KDE 4.3 Plasma overview

[TheAtomKiller2000]

This reminds me of Kubuntu 9.10, it was gorgeous.

The Air theme is fantastic.

[exbibyte]

what OS is default by the latest KDE?

because fedora's default is Gnome3. i pretty like it but i also want to see the improvements of KDE.

[nnusnta]

@exbibyte Kubuntu 11.10

[SELG88]

how do i install this on ubuntu



[TheAtomKiller2000]

@SELG88

apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.

[nnusnta]

@SELG88 type this in terminal:

sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

[veggenskrikk]

KDE more and more looks like Windows. BAD!

[cbader92]

@veggenskrikk Looks nothing like Windows. This is looking far better, in my opinion.

[veggenskrikk]

@cbader92

Well, while I'd agree it is better, it does look similar to me... cold blue and semi-translucent, stuff floating on the screen - Windowsy.

[xyz98741]

Fuck Lenucks that piece of shit bullshit

[norcalmikey99]

They lost me on the GPS feature. A little scary. Can that be disabled?

[lowtone10]

according to your im thing, you are 110 years old XD

[javi3rlpz]

i'm using linux mint 8 kde rc1 was released yesterday thusday 21 january, i was using linux mint 8 and i think i'm going back to mint 8 i think its easier to use.

[cstrife89]

I haven't been keeping up with KDE, as I've been using Ubuntu (which uses GNOME) for a while now. Since Kubuntu uses KDE, I'll probably set up a VM and give it a shot.

I'm open to suggestions on other distros to try, but keep in mind that I'm basically a Linux noob. ^^;

[neelaakaasham]

Hi cstrife89, Linux Mint has a KDE version, which i personally like very much. Its a beginner-friendly distro. Its main GNOME version is quite famous already, and it based on Ubuntu. Mint 7 already has its KDE version, and Mint 8's KDE would be out pretty soon. Give it a try on your VM.

[lowtone10]

@cstrife89 you can install it alongside (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop), but be warned, i installed kde and xfce on ubuntu and had thunar fighting with nautilus, and kde wallet wanting my passwords

[Zune0the0Hedgehog]

help me

/watch?v=KrX2NkYODLo

[clovim]

Great work. I used to avoid KDE on my netbook, but version 4.3 works great. Beautiful, useful and light. Congratulations.

[samanen]

I'm just now switching from Gnome to KDE :) Let's see what KDE really is!

[Dreadfultime]

any updates on your change?

[suleydaman]

I am thinking of switching to Lnux but i am not sure which to use, its between Ubuntu and openSUSE. I have heard that Ubuntu is good and that openSUSE is really good, but have heard the KDE is not so good. So I am confused. Can anyone help me? Thanks.

[shiznetlcd]

if you like KDE go with suse KDE is gr8 there's just a whole lot of glitches

[jhgoi7ztpoh]

in my opinion, no one should switch to linux just because of a desktop environment. but if you want to do so use ubuntu.

[suleydaman]

Thanks shiznetld

jhgoi7ztpoh, I'm not switching just for the desktop enviro, i just wanted to know peoples opinions to help make my choice, But i think now I will go with ubuntu. Thanks.

[Purrebark]

are you gnome or kde?

[dinoabraham]

I am using Mandriva 2010. It is a very good linux distro. I would say it is even better than Ubuntu and Suse. Ubuntu has lots of bugs. I have used almost all versions of linux (gentoo, mint, suse, ubuntu, Gos, Mandriva etc etc. But found Mandriva much better and matured version.

[roGk70]

@suleydaman i used ubuntu, thats realy great!. i prefer gnome to kde & to you i'll advise gnome.)

[YouMockMe]

I've had a lot of issues with SUSE. I suggest (k)Ubuntu or Mint. Mint runs on off the Ubuntu repository so you're not loosing out between them. I use Ubuntu but I really liked Mint, it's more aesthetically pleasing and and comes with more "out of the box" stuff... Ubuntu is a solid OS without a doubt.

