asshole motorist: wrong way in bus lane, runs a red light

[nicolasraage]

It looks like the assholes are the ones intentionally blocking traffic in both lanes. Why did you feel the need to impede traffic like that? There was plenty of room for all of you in the right lane. Do you know where the person was going? Hospital emergency? Family emergency? job interview?

[unixd0rk]

@mkraeftig "roadway that is mainly intended for motor vehicles" where does it say in the law that the roadway is "mainly intended" for some certain type of vehicle? when some were built there weren't even cars yet! don't be a fucking retard your whole life. bikes have a right to the road and if ctritical mass pisses you off, imagine if each of those bikes was a car in your way, dumbass.

[unixd0rk]

@mkraeftig "P.S. The only reason semis would be "plowing" through you is if you don't yield to them." the ONLY reason? here in the city, we don't have many semi's but the ones that do have a number on the back that anybody can call if they "plow" through anything to report dangerous driving. semi drivers are much better drivers than idiots in cars anyway. i usually just call the cops when some car operator starts threatening my life and give them the plate#. did you know that cops bike?

[unixd0rk]

@mkraeftig no shit: smaller vehicles must use caution. here's a novel idea: operators of heavier and more dangerous vehicles are RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. this is why you aren't allowed to drive a semi without a special license. bikes do not require a license, and are even ridden by children - seems like cars should watch out for them, seeing as cars have seatbelts, crumple zones, and airbags whereas bicycles do not.

[unixd0rk]

@mkraeftig kind of hard for 100 cyclists to "yield" to a car that is just going to get tangled up in with a bunch of bikes. you should try riding with a large group sometime. the hierarchy you speak of is backwards: the larger the vehicle, the more responsible and cautious the operator should be. i know i wouldn't want to be on highways where i'm expected to let semi's plow through me just because i'm in a smaller vehicle. perhaps this is why semi operators require special license?

[unixd0rk]

and furthermore... pit bulls are amazingly kind dogs. they were bred to babysit infants. it is the people who train them to kill who make them "dangerous". (more evidence of your tenuous grasp on the world around you)

a person in a car who wants to drive dangerously affects everybody on the road, not just cyclists, dummy. when this idiot ran that red light, it could have been you and your family sideswiped - and you'd blame the cyclists - not the lawbreaker in the car? DUMBASS!



[unixd0rk]

@mkraeftig you're calling me "simple minded" but you can't even realize that some idiot driving their car head on into other traffic (BUSES) and run a RED because they are impatient DOESN'T HARM ME AT ALL? i even videotaped it with no problems... when i ask you what you're talking about, it's because i don't see it in the video. it isn't my fault if some idiot wrecks their car doing something ILLEGAL- GET REAL! you just like defending horrible and dangerous driving! IDIOT!

[unixd0rk]

@mkraeftig all you are doing is defending illegal and dangerous driving. i can only hope that someday, some important person in a car who is in a hurry runs you or a loved one down so you can blame someone on a bike. dumbass.

[unixd0rk]

@mkraeftig "playing games with your comment"? dude, you are the one claiming that i "got something that i deserved". i'd just like to know WTF you think it is! stop being a fucking retard.

[unixd0rk]

or maybe you meant i "deserved" to capture the idiocy of a retarded, impatient, car driver who will likely end up hurting someone someday? 

[unixd0rk]

@mkraeftig UHM - so because i'm riding my bike in critical mass, i "deserve" for a car to travel head-on into an incoming bus lane and run a red light? WTF are you even talking about?

[spazracing94]

I don't blame him BUY A FUCKING CAR



[unixd0rk]

@spazracing94 i have a car, you credulous idiot.

[BasherCoon]

Not hating or anything, but I almost agree with the driver in this. I live in a small town that has two bike/relay races, and they shut down the ONLY routes in/out of my neighborhood for the entire day.

When you have to wait 40 minutes for the pigs to move the barricade because it's suddenly a 'good time to cross', and are trying to get to WORK on time, I believe it's justified so long as you don't act a fool and try to run anyone down.

Why not run these on the bike trails that are everywhere?

[unixd0rk]

this isn't in your small town, it is in pittsburgh.  the impact here is negligible to everybody except "important" assholes who can't wait 2 light cycles so that a group ride can get through safely.

i can't help you with your complaint about the cops doing their jobs.

why not bike trails? because bike trails are usually multipurpose; joggers, little kids, inline skaters riding 4 abreast... also because the streets are usable for bike commuters according to law.

people on bikes WORK also, btw

[BasherCoon]

@unixd0rk Wow, snarky much? I only offered a solution to your little...group rides, or whatever you call these. Why clog up perfectly good roads when you can claim a jogging/multi-purpose trail and leave the roads open to licensed drivers, ESPECIALLY for leisure riding?

