I love how canadiens brag about how soon cancer treatments are started. Just how many people survive those treatments with a good quality of live? My father died after the system milked his insurance to death. He was a sick S.O.B. for a good year of chemo. And I've heard of others who went through radiation treatments that yes they were alive but their quality of life was gone...
I just watched a utube vid on fox "news" taking the piss out of Canadian health care, the American's also took the piss out of the British NHS too.
The Americans are so brainwashed and their news channels are worried about losing commercials from medical insurance companys so of course they won't knock them.
British NHS... probably the best health care in the world and free.
The only place in the developed world that you cannot get care if you have no money is America.
@ViCe1986 You must be talking about the Americans without insurance that have to wait 3 months to save enough to pay for that Primary Care visit or operation...right?!
No I am talking about the fact that the average wait time for PCP and non emergency operations is 4 months. If the Canadian healthcare system is so great why did the Canadian Supreme Court rule that the state monopoly on healthcare is unconstitutional because people are not getting access to care?
Like the US Veterans Healthcare System, the Canadian Healthcare system is filled with waiting for care. So bad the courts had to intervene, and allow private clinics.
@ViCe1986 Very, very few Private clinics in Canada perform operations. Most are boutique clinics charging 3 grand to see a family doc. We ALL get access to get care, unlike the U.S. system where MILLIONS simply forgo care because they can't afford it. To claim we wait months for a primary care doc is ignorance at its best. The average wait time is more like 4 days, in the middle of winter season. I've never waited more than 2 days for mine & most times the same day.
@ViCe1986 For surgeries, yes we wait for a few months for NON-urgent surgery like hip replacement, but we ALL get the surgery. How long does one wait in the U.S. when they have no coverage and can't afford the procedure? The ultimate in wait time, forever. Canadians don't wait for urgent surgery or procedures.
OMG GOVT PROPAGANDA - WAITING FOR HEALTHCARE IN CANADA IS REAL. YOU WAIT ANYWHERE FROM 8-30 HRS FOR EMERGENCY CARE AND 18 MONTHS TO SEE A SPECIALIST. This is video is insulting. I am a real CANADIAN> dont believe this government propaganda America. I have lived in the US and I would take your system over ours 100%
@OnlineAutoAuctions Writing in large caps DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE. Documented average wait times for ER care our care is a couple of hours for NON-urgent emergencies. A recent Stats Can report showed average wait times to see a specialist across Canada of 4 weeks. Even the B.S. Fraser Institute pegs it 17 weeks. Hardly close to your 18 month Bullshit. And that's for non-urgent care. 90% of your countrymen would NEVER choose the U.S. system over ours. Shill.
The video should be called "Talking to Ontarians". They're the most nationalist people in the country.
Also, the "choose your GP" claim is a bit of a joke. There's a massive GP shortage. My GP retired and was passed on to a new overworked doctor. The quickest you can him is two weeks.
Many Canadians don't even a family doctor. There aren't enough.
@michael 90% of Canadians have a family doc & the rest can see ANY GP in ANY walk in clinic within a couple of hours.
Again, as I pointed out on the other video, claims of wait times of 3 years to see a specialist is a joke. To say our quality of care is lower is also another myth. We have some of the best healthcare outcomes on the planet but yet our quality sucks? You are entitled to your opinion, but over 80% of us in Canada don't agree with you. National identity has nothing to do with it.
@MadHabber93 lol "Within a couple of hours". That's a very poor outcome.
And we don't have some of the best healthcare on the planet compared with the mixed systems of Europe. Quality of care is much higher in the United States -- the UN ranks them first in quality of care. Where America has trouble is keeping costs down and, related, access. A middle-class American gets better healthcare than a middle-class Canadian. Granted it's more expensive.
@michaelcust There is no evidence showing quality of care is better in the States or outcomes better. In fact, a 2007 meta-anaylis done comparing hundreds of studies out of the U.S. showed results favoured the Canadian side more often then the American side. Google openmedicine study comparing U.S> and Canadian healthcare.
@MadHabber93 And national identity has everything to do with it. Canadians rank healthcare as the most important aspect of being Canadian (even over freedom which is dangerous) and that does not reflect how our country compares to other Western countries in healthcare outcomes. Other countries not obsessed with their healthcare policy, do better.
@michaelcust I don't believe it has anything to do with national identity. Are we that brainwashed as a people?? ANd other countries are just as obsessed with healthcare as we are.
Our healthcare in Canada is terrible. The quality of care is lower than Europe or the United States. Waits to see a specialist here in Alberta -- the best funded system in the country -- are 6 months to 3 years after a recommendation from your GP. That doesn't even include treatment.
The true reason CDNs love our healthcare system is that it's part of our nat'l identity. We see it as defining who we are as a people - so it's easy to convince us that the system is great even though it's not.
Do not - DO NOT - allow your government to bring in public health care. It's Socialism. It brings everyone down to the lowest common level. You wait in line until you die because the government will only pay for a certain number of tests or procedures per year. If you're one of the ones that puts the rationing over the limit, tough for you. Go away and die is the response you'll get.
Sure i had to wait 2 months to get my knee fixed(or just pay ;p)..
Cancer treatment is started as soon as diagnosed and pays for treatments outside my country too(and 2nd doctor oppinion if you want), more important then poor me with my knee?
The private hospitals have plenty of clients.. but have to negotiate price with the goverment not the individual(or some bloodsucker corp) for healthcare clients (they still do plenty of pure private work)
Fenwick’s report revealed that the patient “Christopher,” changed name, had gone to numerous doctors and specialists in Saskatchewan for getting treated his migraine headache, vision loss and low blood pressure but all went in vain. Then at Mayo clinic in US he was diagnosed with the brain tumour and was offered to get his surgery done within few days. He then went under surgery there as he had not been treated in his own country, Canada;;(NUMEROUS DOCTORS / SPECIALISTS;
duh, i just had a specialist appointment, it was after being diagnosed and the specialist was from a 3rd world county, he could not even count the number of bones correctly in the lumbar and did not even provide any examination, yet lied and said he did, also the radiologist wrote huge malunited fracture and the specialist buried that report; yeah lawsuit
@FIXWCBCANADA Who gives a fuck about YOUR case?? Get over yourself already fat ass.
Repeat, 85% of Canadians have been MORE than satisfied with the care they have received. One bad doc does not reflect an entire system, yet here you are again, spewing the same shit. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
@MadHabber93.......... keep drinking the fluoride water.....the sooner you die the better off the rest of this country will be,,,,everyone is sick and tired of your internet trolling and lies you spew
@FIXWCBCANADA My internet trolling?? lol Tell me one lie? You mean the one where you 'just don't get it'. People under workman's comp, like you, are NOT the same as the rest of the ENTIRE country under their provincial plans?? That TRUTH dipshit???
I don't have a video because I'm not a whining hypochondriac looking for attention every few months.
Here is how the medical system in Canada works, 1st you go to your doctor, then he makes a specialists appointment, 6-8 months wait; If and when you finally get to see a specialist; he/she
will form an opinion based on ESP; (this is were many Canadians die from lack of diagnosis because no tests are ordered) if it is an injury they first inject you with cortisone and boot you down the road; Then when you go back to your doctor, it starts all over again, 6-8 month wait to see the specialist;
Canadians are so ignorant and oblivious to how UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE is Canada`s biggest lie; In Canada what you get is rationed everything, with wait lists for wait lists, it`s a
three stooges system. Then you have people who shoot their mouths off about how great the system is when they have no idea how it really functions; In Canada you get kicked around the medical cue, denied diagnosis / treatment, subjected to doctors from 3rd world countries who can't even identify body parts correctly
Canadians receive poorer medical care than third world countries, yet we pay exorbitant taxes;
which are basically paid to doctors who could care less about sick and injured; In fact some of the specialist's we bring to Canada, don't even have a clue about the human body; Some of these doctors are so bad they come over to Canada and sexually assault Canadian Women, this is not a laughing matter! google John Schneeberger;
Universal Health Care is Canada's BIGGEST lie; Canadians are oblivious to how rationed health care is used to deny medical care; there are thousand of cases on medical tourism sites providing testimonials from Canadians who have been denied medical care in Canada;
google medical tourism and see 4yourself, the facts are obvious;
@FIXWCBCANADA No one is denied medical care in Canada. That is lie. I'm arranging my lawsuit now. I know where you live and what you look like. Ugly btw. The most medical tourists come from the States dipshit. There a few isolated cases of Canadians. That's it. Your problem is, you don't know how to count. Nice. Bwahahhahahhaahhahhaha
@MadHabber93 ....like i said bring it on, and when you lose, don't say you haven't been warned; your just another ignorant oblivious Canadian who is living in a fantasy world;
Keep drinking the fluoride water, it obviously has lowered your IQ;
@FIXWCBCANADA I did. There are far more Americans traveling to Canada for treatment than Canadians traveling to the US for treatment. The higher population in the US would no doubt account for the sheer numbers, but that still basically negates your point.
