we are negationist we are on almost all videos dedicated to the armenian genocide .. it is our business ... we make money. our pseudos: NETCAP 01 IBUYUKURAN KILLERAREARMENIANS (of course we have been well brainwashed by our officeers) CUBURAK SUAVIDEO CADVENTOR + co..... we spend 10 hours a day only on videos dedicated to the armenian genocide we are well paid by the office of propaganda for the denial of the armenian genocide .. Turkish Army controls our country
In this world, which is so plainly the antechamber of another, there are no happy men. The true division of humanity is between those who live in light and those who live in darkness. Our aim must be to diminish the number of the latter and increase the number of the former. That is why we demand education and knowledge without Article 301 as most Turks still live in the darkness when it comes to their history"
It hasnt been a hundred years since the aforementioned genocide you dumb fuck 1915-2008=93yrs and they dont go to international court because it is biased turkey spends so much money hiding the truth that im sure it woulnt mind spending millions more trying to bribe the court to rule their way and once more im not armenian you turk cocksuckers
why is it so unbelievable that Muslims actually did this? its in their holy book to do this.. so don't deny it cuz it isn't the first time in history.
100,000 Armenians Join the Nazi Army to help Hitler find and create an Aryan race. By killing Thousands of children in the name of science, World war 2.
What about Armenian Terrorist group?
WHat about Turkey beating Armenia 2-0 In Soccer last month Lol Jokes!!
FACT 1: Demographic studies prove that prior to World War I, fewer than 1.5 million Armenians lived in the entire Ottoman Empire. Thus, allegations that more than 1.5 million Armenians from eastern Anatolia died must be false.FACT 2: Armenian losses were few in comparison to the over 2.5 million Muslim dead from the same period.FACT 3: Certain oft-cited Armenian American evidence is of diminished value, having been derived from dubious and prejudicial sources.
THANK YOU! This is the best comment against the position of the video that I have received (at least that I can remember right now). Most people approach this with a "fuck you and your views" attitude. Feel free to post more comments or a video response.
Fact 1 is not true. Fact 2 is irrelevant and stupid. Fact 3 I am living proof it happened when my great grandma used to talk about it. They killed her husband and one of her kids before she escaped with her remaining children. Why would she lie?
FACT 1: Demographic studies prove that prior to World War I, fewer than 1.5 million Armenians lived in the entire Ottoman Empire. Thus, allegations that more than 1.5 million Armenians from eastern Anatolia died must be false.FACT 2: Armenian losses were few in comparison to the over 2.5 million Muslim dead from the same period.FACT 3: Certain oft-cited Armenian American evidence is of diminished value, having been derived from dubious and prejudicial sources.
people are so ignorant. they feel the need to fight over who killed more people in order for this tragedy to be considered a genocide. you don't have to agree with anything, you don't have to say a word either, but to tell everyone who has been affected by the Armenian Genocide to "fuck off" is like telling your dying mother to blow you. I bet your fatass can't even go a day without food. how about a week? a month? Educate yourself, or stay silent.
genocide?there is no so this....it is your lie...and the other countries?like Israel to Palestine,USA to Vietnam,France to Algeria and like that?nobody talk about them?Armenia,you are the puppet of Europe....fuck off
Prof. Colin Tatz, Director, Centre for Comparative Genocide Studies [Center for Genocide Studies Newsletter, (December 1995-January 1996.
"The Turkish denial of the Armenian Genocide is probably the foremost example of historical perversion. With a mix of academic sophistication and diplomatic thuggery of which we at Macquarie University Sydney have been targets the Turks have put both memory and history into reverse gear."
All we ask is for you to recognize the Armenian Genocide. We don't ask for money. We dont use it as an excuse to kill, destroy, or occupy other countries. We definetly don't deny the genocides of other race's. And we sure don't alter history to favor our cause. But the Armenian Genocide is history now. If we don't agree on what constitutes a genocide, the Palestinians will be history too. They are dealing with a particular enemy.
All we ask for is for you to recognize the Armenian Genocide. We don't ask for money. We don't use the genocide as an excuse to kill ,destroy, or occupy other's lands. And we don't alter history. We don't label other human beings as 'terrorists'. And we definetly don't deny the genocides of other races. The Armenian genocide is history now. And if we don't enlighten ourselves soon enough, so will be the Palestinians.
Turkey accuses perished Assyrians and Armenians and now Kurds of treason. According to this viewpoint it is the murdered party that is at fault, not the murderers themselves.
The only community, which has no fault about the events that took place in 1915, is the Turkish nation and the Young Turks.All are guilty of something or other, the missionaries, the Armenians,the Assyrians, Greeks, the Protestant Church, the Hamidiye Corps,the French, the English and the Russians.Poor misunderstood Turkey
WHAT A GREAT LIE ... Congratulations a almost thought it was truth... Another HOLOCAUST goto-bed story and hate Muslims..Bravo... USA is killing 1 mio muslims a year.. Isnt that a revenge enough ??
"Most Americans do not understand what happened to Armenians; too often news organizations have ignored this part of world history. We strongly believe in the power of truth to come through in debate." -Jacoba Atlas
whats the meaning of this 20 centurie thing? fuck of. what happened to the genocides before. and yes ofcourse this was a genocide, but commited by both armenians and turks. THIS WAS A CIVIL WAR! the armenians killed turks and kurds in erzurum. you think the armenians who came with the russians just walked by the turkish vilages? bullshit. we all know they massacred hundreds of thousands ok? so fuck off.
whats the meaning of this 20 centurie thing? fuck of. what happened to the genocides before. and yes ofcourse this was a genocide, but commited by both armenians and turks. THIS WAS A CIVIL WAR! the armenians killed turks and kurds in erzurum. you think the armenians who came with the russians just walked by the turkish vilages? bullshit. we all know they massacred hundreds of thousands ok? so fuck off.
The reason why Turkey will never admit to genocide is purely down to one things...financial devastation. If Turkey admitted to the genocide can you imagine the money they would have to compensate the Armenians. They would be be fucked.
But one thing I can never understand...for a country like Israel you would have thought they would support this cause...but the irony was they were paying Turkey to get their piece of land.
No, the reason is because of the large Turkish-Jewish Population in Turkey whom are the descendants of Ottoman Jews. They were also subjected to violence and murdered by Armenians when not siding w their 'cause'. Not everyone believes in the Armenians lies..
Why is it that people in Turkey are cowards over this whole armenian genocide issue? Yes cowards, stand up and face your fears, acknowledge your history and stop trying to ban that moment of time from existence, it won't happen, people won't forget. They keep trying to pretend it didn't happen, and that is doing a disservice to everyone who was screwed over by the Turks. They can't just act like it never happened.Stop censoring past history. Staying in denial about it, won't lead to progress.
lies . where are the tributes to all the turks who were killed by armenians? if this was a genocide how is it that armenians in istanbul are still there ! there were never 2 million armenians in turkey . all sources armenian and turkish agree that there was a population from 800 00 to 1.8 million armenians.
...Exposing the Myth of the so called "Genocide" of Ottoman Armenians that many racist/fascist & anti-turkish Propagandists still try to SELL to you 90 years on!
4 million Ottoman civilians died as a result of the turmoil of World War One.
Only about one fourth were Ottoman Armenians!
3 million Ottoman-Turkish civilians were slaughtered when Armenian guerillas & Russian troops held the Eastern Ottoman region!
June 20, 1984 - Vienna, Austria: A bomb explodes in a vehicle owned by the Assistant Labor and Social Affairs Counselor of the Turkish Embassy, Erdogan Ozen, killing Ozen and seriously injuring five Austrian nationals, including two law enforcement officers. The "Armenian Revolutionary Army" of the JCAG (Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide) claims responsibility for the attack.
The young turks movement in late 1800's was being supported by Armenians too,it isn't that hard to figure it out why Hamid did target Armenians so bad. haven't you ever heard the old Expression such as it goes,=when you convert The Vine into Vinager,That becomes A very strong Vinegar,,Sarapdan donen Sirke Keskin Olur,,Understood?
As an Honest Real native Muslim Turk of Istanbul/Constantinye,,I also will have to agree with Sepoyan1,yes indeed,AG is a part of our shamefull Ottoman Turkish and Modern Turkey's History no need to Deny it anymore,enough is enough of this shamefull act,We are going to be isolated from the rest of the World if we keep in our stuborn fake Denial and must face the truth and our real History,sooner or later B/C USA says so,LOL.
If the conver the Vine into Vinager,that's a very strong Vinager at all,,Sharaptan donen sirke Keskin olur,, That's your answer,that's why he was trying to proof how much turk/Muslim he was to the oppositions who wanted him down,Easy and simple answer of your question,period.
Sultan Hamid's mother was armenian. Why would he try to wipe out the race that he half belongs to? These "Hamidian Massacres" as you call them cannot have been orchestrated and authorised by a man who is 50% descended from that race. All groups of civilians conducted violence against one another. This is civil strife and war..NOT GENOCIDE!
Denielists will keep daydreaming and will still keep repeating but once the reality kicks in their asses,they will probably become the most amazing Pussy Cats,sorry dudes.
Armenians should not be talking about humanity at all! After shedding the blood of thousands of innocent Muslim community in Eastern Anatolia and committing bestial crimes against it back in the 1915, they've committed hideous atrocities against Azerbaijani people in Daglık Karabag! Fishing for some cheep unfounded sympathy of poorly informed and naive Westerners by putting forward all those pics and falsified facts will not change the course of history.