KDE vs Gnome, its all about the interface. Gnome takes less resources (less eye candy but you can add). There is also XFCE; very little eye candy but it takes up almost no recourses.

More info?

[JackOShanter]

When I started using Linux, I installed the most popular one at that time, and reserved a ~7G partition for testing. Dual boot is pretty easy to setup. In time I tried lots of distros, 'till I eventually found the one that suits me best.

[XMacWizardX]

Well KDE, for me atleast, seemed too bulky and busy looking for me. I like things to be clean and simple for the most part. But if you see this vid and like KDE then try it, you can always switch over later ( to Gnome )

OpenSuse is a good tryout with KDE ( or Mandriva )

As for Ubuntu, look at Linux Mint, it literally is Ubuntu perfected ; )

Goodluck :D

[shiznetlcd]

this is one of the reasons i'll wait for opensuse 11.2 b4 fully converting to linux

[johngrover77]

on KDE 4.3.3 how do you install and get new widgets...

[johngrover77]

they changed the widget area and forget to add a install switch, and get more...unless they hide it like other things..but can not seem to find where...

I am running opensuse 11.2 b3 Kde 4.3.3

[shemraschke]

i've been a gnome user for ever. and I hated this kde at first.. as usual. but i installed it for my mom and have been using it for about 2 days now. i think I may be converting permanently. i have to say theres a lot of shit they got right.

[reallysecretusername]

Looks better than that junk that was 4.2. I wonder how much popularity KDE lost from 3.x to 4.x.

[shiznetlcd]

yea 4 ruined KDE

[mayo705]

Do you use OpenGL acceleration for windowing? I noticed video of KDE Plasma on Nokia N900 Maemo and seems working ok but not optimized. Will you use OpenGL as basis in future?

[somegermangeek]

What a helpful answer. Let me guess, you were thinking about disabling all effects. But I wasn't talking about them, but only those small unnecessary animations like the sliding up calendar.

[mattetjus]

if you are talking about the compiz stuff, you can disable one thing at a time if you just go through the Compiz configuration...

[somegermangeek]

I admit I wasnt clear enough about what I meant, sorry. I mean things like the fading out selection mark in Dolphin when moving the mouse away from an items. And when I expand an entry in Amaroks collection it slides open instead of just opening.

[somegermangeek]

I would like a way to disable all those little animations. They take up time which adds up in the long run. What's so wrong with a calendar that pops up immediately?

[Keruaran]

You can disable them...

[LeoNatan25]

Someone's been copying from Windows 7, I see.

[doshly]

Don't you mean someone's been copied by Windows 7?

[LeoNatan25]

You need to check history of both KDE 4.3 and Windows 7. Some of the features shown here have been even in Vista.

[adamthe1st]

And ALL of those features were in KDE 3. Nub.

[Thesupermadman]

Correction: Some of the features in Vista have been even in KDE. Many of the features in KDE aren't available in Vista, and probably won't be for a long, long, LONG time...

[LeoNatan25]

Nor should they ever need to be, thank you very much. You can keep your stupid cube spinning for yourself, we don't want it.

[Apple will probably steal it for OS X 10.7, though.]

[Keruaran]

And yet here you are watching KDE 4.3 vids... QQ some more ?

[LeoNatan25]

Because unlike you infantile crybabies, I don't care who stole what from whom, I care if the end result is good. KDE4.3 is great, that's all that matters to me (certainly much better than Gnome).

[joplass]

What are you idiots always insist on bashing one portion of Linux to bring up the other. I use Gnome, KDE, OpenBox, Fluxbox and they all have some things I like and some I don't like. Get a grip of yourself people.