"Believe it or not we used to hustle on over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse." - Sarah Palin, 2010
Canadians receive poorer medical care than third world countries, yet we pay exorbitant taxes;
which are basically paid to doctors who could care less about sick and injured; In fact some of the specialist's we bring to Canada, don't even have a clue about the human body; Some of these doctors are so bad they come over to Canada and sexually assault Canadian Women, this is not a laughing matter! google John Schneeberger;
@FIXWCBCANADA I have lived in US, Canada and in a third world country and your comments are incredibly incorrect. Actually out of all three, in my family's experience, Canada has the best healthcare.
Universal Health Care is Canada's biggest lie, Tommy Douglas the HERO of medicare, would never have let happen what is happening today; Many Canadians are dying waiting for medical care; THIS IS A FACT; Anyone who tries to tell you different is living in a plastic bubble and cannot understand that our health care is being rationed; People who have paid taxes all their lives are being denied medical care, take a look at medical tourism and see how many Canadians have had to travel for surgery..
Fixwcb is Canada's biggest IDIOT. He doesn't realize he is being controlled by what is essentially a private insurance agency known as Workman's Comp. He is NOT under the provincial healthcare program that 99% of the country is under.
@FIXWCBCANADA Go fuck yourself dickhead. YOu are stupid too realize that you didn't warn me, you warned greatercc.
And I will counter sue for you lying about equating people like you getting delayed care from a PRIVATE agency vs. the rest of the country who DOESN'T. That's why 85% of Canadians are satisfied with the care they have received. Facts TRUMP idiots every time.
If I got any part of that wrong, then sue me fat ass!!!
Universal Health Care is Canada's biggest lie, Tommy Douglas the HERO of medicare, would never have let happen what is happening today; Many Canadians are dying waiting for medical care; THIS IS A FACT; Anyone who tries to tell you different is living in a plastic bubble and cannot understand that our health care is being rationed; People who have paid taxes all their lives are being denied medical care, take a look at medical tourism and see how many Canadians have had to travel for surgery....
I don't know who @FIXCBCANADA is, but he is obviously a liar. Canada has Medicare for everyone. There are no medical insurance companies to fight with. Do a search for health insurance companies in Canada and see how many you find. I can tell you already. ZERO!
@greatercc ,duh what you have stated....called me a liar is slander and defamation of character and I can now sue you in a court of law, I hereby give you 1 month to remove your comment a print a retraction or I will come after you. FYI; there are numerous companies across Canada who you have no choice but to beg with for medical care; If you do not understand this, you are ignorant and oblivious to what is happening right in front of your face, you are the classic ignorant Canadian;
That is just TOTAL BULLSHIT; UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IN CANADA IS A BIG FUCKING LIE;
watch the y-tube video, Fighting for Justice - My Story of medical malpractice and judicial abuse ;
This is how Canada"s health system works, long wait lists, rationed health care to keep costs down, foreign doctors who are afraid to advocate for the patient; and finally denial of medical care for life-saving operations; Obviously these people in this video are ignorant what is really happening;
yea watch the video on you-tube called;medical malpractice in Canada and see how fucking good the Canadian Health system is ;;;;you fucking people int his video are ignorant fucking people
who don't have a fucking brain what is really going on.....i paid $3000 a month in taxes for well over 20 yrs and i cannot even get a fucking cortisone shot,,,,so fuck off you liars
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS A BIG LIE IN CANADA YOU ARE DENIED TIMELY DIAGNOSE TREATMENT IF IT IS AN AUTO ACCIDENT OR WORK INJURY; THIS IS SO THE INSURANCE COMPANY DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY ANY BENEFITS; WATCH THE U-TUBE VIDEO;
@FIXWCBCANADA If this is what you really believe - than you are just a person who has been well conditioned by the bullshit Republican propaganda. Ignorance is not an excuse, it is just sad. I feel sorry for you - really.
@gabainvan92 ,,,, i am neither a republican or a democrat, or a liberal / ndp / conservative;
I am a truth-er, who believes everything happens for a reason, and it is clearly evident, that our health care system is sadly controlled by people who couldn't give a rats ass, whether you live or die; watch some medical tourism videos of Canadians who have been denied operations, and after 16 yrs find relief in India / Mexico / etc.
In Canada you need a lawyer to get medical care, just fkn great?
@gabainvan92 Fixwcb has posted all this shit countless times. He's a poor little workman's comp case that tries to equate his case with the rest of the population that is not affected that way. I truly believe he has mental issues. Just by going by his posts, its pretty obvious.
last week i went and got my mri /ct scan and the doctor was a fucking liar, he filed false report with workers comp to deny me medical care, so fuck you too Madhabber, Canada's all about denial of medical care, and i will post the PROOF;
Canada's healthcare is a disaster, my doctor requested a cortisone shot for treatment in April 2011, and I am still waiting as of today Dec, 24, 2011;
Over 100 Doctors to diagnose a spinal injury;
Whenever there is significant injury and insurance interests, you will be denied timely diagnose / treatment;
Last week I said enough is enough and went and got my mri / CT scan and while copying them for medical tourism, a report and scan shows I have a malunited fractured spine that they hid from me;
@FIXWCBCANADA Do you really think that in cases involving insurance companies your health is not weighted against their costs? This is the reason why you need a "good" lawyer. Just having a lawyer is not enough. I had a case against an insurance company in Vancouver B.C that went on for six years and finally ended in 2010. I received good and prompt care regardless of intensity and specifications. But, I had an unbelievably great lawyer whose case-knowledge reached above average heights.
@gabainvan92 ,,,, yea your so right, in Canada you need a lawyer to get medical care, without one, you will likely die; (PS) in April 2011, i was referred, for a cortisone shot, it is now December 28/ 2011 - I am still on the waiting list? How the fucking hell is this even possible? (now this is were it gets even more interesting) I went and got my mri / ct scan from the injury suffered in nov 2004 in which i received the tests in 2010, 5+ yrs after injury;
@FIXWCBCANADA I am sorry if my point was not clearly made. You only have to have a lawyer to receive proper care when you are fighting with insurance companies. You had to wait prolonged periods of time for care because the insurance company "in concert with your family physician" did not put you on the urgent care list. Health care is not culpable here. It is the fault of your family physician and the insurance company you are fighting with. It is standard insurance practice to drive you mad!
@FIXWCBCANADA Wow, more anecdotes and stories eh asshole. Oh wait, they are the same ones you posted months ago. Wow, at least your consistent. Consistently fucking wrong.
BLAME WORKMAN"S COMP, not our UHC system.
Once you get that through your fat head, maybe you'll lose weight and get better.
Here's a piece of advice. Stop eating pizza, sitting at home watch gay porn all day long, and maybe you'll shed some of that fat!!!
@MadHabber93 Diane Gorsuch twicehad heartsurgery cancelled;shesuffered a fatal heart attack before her 3rdsurgery.In Great Britain,MavisSkeet had hercancer surgery cancelled four times beforeher cancer was determinedto have become inoperable.In Australia,eight-year-old Kyle Inglis has lost 50%hearing while waiting nearly 11 monthsfor an operation to remove a tumor in his ear. Kyle is one of over 1,000 children waiting over600 days for ear, nose &throat surgeryin Warnbro, Australia.read more.
@circusboy90210 You are giving me 2 examples from other countries NOT Canada. In the U.S., 2 Million, let me repeat that number, 2 MILLION American cancer patients had to forgo needed medical treatment as they could no longer afford treatment. Not to mention, you are providing anecdotal evidence not real numbers like 2 Million people going without care AT ALL, let alone waiting for it.
You got your source from the free market cure, a highly biased,cherry picking source.
@circusboy90210 Where did I say its free?? Tell me then, how much is your insurance or is it employer sponsored? How much do you make per year, and what income taxes do you pay? Let's figure it then shall we.
@MadHabber93 I don't chose to have insurance right now, I'm a gambler, however for me to have full coverage would be about $175 per month . I'm my own boss. what I make varies from season to year. I've never had to pay any taxes as my expenses are all deductible.
I'm so happy to have a clear headed rational discussion instead of a flame war, thank you for your civility.
@circusboy I'm sorry $175/month? I don't buy it. I believe we are the same age roughly, & I've gone on a number of U.S. insurance sites, and the cheapest I found was like $5 or $600/month with a $1000 to $2000 Deductible, $80 to $100 co-pays and 80/20 split on hospital bills.
So if you paid no taxes because you deducted all expenses, then wouldn't your expenses = your income? I have no problem being civil with civil people like you. Don't undertand the brother part.
@MadHabber93 everything in operating a business is deductable if you have a pair of regular and a pair of work shoes the work shoes are deductible. when your deductions equal your tax liability you owe no taxes.
yes insurance for me is about $175 with a $500 deductible, last time I checked. belive it was blue cross blue shield. they sent me an offer and I declined. probably will sign up for the dental soon.
yes figure out on my brothers income , he works at a place of employment.
@circusboy90210 I understand what you mean by deducting expenses. I'm in sales, and I deduct a lot too. But deductions is spending. If they are all business related expenses, which deducts your income to where you don't pay taxes, then that wouldn't leave a whole lot left.
That's what I thought you meant about your brother. Have to be another night though. Hitting the sack soon.
