I accept your challenge without asking any return except to RESEARCH BEFORE YOU MAKE A CHALLENGE.
The Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: Allah will never allow my Ummah to unite upon misguidance and incorrect beliefs. Allahs mercy, blessings and protection are with the largest group of Muslims. And he who deviates from this largest group of Muslims will be thrown into Hell. (Tirmizi)
@wamsluv : It is true that our BELOVED Prophet (saw) told us that ummmah is NOT going 2 unite on misguidance. But it is also true that he (saw) NEVER said that all the 72 sects will b on guidance while ONLY ONE will be misguided as today Mullah's belonging to all the 72 sects declare. Telling about the ONE on guidance Prophet (saw) has clearly said that "IT WILL BE THAT GROUP OF MUSLIMS WHICH WILL HAVE AN IMAM". i.e The one which will be great due to Imam & not merely large in number. UNDERSTOOD
@wamsluv : About the 1which will be on the Right path our beloved Prophet (saw) clearly said that it will be having AN IMAM. So, Bukhari tells " I said, "What do you order me to do if such a state should take place in my life?" He said, "Stick to the group of Muslims and their IMAM." I said, "If there is neither a group of Muslims nor an IMAM?" He said, "Then turn away from all those sects even if you were to bite (eat) the roots of a tree till death overtakes you while you are in that state."
so when it is about clearifying ur own point of view n u find 1 hadith in bukhari.its all about bukhari. otherwise u will talk about saha-e-sitta. u will even reject the authenticity when its about ur point of view. u will even reject authenticity when its about ur point of view.
i presented ahadith accepted by 4 of saha-e-sitta n u still reject it. u know what does it remind me. lemme quote it in the next msg.
@wamsluv : I am NOT denying any Hadith. Rather I am interpreting the Hadith you quoted in the Light of another Hadith Explained in detail in Sahaih Bukhari. Prophet (saw) had clearly told that
1) At the time of Split 72 sects will be misguided while only ONE will be on the Right Path. Whereas Mullahs belonging to 72 sects says totally OPPOSITE i.e declare ONLY ONE as different from them.
2) Prophet (saw) had pointed out the ONE on true path havinf IMAM amomg them
The 1 true jama'ah will be the largest in number n will strictly follow the sunnah of Muhammad SAW and follow sahaaba. n' they will have imam amongst them.
I think 4 canonic r quoting something different than Imam Bukhari. those 4 r more authentic than Imam bukhari cuz they r in 4 major canonic books.
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ur interpretation is wrong. cuz no matter what u do neither sunnism nor ahmadiyat is totally opposite to Islam.
@wamsluv : There are HUNDREDS of Ahadith telling about an IMAM appointed by Allah to come when Mullahs were to distort & split Islam into 72 sects. At that time ONLY THE GROUP FORMED BY IMAM APPOINTED BY ALLAH WILL BE TRUE AND NOT ANYONE ELSE.
However, can you name the largest group which is ONLY on right path in your opinion?
Holy Prophet SAW said: "The group on the right path, which will enter Paradise, will be the group which follows my Sunna and that of my Sahaba and this will be the largest group of Muslims." [Tirmizi, Imam Ahmad, Abu Daud, Mishkat]
The holy Prophet(Sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said " He who deviates from the largest group of Muslims, even as much as a hand span, has himself cut off his connection with Islam." [Abu Daud, Imam Ahmed]
@wamsluv : The group that will be rightly guided will be a GREAT ONE HAVING AN IMAM & NOT HUGE PEOPLE SCATTERED LIKE SHEEP WITHOUT ANY IMAM. This is what the MOST AUTHENTIC HADITH i.e SAHAIH BUKHARI TELLS US {Ref: Volume 9, Book 88, Number 206: }
You will still not accept it. I know how you Ahmadis are. but u lost the challenge. I presented many ahaadeeth. n if u have enough courage allow my comments.
@wamsluv : I have presented Bukhari explaining the other similar Ahadith regarding the ONE rightly guided. And it tells that it will be the group HAVING AN IMAM.
You people neither have Imam nor you have the courage to declare ALL sects EXCEPT Yours as Misguided. Rather you all join hands to distinguish Ahmadi-Muslims as something different from you 72 sects.
mirza sure helped out the muslims a lot, things have gotten os much better since he died, we lost the ottoman caliphate, palestine and we are persecuted from the us to china. Muhammad pbug said that muslims will have prophethood, then guided khilafa (4 caliphs) then long lasting kingdoms like the abbasids, ottomans ect.. then military rule then khilafa again. mirza was over 100 years early i guess
listo888: It is a norm that after every Prophet as time laps people become corrupt and change the understanding of religion to suit their wishes. This is the reason that God always keeps on sending Prophets. Same was to happen with Islam as foretold by Prophet Muhammad (saw). He foretold that "A time will come when nothing will be left of Islam EXCEPT its name..., The Mullahs of that time will be the WORST CREATURES on earth - all the evil will be emerged from them & will revert to them"
listo888: Islam-Ahmadiyya is Messianic movement in Islam. Its purpose is to revive the Faith to its true spirit which is LOVE, Forgiveness & Sacrifices for others. But the Mullahs belonging to 72 sects have declared us Non-Muslim. Perhaps because our Islam is truly Peaceful as against their Islam of terrorism & violence.
"There will be thirty liars in my Ummah, each of them claiming to be a Prophet,
but I am the Khatam-un-Nabiyeen, there is NO Prophet after me."
(Sunan Abu Daud)
The words used here is La Nabiiyan Ba'dee. When the word La apears and the after it ends with in the state of Fatha, it meens there is absolutely no type of the second word(with emphasis), including subordinates etc. In this situation the word Nabiy is maftooh and the word before is a La meening the clown of Qadian was NOT a nabi.
Quran tells us that Jews had the habit of showing some verses while hide others. The Prophet (saw) had foretold that 72 out of 73 sects are going to EXACTLY resemble the 72 sects of Jews. Thus today Mullahs also show & overemphasize the Hadith about False Prophets while hide the Hadith of a subordinate Prophet mentioned under the title of Jesus & Messiah.
Don't you know that in same Abu Dawood there is also a Hadith saying "There will be NO Prophet Betweem me & Jesus & soon he will descend"
la nabia badi mean there is no sharia nabi after holy prophet,then what do u say about jesus he was not nabi how can u beleive he will come back after 2000 years,when quran clrerly says in sura anmbia ver35,to holy prophet,that we have not created any humen brfore you who has given forever life and is it posssible that oh mohammed they remain alive and you will passed away.
Promising subordinate Prophet Allah says that "And whoso obeys ALLAH and this Messenger shall be among those on whom ALLAH has bestowed HIS blessings - the Prophets, the Truthful, the Martyrs, and the Righteous.." 4:69
Then speaking of future Prophet Allah says "O ye Children of Adam! whenever there come to you apostles from amongst you, rehearsing My signs unto you,- those who are righteous and mend (their lives),- on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve." 7:35
The tribe of Israel was guided by prophets. When a prophet passed away, another prophet succeeded him. But no prophet will come after me; only caliphs will succeed me.
kh4n5 : There will be NO Prophet Between Me & Jesus - and soon he will descend among you" Abu Dawood. Thus there was to NO Prophet just after the Prophet (saw) but the one who was to come in Islam under the title of Jesus & Messiah was certainly to be a Prophet - but a subordinate one.
Mullahs accept some saying of the Prophet (saw) while Rejects others.
kh4n5: We (Ahmadi Muslims) believe in in the hadith you quoted. This Hadith is clearly saying that NO such Prophet can come after Muhammad (saw) who can create a new ummah (community). It means that whoever will come he will come without a new teaching & as subordinate to Muhammad thus will not create a new ummah.
What about a Hadith which refers the Messiah to come among Muslims as PROPHET OF ALLAH 4 TIMES?
kh4n5: Yes. we are the Last Ummah because the one who was to come under the title of Jesus & Messiah was to come as a subordinate Prophet without a new Shariyah. Thus he was not to form a new religion or new ummah.
Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian was a Subordinate Prophet - Subordinate to Muhammad (saw). He was same Messiah & Mahdi who was to come.
Human flying to Allah & physically living there thousands of years and coming back flying down from skies are just childish stories & myths that NEVER happened in the past NOR it will EVER happen in the future.
Keep on waiting for Jesus (as) to return flying down from skies without space Shuttle as Jews r doing for Elijah. But it will NEVER happen.
say YES -- OR -- NO-- mirza ghulam ahmad was Nabi--Prophet--- Rasool of Allah ?? Yes or No --- I know that Qadyni will never answer this Question in very clear way and they will run away ... tell me -- Mirza was Nabi of Allah ???
kh4n5 : Yes, Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian was a Prophet but a subordinate one - subordinate to Muhammad (saw). And he came without a new teaching & to revive the lost spirit of Quran.
Ahletashie: Try to answer following question of Athiests in Simple "Yes" or "NO"
Q: quran tells us that Allah is All Powerful - So, Can He create such a huge stone which He Himself cannot pick-up"? Please ONLY "YES" or "NO" as per your own demand!!!
"Muhammad (pbuh) is not father amongst any of you men, but he is a messenger of Allah and Khatim ul Nabeeyen"
Surah Ahzaab 33: Ayah 19
And you must have forgotton the Hadith when Muhammad (pbuh) said : "There will be thirty liars in my Ummah, all will claim that they are Prophets even thou I am Khatim ul Nabeeyen, there is no prophet after me "
kh4n5 : Brother, I have not missed anything. We believe that Quran is perfect BUT remember that Prophet (saw) himself told that ""A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Quran except its inscription. Their mosques will be full but void of guidance. Their divines (Mullahs) will b the worst creatures under the sky; all the evil will b emerged from them and will revert to them."
Mushkat
At this time of Darkness A Messiah & Mahdi was 2 come.
kh4n5: We believe in all what Quran & Prophet (saw) said. The Prophet (saw) also said that "There will be NO Prophet between me & Jesus" Muslim
Thus despite 30 false Prophets ONE True subordinate Prophet was also to come. Allah has proved all the False Prophet false by destroying them & their movements while Allah helped the true one & spread his movement around the globe.
This is the distinguishing sign which separates the true from the False.
amayamani: Lifting-up by Allah means exaltation of spiritual status & not physical journey towards Allah. Allah is NOT limited in space like us so that one has to take a Physical journey to attain His nearness. Quran proves these meanings. Thus it says "If it had been Our will, We should have RAISED him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires." 7:176 This verse proves that those who follow their evil desires r not raised to Allah.
Human can NEVER become Allah in literal sense. But in allegorical sense Prophet (saw) said that ALLAH TOLD HIM that it could happen. Thus Prophet (saw) said, "Allah said, ..My slave keeps on coming closer to Me through performing Nawafil till I love him, so I become his ears with which he hears, and his eyes with which he sees, and his hand with which he grips, and his feet with which he walks'." {Bukhari}
But how can Mullah understand it because Allah NEVER Love them nor become closer to them.
Ahmadiyyat is not into Islam religion, its a new religion introduced by Mirza Ahmad...All Ahmadiyati are not Muslim...we can say Muratid...Do not Astry O people....Allah nay tum logo wisdom d hai socho aur bacho Ahmadiyyat say....Save yourself from Ahmadiyyat...its the way to Hell.
Jamshaid1985 : You are right that we (Ahmadi-Muslims) are Different from the rest of 72 Sects in Islam. So different that despite many in-fights all the 72 sects of Muslims united on this issue that they must differentiate us from all of them. Thus making it a case of 72 vs 1 and giving a verdict that ONLY Ahmadis are non-Muslims while all the other 72 sects are Muslim. But do you know that Prophet Muhammad's (saw) verdict given in this regard 1,400 years ago is just the opposite?
egjactlycool01: Allah has compelled the 72 sects to admit that they are on one side while they unanimously exasperated the ONE through their own hands. Thus ONE is distinguished from the rest of 72.
Brother, you are right that we should follow Quran & Sunnah. But do you know that in many Muslim countries Ahmadi-Muslims are prohibited to offer 5 times daily prayers & even to study Quran. In Pakistan Ahmadi-Muslim are facing severe persecution because of acting upon Quran & Sunnah.
egjactlycool01: We do believe that Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the Final Prophet. The Only difference is that we believe that Jesus (as) had survived crucifixion & later died natural death. And that the Messiah/Jesus to come among Ummah was to be from the followers of Muhammad (saw) who had already appeared.
amayamani: There is NO verse in Quran saying that "Allah raised-up Jesus ALIVE". Raising, going, migrating to Allah can ONLY be in spiritual sense. In Quran Quoting Prophet Ibraheem (as) Allah says that "And he said, `I am going to my Lord. HE will, surely, guide me.' 37:99. So did Prophet Ibraheem (as) used to Physically travell to Allah to receive guidance?
For Allah sake try to understand Quran & do not make it Myths & fairy tales.
There are Authentic narrations saying the Isa (as) will descend: ... I swear by Allah that the son of Maryam will certainly descend as a just judge (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0289)
Descend means to come down. I'm sure the Dude who mades myths and fairy tales (Ghulam Ahmed) didnt come from above.
kh4n5: U said that Hadith says that "Allah raised-up Jesus ALIVE". I asked you to present a single Hadith saying that he was raised-up "ALIVE". But you didn't.
Brother, descend (Nazool) does not necessarily mean to come flying down from skies. If it is so then following verses of Quran become false (naooz-billah)
1: O children of Adam! We have indeed SENT DOWN to you clothing to cover your shame.. 7:26
2: ..and he SENT DOWN for you eight head of cattle in pairs 39:6
kh4n5: Then in 40:13 Allah says that He SEND DOWN Rizq for you. Thus it says "He it is Who shows you His signs and SENDS DOWN for you sustenance from heaven" 40:13
Does all these things come flying down from skies? In all these verses of Quran same word "Nazool" is used in various forms.
Brother, the ARABIC WORD in the verse 40:13 is "RIZQ" which is translated as "Substance". So, do you ever see "Rizq" coming flying down from skies? Similarly, did you ever see clothing and cattle coming down flying from skies?
It proves that "Nazool" or descend/sending down when used in reference with Allah can't be taken physical or literal. Even the rain cannot come from heaven or sky. Rather, it comes from a height even lower than airplanes.
Brother, the ARABIC WORD in the verse 40:13 is "RIZQ" which is translated as "Substance". So, do you ever see "Rizq" coming flying down from skies? Similarly, did you ever see clothing and cattle coming down flying from skies?
It proves that "Nazool" or descend/sending down when used in reference with Allah can't be taken physical or literal. Even the rain cannot come from heaven or sky. Rather, it comes from a height even lower than airplanes.
palestiniansoldier02: Can you tell me that in which part of the world any Muslim is being punished/persecuted for reciting "Shahada", Reading Quran or offering 5 times daily prayers.
These are ONLY Ahmadi Muslims living in Pakistan which are persecuted for such reasons.
Hizbut Tahrir members get tortured the most out of everyone and there group is increasing everyday at a massive rate. Ahamadiyyas are not the only victims in the world. Pull the wool from your eyes. I can tell you a place in the world where you get persecuted for shahada, Quran, Salah: Guantanamo Bay, doesn't matter what type of muslim you are there.
brucelee2000: For concrete evidences of Hadrat Ahmad (as) to be Mahdi & Messiah please watch my video "Messiah & Mahdi has come". This documentary is available both in Urdu as well as in English.
Even in Guantanamo Bay the prisoners are legally allowed to recite Shahada, to offer 5 times prayers & to read Quran. But Ahmadi Muslims are deprived of their rights regarding acting upon Quranic teachings in Pakistan.
