The EIP Car (Blue) was a single turbo running on a stand alone system.. The HPA (silver) car was a twin turbo. Technically, EIP won the race because it was a "heads up race" and they even mis-shifted, while HPA's car has a faster overall 1/4 mile time. But it was set up as a "head up street race", not a real 1/4 mile with with the best time winning.
I believe that Eip won that race, hpa must of have the single turbo. But if anyone is looking for the Eip kits there not around anymore. Better off with Hpa, too many bad storys with Eip.
Pretty sure these are twin turbos. There's no way in hell a stock R32 engine with a single turbo will make 600+ horsepower. The HPA has their twin turbo kit I'm not sure about the EIP probably a twin turbo kit too.
I don't know who won, but HPA are is a solid as they come but expect to pay 12K for their kits, vs. EIP stage 5 usually was 9-10K.... Eip had such a foot hold on fast VW's but their service went down the toilet and hence them not doing very well :( They would make some fast cars just their tuners got a "shady" reputation which will demise any company! APR tuning has a wonderful business model and the stand behind their products 100% they just don't get crazy with cars that need turbo kits-vr6-
I've see no point and saying which car is better etc, every person has its own taste or perspectives when they buy their cars, I've owned two A4's 1.8T quattro w/5 speed manual, a A4 2.0T quattro 6 speed manual before getting the R32, before getting the R32 test drove the new Audi S4 manual and the audi A3 3.2 with DSG, I think I never gonna sell the R32 is just the best car I have ever driven in every sense, not just looking for speed or acceleration here, but in general.
many ppl think that Sti's and Evo's are better..sure theyre faster and they can be considered the best of both worlds when it comes to strip and track..but vw engines are made with a heavier alloy than japenese cars therefore there is less of the engine beating the shit out of itself..VW AND R32 FTW :D
EVO and STI cool if your under 25, but ridiculous if your older. Most of the comments backing these cars are obviously made by teens. No doubt the Evo/STI out performs the R32 on the track and in acceleration, the r32 isnt that great on power. But what the japanese fail in is their build quality and their interiors are seriously in a class of their own. Ive been in cabs which are classier. Seriously girls just laugh at people driving these "hoon" cars.
Famous race here. To bad EIP later admitted to having a 50shot on the car to pull such amazing runs. There is a great reason why EIP is out of business with an angry crowd running after them. Last I heard, the EIP r32 was sitting dead at track left over from waterfest and know one would pick it up.
we arent out of business. we fired all of our staff except for the designers (me) and got new employees. the R32 did actually die but that was because we had completely stripped the slant teeth on the front and rear differential. we did pick it up. and no we didnt use 50 shot nitrous. it was all motor. not backing up EIPtuning (i should be) but im not. i personally think HPA is a much better company and produces much better quality performance parts. we do make better exhausts though :)
Both very good tuned cars. The EIP seems to edge ahead at the half way stage and increase the gap over the HPG/HPA golf. From my understanding the HPA/HPG turboed golfs tend to have a lot better low down power and torque compared to the EIP whereas the EIP makes good top end power above 4k revs.
EIP makes better top end because it has 755hp vs. HPA's 550hp. The EIP also has more tq, 687 vs. HPA's low 600's. The HPA car has less lag, making it have a better start. It also ACTUALLY runs, unlike EIP's car.
im sure they made there car top of the line and didnt cut any corner meaning the blue one shown in the vid but they just didnt seem to care about their customers cars which would mean that r32 in the video is one of a kind a well built stage 5 eip turbo damn id love to get my hands on that badboy
@Mshab356 EIP also did used spray for their 1/4 mile runs unlike HPA, I do love EIP's competition R32 exhaust, in my opinion u cant get better sound then that. 2 bad its quite rare now, because they don't make those any more, and u had to order one to make when they were in business.
@elmatadore333 a Gold R32 is always AWD, unless it has a drivetrain swap. So thus, the EIP and HPA golfs are both AWD. You can even see it in the launch of these cars in the beginning. If the EIP was FWD, it would be way behind the HPA in the start. The EIP would probably win because it has more horsepower. Otherwise, the HPA is a much better turbo kit.
Not sure if the comment about HPA/HGP/EIP turbo R32's was for me or not, but I don't have any of those, the only part I have from any of those companies is an HPA Intake Manifold.
screw all you fucken haters...vw's are the ultimate tuning cars....evo and stis suck ass my friend had them they are just a waste of money....if you really want a car that can go 160 stock its the r32 and yet i mention they are cheaper and built by germans...thank you very much all jap cars are crapily built...german engineers made sure that every car they come out with is properly made right and can last longer than your shitty rice burners....