Terrorist essence of armenian pseudo-patriots also displayed IN OCTOBER OF 1999, WHEN A GROUP OF TERRORISTS (FROM "DASHNAKTSUTYUN") CAPTURED ARMENIAN PARLIAMENT, KILLED THE PRIME MINISTER, THE SPEAKER, AND A NUMBER OF PARLIAMENT MEMBERS. inflamed by imaginary "ideology" and led by armenian church, armenian chauvinists became certain in their infallibility and started uncovered aggression against Azerbaijan.
PLEASE LETS ALL STOP THIS HATRED PEOPLE. STOP IT< BEFORE IT STOPS US ALL. i hope one day everyone forgets and forgives the past, and so we all can live happily together. If we can't stop this hate, we cant go any forward in this life...
Turkey opened state archives and offered historians from both country and other countries historians that both countries would agree to find the truth. Guess what? Armenians refused."
Can anybody answer why Armenia is refusing an objective historical resarch , but prefers gossip and chats.
THOSE FOREIGNERS WHO have little or NO INFO on this topic, please WATCH "armenian so called genocide episodes" here on you tube. Turkey was victim as much as armenians IF NOT MORE. This document INCLUDES HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS not only by Turkey but by foreign nations and ARMENIANS saying it isn't so.
When Turkish president ask Armenian President that we should BOTH bring our HISTORICAL PAPERS, submit it to historians to get to bottom of this, ARMENIANS DECLINED, why?
Despite a very assertive and aggressive campaign to get the version conveyed by the armenian diaspora, claiming the events leading to the deaths of a disputed number of armenians in Anatolia, to be declared as a genocide.Have yet only 22 countries, within a 95 year time span, expressed their support in subscribing to this adaptation.
It seems the majority is not easily persuaded by the case presented by this very active pressure group, nor should they as the evidence is hardly conclusive.
Turkish Government wants a uncomitted history investigate Comission but Armenia dont want any investigate because there angry thats there great Genocide lie are developed!
whoever wants to see from war, search kurtulus savasi and watch the first video real war time,see Turkish soldier(old women) that Armenian complain about genocide,See Turkish soldier...See how did we protect the country.See if it was a war or genocide.Armenian and Greek killed Turks.Armenian betrayed Ottoman and joined the enemy to get dirt cos they thought Ottoman gonna lose the war.Armenian be a man and say Armenian lost the war,Don't be a liar.
whoever wants to see from war, search kurtulus savasi and watch the first video real war time,see Turkish soldier(old women) that Armenian complain about genocide,See Turkish soldier...See how did we protect the country.See if it was a war or genocide.Armenian and Greek killed Turks.Armenian betrayed Ottoman and joined the enemy to get dirt cos they thought Ottoman gonna lose the war.Armenian be a man and say Armenian lost the war,Don't be a liar.
poor armenian propaganda!you can´t rewrite historical truths with money and lies.proofs are basics for history which you don´t have.You slaughtered us turks in anatolia,killed azerbaycan turks in hocali,occupied karabag and asala has assassinated over 70 turkish ambassadors all over the world.and we CAN proof all these things!come and look at the turkish massgraves in anatolia.armenians have committed genocide against TURKS.FACING THE TRUTH IS SO HARD FOR YOU
"I would like to dedicate this book to the memory of Haji Halil, a devout Muslim Turk, who saved the members of an Armenian family from deportation and death by keeping them safely hidden for over half a year, risking his own life."
Now, if there was no Armenian Genocide, why would this Turkish man take such a rare action? Think about it denialists!
"One provincial governor wrote to Sultan Abdul Hamit: "50,000 Armenians fled across the border, 30,000 are still hiding in the woods, 45,000 have converted to Islam and 10,000 probably died. Thanks to Your Majesty's wise measures the Muslims are now everywhere in the majority." The Sultan declared in 1897 that 'the Armenian question' was now 'closed'. Unfortunately, it wasn't.
The Genocide problem is maintained due to Turks' complex of inferiority, according to him.
"If there is no repentance and comprehension of what really took place, such issues will be always a subject for speculation. With a burden like the Armenian Genocide, it will be extremely hard for Turkey to join the European Union," Malashenko underscored.
The states, which were sinners in history, should repent. There are plenty of countries throughout the globe arguing about necessity to recognize some historical facts. Turkey will have to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide sooner or later," expert of Moscow Carnegie Center Alexander Malashenko said during Yerevan-Moscow space bridge.
James Sheehan, a professor of history at Stanford University said extensive documentation supports defining the atrocities as genocide;
Sheehan said evidence that Turks tried to obliterate their Armenian population is visible throughout eastern Turkey, which had been home to Armenians for 2,500 years.
"I've spent some time in eastern Turkey, and it's quite remarkable that there's virtually no trace of the Armenian population that lived there for centuries"
The genocide took place when Ottoman Koerds had to deportade the Armenians to Syria in order of the Turks, it was told them only to deportade, not kill. But the koerds abused the women en children.
Atatürk then said: A very shamefull act. What happened has happened, this cannot be changed, but one thing can be changed; the friendship of Turkey and Armenia. If Armenians are going to see me on the street, are they just simply gonna kill me because I'm Turkish?
ıt was war .Countries which you mentioned ,made lots of genocide in africa and asia .Who cares they accepted armenian genocide(totally lie ).Take a look around the world Iraq , kongo, hiroşima let me know who accepts the genoside .I wish turks killed more armenian to shut their mouths .If we did why so many armenian still live in heart of turkey.Arent they your citizens still alive . Dont say lies to yourself . Dont be the puppet of politics .Live with your honors .
We are as a Kurdish Nation from Kurdistan ERBIL CITY support Armenia To recognize it as a Genocide and International Crime and Bloody Turkey Gov. Should pay bill for it.
This is Turkey's case made eloquently by Bernard Lewis, the great historian of the Middle East.
If you still can't understand why Turks are so strongly opposed to the word genocide after watching it then there is no hope for reconciliation with you.
Armenians were forced to move because Armenian guerillas killed civilians in eastern Anatolia. Even today's democratic states would not tolerate Armenian hinchak terrorist organization. Yet it is a war time situation in which Armenian guerillas are fighting with Russian army against Ottoman army. Armenian citizens of western Anatolia were not forced to move.
Ottoman Empire lasted more than 600 years and more than 20 different ethnic peoples were living within the empire: Turks, Arabs, Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians, Egyptians, Albanians, Macedonians, Jews, Bosnians, Circassians, Assyrians etc. The list goes on. YOU CAN NOT SIMPLY RULE ALL THESE DIFFERENT ETHNIC PEOPLES MORE THAN 600 YEARS BY SHEER BRUTALITY!!! So, no one should never ever try to give a lesson of civilization and democracy to Turks.
The land of devil, where millions of Greeks,Armenians, Georgians, Kurds were killed! Turks live on bones, and they drink blood! Turkey is Hell!!! God will punish them! Stop! Stop killings!
Yes, unfortunately there is a nation of killers on this planet. So if you help turks to continue killing and denying, so remember, that God will punish you.
House committee approves Armenian genocide resolution
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The House Foreign Affairs Committee Wednesday evening narrowly approved a resolution labeling as "genocide" the mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turkish forces during and after World War I, despite a full-court press against it by President Bush and top administration officials.
The association of Mount Ararat and Noah, the staunch Christians who were massacred periodically by the Mohammedan Turks, and the Sunday School collections over fifty years for alleviating their miseries—all cumulate to impress the name Armenia on the front of the American mind.
There are Turks who don't admit that their ancestors committed genocide. If you look at it though, they seem to be nice people... So why don't they admit it? Because they think that genocide is a bad thing which they would never want to commit, and because they can't believe their ancestors would do such a thing either.
Mr. Speaker, with mixed emotions we mark the 50th anniversary of the Turkish genocide of the Armenian people. In taking notice of the shocking events in 1915, we observe this anniversary with sorrow in recalling the massacres of Armenians and with pride in saluting those brave patriots who survived to fight on the side of freedom during World War I. - Congressional Record, pg. 8890
Report of Wangenheim, German ambassador in the Ottoman Empire on June 17, 1915 -
" Deportation of the Armenians from their homes in the vilayets of Eastern Anatolia, and their resettlement in other regions is implemented cruelly it becomes obvious that deportation of the Armenians arises not only from military necessity." Talaat said: "The Sublime Porte intends to make use of the world war for cleaning the whole country from local Christians".
Till today, Poland, Argentina, Belgium, Canada, France, Greece, Italy, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, the Vatican, the European Parliament, Lebanon, Cyprus, Uruguay, the Council of Europe, 39 states from the United States of America have all reaffirmed THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE. Their common message is to address:
1 - Injustices against Armenians by Turks.
2 - Crimes against humanity will not be tolerated.
yeah ,that's right,,what a big BS of the TC Governement,,
You guys may believe to the rewriten history introduced to you new young Turkish generation but as long as we older or Midaged Turks are still around ,we won't . Our fathers and grandfathers told us all about how they killed ,raped,then stole the innocent Ottoman Armenians.
They forced groups of Armenians into caves and then set brush fires at the entrances to deplete all the oxygen and asphyxiate the victims.
The Turks save a special fate for the children. The lucky ones were just burned alive or taken out in boats which were capsized in the middle of the sea. That was much quicker than the fate that befell the pretty ones. The prettiest girls and boys from the age of about 10 upwards were reprieved long enough to be raped and tortured.
The Armenian leaders and intellectuals were rounded up first. After these were killed, the slaughter of the general population began. In seven provinces of Anatolia, 90% of the able-bodied men were killed outright. Most of the rest of the population was deported out into the desert to starve in primitive versions of concentration camps. The Turks even beat the Germans to the idea of gas chambers, even if they lacked the technology.
Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister. April 27, 1994 on the floor of the Knesset in response to a TV interview of the Turkish Ambassador
It was not war. It was most certainly massacre and genocide, something the world must remember... We will always reject any attempt to erase its record, even for some political advantage.
