look, you people obviously have no idea what you're talking about. as i've stated previously i've worked in aviation nearly my entire life. i've investigated failures, crashes and crash sites. all of the evidence i have seen to date is consistent with jet liners causing the collapse of two buildings designed to be able to absorb the impact of an aircraft of around half the weight of those used. i'm not a fan of the things bush did do, but let's face this was a bit far out of his league folks.
@vendetta81 That is outright horseshit. Geeze man, even pilots are saying it is horseshit! What. Do they obviously have no idea what they are talking about?
If like you said the plane did the damage than it would not fall semetrically straight down. Especially the first tower to fall. It would have been to its weakened side and slid off the building. Unless you have some explaination how a building struck to the outside of the core columns could fall straight down? Both falls look the same.
Regardless of what you claim fire can do to steel, vendetta, it would NOT pulverize all the concrete to dust. How is it people were hanging out of windows in proximity to fires, if they were so hot? I guess we will have to wait for the next false flag before the ostriches pull their heads out of the sand...but I'm not sure if that will do the trick!
has anyone ever heard of air pressure? The massive amounts of weight and pressure on the lower floors of the building from those above cause massive amounts of air to be forced downward. That air and dust had nowhere else to go but out through the windows, which is what you witnessed, not explosions.
i doubt that greyish dust, which looks exactly like demolition squibs, is "air pressure" and it wouldnt come out only a few windows and so far below the collapsing area..thats like 25-30 floors. many witnesses report bomb like explosions after the crash and some even just before. See WTC worker willie rodriguez who reported bombs in the basement well before the plane hit. seismic data backs up his story.
besides the other holes in your theory there's one glaring problem, demolition teams take months to prep and rig even 60 story buildings for implosion. don't you think SOMEBODY would have noticed all these demo teams rigging the steel pylons (wrapped in concrete, which btw is the dust you see shooting out the windows from a million pounds of building falling on them) on every floor, in both towers, for months up to the day it happened?
that's weak defense. this (considering the conspiracy's possability) was a top secret operation. nothing was stopping the perps from using the most advanced equipment they had. equipment that is not yet known (most likely) even to experts in the field.
Even with your defense, you can't explain why the tower fell so fast, or why it fell at all, without considering that explosives were used.
how is it weak exactly? i work in aviation and know just how much energy an aircraft can transfer to an object when it hits it, and if there is someone out there creating magical new substances capable of (in small quantities) bringing down large buildings then who's developing it and for whom are they developing it for if not the experts in the field? and yes, i can explain why the fell so fast but i don't have enough characters, time or inclination to do so, the math is simple, look it up.
you work in aviation, so you should know: the government hides things from us. lots of things. there have been dark aircraft since the 1950's (probly earlier), and only recently have people spotted strange aircraft suspected to be the latter. they haven't even released information on them (as far as i know). this is to vendetta81, who commented on my message. i said that cause for some reason, when i've been replying, it gets put at the top.
josh, as a side note, thank you for discussing this with me, and not insulting me like the dingus above.
people have been seeing lights in the sky for thousands of years, i'm one of them, doesn't mean our government is doing it, but since the 50's people have seen alot of things done by the government that they couldn't explain a great example is the u-2 which now has most of it's specs and capabilities very well known now. missiles like the v-2 tested in the states after ww2 are good too
Wow, but I'm not quite sure that the fire on the Madrid building wasn't caused by an impact, right? It wasn't just the fire that caused both towers to collapse, it was the damage caused by impact that weakened the steel on the WTC. Your video seems to be a very elementary, if you will, explanantion of the towers' collapse.
Do you really believe that the massive steel core and supports could be damaged by a hollow tube made of lightest metal? Steel is infinitely stronger than riveted sheets of aluminum. Thinking otherwise is elementary my friend.
yes anything else would have been impossible. what would happen if you drove an indy car at 200 mph into a mountain? would it leave a cardboard cutout of itself in the mountain or would it crumple up and explode against the outside surface...check out september clues 1-8
but see that's just it, the scenario you dscribe is apples and oranges compared to 9/11, an indy car and the wall it's crashing into are designed to crumple for the safety of the driver, an airplane and a building are not not.