[shiznetlcd]

LOL ever heard of kde 3? BITCH even KDE 4.0 was before win7 and still has all of its features and another thing COMPIZ FUZION/BERYL IS DIFFERENT FROM KDE OR GNOME NUB

[LeoNatan25]

You are so stupid, it made me LOL irl.

[shiznetlcd]

LOL wtf dude kde3 most of the features of kde4 and was b4 win7 so what's your point i stated facts BITCH

and don't you know compiz fusion is seperate from kde GTFO dude you don't know wut ur saying

[LeoNatan25]

None of what is shown here is Compiz, dumb ass. Stop embarrassing yourself.

[shiznetlcd]

in case you haven't noticed you i was replying to your DUMBASS ok and you said spinning boxes thatscompiz fuzion k BITCH

[mohimohi1983]

I'm a gnome users, but unfortunately, gnome developers are not as active as KDE. Trying to install kde 4.3 on my arch linux computer to see if I can finally migrate to it.

[FinnCoder]

I'm using KDE4.3 on Ubuntu Jaunty and it's AWESOME! :) Finally I can dump Gnome. Great work KDE-guys!

[goford90]

gnome is bland. i like kde better.

[maw88ify]

@goford90 KDE looks like it was made for a 15 years old girl. Gnome is way more customizable than KDE , and Gnome you can resize your desktop icons by right clicking on them to Stretch Icons or replace just one icon with out theming the whole OS. In KDE you can't store projects on your desktop only short cuts to the the file. KDE has less desktop effect , and you can't add wallpaper to your file browser. over all KDE you have to use it as it come, but Gnome I can theme it to look like any OS.

[Keruaran]

@maw88ify Your post reveals you know nothing about the KDE Plasma desktop.

[maw88ify]

@Keruaran Ok other than me being wrong about the icon resizing that I will admit everything else I'm right about...

[maw88ify]

@Keruaran If I'm wrong than show me how to give KDE a Mac theme ... I'm betting it's way easier in Gnome... If I'm wrong show me a video of yourself saving a text file directly on the desk, and not just a shortcut to the file... If I'm wrong show me you change just one folder icon with out change every folder icon... KDE has less desktop effect if I'm wrong than prove it... Kwin is getting better but it's not good as the stuff in Gnome.

[xkeltoix]

kde never ceases to impress me

[Csthedog1]

windows

[xkeltoix]

windows got the design idea for windows 7 from the kde team.

[adjohnson916]

Yet in this very video at 2:15, they explain how they are developing a direct copy of Window 7's Aero Peek in the taskbar thumbnail previews.

Not that I give a shit about OS wars, or am allied to any OS dogmatically. I'm glad when good features grow in the direction of broad multi-OS implementation.

[xkeltoix]

windows 7 has a few differences, and did you expect that the kde team would refuse to take it?

[reya10276]

I just installed KDE 4.3 on my Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop and it rocks, I can see this giving windows a run for its money for sure. KDE team has done an awesome job.

[mautzedun]

lohopiton!!!!!!!!!!!

[halvdansk]

The thing i hate most is that it's so got damn slow, nearly every windowmanager i have tried lags when i move windows etc (e17 is the exception) i want it to be clean and fast as hell..

[Thesupermadman]

Fluxbox?

[halvdansk]

have tried it a couple of times.. also tried openbox blackbox fvwm etc still slow.. I think its something wrong with xorg, gtk or qt poorly optimized or whatever..

[Thesupermadman]

What distro are you using, Gentoo? O.o

I've never experienced these problems on any computer from any consumer-level version of Linux, including a 6-year-old computer that used to run Windows XP on 256MB of RAM (which somehow ran KDE 4, by any standards, "quickly" on Ubuntu) and when using DSL on an ancient Windows 98 computer with 128MB of RAM, using Fluxbox.