Why the Americans who claim to be Christians, are the staunchest ally of the Turks who committed GENOCIDE on the FIRST CHRISTIAN NATION OF THE WORLD, the Armenians? Why are Jews suppressing knowledge of the Armenian genocide in order to curry favor with the Turks who just elected an Islamist government? What does Christ tell George Bush when He speaks to the president? that screwing the first Christian nation of the world is in our national interest perhaps, as the State Department claims it is?
...the Armenian massacre was the greatest crime of the war, and the failure to act against Turkey is to condone it ... the failure to deal radically with the Turkish horror means that all talk of guaranteeing the future peace of the world is mischievous nonsense.
Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister. April 27, 1994 on the floor of the Knesset in response to a TV interview of the Turkish Ambassador
It was not war. It was most certainly massacre and genocide, something the world must remember... We will always reject any attempt to erase its record, even for some political advantage.
Minister of Interior stated on 13 December 1918...
Unfortunately, our wartime leaders, imbued with a spirit of brigandage, carried out the law of deportation in a manner that could surpass the proclivities of the most bloodthirsty bandits. They decided to exterminate the Armenians, and they did exterminate them.
David Lloyd George former British Prime Minister said in 1914 that:
The Turks are a human cancer, a creeping agony in the flesh of the lands which they misgovern, rotting every fibre of life ... I am glad that the Turk is to be called to a final account for his long record of infamy against humanity
it is very sad to see how agressive turks are when it comes to admit what they did in past. Armenian Genocide recognition is based purely on facts and truth - not Armenian or Turkish lobbying - that's why
so many countries had already recognized it. Let's hope turks one day will follow their educated countrymen Orhan Pamuk and learn the truth about turkish past especially Young Turks commiting the first Genocide of modern days...
total exteremintion my ass if thats what we wanted thats what we couldhave done to the orospu cocugu for the past 750 lies lies and more lies the truth will set you free
you know including people that actually did suffer something by other with your own lie doesnt make your lie closer to the truth. stop begging for sympathy you liars
The Armenians were not the only Christians in Anatolia Turkey targeted during the same period. 1.5 million Armenians were victims of Genocide, 275,000 Assyro-Chaldeans, and 360,000 Greeks also fell victim to Genocide. There is no excuse or false propaganda stories that can account for this. It was GENOCIDE against their Christian population, in order to create a pan-Turkic state.
Starting to fight against Turks under alliance with the Western powers despite all the good intentions of Turks, the Armenians initiated a campaign to present themselves as a subjugated society and to accuse the Ottoman Empire of "having annihilated" their sovereignty rights in Anatolia. Armenian genocide is full of lie..
In preparation for revolt,Armenian revolutionaries had stored vast stockpiles of weapons,largely provided or paid by the Russian government.These were kept primarily in Armenian villages and were obviously well-hidden from Ottoman authorities,an indication of the lack of Ottoman control in the region before the war.
Not coincidentally,the Armenian revolt in eastern Anatolia began as soon as the Russians realized that the Ottoman Empire would go to war.Before Russia declared war on 2 November 1914,Armenian guerrillas had already begun to organize into guerrilla bands.
IranAryana - Armenian Genocide is a crime against humanity only for CIVILIZED world! Most of Civilized World recognized it - I guess turkey is not there yet... they still have a long way to go.. Let's hope they will open their eyes one day.
5 mln indians killed when Spain occupied North America, 30 mln russians (soviet) people killed in the II world War, by armenian logic, now Russia should raise a problem "russian/soviet genocide" ?? See, Russia and Germany now are partners, and I 'd say very close partners. So guys, leave history on the past, stop agitation against Azerbaijan and Turkey, lets forget the history, think our children.
They just want to be like jewish people, it means they want Turkey pay them money every month, and they also want to enter every country they want without visa like jewish. ARMENIANS DON'T CARE ABOUT FUCKING GENOCIDE, THEY ARE JJUST LOOKING FOR BETTER LIFE...How poor you are mother fuckers :)
These things happened! But they will happen again if we pretend we look on to the future and forget the past. Nooone must allow the killers of civilisations make ironies over this issue. Even though they have not yet been punished by human justice, there is a Divine Justice to which they will sooner or later be answerable.
Many of the Armenians who were killed between 1915-1923 died because the Armenians waged war against practically every nation they were physically able to come in contact with,including not only the Turks but also,after 1918,the Russians,Georgians,and Azerbaijanis.
Isn't the murder of Turks who were not even born in 1915 ignorantly illogical?On July 31,1980,Galip Ozmen,the Turkish attaché in Athens,Greece,was assassinated along with his daughter,Neslihan.Why haven't Armenians denounced ASALA terrorists yet?Haven't they heard of a legal principle in which criminal guilt is generally regarded strictly personal not inherited from father to son?
What did Dr.Robert John say?He is a historian of Armenian descent who had researched the authenticity of the alleged Hitler quote!Read the article "Historian of Armenian Descent Says Frequently Used Hitler Quote Is Nothing But a Forgery,"on The Armenian Reporter,August 2,1984, p.1
"At the All-Armenian National Congress held in Tiflis in February 1913,it was revealed that the Russian government had given the Dashnaks over two hundred thousand roubles to arm the Turkish Armenians and provoke their uprising at an opportune moment"(Firuz Kazemzadeh,The Struggle for Transcaucasia,New York, 1951,p.26).Kazemzadeh states that the Russians repented their actions later,when they realized the Dashnaks had different plans for eastern Anatolia than did the Russians(pp.26 and 27).
"During the first year of the war,the Ottomans were occupied with Armenian revolts all over eastern Anatolia.Only the revolt in Van was successful,but the other revolts caused great loss of life and significantly harmed the Ottoman war effort.The Armenians of Zeytun,always restive under Ottoman control,rebelled in August of 1914,before the war began,primarily as a protest against conscription."
"Armenian revolutionaries seized the city of Van from the Ottoman government on 13 and 14 April 1915 and held it against besieging Ottoman troops who had been quickly brought up from Bitlis and the Russian front. The Russians took advantage of the revolt.Against the lightly held Ottoman frontier,they sent a force made up of Armenian volunteer units(approximately 4,000 Armenians,mainly from the Caucasus),Armenian guerrilla units(from the Caucasus and Anatolia),and a brigade of Cossacks."
"The war in the east began on 2 November 1914,when Russian forces moved south to occupy the border regions of Bayazit,Diyadin,and Karakilise."(Caucasian Wars,W.E.D.Allen and Paul Muratoff,Caucasian Battlefields,Cambridge,1953)
That's why we again became part of Russian Empire, this time called Soviet Union...Looking at how u Turks portray us I sometimes think u r talking abt mega Empira with independabt state, powerful militaru, millions of people...even now, 92 years later we r far away from that lol...
And come on Eso...we have known each other for ages now lol u r not really saying when in 1920 independant , only 2 years old Armenia was attacked both by Turkey and Russia we could really oppose any of u ...u do realise we r talking abt handful Armos and endless Turks and Russians...plus we were recovering after the genocide and during 2 years we hardly could have any proper defence...military
No, and they don't even make sense,Eso..Armenians didn't have independant state in 1915, no govt, no military, nothing...just opressed under Ottoma rule...
Western Armenia was part of Ottoman Empire, Eastern Armenia( nowdays Armenia) was part of Russian Empire...
If he is right why he always was hiding behind "Holdwater" and now has stopped his activity? Why doesn't come out and defend his " point of view"?
Taner Akcam is a reknown human right activist, Historian teaching in US but Holdwater called him a terrorist, accused him in organising killings of American people...Now he is scared to be sued for his blatant lies
Turks have the moon on their flag? Why? During Mohammeds time Allah was the name of the Moon god that people worshipped. So he was referring to the Moon god, not the same God as the Jews and Christians. Turks are a satanic people that only like to destory !
Incorrect. The moon and star was a common Byzantine (East-Roman) symbol. After Mehmeds conquest of Constantinople the symbol became more widely used by Moslems and today it signifies Islam.
You are wrong.Hazzlehoff ! The Moond god was a ancient worship of the Sumarians and than Arabs started the worship. During Muhammed time it was called Allah and it had 3 daughters (Alat,Uzza and Manat)This worship started in MECCA and they prayed towards the Idol! Than stories from the Torah and Bible were added. Koran had this verse erased Sura 58: 19-20 where Muhammed says the name of daughters of Allah to be praised. Pagan !
Esot...all ur misquotes are from notorious tallararmeniatales websites...Do u know that he removed his webpage because one of his slander victims Turkish Taner Akcam has found his true identity?
What I wrote are historical facts which have references in archives of Britain,France,Turkey,and theUSA.Also,check out Death and Exile:The Ethnic Cleansing of Ottoman Turks,1821-1922(Justin McCarthy-Darwin Press-1995) and Pursuing the Just Cause of Their People:A Study of Contemporary Armenian Terrorism.(Michael M. Gunter-GREENWOOD PRESS-1986)
many Islamists from different Muslim countries were fighting against Armenians in Arckah calling it Jihad:Chechens,Afghans,Lezgins,Abkhazs...Osama Bin Laden sent his Mujaheeds to kill Armenians...
People of Arcakh (80%Armenians) voted legally by referendum for independance just like Azerbaijan did to separate from USSR.Russians let Azeris go however Azeris started Armenian massacres in Azerbaian.Then they attacked Arcakh bombing town full of civilians..
Bristol blamed the French for the Armenians' troubles in Maras,because of their methods of occupation."Several thousand Turks" and 10,000 Armenians had been killed,including women and children on both sides.He stated that the Turks did massacre some Armenians,but that all was quiet once the French had evacuated.He also averred that Turkish Nationalists did not want to exterminate non-Muslims(U.S. 867.00/1179,Bristol to Secretary of State,Constantinople,23 March 1920).