Wow are YOU lost. You do realize that SUBARU is #1 for reliability followed by Toyota then Honda, Nissan and Mazda are tied for 4th. 5th is (SADLY) GM!!! VW is nowhere near there and my Legacy will do 0-60 in about 5 seconds. Safer, smarter, more reliable, better.
safer....no, smater.....hell no, more reliable.......dont think so, better.......HHAAHA your joking right?
i wouyld honestly like to hear where you heard those stats from....... consumers report? if so Vw has been hated by consumers report since the 80's because when you want to get your car judged by consumers report you have to pay a hefty
fee and VW knew that due to the buyers knowledge they wouldnt need to pay to get themselves rates. so they didnt pay and consumers report is always keeping that in mind when rating VW's. so learn what your talking about before calling the greatest....the worst
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Holy shit are you expressing your ignorance. YES CONSUMER REPORTS and YES JD POWER. Subaru Legacy # 1 mid size sedan in safety - over all your lovely german bricks.
All these ridiculous arguments. Take it to the blacktop. As you can all tell, running your mouth gets you no where. I'll back the STi / EVO side for young kids that like big muffler tips and loud BOV's, but I myself chose the R32 over the competitors.
Not sure what the specs are for modded Sti's and EVO's, but my R32 does 0-100mph in 7.8 seconds and a 1/4 mile in the 10's. I've "taken it to the road" with Porsche (caymen s, 911 turbo, gt2), Audi (RS4, RS6), Mercedes (CLK,CLS,SL,SLK,S, all those random letters), Lotus (Exige S, Elise, and one older model), Slow Hemi Dodge's, STi's and EVO's, and any pocket rocket that wants to try.
And I don't recall the model or exact power someone said earlier, but I don't think a 580 bhp car will beat a heavily modded r32, not mine atleast ~650bhp.
We should all just get along, both cars are quick, one is just more classy than the other.
you DO know this is a volkswagen video, yes? what concern do you and your SUBARU have for it, if your car is that fast and is so well known? you obviously outclass them both in speed and admiration. so on behalf of vdubs and drivers in all places near and far...so what.
i hate when all those EVO and STI guys talk all there shit wait till vw comes out with the golf R36 next year thats right and mitsu copied the vw with the dual clutch paddle shifting and did you know VW'S DSG is the fastest shifter in the world even faster than a FERRARI ENZO's and mitsu copied it from VW but it wont even close to the build quality
quite fankly all of you are wrong. the 2004 VW R32 out performs the Mitsubishi Evolution and the Subaru WRX STI by far in handling on asphalt. the VW was not designed by the Volkswagon engineers to be used as a rally car. now in a straigt line, the other two competetors would win in a race, but if you can afford to buy 1 of the 2 competing cars for almost $10k more, you can probably afford a chip you could kick both there asses
I work for Mitsu as a tech I own a R32. I have to say APS makes beautifull exhaust and intercooler but what you dont know is that APS 900hp car isnt street legal and the 500whp is but nither last long at those level. VR6's are well built and have 2 more cylinders these will last longer than the evo's motor. I work on them alot kid's bring them in just with a boost controler an exhaust intercooler and pretty much blown the motor at 15000 miles.
yeah... it is street legal, the drag car isn't but the owners car is. It puts down around 960 to the wheels. No doubts the R32 is a great car but it's not a competetor for the EVO and STI, try comparing it to the Mazdaspeed6 or an A3.. wait thats the same car.... don't compare it to that.
Mazdaspeed6? i have a VW New Beetle that plays with Evos and STIs they arent Stock either more like like upgraded Turbos and and intake manifolds around 400HP. i respect the Japs a lot. but no matter what car the Japs bring unless its a Skyline Mine's R34 and still... it doesnt really stand a chance and im not just talking a Golf R32
If your new beetle keeps up with Evos and Sti its because they are playing with you or their drivers are absolute shite. A beetle is a slug. My Legacy GT would leave it like it was sitting still in the twisties or flat out.
iam actually going to agree with you production. honestly, the beetles are made for grandmothers that had the original beetle when they were 18. the car was made for drivers who cant handle anything over 45mph. haha. hanging with sti's and evo's. nahh.
RETARDS...EVOS AND IMPREZA's have DECADES of rally cross in them you try jumping your r32 and just see what happens.they are improperly ballenced,ugly, weak for how powerful they are, and the chasis is too short.Sure its fine in a straight line but u go tae a turn at 180 in your 38,000$ HPA and see
I don't think most of us will have the chance to jump our R32's and turn them around dirt roads at 180mph... I don't think most Evo and Impreza owners will want to do that either. Evos are great and all, but the R32's are an extremely well built car all around.