[halvdansk]

When i mean slow, i mean slow compared to windows and mac, its pretty fast.. but not fast or smooth enough (i used to use Arch also used freebsd, ubuntu, fedora suse etc the list would be too long, and i have tried to tweak every single option for speed increase ), i use my computer for games right now, go figure :) the only option for me would be if e17 releases sometimes soon and with a good suit of programs like gnome and kde :)

[NotASocialCommentary]

Awesome stuff, Aaron.

[Ptero4]

El KDE se está poniendo super excelente, pero hay algunas cosas que quisiera que mejoren (en el KDE 4.4)

1) Dolphin debería tener un quemador de discos y compresor/descompresor multiformato capaz de tratar los discos/comprimidos como carpetas regulares (permitiendo hacer todas las operaciones desde Dolphin)

2) Xbar debería funcionar en cualquier tema

3) Debería haber un plasmoid que esconda y muestre el "FolderView" del escritorio

4) Y deberían quitar ese look windozero, da asco

[Ptero4]

What I was saying (sorry I posted in Spanish) is.

KDE is getting better in each release but:

1) Dolphin is missing a multiformat archive browser and DVD burner that treats archives/DVD's like regular folders in dolphin.

2) Xbar needs to be style agnostic

3) How do I make the folderview hide/show using a hot key/hot corner.

4) make the kwin drop shadows more smooth.

5) And finally change that windoze-like default look, it's ugly.

[Thesupermadman]

1. Dolphin --> Settings --> Configure Dolphin --> Navigation --> "Open Archives as folders"

2. ...

3. Put it in an auto-hiding panel and assign a shortcut to it

4. This is dependent on what decoration you use, I think

5. What about that look? The titlebar buttons, the panel, the menu, System Settings...? The vast majority of people like it, and it's relatively easier to change things like that in KDE then it is in Gnome/XFCE/Windows.

[Ptero4]

1) Thanks for the tip about archive handling. But what about CD/DVD handling?

2) Xbar currently works only with bespin, it should work with any kstyle.

3) What I meant is. How to make the square thing with the desktop icons show only when you open the dashboard.

4) Thanks, I´ll try more decorations.

5) What I meant is that the panel layout looks like windows (7 specifically), it should have a more original look (or emulate the gnome dual-panel look, if you prefer a cool looking premade look).

[Thesupermadman]

1. I think there's technical difficulties with that... not sure though.

2. I know... I should have made clear: "Ditto."

3. Zoom out --> "Plasma options" --> "Use separate dashboard". Show dashboard --> right-click --> add widgets.

5. The defaults are sane, make sense and are familiar to the most users. There's no such thing as, "one default to rule them all". I could just as easily say, "Gnome looks too much like Mac OS and I don't like it". Thing is, it's easier to change KDE then it is Gnome.

[Ptero4]

1) Why technical difficulties. Gnome, windows and OS9/OSX already have CD/DVD burning in their filemanagers. Or are why talking about legal difficulties related to M$ patents?

3) Good one.

5) So basically "Windoze" look&feel is the only true way and any request to use a non-Windoze default MUST be rejected?

6) Also, is there any way to make dolphin open each folder in a new window? Or is it also "legally impossible".

[Thesupermadman]

5. No, it's not, "the one true way". That's why KDE is KDE/customizable. Besides, if KDE implemented everyone's ideas of what a default should be, they'd be deciding out of hundreds and possibly thousands of defaults. Better to leave the default as it was in KDE 1.0.

6. No, that's part of Konqueror. To use it as your file manager, System Settings --> Defaults --> File Manage --> Konqueror. Then, Konqueror --> Settings --> Configure Konqueror --> File Management --> Open folders in new window.

[TheyCallMeConfucious]

that geolocation thing is sweet

[AbuTheEvil]

Very nice work.. Currently running 4.2.4 on Funtoo and I really love it and it seems, with every point release it gets a lot better. Thank you very much for the hard work to all the team - I think I understood you are one of the developers.

-sorry for my bad English, I'm French -

[forrestwhitmore]

windows 7 rip off

[Keruaran]

Windows 7 rips off KDE. Get it right sunshine.

