Ms Pacman - Score rolls over to Zero, 1,000,000pts!

[rlui123]

you cracked the patterns and memorized them, big deal

[hectormosquerafarzan]

mi nombre es hector mosquera primero que todo quiero felisitarlo por ese gra recor quiero saber cuanto tiempo te demoraste si la maquina tiene fin si hay una jugada para que la maquina vote buena fruta quiro saber de que pais eres le cuento que en mi pais la maquina salio demercado hase unos 15 o 17 años por eso quiero saber si hay alguna posibilida de conseguirla en alguna parte te comento que lo mas posibre que tu habres ingles yo de ingles no entiendo nada por fabor respuesta en español

[Sijs8]

no-life

[MrRata1988]

999,970 days? Imagine if someone lived for that long. Scary!

[lucas66568]

in mr driller if i do over 10000m the meter counter stops at 9999 instead of rolling back to 0 like: 0000

[sequoia4102]

ive been to this level 0nce and i got 167070 points

[AbdulQadir1243]

the ghost is not intelligent its just following you where it goes

[llproductions2006]

So did you luck-manipulate the game to get high-scoring fruits, use a cheat to start at 900,000-some, or did you just get really lucky with the fruits in the game?

[moonpie3445]

Absuelutley Great!

[kikook222]

Is it true that the AI doesn't follow you but does a set pattern?

[petisojavier]

0:14 luky

[flitzepeng]

@petisojavier It was not being lucky, it was knowing the enemy AI.

[lamborghiniman12]

just wondering how do you get to lvl 100 some and get 1 mill points and only use 1 life?

[sasukedemon888888888]

meeeeep meeep!

[mcpotatoporking95]

i can never get past lv 9 in any pacman game i feel like a feaking noob everytime i watch some videos like this

[lamborghiniman12]

@mcpotatoporking95 dude i get to lvl 5 dont feel bad

[lucas66568]

@mcpotatoporking95 yes but you aren't a noob VelvetRolo is just a champion.

i've reached level 16 with turbo

[rocket71792]

was this u if it is damn my highscore is 1,300

[rocket71792]

was this u if it is damn my highscore is 1,342

[mezgageza1948]

You didn't get bonus-life at 10 000 :DDDDD

[kolatian]

Doesn't count if you made it with saving positions:/

[VelvetRolo]

@kolatian: Depends what you mean by "count". This was just to show that the score rolls to 0 after 1,000,000. NOBODY has rolled the score on Ms. Pacman naturally! NEVER. 984K unofficial highest score.

[petereish]

@kolatian Oh rly?

[petereish]

@kolatian i cant beat lvl.1

[Jauwp]

shit just got real

[anrere]

i wish gas pump would do that

[Puppylover96]

1:36- are you friggin serious?? How did you survive that?

[neo15951]

@Puppylover96

More turns slowers the ghosts.... going straight they can catch up

[lucas66568]

@Puppylover96 he was lucky

[dhay03]

That mother fucker did not just get out that jam at 1:32 LOL.

[SuperKidLegend]

Why does the score roll over?

[idleworms]

nice use of the grouping on the lower left!

[SOUTHSIDESLIDERZZ]

KOOOOOL MANNNN

[crayonization]

my mom could pwn you



[VelvetRolo]

@crayonization: Send her to my house... We could surely have a GREAT time. Hahahaha.

[nelsoncnnn]

@VelvetRolo You mean to fuck crayon's mom XD ROFLZ!

[petereish]

@VelvetRolo lol

[PyramidHeadCult]

@crayonization And I can PWN your mom

[HaleyD11]

How do you pwn so Epicly??????

[karenlynnecarey]

wow this guy is pro

[juantheguy]

holy shit ur good

[CyberKiDxBRnM]

at 0:28 i thought the blue ghost was gone!

[n0director]

@CyberKiDxBRnM The blue ghost is behind the red ghost, you can see a litle section of the blue ghost poping of the red one

[StEaLtHBl4d3]

Ok Ok...Awesome vids.I'm lookin' forward for another clip.

[pivotfight3r]

OK ty

[pivotfight3r]

What do you mean by energizer reverse the ghost in your info.?