Arcakh/Karabah has always been an ancient Armenian land wehich only recently ( in 1921) Stalin gave to Azerbaijan..which never became a prtof Azerbaijan but autonomic region and only under RUssian control.Azeris never had control over Arcakh/Karabakh, only Russians had...
A postwar British source stated that Armenians "massacred between three and four hundred thousand Kurdish people in the Van and Bitlis Districts,"mostly the work of Armenians in the Russian Army"(Interview of Col.Wooley of the British Army,12 September 1919,in U.S.184.021/265).
On June 5 the Chilean Senate unanimously adopted a resolution, which condemns the Armenian Genocide of 1915 perpetrated by the Ottoman Empire and called governments of all countries in the world to join the 1985 document by the UN Sub-Commission on Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities.
Now we know the face of "Holdwater" Murad Gumen - one of the most anti-Armenian Turkish-Americans on Earth and the webmaster of tallarmeniantale.con, a hate website that denies the Armenian Genocide and compares Armenians to rodents. He was representing himself as an American and that is where all Turks take their misquotes...
Included in her study were references to Armenian terrorist attacks undertaken to incite reprisals that it was hoped would lead to foreign intervention,plans to strike at the Ottoman state when it was at war and to seek help from foreign governments at such favorable opportunities,Armenian publications that EXAGGERATED Turkish atrocities,and more.
Louise Nalbandian who,although a confirmed Armenian patriot,was able to describe in a matter-of-fact way the secret Armenian revolutionary activities against the Ottoman state from 1860 on.
Professor Toynbee later did write that the Blue Book had been "duly published and distributed as war propaganda!"(Arnold J.Toynbee,The Western Question in Greece and Turkey:A Study in the Contact of Civilizations-Boston and New York:Houghton Mifflin, 1922),p.50)[I HAVE AN ADVICE TO ALL IMPERIALIST LIARS!IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE CONFESSIONS;MEDITATE ON YOUR OWN ATROCITIES!]
All in all,Nalbandian's analysis makes it clear the Armenians were not solely innocent victims of murderous Turks.(Please Read:Louise Nalbandian,The Armenian Revolutionary Movement:The Development of Armenian Political Parties Through the Nineteenth Century)
More than a half century after he had edited the Blue Book with Bryce;Toynbee,in his final statement on the subject,declared:"These...Armenian political aspirations had not been legitimate....Their aspirations did not merely threaten to break up the Turkish Empire;they could not be fulfilled without doing GRAVE INJUSTICE to the Turkish people itself.(Arnold J.Toynbee,Acquaintances(London:Oxford University Press,1967,p.241)
But the book is CONSIDERED A FORGERY not only by Turkish historians but by practically EVERY WESTERN student of Ottoman history.(The First Genocide of the 20th Century?;Author:Guenter Lewy)
In the face of this lack,Armenians have relied upon materials of questionable authenticity like The Memoirs of Naim Bey by Aram Andonian.The English edition of this book,first published in 1920,offers in evidence 30 ALLEGED TELEGRAMS by Talat Pasha,Turkey's minister of the interior,some of which order the killing of all Armenians irrespective of sex or age.
One of the problems bedeviling the Armenian side in this controversy is that NO AUTHENTIC documentary evidence exists to prove the culpability of the central government of Turkey for the massacre of 1915-16.
"the reason why the u.s is not recognizing the ARMENIAN GENCOIDE is because it doesnt want to hurt its ties with turkey". i mean after all, every nation needs another nation to wipe its ass with. apparently, the u.s has chosen turkey :)
have fun being ass wiped!
-I PROMISE U, THE ARMENIAN GENCOIDE WILL BE RECOGNIZED W/ OR W/OUT THE U.S -
Turks are using specally designed by their govt website for denying Armenian genocide. Bulgarians are demanding recognition of their genocide committed by Turks...so do Assyrians,Greeks,Lebanese Christians...
Istanbul is a Greek city Constantinople occupied by Turks in 1456...and yes, I feel for Greeks for their pain...Constantinople has much more history than Istanbul will ever have...Great Constantinople is always talked about!
Among Muslims arrested a couple of weeks ago in US plotting against US soldiers in Philadelfia was a Turk terrorist..last month Turks tortured for hours 3 Christians in Turkey..Malatya...actually athentic Armenian town...
thenegationistturks 2 years ago
Hitler learned Genoicede from Turkey I think...
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bokkurdistan 3 years ago
Orhan Pamuk April 24 2006
In this world, which is so plainly the antechamber of another, there are no happy men. The true division of humanity is between those who live in light and those who live in darkness. Our aim must be to diminish the number of the latter and increase the number of the former. That is why we demand education and knowledge without Article 301 as most Turks still live in the darkness when it comes to their history"
Kajandranik 3 years ago
It hasnt been a hundred years since the aforementioned genocide you dumb fuck 1915-2008=93yrs and they dont go to international court because it is biased turkey spends so much money hiding the truth that im sure it woulnt mind spending millions more trying to bribe the court to rule their way and once more im not armenian you turk cocksuckers
AsRokFails9 3 years ago
You armenians are pathetic to the core, rotten to the core.
Armenians using OTHER REAL GENOCIDES PICTURES to support their FALSE ALLEGATIONS
watch?v=cGU6s4i38I8
If your claims are valid, go to International Court, It's authorised to handle a genocide claim and it can enforce judgement
THe only reason why you have not done so for 100 years is because you are lying!
Your own prime minister WHOSE BOOK IS BANNED IN ARMENIA wrote about Armenian TREASON against its own government (Ottoman)
TruckerPhobia1 3 years ago
we dont need your hypocrasy
execute real democracy
post industrial society
the unthinking majority
this is so aimed at turkish liars
AsRokFails9 3 years ago
why is it so unbelievable that Muslims actually did this? its in their holy book to do this.. so don't deny it cuz it isn't the first time in history.
LeenaY88 3 years ago
100,000 Armenians Join the Nazi Army to help Hitler find and create an Aryan race. By killing Thousands of children in the name of science, World war 2.
What about Armenian Terrorist group?
WHat about Turkey beating Armenia 2-0 In Soccer last month Lol Jokes!!
CaseClosed23 3 years ago
FACT 1: Demographic studies prove that prior to World War I, fewer than 1.5 million Armenians lived in the entire Ottoman Empire. Thus, allegations that more than 1.5 million Armenians from eastern Anatolia died must be false.FACT 2: Armenian losses were few in comparison to the over 2.5 million Muslim dead from the same period.FACT 3: Certain oft-cited Armenian American evidence is of diminished value, having been derived from dubious and prejudicial sources.
CaseClosed23 3 years ago
THANK YOU! This is the best comment against the position of the video that I have received (at least that I can remember right now). Most people approach this with a "fuck you and your views" attitude. Feel free to post more comments or a video response.
albinosp4cemonky 3 years ago
Fact 1 is not true. Fact 2 is irrelevant and stupid. Fact 3 I am living proof it happened when my great grandma used to talk about it. They killed her husband and one of her kids before she escaped with her remaining children. Why would she lie?
shawbaby1111 2 years ago
FACT 1: Demographic studies prove that prior to World War I, fewer than 1.5 million Armenians lived in the entire Ottoman Empire. Thus, allegations that more than 1.5 million Armenians from eastern Anatolia died must be false.FACT 2: Armenian losses were few in comparison to the over 2.5 million Muslim dead from the same period.FACT 3: Certain oft-cited Armenian American evidence is of diminished value, having been derived from dubious and prejudicial sources.
CaseClosed23 3 years ago
people are so ignorant. they feel the need to fight over who killed more people in order for this tragedy to be considered a genocide. you don't have to agree with anything, you don't have to say a word either, but to tell everyone who has been affected by the Armenian Genocide to "fuck off" is like telling your dying mother to blow you. I bet your fatass can't even go a day without food. how about a week? a month? Educate yourself, or stay silent.
yourdarlingasya 3 years ago
genocide?there is no so this....it is your lie...and the other countries?like Israel to Palestine,USA to Vietnam,France to Algeria and like that?nobody talk about them?Armenia,you are the puppet of Europe....fuck off
rock05salih 3 years ago
Prof. Colin Tatz, Director, Centre for Comparative Genocide Studies [Center for Genocide Studies Newsletter, (December 1995-January 1996.
"The Turkish denial of the Armenian Genocide is probably the foremost example of historical perversion. With a mix of academic sophistication and diplomatic thuggery of which we at Macquarie University Sydney have been targets the Turks have put both memory and history into reverse gear."
Kajandranik 3 years ago 3
All we ask is for you to recognize the Armenian Genocide. We don't ask for money. We dont use it as an excuse to kill, destroy, or occupy other countries. We definetly don't deny the genocides of other race's. And we sure don't alter history to favor our cause. But the Armenian Genocide is history now. If we don't agree on what constitutes a genocide, the Palestinians will be history too. They are dealing with a particular enemy.
htspassion18 3 years ago
All we ask for is for you to recognize the Armenian Genocide. We don't ask for money. We don't use the genocide as an excuse to kill ,destroy, or occupy other's lands. And we don't alter history. We don't label other human beings as 'terrorists'. And we definetly don't deny the genocides of other races. The Armenian genocide is history now. And if we don't enlighten ourselves soon enough, so will be the Palestinians.
htspassion18 3 years ago
Turkey accuses perished Assyrians and Armenians and now Kurds of treason. According to this viewpoint it is the murdered party that is at fault, not the murderers themselves.