The Imam mahdi has already arrived? Do you study any hadith? The Mahdi will come at the end of times, and he will come at the same time as Isa (As) and Gog and Magog, did they appear yet? Also, any prophet that comes after the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is nothing more than a LIEING, DECIEVING, DAJJAL! He might not be the big dajjal that will come at the end of time, but he will be from the smaller 30 or so dajjals. Ahl al sunna wal jammah is the only saved sect.
palestiniansoldier02: Are the signs of Imam Mahdi not fulfilled? Type "Ahmadiyya - Messiah & Mahdi Has Come" at youtube search & watch this documentary either in English or Urdu where u will see famous non-Ahmadi Scholars admitting that "All the Signs of Mahdi have been fulfilled"
Did the majority ever accepted the appointed ones from Allah? Did Prophet Muhammad (saw) not warned that Muslims r going to repeat the mistakes as committed by Israelite?
You say the scholars said the all the signs of Imam Mahdi have been fulfilled. That does not mean that they said that Imam Mahdi has come. If he has prove it, evidence.
For concrete evidences of Hadrat Ahmad (as) to be Mahdi & Messiah please watch my video "Messiah & Mahdi has come". This documentary is available both in Urdu as well as in English.
scorpion0765: Mullahs belonging to 72 sects say that only Ahmadi Muslims are on wrong path & liars. Whereas the Prophet (saw) say that out of 73 ONLY ONE will be on right path while ALL OTHERS will be HELL-BOUND.
For you your Mullah's verdict & for us the verdict of our beloved Prophet (saw) declaring all 72 to be on wrong path & ONLY ONE on right path.
Ok, so you guys say there are 73 (or 74 sects, I can't remember which) and only one will represent the true Islam, then what about the fact that there are two different kinds of Ahmadis, the Ahmadiyya Movement and the Lahori Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam (Ahmadiyya Anjuman Isha'at-e-Islam Lahore)? Doesn't this push the number of sects up by one? Does it even matter who's right between you two, since both of your concurrent existences increases the number of sects by 1, going against the prophecy?
Clausen554 : 1- It is not that we say that ONLY ONE out of 73 sects is on Right Path Rather this was foretold by the Prophet (saw).
2-The Prophet (saw) who told that ONLY 1 out of 73 will be on Right Path also told the Signs of the 1 True Jamat
3-According to these signs a)The 1 True sects was to ba a "Jamat" i.e. a group having an Imam. b)The 1 True Jamat was to pass through similar persecutions as the Prophet & his companions.
Now both of above signs are fulfilled ONLY for Ahmadiyya Jamat.
Lahoris & other small groups Niether have an Imam nor they are persecuted as Ahmadi Muslims do. Remember that when Jews were divided into 72 sects then Jesus came & established 73 Jamat. It does not mean that the 73rd Jamat will ever remain intact and do not further split. But the true one can be from 73 rd Jamat & can NEVER be from 72 sects rejecting the Messiah of their time.
dawah1, that is actually a very good point, the fact that Lahoris don't have an Imam, or Khalifa. But I do think that crazy Mullah inspired fanatics don't care to differentiate between the two groups. Also, the Lahoris say they do have an Imam, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, and thus there is no need for khilafat since they accept him as the Messiah that was foretold, thus satisfying the Prophet's (saw) prophecy saying the one true sect will be a "Jamat" AND face persecution, because of my reasons above.
Clausen554: Important thing is that when Jews went astray & divided into 72 sects then God sent Jesus as Messiah who formed 73rd Jamat. After coming of Jesus those who rejected him and remained associated with any of 72 sects were hell bound. Same was to repeat in the ummah of Hadhrat Muhammad (saw). So, accept Promised Messiah first & dis-associate your self from the 72 hell bound sects. For groups within 73rd Jamat, it is secondary issue because from the perspective of Mullahs they r the same
OH MY GOD< this man said that the ahamadis boast over 200 billion followers! There are only 6 billion people in the world. So how in the world are they claiming 200 billion! I hope he said 200 million. If he did say 200 million, I don't believe that either, there aren't that many of ya'll.
Drvik360: We believe in 33:40 and we also believe in 4:69 which promise of Subordinate Prophet to come among the followers of Muhammad (saw). Where Allah says that "And whoso obeys ALLAH and this Messenger shall be among those on whom ALLAH has bestowed HIS blessings - the Prophets, the Truthful, the Martyrs, and the Righteous. And an excellent company are they."
It DOES NOT CLEARLY SAY ANOTHER PROPHET WILL COME NOR DOES IT DESCRIBE WHAT THE UMMAH WILL FACE DURNG BRITISH RULE ALSO YOUR SO CALLED MESSIAH HELPED THE BRITISH EMPIRE DID'NT HE
Drvik360: 4:69 clearly mentions the possibility of "SUBORDINATE PROPHET". Hadhrat Ahmad praises the good qualities of British while told them that the human which they are taking as God is dead and buried in a tomb in Kashmir.
Thus he spoke truth irrespective of how people will react to it. He praised those qualities of British Rule which were truly praise worthy. It was only Hadhrat Ahmad who dared to openly invited the Queen to accept Islam at that time.
It does not metion the word "SUBORDINATE PROPHET ALSO THE MESSIAH died of colera because if he was the messaih he would have from Damascus Jesus will come bcak at the end of time and he'll come when the ad dajjal (antichrist) so far no Mirza gulam is a fake claimed to be descendat of persia but goes back to mongul descendat.
Drvik360: 4:69 says that all spiritual status (including the blessing of Prophet-hood) will now be granted to ONLY THOSE who obey Allah & the messenger.
Keep on waiting for Jesus to descend from heaven - like Jews r waiting for the descend of Elijah. Ni ether Elijah descended from heaven nor will Jesus do so.
how dare you our prophet prohecised that Jesus will come back and destroy the antichrist our prophet pbuh last sermon says "No Prophet will come after me or any new religion" you are not a muslim and yet you have no proof to back up your so called prophet.
Drvik360 : Dear who was to come has already come. Jews rejected the true Messiah due to taking the prophecies too literally. Today Muslims are doing exactly the same thing.
Prophet Muhammad (saw) said that "No Prophet will come after me & no new faith will born after me". It means that no prophet with a NEW religion will ever come. Hadhrat Ahmad (as) has not brought any new religion ather he has come o revive the true spirit of Islam at the time when it was split into 73 sects.
Mirza said to a iman that you'll die before me but he died after Mirza and mirza said he willlive up to 80 and died at the at 68 years old your messiah is a liar and why do you call yourself ahmaddiya why not call yourselves Muslims you said no prophet will come after Mohammad and yet you say mirza is a prophet.
Drvik360 : The two allegations you raised are totally FALSE allegation & fabricated by the liar Mullahs. Both these FALSE allegations have been proved 100% fake at real-islam org . Don't you know that Jews (i.e. rejecters of previous Messiah) were also used to raise such false acquisitions against Jesus? This attitude of our opponents is another proof of their similarity with The Jews as also foretold by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) 1,400 years back.
Drvik360 : Replies are very much there for both the rejecters of Messiahs i.e. Jews and non-Ahmadi Muslims but both are found of raising such FALSE allegations against their Messiahs. And it should have been like this because the words of the Prophet (saw) was to come true and Muslims were to resemble Jews to the extent as one shoe resembles the other!
This amazing & undeniable similarity has been documented and can be watch with ones eyes in my video "Rejection of Messiah - By Jews By Muslims"
He is not the messiah if he was he would have helped Muslims get rid of the british oppression he did'nt did he he helped the british also if he was the world would have ended because it is prophecised that the messiah will come after the mahdi but he did'nt come also the antichrist never came so how is he Jesus
Drvik360 : Same thoughts same appoach as those Jews who still reject Jesus as Messiah. Just watch my video "Rejection of Messiah - By Jews By Muslims" & while watching the arguments of Jews against Jesus, you will feel as if you are looking at a mirror.