[VelvetRolo]

When Ms. Pac eats an energizer (power pill, flashing dot), all the ghosts reverse their directions. LOL. What else can I say? Eg, :52

[pivotfight3r]

I get it!.....btw how did u play on cumputer you should give me the link

[VelvetRolo]

It's on MAME (Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator).... Google Mame.

[BigHits4Twenty]

@VelvetRolo Hey how do i download Pac Man? I went to that website you said, but i can't find the how to download Pac Man.

[VelvetRolo]

watch?v=sfsE5NQ4yys

[jansuch]

That little stutter move at 4:22 which you needed to time properly to avoid Sue a few secs later is just so strong ... :)

[VelvetRolo]

Hehe, tx. That's even harder to do than you might realize because you have to flick back at a point when you won't scare Pinky or Inky off the wrong way.

[TheGreatCorneliuski]

You really know how those ghost move around.

[lafemania]

Looking for an MS Pacman in Buenos Aires, if I find one I will teach the art and secrets of a perfect game more beautiful

Signing the best player video game of all time

[VelvetRolo]

Why not just post a video and show the world your "perfect game"?

[lafemania]

Estoy buscando un MS Pacman por Buenos aires, si encuentro uno voy a enseñarle el arte y los secretos mas lindo del juego perfecto

Firma el mejor jugador de video juego de todos los tiempos

[Aurian71]

OMFG. YOU PWN ASS.

[yi238]

read the desc, he cheated =p

[Axtitios]

what the?

why arent the ghost turning blue?

[edsucksfredrocks]

Each stage, the ghosts' "blue time" gets shorter. When one gets far enough into the game, the "blue time" is so short, the ghosts only change directions.

[yi238]

the Desc, dude. level 17-19+ they only repel the ghpsts

[kingdomkeykc]

them ghost dumb ass shit lol

[Revere236]

Pac man counter stops at 999 999 and you need more than 40 mazes to score 999 999with 40 mazes you score like 450 000 max you need at least like 70 or 80 mazes

[VelvetRolo]

Yep, you mis-read something. This was about level 120.

[Andybaby]

This is beyond belief.

I don't understand the pausing, and all three run past you!?

And a few times you ran straight FORT the brown one, as if you KNEW it was going to turn away... how?!?!

[VelvetRolo]

Hehe. Yeah, I always know what the ghosts will do. Mainly from playing with it and learning it by trial and error. If you want exact theory, Jamey Pittman recently created this document which explains it all in great detail, from reverse engineering the code, but I just know it intuitively.

home.comcast. net/~jpittman2/pacman/pacmando­ssier. html

(Remove the spaces after the periods)

All ghosts have the same simple rules they follow, with different targets each.

[VelvetRolo]

And also remove the space in between dossier. Not sure why it's even there, because it wasn't when I typed it.

[Andybaby]

brilliant, thanks! How much of this applies to MsPacman?

[VelvetRolo]

All of it. The movement of the ghosts is identical. (Except, that in Ms. Pacman, there is none of that idiotic periodic homing of the ghosts to their corners)

[BrawlATs]

Pacman has exploitable AI, that is all. Kinda vague, but the ai is mostly like

Red = Go to where pacman is

Pink = Go to a few spaces ahead of where pacman is facing

Blue = Don't know

Brown = Go towards pacman, when close, go to left corner of level until far enough away to start following pacman again.

Dunno if it is different for ms pacman.

[VelvetRolo]

Yeah, check that link I posted BrawIATs. Explains their logic exactly. Blue I never did figure out on my own, so that was very enlightening to read what it's doing.

[VelvetRolo]

Oh, Yeah, and the ghost logic is the same in Pacman, Ms. Pacman and Jr. Pacman, and pretty much all games based on it. Slight differences with Orange, which is why its name changes from game to game.

[Andybaby]

Ive been trying and trying to use this knowledge, but things move so fast, its hard to apply. I rarely get to the fourth maze. Do you have any tips on how to develop skill?

[lucas66568]

@Andybaby mine i rarely get to the 18th maze with turbo

[gameandwatchlover08]

blue:scared of ms. pacman

[mrpapafunky7879]

i wonder the exact same thing this 2 me seems humanly imposible its perfect

[FunkyBike1]

NINE THOUSAAAAANDD!