The only community, which has no fault about the events that took place in 1915, is the Turkish nation and the Young Turks.All are guilty of something or other, the missionaries, the Armenians,the Assyrians, Greeks, the Protestant Church, the Hamidiye Corps,the French, the English and the Russians.Poor misunderstood Turkey
Kajandranik 3 years ago 3
This is a very very BIG LIE... Another Holocaust.. What about the 1,5 mio Algerians killed between 1945 - 1960 ??
Maanchild 3 years ago
WHAT A GREAT LIE.... and hollywood style..
Maanchild 3 years ago
WHAT A GREAT LIE ... Congratulations a almost thought it was truth... Another HOLOCAUST goto-bed story and hate Muslims..Bravo... USA is killing 1 mio muslims a year.. Isnt that a revenge enough ??
Maanchild 3 years ago
"Most Americans do not understand what happened to Armenians; too often news organizations have ignored this part of world history. We strongly believe in the power of truth to come through in debate." -Jacoba Atlas
narek781 3 years ago 5
Turkey is GUILTY!!!!!!!!
shagenchik 3 years ago
whats the meaning of this 20 centurie thing? fuck of. what happened to the genocides before. and yes ofcourse this was a genocide, but commited by both armenians and turks. THIS WAS A CIVIL WAR! the armenians killed turks and kurds in erzurum. you think the armenians who came with the russians just walked by the turkish vilages? bullshit. we all know they massacred hundreds of thousands ok? so fuck off.
AzeriShia 3 years ago
whats the meaning of this 20 centurie thing? fuck of. what happened to the genocides before. and yes ofcourse this was a genocide, but commited by both armenians and turks. THIS WAS A CIVIL WAR! the armenians killed turks and kurds in erzurum. you think the armenians who came with the russians just walked by the turkish vilages? bullshit. we all know they massacred hundreds of thousands ok? so fuck off.
AzeriShia 3 years ago
To everyone
The reason why Turkey will never admit to genocide is purely down to one things...financial devastation. If Turkey admitted to the genocide can you imagine the money they would have to compensate the Armenians. They would be be fucked.
But one thing I can never understand...for a country like Israel you would have thought they would support this cause...but the irony was they were paying Turkey to get their piece of land.
So long as people remember, the cause is not lost
tgenos 3 years ago
No, the reason is because of the large Turkish-Jewish Population in Turkey whom are the descendants of Ottoman Jews. They were also subjected to violence and murdered by Armenians when not siding w their 'cause'. Not everyone believes in the Armenians lies..
tmoda61 3 years ago 2
Why is it that people in Turkey are cowards over this whole armenian genocide issue? Yes cowards, stand up and face your fears, acknowledge your history and stop trying to ban that moment of time from existence, it won't happen, people won't forget. They keep trying to pretend it didn't happen, and that is doing a disservice to everyone who was screwed over by the Turks. They can't just act like it never happened.Stop censoring past history. Staying in denial about it, won't lead to progress.
hrtjhrtjhtrjr 3 years ago
lies . where are the tributes to all the turks who were killed by armenians? if this was a genocide how is it that armenians in istanbul are still there ! there were never 2 million armenians in turkey . all sources armenian and turkish agree that there was a population from 800 00 to 1.8 million armenians.
tekke100 3 years ago
...Exposing the Myth of the so called "Genocide" of Ottoman Armenians that many racist/fascist & anti-turkish Propagandists still try to SELL to you 90 years on!
4 million Ottoman civilians died as a result of the turmoil of World War One.
Only about one fourth were Ottoman Armenians!
3 million Ottoman-Turkish civilians were slaughtered when Armenian guerillas & Russian troops held the Eastern Ottoman region!
barbaros01Pasa 3 years ago
June 20, 1984 - Vienna, Austria: A bomb explodes in a vehicle owned by the Assistant Labor and Social Affairs Counselor of the Turkish Embassy, Erdogan Ozen, killing Ozen and seriously injuring five Austrian nationals, including two law enforcement officers. The "Armenian Revolutionary Army" of the JCAG (Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide) claims responsibility for the attack.
oavunduk 3 years ago
The young turks movement in late 1800's was being supported by Armenians too,it isn't that hard to figure it out why Hamid did target Armenians so bad. haven't you ever heard the old Expression such as it goes,=when you convert The Vine into Vinager,That becomes A very strong Vinegar,,Sarapdan donen Sirke Keskin Olur,,Understood?
SafkanOsmansoylu 3 years ago
As an Honest Real native Muslim Turk of Istanbul/Constantinye,,I also will have to agree with Sepoyan1,yes indeed,AG is a part of our shamefull Ottoman Turkish and Modern Turkey's History no need to Deny it anymore,enough is enough of this shamefull act,We are going to be isolated from the rest of the World if we keep in our stuborn fake Denial and must face the truth and our real History,sooner or later B/C USA says so,LOL.
akillioglu 3 years ago 3
Turkey needs open minded, well informed people like you. This is the attitute, which will bring the two nations together once were united and strong.
ScepticHye 3 years ago
As the old Turkish sayins goes,
If the conver the Vine into Vinager,that's a very strong Vinager at all,,Sharaptan donen sirke Keskin olur,, That's your answer,that's why he was trying to proof how much turk/Muslim he was to the oppositions who wanted him down,Easy and simple answer of your question,period.
akillioglu 3 years ago
PLZ see mine movie to
Arthur Abrahamian
ARTXXX007 3 years ago
Sultan Hamid's mother was armenian. Why would he try to wipe out the race that he half belongs to? These "Hamidian Massacres" as you call them cannot have been orchestrated and authorised by a man who is 50% descended from that race. All groups of civilians conducted violence against one another. This is civil strife and war..NOT GENOCIDE!
piskopatciletci 3 years ago
Denielists will keep daydreaming and will still keep repeating but once the reality kicks in their asses,they will probably become the most amazing Pussy Cats,sorry dudes.
SafkanOsmansoylu 3 years ago
Armenians should not be talking about humanity at all! After shedding the blood of thousands of innocent Muslim community in Eastern Anatolia and committing bestial crimes against it back in the 1915, they've committed hideous atrocities against Azerbaijani people in Daglık Karabag! Fishing for some cheep unfounded sympathy of poorly informed and naive Westerners by putting forward all those pics and falsified facts will not change the course of history.
azadlix 3 years ago
never happened
limeman123 3 years ago
ARMENIA an TERROR COUNTRY.
Terrorist essence of armenian pseudo-patriots also displayed IN OCTOBER OF 1999, WHEN A GROUP OF TERRORISTS (FROM "DASHNAKTSUTYUN") CAPTURED ARMENIAN PARLIAMENT, KILLED THE PRIME MINISTER, THE SPEAKER, AND A NUMBER OF PARLIAMENT MEMBERS. inflamed by imaginary "ideology" and led by armenian church, armenian chauvinists became certain in their infallibility and started uncovered aggression against Azerbaijan.
Ehtinet 3 years ago
PLEASE LETS ALL STOP THIS HATRED PEOPLE. STOP IT< BEFORE IT STOPS US ALL. i hope one day everyone forgets and forgives the past, and so we all can live happily together. If we can't stop this hate, we cant go any forward in this life...
mimarlin 3 years ago
lol pwned
CERNOBE 3 years ago
genocide . Course of God.
Kipchakbeg 3 years ago
Turkey opened state archives and offered historians from both country and other countries historians that both countries would agree to find the truth. Guess what? Armenians refused."
Can anybody answer why Armenia is refusing an objective historical resarch , but prefers gossip and chats.
behcetn999 3 years ago
metobank 3 years ago
happy anniversary Armenian genocide day
themustyone 3 years ago
THOSE FOREIGNERS WHO have little or NO INFO on this topic, please WATCH "armenian so called genocide episodes" here on you tube. Turkey was victim as much as armenians IF NOT MORE. This document INCLUDES HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS not only by Turkey but by foreign nations and ARMENIANS saying it isn't so.
When Turkish president ask Armenian President that we should BOTH bring our HISTORICAL PAPERS, submit it to historians to get to bottom of this, ARMENIANS DECLINED, why?
Reyhanalhassan 3 years ago
JUST THANKS
AMEPRODUCTION 3 years ago
April 24Th, is fast approaching my Armenian people, let us all remember of what tragic has happened when that day comes!
ClanDave 3 years ago
İS İT THE RESOLUTİON OF THE FRENCH SENATE.?
İS İT THE RESOLUTİON OF THE AMERİCAN SENATE.?
WHO İS TO GİVE PRESCRİPTİON.?
WHO İS OUR DOCTOR.?
ARMENİANS ARE DOCTORS OF THE TURKS.
TURKS ARE DOCTORS OF THE ARMENİANS.
from. İstanbul....
semutra13 3 years ago
I LOVE THIS IT IS SO CUTE!
BaronGillesdeRais 3 years ago
"Armenians are ungrateful and professional beggars" Colonel Haskell
awacs976 3 years ago
Despite a very assertive and aggressive campaign to get the version conveyed by the armenian diaspora, claiming the events leading to the deaths of a disputed number of armenians in Anatolia, to be declared as a genocide.Have yet only 22 countries, within a 95 year time span, expressed their support in subscribing to this adaptation.
It seems the majority is not easily persuaded by the case presented by this very active pressure group, nor should they as the evidence is hardly conclusive.
nigzesx 3 years ago
Turkish Government wants a uncomitted history investigate Comission but Armenia not why?
ARMENIANS = LIARS
36Motherfucker 4 years ago
Turkish Government wants a uncomitted history investigate Comission but Armenia dont want any investigate because there angry thats there great Genocide lie are developed!
ARMENIANS LIARS, YOU CANT BUY US GOVERNMENT!