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as i've said, i work in aviation, i build and repair aircraft on a daily basis and have seen far too many examples of just what an aircraft can do. do you have any engineering background or practical experience to back up your supposition? a friend of mine was an aerodynamic and structural engineer for boeing (the company that made the plane in question) and he was not at all surprised by their effect on those buildings, take it from people who know, it was no hoax.
Oh gimme a damn break, how do you explain the molten lava found at the base of the building? an impossibility with jet fuel. How do you explain the collapse of building 7 that wasn't even hit by ANYTHING, my god what did you do watch one of those tv shows dolled out for you sheeple? Pseudo intellectual moron, educate yourself before you speak. O but you workie on planes, you musta be smart, doh!! Like thats supposed to be an answer in itself, take a hike!
for someone SO educated about jet fuel and crash scenes you don't seem to know much about them. as a professional in aviation i specialize in failure modes, ya know, crash scenes. the lava is simple, the towers were made of steel, when the plane hit that steel it weakened it and sprayed jet fuel everywhere which ignited, heating the steel which weakened it further. the weight pressing down from the floors above created friction in the steel which turned it to freaking putty.
about building 7, is it not concievable that a building that close to one of the worlds' largest buildings would collapse after this huge monolith comes raining down damn near on top of it? i understand that it's hard to imagine that that would be the only other building to come down and it is a bit out of my expertise but i gather it has something to do with the way the tower came down and it's displacement of debris.
@vendetta81 What about WTC 5 and 6? They did not collapse as WTC 7 did from debis stricking them. They had huge damage from the strikes. They burned uncontrolled harder than WTC 7. There was isolated collapses as would be expected but they did not collapse as a whole. Hell, they were not even re-enforced like WTC 7 was and they stood. Oh and they were closer to WTC1 and 2 also. So no, it is not conceivable. But than they did not hold the FCC files on Enron, now did they. You know Enron right?
as an aside, it's interesting to note that all of my posts have been given a "bad" vote simply because i don't agree with the general sentiment. after having presented my thoughts in a calm, well thought out manner.
first: the appraisers were contracted BY the goverment.
Second: the ground zero are was INFESTED of secret agents (some even camo as policemen and bombers)
third: the independent set of appraisers later found that half of the material necessary for evaluation and that was available for the first set, mysteriously dissapeared for them.
lol i love the voice to make it sound official. I guess its impossible for the middle to collapse down and create pressure, or beams to break when an airliner crashes thru, better yet i didnt know buildings were built to catch themselves if they collapse lol
how many real new yorkers think it was an inside job? im from far away and the truth seems to be evident to me, but the proof is always in the pudding.
Good on yer bbruhwiler8 with one 'l' ;) for sheer tenacity you can't be beat on YouTube. I bet the NSA just lurve you! Maybe you'll come on over to liveleak (free of spook control so far) when the fantasy makers give up here?
9/11 was an inside job and yep, although I don't think the CFR is getting scared, it's sure scrabbling full pelt to get PNAC finished - poor Iran - or wait, maybe the revolution will be YouTubed? July 10th - the Long March to DC - check it out.
Watch footage of the twin towers, it's obvious they are EXPLODING into dust, NOT COLLAPSING, 1100 bodies were NEVER recovered. WHAT?! How could that be? They were sent into that cloud of dust by EXPLOSIVES. watch --> 911 mysteries, ultimate con trailer, 911 in plane site, terror storm, loose change, money masters <-- witnesses told reporters that BOMBS were going off INSIDE the towers. do you have 15 min to spare for those who died? watch the first 15 min of --> 911 mysteries <--
ALL YOU CT'S ARE IDIOTS. Watch out for the black helicopters. How come the real prepetrators didn't tie 9/11 to Saddam so they could have a free pass to get oil in Iraq. So they pull of 9/11 perfectly but don't have the common sense to frame Saddam and not OBL. You cowards are too afraid of muslims to insult them. You throw out a phrase like "OBL couldn't have done it from a cave" despite that the hijackers trained on American soil
murphy3434: Your mockery is pointless and boring. Why should anyone "insult Muslims" when they're not responsible? Where do you get your information? American TV? And where IS Osama bin Scapegoat?
Go back to your silly football games, have a beer, take a nap, vote Republican. Free advice, from one "IDIOT" to another.