You can't really be serious? On what criteria do you base a hatch being better or worse than a sedan. When it comes down to it, it's a matter of your opinion, which is completly worthless to anyone but you.
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Um no. Lets see, greater passenger volume, comfort, and safety are things offered by a mid-size sedan over a compact hatch. What a hatch has? Lighter weight to go faster. If the sedan (subaru turbo, bmw m series, mercedes cl, etc) can make up for its bulk, rock and roll! It just doesnt happen easy or cheap. Keep in mind I love hot hatches and 2 doors, but I'm 33 and want to take my business associates out to lunch in comfort.
dude that subaru is an all out drag car. don't get me wrong i love an sti anything, but tho's car can be daily driver's/ take your ass on vacation car's. my buddy is a tech at a vw, buick and subaru dealer and honstely he said he hate's working on the subaru's most. why? cuz there in their the most getting fixed. too much electronic nonsense, they aren't all that.
your just pissed because the 80's can kick your ass.
On another note, You really can't put the R32 in a rally class as VW designed it for the streets, not dirt(though it does perform well either way).Plus there is just nothing quite like an r32's distinct sound(sounds like a ferrari sans 6 cyls to me).
hey dtmamg do you have any idea how much hp these cars are pushing???well over 600 and they do 10s. you high if you think the evo can hang with that. and the evo would even exist if it wasn't for audi/vw world famous quattro. the evo was built to compete with audi quttro systems and still lacks what quattro can do with out a diff controller.
Dude, I love VWs like no other but you are seriously misinformed. This is not the end all be all of automobiles. Have you ever heard of an AMS EVO? Search on youtube and you will find some videos of them. There are a handful of 900AWHP AMS EVOs that would put a hurting on both of these vehicles.
the evo may beat the r32 in a drag and in corners cuase its lighter but all around the r32 is better made, sounds a hell of alot better and personally an evo is nothin but a 4 door sallon with a gigantic turbo. The evo looks like a family sedan with a rediculously huge spoiler. They look so stupid. but thats my opinion.
The .:R32 doesn't accel in pure performance as the STI and EVO 'do.' There are countless reviews out there that say the .:R32 whoops the STI and EVO OVERALL - Something a lot you guys fail to even have in your cars. It's not sh*t - That's the truth.
R32 is just germany's desperate attempt to compete with the WRX sti and EVO MR. R32 doesn't provide the pure performance experience that WRX and EVO gives you. My choice will always be the EVO MR with no AC, Cruise Control, No power anything, No sound system. Just pure performance and nothing else.
yeah, stupiddass... Try keeping up with the HPA R32... you Tuned ricer- fart can car w/o options, and R32 in fully loaded interior and seat warmers... Stupid Ricers... what? u supposed to be some CAR MAGAZINE car writter? prove it... Subaru? Hyundai? same crap STI my ass
just to let you know Volkswagen wasnt even going to release the R32 in America until some reporters from america went to test drive it for thier articles and told VW that they should release in america. so they did. easy as that. no saying that it kicks the shit out of evo because it doesnt but it sure as hell was built a lot stronger.
I'll beat both of these cars with both of my ferocious machines. My 540 bhp Mitsu Lancer EVO MR and my Ducati 999r. Ducati 999r would just crush the opposition with its 999cc engine. So fast, that it actually hurts when it accelerates and also extremely hard to keep the front wheel on the ground. EVO MR, just perfect. No words to explain that car.
lol fpv??? no way. these cars hit 0-60 in low 4s and remind you that they are awd+3.2L+turbo+600hp. Fpv belongs in the garage when it comes to these guys. I would like to take you on in my aurion zr6.
see, now that wins it. I just love stirring you guys, wow most of you have no lives. My first car was a dub, it's not like don't appreciate most of them. But you little cryers can kiss my ass. Respect, R32A...
Mate, I would love to take one of them on, I don't have the all wheel drive but I reckon my torque would help to get through that slow 2nd to 3rd. Long live FPV F6 Typhoon
Eww, could you be any more of a bogan? An FPV? Why dont you just grab a VB, put on a wifebeater and go home. Seriously, i'd back the dude in the Aurion over you. Your torque would serve to have your rear wheels spinning whilst these guys left you in their rearviews.. Loser.