@MadHabber93 leaves me plenty of money left, and also when I'm spending that money it's for stuff I need, you know the reason we make money? food while on the road making money is an expense , so is the hotel room, gas money etc. things I would not have to spend on at home like restaurants( plus i don't have to wash dishes or clean up) . when the governent pays that means they make decisions not you. he with the gold makes the rules.
there is no money for this in America. our government can't even balance it's own check book. how on earth could i sleep at night knowing an administration as financially unstable as the the one in power is also running my healthcare system? not to mention the population of this country far exceeds the Canadian population, you're talking about coverage in a whole different ball game. the validity of this video is flawed from the lack of understanding about my country from my neighbors up north.
1 -Why is it that American health system doesn't cover everybody as the Canadian does, if they spend a bigger share of their GDP in health care than Canada?
2 - What do Canadians have to say about this critique: "health care in Canada is universal, but you have to wait months on a line for it". I see a lot of Americans arguing that.
@luizcadu I have never had to wait in emergency situations. The wait times are quite exagerated. If everyone in America had the same amount of money to pay for healthcare, there would be longer waits too. since a large portion of the population cannot afford medical expenses there are much shorter wait lines because less people are able to pay. it saddens me that the american right wing media will continue to rant and distort the facts while the average american suffers.
@luizcadu I believe it's all about power, control and money. We've seen the same mind games in the former USSR... although the source is different, the message is the same; the people are spoon fed propaganda by these greedy corporations but don't seem to have any interest in asking questions. To challenge is considered unpatriotic... not to mention the truth is that the American people have allowed their lives to be nothing more than a commodity,stripped of their rights and even their humanity.
@luizcadu the thing is that indeed you wait longer, but it will not bankrupt you. What is better, to wait to have your treatement or to not have it AT ALL?
@bengacris It's funny how how right wingers complain about "having to pay for other people's health care", but they don't realize it's in their own self-interested not having to worry about money if you have a serious accident or a cancer (which might happen to anyone).
I'd like to know more about this single-payer system, moving health insurance companies out of the way seems like the way go for a cost effective health system. We don't even have a name for it in Portuguese!
@luizcadu Exactly! Right wingers don't want to pay for other people because they want to keep their money. But what will happen once THEY get an health problem and they don't have the money? Here in Canada you can't open your own hospital, it's run by the governement and IT WORKS. Some US citizens are just scared of the word "Social" because they still think that they are still fighting the USSR.
@bengacris they have the money to pay for it because they are not paying 17% sales tax, dental is not covered. income tax is 30% for something you probably will never need. so in the end run you end up paying for more than you ever use. if you are too old you are not allowed certain procedures.
@circusboy90210 Boy, everything you wrote is incorrect. We don't pay 17% in sales taxes. For the average income Canada, we pay about 20% in income taxes. You add up what you spend on taxes, plus premiums, plus deductibles, plus co-pays,etc. (that we pay none of), YOU end up paying WAY more than us. And that's for those WITH insurance. And we NEVER are not allowed a procedure based on age, unless the doc feels you would die on the operating table. Get your facts straight!!!
@MadHabber93 I lived there 3 years travelling all over, probablly seen more of your own nation than you have. yes some places there do have 17% sales tax pst +gst.yes people are denied a procedure based on age and quality of remaining life.no americans do not end up paying more. if canada was so much better for medicene I would have become a citizen when I had the chance. premiums plus co pays for most procedures if you need one is way less than 29% tax brackets on a mere 100k .so no not free.
@circusboy90210 Spare me your 3 years. I've been here 42 years, work in the Pharma industry and travel extensively throughout Canada for years. Those being hospitals throughout Canada. There is NO province that pays 17% pst + gst. Gst is now 5%. There is no province that has a 12% sales tax.
And NO PEOPLE ARE NOT DENIED A PROCEDURE based on age.
Yes, the average American will pay more in premiums, deductibles, copays + there income taxes. Its not even close.
The Canada Health Act Discriminates Against Injured
Workers By Excluding Them From "Access To Health Services Without Financial Or Other Barriers" By Excluding "Any Health Services That A Person Is Entitled To And Eligible For Under Any Act Of The legislature Of A Province That Relates To Workers' Or Workmen's Compensation" And That This Leaves Injured Workers Vulnerable To Wrongdoing By The Workers Compensation System
the canadian system is great but then again, canada is a country of about 20 million. america has 300 million people plus who knows how many mexicans. we cant take care of everybody. instead of universal healthcare, we should have a public option where you have the choice between good expensive private insurance and decent free public insurance
@KennyBare Yes, the whole public option is good but a socialised system CAN work in America... well maybe it should have been established 50 years ago to get the base started...
More people=More tax base.. Population isn't much of a factor.
@rangergxi -explain..I mean 47% here didn't pay income taxes. This plan digs at the core of American values-freedom. Hypothetically...would you feel free if 50% more was taken out of your paycheck, and furthermore what's stopping 90% from being taken out? To add one more concept...the American government is running rampant in fascism...whats to stop the proposed healthcare system from being a fascist giant wrapped in a socialist cloak?
@eternalperchedbird "To add one more concept...the American government is running rampant in fascism." Wow, you're not drinking much of the Koolaide. Care to share how you've suddenly become a fascist state?
@MadHabber93 -To stick to the topic all I'm saying is that the obama nationalized health care system wouldn't work here-it's just another extension of fascism that appears to be socialism at first glance. To explain why America is a fascist country would take alot of my time to explain.
@eternalperchedbird I don't think that this video is suggesting that if it works in Canada it will work in the USA. They are just complaining about the propaganda in the USA about how poorly the system works in Canada. We (canadians) get frustrated when we hear obviously lies in your media which is pretty much our media too, anyone with cable. Personally i would be bankrupt and possibly on the streets if it wasn't for our healthcare system as well as my mother who had heart surgery.
@KennyBare 30,000,000 btw and a tax base to match. USA 300,000,000 ten times the people and potentially 10 times the tax base. I don't think an illegal is covered in Canada as they shouldn't be in the us. Healthcare is covered at the provincial level like it could be at the state level there. Face it as long as political campaigns in the us are funded by corporations like insurance companies, you won't see in the us what we have here. bad health in the US is BIG Business.
"I didn't pay anything!" - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You Pay Taxes dummies. The U.S. has the worst option, but have an opportunity to have the best, and that is a free market health care system. Catastrophic health insurance is the ONLY type of insurance that makes any sense, the only reason we have health insurance is because of a corrupt system. Health care is a personal responsibility and the costs should never be socialized by FORCE, which is the only thing that goverment is.
@DCUPtoejuice That 'free' market system is resulting in the U.S. paying far, far more than the rest of the world without producing better health outcomes.
Are roads, militry, police, a personal responsibility? Look at Somalia, they have a free market system is just about everything, how is that working out for them?
And we are well aware we pay taxes for our care, but we NEVER have to worry how to pay a bill, never have to worry about losing our job and our coverage with it. Ever.
@MadHabber93 why don't you just apply the same principle to everything? Why not? There are no downsides to having government take over an industry? Wow, what a genius solution!
@DCUPtoejuice Why not everywhere? I've heard that argument before. The quesiton is, why not healthcare? That's because you don't see it as a human right, when I do, as well as the rest of the free world. I have also heard the free market argument for healthcare would bring prices down in the U.S. 2 things, I don't believe it would just out of greed. Most docs & hospitals complain about not enough money now in the U.S. And healthcare is not like buying a pair of jeans of a shelf. contd.
@MadHabber93 well we sure do disagree. I suppose there is a human right to brush one's teeth as well. Rights protect your personal property and body from invasion by others. Your idea of rights is to take from all by force to pay for what you think all should have. Greed LOL - you guys love that word. It is exactly like many commodities that require service and are handled very well by the free market - which by the way simply means protecting individual RIGHTS - not claims on others.
@DCUPtoejuice Your comparing brushing teeth to healthcare? Give me a break. Sorry, but could I borrow 75 grand to I can buy some toothpaste?
And I love that word you throw out....Force. If you don't like taxes either move to Saudi Arabia or Somolia. They don't pay taxes there either. But check your 'individual RIGHTS' at the door.
@DCUPtoejuice You said that taxes for roads, military, police are ok because they servie the community. And good and accessible healthcare doesn't serve the community? If people have to leave work due to illness, which they can't pay to treat, then the community just lost a valuable tax payer. It mushrooms into more and more. Universal Insurance spreads the risk to everyone, thereby lowering premiums through taxes and allowing EVERYONE access to care without cost being a barrier.
@MadHabber93 The U.S. health care market has been distorted by HMO's that were mandated by the government. A free market system does not allow corporations to collude with government. In a free market the costs would drop and the quality of care would advance so quickly that people in countries with socialized medicine would bypass their "free" care to come to the free market system for the best care.
@DCUPtoejuice Secondly, healthcare costs are already very expensive in the U.S. (other countries too but not nearly as much), so let's say costs and prices dropped by half. Half of unaffordable for millions of Americans is still unaffordable.
And you are offering opinion that healthcare in the U.S. is the best. Its a common myth that many Americans like you believe that you somehow have a monopoly on great, quality healthcare. And its not just how good but how accessible.
You make the point that the military, police, etc is socialized. True, but those are things that serve the community, not individuals per se. We have CDC for that purpose. In addition, your argument opens the door for anything and everything to be socialized.