911 was an inside job. There were no hijackers. None of the 'hijackers' were on the official passenger lists (CNN. com) Many of the 'hijackers' are still alive (BBC). None of the 'hijackers' bodies were recovered at any of the crash sites. How did the government give the media names and photos SO FAST
Nice video.
sailorvenussun 8 months ago
look, you people obviously have no idea what you're talking about. as i've stated previously i've worked in aviation nearly my entire life. i've investigated failures, crashes and crash sites. all of the evidence i have seen to date is consistent with jet liners causing the collapse of two buildings designed to be able to absorb the impact of an aircraft of around half the weight of those used. i'm not a fan of the things bush did do, but let's face this was a bit far out of his league folks.
vendetta81 1 year ago
@vendetta81 That is outright horseshit. Geeze man, even pilots are saying it is horseshit! What. Do they obviously have no idea what they are talking about?
If like you said the plane did the damage than it would not fall semetrically straight down. Especially the first tower to fall. It would have been to its weakened side and slid off the building. Unless you have some explaination how a building struck to the outside of the core columns could fall straight down? Both falls look the same.
Emsworker68 1 year ago
they use different stuff to make different buildings madrid uses different stuff
wweuniversity 1 year ago
this is telling us that this is the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
S5rTNrN3S6Tw6T5v 1 year ago
Regardless of what you claim fire can do to steel, vendetta, it would NOT pulverize all the concrete to dust. How is it people were hanging out of windows in proximity to fires, if they were so hot? I guess we will have to wait for the next false flag before the ostriches pull their heads out of the sand...but I'm not sure if that will do the trick!
Bongofury361 2 years ago 2
best evidence is the output of dust before the collapse..like in an explosion...pushed sideways out
metekhan23 3 years ago
10 Floors don't collapse in 1 second people, wake the fuck up.
ShellyDrift 3 years ago 4
has anyone ever heard of air pressure? The massive amounts of weight and pressure on the lower floors of the building from those above cause massive amounts of air to be forced downward. That air and dust had nowhere else to go but out through the windows, which is what you witnessed, not explosions.
kingconst07 4 years ago
i doubt that greyish dust, which looks exactly like demolition squibs, is "air pressure" and it wouldnt come out only a few windows and so far below the collapsing area..thats like 25-30 floors. many witnesses report bomb like explosions after the crash and some even just before. See WTC worker willie rodriguez who reported bombs in the basement well before the plane hit. seismic data backs up his story.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
besides the other holes in your theory there's one glaring problem, demolition teams take months to prep and rig even 60 story buildings for implosion. don't you think SOMEBODY would have noticed all these demo teams rigging the steel pylons (wrapped in concrete, which btw is the dust you see shooting out the windows from a million pounds of building falling on them) on every floor, in both towers, for months up to the day it happened?
vendetta81 3 years ago
that's weak defense. this (considering the conspiracy's possability) was a top secret operation. nothing was stopping the perps from using the most advanced equipment they had. equipment that is not yet known (most likely) even to experts in the field.
Even with your defense, you can't explain why the tower fell so fast, or why it fell at all, without considering that explosives were used.
joshjoshx2 3 years ago
how is it weak exactly? i work in aviation and know just how much energy an aircraft can transfer to an object when it hits it, and if there is someone out there creating magical new substances capable of (in small quantities) bringing down large buildings then who's developing it and for whom are they developing it for if not the experts in the field? and yes, i can explain why the fell so fast but i don't have enough characters, time or inclination to do so, the math is simple, look it up.
vendetta81 3 years ago
you work in aviation, so you should know: the government hides things from us. lots of things. there have been dark aircraft since the 1950's (probly earlier), and only recently have people spotted strange aircraft suspected to be the latter. they haven't even released information on them (as far as i know). this is to vendetta81, who commented on my message. i said that cause for some reason, when i've been replying, it gets put at the top.
joshjoshx2 3 years ago
josh, as a side note, thank you for discussing this with me, and not insulting me like the dingus above.
people have been seeing lights in the sky for thousands of years, i'm one of them, doesn't mean our government is doing it, but since the 50's people have seen alot of things done by the government that they couldn't explain a great example is the u-2 which now has most of it's specs and capabilities very well known now. missiles like the v-2 tested in the states after ww2 are good too
vendetta81 3 years ago
The Manhattan project was way bigger than this and they kept that secret no damn problem.