THE R32 WON...JAJAJAJA
tkbmal 10 months ago
sounds like dinosaurus !!! one hell of the power
yourfast07 11 months ago
the best tuner for vw is dahlbäck motosportlock at youtube he hat 900 hp.,gretts from germany at dubsport232
matze7790 1 year ago
the EIP's clutch can't handle ... we hear it scream so much on each gear...
milkidou 1 year ago
the EIP's clutch can't handle ... we hear it sream so much on each gear...
milkidou 1 year ago
So, WHO WON??? Details please.
AudiophileTubes 2 years ago
looks like EIP won
Alphalfa 2 years ago
HPA Motorsports is from Surrey Canada, not the US
charzkuentzle 2 years ago
The EIP Car (Blue) was a single turbo running on a stand alone system.. The HPA (silver) car was a twin turbo. Technically, EIP won the race because it was a "heads up race" and they even mis-shifted, while HPA's car has a faster overall 1/4 mile time. But it was set up as a "head up street race", not a real 1/4 mile with with the best time winning.
getentertainment 2 years ago
I believe that Eip won that race, hpa must of have the single turbo. But if anyone is looking for the Eip kits there not around anymore. Better off with Hpa, too many bad storys with Eip.
CarloGambino89 2 years ago
the HPA R32 was twn turbo and the Eip R32 was a single turbo kit. but HPA now has a single turbo kit for the R32's
03turbogetta 2 years ago
Pretty sure these are twin turbos. There's no way in hell a stock R32 engine with a single turbo will make 600+ horsepower. The HPA has their twin turbo kit I'm not sure about the EIP probably a twin turbo kit too.
Pendemic 2 years ago
I don't know who won, but HPA are is a solid as they come but expect to pay 12K for their kits, vs. EIP stage 5 usually was 9-10K.... Eip had such a foot hold on fast VW's but their service went down the toilet and hence them not doing very well :( They would make some fast cars just their tuners got a "shady" reputation which will demise any company! APR tuning has a wonderful business model and the stand behind their products 100% they just don't get crazy with cars that need turbo kits-vr6-
boravw1 3 years ago
eip are out of business
nickgtracer996 2 years ago 2
im shocked the eip one didnt breakdown after the launch lol
iamkeithhofmann 3 years ago
I've see no point and saying which car is better etc, every person has its own taste or perspectives when they buy their cars, I've owned two A4's 1.8T quattro w/5 speed manual, a A4 2.0T quattro 6 speed manual before getting the R32, before getting the R32 test drove the new Audi S4 manual and the audi A3 3.2 with DSG, I think I never gonna sell the R32 is just the best car I have ever driven in every sense, not just looking for speed or acceleration here, but in general.
marzbite 3 years ago 2
just for the record HPA is not from the US as the description says... they're from British Columbia (in Canada for those geographically-challenged)
haughtytaughty 3 years ago 2
o yea and screw EIP they suck..HPA FTW!!!
stillen300zx 3 years ago 2
many ppl think that Sti's and Evo's are better..sure theyre faster and they can be considered the best of both worlds when it comes to strip and track..but vw engines are made with a heavier alloy than japenese cars therefore there is less of the engine beating the shit out of itself..VW AND R32 FTW :D
stillen300zx 3 years ago
yeah man you wouldn't imagine the type of shit i heard about eip....very dissapointed i should say..
CRE8CBDK 3 years ago 2
yeah, I ordered parts from EIP and got ripped off. they took it forever and finally no parts. I had issues with them.
lov2xlr8gti 3 years ago
EVO and STI cool if your under 25, but ridiculous if your older. Most of the comments backing these cars are obviously made by teens. No doubt the Evo/STI out performs the R32 on the track and in acceleration, the r32 isnt that great on power. But what the japanese fail in is their build quality and their interiors are seriously in a class of their own. Ive been in cabs which are classier. Seriously girls just laugh at people driving these "hoon" cars.
R32FTW
NINETWENTYEIGHT 4 years ago 2
of course faster that a r32 they are both turbo, naturally aspirated vs turbo
then for a fair match put that turbo on the R32 =)
would be fun
PimpedRs4 2 years ago
exactly and if you have the money for an r you can EASILY drop a few more dollars in it and make that sti seem slow
conor2479 2 years ago 3
EIP sucks.
royalal 4 years ago
dot com
EuroProjeckt 4 years ago
neuspeed is pase now?