@MadHabber93 On your last point, I agree with in that catastrophic health insurance is a good idea, but that doesn't need to be government run either. We do have bankruptcy laws that allow people to escape debt and we also have charitable organizations. The socialized system turns that charity into force, which is immoral and takes the money that could otherwise be voluntarily shared.
@DCUPtoejuice Catastrophic insurance would only come into play for deathly, emergency conditons. There are millions of Americans with cancer, auto immune disease, chronic illness that catastrophic insurance would NOT cover. What do they do then when they can't work because of their illness, so they can't pay and still don't qualify for medicaide? Let them suffer and die?
@DCUPtoejuice Again, what about taxes for military, roads, infrastructure, making the country run. Is that immoral? Are all taxes immoral then? That seems to be your position.
@MadHabber93 Taxes are just fine with me so long as they are constitutional, and that means limited to the proper role of the Federal government. If you want a mandate move to Massachusetts instead of trying to convert the rest of us into your nanny state.
@DCUPtoejuice Don't need to move to Mass. as I'm Canadian. We actually care about our countrymen. Again, if taxes is immoral and taking from someone with force, then move to Somalia.
@DCUPtoejuice Dude, I'm healthy and a top wage earner in my country. Like I said, I actually care about my countrymen. You hide behind bullshit 'the constitution" that was written when healthcare consisted of potions and lotions. ALong with bullshit sayings like 'taken by force'. Careful, your shit is really starting to pile up now.
Yeah, it makes far more sense to fund a war that cost American lives for NOTHING, then fund a system that actually SAVES American lives.
@DCUPtoejuice Yeah, I have nooooooo clue what gov't is designed to do. You are a free market Libertarian by the sounds of it. I know exactly how you would like gov't to be. To bad realities don't mesh well with those desires of yours.
@dsspike51 you mean health insurance. You can get care in the U.S. through several means 1. pay for it 2. get insurance 3. charity In socialized medicine, you are taxed by force to pay for health care for everyone - it isn't free, the costs are just socialized. I would rather take responsibility for my own life and if I can't get care through any of the 3 options I listed above then I guess my time is up, but forcing others to pay for me is immoral, it is only moral if it is done freely.
@DCUPtoejuice I live the immoral arguement. What a crock. Its immoral to stand by and let millions of Americans forgo going to a doctor or getting a needed procedure done because they can't afford it. Its immoral to watch thousands of Americans sell their home or go bankrupt just to get care. Its immoral to watch your countrymen DIE because they delayed treatment for too long because of cost.
So, in your mind, free market healthcare like you have it right & the rest of the world is wrong.
@MadHabber93 the crock is that you think it is moral to take from someone by force to give to others. You are free to help the needy and so are doctors.
As a Canadian I can say that I have access to any doctor and specialist or hospital I want. I can tell you that in Canada you can even have abortion for free, just show your health card.
Yes there are wait times but it largely depands on the doctor and their booking practices (if you have appt) or how busy is the hospital (when you go in to emergency).
I can tell you that my daughter sees a specialist regularly and the wait time is 5-10 minutes. Her paediatrician (10-15 minutes).
@MadHabber93 wrong agian...... murder rate in the US is about 5% apposed to 1.5 % in canada.
traffic death in US is about 12 % apposed to 9% in canada.
most murder in the US is 15-24 and most diving deaths in the US is 16-24 ( canadas is about 18-24 )
4 times the ages variable in murder in the US and 2 times for car deaths..... thats almost a 4% variables and a two year age difference for car deaths
Canada has more debt per GDP than America, most of it coming from socialized healthcare. America can't afford to give people free healthcare and give the middle class an even bigger burden.
@leedaomillz Canada's debt to GDP ratio is 1/3 of that of the U.S. In fact, Canada has the lowest debt to GDP ratio in the G8. In addition, our healthcare makes up only about 11% of our GDP spending, which covers everyone. The U.S. spends 16% and does not.
I love the stupid fucking excuse... Well all the other western countries have it... Shut the fuck up. Yes, i want to be healthy, BUT I WILL MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS WITH MY OWN MONEY. AND I will give my money away to whom I see most needs it, not the government. America is the land of opportunity NOT entitlement... so fuck off.
I really don't understand people of USA. They don't mind the fact that their government is spending HUGE amounts of money for military(to kill people) but they are against using money to fund public healthcare system and thus saving lives and improving quality of life in-general.
As a Canadian (lived there for 15 years, left 2 years ago for Asia), I can tell you that Canadian health care system is SHIT.
It's total garbage, I always went to Buffalo medical group and to Rochester center to avoid waiting in these insane lines.
There are no professional doctors, those who are good are all in USA, they go to the US of-course. The queues are never ending, I knew a bunch of people who ended up dead just because of line ups.
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LambdaKore 2 days ago
I love how canadiens brag about how soon cancer treatments are started. Just how many people survive those treatments with a good quality of live? My father died after the system milked his insurance to death. He was a sick S.O.B. for a good year of chemo. And I've heard of others who went through radiation treatments that yes they were alive but their quality of life was gone...
150grnballistictip 2 days ago
How many lying Jews were used in the making of this video...
150grnballistictip 2 days ago
And America is a superpower.. still... And all this socializing is making it sink lower and lower... What does that say?
TheReasoner27 1 week ago
I just watched a utube vid on fox "news" taking the piss out of Canadian health care, the American's also took the piss out of the British NHS too.
The Americans are so brainwashed and their news channels are worried about losing commercials from medical insurance companys so of course they won't knock them.
British NHS... probably the best health care in the world and free.
The only place in the developed world that you cannot get care if you have no money is America.
Wouldn't wish it on anyone
MrVillamike 1 week ago
>thinking this is socialism
SOCIALIZED PUBLIC EDUCATION
SOCIALIZED POSTAL SERVICE
SOCIALIZED POLICE AND SHERIFF DEPT.
SOCIALIZED FIRE DEPT.
THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT SERVICES PAID FOR BY THE GOVERNMENT THROUGH TAXES
WHY IS HEALTHCARE DIFFERENT?
TheStationzero 1 week ago
YOu don't get a bill that kills you, it is the 3 month wait for Primary Care visits or medical operations that kill you.
ViCe1986 2 weeks ago
@ViCe1986 You must be talking about the Americans without insurance that have to wait 3 months to save enough to pay for that Primary Care visit or operation...right?!
MadHabber93 2 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
No I am talking about the fact that the average wait time for PCP and non emergency operations is 4 months. If the Canadian healthcare system is so great why did the Canadian Supreme Court rule that the state monopoly on healthcare is unconstitutional because people are not getting access to care?
Like the US Veterans Healthcare System, the Canadian Healthcare system is filled with waiting for care. So bad the courts had to intervene, and allow private clinics.
ViCe1986 2 weeks ago
@ViCe1986 Very, very few Private clinics in Canada perform operations. Most are boutique clinics charging 3 grand to see a family doc. We ALL get access to get care, unlike the U.S. system where MILLIONS simply forgo care because they can't afford it. To claim we wait months for a primary care doc is ignorance at its best. The average wait time is more like 4 days, in the middle of winter season. I've never waited more than 2 days for mine & most times the same day.
MadHabber93 2 weeks ago
@ViCe1986 For surgeries, yes we wait for a few months for NON-urgent surgery like hip replacement, but we ALL get the surgery. How long does one wait in the U.S. when they have no coverage and can't afford the procedure? The ultimate in wait time, forever. Canadians don't wait for urgent surgery or procedures.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
MadHabber93 2 weeks ago
OMG GOVT PROPAGANDA - WAITING FOR HEALTHCARE IN CANADA IS REAL. YOU WAIT ANYWHERE FROM 8-30 HRS FOR EMERGENCY CARE AND 18 MONTHS TO SEE A SPECIALIST. This is video is insulting. I am a real CANADIAN> dont believe this government propaganda America. I have lived in the US and I would take your system over ours 100%
OnlineAutoAuctions 2 weeks ago
@OnlineAutoAuctions Writing in large caps DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE. Documented average wait times for ER care our care is a couple of hours for NON-urgent emergencies. A recent Stats Can report showed average wait times to see a specialist across Canada of 4 weeks. Even the B.S. Fraser Institute pegs it 17 weeks. Hardly close to your 18 month Bullshit. And that's for non-urgent care. 90% of your countrymen would NEVER choose the U.S. system over ours. Shill.
MadHabber93 2 weeks ago
@OnlineAutoAuctions I had to wait 5 months to get an appointment for a procedure in the US.
PatrickNM57 1 week ago
People need the same health care, as the people thay elect ? price rate and rules.....
stringlov 2 weeks ago
The video should be called "Talking to Ontarians". They're the most nationalist people in the country.
Also, the "choose your GP" claim is a bit of a joke. There's a massive GP shortage. My GP retired and was passed on to a new overworked doctor. The quickest you can him is two weeks.
Many Canadians don't even a family doctor. There aren't enough.
michaelcust 3 weeks ago
@michael 90% of Canadians have a family doc & the rest can see ANY GP in ANY walk in clinic within a couple of hours.
Again, as I pointed out on the other video, claims of wait times of 3 years to see a specialist is a joke. To say our quality of care is lower is also another myth. We have some of the best healthcare outcomes on the planet but yet our quality sucks? You are entitled to your opinion, but over 80% of us in Canada don't agree with you. National identity has nothing to do with it.
