question if the rod bearing are making the knocking noise would it be possible to replace just the bearings from bottom by removing the pan etc? my sami has the same noise and check the compression on the pistons and found the #3 has 30psi difference with the others.
and I wonder if this issue would affect the smoke inspection, I have a relatively good condition carburetor, a new exhaust system with cat converter, muffler, and pacesetter headers but still makes me think if would pass...thanks
@mikevegas88 Well, If the bearings are bad then the rod is more than likely bent because the bearings wore out and the rod bent with the bearings....its a hell of a job to change the bearings If you pull your oil pan and see metal shavings your rods bent already.
@mikevegas88 I was really hoping It was in my case...but when I took the oil pan off there were metal chunks in it....really bumed me out...I loved that sami.
Did you ever figure out what the noise was from? I have a 2005 XL7 with 139k miles and got a similar noise coming for the right side of the engine (driver side) directly behind the exhaust manifold heat shield.
my suzuki has 375xxx on it and still running strong now i have my 4x4 it wont let me put it rear wheel drive so i cnt drive it no where i tought it was the drive shaft but nope its still omn there
haha,you nkow how you fix this problem,put the garden hose thru the carbinator,open the water step on the gas pedal to the flor for five minute,then change the oil.
@savagebuster i wish you would have told me that before i sold it for almost nothing.. I looked into a kit and it was 1000...and the new motor was 2500 off ebay....i think the kit would
@saulisrztk yeah..I sold it for 400 to a friend...breaks my heart everythime I see one diving! you should find a carb on craigs list. They are soo much fun to drive!
did you check the distributor because mine had that noise and i changed out the distributor because the weights at the bottom were loose. also, i got my alternator rewounnd and the noise went away
@MrLakebum21 Well It was a bent crankshaft...I sold it...I hated that but I couldn't afford a new motor for it. I like Samurai's but the motors and not easy or cheap.
it could be your distributor. it has the weights in the bottom and it could also be the alternator. i had this same problem with mine. btw im 15.... but i build samurais so i know what im talking about!(most of the time)
Pop the motor and change it for a 1.6. I rebuilt a 1.3 and has been a headache every since. I have to change heads out because although I ground the valves I didn't shave the head. As soon as it gets running well, it goes on the market. I prefer my 57 Jeep. It sounds like a rod might be rattling. Just for an inexpensive test, buy some "engine honey" and see if it quiets it down. If it does then you know it is a serious problem.
@Quillrun I did some research and this is expensive to replace or rebuild. I think I might just sell it as is on "Craigs list" How much should I ask for it?
Sounds like a lifter to me. Remove the valve covers, push hard on each lifter with a big screwdriver and see which one stops the noise. If that doesn't work, forget everything I said.
Try removing one spark plug wire at a time with the engine running. The knock will quit when you locate the cylinder with the problem. Once you find which cylinder it is drop the pan and check the rod bearing clearance, it should be .001 to .0015. You can use plastic gauge to check clearance. Does the noise go away after engine is warm,if so then it is piston slap.
sounds like rod knock but to be sure put a long screw driver on the rocker cover then carefully put your ear on the handle and listen for the valves, but sounds bad run it anyway the worse that can happen is you'll need a tow and a replacement engine
Olde timer mechanis (me) don't use steths. We just hold a metal bar to the spot on the engine that you want to listen to and put your ear to it. You can hear perfectly that way. A long screwdriver will work too. I would go with the least invasive check which would be lifters that might need a slight tightening/adjusting. It's just a matter of removing the valve cover. Worked like a charm with my Toyota truck. Good luck!
Did this engine sit with out coolant for a while? If So look at the water pump. If it is belt driver Remove the Belt and do a short run with out it. Mine knocked and I could not Locate the sound, the sound rang throughout the water system. The bearing is coolant lubricated and shrinks with out coolant! Good luck!
@london1817 I would still conciser the water pump, but check the the rod with the removal of the Spark and Yes the long Metallic Rod to the Ear does work.
Is it an overhead cam engine? It could be the push rod for the lifter for the valve? It could be bent? The valve wouldn't be opening/closing properly, and the plug would get fouled. I'm guessing here. IF it is, it's not that big a deal. Some work to tear the top apart, pull the rod out, and drop another in. You may have to install, run it, and then adjust it after a bit. Someone has the instructions for that engine.
dude you timing belt has moved one click had same issue it is the valves hitting the pistons check you markers and go back to original
MrPhilforbes 6 days ago
@MrPhilforbes oh man I hope not ...I sold it cheap....there was a pile of metal shavings in the oil pan though..
london1817 5 days ago
are f10-a?