Telekenesis123 3 years ago 6
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To me, it sounds realistic that the tower collapsed because of the burning fuel and the massive
power of a plane (of several tons) flying into it. The plane had an enormous speed and it
weighted several tons itself. With increasing speed, more tons are in charge.
And besides that: What about the upper floors?
Kockoliduu 4 years ago
why wouldn't the tower have fallen sooner after the plane hit, then, if the plane actually caused it to fall?
joshjoshx2 3 years ago
wow, ok, the bottom comment was supposed to be replying to kockoliduu, and the one under this to some other guy. it's not showing that i replied.
joshjoshx2 3 years ago
But one could ask more important questions:
- did the government know about terrorist attacks?
- did they do nothing because it was an easy way for
the "compassionate conservatism" to get its people to war - to the oilfileds of Iraque?
These are the questions u should ask.
Thats my opinion.
Kockoliduu 4 years ago
Wow, but I'm not quite sure that the fire on the Madrid building wasn't caused by an impact, right? It wasn't just the fire that caused both towers to collapse, it was the damage caused by impact that weakened the steel on the WTC. Your video seems to be a very elementary, if you will, explanantion of the towers' collapse.
kingconst07 4 years ago
Do you really believe that the massive steel core and supports could be damaged by a hollow tube made of lightest metal? Steel is infinitely stronger than riveted sheets of aluminum. Thinking otherwise is elementary my friend.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago 3
If your theory were correct, shouldnt that "hollow tube" have been crushed against the outer core of the WTC?
kingconst07 4 years ago
yes anything else would have been impossible. what would happen if you drove an indy car at 200 mph into a mountain? would it leave a cardboard cutout of itself in the mountain or would it crumple up and explode against the outside surface...check out september clues 1-8
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
but see that's just it, the scenario you dscribe is apples and oranges compared to 9/11, an indy car and the wall it's crashing into are designed to crumple for the safety of the driver, an airplane and a building are not not.
vendetta81 3 years ago
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as i've said, i work in aviation, i build and repair aircraft on a daily basis and have seen far too many examples of just what an aircraft can do. do you have any engineering background or practical experience to back up your supposition? a friend of mine was an aerodynamic and structural engineer for boeing (the company that made the plane in question) and he was not at all surprised by their effect on those buildings, take it from people who know, it was no hoax.
vendetta81 3 years ago
Oh gimme a damn break, how do you explain the molten lava found at the base of the building? an impossibility with jet fuel. How do you explain the collapse of building 7 that wasn't even hit by ANYTHING, my god what did you do watch one of those tv shows dolled out for you sheeple? Pseudo intellectual moron, educate yourself before you speak. O but you workie on planes, you musta be smart, doh!! Like thats supposed to be an answer in itself, take a hike!
Telekenesis123 3 years ago 8
for someone SO educated about jet fuel and crash scenes you don't seem to know much about them. as a professional in aviation i specialize in failure modes, ya know, crash scenes. the lava is simple, the towers were made of steel, when the plane hit that steel it weakened it and sprayed jet fuel everywhere which ignited, heating the steel which weakened it further. the weight pressing down from the floors above created friction in the steel which turned it to freaking putty.
vendetta81 3 years ago
about building 7, is it not concievable that a building that close to one of the worlds' largest buildings would collapse after this huge monolith comes raining down damn near on top of it? i understand that it's hard to imagine that that would be the only other building to come down and it is a bit out of my expertise but i gather it has something to do with the way the tower came down and it's displacement of debris.
vendetta81 3 years ago
@vendetta81 What about WTC 5 and 6? They did not collapse as WTC 7 did from debis stricking them. They had huge damage from the strikes. They burned uncontrolled harder than WTC 7. There was isolated collapses as would be expected but they did not collapse as a whole. Hell, they were not even re-enforced like WTC 7 was and they stood. Oh and they were closer to WTC1 and 2 also. So no, it is not conceivable. But than they did not hold the FCC files on Enron, now did they. You know Enron right?