I've no problems with bike-riders in downtown St. Louis. Matter of fact, I like them. They dodge in and out of busy traffic, split lanes, run reds, and do other crazy things. You can't -not- appreciate cojones that huge.

[unixd0rk]

once a month ride. we hardly impact traffic even when the numbers approach 300. we are actually moving, believe it or not, just not 20 miles over the speed limit like cars. seems like the numbers of bikes on the street gets higher every year, innit?

[BasherCoon]

@unixd0rk Furthermore, why is it that every biking helmet-cam video I see on youtube, the owner of such is a total vehicle-hating douche? Are your spandex riding up THAT tight, that you can't appreciate that if there were no cars, you wouldn't have such glorious, paved roads to ride on?

Oh, yeah. And streets are multi-purpose too. Your comment is invalid. Multi-purpose = cars, trucks, tractor trailers, buses, taxicabs, motorcyclists, the occasional pedestrian, AND bicycles. The more you know.

[unixd0rk]

don't even own spandex, so i can't help you.

and actually, if you knew history instead of made it up, you'd know that the league of american wheelmen are responsible for the legislation that enacted the better roads programs that led to paved streets. your gas tax does not pay for local streets, only federal highways. i pay taxes also, and own a car and buy gas as well, as do a lot of cyclists. i also pay local tax on my home.

[BasherCoon]

@unixd0rk History? Lol. History is my JOB, son. In 1896, the first ever recorded traffic accident occurred, involving a motorist and a cyclist, whose leg was broken. The driver spent the night in jail, and the rest of his life listening to whiny bicyclists complaining that they shouldn't have to watch where they're going, because the less maneuverable vehicles should be doing that work for them.

[stiehler1117]

You guys are complete assholes. What gives you the right to block the ENTIRE road and not let traffic pass you safely. If I were the person driving the white truck, I would have ran your scrawny asses over.

FYI: America hates people like you. SNOB.

[rtblackwidow]

You guys are so gay

[unixd0rk]

thanks, gay expert!

[totse1234]

Maybe if you guys didnt purposely block public roads and laugh at the fact that you make the rest of the world travel at 3mph people would not try to run you over. Hell i wish a dump truck full of bricks would plow through every critical mass event and kill off all the asshole bikers and leave only the courteous ones who dont block traffic on the roads.

[unixd0rk]

maybe if your head wasn't up your fat lazy ass?

nobody blocks traffic except your fucking stupid morons in cars. i can promise you that, you are always in my way and making dangerous maneuvers.

[totse1234]

ever notice how nobody hates on motorcycles? same thing as a bicycle only they can TRAVEL AT NORMAL ROAD SPEEDS! when im driving on a road with a 45mph speed limit i should not have to do 5mph because some guy on a bike is too fucking lazy to move over.

[unixd0rk]

there is no minimum speed limit on the types of roads that bikes are permitted on. you are a soggy diapered baby in your big fucking fast car who doesn't understand that it's legal for you to cross the double yellow to pass a cyclist (or a horse drawn wagon, or a garbage truck, or a farm tractor) if you really have to. why don't you cry some more about how you can't control your vehicle and have to piss your pants when trying to get around cyclists?

[uglifukka]

I like to cycle. I also like to cycle carrying a weapon or three. Maybe I give cyclists a bad name but motorists need to learn, there are ways and means of catching up with them. The law does nothing to help so, its war. Me versus them, if I pop a few rear windshields with my hi velocity .22 good. If they're dumb enough to actually stop and get out to retaliate GAME ON they lose a lot more than their windshield then.

[totse1234]

Id like to see you actually try that. Everyone I know has their CCW permits and you would either be lying on the ground with a gun in your face or you would be on the ground dead with several holes in you. You dont shoot anyones car and you know it. stop acting like a tough guy because your a bike rider.

[unixd0rk]

i'd like to see you do anything but cry about it on youtube, cunt.

[unixd0rk]

free clue: bikes can maneuver better than cars. i, for one, can ride my bike up over your car if i need to. maybe that's why i have the attitude i do?

i dunno... but either way... go ahead an fuck with some cyclists and see where that gets you... jail? coffin? newspaper headlines?

[totse1234]

OK so your bike can climb a 5ft vertical wall? all you would do is end up headfirst through my back window.

[unixd0rk]

@totse1234 your car is not five feet tall. google "bike trials". watch a few of my videos... i can jump onto and over your car.