MadHabber93 3 weeks ago
@MadHabber93 lol "Within a couple of hours". That's a very poor outcome.
And we don't have some of the best healthcare on the planet compared with the mixed systems of Europe. Quality of care is much higher in the United States -- the UN ranks them first in quality of care. Where America has trouble is keeping costs down and, related, access. A middle-class American gets better healthcare than a middle-class Canadian. Granted it's more expensive.
michaelcust 3 weeks ago
@michaelcust There is no evidence showing quality of care is better in the States or outcomes better. In fact, a 2007 meta-anaylis done comparing hundreds of studies out of the U.S. showed results favoured the Canadian side more often then the American side. Google openmedicine study comparing U.S> and Canadian healthcare.
MadHabber93 3 weeks ago
@MadHabber93 And national identity has everything to do with it. Canadians rank healthcare as the most important aspect of being Canadian (even over freedom which is dangerous) and that does not reflect how our country compares to other Western countries in healthcare outcomes. Other countries not obsessed with their healthcare policy, do better.
michaelcust 3 weeks ago
@michaelcust I don't believe it has anything to do with national identity. Are we that brainwashed as a people?? ANd other countries are just as obsessed with healthcare as we are.
MadHabber93 3 weeks ago
Our healthcare in Canada is terrible. The quality of care is lower than Europe or the United States. Waits to see a specialist here in Alberta -- the best funded system in the country -- are 6 months to 3 years after a recommendation from your GP. That doesn't even include treatment.
The true reason CDNs love our healthcare system is that it's part of our nat'l identity. We see it as defining who we are as a people - so it's easy to convince us that the system is great even though it's not.
michaelcust 3 weeks ago
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watch this video below- it clearly shows how Canada is a psychopathic crown corporation
Fighting for Justice - My Story of medical malpractice and judicial abuse ;
you fucking dumb ignorant canadians don't have a fucking clue what is really going on in your own fucking country;
your're all a bunch of dumb fucking no-it-alls, that don't have a fucking clue.
FIXWCBCANADA 3 weeks ago
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watch the video- fighting for justice ;
Fighting for Justice - My Story of medical malpractice and judicial abuse ;
you fucking dumb ignorant canadians don't have a fucking clue what is really going on in your own fucking country;
your all a bunch of dumb fucking no-it-alls, that don't have a fucking clue.
FIXWCBCANADA 3 weeks ago
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AMERICANS! Take it from a Canadian!
Do not - DO NOT - allow your government to bring in public health care. It's Socialism. It brings everyone down to the lowest common level. You wait in line until you die because the government will only pay for a certain number of tests or procedures per year. If you're one of the ones that puts the rationing over the limit, tough for you. Go away and die is the response you'll get.
DO NOT ALLOW PUBLIC HEALTH CARE IN THE U.S.A.!
Brdstfff 1 month ago
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Im not Canadian but have similar system.
Sure i had to wait 2 months to get my knee fixed(or just pay ;p)..
Cancer treatment is started as soon as diagnosed and pays for treatments outside my country too(and 2nd doctor oppinion if you want), more important then poor me with my knee?
The private hospitals have plenty of clients.. but have to negotiate price with the goverment not the individual(or some bloodsucker corp) for healthcare clients (they still do plenty of pure private work)
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Fenwick’s report revealed that the patient “Christopher,” changed name, had gone to numerous doctors and specialists in Saskatchewan for getting treated his migraine headache, vision loss and low blood pressure but all went in vain. Then at Mayo clinic in US he was diagnosed with the brain tumour and was offered to get his surgery done within few days. He then went under surgery there as he had not been treated in his own country, Canada;;(NUMEROUS DOCTORS / SPECIALISTS;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
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watch the video- fighting for justice ;
Fighting for Justice - My Story of medical malpractice and judicial abuse ;
you fucking dumb ignorant canadians don't have a fucking clue what is really going on in your own fucking country;
your all a bunch of dumb fucking no-it-alls, that don't have a fucking clue.
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
watch this video about Canada's Universal Health Care System of Denial;
Fighting for Justice - My Story of medical malpractice and judicial abuse
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
watch this video if you think Canadian Health care is so great;
Fighting for Justice - My Story of medical malpractice and judicial abuse
yeah Canada, Universal Health care is a big lie;
then you die;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
duh, i just had a specialist appointment, it was after being diagnosed and the specialist was from a 3rd world county, he could not even count the number of bones correctly in the lumbar and did not even provide any examination, yet lied and said he did, also the radiologist wrote huge malunited fracture and the specialist buried that report; yeah lawsuit
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA Who gives a fuck about YOUR case?? Get over yourself already fat ass.
Repeat, 85% of Canadians have been MORE than satisfied with the care they have received. One bad doc does not reflect an entire system, yet here you are again, spewing the same shit. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
MadHabber93 1 month ago
potty mouth go wash it out with a bar of soap
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@MadHabber93.......... keep drinking the fluoride water.....the sooner you die the better off the rest of this country will be,,,,everyone is sick and tired of your internet trolling and lies you spew
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA My internet trolling?? lol Tell me one lie? You mean the one where you 'just don't get it'. People under workman's comp, like you, are NOT the same as the rest of the ENTIRE country under their provincial plans?? That TRUTH dipshit???
I don't have a video because I'm not a whining hypochondriac looking for attention every few months.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 ......i noticed you won't put a video up so we can see just how much of a pig's ass you look like
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
Here is how the medical system in Canada works, 1st you go to your doctor, then he makes a specialists appointment, 6-8 months wait; If and when you finally get to see a specialist; he/she
will form an opinion based on ESP; (this is were many Canadians die from lack of diagnosis because no tests are ordered) if it is an injury they first inject you with cortisone and boot you down the road; Then when you go back to your doctor, it starts all over again, 6-8 month wait to see the specialist;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA Too bad a stats Canada report showed that the average wait to see a specialist is 4.2 weeks.
That is your experience with Workman's comp. SUcks to be you eh??!!
What you've described is YOUR experience with workman's comp. You are just TOO FUCKING STUPID to know the difference.
Facts trump IDIOTS every time.
That's why 90% of Canadians support our UHC system.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA I don't know were you live but that is not my experience here in Canada!
catchlightdame 1 month ago
Canadians are so ignorant and oblivious to how UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE is Canada`s biggest lie; In Canada what you get is rationed everything, with wait lists for wait lists, it`s a
three stooges system. Then you have people who shoot their mouths off about how great the system is when they have no idea how it really functions; In Canada you get kicked around the medical cue, denied diagnosis / treatment, subjected to doctors from 3rd world countries who can't even identify body parts correctly
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
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Canadians receive poorer medical care than third world countries, yet we pay exorbitant taxes;
which are basically paid to doctors who could care less about sick and injured; In fact some of the specialist's we bring to Canada, don't even have a clue about the human body; Some of these doctors are so bad they come over to Canada and sexually assault Canadian Women, this is not a laughing matter! google John Schneeberger;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
Universal Health Care is Canada's BIGGEST lie; Canadians are oblivious to how rationed health care is used to deny medical care; there are thousand of cases on medical tourism sites providing testimonials from Canadians who have been denied medical care in Canada;
google medical tourism and see 4yourself, the facts are obvious;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA No one is denied medical care in Canada. That is lie. I'm arranging my lawsuit now. I know where you live and what you look like. Ugly btw. The most medical tourists come from the States dipshit. There a few isolated cases of Canadians. That's it. Your problem is, you don't know how to count. Nice. Bwahahhahahhaahhahhaha
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 ,,, bring it on ,,,,and when you lose,,,don't say you weren't WARNED;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA spare me idiot
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 ,,,,duh your obviously the IDIOT, not only that, keep drinking the fluoride water, because it obviously has made you retarded;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 ....like i said bring it on, and when you lose, don't say you haven't been warned; your just another ignorant oblivious Canadian who is living in a fantasy world;
Keep drinking the fluoride water, it obviously has lowered your IQ;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA I did. There are far more Americans traveling to Canada for treatment than Canadians traveling to the US for treatment. The higher population in the US would no doubt account for the sheer numbers, but that still basically negates your point.
"Believe it or not we used to hustle on over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse." - Sarah Palin, 2010
deziistheone 3 weeks ago
Canadians receive poorer medical care than third world countries, yet we pay exorbitant taxes;
which are basically paid to doctors who could care less about sick and injured; In fact some of the specialist's we bring to Canada, don't even have a clue about the human body; Some of these doctors are so bad they come over to Canada and sexually assault Canadian Women, this is not a laughing matter! google John Schneeberger;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA I have lived in US, Canada and in a third world country and your comments are incredibly incorrect. Actually out of all three, in my family's experience, Canada has the best healthcare.
catchlightdame 1 month ago
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Universal Health Care is Canada's biggest lie, Tommy Douglas the HERO of medicare, would never have let happen what is happening today; Many Canadians are dying waiting for medical care; THIS IS A FACT; Anyone who tries to tell you different is living in a plastic bubble and cannot understand that our health care is being rationed; People who have paid taxes all their lives are being denied medical care, take a look at medical tourism and see how many Canadians have had to travel for surgery..