AbdullahTheNecro 4 years ago
Famous race here. To bad EIP later admitted to having a 50shot on the car to pull such amazing runs. There is a great reason why EIP is out of business with an angry crowd running after them. Last I heard, the EIP r32 was sitting dead at track left over from waterfest and know one would pick it up.
dubshow 4 years ago
eip is shit. they did some terrible stuff to peoples cars like blowing engines and not telling their customers
vortex487 4 years ago
we arent out of business. we fired all of our staff except for the designers (me) and got new employees. the R32 did actually die but that was because we had completely stripped the slant teeth on the front and rear differential. we did pick it up. and no we didnt use 50 shot nitrous. it was all motor. not backing up EIPtuning (i should be) but im not. i personally think HPA is a much better company and produces much better quality performance parts. we do make better exhausts though :)
EIPtuningR32 3 years ago
wtf man they just upgraded it litle bit...đ
That engine (HGP Bi-Turbo) IS GERMAN!!!!!!!!
Yordancho008 3 years ago 5
no that car wasn't even at waterfest. i was there. trust me i was lookin for this thing
suzuki400boi 3 years ago
EIP IST BESSER WIE HPA aber der EIP fahrer war zuspät am gas darum hat er verlohren EIP hat die bessern auspuffanlagen ^^;-)
tiestoN1 4 years ago
The EIP kits have terrible reliability and it was a generally very dishonest business.
Thats why they are closed, forever. ;)
So I don't think they really are better...
dedgsus 4 years ago
Both very good tuned cars. The EIP seems to edge ahead at the half way stage and increase the gap over the HPG/HPA golf. From my understanding the HPA/HPG turboed golfs tend to have a lot better low down power and torque compared to the EIP whereas the EIP makes good top end power above 4k revs.
caseyryeback1913 4 years ago
EIP makes better top end because it has 755hp vs. HPA's 550hp. The EIP also has more tq, 687 vs. HPA's low 600's. The HPA car has less lag, making it have a better start. It also ACTUALLY runs, unlike EIP's car.
Mshab356 4 years ago 7
im sure they made there car top of the line and didnt cut any corner meaning the blue one shown in the vid but they just didnt seem to care about their customers cars which would mean that r32 in the video is one of a kind a well built stage 5 eip turbo damn id love to get my hands on that badboy
conor2479 2 years ago
@Mshab356 EIP also did used spray for their 1/4 mile runs unlike HPA, I do love EIP's competition R32 exhaust, in my opinion u cant get better sound then that. 2 bad its quite rare now, because they don't make those any more, and u had to order one to make when they were in business.
dogodud 1 year ago
@Mshab356 the EIP golf is FWD and the HPA is AWD , so the HPA is better in the launch! But at the and EIP wins because it has 100hp more!
elmatadore333 9 months ago
@elmatadore333 a Gold R32 is always AWD, unless it has a drivetrain swap. So thus, the EIP and HPA golfs are both AWD. You can even see it in the launch of these cars in the beginning. If the EIP was FWD, it would be way behind the HPA in the start. The EIP would probably win because it has more horsepower. Otherwise, the HPA is a much better turbo kit.
Mshab356 9 months ago
@Mshab356 exactly : )
at least, eip is no more in bizness cause of bad turbo solutions..
unless hpa hgp bts and others..
hortenIX 9 months ago
hpa is more reliable but eip is cheaper and almost as fast "*dubber4life
mglobal1217 4 years ago
The simple thing here is, ladies and Germs, Go Euro Or just Go home.
xeronicus 4 years ago
LOL at all these guys that think they have HPA/HGP/EIP turbo r32s on here. Especially the guy that thinks he has one that runs in the 10s.
Why dont you post a video of it then mate with your screen name on a piece of paper?
NINETWENTYEIGHT 4 years ago
YEAH. Evereyone thinks that. HAHA
90benjamin90 4 years ago
Not sure if the comment about HPA/HGP/EIP turbo R32's was for me or not, but I don't have any of those, the only part I have from any of those companies is an HPA Intake Manifold.
maxxtout99 4 years ago
screw all you fucken haters...vw's are the ultimate tuning cars....evo and stis suck ass my friend had them they are just a waste of money....if you really want a car that can go 160 stock its the r32 and yet i mention they are cheaper and built by germans...thank you very much all jap cars are crapily built...german engineers made sure that every car they come out with is properly made right and can last longer than your shitty rice burners....
brubaker119 4 years ago
Wow are YOU lost. You do realize that SUBARU is #1 for reliability followed by Toyota then Honda, Nissan and Mazda are tied for 4th. 5th is (SADLY) GM!!! VW is nowhere near there and my Legacy will do 0-60 in about 5 seconds. Safer, smarter, more reliable, better.