Are calling Prophet Mohammad pbuh a liar,the prophet said the messiah will come at the end times for a 100 years ahmaddiya never been succesfull do you get the message your wrong if your so called messiah was telling the truth ahmaddiya would be accepted
Drvik360: Is it not true that previous Messiah (i.e. Jesus) took 300 years to become victorious? Messianic movements spread through Peace, Love & Sacrifices thus it takes time to become victorious.
DAWAH1- I am a sunni muslim, i want to learn about Ahmadis before jusdging them. Will you please answer me questions that will hopefully make me understand about Ahmadiyas.
1. Do u pray differnt from sunnis
2. Do u read the Quran
3. Do u believe in the 5 pillers of Islam
4. What do you belive in about jesus
5.Basically what are the differnces between Sunnis and Ahmadiyas
hmiah262: We believe in & practice all 5 fundamentals of Islam. Rather today we are the only one who are facing severe persecution for doing so as once our beloved prophet (saw) and his companions did at the hands of non-believers of Mecca. Watch the documentary "Messiah Has Come" & you will be amazed to see facts which Mullahs are hiding from normal Muslims.
It's good that you decided to ask questions before judging us. I will try my best to answer your questions, if you feel that i have not answerd them fully, tell me so i can try and explain better.
1) We pray the same, just like how the Quran has thought us to pray.
2) Yes, we read and believe in the Quran.
3) Yes we believe in the 5 pillers of islam
- Shahadah -
- Salat - Praying 5 times a day
- Zakat - Donating a percentage of your wealth to charity
Thanks for doing some research of your own about Ahmadiyya before judging. I will try my best to answer all your questions and if you still feel confused, ask me again, and i well try to explain more, i cannot type alot on youtube comments so ill keep it brief.
1) We Pray the same, how the Quran tought us how to pray
4) We believe that Jesus(sa) is not sun of God, but is a messenger, he did not die on the cross and resurrect, we believe he travelled to Kashmir, and died of natural causes at.
5) The different is that we believe that the Imam Mandi has arrived already.
aslamo alaikom yes we do prayer 5 time aday.we read quran,we do 5 pillar. we blieve jesus.but we did not believ jesus is siting on the 7th sky.our believ he dai by naturuel deth.if you say jesus is siting on the sky.than your believ mean mohammad (pbuh)is not khatimun nabeyeen.urdu.prophet jesus ko wafaat dene ma he islam ki baka he.
Obviously no one can forget the Tsunami in Indonesia and in Pakistan when Mullah martyred 8 Ahmadis in Mandi Bahauddin Masjid on October 7 2005, the very next day Allah gifted them with Earthquake on October 8 2005 and everyone knows the death toll was more than 80,000. My request to all the non-ahmadis to come to the right path and leave those mullah's Islam and accept Hazrat Muhammad's (pbuh) Islam or otherwise be prepare for more Tsunamis and earthquakes.
ahmadiyat pr hamri jan fida he ....
ahmerton1 3 months ago
ahmadiyat is the best
sabih15 9 months ago
Jamaat Ahmadiya per hamri Jaan Maal Waqt Aulad sab Fida hai.
ijazahmad194 1 year ago 2
ahmadiyyat per hamri jan fida ha
zubairgermany2 1 year ago 5
and we are 73 sect
Ahmadiyyat zinda bad
pakistanigurl12 1 year ago 4
were divided into 72 sections but my people will be divided into 73 sections, all of them will be in the fire except one." The companions asked, 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "They are those who will be like me and my companions."
pakistanigurl12 1 year ago
Abdullah bin Amar (RA) relates that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said "Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites
pakistanigurl12 1 year ago
Ahmadis are exactly folowing the Sunnah
ash0470 1 year ago
Mubarik ho.... Kae hum us "Lailah tul Kadar" kae panae walae hain...
Alhamdolillah.
ModoodAhmadKhan 1 year ago
aoa im ahmadi and u guys dont even know what we are thinking of so stop sayin bad stuff about us....ahmadis are lucky and will stay forever YOU PEOPLE CAN DO NOTHIN BUT JUST ABUSE US which doesnot make any difference to us...
lovebirds620 1 year ago
regarding ur comment about 73 sects.
He also said that sect would be the largest of all sects. unfortunately ur sect(which is not a sect even,its a cult,leme know if u wana know why a cult) is no where near being the largest sect.
wamsluv 2 years ago
@wamsluv : Can you quote any Hadith which says that the 73rd sect will be the largest one? I challenge you to present such a Hadith. However, Prophet (saw) had clearly mentioned the sign of the ONE true sect as Similar to him & sahaba. We all know that non-believers of Mecca use to persecute the Prophet (saw) & his Sahabas (ra) for saying Kalima لا اله الا الله محمد رسول اللہ . Watch today who is persecuted for the same crime & at whom hand?
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dawah1 2 years ago
Mr. Dawah. I accept your challenge without asking any return except to RESEARCH BEFORE YOU MAKE A CHALLENGE.
The Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: Allah will never allow my Ummah to unite upon misguidance and incorrect beliefs. Allahs mercy, blessings and protection are with the largest group of Muslims. And he who deviates from this largest group of Muslims will be thrown into Hell. (Tirmizi)
wamsluv 2 years ago
@wamsluv : It is true that our BELOVED Prophet (saw) told us that ummmah is NOT going 2 unite on misguidance. But it is also true that he (saw) NEVER said that all the 72 sects will b on guidance while ONLY ONE will be misguided as today Mullah's belonging to all the 72 sects declare. Telling about the ONE on guidance Prophet (saw) has clearly said that "IT WILL BE THAT GROUP OF MUSLIMS WHICH WILL HAVE AN IMAM". i.e The one which will be great due to Imam & not merely large in number. UNDERSTOOD
dawah1 2 years ago
@wamsluv : About the 1which will be on the Right path our beloved Prophet (saw) clearly said that it will be having AN IMAM. So, Bukhari tells " I said, "What do you order me to do if such a state should take place in my life?" He said, "Stick to the group of Muslims and their IMAM." I said, "If there is neither a group of Muslims nor an IMAM?" He said, "Then turn away from all those sects even if you were to bite (eat) the roots of a tree till death overtakes you while you are in that state."
dawah1 2 years ago
so when it is about clearifying ur own point of view n u find 1 hadith in bukhari.its all about bukhari. otherwise u will talk about saha-e-sitta. u will even reject the authenticity when its about ur point of view. u will even reject authenticity when its about ur point of view.
i presented ahadith accepted by 4 of saha-e-sitta n u still reject it. u know what does it remind me. lemme quote it in the next msg.
wamsluv 2 years ago
@wamsluv : I am NOT denying any Hadith. Rather I am interpreting the Hadith you quoted in the Light of another Hadith Explained in detail in Sahaih Bukhari. Prophet (saw) had clearly told that
1) At the time of Split 72 sects will be misguided while only ONE will be on the Right Path. Whereas Mullahs belonging to 72 sects says totally OPPOSITE i.e declare ONLY ONE as different from them.
2) Prophet (saw) had pointed out the ONE on true path havinf IMAM amomg them
dawah1 2 years ago
@dawah1
OK this is my interpretation:
The 1 true jama'ah will be the largest in number n will strictly follow the sunnah of Muhammad SAW and follow sahaaba. n' they will have imam amongst them.
I think 4 canonic r quoting something different than Imam Bukhari. those 4 r more authentic than Imam bukhari cuz they r in 4 major canonic books.
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ur interpretation is wrong. cuz no matter what u do neither sunnism nor ahmadiyat is totally opposite to Islam.
its written so clealrly n stil u reject
wamsluv 2 years ago
@wamsluv : There are HUNDREDS of Ahadith telling about an IMAM appointed by Allah to come when Mullahs were to distort & split Islam into 72 sects. At that time ONLY THE GROUP FORMED BY IMAM APPOINTED BY ALLAH WILL BE TRUE AND NOT ANYONE ELSE.