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
Fixwcb is Canada's biggest IDIOT. He doesn't realize he is being controlled by what is essentially a private insurance agency known as Workman's Comp. He is NOT under the provincial healthcare program that 99% of the country is under.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 ...i warned you before, i will not tolerate any slander/defamation ;
keep it up and i guarantee you will be subjected to a lawsuit;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA Go fuck yourself dickhead. YOu are stupid too realize that you didn't warn me, you warned greatercc.
And I will counter sue for you lying about equating people like you getting delayed care from a PRIVATE agency vs. the rest of the country who DOESN'T. That's why 85% of Canadians are satisfied with the care they have received. Facts TRUMP idiots every time.
If I got any part of that wrong, then sue me fat ass!!!
Bwahahahahahahhaahahhaahaha
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 ...this is your last warning for you, anymore slander / libel from you will result in
immediate action.
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA Maybe you didn't understand the first time. go fuck yourself. You don't even know who I am dipshit.
Look up the definition of libel and slander.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 ...get a bar of soap and wash your potty mouth out;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
Universal Health Care is Canada's biggest lie, Tommy Douglas the HERO of medicare, would never have let happen what is happening today; Many Canadians are dying waiting for medical care; THIS IS A FACT; Anyone who tries to tell you different is living in a plastic bubble and cannot understand that our health care is being rationed; People who have paid taxes all their lives are being denied medical care, take a look at medical tourism and see how many Canadians have had to travel for surgery....
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
I don't know who @FIXCBCANADA is, but he is obviously a liar. Canada has Medicare for everyone. There are no medical insurance companies to fight with. Do a search for health insurance companies in Canada and see how many you find. I can tell you already. ZERO!
greatercc 1 month ago
@greatercc ,duh what you have stated....called me a liar is slander and defamation of character and I can now sue you in a court of law, I hereby give you 1 month to remove your comment a print a retraction or I will come after you. FYI; there are numerous companies across Canada who you have no choice but to beg with for medical care; If you do not understand this, you are ignorant and oblivious to what is happening right in front of your face, you are the classic ignorant Canadian;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
That is just TOTAL BULLSHIT; UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IN CANADA IS A BIG FUCKING LIE;
watch the y-tube video, Fighting for Justice - My Story of medical malpractice and judicial abuse ;
This is how Canada"s health system works, long wait lists, rationed health care to keep costs down, foreign doctors who are afraid to advocate for the patient; and finally denial of medical care for life-saving operations; Obviously these people in this video are ignorant what is really happening;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
watch the video- fighting for justice ;
Fighting for Justice - My Story of medical malpractice and judicial abuse ;
you fucking dumb ignorant canadians don't have a fucking clue what is really going on in your own fucking country;
your all a bunch of dumb fucking no-it-alls, that don't have a fucking clue....
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
yea watch the video on you-tube called;medical malpractice in Canada and see how fucking good the Canadian Health system is ;;;;you fucking people int his video are ignorant fucking people
who don't have a fucking brain what is really going on.....i paid $3000 a month in taxes for well over 20 yrs and i cannot even get a fucking cortisone shot,,,,so fuck off you liars
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS A BIG LIE IN CANADA YOU ARE DENIED TIMELY DIAGNOSE TREATMENT IF IT IS AN AUTO ACCIDENT OR WORK INJURY; THIS IS SO THE INSURANCE COMPANY DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY ANY BENEFITS; WATCH THE U-TUBE VIDEO;
MEDICAL MALPRACTICE IN ALBERTA;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA If this is what you really believe - than you are just a person who has been well conditioned by the bullshit Republican propaganda. Ignorance is not an excuse, it is just sad. I feel sorry for you - really.
gabainvan92 1 month ago
@gabainvan92 ,,,, i am neither a republican or a democrat, or a liberal / ndp / conservative;
I am a truth-er, who believes everything happens for a reason, and it is clearly evident, that our health care system is sadly controlled by people who couldn't give a rats ass, whether you live or die; watch some medical tourism videos of Canadians who have been denied operations, and after 16 yrs find relief in India / Mexico / etc.
In Canada you need a lawyer to get medical care, just fkn great?
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@gabainvan92 Fixwcb has posted all this shit countless times. He's a poor little workman's comp case that tries to equate his case with the rest of the population that is not affected that way. I truly believe he has mental issues. Just by going by his posts, its pretty obvious.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
last week i went and got my mri /ct scan and the doctor was a fucking liar, he filed false report with workers comp to deny me medical care, so fuck you too Madhabber, Canada's all about denial of medical care, and i will post the PROOF;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
Canada's healthcare is a disaster, my doctor requested a cortisone shot for treatment in April 2011, and I am still waiting as of today Dec, 24, 2011;
Over 100 Doctors to diagnose a spinal injury;
Whenever there is significant injury and insurance interests, you will be denied timely diagnose / treatment;
Last week I said enough is enough and went and got my mri / CT scan and while copying them for medical tourism, a report and scan shows I have a malunited fractured spine that they hid from me;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA Oh look, the big fat lunatic liar is back.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 .....oh look the fucking liar is spewing lies again, go dig a hole and bury yourself, fkface;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA Do you really think that in cases involving insurance companies your health is not weighted against their costs? This is the reason why you need a "good" lawyer. Just having a lawyer is not enough. I had a case against an insurance company in Vancouver B.C that went on for six years and finally ended in 2010. I received good and prompt care regardless of intensity and specifications. But, I had an unbelievably great lawyer whose case-knowledge reached above average heights.
gabainvan92 1 month ago
@gabainvan92 ,,,, yea your so right, in Canada you need a lawyer to get medical care, without one, you will likely die; (PS) in April 2011, i was referred, for a cortisone shot, it is now December 28/ 2011 - I am still on the waiting list? How the fucking hell is this even possible? (now this is were it gets even more interesting) I went and got my mri / ct scan from the injury suffered in nov 2004 in which i received the tests in 2010, 5+ yrs after injury;
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA I am sorry if my point was not clearly made. You only have to have a lawyer to receive proper care when you are fighting with insurance companies. You had to wait prolonged periods of time for care because the insurance company "in concert with your family physician" did not put you on the urgent care list. Health care is not culpable here. It is the fault of your family physician and the insurance company you are fighting with. It is standard insurance practice to drive you mad!
gabainvan92 1 month ago
@gabainvan92
Edward Tchorzewski is the 72-year-old brother of former finance minister Edwin Tchorzewski, who died in 2008 of prostate cancer.
Edward was himself diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2009, but doctors in Saskatchewan told him surgery wasn't an option for him.
So Edward went to Minnesota's famed Mayo Clinic, where the doctors told him he had a week to live if surgery wasn't performed immediately.
The procedure turned out a success, it came at a significant cost to pensioner.
FIXWCBCANADA 1 month ago
@FIXWCBCANADA Wow, more anecdotes and stories eh asshole. Oh wait, they are the same ones you posted months ago. Wow, at least your consistent. Consistently fucking wrong.
BLAME WORKMAN"S COMP, not our UHC system.
Once you get that through your fat head, maybe you'll lose weight and get better.
Here's a piece of advice. Stop eating pizza, sitting at home watch gay porn all day long, and maybe you'll shed some of that fat!!!
MadHabber93 1 month ago
any self proclaimed video that claims it "gets it" is total bulshit.. Healthcare in Canada is a disaster!
toastm4n 1 month ago
@toastm4n According to whom??
MadHabber93 1 month ago
0:25 "Aboot"
Thisisquitealongname 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 Diane Gorsuch twicehad heartsurgery cancelled;shesuffered a fatal heart attack before her 3rdsurgery.In Great Britain,MavisSkeet had hercancer surgery cancelled four times beforeher cancer was determinedto have become inoperable.In Australia,eight-year-old Kyle Inglis has lost 50%hearing while waiting nearly 11 monthsfor an operation to remove a tumor in his ear. Kyle is one of over 1,000 children waiting over600 days for ear, nose &throat surgeryin Warnbro, Australia.read more.
circusboy90210 1 month ago
@circusboy90210 You are giving me 2 examples from other countries NOT Canada. In the U.S., 2 Million, let me repeat that number, 2 MILLION American cancer patients had to forgo needed medical treatment as they could no longer afford treatment. Not to mention, you are providing anecdotal evidence not real numbers like 2 Million people going without care AT ALL, let alone waiting for it.
You got your source from the free market cure, a highly biased,cherry picking source.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 not even. it's not free and you pay for more than you get in yours system vs just buying insurance.
circusboy90210 1 month ago
@circusboy90210 Where did I say its free?? Tell me then, how much is your insurance or is it employer sponsored? How much do you make per year, and what income taxes do you pay? Let's figure it then shall we.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 I don't chose to have insurance right now, I'm a gambler, however for me to have full coverage would be about $175 per month . I'm my own boss. what I make varies from season to year. I've never had to pay any taxes as my expenses are all deductible.
I'm so happy to have a clear headed rational discussion instead of a flame war, thank you for your civility.
however let's do this for some like my brother .
circusboy90210 1 month ago
@circusboy I'm sorry $175/month? I don't buy it. I believe we are the same age roughly, & I've gone on a number of U.S. insurance sites, and the cheapest I found was like $5 or $600/month with a $1000 to $2000 Deductible, $80 to $100 co-pays and 80/20 split on hospital bills.