Emsworker68 1 year ago
No this theory has been debunked repeatedly. No sale.
tropophyte 2 years ago
tropophyte, that theory was debunked by whom?
as an aside, it's interesting to note that all of my posts have been given a "bad" vote simply because i don't agree with the general sentiment. after having presented my thoughts in a calm, well thought out manner.
vendetta81 2 years ago
bull shit
aquaboy232008 1 year ago
I AM 911 TWOOFER!
Watch me search for the truth while simultaneously denying the truth!
smartasa911twoofer 2 years ago
Your feelings are apparently hurt. Go away and come back when and if you grow up. Thank you and have a nice day.
tropophyte 2 years ago
pretty damn cool video. Thanks man.
japanesexxxxxxxx 4 years ago 2
explosives would explode from down to up not up to down
edmannumber1 4 years ago
the high pressure explosions displayed are at least 24 floors down from the impact.
instinct8will 4 years ago
how can explosives be used if none were found?
edmannumber1 4 years ago
first: the appraisers were contracted BY the goverment.
Second: the ground zero are was INFESTED of secret agents (some even camo as policemen and bombers)
third: the independent set of appraisers later found that half of the material necessary for evaluation and that was available for the first set, mysteriously dissapeared for them.
instinct8will 4 years ago
inside job
zoskiaist 4 years ago
Irrelevant.
imbok 4 years ago
you americans are FUCKING RETARDED OH ... AND BROKE =))
kfl21 4 years ago
OH MY GOD IT ALL MAKES SENSE.
However, you have a boring voice =D
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russoturisto111 4 years ago
lol i love the voice to make it sound official. I guess its impossible for the middle to collapse down and create pressure, or beams to break when an airliner crashes thru, better yet i didnt know buildings were built to catch themselves if they collapse lol
martinez3d 4 years ago
how many real new yorkers think it was an inside job? im from far away and the truth seems to be evident to me, but the proof is always in the pudding.
AthruZ129 4 years ago
Did you clear this with totovader?
911PearlHarbor 4 years ago
Good on yer bbruhwiler8 with one 'l' ;) for sheer tenacity you can't be beat on YouTube. I bet the NSA just lurve you! Maybe you'll come on over to liveleak (free of spook control so far) when the fantasy makers give up here?
9/11 was an inside job and yep, although I don't think the CFR is getting scared, it's sure scrabbling full pelt to get PNAC finished - poor Iran - or wait, maybe the revolution will be YouTubed? July 10th - the Long March to DC - check it out.
Thermate 4 years ago
Watch footage of the twin towers, it's obvious they are EXPLODING into dust, NOT COLLAPSING, 1100 bodies were NEVER recovered. WHAT?! How could that be? They were sent into that cloud of dust by EXPLOSIVES. watch --> 911 mysteries, ultimate con trailer, 911 in plane site, terror storm, loose change, money masters <-- witnesses told reporters that BOMBS were going off INSIDE the towers. do you have 15 min to spare for those who died? watch the first 15 min of --> 911 mysteries <--
bbruhwiler8 4 years ago
ALL YOU CT'S ARE IDIOTS. Watch out for the black helicopters. How come the real prepetrators didn't tie 9/11 to Saddam so they could have a free pass to get oil in Iraq. So they pull of 9/11 perfectly but don't have the common sense to frame Saddam and not OBL. You cowards are too afraid of muslims to insult them. You throw out a phrase like "OBL couldn't have done it from a cave" despite that the hijackers trained on American soil
murphy3434 4 years ago
murphy3434: Your mockery is pointless and boring. Why should anyone "insult Muslims" when they're not responsible? Where do you get your information? American TV? And where IS Osama bin Scapegoat?
Go back to your silly football games, have a beer, take a nap, vote Republican. Free advice, from one "IDIOT" to another.
911PearlHarbor 4 years ago
911 was an inside job. There were no hijackers. None of the 'hijackers' were on the official passenger lists (CNN. com) Many of the 'hijackers' are still alive (BBC). None of the 'hijackers' bodies were recovered at any of the crash sites. How did the government give the media names and photos SO FAST
bbruhwiler8 4 years ago
lol too true
chickenleggz102 4 years ago
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615ocean 4 years ago