[GaRaPaTojr]

IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!!!!!!lol freak score

[nalgade5]

how come the pink one dosent trap you when ou stop??

[VelvetRolo]

She's just trying to get to her target, which in Pinky's case is 4 dots in front of Ms. Pac.

[simonnbaker]

The ghost all run on different gaming "wires".

Ie the red ghost try's to get infront of pacman while other ghosts might stay around in the area or chase pacman behind.

The ghosts also run at the same speed until a certain amount of points are left.

[donovan3955]

3:32

[NoobsGetOwned4Life]

lol 208 days of solid pac man xDD. thats truely no life. I personally play games a lot but i never saw anyone play for 200 days rofl.

[VelvetRolo]

Maybe you should read the vid description?

Also, Ms. Pacman ends at level 142. Pacman ends at 256 with the unfinishable split screen... However, with pacman, the score rolls to zero 3 times, if you survive to level 256 and get all points.

[dethklok334]

too bad the world record is 6,007,234

[dzvero007]

Good play, congratulations!

[WobDawg509]

there should be an "M" and a decimal

LoL

[therealmetroidmaniac]

I thought it would go to negative 1 million

[glennzone12]

00:52 ?!

[VelvetRolo]

I'm better than Mitchell....

[MotownShaker]

what a depressing noise lol

[dynamicwolf]

Sweet, that was some fancy maneuvers you got there.

[03214560480]

if u did not eaten 2000 in the 1st level n eaten 2 dots then on the top will be 999999,look more gud

[VelvetRolo]

Yeah, yeah. But most people would really wonder, how did some strange score like 999,970 ever happen...If they saw it on an arcade machine.

[ArceusSeeker]

VelvetRolo, you are the master of Ms. Pac-Man! ;)

Have you ever made any videos of you playing Pac-Man?

[VelvetRolo]

Thx. Missed this comment... No. Well, actually 1 "ad-lib" video of the 1st 2 levels. But I'm just not into that game.

[ArceusSeeker]

This happened to me before.

In my friends gba Namco Museum, I kept eating the ghosts (I used a gameshark) on the 5th ghost you should receive 500,000 pts. after a little while, after my pts rolled over to 0, about 167,000 pts later, my points stopped going up. It takes a long time to get more pts. then it goes up 10 points

is the empty maze on the gba version of ms. pacman?

[VelvetRolo]

Don't know. Have only played Mame at the end.

[Pinkpapi]

LOL! pacman...The original tactical espionage action game!

[MADH1GHLAND3R]

lol i just noticed that the ghost have to see you with there eyes to know where you are i never though it was like that

[fireguard14]

omg u've been bored! 0.o

[panostsak]

Why is it that when you eat the big "balls" the ghosts dont turn blue and run away? And why cant you eat them? Is Ms. Pacman different than the original pacman?

[VelvetRolo]

I just started a FAQ in the vid description. :) See my other vids for ghost eating.

[PrimalForce1]

Pacman conspiracy? Theres something you don't see everyday.

[ffsigotnoname]

its because teh time limit of it decreses as u progress so at his lvl it wouldnt effect them

[melissatx75]

I've seen this happen, on the original Arcade...its gets soo high on some levels that when you eat the power pellet the time they change to blue is almost eliminated...it varies from stage to stage.

[lklkhjhjdfs]

Bizarre ce pac man , tu peux jamais rien bouffer et en plus quand on te touche le jeu continue quand meme !

[VelvetRolo]

C'est la version originale d'arcade qui ont une certaine marge de manœuvre et détection de collision. Je ne sais pas ce que la traduction automatique, "vous pouvez manger plus jamais". Peut-être vous dire ne peut manger les fantômes - c'est parce que c'est un niveau élevé sans bleu fantômes - ils ont juste sens inverse après niveau 18.

[darius2pacman]

WOAH.

[Kelvisito]

Nice!

[poosmellbum2]

why dont the big pills do anything...

[jdb2002]

On later levels, the Power pellets are less and less effective, until they do nothing.