[forrestwhitmore]

Far from..Far from...

Air Theme? KDE..?

Aero Theme? Vista & 7??

I've tried KDE, and for my use it sucks...too cartoonie for my liking.

[Keruaran]

Stop astroturfing for Microsoft. The early alpha's of Windows 7 were as obvious a rip off of KDE4 as Microsoft's rip off of Kayak. Only Vista/WIn7 don't have the power, they don't have Plasma. They couldn't even be bothered changing the widget theme properly until later builds. They even ripped off a wallpaper from Vladstudio from the previous year, doing little more than removing the droplets and putting in a fish. For anyone actually paying attention Microsoft's ripoffs are BLATANTLY OBVIOUS.

[forrestwhitmore]

I just like Microsoft way better, no need to get all agro haha

[Keruaran]

You mean you like a poor imitation better than the real deal... ok then.

[forrestwhitmore]

It's not that it's imitating anything...I just can't use all my programs on KDE..if KDE is able to run all Adobe software...Architecture software etc...I'll give it a go...until then...windows suits my needs.

[cumulus0007]

KDE isn't a OS, it's a desktop environment that runs on Linux, Windows, Mac OS X. Like explorer.exe and a bunch of apps like Paint, Notepad and such, but waaaay better :)

[ChrisSweden]

For anyone who pays attention it's obvious that KDE 4 took inspiration from Windows Vista. Windows 7 artstyle is pretty much the same as Vista.

[EightPointsKeyXII]

One great advantage is its not windows.

[shiznetlcd]

hmm ever heard of KDE 3 or even KDE 2? yea didn't think so

[MinhyMintyMouse]

lol try gnome =O

[uni4dfx]

i still want icons on my desktop...

[MrZammler]

Right click on desktop -> Appearance settings -> Folder view

[Keruaran]

Change your desktop appearance settings to folder view... sheesh...

[dkcarlos33]

wow, very nice.

Thanks for this video.

I hope 4.3 gets into debian testing/unstable very fast :D

[steverweber]

don't like

- widgets, they seem like any other window but should be in a task list

- the K menu.. looks nice but many clicks to get around

Want

- task list and system tray to be combined.. they share many of the same functions, usually opens a window when clicked

- task list buttons should be able to have custom context menu or perhaps a widget like a tray icon/button

- shelf / zoom out window(s) and let user work with them.. low resolution screens can antialias to keep details (think netbooks)

[Keruaran]

KDE already has a desktop specifically for netbooks in the works.

[wheel3r6]

very good looks sweet

[bimhimbim]

sehr schön...!

[quemoasfalto]

Muy bonito, mas que Gnome, pero eso solo vale como escaparate, yo acabe harto de su lentitud, aparte de algunos cuelgues. Yo sigo prefiriendo gnome, mas parco pero mas rapido y estable. Cuestion de gustos supongo.

Lo importante es seguir usando linux. Saludos a todos los seguidores del pinguino.

[Pawels87]

This is just awesome DE! It makes others obsolete ;)

[dranath999]

Siempre he sido de Gnome, pero he de reconocer que el entorno KDE se ve cada vez mejor.

Si la gente de Gnome persiste en incluir mas aplicaciones dependientes de MONO a futuro (de cara a Gnome 3.0), pienso cambiar mi entorno de escritorio a KDE (o XFCE que también me gusta, aunque no se qué tanto le influyen las políticas de desarrollo del Gnome)

[flash0mc]

mmmm interesante, habrá que probarlo xD

[melodramalofi]

Se ve simplemente genial. No queria pasar a KDE 4 ya que lo encontraba inestable, sobre todo el asunto de la bandeja de sistema, tema que el tipo menciona en el video. Simplemente genial. Una pena que no tenga el marketing al nivel de MacOsx o Windows.

Genial el KDE.

[111ARTEAGA]

este videos es invcreible