36Motherfucker 4 years ago
whoever wants to see from war, search kurtulus savasi and watch the first video real war time,see Turkish soldier(old women) that Armenian complain about genocide,See Turkish soldier...See how did we protect the country.See if it was a war or genocide.Armenian and Greek killed Turks.Armenian betrayed Ottoman and joined the enemy to get dirt cos they thought Ottoman gonna lose the war.Armenian be a man and say Armenian lost the war,Don't be a liar.
GURBETCIAYLOS 4 years ago
whoever wants to see from war, search kurtulus savasi and watch the first video real war time,see Turkish soldier(old women) that Armenian complain about genocide,See Turkish soldier...See how did we protect the country.See if it was a war or genocide.Armenian and Greek killed Turks.Armenian betrayed Ottoman and joined the enemy to get dirt cos they thought Ottoman gonna lose the war.Armenian be a man and say Armenian lost the war,Don't be a liar.
GURBETCIAYLOS 4 years ago
poor armenian propaganda!you can´t rewrite historical truths with money and lies.proofs are basics for history which you don´t have.You slaughtered us turks in anatolia,killed azerbaycan turks in hocali,occupied karabag and asala has assassinated over 70 turkish ambassadors all over the world.and we CAN proof all these things!come and look at the turkish massgraves in anatolia.armenians have committed genocide against TURKS.FACING THE TRUTH IS SO HARD FOR YOU
Turkuaz0906 4 years ago
wut is this song
TheVODCA 4 years ago
From "A Shameful Act", dedication page.
"I would like to dedicate this book to the memory of Haji Halil, a devout Muslim Turk, who saved the members of an Armenian family from deportation and death by keeping them safely hidden for over half a year, risking his own life."
Now, if there was no Armenian Genocide, why would this Turkish man take such a rare action? Think about it denialists!
luv4knowledge 4 years ago
"One provincial governor wrote to Sultan Abdul Hamit: "50,000 Armenians fled across the border, 30,000 are still hiding in the woods, 45,000 have converted to Islam and 10,000 probably died. Thanks to Your Majesty's wise measures the Muslims are now everywhere in the majority." The Sultan declared in 1897 that 'the Armenian question' was now 'closed'. Unfortunately, it wasn't.
--p.400, "Blood and Soil"
luv4knowledge 4 years ago
The Genocide & Turkish complex of 'inferiority'
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The Genocide problem is maintained due to Turks' complex of inferiority, according to him.
"If there is no repentance and comprehension of what really took place, such issues will be always a subject for speculation. With a burden like the Armenian Genocide, it will be extremely hard for Turkey to join the European Union," Malashenko underscored.
Fthvs 4 years ago
The Genocide & Turkish complex of 'inferiority'
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The states, which were sinners in history, should repent. There are plenty of countries throughout the globe arguing about necessity to recognize some historical facts. Turkey will have to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide sooner or later," expert of Moscow Carnegie Center Alexander Malashenko said during Yerevan-Moscow space bridge.
Fthvs 4 years ago
Inland News :
James Sheehan, a professor of history at Stanford University said extensive documentation supports defining the atrocities as genocide;
Sheehan said evidence that Turks tried to obliterate their Armenian population is visible throughout eastern Turkey, which had been home to Armenians for 2,500 years.
"I've spent some time in eastern Turkey, and it's quite remarkable that there's virtually no trace of the Armenian population that lived there for centuries"
DMGIT 4 years ago
The genocide took place when Ottoman Koerds had to deportade the Armenians to Syria in order of the Turks, it was told them only to deportade, not kill. But the koerds abused the women en children.
Atatürk then said: A very shamefull act. What happened has happened, this cannot be changed, but one thing can be changed; the friendship of Turkey and Armenia. If Armenians are going to see me on the street, are they just simply gonna kill me because I'm Turkish?
VizardMaskedSoldier 4 years ago
ıt was war .Countries which you mentioned ,made lots of genocide in africa and asia .Who cares they accepted armenian genocide(totally lie ).Take a look around the world Iraq , kongo, hiroşima let me know who accepts the genoside .I wish turks killed more armenian to shut their mouths .If we did why so many armenian still live in heart of turkey.Arent they your citizens still alive . Dont say lies to yourself . Dont be the puppet of politics .Live with your honors .
shakant 4 years ago
turkey will eventually chasm internally due to different ideals of turks...you can't maintain a cloak democracy, it's the illusion of the century.
luv4knowledge 4 years ago 2
We are as a Kurdish Nation from Kurdistan ERBIL CITY support Armenia To recognize it as a Genocide and International Crime and Bloody Turkey Gov. Should pay bill for it.
God Bless Armenian and Kurdistan
M.K From Erbil- Kurdistan
XWAKURK 4 years ago
We annoy you armenien sal's band(strip)
fatoss68 4 years ago 3
--- JUSTİCE FİLES ---
1982 / Beirut,Lebanon : Leon Dikran (ASALA terrorist) was killed in a ship.His body was thrown into sea at midnight.
1983 / Paris,France : Ara Toranyan (ASALA terrosit) was killed in his house.He was shot into head.
1984 / Athens,Greece : Agop Agopyan (ASALA leader) was killed.His throat was cut in the train.
kingthekg 4 years ago
if you want to learn ethnic cleansing in the world (all of them) read this book: Dark side of the democracy,Michael Mann..
PATTERN35 4 years ago
This is Turkey's case made eloquently by Bernard Lewis, the great historian of the Middle East.
If you still can't understand why Turks are so strongly opposed to the word genocide after watching it then there is no hope for reconciliation with you.
WATCH BERNARD LEWIS:
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mok2000 4 years ago
Armenians were forced to move because Armenian guerillas killed civilians in eastern Anatolia. Even today's democratic states would not tolerate Armenian hinchak terrorist organization. Yet it is a war time situation in which Armenian guerillas are fighting with Russian army against Ottoman army. Armenian citizens of western Anatolia were not forced to move.
bedbinlik 4 years ago
PLEASE READ WELL, THINK WELL
Ottoman Empire lasted more than 600 years and more than 20 different ethnic peoples were living within the empire: Turks, Arabs, Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians, Egyptians, Albanians, Macedonians, Jews, Bosnians, Circassians, Assyrians etc. The list goes on. YOU CAN NOT SIMPLY RULE ALL THESE DIFFERENT ETHNIC PEOPLES MORE THAN 600 YEARS BY SHEER BRUTALITY!!! So, no one should never ever try to give a lesson of civilization and democracy to Turks.
attila6565 4 years ago
The land of devil, where millions of Greeks,Armenians, Georgians, Kurds were killed! Turks live on bones, and they drink blood! Turkey is Hell!!! God will punish them! Stop! Stop killings!
Yes, unfortunately there is a nation of killers on this planet. So if you help turks to continue killing and denying, so remember, that God will punish you.
Narekh 4 years ago
House committee approves Armenian genocide resolution
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The House Foreign Affairs Committee Wednesday evening narrowly approved a resolution labeling as "genocide" the mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turkish forces during and after World War I, despite a full-court press against it by President Bush and top administration officials.
The vote was 27-21. (Posted 5:18 p.m.)
anaASALA 4 years ago
Herbert Hoover
The Memoirs of Herbert Hoover, 1952
The association of Mount Ararat and Noah, the staunch Christians who were massacred periodically by the Mohammedan Turks, and the Sunday School collections over fifty years for alleviating their miseries—all cumulate to impress the name Armenia on the front of the American mind.
DMGIT 4 years ago
There are Turks who don't admit that their ancestors committed genocide. If you look at it though, they seem to be nice people... So why don't they admit it? Because they think that genocide is a bad thing which they would never want to commit, and because they can't believe their ancestors would do such a thing either.
-Hrant Dink
narek781 4 years ago
watch?v=XpK7y0S1kps Please watch this video...
slavyer47 4 years ago
Armenian Genocide
/watch?v=dabX7-LgSac
asiryan 4 years ago
TURKISH GENOCIDE OF ARMENIAN POPULATION(1914-1922)
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Part-2
West Anatolia: (Before)371,800-(After)27,000
Cilicia-Nth Syria:(Before)309,000-(After)70,000
Eropean Turkey:(Before)194,000-(After)163,000
Trebizond:(Before)73,390-(After)15,000
Total: (Before)2,133,190-(After)387,800 = 1,745,390
Kiamet1 4 years ago
my grand parents lived through it and its not a lie
** my grands comment about the genocide is " u can believe in a rock as ur god if u want, but dont throw it at me"
LeenaY88 4 years ago
Gerald Ford
Addressing the US House of Representatives.
Mr. Speaker, with mixed emotions we mark the 50th anniversary of the Turkish genocide of the Armenian people. In taking notice of the shocking events in 1915, we observe this anniversary with sorrow in recalling the massacres of Armenians and with pride in saluting those brave patriots who survived to fight on the side of freedom during World War I. - Congressional Record, pg. 8890
DMGIT 4 years ago 4
Report of Wangenheim, German ambassador in the Ottoman Empire on June 17, 1915 -
" Deportation of the Armenians from their homes in the vilayets of Eastern Anatolia, and their resettlement in other regions is implemented cruelly it becomes obvious that deportation of the Armenians arises not only from military necessity." Talaat said: "The Sublime Porte intends to make use of the world war for cleaning the whole country from local Christians".
DMGIT 4 years ago 4
Voltaire characterised the Turks as:
"tyrants of the women and enemies of arts".
He also spoke of the need:
"to chase away from Europe these barbaric usurpers"
DMGIT 4 years ago 4
Till today, Poland, Argentina, Belgium, Canada, France, Greece, Italy, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, the Vatican, the European Parliament, Lebanon, Cyprus, Uruguay, the Council of Europe, 39 states from the United States of America have all reaffirmed THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE. Their common message is to address:
1 - Injustices against Armenians by Turks.