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
safer....no, smater.....hell no, more reliable.......dont think so, better.......HHAAHA your joking right?
i wouyld honestly like to hear where you heard those stats from....... consumers report? if so Vw has been hated by consumers report since the 80's because when you want to get your car judged by consumers report you have to pay a hefty
EIPtuningR32 4 years ago
fee and VW knew that due to the buyers knowledge they wouldnt need to pay to get themselves rates. so they didnt pay and consumers report is always keeping that in mind when rating VW's. so learn what your talking about before calling the greatest....the worst
EIPtuningR32 4 years ago
CONSUMER REPORTS DOESNT GET PAID BY MANUFACTURERS MAN! THATS THE POINT! Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
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ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
wrong again, you DO have to pay to get yourself noticed in consumers report.
EIPtuningR32 4 years ago
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ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
Consumer reports DOESNT EVEN ACCEPT TEST VEHICLES FROM MANUFACTURERS THEY AQUIRE THEM THEMSELVES! No fair getting free cars from manufacturers!
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
Holy shit are you expressing your ignorance. YES CONSUMER REPORTS and YES JD POWER. Subaru Legacy # 1 mid size sedan in safety - over all your lovely german bricks.
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
EIP change your name to KiddingMyselfAbout4YearOldCars
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
production change your name to ImaDumbAssForArguingWithTheDesigner
and if you learned your addition...it would be 3 years
EIPtuningR32 4 years ago
Your right your a dumbass!!!
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
All these ridiculous arguments. Take it to the blacktop. As you can all tell, running your mouth gets you no where. I'll back the STi / EVO side for young kids that like big muffler tips and loud BOV's, but I myself chose the R32 over the competitors.
maxxtout99 4 years ago
Not sure what the specs are for modded Sti's and EVO's, but my R32 does 0-100mph in 7.8 seconds and a 1/4 mile in the 10's. I've "taken it to the road" with Porsche (caymen s, 911 turbo, gt2), Audi (RS4, RS6), Mercedes (CLK,CLS,SL,SLK,S, all those random letters), Lotus (Exige S, Elise, and one older model), Slow Hemi Dodge's, STi's and EVO's, and any pocket rocket that wants to try.
maxxtout99 4 years ago
And I don't recall the model or exact power someone said earlier, but I don't think a 580 bhp car will beat a heavily modded r32, not mine atleast ~650bhp.
We should all just get along, both cars are quick, one is just more classy than the other.
maxxtout99 4 years ago
ESX STI = 1/4 mile 7.9 @ 188mph.
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
Holy cow! That's just not even right. What's the price tag on these and how come I've never heard of or seen one before?
maxxtout99 4 years ago
Go to Easy Street Motorsports dot com. They are home of the worlds fastest Subaru.
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
Also youtube dynaflash subaru.
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
you DO know this is a volkswagen video, yes? what concern do you and your SUBARU have for it, if your car is that fast and is so well known? you obviously outclass them both in speed and admiration. so on behalf of vdubs and drivers in all places near and far...so what.
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ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
who won??
SuperChicken13 4 years ago
we did
EIPtuningR32 4 years ago
i hate when all those EVO and STI guys talk all there shit wait till vw comes out with the golf R36 next year thats right and mitsu copied the vw with the dual clutch paddle shifting and did you know VW'S DSG is the fastest shifter in the world even faster than a FERRARI ENZO's and mitsu copied it from VW but it wont even close to the build quality
judgementdey 4 years ago
quite fankly all of you are wrong. the 2004 VW R32 out performs the Mitsubishi Evolution and the Subaru WRX STI by far in handling on asphalt. the VW was not designed by the Volkswagon engineers to be used as a rally car. now in a straigt line, the other two competetors would win in a race, but if you can afford to buy 1 of the 2 competing cars for almost $10k more, you can probably afford a chip you could kick both there asses
EIPtuningR32 4 years ago
Volkswagen Golf R32 - $32,990
250hp Legacy AWD $26,000
STI - $31,000
ARE YOU STUPID? "quite frankly you are all wrong" including you. For fuck sake at least check the prices before you talk shit.
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
actually you are wrong. the R32 is only 25 considering your getting the 2004
EIPtuningR32 4 years ago
yav ben bu r32 nın hastasıyım benımkınıde boyle yapabılsek
GolfBurak 4 years ago
who won?!!!
mk4mitchie 4 years ago
I work for Mitsu as a tech I own a R32. I have to say APS makes beautifull exhaust and intercooler but what you dont know is that APS 900hp car isnt street legal and the 500whp is but nither last long at those level. VR6's are well built and have 2 more cylinders these will last longer than the evo's motor. I work on them alot kid's bring them in just with a boost controler an exhaust intercooler and pretty much blown the motor at 15000 miles.