So if you paid no taxes because you deducted all expenses, then wouldn't your expenses = your income? I have no problem being civil with civil people like you. Don't undertand the brother part.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 everything in operating a business is deductable if you have a pair of regular and a pair of work shoes the work shoes are deductible. when your deductions equal your tax liability you owe no taxes.
yes insurance for me is about $175 with a $500 deductible, last time I checked. belive it was blue cross blue shield. they sent me an offer and I declined. probably will sign up for the dental soon.
yes figure out on my brothers income , he works at a place of employment.
circusboy90210 1 month ago
@circusboy90210 I understand what you mean by deducting expenses. I'm in sales, and I deduct a lot too. But deductions is spending. If they are all business related expenses, which deducts your income to where you don't pay taxes, then that wouldn't leave a whole lot left.
That's what I thought you meant about your brother. Have to be another night though. Hitting the sack soon.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 leaves me plenty of money left, and also when I'm spending that money it's for stuff I need, you know the reason we make money? food while on the road making money is an expense , so is the hotel room, gas money etc. things I would not have to spend on at home like restaurants( plus i don't have to wash dishes or clean up) . when the governent pays that means they make decisions not you. he with the gold makes the rules.
circusboy90210 1 month ago
universal healthcare sucks!
ghosthunter5656 1 month ago
usa is about greed
Hillsillverr 1 month ago
there is no money for this in America. our government can't even balance it's own check book. how on earth could i sleep at night knowing an administration as financially unstable as the the one in power is also running my healthcare system? not to mention the population of this country far exceeds the Canadian population, you're talking about coverage in a whole different ball game. the validity of this video is flawed from the lack of understanding about my country from my neighbors up north.
bplumser 1 month ago
i'm sorry but i've never seen so much passive aggressiveness in my whole life!!!
Amunication 2 months ago
Australia doesn't have free health care either.
Amunication 2 months ago in playlist Canada & the British Commonwealth
I'm from Brazil and I'd like to know:
1 -Why is it that American health system doesn't cover everybody as the Canadian does, if they spend a bigger share of their GDP in health care than Canada?
2 - What do Canadians have to say about this critique: "health care in Canada is universal, but you have to wait months on a line for it". I see a lot of Americans arguing that.
Cheers!
luizcadu 2 months ago
@luizcadu I have never had to wait in emergency situations. The wait times are quite exagerated. If everyone in America had the same amount of money to pay for healthcare, there would be longer waits too. since a large portion of the population cannot afford medical expenses there are much shorter wait lines because less people are able to pay. it saddens me that the american right wing media will continue to rant and distort the facts while the average american suffers.
VeNgeaNce4444 2 months ago
@VeNgeaNce4444 I think you've said it all... if everybody had access to healthcare in the US the would also be waiting lines.
How does that single payer system work?
luizcadu 2 months ago
@luizcadu thank God it works in Canada because I would be declaring bankruptcy if I wasn't covered.
and that's a fact!
daveni2 2 months ago
@luizcadu I believe it's all about power, control and money. We've seen the same mind games in the former USSR... although the source is different, the message is the same; the people are spoon fed propaganda by these greedy corporations but don't seem to have any interest in asking questions. To challenge is considered unpatriotic... not to mention the truth is that the American people have allowed their lives to be nothing more than a commodity,stripped of their rights and even their humanity.
kris13119 2 months ago
@luizcadu the thing is that indeed you wait longer, but it will not bankrupt you. What is better, to wait to have your treatement or to not have it AT ALL?
bengacris 1 month ago
@bengacris It's funny how how right wingers complain about "having to pay for other people's health care", but they don't realize it's in their own self-interested not having to worry about money if you have a serious accident or a cancer (which might happen to anyone).
I'd like to know more about this single-payer system, moving health insurance companies out of the way seems like the way go for a cost effective health system. We don't even have a name for it in Portuguese!
luizcadu 1 month ago
@luizcadu Exactly! Right wingers don't want to pay for other people because they want to keep their money. But what will happen once THEY get an health problem and they don't have the money? Here in Canada you can't open your own hospital, it's run by the governement and IT WORKS. Some US citizens are just scared of the word "Social" because they still think that they are still fighting the USSR.
bengacris 1 month ago
@bengacris they have the money to pay for it because they are not paying 17% sales tax, dental is not covered. income tax is 30% for something you probably will never need. so in the end run you end up paying for more than you ever use. if you are too old you are not allowed certain procedures.
circusboy90210 1 month ago
@circusboy90210 Who is "they" in your reply?
bengacris 1 month ago
@circusboy90210 Boy, everything you wrote is incorrect. We don't pay 17% in sales taxes. For the average income Canada, we pay about 20% in income taxes. You add up what you spend on taxes, plus premiums, plus deductibles, plus co-pays,etc. (that we pay none of), YOU end up paying WAY more than us. And that's for those WITH insurance. And we NEVER are not allowed a procedure based on age, unless the doc feels you would die on the operating table. Get your facts straight!!!
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93 I lived there 3 years travelling all over, probablly seen more of your own nation than you have. yes some places there do have 17% sales tax pst +gst.yes people are denied a procedure based on age and quality of remaining life.no americans do not end up paying more. if canada was so much better for medicene I would have become a citizen when I had the chance. premiums plus co pays for most procedures if you need one is way less than 29% tax brackets on a mere 100k .so no not free.
circusboy90210 1 month ago
@circusboy90210 Spare me your 3 years. I've been here 42 years, work in the Pharma industry and travel extensively throughout Canada for years. Those being hospitals throughout Canada. There is NO province that pays 17% pst + gst. Gst is now 5%. There is no province that has a 12% sales tax.
And NO PEOPLE ARE NOT DENIED A PROCEDURE based on age.
Yes, the average American will pay more in premiums, deductibles, copays + there income taxes. Its not even close.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
Thank God for Tommy Douglas and his hard work in getting us, Canadians the
Healthcare we know and Love!!!!!
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elfkind1 2 months ago
the canadian system is great but then again, canada is a country of about 20 million. america has 300 million people plus who knows how many mexicans. we cant take care of everybody. instead of universal healthcare, we should have a public option where you have the choice between good expensive private insurance and decent free public insurance
KennyBare 3 months ago
@KennyBare 36.5 million....
douche wagon :p
ChazRufiange 3 months ago
@KennyBare we also have a bigger land mass
ChazRufiange 3 months ago
@KennyBare Yes, the whole public option is good but a socialised system CAN work in America... well maybe it should have been established 50 years ago to get the base started...
More people=More tax base.. Population isn't much of a factor.
rangergxi 3 months ago
@rangergxi -explain..I mean 47% here didn't pay income taxes. This plan digs at the core of American values-freedom. Hypothetically...would you feel free if 50% more was taken out of your paycheck, and furthermore what's stopping 90% from being taken out? To add one more concept...the American government is running rampant in fascism...whats to stop the proposed healthcare system from being a fascist giant wrapped in a socialist cloak?
eternalperchedbird 2 months ago
@eternalperchedbird "To add one more concept...the American government is running rampant in fascism." Wow, you're not drinking much of the Koolaide. Care to share how you've suddenly become a fascist state?
MadHabber93 2 months ago
@MadHabber93 -To stick to the topic all I'm saying is that the obama nationalized health care system wouldn't work here-it's just another extension of fascism that appears to be socialism at first glance. To explain why America is a fascist country would take alot of my time to explain.
eternalperchedbird 2 months ago
@eternalperchedbird fair enough, but Obama isn't nationalizing your healthcare. If anything, he's expanding the size and power of private insurance
MadHabber93 2 months ago
@eternalperchedbird I don't think that this video is suggesting that if it works in Canada it will work in the USA. They are just complaining about the propaganda in the USA about how poorly the system works in Canada. We (canadians) get frustrated when we hear obviously lies in your media which is pretty much our media too, anyone with cable. Personally i would be bankrupt and possibly on the streets if it wasn't for our healthcare system as well as my mother who had heart surgery.
daveni2 2 months ago
@KennyBare
Pffff... The US is fucked up =D The Netherlands FTW!
gangstervural 2 months ago
@KennyBare 30,000,000 btw and a tax base to match. USA 300,000,000 ten times the people and potentially 10 times the tax base. I don't think an illegal is covered in Canada as they shouldn't be in the us. Healthcare is covered at the provincial level like it could be at the state level there. Face it as long as political campaigns in the us are funded by corporations like insurance companies, you won't see in the us what we have here. bad health in the US is BIG Business.
daveni2 2 months ago
@daveni2 Unions also give politicians huge quantities of money. <.<
rangergxi 2 months ago
"As a Canadian whose always had health care, I just don't get it." That about sums it up.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
"I didn't pay anything!" - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You Pay Taxes dummies. The U.S. has the worst option, but have an opportunity to have the best, and that is a free market health care system. Catastrophic health insurance is the ONLY type of insurance that makes any sense, the only reason we have health insurance is because of a corrupt system. Health care is a personal responsibility and the costs should never be socialized by FORCE, which is the only thing that goverment is.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@DCUPtoejuice That 'free' market system is resulting in the U.S. paying far, far more than the rest of the world without producing better health outcomes.
Are roads, militry, police, a personal responsibility? Look at Somalia, they have a free market system is just about everything, how is that working out for them?