2 - Crimes against humanity will not be tolerated.
3 - To prevent future Genocides to happen.
Kiamet1 4 years ago 2
to learn about armenian genocide visit
w w w . ermenisorunu. gen. tr
oavunduk 4 years ago
yeah ,that's right,,what a big BS of the TC Governement,,
You guys may believe to the rewriten history introduced to you new young Turkish generation but as long as we older or Midaged Turks are still around ,we won't . Our fathers and grandfathers told us all about how they killed ,raped,then stole the innocent Ottoman Armenians.
akillioglu 4 years ago
Adolf Hitler
While persuading his associates that a Jewish holocaust would be tolerated by the west stated...
Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?
"Our strength lies in our intensive attacks and our barbarity...After all, who today remembers the genocide of the Armenians?"
DMGIT 4 years ago
They forced groups of Armenians into caves and then set brush fires at the entrances to deplete all the oxygen and asphyxiate the victims.
The Turks save a special fate for the children. The lucky ones were just burned alive or taken out in boats which were capsized in the middle of the sea. That was much quicker than the fate that befell the pretty ones. The prettiest girls and boys from the age of about 10 upwards were reprieved long enough to be raped and tortured.
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago 2
David's Mental Meanderings
The Armenian leaders and intellectuals were rounded up first. After these were killed, the slaughter of the general population began. In seven provinces of Anatolia, 90% of the able-bodied men were killed outright. Most of the rest of the population was deported out into the desert to starve in primitive versions of concentration camps. The Turks even beat the Germans to the idea of gas chambers, even if they lacked the technology.
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
Yossi Beilin
Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister. April 27, 1994 on the floor of the Knesset in response to a TV interview of the Turkish Ambassador
It was not war. It was most certainly massacre and genocide, something the world must remember... We will always reject any attempt to erase its record, even for some political advantage.
DMGIT 4 years ago
Why the Americans who claim to be Christians, are the staunchest ally of the Turks who committed GENOCIDE on the FIRST CHRISTIAN NATION OF THE WORLD, the Armenians? Why are Jews suppressing knowledge of the Armenian genocide in order to curry favor with the Turks who just elected an Islamist government? What does Christ tell George Bush when He speaks to the president? that screwing the first Christian nation of the world is in our national interest perhaps, as the State Department claims it is?
insidebetween 4 years ago
Shakespeare's famous play Othello, Othello says the following before stabbing himself
Set you down this;
And say besides, that in Aleppo once,
Where a malignant and a turban'd Turk
Beat a Venetian and traduc'd the state,
I took by the throat the circumcised dog,
And smote him thus.
DMGIT 4 years ago
Theodore Roosevelt
May 11, 1918, letter to Cleveland Hoadley Dodge
...the Armenian massacre was the greatest crime of the war, and the failure to act against Turkey is to condone it ... the failure to deal radically with the Turkish horror means that all talk of guaranteeing the future peace of the world is mischievous nonsense.
DMGIT 4 years ago
Yossi Beilin
Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister. April 27, 1994 on the floor of the Knesset in response to a TV interview of the Turkish Ambassador
It was not war. It was most certainly massacre and genocide, something the world must remember... We will always reject any attempt to erase its record, even for some political advantage.
DMGIT 4 years ago
Mustafa Arif
Minister of Interior stated on 13 December 1918...
Unfortunately, our wartime leaders, imbued with a spirit of brigandage, carried out the law of deportation in a manner that could surpass the proclivities of the most bloodthirsty bandits. They decided to exterminate the Armenians, and they did exterminate them.
DMGIT 4 years ago
David Lloyd George former British Prime Minister said in 1914 that:
The Turks are a human cancer, a creeping agony in the flesh of the lands which they misgovern, rotting every fibre of life ... I am glad that the Turk is to be called to a final account for his long record of infamy against humanity
DMGIT 4 years ago
Nobel winning turkish novelist Orhan Pamuk - " Millions of Armenians were killed on this land and nobody besides me dares to speak about it".
DMGIT 4 years ago
thank you for the comment
albinosp4cemonky 4 years ago
it is very sad to see how agressive turks are when it comes to admit what they did in past. Armenian Genocide recognition is based purely on facts and truth - not Armenian or Turkish lobbying - that's why
so many countries had already recognized it. Let's hope turks one day will follow their educated countrymen Orhan Pamuk and learn the truth about turkish past especially Young Turks commiting the first Genocide of modern days...
DMGIT 4 years ago
total exteremintion my ass if thats what we wanted thats what we couldhave done to the orospu cocugu for the past 750 lies lies and more lies the truth will set you free
brothervsbrother 4 years ago
you know including people that actually did suffer something by other with your own lie doesnt make your lie closer to the truth. stop begging for sympathy you liars
brothervsbrother 4 years ago
The Armenians were not the only Christians in Anatolia Turkey targeted during the same period. 1.5 million Armenians were victims of Genocide, 275,000 Assyro-Chaldeans, and 360,000 Greeks also fell victim to Genocide. There is no excuse or false propaganda stories that can account for this. It was GENOCIDE against their Christian population, in order to create a pan-Turkic state.
hkals 4 years ago
Starting to fight against Turks under alliance with the Western powers despite all the good intentions of Turks, the Armenians initiated a campaign to present themselves as a subjugated society and to accuse the Ottoman Empire of "having annihilated" their sovereignty rights in Anatolia. Armenian genocide is full of lie..
ybayezid 4 years ago
This is untruth. you are poor natıon and you will drag forever. because you are villain against to Ottoman Empıre.
korsanlaz 4 years ago
In preparation for revolt,Armenian revolutionaries had stored vast stockpiles of weapons,largely provided or paid by the Russian government.These were kept primarily in Armenian villages and were obviously well-hidden from Ottoman authorities,an indication of the lack of Ottoman control in the region before the war.
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
Not coincidentally,the Armenian revolt in eastern Anatolia began as soon as the Russians realized that the Ottoman Empire would go to war.Before Russia declared war on 2 November 1914,Armenian guerrillas had already begun to organize into guerrilla bands.
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
The Armenian Genocide was a crime against humanity.
IranAryana 4 years ago
IranAryana - Armenian Genocide is a crime against humanity only for CIVILIZED world! Most of Civilized World recognized it - I guess turkey is not there yet... they still have a long way to go.. Let's hope they will open their eyes one day.
DMGIT 4 years ago
5 mln indians killed when Spain occupied North America, 30 mln russians (soviet) people killed in the II world War, by armenian logic, now Russia should raise a problem "russian/soviet genocide" ?? See, Russia and Germany now are partners, and I 'd say very close partners. So guys, leave history on the past, stop agitation against Azerbaijan and Turkey, lets forget the history, think our children.
Azerisafety 4 years ago
More than 80000 Armenians works in Turkey-you are poor very poor also Historical
mlechinoxcu 4 years ago
They just want to be like jewish people, it means they want Turkey pay them money every month, and they also want to enter every country they want without visa like jewish. ARMENIANS DON'T CARE ABOUT FUCKING GENOCIDE, THEY ARE JJUST LOOKING FOR BETTER LIFE...How poor you are mother fuckers :)
farikus 4 years ago
These things happened! But they will happen again if we pretend we look on to the future and forget the past. Nooone must allow the killers of civilisations make ironies over this issue. Even though they have not yet been punished by human justice, there is a Divine Justice to which they will sooner or later be answerable.
bhhfnxd 4 years ago
DONT DENIE THE GENOCIDE FUCKING turks!
Zambidis is there for you!
THe turkEATER!
gamisouwe 4 years ago
To see a full story of the Armenian Genocide just google Jewish Genocide of Armenian Christians
sundried25 4 years ago
Many of the Armenians who were killed between 1915-1923 died because the Armenians waged war against practically every nation they were physically able to come in contact with,including not only the Turks but also,after 1918,the Russians,Georgians,and Azerbaijanis.
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
Isn't the murder of Turks who were not even born in 1915 ignorantly illogical?On July 31,1980,Galip Ozmen,the Turkish attaché in Athens,Greece,was assassinated along with his daughter,Neslihan.Why haven't Armenians denounced ASALA terrorists yet?Haven't they heard of a legal principle in which criminal guilt is generally regarded strictly personal not inherited from father to son?
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
What did Dr.Robert John say?He is a historian of Armenian descent who had researched the authenticity of the alleged Hitler quote!Read the article "Historian of Armenian Descent Says Frequently Used Hitler Quote Is Nothing But a Forgery,"on The Armenian Reporter,August 2,1984, p.1
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
ANCA welcomes Chilean Senate's recognition of Armenian Genocide
Garegin15 4 years ago
"At the All-Armenian National Congress held in Tiflis in February 1913,it was revealed that the Russian government had given the Dashnaks over two hundred thousand roubles to arm the Turkish Armenians and provoke their uprising at an opportune moment"(Firuz Kazemzadeh,The Struggle for Transcaucasia,New York, 1951,p.26).Kazemzadeh states that the Russians repented their actions later,when they realized the Dashnaks had different plans for eastern Anatolia than did the Russians(pp.26 and 27).
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
"During the first year of the war,the Ottomans were occupied with Armenian revolts all over eastern Anatolia.Only the revolt in Van was successful,but the other revolts caused great loss of life and significantly harmed the Ottoman war effort.The Armenians of Zeytun,always restive under Ottoman control,rebelled in August of 1914,before the war began,primarily as a protest against conscription."
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
"Armenian revolutionaries seized the city of Van from the Ottoman government on 13 and 14 April 1915 and held it against besieging Ottoman troops who had been quickly brought up from Bitlis and the Russian front. The Russians took advantage of the revolt.Against the lightly held Ottoman frontier,they sent a force made up of Armenian volunteer units(approximately 4,000 Armenians,mainly from the Caucasus),Armenian guerrilla units(from the Caucasus and Anatolia),and a brigade of Cossacks."