[Sectus2345]

its really hard but there is a glitch to play as the ghosts you have to go left for 5 dots up for 10 down for 8 and right for 12 and you get the "Red ghost" achivment

[kakuzumaster]

he cheated

[BRANKIE76]

howd did he cheat mate??? i think these were the old time games were cheats wernt even herd of???

[frak126]

Easy, edit the memory addresses. say Hx908 = 1000. Change 1000 to 999999. Set it to not be static. Eating just one dot will jump the score.

Also

Setting the amount of points gained by eating a dot could do the same thing.

Hx708 = 500. Change it to 10000. Eating a dot will increase your score by 10000.

Of course, those numbers/addresses are hypothetical and don't represent an actual value in the game.

[VelvetRolo]

Q: How to tell when someone has had too much to drink?

A: When they write an absurd message such as this one by frak126.

Q: How to tell when someone is pretending to know something they in fact know nothing about?

A: Same answer as above.

Q: How do you say the same thing 3 times?

A: Same answer as above.

Q: How do you represent hexadecimal numbers?

A: With 0x908. Not Hx908.

Q: Do any of these morons read the vid description?

A: Not bloody likely.

[TwosComplement]

dude you are wrong that guy probably does understand what he says it makes perfect sense to me. hes not drunk or anything.

[VelvetRolo]

I normally don't bother replying to anyone that can't be bothered with punctuation or the extreme chore of pressing the shift key. But, no, I'm not wrong. I've been hacking computers for over 25 years, which if your YouTube page age is correct is longer than you've been alive. To confirm that to you, I'll simply tell you that your YouTube userID representation of -17 is 11101111. If you don't know what I'm saying, then anything further is pointless.

[VelvetRolo]

Saying "Set it to not be static" doesn't make any sense at all. He is using a programming concept (static) in completely the wrong context. He uses wrong notation for hex. He uses ficticious numbers to appear like he knows what he's talking about. He's phony. Yes, of course it's possible to edit the rom to alter the points of the dots or fruit. But, READ MY VIDEO DESCRIPTION. If you do, you'll see the real method used to roll the score. I don't know why you all can't be bothered to read it.

[VelvetRolo]

And yes, that video description has been there since day 1.

[TwosComplement]

Dude, i know hex too. I DID read the description before i posted that comment. I do know binary and thats why my username is TwosComplement. But i doubt you know the exact hex offset of the score.

[VelvetRolo]

If you had read my description, then you would have known that all of frak126's HALF-BAKED theories were completely irrelevant anyway. Before you asked, I was unaware of what RAM locations held the scores in Ms. Pac. I just now looked at a partial disassembly for kicks, and Player 1 is held in 3 bytes $4E80-$4E82. Player 2 from $4E84-$4E86. The high score in $4E88-$4E8A. The MSB is the higher address. These numbers are REAL Z80 RAM locations, not made up like frak126's.

[VelvetRolo]

If you understand hex, then you also should have realized that frak's ficticious hex addresses are suspicious because he never had any letters in the range A-F. That's why it was obvious that he was pretending to know something about which he in fact knows little. If frak126 had said change memory location $2B18 to say 20, THAT would increase the score insanely with every dot eaten. Again, $2B17-$2B18 are real RAM locations holding the dot score value.

[VelvetRolo]

Oh - I didn't notice at first! Thanks for using punctuation and the SHIFT key! ;)

[VelvetRolo]

I looked at the code again because I couldn't understand why they were using 3 bytes to hold the score.. They are using each of those 3 bytes to represent 2 of the digits of the score. Well, each nybble corresponds to 1 base10 digit of the score. That explains why it rolls at 1,000,000. Same deal with the score look up table. In my example with the dot value, changing $2B18 to $20 would make a dot worth 2000(base10). No 2's comp for Ms. Pac. Question is, is there any Ms. Pac for 2's comp? :)

[TwosComplement]

OMG it doesnt really matter whether he is telling the truth or not. If he is, good for him. If he isnt, good for him anyway. I have better things to worry about.

[VelvetRolo]

Sigh. You don't get it... I'll let you go worry about your better things now.