However, can you name the largest group which is ONLY on right path in your opinion?
dawah1 2 years ago
Holy Prophet SAW said: "The group on the right path, which will enter Paradise, will be the group which follows my Sunna and that of my Sahaba and this will be the largest group of Muslims." [Tirmizi, Imam Ahmad, Abu Daud, Mishkat]
The holy Prophet(Sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said " He who deviates from the largest group of Muslims, even as much as a hand span, has himself cut off his connection with Islam." [Abu Daud, Imam Ahmed]
wamsluv 2 years ago
@wamsluv : The group that will be rightly guided will be a GREAT ONE HAVING AN IMAM & NOT HUGE PEOPLE SCATTERED LIKE SHEEP WITHOUT ANY IMAM. This is what the MOST AUTHENTIC HADITH i.e SAHAIH BUKHARI TELLS US {Ref: Volume 9, Book 88, Number 206: }
dawah1 2 years ago
You will still not accept it. I know how you Ahmadis are. but u lost the challenge. I presented many ahaadeeth. n if u have enough courage allow my comments.
wamsluv 2 years ago
@wamsluv : I have presented Bukhari explaining the other similar Ahadith regarding the ONE rightly guided. And it tells that it will be the group HAVING AN IMAM.
You people neither have Imam nor you have the courage to declare ALL sects EXCEPT Yours as Misguided. Rather you all join hands to distinguish Ahmadi-Muslims as something different from you 72 sects.
dawah1 2 years ago
mirza sure helped out the muslims a lot, things have gotten os much better since he died, we lost the ottoman caliphate, palestine and we are persecuted from the us to china. Muhammad pbug said that muslims will have prophethood, then guided khilafa (4 caliphs) then long lasting kingdoms like the abbasids, ottomans ect.. then military rule then khilafa again. mirza was over 100 years early i guess
nasserthepalestinian 2 years ago
So many kinds of Islam.
We western poeple are very confused and scared of Islam.
Trust that your peaceful and no-violence islam will prevale.
I think we will have a bloddy era in this century about religion unfortunately.
listo888 2 years ago
listo888: It is a norm that after every Prophet as time laps people become corrupt and change the understanding of religion to suit their wishes. This is the reason that God always keeps on sending Prophets. Same was to happen with Islam as foretold by Prophet Muhammad (saw). He foretold that "A time will come when nothing will be left of Islam EXCEPT its name..., The Mullahs of that time will be the WORST CREATURES on earth - all the evil will be emerged from them & will revert to them"
dawah1 2 years ago
listo888: Islam-Ahmadiyya is Messianic movement in Islam. Its purpose is to revive the Faith to its true spirit which is LOVE, Forgiveness & Sacrifices for others. But the Mullahs belonging to 72 sects have declared us Non-Muslim. Perhaps because our Islam is truly Peaceful as against their Islam of terrorism & violence.
dawah1 2 years ago
"There will be thirty liars in my Ummah, each of them claiming to be a Prophet,
but I am the Khatam-un-Nabiyeen, there is NO Prophet after me."
(Sunan Abu Daud)
The words used here is La Nabiiyan Ba'dee. When the word La apears and the after it ends with in the state of Fatha, it meens there is absolutely no type of the second word(with emphasis), including subordinates etc. In this situation the word Nabiy is maftooh and the word before is a La meening the clown of Qadian was NOT a nabi.
kh4n5 2 years ago
Quran tells us that Jews had the habit of showing some verses while hide others. The Prophet (saw) had foretold that 72 out of 73 sects are going to EXACTLY resemble the 72 sects of Jews. Thus today Mullahs also show & overemphasize the Hadith about False Prophets while hide the Hadith of a subordinate Prophet mentioned under the title of Jesus & Messiah.
Don't you know that in same Abu Dawood there is also a Hadith saying "There will be NO Prophet Betweem me & Jesus & soon he will descend"
dawah1 2 years ago
la nabia badi mean there is no sharia nabi after holy prophet,then what do u say about jesus he was not nabi how can u beleive he will come back after 2000 years,when quran clrerly says in sura anmbia ver35,to holy prophet,that we have not created any humen brfore you who has given forever life and is it posssible that oh mohammed they remain alive and you will passed away.
97nad 2 years ago
Promising subordinate Prophet Allah says that "And whoso obeys ALLAH and this Messenger shall be among those on whom ALLAH has bestowed HIS blessings - the Prophets, the Truthful, the Martyrs, and the Righteous.." 4:69
Then speaking of future Prophet Allah says "O ye Children of Adam! whenever there come to you apostles from amongst you, rehearsing My signs unto you,- those who are righteous and mend (their lives),- on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve." 7:35
dawah1 2 years ago
The tribe of Israel was guided by prophets. When a prophet passed away, another prophet succeeded him. But no prophet will come after me; only caliphs will succeed me.
(Bukhari)
kh4n5 2 years ago
kh4n5 : There will be NO Prophet Between Me & Jesus - and soon he will descend among you" Abu Dawood. Thus there was to NO Prophet just after the Prophet (saw) but the one who was to come in Islam under the title of Jesus & Messiah was certainly to be a Prophet - but a subordinate one.
Mullahs accept some saying of the Prophet (saw) while Rejects others.
dawah1 2 years ago
No Prophet will come after me and there will, therefore, be no other community of followers of any new Prophet.
(Baihaqi, Tabarani)
kh4n5 2 years ago
kh4n5: We (Ahmadi Muslims) believe in in the hadith you quoted. This Hadith is clearly saying that NO such Prophet can come after Muhammad (saw) who can create a new ummah (community). It means that whoever will come he will come without a new teaching & as subordinate to Muhammad thus will not create a new ummah.
What about a Hadith which refers the Messiah to come among Muslims as PROPHET OF ALLAH 4 TIMES?
dawah1 2 years ago
We are the LAST (ummah) but will precede all on the Day of Resurrection except that the Book was given to them before us.
(Bukhari, Muslim)
kh4n5 2 years ago
kh4n5: Yes. we are the Last Ummah because the one who was to come under the title of Jesus & Messiah was to come as a subordinate Prophet without a new Shariyah. Thus he was not to form a new religion or new ummah.
dawah1 2 years ago
can any Qadyani tell me : is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadyani Prophet / Nabi / rasool of Allah ?? yes or no pls..
Ahletashie 2 years ago
Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian was a Subordinate Prophet - Subordinate to Muhammad (saw). He was same Messiah & Mahdi who was to come.
Human flying to Allah & physically living there thousands of years and coming back flying down from skies are just childish stories & myths that NEVER happened in the past NOR it will EVER happen in the future.
Keep on waiting for Jesus (as) to return flying down from skies without space Shuttle as Jews r doing for Elijah. But it will NEVER happen.
dawah1 2 years ago
say YES -- OR -- NO-- mirza ghulam ahmad was Nabi--Prophet--- Rasool of Allah ?? Yes or No --- I know that Qadyni will never answer this Question in very clear way and they will run away ... tell me -- Mirza was Nabi of Allah ???
Ahletashie 2 years ago
Ahletashie: There are several questions which cannot be answered simply by "YES" or "NO".
Can you answer simply in "YES" or "NO" to the following question usually raised by Atheist?
Q: "Quran says that Allah is All Powerful - So Can He create another Allah exactly same as He Himself "?