Fanatiiick 4 years ago
yeah... it is street legal, the drag car isn't but the owners car is. It puts down around 960 to the wheels. No doubts the R32 is a great car but it's not a competetor for the EVO and STI, try comparing it to the Mazdaspeed6 or an A3.. wait thats the same car.... don't compare it to that.
driftawayviii 4 years ago
Mazdaspeed6? i have a VW New Beetle that plays with Evos and STIs they arent Stock either more like like upgraded Turbos and and intake manifolds around 400HP. i respect the Japs a lot. but no matter what car the Japs bring unless its a Skyline Mine's R34 and still... it doesnt really stand a chance and im not just talking a Golf R32
XKoRnX169 4 years ago
If your new beetle keeps up with Evos and Sti its because they are playing with you or their drivers are absolute shite. A beetle is a slug. My Legacy GT would leave it like it was sitting still in the twisties or flat out.
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
iam actually going to agree with you production. honestly, the beetles are made for grandmothers that had the original beetle when they were 18. the car was made for drivers who cant handle anything over 45mph. haha. hanging with sti's and evo's. nahh.
EIPtuningR32 4 years ago
What about the 3.2l NB they have over the pond?
Those are as fast as any r32...I'm just an all around Dub guy,I own an 04 GTI 1.8T(which i love to death)
xeronicus 4 years ago
RETARDS...EVOS AND IMPREZA's have DECADES of rally cross in them you try jumping your r32 and just see what happens.they are improperly ballenced,ugly, weak for how powerful they are, and the chasis is too short.Sure its fine in a straight line but u go tae a turn at 180 in your 38,000$ HPA and see
amsTsi 4 years ago
I don't think most of us will have the chance to jump our R32's and turn them around dirt roads at 180mph... I don't think most Evo and Impreza owners will want to do that either. Evos are great and all, but the R32's are an extremely well built car all around.
fanny1packer 4 years ago
your a dumb ass. where in this entire page did one person talk about the R32 being a rally car.
EIPtuningR32 4 years ago
evo and sti = cereal box toy cars
R32 = A real car
scruffy412 4 years ago
haahaaha
EIPtuningR32 4 years ago
not to mention evo's and sti's are classified as 4 door family sedan's and r32's are hatchback not a famly car
scruffy412 4 years ago
You don't actually think a hatchback is better than a sedan? I'm all for J-body style but hatchbacks are so 1980s
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
You can't really be serious? On what criteria do you base a hatch being better or worse than a sedan. When it comes down to it, it's a matter of your opinion, which is completly worthless to anyone but you.
jonb2005 4 years ago
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Um no. Lets see, greater passenger volume, comfort, and safety are things offered by a mid-size sedan over a compact hatch. What a hatch has? Lighter weight to go faster. If the sedan (subaru turbo, bmw m series, mercedes cl, etc) can make up for its bulk, rock and roll! It just doesnt happen easy or cheap. Keep in mind I love hot hatches and 2 doors, but I'm 33 and want to take my business associates out to lunch in comfort.
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
dude that subaru is an all out drag car. don't get me wrong i love an sti anything, but tho's car can be daily driver's/ take your ass on vacation car's. my buddy is a tech at a vw, buick and subaru dealer and honstely he said he hate's working on the subaru's most. why? cuz there in their the most getting fixed. too much electronic nonsense, they aren't all that.
suzuki400boi 3 years ago
Comfort means not making an adult "climb in back".
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
your just pissed because the 80's can kick your ass.
On another note, You really can't put the R32 in a rally class as VW designed it for the streets, not dirt(though it does perform well either way).Plus there is just nothing quite like an r32's distinct sound(sounds like a ferrari sans 6 cyls to me).
xeronicus 4 years ago
i would give my left nut for a r32
tuned or not
mochablader2 4 years ago
Did HPA win, looks like it
daniellederek 4 years ago
hey dtmamg do you have any idea how much hp these cars are pushing???well over 600 and they do 10s. you high if you think the evo can hang with that. and the evo would even exist if it wasn't for audi/vw world famous quattro. the evo was built to compete with audi quttro systems and still lacks what quattro can do with out a diff controller.
JLCVDUB 4 years ago
Dude, I love VWs like no other but you are seriously misinformed. This is not the end all be all of automobiles. Have you ever heard of an AMS EVO? Search on youtube and you will find some videos of them. There are a handful of 900AWHP AMS EVOs that would put a hurting on both of these vehicles.