[smoshRUES]

watch the king of kong the sane thing happens in donkey kong its on g4 think about it before u post a lie

[BRANKIE76]

HOLY FCUK UR BRILL MATE, WOW!!!!!

[AfeBahrooshe]

Thanks for the advice and encouragement, VelvetRolo. I am working hard on this mission, lol.

[AfeBahrooshe]

Thanks VelvetRolo - I appreciate it. As it turns out, right after I asked the question I figured it out. How incredibly dunce of me not to think of pressing SHIFT. Lol.

On another note, how does one get so damn good at this game? My highest score ever, playing a regular-speed Ms Pacman, 3 lives - bonus at 10,000 - is only 96,000. I am on a mission to get better, but I highly doubt I'll ever achieve 500,000 or more points or get anywhere close to "the end" - boards 141, etc.

[VelvetRolo]

Yeah, you can do it! If you can learn the ghost's behaviour so that you can control them, group them for eating, and develop a reasonably consistent approach to the slow levels, and have unwavering concentration, you can do it. Check out the new chomping vids I just posted for the hardest chomping levels.

[Jellofreeze]

Congratulations on the high score Velvet! I kinda wish you hadnt eaten that pair though. The Bonus point cheated you out of the 30 extra points to achieve 1,000,000, on the score board.

You'd been better off eating 3 small pellets an getting the 30points that way.

Anyway you did better then I ever could :)

[AfeBahrooshe]

How does one save their game/stats, etc with MAME Ms. Pacman. All I've figured out so far is when you hit F7 it asks to select a location to load from.

[VelvetRolo]

Shift+F7 = save

Or you could let google think for you:

Google: mame save game faq

Other juicy stuff to know there that you might wanna read.

[kikook222]

If you truly did that go call record keeper do it and get the record.

[VelvetRolo]

Read the "About this Video"

[kikook222]

Lol sorry didnt see the Well I cheated.

[shalpp]

why was the pellet sound sounding like it was off of pac-man jr

[VelvetRolo]

Yeah, I always thought that was weird too. With the older version of Mame I was using back then, it would make that sound immediately after loading in a save-state until you ate a fruit.

[VelvetRolo]

Stay tuned. Still working on that without using save states!

[lyoko300]

i have made it told me 1000000 it told me u win then sent me to mian screen

[VelvetRolo]

What version was that? This is the original arcade version, which obviously doesn't do that.

[kdman16]

So, if I understand the guys who made ''the perfect score'''with pacman(3,333,360)didn't have it on the screen but they did 999990 plus 999990 etc.?

[VelvetRolo]

Yeah, exactly.

[kdman16]

Im sorry, me again, I don't understand I played 1.000.000 with pacman yesterday (on mame) and the same thing happened. is it only on mame like this or what?

[VelvetRolo]

What? Roll over? Dunno. Never played pacman on Mame. Yeah, it rolls over: Google this:

"high scores screen cubeman", and click on the first result. (UTube won't allow posting the URL)... I'm sure the arcade would do the same.

[yuffielover]

What was your highest score on that game when you got over 1000000 pts.? I had 1027190.

[zhorik]

Very strong play. What's your high score without save states on both arcade and MAME?

[VelvetRolo]

It's been at least a year since playing a complete game, but with MAME it was approx 620,000 (nowhere near the kill screen, yet).

Haven't even seen an actual arcade machine for at least a decade, and the last time I played was before I had any idea of how to do the slow levels. Score of about 325,000, eons ago in University... didn't even think about Ms. Pacman till ~17 years later with MAME.

[PLAL1057]

you CHAETED!!!

[Jelle147]

'mouthwork' LOL

[Jelle147]

Even so, well done ;)

and nice moves

[TheTechSupportGeek2]

Notice how the high score stayed registered at 999,970 after you got 1,000,000 points! That would suck if somebody spent a lot of quarters playing this game to get this score, only to see it stuck at 999,970!

[TheTechSupportGeek2]

So what if you cheated? When I played that NES hack "Super Mario Forever", I used the save/load game features how many times? Go on...guess! My total time playing and beating the game ended up being 54 minutes!

[Spikeruleshell]

Nice...Hey cool, 1st comment...