Try to answer this question in Simple "Yes" or "No" before demanding me the same.
dawah1 2 years ago
Yes he can do anything. But he will not.
kh4n5 2 years ago
kh4n5 : Yes, Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian was a Prophet but a subordinate one - subordinate to Muhammad (saw). And he came without a new teaching & to revive the lost spirit of Quran.
dawah1 2 years ago
Ahletashie: Try to answer following question of Athiests in Simple "Yes" or "NO"
Q: quran tells us that Allah is All Powerful - So, Can He create such a huge stone which He Himself cannot pick-up"? Please ONLY "YES" or "NO" as per your own demand!!!
dawah1 2 years ago
My Question was simple .. just say yes or no ::: Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadyani was Prophet :: Nabi of Allah ?? say yes or no
Ahletashie 2 years ago
Ahletashie: Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian was the same Messiah who was to come as a "Subordinate Prophet - Subordinate to Muhammad (saw)
There are several questions which cannot be answered simply by "YES" or "NO".
Can you answer simply in "YES" or "NO" to the following question usually raised by Atheist?
Q: "Quran says that Allah is All Powerful - So Can He create another Allah exactly same as He Himself "?
Try to answer this question in Simple "Yes" or "No" before demanding me the same.
dawah1 2 years ago
Well you must have missed out these verses:
"Today I have completed your Deen"
Surah Maida 5: Ayah 3
"Muhammad (pbuh) is not father amongst any of you men, but he is a messenger of Allah and Khatim ul Nabeeyen"
Surah Ahzaab 33: Ayah 19
And you must have forgotton the Hadith when Muhammad (pbuh) said : "There will be thirty liars in my Ummah, all will claim that they are Prophets even thou I am Khatim ul Nabeeyen, there is no prophet after me "
[declared Sahih by Imam Tirmizi]
kh4n5 2 years ago
kh4n5 : Brother, I have not missed anything. We believe that Quran is perfect BUT remember that Prophet (saw) himself told that ""A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Quran except its inscription. Their mosques will be full but void of guidance. Their divines (Mullahs) will b the worst creatures under the sky; all the evil will b emerged from them and will revert to them."
Mushkat
At this time of Darkness A Messiah & Mahdi was 2 come.
dawah1 2 years ago
kh4n5: We believe in all what Quran & Prophet (saw) said. The Prophet (saw) also said that "There will be NO Prophet between me & Jesus" Muslim
Thus despite 30 false Prophets ONE True subordinate Prophet was also to come. Allah has proved all the False Prophet false by destroying them & their movements while Allah helped the true one & spread his movement around the globe.
This is the distinguishing sign which separates the true from the False.
dawah1 2 years ago
dawah1,, how can you say Jesus died when
the holy Quran says that Allah ''swt" lifted him to
the havens, or dont you believe in ALL of the
Quran
amayamani 2 years ago
amayamani: Lifting-up by Allah means exaltation of spiritual status & not physical journey towards Allah. Allah is NOT limited in space like us so that one has to take a Physical journey to attain His nearness. Quran proves these meanings. Thus it says "If it had been Our will, We should have RAISED him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires." 7:176 This verse proves that those who follow their evil desires r not raised to Allah.
dawah1 2 years ago
may allah give them hadyah
23sfrb 2 years ago
Islam Ahmadiyyat Zindabad, Khilafat Ahmadiyyat Zindabad.
khalid2saeed 2 years ago 2
Mirza is God
"I saw in one of my vision that I myself am God and believed that I am Him." (Kitab-ul-Bariayh, Roohani Khazain vol. 3 p.103)
Now the Question should be, Why are you Qadianis accepting Mirza Ghulam as a Messiah, When he has claimed to be God ?
Do you people accept his claims, or do you follow him in some and reject him in others ?
ShaitanIZBack 2 years ago
Human can NEVER become Allah in literal sense. But in allegorical sense Prophet (saw) said that ALLAH TOLD HIM that it could happen. Thus Prophet (saw) said, "Allah said, ..My slave keeps on coming closer to Me through performing Nawafil till I love him, so I become his ears with which he hears, and his eyes with which he sees, and his hand with which he grips, and his feet with which he walks'." {Bukhari}
But how can Mullah understand it because Allah NEVER Love them nor become closer to them.
dawah1 2 years ago
Mr. Shaitanizback....I dont need to say anything. Your Name says it all.
ChicagoAhmadiyya 2 years ago
Ahmadiyyat is not into Islam religion, its a new religion introduced by Mirza Ahmad...All Ahmadiyati are not Muslim...we can say Muratid...Do not Astry O people....Allah nay tum logo wisdom d hai socho aur bacho Ahmadiyyat say....Save yourself from Ahmadiyyat...its the way to Hell.
Jamshaid1985 2 years ago
Jamshaid1985 : You are right that we (Ahmadi-Muslims) are Different from the rest of 72 Sects in Islam. So different that despite many in-fights all the 72 sects of Muslims united on this issue that they must differentiate us from all of them. Thus making it a case of 72 vs 1 and giving a verdict that ONLY Ahmadis are non-Muslims while all the other 72 sects are Muslim. But do you know that Prophet Muhammad's (saw) verdict given in this regard 1,400 years ago is just the opposite?
dawah1 2 years ago
Jamshaid1985: According the the Prophet's (saw) verdict ONLY ONE out of 73 sects was to be on Right Path while all other 72 sects was to on Hell-Path.
Dear, it is upto you either to follow Mullah's verdict or the Prophet's (saw) verdict!
dawah1 2 years ago
yes exactly, but no one knows which sect is on right path.
you need to follow Quran and Sunnah and believe Muhammed Sallelahu alaihi wasallam was the last messenger of Allah.
so does Ahmadiyya believe Mohammed Sallelahu alaihi wa sallam to be last Messenger of Allah?
I don't thinks so.
egjactlycool01 2 years ago
egjactlycool01: Allah has compelled the 72 sects to admit that they are on one side while they unanimously exasperated the ONE through their own hands. Thus ONE is distinguished from the rest of 72.
Brother, you are right that we should follow Quran & Sunnah. But do you know that in many Muslim countries Ahmadi-Muslims are prohibited to offer 5 times daily prayers & even to study Quran. In Pakistan Ahmadi-Muslim are facing severe persecution because of acting upon Quran & Sunnah.
dawah1 2 years ago
egjactlycool01: We do believe that Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the Final Prophet. The Only difference is that we believe that Jesus (as) had survived crucifixion & later died natural death. And that the Messiah/Jesus to come among Ummah was to be from the followers of Muhammad (saw) who had already appeared.
dawah1 2 years ago
how can you believe that Jesus died a natural death when the holy Quran says that Allah swt
lifted him to the heavens alive
amayamani 2 years ago
amayamani: There is NO verse in Quran saying that "Allah raised-up Jesus ALIVE". Raising, going, migrating to Allah can ONLY be in spiritual sense. In Quran Quoting Prophet Ibraheem (as) Allah says that "And he said, `I am going to my Lord. HE will, surely, guide me.' 37:99. So did Prophet Ibraheem (as) used to Physically travell to Allah to receive guidance?
For Allah sake try to understand Quran & do not make it Myths & fairy tales.
dawah1 2 years ago
There are Authentic narrations saying the Isa (as) will descend: ... I swear by Allah that the son of Maryam will certainly descend as a just judge (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0289)
Descend means to come down. I'm sure the Dude who mades myths and fairy tales (Ghulam Ahmed) didnt come from above.
kh4n5 2 years ago
kh4n5: U said that Hadith says that "Allah raised-up Jesus ALIVE". I asked you to present a single Hadith saying that he was raised-up "ALIVE". But you didn't.
Brother, descend (Nazool) does not necessarily mean to come flying down from skies. If it is so then following verses of Quran become false (naooz-billah)
1: O children of Adam! We have indeed SENT DOWN to you clothing to cover your shame.. 7:26
2: ..and he SENT DOWN for you eight head of cattle in pairs 39:6
dawah1 2 years ago
kh4n5: Then in 40:13 Allah says that He SEND DOWN Rizq for you. Thus it says "He it is Who shows you His signs and SENDS DOWN for you sustenance from heaven" 40:13
Does all these things come flying down from skies? In all these verses of Quran same word "Nazool" is used in various forms.
dawah1 2 years ago
but did he ever use 'send down' for a human. and even if he did send down sustenance, the rain in a sort of sustenance.
kh4n5 2 years ago
Brother, the ARABIC WORD in the verse 40:13 is "RIZQ" which is translated as "Substance". So, do you ever see "Rizq" coming flying down from skies? Similarly, did you ever see clothing and cattle coming down flying from skies?
