Kevin Behan Asks What is the Nature of a Dog?

[quantumcanine]

Do this experiment. Pet a dog. Write down results. Compile the data.

[PrometheansFire]

You made the claim. It is up to you to gather the data that support your claim.

[PrometheansFire]

Your claim. It's up to you to produce data.

[PrometheansFire]

DeWaal can tell you exactly how many times, how often, what type of sexual activity, when at what times the apes he studied engaged in these behaviors. 

You are simply making claims without data.

[quantumcanine]

My claim is as valid as Frans De Waals' claim that Bonobos are the most sexual ape simply by virtue of his observations. You are instinctively selective in what you consider valid.

[quantumcanine]

What animal is more sexual than dog? Refute it if you can.

[PrometheansFire]

You made the claim, so the onus is on you to provide evidence of your claim.

You have no evidence...so your claim is worth nothing.

[quantumcanine]

I suppose you challenged behaviorism on that same basis when it dubbed the Bonobo to be the most sexual and social ape. Dogs make Bonobos look chaste in comparison. Name a more sexual animal than the dog.

[PrometheansFire]

So you have no evidence to back up your claim about dog's sexuality. Just like you have no evidence to back any of your other claims.

Where is the documented evidence that dogs are the most sexual animal on earth? How did you come to this conclusion? How many animals did you survey?

[quantumcanine]

Oh but I thought in Ridley's "Red Queen" the theory was that sexuality evolved to offset parasitic infection, but then dogs, the most sexual animal on earth, are out there eating you-know-what which supposedly decreases their fitness.

Why didn't cats eat you-know-what go on to live and then transmit this supposedly adaptive behavior to their offspring? Every statement you make is contradicted by the natural record.

[PrometheansFire]

Every statement you make is contradicted by the evidence. Other than spinning and taking a shotgun question approach - like a creationist - you really have nothing to back up any of your ideas.

Where is the documented evidence that dogs are the most sexual animal on earth? How did you come to this conclusion? How many animals did you survey?

[quantumcanine]

Why do dogs eat you-know-what?

Why do dogs herd sheep?

Why do dogs hunt birds all day?

Why the canine copulatory tie?

Why do dogs like car rides?

Why do little dogs "dominate" bigger dogs?

Why doesn't OC train search/rescue monkeys rather than human/dog teams? It would be far safer.

Why only attack dogs?

The list is as long as the things dog do.

[PrometheansFire]

Dogs eat because the ones that didn't eat died. The passed on this tendency to eat to their offspring.

Some dogs herd, some dogs hunt birds, some dogs like car rides. Some little dogs have resource preference. Again you make false, absolute statements that are not supported by the evidence.

Monkeys have a poor olfactory - basic biology.

Attack dogs are not trained for SAR. And there are really no 'attack dogs'

[quantumcanine]

Physicists are true scientists. Whenever they observe something that doesn't fit a model,if but one apple were ever to float skyward, they are instantly willing to question and ultimately throw out the model. Whereas nothing about dogs fits the current paradigm and yet behaviorists and biologists remain hard at work tweaking.

[PrometheansFire]

It is a blatant lie to say NOTHING fits. The fact that you need to make such statements only points to the weakness of your position.

[PrometheansFire]

Your so called challenge is ridiculous.

First, rational people don't throw out a theory when something is not explained.... they modify it.

Secondly, NO THEORY about anything explains every aspect of it. But in many cases the model remains useful..