I'm not discounting Robert Shaw's decision to put the low Bb in. (and I'm referring to the one two leger lines under the bass stave; which is heard here and which is absolutely NOT in the printed score) Poulenc may well have approved his decision to put this note in. But it's gilding the lily, surely.
all the people arguing on here....wow... i had hoped that educated people would be more mature than the people that argue on every pop/rock singers' videos. but alas even here people have to prove that they are right.
Looking at the score. The last note, the basses have the Bb one octave and a whole step below middle C. That's not out of place.
In this *performance*, some basses drop the bottom out and take the Bb and octave below THAT. That's an interpretive decision, not the composer's writing. So when you--as a director--do the piece, YMMV.
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I have no idea what any of you are talking about. I hear nothing dissonant in this piece... It sounds beautiful to me. Not that dissonance can't be beautiful. That would be absurd. Maybe it's Eliot Carter who said, The more I listen to dissonance, the more consonant it wounds, and the more I listen to consonance, the more dissonant it sounds." I'd have to agree with him completely.
Traditional....still traditional.....Where's Poulenc?......discrete vocal dissonance! There he is!! And if he didn't end with that nonconventional low Bb the piece would be incomplete. In some of his pieces he has a knack for traditional writing adding a hint of 20th century. It's absolutely perfect!
Poulenc seemed to have this really strange obsession with obtuse dissonance...rather displeasing to my ears. I'll stick with the Lauridsen version as performed by the Nordic Chamber choir instead.
@Lomitus By obtuse dissonance, do you mean dissonant intervals by voices on different ends of the spectrum? I don't quite get what you're saying there. I myself love Poulenc's music, as well as Lauridsen's. This piece does seem rather traditional and a bit out of character for Poulenc, though. Then again, I haven't analyzed his music too much.
This setting of the text might be the most fitting and evocative. It conveys the mystery of the birth while hinting at the darkness and pain lying in wait in the child's future.
I can understand why you might think the low Bb is just wrong for the chord. It's not traditional. But it's something I would want to include in that chord as well, if I were composing this. There's something large, open, and icy about that last chord. Like you're in a bright castle made of ice, but you're completely warm and at home in it. Or, you're standing on a mesa, staring out over a wide landscape as a slight breeze blows around you.
@pawdaw The low B flat is there because it's in the score. My guess is that Poulenc put it there. My choir is singing it this year from the 1952 Editions Salabert, which, I would guess also, was set while the manuscript was still wet from his hand. And, for closure, the first note the bass sings is also that same B flat.
I have just found this piece of music for the very first time, embarresingly never heard of Poulence before, only found it looking for the vespers by rachmanininoff.
beautiful piece of music,am becoming a lover of choral music.thank you for posting.
the music for me is like a corridor between our world and that of heavenly bodies.beautiful and thanks for posting
My choral conductor sang often with this group. Not sure if he's on this recording. A beautiful performance. And DAMN! Low basses pulling out a low Bb at the end! Bravo.
I love this! I sang it about 10 years ago and can still sing it fairly well despite being over 65 years. Love the very minimal vibrato and excellent pitch!!!!!!!!!
I'm presuming the Hodie and Quem Vidistis Pastores videos you have are by the same choir? It would be lovely to hear their recording of the remaining motet :)
I just heard this tonight at a small concert at the local church. Sung by a filharmonic choir, it nearly brought tears to my eyes. So very, very beautiful.
I don't know why everyone voted your comment down. The low Bb is definitely not in the score and it is impressive. They sing it perfectly smooth. I chuckle when I hear it as well.
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Laryngoskopie 3 months ago
I'm not discounting Robert Shaw's decision to put the low Bb in. (and I'm referring to the one two leger lines under the bass stave; which is heard here and which is absolutely NOT in the printed score) Poulenc may well have approved his decision to put this note in. But it's gilding the lily, surely.
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so beautiful
mysterymanxd 4 months ago
@ pawdaw: Speaking as a bass -- because we can.
randwatters 4 months ago 2
all the people arguing on here....wow... i had hoped that educated people would be more mature than the people that argue on every pop/rock singers' videos. but alas even here people have to prove that they are right.
Mayacka 4 months ago 2
Omg people who cares about that last note? Its freaking BEAUTIFUL! that's all that matters:) I still wish my choir was doin this piece:/
TheHannajoh 4 months ago
Looking at the score. The last note, the basses have the Bb one octave and a whole step below middle C. That's not out of place.
In this *performance*, some basses drop the bottom out and take the Bb and octave below THAT. That's an interpretive decision, not the composer's writing. So when you--as a director--do the piece, YMMV.
mastersinger47 5 months ago
@pawdaw wth? this piece is in Bb minor! of course there's a Bb in the last chord! its just a standard tierce de piccardie ending lol...?
soicancommentonvids 5 months ago
とてもおじょうずです!高音が綺麗…いい曲ですね!
ravellove05 5 months ago
All the discussion regarding dissonants and whatever.
There are NO dissonants in this beautiful peace of music.
I did my solvege lessons very very well!!!
This music is from heaven!!!! Just beautifull cords.
Perhaps the advanced listener discover the diminished 7 chords.
Some not advanced listeners perhaps are regarding that as dissonant
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Lurkatz 5 months ago
Every sonic and every chord is of a unknown beauty!!!
I need boxes of tissues!!!