It proves that "Nazool" or descend/sending down when used in reference with Allah can't be taken physical or literal. Even the rain cannot come from heaven or sky. Rather, it comes from a height even lower than airplanes.
dawah1 2 years ago
Brother, the ARABIC WORD in the verse 40:13 is "RIZQ" which is translated as "Substance". So, do you ever see "Rizq" coming flying down from skies? Similarly, did you ever see clothing and cattle coming down flying from skies?
It proves that "Nazool" or descend/sending down when used in reference with Allah can't be taken physical or literal. Even the rain cannot come from heaven or sky. Rather, it comes from a height even lower than airplanes.
dawah1 2 years ago
THEY R NOT MUSLIMS!
rizzi2007 2 years ago
Who do YOU think you Are To Judge Whose Muslim Or Not...Idiot...;-)
RealAhmadiyyat 2 years ago 2
let them do what they wanna do allah will judge us on judge ment day
23sfrb 2 years ago
i really feel sorry for my muslim brothers and sisters whom call and mark themselves other than just a MUSLIM.
may Allah (s) guild us all.
peace
beachman007 3 years ago
im planning on making a Nice video like this...Mashallah yours is Beautiul.
RealAhmadiyyat 3 years ago
All Muslims face persecution, not his devieving "Ahmadiyya" sect!
palestiniansoldier02 3 years ago
palestiniansoldier02: Can you tell me that in which part of the world any Muslim is being punished/persecuted for reciting "Shahada", Reading Quran or offering 5 times daily prayers.
These are ONLY Ahmadi Muslims living in Pakistan which are persecuted for such reasons.
dawah1 3 years ago
Hizbut Tahrir members get tortured the most out of everyone and there group is increasing everyday at a massive rate. Ahamadiyyas are not the only victims in the world. Pull the wool from your eyes. I can tell you a place in the world where you get persecuted for shahada, Quran, Salah: Guantanamo Bay, doesn't matter what type of muslim you are there.
brucelee2000 2 years ago
brucelee2000: For concrete evidences of Hadrat Ahmad (as) to be Mahdi & Messiah please watch my video "Messiah & Mahdi has come". This documentary is available both in Urdu as well as in English.
Even in Guantanamo Bay the prisoners are legally allowed to recite Shahada, to offer 5 times prayers & to read Quran. But Ahmadi Muslims are deprived of their rights regarding acting upon Quranic teachings in Pakistan.
dawah1 2 years ago
The Imam mahdi has already arrived? Do you study any hadith? The Mahdi will come at the end of times, and he will come at the same time as Isa (As) and Gog and Magog, did they appear yet? Also, any prophet that comes after the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is nothing more than a LIEING, DECIEVING, DAJJAL! He might not be the big dajjal that will come at the end of time, but he will be from the smaller 30 or so dajjals. Ahl al sunna wal jammah is the only saved sect.
palestiniansoldier02 3 years ago
palestiniansoldier02: Are the signs of Imam Mahdi not fulfilled? Type "Ahmadiyya - Messiah & Mahdi Has Come" at youtube search & watch this documentary either in English or Urdu where u will see famous non-Ahmadi Scholars admitting that "All the Signs of Mahdi have been fulfilled"
Did the majority ever accepted the appointed ones from Allah? Did Prophet Muhammad (saw) not warned that Muslims r going to repeat the mistakes as committed by Israelite?
dawah1 3 years ago
You say the scholars said the all the signs of Imam Mahdi have been fulfilled. That does not mean that they said that Imam Mahdi has come. If he has prove it, evidence.
brucelee2000 2 years ago
For concrete evidences of Hadrat Ahmad (as) to be Mahdi & Messiah please watch my video "Messiah & Mahdi has come". This documentary is available both in Urdu as well as in English.
dawah1 2 years ago
ahmadis are all liars
scorpion0765 3 years ago
scorpion0765: Mullahs belonging to 72 sects say that only Ahmadi Muslims are on wrong path & liars. Whereas the Prophet (saw) say that out of 73 ONLY ONE will be on right path while ALL OTHERS will be HELL-BOUND.
For you your Mullah's verdict & for us the verdict of our beloved Prophet (saw) declaring all 72 to be on wrong path & ONLY ONE on right path.
dawah1 3 years ago
Ok, so you guys say there are 73 (or 74 sects, I can't remember which) and only one will represent the true Islam, then what about the fact that there are two different kinds of Ahmadis, the Ahmadiyya Movement and the Lahori Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam (Ahmadiyya Anjuman Isha'at-e-Islam Lahore)? Doesn't this push the number of sects up by one? Does it even matter who's right between you two, since both of your concurrent existences increases the number of sects by 1, going against the prophecy?
Clausen554 3 years ago
Clausen554 : 1- It is not that we say that ONLY ONE out of 73 sects is on Right Path Rather this was foretold by the Prophet (saw).
2-The Prophet (saw) who told that ONLY 1 out of 73 will be on Right Path also told the Signs of the 1 True Jamat
3-According to these signs a)The 1 True sects was to ba a "Jamat" i.e. a group having an Imam. b)The 1 True Jamat was to pass through similar persecutions as the Prophet & his companions.
Now both of above signs are fulfilled ONLY for Ahmadiyya Jamat.
dawah1 3 years ago
Lahoris & other small groups Niether have an Imam nor they are persecuted as Ahmadi Muslims do. Remember that when Jews were divided into 72 sects then Jesus came & established 73 Jamat. It does not mean that the 73rd Jamat will ever remain intact and do not further split. But the true one can be from 73 rd Jamat & can NEVER be from 72 sects rejecting the Messiah of their time.
dawah1 3 years ago
dawah1, that is actually a very good point, the fact that Lahoris don't have an Imam, or Khalifa. But I do think that crazy Mullah inspired fanatics don't care to differentiate between the two groups. Also, the Lahoris say they do have an Imam, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, and thus there is no need for khilafat since they accept him as the Messiah that was foretold, thus satisfying the Prophet's (saw) prophecy saying the one true sect will be a "Jamat" AND face persecution, because of my reasons above.
Clausen554 3 years ago
Clausen554: Important thing is that when Jews went astray & divided into 72 sects then God sent Jesus as Messiah who formed 73rd Jamat. After coming of Jesus those who rejected him and remained associated with any of 72 sects were hell bound. Same was to repeat in the ummah of Hadhrat Muhammad (saw). So, accept Promised Messiah first & dis-associate your self from the 72 hell bound sects. For groups within 73rd Jamat, it is secondary issue because from the perspective of Mullahs they r the same
dawah1 3 years ago
what world do you live in all muslims are being persecuted. being called terrorists and are victims of racism on a daily basis
JuicYouS 3 years ago
do u put someone else above the prophet MUHAMMAD(saw)?
KucingKayap 3 years ago
OH MY GOD< this man said that the ahamadis boast over 200 billion followers! There are only 6 billion people in the world. So how in the world are they claiming 200 billion! I hope he said 200 million. If he did say 200 million, I don't believe that either, there aren't that many of ya'll.
basiraashley 3 years ago
Damn in Surah azhab ch.33 verse 40 "MOHAMMAD PBUH NOT ANY FATHER OF ANY MEN AND A SEAL OF PROPHETS".