We all thank Audi for Quattro!
sleeksilver 4 years ago
I have a Talon Tsi that was built by AMS in Chicago. AND yes i agree with u...a 500 horse evo would shit on the r32s.hahah
amsTsi 4 years ago
the evo may beat the r32 in a drag and in corners cuase its lighter but all around the r32 is better made, sounds a hell of alot better and personally an evo is nothin but a 4 door sallon with a gigantic turbo. The evo looks like a family sedan with a rediculously huge spoiler. They look so stupid. but thats my opinion.
kazsc89 4 years ago
Subaru has been making the best AWD systems since Audi was wishing it was Porshe in the 60s.
ProductionDesignrMAX 4 years ago
The .:R32 doesn't accel in pure performance as the STI and EVO 'do.' There are countless reviews out there that say the .:R32 whoops the STI and EVO OVERALL - Something a lot you guys fail to even have in your cars. It's not sh*t - That's the truth.
thisonefoo 4 years ago
screw all you haters. The R32 is a badass ride I know I own one.
try cruising on the HWY at 160 without a bit of shake with your P.O.S. cars.
aha EVOs and STIs cannot hang with the R on the open HWY.
wattsun 4 years ago
This guy hit the nail on the head...I own one too, and I can't tell you how many times I have dominated others on the hwy once we're over 100 mph.
dmb408 4 years ago
R32 is just germany's desperate attempt to compete with the WRX sti and EVO MR. R32 doesn't provide the pure performance experience that WRX and EVO gives you. My choice will always be the EVO MR with no AC, Cruise Control, No power anything, No sound system. Just pure performance and nothing else.
dtmamg 4 years ago
Also the worst saftey rating = no thanks
Finstar83 4 years ago
yeah, stupiddass... Try keeping up with the HPA R32... you Tuned ricer- fart can car w/o options, and R32 in fully loaded interior and seat warmers... Stupid Ricers... what? u supposed to be some CAR MAGAZINE car writter? prove it... Subaru? Hyundai? same crap STI my ass
mrferrari88 4 years ago
HAHAHAAH nice
EIPtuningR32 4 years ago
just to let you know Volkswagen wasnt even going to release the R32 in America until some reporters from america went to test drive it for thier articles and told VW that they should release in america. so they did. easy as that. no saying that it kicks the shit out of evo because it doesnt but it sure as hell was built a lot stronger.
mloser69 4 years ago
I'll beat both of these cars with both of my ferocious machines. My 540 bhp Mitsu Lancer EVO MR and my Ducati 999r. Ducati 999r would just crush the opposition with its 999cc engine. So fast, that it actually hurts when it accelerates and also extremely hard to keep the front wheel on the ground. EVO MR, just perfect. No words to explain that car.
dtmamg 4 years ago
LOL Bullshit. You don't own either.
And if you owned a racing motorcycle you wouldn't brag about beating a car.
Also it doesn't hurt to ride a superbike unless there is something wrong with you.
dtmamg = LOL.
AugustKamppur 4 years ago
I honestly dont think there would be a person in the world who would own an evo and a ducati.
NINETWENTYEIGHT 4 years ago
you dumbass.. you dont own a ducati anything cause it is a 998cc motor..
mikey69up 4 years ago 2
lol fpv??? no way. these cars hit 0-60 in low 4s and remind you that they are awd+3.2L+turbo+600hp. Fpv belongs in the garage when it comes to these guys. I would like to take you on in my aurion zr6.
e36mmm 4 years ago
Eeeeheeem, HPA twin turbo 0-60 3.0sec, as per their website.
R32AutoXer 4 years ago
yeah lol.. you tell him autoxer...
thomasmidas 4 years ago
see, now that wins it. I just love stirring you guys, wow most of you have no lives. My first car was a dub, it's not like don't appreciate most of them. But you little cryers can kiss my ass. Respect, R32A...
mrmarvelus 4 years ago
Mate, I would love to take one of them on, I don't have the all wheel drive but I reckon my torque would help to get through that slow 2nd to 3rd. Long live FPV F6 Typhoon
mrmarvelus 4 years ago
Eww, could you be any more of a bogan? An FPV? Why dont you just grab a VB, put on a wifebeater and go home. Seriously, i'd back the dude in the Aurion over you. Your torque would serve to have your rear wheels spinning whilst these guys left you in their rearviews.. Loser.
87Stikk87 4 years ago