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JesusPaid4You 5 months ago
this piece is unbelievably beautiful, whatever the chord
lozzag13 5 months ago
I have no idea what any of you are talking about. I hear nothing dissonant in this piece... It sounds beautiful to me. Not that dissonance can't be beautiful. That would be absurd. Maybe it's Eliot Carter who said, The more I listen to dissonance, the more consonant it wounds, and the more I listen to consonance, the more dissonant it sounds." I'd have to agree with him completely.
mightyafrowhitey 6 months ago
@mightyafrowhitey I completely agree with you! I have nothing to be added to your statement
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Good I's Very Very beautiful
Anna59990 7 months ago
Lovely!
merceesbeatrizcampos 8 months ago
Bb or not this piece is absurdly beautiful
saminnyc 11 months ago
Traditional....still traditional.....Where's Poulenc?......discrete vocal dissonance! There he is!! And if he didn't end with that nonconventional low Bb the piece would be incomplete. In some of his pieces he has a knack for traditional writing adding a hint of 20th century. It's absolutely perfect!
YIUEOR 1 year ago
Poulenc seemed to have this really strange obsession with obtuse dissonance...rather displeasing to my ears. I'll stick with the Lauridsen version as performed by the Nordic Chamber choir instead.
Lomitus 1 year ago
@Lomitus By obtuse dissonance, do you mean dissonant intervals by voices on different ends of the spectrum? I don't quite get what you're saying there. I myself love Poulenc's music, as well as Lauridsen's. This piece does seem rather traditional and a bit out of character for Poulenc, though. Then again, I haven't analyzed his music too much.
MrPoog 1 year ago
This setting of the text might be the most fitting and evocative. It conveys the mystery of the birth while hinting at the darkness and pain lying in wait in the child's future.
IlGattonero13 1 year ago 3
I love this piece. Singing it now in my choir, as well.
KamuntKurush 1 year ago
I can understand why you might think the low Bb is just wrong for the chord. It's not traditional. But it's something I would want to include in that chord as well, if I were composing this. There's something large, open, and icy about that last chord. Like you're in a bright castle made of ice, but you're completely warm and at home in it. Or, you're standing on a mesa, staring out over a wide landscape as a slight breeze blows around you.
That Bb belongs.
MrPoog 1 year ago 23
@MrPoog that's because it's poulenc :)
cleanmyroomforme 1 year ago
@MrPoog Or when you're standing in a woodworking shop and you realize that you, too, are a tool?
henryr16 7 months ago
@henryr16 What a fantastically constructed statement. You should go to law school!
MrPoog 7 months ago
that low note has as much place as anything else in the piece. love it. doing this one right now in one of the choirs I'm in.
BandGuru01 1 year ago 3
I agree with pawdaw. Doesn't matter that the basses *can* do the low Bb well... it definitely has no place there.
quelasol 1 year ago
This gives me chills!<3 My choir is singing this atm.
FFailing 1 year ago
what is that low Bb doing there in the last chord??
pawdaw 1 year ago 4
@pawdaw I kind of like it
luxemkingII 1 year ago
@pawdaw The low B flat is there because it's in the score. My guess is that Poulenc put it there. My choir is singing it this year from the 1952 Editions Salabert, which, I would guess also, was set while the manuscript was still wet from his hand. And, for closure, the first note the bass sings is also that same B flat.
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gg666123456 3 months ago
My concert choir is doing this beautiful piece for our christmas concert and i LOVE IT so so much!
Kentuckykay 1 year ago
Any man who can write like this is incredible. Singing part of the Metamorphoses (C'est Ainsi que tu est) this semester. Gorgeous work.
koochitykoo 2 years ago
I have just found this piece of music for the very first time, embarresingly never heard of Poulence before, only found it looking for the vespers by rachmanininoff.
beautiful piece of music,am becoming a lover of choral music.thank you for posting.
the music for me is like a corridor between our world and that of heavenly bodies.beautiful and thanks for posting
tantalumdom 2 years ago 2
Sweet memories...learned this 40 years ago.
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My choral conductor sang often with this group. Not sure if he's on this recording. A beautiful performance. And DAMN! Low basses pulling out a low Bb at the end! Bravo.
clarksc1988 2 years ago
I love this! I sang it about 10 years ago and can still sing it fairly well despite being over 65 years. Love the very minimal vibrato and excellent pitch!!!!!!!!!
lyricalaska 2 years ago
I'm presuming the Hodie and Quem Vidistis Pastores videos you have are by the same choir? It would be lovely to hear their recording of the remaining motet :)
hannahkross 2 years ago
I just heard this tonight at a small concert at the local church. Sung by a filharmonic choir, it nearly brought tears to my eyes. So very, very beautiful.
Aslaug75 2 years ago
This song gives me chills...I remember singing it in my high school chamber choir. Thank you for this recording. It's beautifully done.
InvictusMentis 2 years ago 3
Wow. I know this piece quite well, and the singers solve all difficult parts with ease and perfection.
briffid 2 years ago
Poulenc's music is absolutely beautiful. magnificent.
guth2391 2 years ago
hahaha basses! that final note, while definitely not in the score, is quite impressive.
pirlouit00 2 years ago
I don't know why everyone voted your comment down. The low Bb is definitely not in the score and it is impressive. They sing it perfectly smooth. I chuckle when I hear it as well.
haggar719 2 years ago
this is the best I've heard this song...
disposableteenager 2 years ago
Thank you sopranos for NOT pinching those notes! Tenors you rock. WELL DONE ALL!!!
orionslvgrl 2 years ago
when i learnt this song, it was hard and i did know it can be so angelic and nice :) beautiful song and wonderful choir :)
legendlegacy408 2 years ago
Yeah!!! Nice work people. Thank you for this memory. I love the movement and the clean tone
SingInTune 3 years ago
beautifully done
felixthecateika 3 years ago