Drvik360 3 years ago
Drvik360: We believe in 33:40 and we also believe in 4:69 which promise of Subordinate Prophet to come among the followers of Muhammad (saw). Where Allah says that "And whoso obeys ALLAH and this Messenger shall be among those on whom ALLAH has bestowed HIS blessings - the Prophets, the Truthful, the Martyrs, and the Righteous. And an excellent company are they."
dawah1 3 years ago
It DOES NOT CLEARLY SAY ANOTHER PROPHET WILL COME NOR DOES IT DESCRIBE WHAT THE UMMAH WILL FACE DURNG BRITISH RULE ALSO YOUR SO CALLED MESSIAH HELPED THE BRITISH EMPIRE DID'NT HE
Drvik360 3 years ago
Drvik360: 4:69 clearly mentions the possibility of "SUBORDINATE PROPHET". Hadhrat Ahmad praises the good qualities of British while told them that the human which they are taking as God is dead and buried in a tomb in Kashmir.
Thus he spoke truth irrespective of how people will react to it. He praised those qualities of British Rule which were truly praise worthy. It was only Hadhrat Ahmad who dared to openly invited the Queen to accept Islam at that time.
dawah1 3 years ago
It does not metion the word "SUBORDINATE PROPHET ALSO THE MESSIAH died of colera because if he was the messaih he would have from Damascus Jesus will come bcak at the end of time and he'll come when the ad dajjal (antichrist) so far no Mirza gulam is a fake claimed to be descendat of persia but goes back to mongul descendat.
Drvik360 3 years ago
Drvik360: 4:69 says that all spiritual status (including the blessing of Prophet-hood) will now be granted to ONLY THOSE who obey Allah & the messenger.
Keep on waiting for Jesus to descend from heaven - like Jews r waiting for the descend of Elijah. Ni ether Elijah descended from heaven nor will Jesus do so.
dawah1 3 years ago
how dare you our prophet prohecised that Jesus will come back and destroy the antichrist our prophet pbuh last sermon says "No Prophet will come after me or any new religion" you are not a muslim and yet you have no proof to back up your so called prophet.
Drvik360 3 years ago
Drvik360 : Dear who was to come has already come. Jews rejected the true Messiah due to taking the prophecies too literally. Today Muslims are doing exactly the same thing.
Prophet Muhammad (saw) said that "No Prophet will come after me & no new faith will born after me". It means that no prophet with a NEW religion will ever come. Hadhrat Ahmad (as) has not brought any new religion ather he has come o revive the true spirit of Islam at the time when it was split into 73 sects.
dawah1 3 years ago
Mirza said to a iman that you'll die before me but he died after Mirza and mirza said he willlive up to 80 and died at the at 68 years old your messiah is a liar and why do you call yourself ahmaddiya why not call yourselves Muslims you said no prophet will come after Mohammad and yet you say mirza is a prophet.
Drvik360 3 years ago
Drvik360 : The two allegations you raised are totally FALSE allegation & fabricated by the liar Mullahs. Both these FALSE allegations have been proved 100% fake at real-islam org . Don't you know that Jews (i.e. rejecters of previous Messiah) were also used to raise such false acquisitions against Jesus? This attitude of our opponents is another proof of their similarity with The Jews as also foretold by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) 1,400 years back.
dawah1 3 years ago
Do you have any reply for me
Drvik360 3 years ago
Drvik360 : Replies are very much there for both the rejecters of Messiahs i.e. Jews and non-Ahmadi Muslims but both are found of raising such FALSE allegations against their Messiahs. And it should have been like this because the words of the Prophet (saw) was to come true and Muslims were to resemble Jews to the extent as one shoe resembles the other!
This amazing & undeniable similarity has been documented and can be watch with ones eyes in my video "Rejection of Messiah - By Jews By Muslims"
dawah1 3 years ago
He is not the messiah if he was he would have helped Muslims get rid of the british oppression he did'nt did he he helped the british also if he was the world would have ended because it is prophecised that the messiah will come after the mahdi but he did'nt come also the antichrist never came so how is he Jesus
Drvik360 3 years ago
Drvik360 : Same thoughts same appoach as those Jews who still reject Jesus as Messiah. Just watch my video "Rejection of Messiah - By Jews By Muslims" & while watching the arguments of Jews against Jesus, you will feel as if you are looking at a mirror.
dawah1 3 years ago
Are calling Prophet Mohammad pbuh a liar,the prophet said the messiah will come at the end times for a 100 years ahmaddiya never been succesfull do you get the message your wrong if your so called messiah was telling the truth ahmaddiya would be accepted
Drvik360 3 years ago
Drvik360: Is it not true that previous Messiah (i.e. Jesus) took 300 years to become victorious? Messianic movements spread through Peace, Love & Sacrifices thus it takes time to become victorious.
dawah1 3 years ago
DAWAH1- I am a sunni muslim, i want to learn about Ahmadis before jusdging them. Will you please answer me questions that will hopefully make me understand about Ahmadiyas.
1. Do u pray differnt from sunnis
2. Do u read the Quran
3. Do u believe in the 5 pillers of Islam
4. What do you belive in about jesus
5.Basically what are the differnces between Sunnis and Ahmadiyas
hmiah262 3 years ago
hmiah262: We believe in & practice all 5 fundamentals of Islam. Rather today we are the only one who are facing severe persecution for doing so as once our beloved prophet (saw) and his companions did at the hands of non-believers of Mecca. Watch the documentary "Messiah Has Come" & you will be amazed to see facts which Mullahs are hiding from normal Muslims.
dawah1 3 years ago
It's good that you decided to ask questions before judging us. I will try my best to answer your questions, if you feel that i have not answerd them fully, tell me so i can try and explain better.
1) We pray the same, just like how the Quran has thought us to pray.
2) Yes, we read and believe in the Quran.
3) Yes we believe in the 5 pillers of islam
- Shahadah -
- Salat - Praying 5 times a day
- Zakat - Donating a percentage of your wealth to charity
- sawm - fasting
EliteHunting 3 years ago
Thanks for doing some research of your own about Ahmadiyya before judging. I will try my best to answer all your questions and if you still feel confused, ask me again, and i well try to explain more, i cannot type alot on youtube comments so ill keep it brief.
1) We Pray the same, how the Quran tought us how to pray
2) yes we read and believe in the Quran
3) Yes we believe in the 5 pillers.
EliteHunting 3 years ago
4) We believe that Jesus(sa) is not sun of God, but is a messenger, he did not die on the cross and resurrect, we believe he travelled to Kashmir, and died of natural causes at.
5) The different is that we believe that the Imam Mandi has arrived already.
EliteHunting 3 years ago
aslamo alaikom yes we do prayer 5 time aday.we read quran,we do 5 pillar. we blieve jesus.but we did not believ jesus is siting on the 7th sky.our believ he dai by naturuel deth.if you say jesus is siting on the sky.than your believ mean mohammad (pbuh)is not khatimun nabeyeen.urdu.prophet jesus ko wafaat dene ma he islam ki baka he.
dwdahmad 3 years ago
Ans 1: NO
Ans 2 : Yes. the same Quran that you read
Ans3: yes we do
Ans 4: He was a prophet just like all other prophets who came and gave Allah's msg and died
Ans5: No difference excpet we believe tht Hazrat Esa died as Quran says
luqi286 3 years ago
surely he was a habibullah a true man of god he was my khalifa.
islamiminaar 4 years ago 4
Obviously no one can forget the Tsunami in Indonesia and in Pakistan when Mullah martyred 8 Ahmadis in Mandi Bahauddin Masjid on October 7 2005, the very next day Allah gifted them with Earthquake on October 8 2005 and everyone knows the death toll was more than 80,000. My request to all the non-ahmadis to come to the right path and leave those mullah's Islam and accept Hazrat Muhammad's (pbuh) Islam or otherwise be prepare for more Tsunamis and earthquakes.
feeziman007 4 years ago
I totally agree, also Huzur Aqdas said in his Friday Sermons that the world should expect more earthquakes ad natural disasters
vipdelta 4 years ago
can anybody tell me the date of this friday sermon ?
OvenHot 4 years ago
very nice video, Ahmadiyat Zindabaad
coralsnakes 4 years ago 3