And we are well aware we pay taxes for our care, but we NEVER have to worry how to pay a bill, never have to worry about losing our job and our coverage with it. Ever.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 WE DO NOT HAVE A FREE MARKET
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 why don't you just apply the same principle to everything? Why not? There are no downsides to having government take over an industry? Wow, what a genius solution!
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@DCUPtoejuice Why not everywhere? I've heard that argument before. The quesiton is, why not healthcare? That's because you don't see it as a human right, when I do, as well as the rest of the free world. I have also heard the free market argument for healthcare would bring prices down in the U.S. 2 things, I don't believe it would just out of greed. Most docs & hospitals complain about not enough money now in the U.S. And healthcare is not like buying a pair of jeans of a shelf. contd.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
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DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 well we sure do disagree. I suppose there is a human right to brush one's teeth as well. Rights protect your personal property and body from invasion by others. Your idea of rights is to take from all by force to pay for what you think all should have. Greed LOL - you guys love that word. It is exactly like many commodities that require service and are handled very well by the free market - which by the way simply means protecting individual RIGHTS - not claims on others.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@DCUPtoejuice Your comparing brushing teeth to healthcare? Give me a break. Sorry, but could I borrow 75 grand to I can buy some toothpaste?
And I love that word you throw out....Force. If you don't like taxes either move to Saudi Arabia or Somolia. They don't pay taxes there either. But check your 'individual RIGHTS' at the door.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@DCUPtoejuice You said that taxes for roads, military, police are ok because they servie the community. And good and accessible healthcare doesn't serve the community? If people have to leave work due to illness, which they can't pay to treat, then the community just lost a valuable tax payer. It mushrooms into more and more. Universal Insurance spreads the risk to everyone, thereby lowering premiums through taxes and allowing EVERYONE access to care without cost being a barrier.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 The U.S. health care market has been distorted by HMO's that were mandated by the government. A free market system does not allow corporations to collude with government. In a free market the costs would drop and the quality of care would advance so quickly that people in countries with socialized medicine would bypass their "free" care to come to the free market system for the best care.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@DCUPtoejuice Secondly, healthcare costs are already very expensive in the U.S. (other countries too but not nearly as much), so let's say costs and prices dropped by half. Half of unaffordable for millions of Americans is still unaffordable.
And you are offering opinion that healthcare in the U.S. is the best. Its a common myth that many Americans like you believe that you somehow have a monopoly on great, quality healthcare. And its not just how good but how accessible.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
You make the point that the military, police, etc is socialized. True, but those are things that serve the community, not individuals per se. We have CDC for that purpose. In addition, your argument opens the door for anything and everything to be socialized.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 On your last point, I agree with in that catastrophic health insurance is a good idea, but that doesn't need to be government run either. We do have bankruptcy laws that allow people to escape debt and we also have charitable organizations. The socialized system turns that charity into force, which is immoral and takes the money that could otherwise be voluntarily shared.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@DCUPtoejuice Catastrophic insurance would only come into play for deathly, emergency conditons. There are millions of Americans with cancer, auto immune disease, chronic illness that catastrophic insurance would NOT cover. What do they do then when they can't work because of their illness, so they can't pay and still don't qualify for medicaide? Let them suffer and die?
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@DCUPtoejuice Again, what about taxes for military, roads, infrastructure, making the country run. Is that immoral? Are all taxes immoral then? That seems to be your position.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 Depends on the actions of the government.
rangergxi 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 Taxes are just fine with me so long as they are constitutional, and that means limited to the proper role of the Federal government. If you want a mandate move to Massachusetts instead of trying to convert the rest of us into your nanny state.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@DCUPtoejuice Don't need to move to Mass. as I'm Canadian. We actually care about our countrymen. Again, if taxes is immoral and taking from someone with force, then move to Somalia.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 I guess you are the only one who cares about people because you force others to pay for your charity.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@DCUPtoejuice Dude, I'm healthy and a top wage earner in my country. Like I said, I actually care about my countrymen. You hide behind bullshit 'the constitution" that was written when healthcare consisted of potions and lotions. ALong with bullshit sayings like 'taken by force'. Careful, your shit is really starting to pile up now.
Yeah, it makes far more sense to fund a war that cost American lives for NOTHING, then fund a system that actually SAVES American lives.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 standard response. You don't know what the constution is designed to do and you don't understand what government is.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@DCUPtoejuice Yeah, I have nooooooo clue what gov't is designed to do. You are a free market Libertarian by the sounds of it. I know exactly how you would like gov't to be. To bad realities don't mesh well with those desires of yours.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
and it stagers the imaginations republican politicians actualy argue to deny their own citizens health care.
dsspike51 3 months ago
@dsspike51 you mean health insurance. You can get care in the U.S. through several means 1. pay for it 2. get insurance 3. charity In socialized medicine, you are taxed by force to pay for health care for everyone - it isn't free, the costs are just socialized. I would rather take responsibility for my own life and if I can't get care through any of the 3 options I listed above then I guess my time is up, but forcing others to pay for me is immoral, it is only moral if it is done freely.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
@DCUPtoejuice I live the immoral arguement. What a crock. Its immoral to stand by and let millions of Americans forgo going to a doctor or getting a needed procedure done because they can't afford it. Its immoral to watch thousands of Americans sell their home or go bankrupt just to get care. Its immoral to watch your countrymen DIE because they delayed treatment for too long because of cost.
So, in your mind, free market healthcare like you have it right & the rest of the world is wrong.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 the crock is that you think it is moral to take from someone by force to give to others. You are free to help the needy and so are doctors.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
As a Canadian I can say that I have access to any doctor and specialist or hospital I want. I can tell you that in Canada you can even have abortion for free, just show your health card.
Yes there are wait times but it largely depands on the doctor and their booking practices (if you have appt) or how busy is the hospital (when you go in to emergency).
I can tell you that my daughter sees a specialist regularly and the wait time is 5-10 minutes. Her paediatrician (10-15 minutes).
agaflyby 3 months ago
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@MadHabber93 " SIck kids hospital in Toronto. One of THE best pediatric hospitals on the planet. "
stop lying.
- 24 of the top 30 hospitals in the world are in the US. ( canadas not in the top 30ty )
- 14 of the top 31-60 hospitals in the world are in the US
38 of the top 60 hospitals are in the US ( canada only shows up once #57 )
mrfwest 3 months ago
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@MadHabber93 wrong agian...... murder rate in the US is about 5% apposed to 1.5 % in canada.
traffic death in US is about 12 % apposed to 9% in canada.
most murder in the US is 15-24 and most diving deaths in the US is 16-24 ( canadas is about 18-24 )
4 times the ages variable in murder in the US and 2 times for car deaths..... thats almost a 4% variables and a two year age difference for car deaths
life expectancy in canada 81
life expectancy in USA 79.9
mrfwest 3 months ago
4:35 .......what the hell IS a Co-Pay? Anyone here that can educate me on that?
DarthBismarck 3 months ago
Canada has more debt per GDP than America, most of it coming from socialized healthcare. America can't afford to give people free healthcare and give the middle class an even bigger burden.
leedaomillz 3 months ago
@leedaomillz Canada's debt to GDP ratio is 1/3 of that of the U.S. In fact, Canada has the lowest debt to GDP ratio in the G8. In addition, our healthcare makes up only about 11% of our GDP spending, which covers everyone. The U.S. spends 16% and does not.
Beartit69 3 months ago
I love the stupid fucking excuse... Well all the other western countries have it... Shut the fuck up. Yes, i want to be healthy, BUT I WILL MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS WITH MY OWN MONEY. AND I will give my money away to whom I see most needs it, not the government. America is the land of opportunity NOT entitlement... so fuck off.
drshlotzkin 3 months ago
@drshlotzkin that's the problem right here, americans are so afraid of their governement lol.
bengacris 3 months ago
Give it another decade or two, we will see where these people are in the future.
drshlotzkin 3 months ago
@drshlotzkin Where will they be in two decades?? Alive with no medical debt.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@MadHabber93
Opps, I meant the system.
drshlotzkin 3 months ago
@drshlotzkin Well, our system's been around for nearly 5 decades, so I'm willing to bet...still around.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
FUCK YOU CANADIANS YOU CAN SUCK MY AMERICAN DICK!!EYYYY
LanHo1 3 months ago
@LanHo1 Its 'eh' dipshit.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
I really don't understand people of USA. They don't mind the fact that their government is spending HUGE amounts of money for military(to kill people) but they are against using money to fund public healthcare system and thus saving lives and improving quality of life in-general.
m3850d 3 months ago
As a Canadian (lived there for 15 years, left 2 years ago for Asia), I can tell you that Canadian health care system is SHIT.
It's total garbage, I always went to Buffalo medical group and to Rochester center to avoid waiting in these insane lines.
There are no professional doctors, those who are good are all in USA, they go to the US of-course. The queues are never ending, I knew a bunch of people who ended up dead just because of line ups.
romanmir01 3 months ago
@romanmir01 Two words. HORSE SHIT!!!!
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 Canadian health care is horse shit.
romanmir01 3 months ago
@romanmir01 Too bad 85% of real Canadians say otherwise. Spare use with your lies and anecdotes.