HectorJ31 1 month ago
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johnnnyreb51 2 months ago
question if the rod bearing are making the knocking noise would it be possible to replace just the bearings from bottom by removing the pan etc? my sami has the same noise and check the compression on the pistons and found the #3 has 30psi difference with the others.
and I wonder if this issue would affect the smoke inspection, I have a relatively good condition carburetor, a new exhaust system with cat converter, muffler, and pacesetter headers but still makes me think if would pass...thanks
mikevegas88 2 months ago
@mikevegas88 Well, If the bearings are bad then the rod is more than likely bent because the bearings wore out and the rod bent with the bearings....its a hell of a job to change the bearings If you pull your oil pan and see metal shavings your rods bent already.
london1817 2 months ago
sound like valve lash problem, relatively an easy fix, I have mine with the same problem and I gonna (or try) replace the lashes
mikevegas88 2 months ago
@mikevegas88 I was really hoping It was in my case...but when I took the oil pan off there were metal chunks in it....really bumed me out...I loved that sami.
london1817 2 months ago
Did you ever figure out what the noise was from? I have a 2005 XL7 with 139k miles and got a similar noise coming for the right side of the engine (driver side) directly behind the exhaust manifold heat shield.
Donraja21 3 months ago
my suzuki has 375xxx on it and still running strong now i have my 4x4 it wont let me put it rear wheel drive so i cnt drive it no where i tought it was the drive shaft but nope its still omn there
hcjurado 4 months ago
@hcjurado Damn thats a bummer! I want aother one... but kinda hard to find cheap parts for them...everbody thought they had to tortue them.
london1817 4 months ago
mine has 380K on it & still runin strong
drunk4x4guy 6 months ago
@drunk4x4guy Damn! I never get that lucky with any auto's..lol
london1817 6 months ago
check the valve lash,, if that aint the problem it could be a rod knockin
drunk4x4guy 6 months ago
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any one really know what this sound really is? I have the same problem and i want to know wheres that noise coming from
MrJemmy17 6 months ago
yeah mines got that same problem but mines a wristpin not a rod knock.. srry for ur loss
lockpickman 7 months ago
@lockpickman Yeah I hate it too...I wish the motors lasted longer than 50,000!!
london1817 7 months ago
Sounds like noisy Valve lashes???
Alonsel3 7 months ago
@Alonsel3 I wished it was but it was the rod bearings.....sux!
london1817 7 months ago
blowen moter
assman24511 9 months ago
@assman24511 well it did blow later on.
london1817 9 months ago
@assman24511 shit man sorry
assman24511 9 months ago
@assman24511 Well assman, I wish I have saved the Sami but I didn't think I could find a motor.
london1817 9 months ago
yeah (suzuki sierra) same thing
they are a great engine, but a bit hard on fuel
thetassieboys 9 months ago
haha,you nkow how you fix this problem,put the garden hose thru the carbinator,open the water step on the gas pedal to the flor for five minute,then change the oil.
wallboat 10 months ago
@wallboat oh man! That would be a messy procedure!
london1817 10 months ago
samurai parts are cheap up here.and rebuilding those motors are really easy (before pushing pistons through the block)
savagebuster 10 months ago
@savagebuster i wish you would have told me that before i sold it for almost nothing.. I looked into a kit and it was 1000...and the new motor was 2500 off ebay....i think the kit would
have been to hard for me to understand...
london1817 10 months ago
haha had the same sound,, turned out that no.3 piston was shattered but being held together in the cylinder wall
thetassieboys 10 months ago
@thetassieboys What it in a Samurai?
london1817 10 months ago
maybe you should check the flapervalve.
wallboat 10 months ago
@wallboat the piston came out the side of the block.
london1817 10 months ago
hey man, you got a bad bullon replace thru the alternator wire
wallboat 10 months ago
rod bearing!
calosrav 10 months ago
@calosrav Yeah I miss that Samurai....:(
london1817 10 months ago
connecting rod bearing............
erdzventura 10 months ago
:( all i need for mine is a carb yours lookes beter than mine got it for $300
SUZUKI SAMURAI FTW!
saulisrztk 10 months ago
@saulisrztk Did you get the motor for 300? I couldn't find one so I sold the Samurai for nothing. Sucks!
london1817 10 months ago
@london1817 aww...dude you sold it for nothing?... i got mine with a messd up body...
saulisrztk 10 months ago
@saulisrztk yeah..I sold it for 400 to a friend...breaks my heart everythime I see one diving! you should find a carb on craigs list. They are soo much fun to drive!
london1817 10 months ago
:( all i need for mine is a carb yours look beter than mine got it for $300
SUZUKI SAMURAI FTW!
saulisrztk 10 months ago
did you check the distributor because mine had that noise and i changed out the distributor because the weights at the bottom were loose. also, i got my alternator rewounnd and the noise went away
MrLakebum21 1 year ago
@MrLakebum21 Well It was a bent crankshaft...I sold it...I hated that but I couldn't afford a new motor for it. I like Samurai's but the motors and not easy or cheap.
london1817 1 year ago
it could be your distributor. it has the weights in the bottom and it could also be the alternator. i had this same problem with mine. btw im 15.... but i build samurais so i know what im talking about!(most of the time)
MrLakebum21 1 year ago
It,s a Big end
wirelessnet2009 1 year ago
@wirelessnet2009 Yeah the main bearing went and bent the rod.
london1817 1 year ago
Pop the motor and change it for a 1.6. I rebuilt a 1.3 and has been a headache every since. I have to change heads out because although I ground the valves I didn't shave the head. As soon as it gets running well, it goes on the market. I prefer my 57 Jeep. It sounds like a rod might be rattling. Just for an inexpensive test, buy some "engine honey" and see if it quiets it down. If it does then you know it is a serious problem.