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
"The war in the east began on 2 November 1914,when Russian forces moved south to occupy the border regions of Bayazit,Diyadin,and Karakilise."(Caucasian Wars,W.E.D.Allen and Paul Muratoff,Caucasian Battlefields,Cambridge,1953)
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
That's why we again became part of Russian Empire, this time called Soviet Union...Looking at how u Turks portray us I sometimes think u r talking abt mega Empira with independabt state, powerful militaru, millions of people...even now, 92 years later we r far away from that lol...
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
And come on Eso...we have known each other for ages now lol u r not really saying when in 1920 independant , only 2 years old Armenia was attacked both by Turkey and Russia we could really oppose any of u ...u do realise we r talking abt handful Armos and endless Turks and Russians...plus we were recovering after the genocide and during 2 years we hardly could have any proper defence...military
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
No, and they don't even make sense,Eso..Armenians didn't have independant state in 1915, no govt, no military, nothing...just opressed under Ottoma rule...
Western Armenia was part of Ottoman Empire, Eastern Armenia( nowdays Armenia) was part of Russian Empire...
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
If he is right why he always was hiding behind "Holdwater" and now has stopped his activity? Why doesn't come out and defend his " point of view"?
Taner Akcam is a reknown human right activist, Historian teaching in US but Holdwater called him a terrorist, accused him in organising killings of American people...Now he is scared to be sued for his blatant lies
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
Turks have the moon on their flag? Why? During Mohammeds time Allah was the name of the Moon god that people worshipped. So he was referring to the Moon god, not the same God as the Jews and Christians. Turks are a satanic people that only like to destory !
Golden750 4 years ago
Incorrect. The moon and star was a common Byzantine (East-Roman) symbol. After Mehmeds conquest of Constantinople the symbol became more widely used by Moslems and today it signifies Islam.
hazzlehoff 4 years ago
You are wrong.Hazzlehoff ! The Moond god was a ancient worship of the Sumarians and than Arabs started the worship. During Muhammed time it was called Allah and it had 3 daughters (Alat,Uzza and Manat)This worship started in MECCA and they prayed towards the Idol! Than stories from the Torah and Bible were added. Koran had this verse erased Sura 58: 19-20 where Muhammed says the name of daughters of Allah to be praised. Pagan !
Golden750 4 years ago
Esot...all ur misquotes are from notorious tallararmeniatales websites...Do u know that he removed his webpage because one of his slander victims Turkish Taner Akcam has found his true identity?
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
What I wrote are historical facts which have references in archives of Britain,France,Turkey,and theUSA.Also,check out Death and Exile:The Ethnic Cleansing of Ottoman Turks,1821-1922(Justin McCarthy-Darwin Press-1995) and Pursuing the Just Cause of Their People:A Study of Contemporary Armenian Terrorism.(Michael M. Gunter-GREENWOOD PRESS-1986)
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
many Islamists from different Muslim countries were fighting against Armenians in Arckah calling it Jihad:Chechens,Afghans,Lezgins,Abkhazs...Osama Bin Laden sent his Mujaheeds to kill Armenians...
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
People of Arcakh (80%Armenians) voted legally by referendum for independance just like Azerbaijan did to separate from USSR.Russians let Azeris go however Azeris started Armenian massacres in Azerbaian.Then they attacked Arcakh bombing town full of civilians..
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
Bristol blamed the French for the Armenians' troubles in Maras,because of their methods of occupation."Several thousand Turks" and 10,000 Armenians had been killed,including women and children on both sides.He stated that the Turks did massacre some Armenians,but that all was quiet once the French had evacuated.He also averred that Turkish Nationalists did not want to exterminate non-Muslims(U.S. 867.00/1179,Bristol to Secretary of State,Constantinople,23 March 1920).
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
Arcakh/Karabah has always been an ancient Armenian land wehich only recently ( in 1921) Stalin gave to Azerbaijan..which never became a prtof Azerbaijan but autonomic region and only under RUssian control.Azeris never had control over Arcakh/Karabakh, only Russians had...
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
can someone please tell me the name of the guy who is talking?...i think hes african/austrailian/american...if you know his name please post it up
axxchiiidues 4 years ago
A postwar British source stated that Armenians "massacred between three and four hundred thousand Kurdish people in the Van and Bitlis Districts,"mostly the work of Armenians in the Russian Army"(Interview of Col.Wooley of the British Army,12 September 1919,in U.S.184.021/265).
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
On June 5 the Chilean Senate unanimously adopted a resolution, which condemns the Armenian Genocide of 1915 perpetrated by the Ottoman Empire and called governments of all countries in the world to join the 1985 document by the UN Sub-Commission on Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities.
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
Now we know the face of "Holdwater" Murad Gumen - one of the most anti-Armenian Turkish-Americans on Earth and the webmaster of tallarmeniantale.con, a hate website that denies the Armenian Genocide and compares Armenians to rodents. He was representing himself as an American and that is where all Turks take their misquotes...
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
Never again!
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
Included in her study were references to Armenian terrorist attacks undertaken to incite reprisals that it was hoped would lead to foreign intervention,plans to strike at the Ottoman state when it was at war and to seek help from foreign governments at such favorable opportunities,Armenian publications that EXAGGERATED Turkish atrocities,and more.
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
Louise Nalbandian who,although a confirmed Armenian patriot,was able to describe in a matter-of-fact way the secret Armenian revolutionary activities against the Ottoman state from 1860 on.
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
Professor Toynbee later did write that the Blue Book had been "duly published and distributed as war propaganda!"(Arnold J.Toynbee,The Western Question in Greece and Turkey:A Study in the Contact of Civilizations-Boston and New York:Houghton Mifflin, 1922),p.50)[I HAVE AN ADVICE TO ALL IMPERIALIST LIARS!IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE CONFESSIONS;MEDITATE ON YOUR OWN ATROCITIES!]
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
Thank you for the comments. Very nice username also.
albinosp4cemonky 4 years ago
All in all,Nalbandian's analysis makes it clear the Armenians were not solely innocent victims of murderous Turks.(Please Read:Louise Nalbandian,The Armenian Revolutionary Movement:The Development of Armenian Political Parties Through the Nineteenth Century)
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
I will check it out for sure
albinosp4cemonky 4 years ago
More than a half century after he had edited the Blue Book with Bryce;Toynbee,in his final statement on the subject,declared:"These...Armenian political aspirations had not been legitimate....Their aspirations did not merely threaten to break up the Turkish Empire;they could not be fulfilled without doing GRAVE INJUSTICE to the Turkish people itself.(Arnold J.Toynbee,Acquaintances(London:Oxford University Press,1967,p.241)
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
Funny, all Historians accept but Turks whose exactly documents are called fak by UNESCO are accuding others...oh well...
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
But the book is CONSIDERED A FORGERY not only by Turkish historians but by practically EVERY WESTERN student of Ottoman history.(The First Genocide of the 20th Century?;Author:Guenter Lewy)
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
Thank you for the comments.
albinosp4cemonky 4 years ago
In the face of this lack,Armenians have relied upon materials of questionable authenticity like The Memoirs of Naim Bey by Aram Andonian.The English edition of this book,first published in 1920,offers in evidence 30 ALLEGED TELEGRAMS by Talat Pasha,Turkey's minister of the interior,some of which order the killing of all Armenians irrespective of sex or age.
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
One of the problems bedeviling the Armenian side in this controversy is that NO AUTHENTIC documentary evidence exists to prove the culpability of the central government of Turkey for the massacre of 1915-16.
TheEsotericEclectic 4 years ago
WE ARMENIANS, the new generation, WILL SEE TO THE RECOGNITION, I SWEAR TO U ALL :)
-including myself, even if it costs me my death
amorichka 4 years ago
SUCK MY CHECHEN DICK BITCH, YOUR WOMEN ARE GIVING THEIR PUSIES IN TURKEY, and you know it very good) fuck your children and fuck you religion )
farikus 4 years ago
"the reason why the u.s is not recognizing the ARMENIAN GENCOIDE is because it doesnt want to hurt its ties with turkey". i mean after all, every nation needs another nation to wipe its ass with. apparently, the u.s has chosen turkey :)
have fun being ass wiped!
-I PROMISE U, THE ARMENIAN GENCOIDE WILL BE RECOGNIZED W/ OR W/OUT THE U.S -
amorichka 4 years ago
i wait when you cry, youre voice is like you are crying,
ecevits1974 4 years ago
He is neither Armenian nor Turkish...and supports freedom of speech..what is there to consider stupid?
Although I myself don't support ur Turkish lies passed as freedom of speech...
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
Turks are using specally designed by their govt website for denying Armenian genocide. Bulgarians are demanding recognition of their genocide committed by Turks...so do Assyrians,Greeks,Lebanese Christians...
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
Istanbul is a Greek city Constantinople occupied by Turks in 1456...and yes, I feel for Greeks for their pain...Constantinople has much more history than Istanbul will ever have...Great Constantinople is always talked about!
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
Among Muslims arrested a couple of weeks ago in US plotting against US soldiers in Philadelfia was a Turk terrorist..last month Turks tortured for hours 3 Christians in Turkey..Malatya...actually athentic Armenian town...
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
From press:
The short time Chechen Basayev spent in the region ( Karabakh) was crucial in his "career",
because, according to some reports, it was there that he met Amir Ibn
Khattab, sent to the region by Osama Bin Laden to participate in the civil
war in Tajikistan and assist the Azeries in the war against the Armenians.
It is with Khattab that Basayev later traveled to Afghanistan.
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago