i wouldn't, when I was originally introduced to this method by Jason Falla I was told to have my support hand about where it would be if holding a handgun. moving my hand out further would blade me out some and also lock my arm out- losing muscular support and also making it more tiring
how's the sound signature and recoil with that brake? Does it have more recoil than a traditional brake like a battlecomp or pws fsc556? Is it noticably less noisy to the shooter than those brakes?
I dont mind stretching my arms out like that when shooting pistols. But with the added weight of a rufle, i tend to just tuck my arms more. I'll practice more like this guy when i get a chance
Thanks for your vids. I have seen you use different DD rifles. I think this one is a V5 mid length and the other I have seen you use is the V1 Carbine. I am trying to decide soon on which of the DD rifles I should get if the 2 I just mentioned. Since it appears that you have shot both, what would you recommend?
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@MichaelBarnes just saying for the sake of your fellow shooters on the range it would be in your best interest to safety your weapons so you don't have some sort of accidental discharge.
without a doubt- i don't run PC's or armor carriers as much anymore, but I have a few videos up with me shooting on either spectrum when it comes to carriers- from bulky to minimalist
Just got my TRX Extreme 13" in the mail the other day. Really, really nice handguard! So slim and lightweight. Now wish I had the rest of the rifle to put it on =]
it's comfortable for me and helps me shoot better- each person is built differently so what works for me may not work for you. use whatever works best for you
many people talked about this position. One such person was chris costa, stating that if you fully extend your arm, you will feel a sense of stability while firing and when you bring the rifle up to sights, you can fine tune your aiming with little adjustments of just slightly turning your extended hand. Some people find this position comfortable, but others might find it very unorthodox compared to the style they normally use.
i left my unloaded rifle laying downrange, and someone didn't see it when they drove down there to set up targets. i go back down there and find it pressed about an inch in the dirt with tire tracks going over it
@MichaelBarnes i have no idea what sound library your sounds are in I was just wondering why you did that. I know what a gun sounds like and that just sounds like you edited over it with some other noise. Not putting your video down though, good stuff.
it's the actual sounds, i've just messed with the EQ and remixed it. i do it so my videos feel different from others, plus i enjoy sound mixing and design
Real nice video man. I am wondering what is the belt setup you are running. I just built my newest AR and am looking to get one of those Vickers slings and a belt or chest rig.
I see you're wearing jeans!? Don't you find them uncomfortable for "work" like this (holster and other equipment on your legs)? Just noticed it here, after seeing some german police force (SEK) wearing them @ work just two weeks ago when a cop was killed and they were deployed in the region.
@danp173 coming from the kid who lives in the UK. have u ever held a real gun? i guessing you play to many call of duty games. just about every tactical carbine class will teach you something similar to his stance. they teach those stances because they work. dont post things because your jealous that america gets to keep its guns while you sit at home with your airsoft toys.
@aluisious whatever dude the main point of me posting that response was to tell the kid that he cant tell people how to handle there guns when he cant even own one in his nation. i dont like posting mean things but it pissed me off when i saw that. i dont really care what u think a proper stance is, thats why we live in america, so we can say and do things freely
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@MrUSA96 i have shot a real gun before a l98 assault rifle and .22 rile at a range , so in no way am i jealous he just looks like a retard when firing that thing
@danp173 even if that is true, this guy has much more trigger time than you will ever have. the point of me replying was not to debate his stance, i posted that because you cant tell people how to handle there guns when you have near no experiance behind a AR or any other rifle. we all have or ways of shooting and what works best for us, but dont say things that make u look stupid.
since when has standing unsupported been considered a fancy stance? if you're talking about the rifle grip you can get in touch with larry vickers, pat mcnamara, brian searcy, kyle lamb, jason falla, jd potynsky, kyle defoor, mike pannone, etc and ask how their experiences in combat affected why they practice and preach a similar rifle support grip.
i'm not sure what unit you served with- maybe you have more combat experience and know more than them, but i doubt many do
The amusing thing is that I would not be all too surprised if he took on every single dealer in the city - with his choice of fighting rifle, sidearm, and a stack of magazines - and won.
I also find it amusing that you actually replied. Resorting to ad hominem that is neither true or relevant is your next best bet, I suppose, to actually addressing the point and arguing competently; such is the 'hard' life of the dealer, I suppose. I suppose you would be the type to shoot this woman who would stand up to your fruitless big-man posturing ... in Rio de Janeiro, no?
The sir in this video has more skill with a weapon in his little finger than all the dealers in Rio.
you're obviously a little 12 years old kid haha... it doesn't matter if he has skills in KILLING paper/steel targets... a real combat scneario is WAYYY different, it doesn't matter if the drug dealers don't practice that much... IT DOESN't mean that he would do SHIT in the favelas... are u retarded? seriously, this guy would be killed in 2 minutes inside a favela, period. if u don't believe on me, go do some research.
so you're apart of the rio de janeiro police force? i personally don't think you are and are just posturing. if you are get with your superiors and organize any reputable training company (I listed off plenty of good instructors already) to come out and run through their curriculum
in the meantime you may want to work on your tact when conducting a dialogue since you come of as a bit immature
no, that's why i listed off people who have. maybe that's the issue here is that i'm bringing up examples of SOF personnel and you're comparing them to baseline police. they have a tough job and it's an inspiration to see them rocking through it, but i wouldn't look to them weapons manipulations training
i didn't like how he was conducting himself so i wasn't interested in what he had to say. if i hurt his feelings, sorry but i don't care much for name calling and posturing
I - again - find it amusing to note that the first one to bring up the subject of immaturity as an argument (ZzRvXzZ with his 'teen' comment, you with your accusation that blocking is somehow immature in this situation) is usually the one immature.
I also find it amusing that those who attack Michael have uploaded vids of video game play, while Michael has handled and is skilled with a large variety of weapons platforms and has videos to prove himself such.
@b4sshunt3rgg Coming from someone who doesn't seem to quite grasp what the word "fallacy" actually means, it's a massive laugh seeing you accuse someone of trying to look smart.
I'd like to see him invading the dirty slums you live in, too; it would be an interesting exercise in seeing what a skilled man with a good rifle can accomplish.
"I'd like to see him invading the dirty slums you live in, too; it would be an interesting exercise in seeing what a skilled man with a good rifle can accomplish."
nice one, this one made me laugh, especially coming from a little teenager with an anime avatar...
go look for firefights in rio favelas, and see what is "real technique"
shooting papers don't make you a good soldier....
being in hell and surviving it, is what makes you a soldier.
@b4sshunt3rgg I don't need to "attempt"; the fact that you keep trying to point it out makes its own point.
Secondly: being proficient with a firearm is a form of preparing for war. You are ignoring and failing to address my arguments and then accusing me of having none.
Thirdly: I have drawn down on someone, i.e. almost having been in a firefight.
Fourthly, if you believe that less skill with a weapon means more survivability in a firefight, I am not sure what to tell you.
@b4sshunt3rgg "Ms.", if you must sling around insults and pretend you are winning.
You may have never said that having less skill means more survivability, but you sure are implying it what with your pointless ridicule of someone with actual skill with firearms handling.
Yes, I would shit my pants in the middle of that for two reasons: one being that there are no working toilets in that shithole you call a home and second that I am not possessed of nor trained with a fighting rifle.
congratilations! now you are being a hypocrite! Hahaha it's great to see little children showing their true form when they face the truth...
well, if you aren't training with a fighting rifle, and never have been throught HELL since you were a kid, maybe you should stick to your animes and stop saying stupid shit like "he'd probably kick the drug dealers asses"
call me next time you get into a firefight with drug dealers, and then we can argue about fighting techniques
@b4sshunt3rgg I'm trained and proficient with a .45 calibre pistol and can recognize skill with a fighting rifle when I see it.
For me, that is enough.
If I ever decide to take a visit to your shithole - which I will not, because it is a shithole - I will seek as much training and experience as the man in this video beforehand.
@SayokoHatsuya hahahahaha... trained and proficient with a .45
no, you aren't
a person can only say that she is proficient with a firearm once she gets into a firefight and comes out alive, and with atleast 1 dead enemy body on the ground...
as i said.
shooting papers help...
but the feeling of 7.62 rounds splashing 1 meters from your head, you will never get in any paper shooting training
@b4sshunt3rgg I am trained and proficient with a .45 in the sense that, under severe pressure, I have presented my sidearm and had my sights on the center mass of a dangerously close armed target in what feels like instantly from a concealed retention holster, and at speed I am capable of keeping my shots in a five or six inch circle on paper at twenty feet.
I have not yet been under any form of return fire, and I hope I never will.
@b4sshunt3rgg Ah. A Brazilian 4chan lurker. The completely substanceness style of "argument" - if it can validly be called that - was a decent hint, and this simply confirms it.
I mean, I could attribute it to absolutely impossible obtuseness, but I might either be insulting 4chan or giving them too much credit...
hahaha you're such a hypocrite dude! you're complaining about my arguments... and you're doing the same thing!! you're just throwing a bunch of childish insults in hope that you will get me mad... hahahahah
and why are u stalking me? wanna chat? if u want to chat. give me any adress, or any kind of adress where i can chat with u... it seems that you're a sad guy.. :/
@b4sshunt3rgg >dude! you're complaining about my arguments... and you're doing the same thing!!
I am doing the former because you are not actually arguing, and I am doing the same because it amuses me, is in addition to actual valid arguments, and because it makes you project as furiously as possible.
As for being 'sad', I am a woman happily married to a woman.
@M4DPWN3R I'm actually countertrolling some poor Brazilian idiot, but the first was a suspicion, the second is true, and the third is because it's convenient. Trolls don't generally use facts and logic, but my use of it was apparently enough to troll the dick out of him enough to block me.
@M4DPWN3R He was waving the drug dealer's "hardness" around like a penis extension and talking shit about the video like he knew something - did you actually follow the comment thread at all? - and presented his own "street cred" as some sort of penis extension. 'Bawww I grew up in x town, it's so hard around here he wouldn't survive a second'.
He essentially asked for any "cred" I had, and I truthfully gave the only experiences/skills I have, which is not very much but enough for me.
@M4DPWN3R If anything, I "whiteknighted" Mr. Barnes a bit while managing to induce incredible levels of mad in the Brazilians while doing nothing but being evenhanded and stating only truths.
I actually /knew/ he was going to end up dropping out on the "hurr hurr ur a woman ur too dum" line because I was railing him that hard, hence why I brought it up in the first place.
@M4DPWN3R I am not from "anywhere" except from where I'm born; otherwise, I visit /k/ occasionally to see how shitty it is, but what the hell you mean by "legit" I will not even attempt to question.
You could answer. I'm not sure how precisely I became an actual troll because I defended someone with actual skill and managed to have a little fun with it, but okay.
@SayokoHatsuya /watch?v=7IEOtvupVnE Jason Falla. Former Australian SAS. Has more shoots under his belt than M4DPWN3R, ZzRvXzZ, and b4sshunt3rgg have had collective Brazilian fap sessions. Is located in the suggested video section. USES THE FANCY STANCE.
/thread, as it were.
Tangentially, one must wonder how many of our resident drug dealers actually knew what a favela was prior to MW2's release.
@b4sshunt3rgg I'm obviously not one to talk about combat experience since I don't have any, but the video you posted shows large disorganization and dudes with guns and optics just shooting. AND they had some of the poorest technique from all shooting classes I've been to and seen. AND they were prone (wrong prone stance may I add) for half the video. AND most were on fully automatic, shooting from corners, without the gun supported. Like I said, I have no experience, but your video is some shit
@MichaelBarnes Don't listen to this guy! He obviously has no idea about gun control and effective firing stances. You have the best rife and handgun technique possible.
If you are referring to the foregrip, you are a doofus. That extended grip has been around since Costa was in diapers. At LEAST since the Rhodesian War, I'm sure even before that.
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@dookie0311 Bullshit. That grip is a Magpul-created marketing technique based around unnecessary aftermarket "upgrades" to an already-solid platform. It's also cumbersome and has ZERO real-world application.
Call me wrong, go on and do it. And I'll stand right alongside you, putting every single round in the tenring while you stand there, derping around with your silly-ass Magpul toys.
@alphajude95 well there are two types of holding guns so for example for the assault rifles, i dont know the name but the way he holds it, there is more advantage because.........just look at redwolfairsoft on how to hold your gun or something like that
no doubt shooting further distance targets is fun and challenging, but the close up stuff can be made more challenging as well by increasing your cadence of fire, decreasing target zone size, or decreasing time allowed during serials. for example if you're shooting as fast as you can but none of your shots are outside of the A zone,then you probably could be shooting faster- work on trigger control
@MichaelBarnes plus if you're training for combat shooting, most engagments on the "street" happen within 10 feet, so shooting at that distance is fine, same goes for in-house defense, although room clearing is extremely challenging. If you can evoid firing inside in a combat situation, I'd pick that instead of going in. since it isn't anything like you see at the cop shows, if you use there techniques you'd be dead real quick.
Yeah, can't send comments with the right connotation. I don't doubt your much faster, just one shooter trying to help another shooter. I still learn something new every time I train.
You may want to consider re-reading my statements. I don't feel like getting into a pointless degree war, but I have taken many courses and have also taught some - I am not an armchair warrior. You also may want to consider re-evaluating your attitude and try taking a critique with a grain of salt.
i'm not trying to get into any war, i'm sorry if i'm coming off as abrasive- i don't like typing responses since they usually feel very impersonal. you're right i am slow in this video, i'm just letting you know this isn't me running full speed. i appreciate the feedback
@MichaelBarnes And maybe what this "non-armchair warrior" fails to understand is that most firefights in the military happen at an average of 25 yards. Most pistol fights average in under seven feet. Training at long distances is ok, but it is mostly target practice as I see it.
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While your fanboy-ness style of Magpul and Chris Costa is mighty large, try adopting their style with the comfort of your own. You seem very uncomfortable and, well...slow; that is, slower than what your capable of. He is a good teacher but I bet if you asked him he would tell you the same. Keep on shootin, you look well versed :)
Your right, ALWAYS room for improvement. Just commenting on that you look uncomfortable. It's just that I've shot with many guys that feel like Chris Costa is god of the tactical world and would probably grow a beard like him if they could. In the end they are worse off when than before. Not diggin at Chris, his methods are good and he is good at his methods. Just remember, there are many rifles and that ones YOURS.
looks can be deceiving i suppose. i don't really care too much how you feel about costa, i've never trained or shot with him so i'm not sure why you're bringing him up
As I stated before, you shoot and move like him. I don't know if you trained with him or not and I don't really care. POINT BEING - your stiffness is slow, you have more potential.
you may want to consider getting taking some courses outside of magpul. i'm moving slow because i'm not under a clock, if i wanted to show off my splits during a transition i would make a video showing off my splits. main priority of the video is showing off the rifle as stated in the title.
Don't forget to put the safety on when you transition. You can see that it is off on one of those transitions.Your trigger could catch on a magazine and boom your foot is gone.
i don't follow that school of thought since the only reason why i'm transition to the handgun is because the gun is empty or has malfunctioned and is incapable of being fired. otherwise yes when the stock comes off my face safety comes on
That is a valid point, but the issue is cost vs benefit. It takes no extra time to put the safety on during the transition, especially if you have an ambi safety. The benefit is automatically always putting the safety on so that one day you don't screw it up and let a ready to fire rifle hang. Muscle memory works best when the brain isn't involved. There are other types of transitions that involve letting a working rifle hang, like having to carry something. It is best to KISS.
i found it does add extra time,which is another reason why i avoid it. it's not much time,but it's time i'd rather not lose.i really doubt i'd accidentally transition with a hot gun since i don't game these transitions- i really don't like using a handgun if i have to when i have a operational rifle strapped to me. for other transitions(like slinging the rifle)that happen after my followthrough the safety is on,since flipping the selector on safe is part of my followthrough
i was taught modern iso as having your elbows pointed outward: so when the gun recoils the bend in your elbows would have the gun go straight back. with elbows pointed downward the gun would recoil upward.
left arm is slightly higher since my left hand is able to get higher on the gun than the right since it's limited by the tang of the pistol
what kind of battle belt?
snafuedem 6 days ago
how do you like that troy muzzle brake?
darthcollosus 1 week ago
you have hitches in your pistol draw. clean it up to one fluid motion
grande0311 1 week ago
@grande0311
that's me going through the motions slower than normal, appreciate the feedback
MichaelBarnes 1 week ago
play COD much ; }
Rockysmith1296 1 week ago
I like what you did there where you maximised your sight radius as much as you could with the extended rails.
If your rails were longer would you push your support hand our furthur or is that the maximum distance for you to be comfortable with?
jimothy183 2 weeks ago
@jimothy183
i wouldn't, when I was originally introduced to this method by Jason Falla I was told to have my support hand about where it would be if holding a handgun. moving my hand out further would blade me out some and also lock my arm out- losing muscular support and also making it more tiring
MichaelBarnes 1 week ago
how's the sound signature and recoil with that brake? Does it have more recoil than a traditional brake like a battlecomp or pws fsc556? Is it noticably less noisy to the shooter than those brakes?
808Arsenal 2 weeks ago
@808Arsenal
it has increased recoil straight back, and is a lot nicer for guys shooting on either side. don't notice much sound difference
MichaelBarnes 1 week ago
That rifle is a watered down version of GOD
scuds03 2 weeks ago
ever have any accidents while shooting?
CoDCrazy007 3 weeks ago
Looks like some Timothy McGhey watched the art of tactical carbine...
pirrracy 3 weeks ago
Dude you look like a robot when shooting do you have some auto aiming feauture built inside of you
Dietdrshasta 3 weeks ago
I dont mind stretching my arms out like that when shooting pistols. But with the added weight of a rufle, i tend to just tuck my arms more. I'll practice more like this guy when i get a chance
docjekyll2002 3 weeks ago
Thanks for your vids. I have seen you use different DD rifles. I think this one is a V5 mid length and the other I have seen you use is the V1 Carbine. I am trying to decide soon on which of the DD rifles I should get if the 2 I just mentioned. Since it appears that you have shot both, what would you recommend?
BBQBOY76 1 month ago
@BBQBOY76
the V5, also take a look at the V7- same thing but with a tube rail like the Troy one I'm running in this video
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@MichaelBarnes Please for the love of god next time this is done, safety the weapon before transitioning to a sidearm. Thank you.
combatjunkie1 1 week ago
@combatjunkie1
no
MichaelBarnes 1 week ago
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@MichaelBarnes just saying for the sake of your fellow shooters on the range it would be in your best interest to safety your weapons so you don't have some sort of accidental discharge.
combatjunkie1 1 week ago
@combatjunkie1
no
MichaelBarnes 1 week ago
its a lot easier without plates. Put some kit on and then ill have some respect
isoprepable 2 months ago
@isoprepable
without a doubt- i don't run PC's or armor carriers as much anymore, but I have a few videos up with me shooting on either spectrum when it comes to carriers- from bulky to minimalist
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what recording device did you use? 556 sounds way more powerful than an average bang sound.
AtlantiXYL 2 months ago
What hearing protection were you using?
97VobraOwner 2 months ago
why u bent over so much
ysujy10 2 months ago
@ysujy10
Can you not read his comments?
He explains why.
Breakneckhydra1 2 months ago
@ysujy10 Cause it's good technique. Not like you chicken wings.
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Why are your sights flipped up? Do you like the co-witness?
FiveTwoSevenTHR 2 months ago
@FiveTwoSevenTHR
yea, i prefer running irons up- i've been switching my rifles over to LMT BUIS since I don't really need folding. i use a lower 1/3 cowitness
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Just got my TRX Extreme 13" in the mail the other day. Really, really nice handguard! So slim and lightweight. Now wish I had the rest of the rifle to put it on =]
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the position you hold the ar looks uncomfortable.
LiberalsArePigs 2 months ago
@LiberalsArePigs
it's comfortable for me and helps me shoot better- each person is built differently so what works for me may not work for you. use whatever works best for you
MichaelBarnes 2 months ago 4
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many people talked about this position. One such person was chris costa, stating that if you fully extend your arm, you will feel a sense of stability while firing and when you bring the rifle up to sights, you can fine tune your aiming with little adjustments of just slightly turning your extended hand. Some people find this position comfortable, but others might find it very unorthodox compared to the style they normally use.
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LiberalsArePigs 2 months ago
"A few minutes before this was filmed, the rifle was ran over with a fairly large truck. Still works."
Want to expound on that?
WillSnipe4Tacos 2 months ago
@WillSnipe4Tacos
i left my unloaded rifle laying downrange, and someone didn't see it when they drove down there to set up targets. i go back down there and find it pressed about an inch in the dirt with tire tracks going over it
MichaelBarnes 2 months ago
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why do you have that canned gun shot sound in all of your videos?
just asking
YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 2 months ago
@YOWHATTHEHELLUP71
what sound library are you finding my sounds in, somebody should be paying me for using my recordings
MichaelBarnes 2 months ago
@MichaelBarnes i have no idea what sound library your sounds are in I was just wondering why you did that. I know what a gun sounds like and that just sounds like you edited over it with some other noise. Not putting your video down though, good stuff.
YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 2 months ago
@YOWHATTHEHELLUP71
it's the actual sounds, i've just messed with the EQ and remixed it. i do it so my videos feel different from others, plus i enjoy sound mixing and design
MichaelBarnes 2 months ago
@MichaelBarnes thats cool, what software do you use?
YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 2 months ago
Real nice video man. I am wondering what is the belt setup you are running. I just built my newest AR and am looking to get one of those Vickers slings and a belt or chest rig.
jamesbern 2 months ago
@jamesbern
thanks. it's a us grunt gear infidel warbelt.
if you're looking for a cheaper alternative, most of the time I just wear a regular belt and slip on two or three itw fast mags
MichaelBarnes 2 months ago
great technique man!
ElmortoSen 2 months ago
Superb recoil control and form. Good job.
TheForestKan 2 months ago
welcome to the internet, where any 13 year old with a laptop can criticize anyone for anything.
D7Industries 3 months ago
Hey Brother, how do you like that TRX?
cory07ink 3 months ago
@cory07ink
great rail, really like these tube rails- although this rifle I replaced the 13" for the 15"
MichaelBarnes 2 months ago
@MichaelBarnes bet that looks amazing.
cory07ink 2 months ago
i want to try your stance next time im at the range, it looks awkward but really effective. cheers bro!
Th3Mavr1ck 3 months ago
doesn't the slide of the Glock rub against your thumb like that?
Umimugo 3 months ago
I see you're wearing jeans!? Don't you find them uncomfortable for "work" like this (holster and other equipment on your legs)? Just noticed it here, after seeing some german police force (SEK) wearing them @ work just two weeks ago when a cop was killed and they were deployed in the region.
OM615 3 months ago
you hold your rifle like a girl
TRIGGATODD 3 months ago
@TRIGGATODD I see you're unfamilar with that shooting style. It IS a combat stance.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 3 months ago
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Soddykins 3 months ago
Nice transitions!
ffryan 3 months ago
Solid as an oak tree. Excellent form.
DngerousRadical 3 months ago 18
sounds like a fuckin dragon every time u pull the trigger, sweet rifle, really lovin the channel!
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Soddykins 3 months ago
omg that sounds fuckin amazinggggggg. i am really diggin the rail system.
A1rsoftAFICIONADO68 3 months ago
Don't hate on this but. I think the gun shots sounds like a sound effects would.
Crazygamer154 3 months ago
u look like such a retard when using that m4
danp173 3 months ago
@danp173 coming from the kid who lives in the UK. have u ever held a real gun? i guessing you play to many call of duty games. just about every tactical carbine class will teach you something similar to his stance. they teach those stances because they work. dont post things because your jealous that america gets to keep its guns while you sit at home with your airsoft toys.
MrUSA96 3 months ago 3
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@MrUSA96 He was right, it does look retarded. It doesn't "work" any better than shooting properly does.
aluisious 3 months ago
@aluisious whatever dude the main point of me posting that response was to tell the kid that he cant tell people how to handle there guns when he cant even own one in his nation. i dont like posting mean things but it pissed me off when i saw that. i dont really care what u think a proper stance is, thats why we live in america, so we can say and do things freely
MrUSA96 3 months ago
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@MrUSA96 i have shot a real gun before a l98 assault rifle and .22 rile at a range , so in no way am i jealous he just looks like a retard when firing that thing
danp173 3 months ago
@danp173 even if that is true, this guy has much more trigger time than you will ever have. the point of me replying was not to debate his stance, i posted that because you cant tell people how to handle there guns when you have near no experiance behind a AR or any other rifle. we all have or ways of shooting and what works best for us, but dont say things that make u look stupid.
MrUSA96 3 months ago
are the sounds fake or real? The audio seems edited somehow.
roberto125919 3 months ago
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bunch of Firing range pussies talking bullshit....
go in a real firefight, i want to see you using those fancy firing stances... haha.
ZzRvXzZ 4 months ago
@ZzRvXzZ
since when has standing unsupported been considered a fancy stance? if you're talking about the rifle grip you can get in touch with larry vickers, pat mcnamara, brian searcy, kyle lamb, jason falla, jd potynsky, kyle defoor, mike pannone, etc and ask how their experiences in combat affected why they practice and preach a similar rifle support grip.
i'm not sure what unit you served with- maybe you have more combat experience and know more than them, but i doubt many do
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@MichaelBarnes
come to rio de janeiro and show us how to fight drug dealers with your jedi technices
ZzRvXzZ 4 months ago
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@ZzRvXzZ
The amusing thing is that I would not be all too surprised if he took on every single dealer in the city - with his choice of fighting rifle, sidearm, and a stack of magazines - and won.
SayokoHatsuya 4 months ago
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@SayokoHatsuya
virgin teenager who watches anime.... no reply needed.
ZzRvXzZ 4 months ago
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@ZzRvXzZ
I also find it amusing that you actually replied. Resorting to ad hominem that is neither true or relevant is your next best bet, I suppose, to actually addressing the point and arguing competently; such is the 'hard' life of the dealer, I suppose. I suppose you would be the type to shoot this woman who would stand up to your fruitless big-man posturing ... in Rio de Janeiro, no?
The sir in this video has more skill with a weapon in his little finger than all the dealers in Rio.
SayokoHatsuya 4 months ago
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@SayokoHatsuya
you're obviously a little 12 years old kid haha... it doesn't matter if he has skills in KILLING paper/steel targets... a real combat scneario is WAYYY different, it doesn't matter if the drug dealers don't practice that much... IT DOESN't mean that he would do SHIT in the favelas... are u retarded? seriously, this guy would be killed in 2 minutes inside a favela, period. if u don't believe on me, go do some research.
ZzRvXzZ 4 months ago
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@ZzRvXzZ
>you're obviously a little12 years old kid haha
You certainly spell like one.
>a real combat scneario is WAYYY different
Yes.
>it doesn't matter if the drug dealers don't practice that much
You have totally invalidated yourself.
>are u retarded
You are very good at proving yourself so.
SayokoHatsuya 4 months ago
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@ZzRvXzZ
so you're apart of the rio de janeiro police force? i personally don't think you are and are just posturing. if you are get with your superiors and organize any reputable training company (I listed off plenty of good instructors already) to come out and run through their curriculum
in the meantime you may want to work on your tact when conducting a dialogue since you come of as a bit immature
MichaelBarnes 4 months ago 7
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@MichaelBarnes
one question:
have you ever been in a real combat? fighting against enemies armed with 7.62 x 51 battle rifles?
post a video of you doing this: watch?v=bM3xFtBWGiE and coming home at the end of the day. then i'll say "wow, you're a good shooter, great technique"
ps: Those guys in the video are the REGULAR military police, they earn 800 dolars per month.
Ps: nice way to show that you're mature, replying a comment and blocking the guy, giving him no chance to reply. haha.
b4sshunt3rgg 4 months ago
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no, that's why i listed off people who have. maybe that's the issue here is that i'm bringing up examples of SOF personnel and you're comparing them to baseline police. they have a tough job and it's an inspiration to see them rocking through it, but i wouldn't look to them weapons manipulations training
i didn't like how he was conducting himself so i wasn't interested in what he had to say. if i hurt his feelings, sorry but i don't care much for name calling and posturing
MichaelBarnes 4 months ago 2
@b4sshunt3rgg
I - again - find it amusing to note that the first one to bring up the subject of immaturity as an argument (ZzRvXzZ with his 'teen' comment, you with your accusation that blocking is somehow immature in this situation) is usually the one immature.
I also find it amusing that those who attack Michael have uploaded vids of video game play, while Michael has handled and is skilled with a large variety of weapons platforms and has videos to prove himself such.
Huh.
SayokoHatsuya 4 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya
bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.... the same falacy trying to look smart... what a shame...
it doesn't matter if he shoots paper, i'd like to see him invading favelas here where i live.
b4sshunt3rgg 3 months ago
@b4sshunt3rgg Coming from someone who doesn't seem to quite grasp what the word "fallacy" actually means, it's a massive laugh seeing you accuse someone of trying to look smart.
I'd like to see him invading the dirty slums you live in, too; it would be an interesting exercise in seeing what a skilled man with a good rifle can accomplish.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"I'd like to see him invading the dirty slums you live in, too; it would be an interesting exercise in seeing what a skilled man with a good rifle can accomplish."
nice one, this one made me laugh, especially coming from a little teenager with an anime avatar...
go look for firefights in rio favelas, and see what is "real technique"
shooting papers don't make you a good soldier....
being in hell and surviving it, is what makes you a soldier.
b4sshunt3rgg 3 months ago
@b4sshunt3rgg >being in hell and surviving it, is what makes you a soldier.
I'd like to make the point that being proficient with a weapon helps vastly in helping to survive in hell. You seem to miss this.
>a little teenager
Unfounded.
>an anime avatar...
Irrelevant. Make actual arguments.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya
-facepalm
little kid trying to look smart with awful comments...
wheres your arguments? i don't see any... i'm only seeing a bunch of desperate attempts to look smart.
b4sshunt3rgg 3 months ago
@b4sshunt3rgg I don't need to "attempt"; the fact that you keep trying to point it out makes its own point.
Secondly: being proficient with a firearm is a form of preparing for war. You are ignoring and failing to address my arguments and then accusing me of having none.
Thirdly: I have drawn down on someone, i.e. almost having been in a firefight.
Fourthly, if you believe that less skill with a weapon means more survivability in a firefight, I am not sure what to tell you.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya
i never said that "having less skill means more survivability"
seems like you're putting too much effort on trying to looks smart, and ending up forgeting to pay attention on what i'm saying mr hentai teenager.
I'm talking about a real firefight, watch this video: watch?v=N1H8RGgn5RE
I bet you'd shit your pants in the middle of that.
i was born in one of those favelas, i've been through these firefights since i was a kid
b4sshunt3rgg 3 months ago
@b4sshunt3rgg "Ms.", if you must sling around insults and pretend you are winning.
You may have never said that having less skill means more survivability, but you sure are implying it what with your pointless ridicule of someone with actual skill with firearms handling.
Yes, I would shit my pants in the middle of that for two reasons: one being that there are no working toilets in that shithole you call a home and second that I am not possessed of nor trained with a fighting rifle.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya
congratilations! now you are being a hypocrite! Hahaha it's great to see little children showing their true form when they face the truth...
well, if you aren't training with a fighting rifle, and never have been throught HELL since you were a kid, maybe you should stick to your animes and stop saying stupid shit like "he'd probably kick the drug dealers asses"
call me next time you get into a firefight with drug dealers, and then we can argue about fighting techniques
b4sshunt3rgg 3 months ago
@b4sshunt3rgg I'm trained and proficient with a .45 calibre pistol and can recognize skill with a fighting rifle when I see it.
For me, that is enough.
If I ever decide to take a visit to your shithole - which I will not, because it is a shithole - I will seek as much training and experience as the man in this video beforehand.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya hahahahaha... trained and proficient with a .45
no, you aren't
a person can only say that she is proficient with a firearm once she gets into a firefight and comes out alive, and with atleast 1 dead enemy body on the ground...
as i said.
shooting papers help...
but the feeling of 7.62 rounds splashing 1 meters from your head, you will never get in any paper shooting training
b4sshunt3rgg 3 months ago
@b4sshunt3rgg I am trained and proficient with a .45 in the sense that, under severe pressure, I have presented my sidearm and had my sights on the center mass of a dangerously close armed target in what feels like instantly from a concealed retention holster, and at speed I am capable of keeping my shots in a five or six inch circle on paper at twenty feet.
I have not yet been under any form of return fire, and I hope I never will.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya cool story bro?
b4sshunt3rgg 3 months ago
@b4sshunt3rgg Ah. A Brazilian 4chan lurker. The completely substanceness style of "argument" - if it can validly be called that - was a decent hint, and this simply confirms it.
I mean, I could attribute it to absolutely impossible obtuseness, but I might either be insulting 4chan or giving them too much credit...
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya 4chan? what is it?
hahaha you're such a hypocrite dude! you're complaining about my arguments... and you're doing the same thing!! you're just throwing a bunch of childish insults in hope that you will get me mad... hahahahah
and why are u stalking me? wanna chat? if u want to chat. give me any adress, or any kind of adress where i can chat with u... it seems that you're a sad guy.. :/
b4sshunt3rgg 3 months ago
@b4sshunt3rgg >dude! you're complaining about my arguments... and you're doing the same thing!!
I am doing the former because you are not actually arguing, and I am doing the same because it amuses me, is in addition to actual valid arguments, and because it makes you project as furiously as possible.
As for being 'sad', I am a woman happily married to a woman.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya
well... that explains alot.
it's hard to argue with most of women because their brain usually doesn't work well, cya
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b4sshunt3rgg 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya >mentions 4chan
>identifies self as a woman married to a woman
>tries to greentext on youtube
Yup, you sir are a troll. Not a very good one either I might add.
M4DPWN3R 3 months ago
@M4DPWN3R I'm actually countertrolling some poor Brazilian idiot, but the first was a suspicion, the second is true, and the third is because it's convenient. Trolls don't generally use facts and logic, but my use of it was apparently enough to troll the dick out of him enough to block me.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya You didn't exactly use facts or logic.
M4DPWN3R 3 months ago
@M4DPWN3R Logically someone with actual firearms skill will do decently well in a firefight, as opposed to untrained moron posturing drug dealers.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya Far as I can tell, he didn't say he was a drug dealer and he didn't mention his level of training at all.
Seems you were the only one waving around their self proclaimed training level like a penis extension.
M4DPWN3R 3 months ago
@M4DPWN3R He was waving the drug dealer's "hardness" around like a penis extension and talking shit about the video like he knew something - did you actually follow the comment thread at all? - and presented his own "street cred" as some sort of penis extension. 'Bawww I grew up in x town, it's so hard around here he wouldn't survive a second'.
He essentially asked for any "cred" I had, and I truthfully gave the only experiences/skills I have, which is not very much but enough for me.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@M4DPWN3R If anything, I "whiteknighted" Mr. Barnes a bit while managing to induce incredible levels of mad in the Brazilians while doing nothing but being evenhanded and stating only truths.
I actually /knew/ he was going to end up dropping out on the "hurr hurr ur a woman ur too dum" line because I was railing him that hard, hence why I brought it up in the first place.
Fun stuff.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya I almost thought you were legit for a moment, you are DEFINITELY from 4chan. Not a doubt in my mind now.
Just go home, really.
M4DPWN3R 3 months ago
@M4DPWN3R I am not from "anywhere" except from where I'm born; otherwise, I visit /k/ occasionally to see how shitty it is, but what the hell you mean by "legit" I will not even attempt to question.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya Stop trying... You're bordering pathetic.
M4DPWN3R 3 months ago
@M4DPWN3R Trying ... what.
"Legit" ... what.
You could answer. I'm not sure how precisely I became an actual troll because I defended someone with actual skill and managed to have a little fun with it, but okay.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya /watch?v=7IEOtvupVnE Jason Falla. Former Australian SAS. Has more shoots under his belt than M4DPWN3R, ZzRvXzZ, and b4sshunt3rgg have had collective Brazilian fap sessions. Is located in the suggested video section. USES THE FANCY STANCE.
/thread, as it were.
Tangentially, one must wonder how many of our resident drug dealers actually knew what a favela was prior to MW2's release.
kobuksonhwacha 3 months ago 2
@b4sshunt3rgg >i was born in one of those favelas, i've been through these firefights since i was a kid
Please take your "street cred" somewhere else, hopefully where there is not firearms discussion happening.
SayokoHatsuya 3 months ago
@SayokoHatsuya No sir, it doesn't helps if you aren't prepared for war...
shooting at paper doesn't make you a soldier...
have u ever been in a firefight?
b4sshunt3rgg 3 months ago
@b4sshunt3rgg I'm obviously not one to talk about combat experience since I don't have any, but the video you posted shows large disorganization and dudes with guns and optics just shooting. AND they had some of the poorest technique from all shooting classes I've been to and seen. AND they were prone (wrong prone stance may I add) for half the video. AND most were on fully automatic, shooting from corners, without the gun supported. Like I said, I have no experience, but your video is some shit
TheOnlyEliteSniper 3 months ago 3
@MichaelBarnes
he's been playing too much video games.
blah23 3 months ago
@MichaelBarnes Don't listen to this guy! He obviously has no idea about gun control and effective firing stances. You have the best rife and handgun technique possible.
VitaminE6SS 3 months ago
you own the rifle i see in my dreams. lol. nice vid
MrUSA96 4 months ago
haha u look like a robot ...
blackriflex39 4 months ago
is the the infidel war belt? nice
rodneydavine123 4 months ago
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he doesnt know how to handle it
29trecool 4 months ago
this is awesome do you only have 1 rifle but you change the details and stuff or you have like 10 rifles
gundam1915 4 months ago
@gundam1915
I have a few rifles
MichaelBarnes 4 months ago
@MichaelBarnes did u build the rifle from scratch
gundam1915 4 months ago
its so weird how he holds his gun and pistol, he holds the rifle "weirdly" to reduce recoil
xCrimsonxTidex 4 months ago
These Magpul guys are out of control.
Strelnikov10 4 months ago
@Strelnikov10
If you are referring to the foregrip, you are a doofus. That extended grip has been around since Costa was in diapers. At LEAST since the Rhodesian War, I'm sure even before that.
dookie0311 4 months ago 14
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@dookie0311 Bullshit. That grip is a Magpul-created marketing technique based around unnecessary aftermarket "upgrades" to an already-solid platform. It's also cumbersome and has ZERO real-world application.
Call me wrong, go on and do it. And I'll stand right alongside you, putting every single round in the tenring while you stand there, derping around with your silly-ass Magpul toys.
Soddykins 3 months ago
ive never seen a shoot with colour correction, something i can appreciate in videos!
sig992 4 months ago
The way he holds looks weird
bobbyraejohnson 5 months ago
Which DD is this?
303badassboxer 5 months ago
@303badassboxer V5, per the description.
They make really fantastic rifles. Own a V3 myself.
soulstodeny05 4 months ago
@soulstodeny05 Missed that
303badassboxer 4 months ago
why do u hold the gun like that
alphajude95 5 months ago
@alphajude95 cuz he hits the target like that....
npa4863 5 months ago
@alphajude95 well there are two types of holding guns so for example for the assault rifles, i dont know the name but the way he holds it, there is more advantage because.........just look at redwolfairsoft on how to hold your gun or something like that
az0997711 5 months ago
A M4 at those distances seems a bit much... Try 75 yards with a pistol, that's more like it.
john21716 5 months ago
@john21716
no doubt shooting further distance targets is fun and challenging, but the close up stuff can be made more challenging as well by increasing your cadence of fire, decreasing target zone size, or decreasing time allowed during serials. for example if you're shooting as fast as you can but none of your shots are outside of the A zone,then you probably could be shooting faster- work on trigger control
MichaelBarnes 5 months ago 2
@MichaelBarnes plus if you're training for combat shooting, most engagments on the "street" happen within 10 feet, so shooting at that distance is fine, same goes for in-house defense, although room clearing is extremely challenging. If you can evoid firing inside in a combat situation, I'd pick that instead of going in. since it isn't anything like you see at the cop shows, if you use there techniques you'd be dead real quick.
1blackdeath51501 5 months ago
never seen anyone hold a gun like you do....
Moderm101 6 months ago
i love how all the gunshots sound.
c0dered987 6 months ago
Yeah, can't send comments with the right connotation. I don't doubt your much faster, just one shooter trying to help another shooter. I still learn something new every time I train.
NoWunUNO15 6 months ago
You may want to consider re-reading my statements. I don't feel like getting into a pointless degree war, but I have taken many courses and have also taught some - I am not an armchair warrior. You also may want to consider re-evaluating your attitude and try taking a critique with a grain of salt.
NoWunUNO15 6 months ago
@NoWunUNO15
i'm not trying to get into any war, i'm sorry if i'm coming off as abrasive- i don't like typing responses since they usually feel very impersonal. you're right i am slow in this video, i'm just letting you know this isn't me running full speed. i appreciate the feedback
MichaelBarnes 6 months ago
@MichaelBarnes And maybe what this "non-armchair warrior" fails to understand is that most firefights in the military happen at an average of 25 yards. Most pistol fights average in under seven feet. Training at long distances is ok, but it is mostly target practice as I see it.
SmokeRingsPipeDreams 5 months ago 2
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While your fanboy-ness style of Magpul and Chris Costa is mighty large, try adopting their style with the comfort of your own. You seem very uncomfortable and, well...slow; that is, slower than what your capable of. He is a good teacher but I bet if you asked him he would tell you the same. Keep on shootin, you look well versed :)
NoWunUNO15 6 months ago
@NoWunUNO15
no doubt there is always room to improve, but i feel your comment is off base
MichaelBarnes 6 months ago
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Your right, ALWAYS room for improvement. Just commenting on that you look uncomfortable. It's just that I've shot with many guys that feel like Chris Costa is god of the tactical world and would probably grow a beard like him if they could. In the end they are worse off when than before. Not diggin at Chris, his methods are good and he is good at his methods. Just remember, there are many rifles and that ones YOURS.
NoWunUNO15 6 months ago
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@NoWunUNO15
looks can be deceiving i suppose. i don't really care too much how you feel about costa, i've never trained or shot with him so i'm not sure why you're bringing him up
MichaelBarnes 6 months ago
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@MichaelBarnes
As I stated before, you shoot and move like him. I don't know if you trained with him or not and I don't really care. POINT BEING - your stiffness is slow, you have more potential.
NoWunUNO15 6 months ago
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@NoWunUNO15
you may want to consider getting taking some courses outside of magpul. i'm moving slow because i'm not under a clock, if i wanted to show off my splits during a transition i would make a video showing off my splits. main priority of the video is showing off the rifle as stated in the title.
MichaelBarnes 6 months ago
what kind of camera or mic do you have cause it makes everything sound badass!
broshamski 6 months ago
Don't forget to put the safety on when you transition. You can see that it is off on one of those transitions.Your trigger could catch on a magazine and boom your foot is gone.
87228 6 months ago
@87228
i don't follow that school of thought since the only reason why i'm transition to the handgun is because the gun is empty or has malfunctioned and is incapable of being fired. otherwise yes when the stock comes off my face safety comes on
MichaelBarnes 6 months ago
@MichaelBarnes
That is a valid point, but the issue is cost vs benefit. It takes no extra time to put the safety on during the transition, especially if you have an ambi safety. The benefit is automatically always putting the safety on so that one day you don't screw it up and let a ready to fire rifle hang. Muscle memory works best when the brain isn't involved. There are other types of transitions that involve letting a working rifle hang, like having to carry something. It is best to KISS.
87228 6 months ago
@87228
i found it does add extra time,which is another reason why i avoid it. it's not much time,but it's time i'd rather not lose.i really doubt i'd accidentally transition with a hot gun since i don't game these transitions- i really don't like using a handgun if i have to when i have a operational rifle strapped to me. for other transitions(like slinging the rifle)that happen after my followthrough the safety is on,since flipping the selector on safe is part of my followthrough
MichaelBarnes 5 months ago
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87228 6 months ago
what is the belt you wearing
koziro112 7 months ago
@koziro112
us grunt gear infidel belt
MichaelBarnes 6 months ago
iLike
Paintbl99 7 months ago
Why do u hold it so weird?
AlphaMitts 7 months ago
@AlphaMitts For more control.
alexriderproductions 7 months ago
lol ur seriously gonna have a hunch back wen your older lmao
SGFLOW 7 months ago
Just curious, why do you flare your left arm when you fire your sidearm
TheCivilianSoldier 7 months ago
@TheCivilianSoldier
i was taught modern iso as having your elbows pointed outward: so when the gun recoils the bend in your elbows would have the gun go straight back. with elbows pointed downward the gun would recoil upward.
left arm is slightly higher since my left hand is able to get higher on the gun than the right since it's limited by the tang of the pistol
MichaelBarnes 7 months ago
@MichaelBarnes Okay, thank you for the clarification
TheCivilianSoldier 7 months ago
I'll be getting that Troy handguard on my first build :) Nice shooting!
EverythingisFire 7 months ago
is it me or do you look like the scout from TF2...
KrimzonTide 7 months ago
what do you like better the t1 or the eotech? and is that a 40rnd pmag on your belt or is it just siting high in the pouch?
kyledanger45 7 months ago