Quillrun 1 year ago
@Quillrun I did some research and this is expensive to replace or rebuild. I think I might just sell it as is on "Craigs list" How much should I ask for it?
london1817 1 year ago
yea adjust your valve lash and then like some people said teardown your bottom end... might be spun bearing.... take it to a machine shop!!!
elmexicandehoustone 1 year ago
Sounds like a lifter to me. Remove the valve covers, push hard on each lifter with a big screwdriver and see which one stops the noise. If that doesn't work, forget everything I said.
breezebro 1 year ago
@breezebro Hey its worth a shot anyway! Thanks!
london1817 1 year ago
Go electric man.
edstar83 1 year ago
@edstar83 I am going barney rubble man! I am going to sawzaw the floorboards out!
london1817 1 year ago
@london1817 lol well you cant get any greener than that. :)
edstar83 1 year ago
Try removing one spark plug wire at a time with the engine running. The knock will quit when you locate the cylinder with the problem. Once you find which cylinder it is drop the pan and check the rod bearing clearance, it should be .001 to .0015. You can use plastic gauge to check clearance. Does the noise go away after engine is warm,if so then it is piston slap.
hairy440 1 year ago
@hairy440 It makes this noise always. If the motor is cranked it sounds like this
the whole time.
london1817 1 year ago
sounds like rod knock but to be sure put a long screw driver on the rocker cover then carefully put your ear on the handle and listen for the valves, but sounds bad run it anyway the worse that can happen is you'll need a tow and a replacement engine
carrabec99 1 year ago
@carrabec99 True! I have dying to 4x it til it blows!
london1817 1 year ago
Olde timer mechanis (me) don't use steths. We just hold a metal bar to the spot on the engine that you want to listen to and put your ear to it. You can hear perfectly that way. A long screwdriver will work too. I would go with the least invasive check which would be lifters that might need a slight tightening/adjusting. It's just a matter of removing the valve cover. Worked like a charm with my Toyota truck. Good luck!
Praxxus55712 1 year ago
@Praxxus55712 I will try that! Thank you.
london1817 1 year ago
A Valve is more of a tick. This is a rod bearing. I have a motor at the shop you can have cheap, but the shipping would kill the deal lol
ShawnCFarm 1 year ago
@ShawnCFarm Maybe I could just pick it up! What state are you in? Maybe I could ship it.
london1817 1 year ago
@london1817 Ont Canada lol
ShawnCFarm 1 year ago
@ShawnCFarm Oh wait...thats a good ways & a couple country miles from here! Haha...Thanks but I might just try to rebuild this one. Thank you though!
london1817 1 year ago
a cheap scope would help. could be just a lifter i hear but more then likely a rod knock .
make sure the oil gauge is hooked up, Been there before too =0
czarwright 1 year ago
@czarwright Thats true I shold get one . thank you!
london1817 1 year ago
Did this engine sit with out coolant for a while? If So look at the water pump. If it is belt driver Remove the Belt and do a short run with out it. Mine knocked and I could not Locate the sound, the sound rang throughout the water system. The bearing is coolant lubricated and shrinks with out coolant! Good luck!
H2O2FromH20 1 year ago
@H2O2FromH20 No. It ran good. then one day it just started making that noise.
london1817 1 year ago
@london1817 I would still conciser the water pump, but check the the rod with the removal of the Spark and Yes the long Metallic Rod to the Ear does work.
H2O2FromH20 1 year ago
You can use a cheap stethiscope sp? to find out which one.
TheJeffofalltrades 1 year ago
Sounds like the lifter to rod. If it is bent you'll have to replace, maybe try some lucus additive.
TheJeffofalltrades 1 year ago
@TheJeffofalltrades Thats a good idea! I don't want to change motors.
london1817 1 year ago
Is it an overhead cam engine? It could be the push rod for the lifter for the valve? It could be bent? The valve wouldn't be opening/closing properly, and the plug would get fouled. I'm guessing here. IF it is, it's not that big a deal. Some work to tear the top apart, pull the rod out, and drop another in. You may have to install, run it, and then adjust it after a bit. Someone has the instructions for that engine.
bigc028282 1 year ago
@bigc028282 It is a overhead cam. I will check the plugs. Thanks.
london1817 1 year ago
Most def sounds like a rod knock...
Touch the block and see if you can "feel" the knock more on one side of the block or on the head.
WizzleThump 1 year ago
@WizzleThump Agreed, big time rod knock!
hangingaround87 1 year ago
@hangingaround87 C'mon man ...maybe it will just go away! haha
london1817 1 year ago
@WizzleThump You can feel it a little. pretty soon it will be out the side.
london1817 1 year ago
@london1817 any one really know what this sound really is? I have the same problem and i want to know wheres that noise coming from.
MrJemmy17 6 months ago