[stealthaltima]

I was there... Legally, I didn't know there was a definition of what a critical mass is. Second, bicycle code here says you can ride where ever you like as long as you can keep up with traffic. Speaking of laws, vehicle code in PA REQUIRES a 3ft buffer zone to pass, no if's and or but's. So, were we breaking laws? That can be argued both ways. Were they breaking laws? YES! Even if you can argue we were breaking the law, we were not actively putting anyone in danger-they were.

[Sasch81]

5. You shouldn'Ät drive and use a camera, didn't you learn that in driving school?

6. I would have done the same and pass on the other lane.

7. running a red light! waht is the first cyclist doing?? He also doesn't stop for it...

[unixd0rk]

we stopped at the light.

the law states that i have to have one hand on my handlebar and nothing about using a handheld cam.

if you had done the same, you'd be lucky if a bus did not hit you head on. that lane is the opposite direction of travel and illegal for cars to ride in.

[Sasch81]

Well, cyclist like you are responsible for all others hating cyclists.

1. You are driving extra slow!

2. there is enough place not to stay in the middle of road.

3. hearing somebody laughing makes me think you do this on purpose to provoke the car/busdrivers

4. this is not critical mass. By law you need 16+ cyclists, and eventhen you have to use ONE lane, and not TWO lanes!!

[unixd0rk]

critical mass is slow because there are people of all ages riding with us.

the laughing was someone talking to their friends. you can think what you want and read into it way to much if you'd like to though.

we had approximately 60 cyclists, and also, since you can't read the other comments by people like you, we occasionally have the police riding with us blocking traffic to prevent people who are too impatient to wait 2 minutes from entering in with the bikes. it's safer.

[HJW018]

Blocking the road intentionally is impeding traffic and inciting road rage, which do you choose? Its better to move over and let them by than to block both lanes, and be jacks.

[unixd0rk]

"incite road rage"?

buddy, just riding a bike in traffic alone on my commutes by myself seems to garner that reaction. people have a choice to endanger others with their vehicle. the people on bikes don't make that choice for them. if the police had been riding with us, as they sometimes do, this asshole would have gotten pulled over and ticketed a few times for a few infractions.

getting to a RED LIGHT quickly is not an excuse to endanger others.

[inlonging]

of course that driver was wrong, but where I live cyclists are supposed to ride single-file, not in hordes. I would never dream of taking up an entire lane riding side by side with another cyclist, let alone 4-wide !! laws go both ways

[unixd0rk]

of course that driver was wrong.

do cars need to get a permit to ride in a clusterfucked gridlock? what's the "law" on that?

[unixd0rk]

also, 200 cyclists riding in "single file" on a ride with no planned route isn't going to work. what would happen is that a section would get cut off by a light and people would probably stop and wait. this would lead to a lot of people in cars trying to make dangerous right turns across the paths of cyclists.

that is a 3 lane one-way street. 35 mph limit. the 4th lane is a bus lane going in the opposite direction.

[inlonging]

Cali. law says those operating bicycles at a speed "less than the normal speed of traffic" are to ride as close as practical to the right-hand curb. The only time it's permitted to ride side by side is when you're passing another cyclist. Unlike the other posters here, I'm not defending the driver who broke the law. I'm merely pointing out that if you were in my state, you'd also be in violation of the law, and it was YOUR violation which led to this driver's idiocy.

[unixd0rk]

way to justify horrible driving and blame potential victims of said horrible driving.

perhaps you, in all of your wisdom, can suggest how to get 100-200 cyclists safely from a 3 lane one way into a single lane (which happens right after the light).

blocking the traffic is so that nobody gets killed by a car mixed in (aka: trapped) with the bikes, or by people cutting back into the lane that ends.

do you really think that a cop would give US the ticket that this asshole deserved? LOL

[inlonging]

I would suggest not insisting on riding altogether as a group, you'd just have to split up.

i remember recently going on a fundraising parade. we didn't get permits, so we had to walk on the sidewalks downtown, and when we came to red lights, we had to wait at the light. Our group had to be split up. Also, we have bike races that go through my town, and if the road isn't closed, the racers have to keep to the side. That's how it is. Maybe it's different where it is.

[inlonging]

"Maybe it's different where it is."

Sorry, I meant, "Maybe it's different where you are."

[unixd0rk]

bikes are vehicles according to state law. do you have to get a permit to drive your car in heavy traffic? i mean, it blocks emergency vehicles and people with important things to do.

here in pittsburgh, the police will occasionally ride along and cork traffic for us. it's really not the huge deal you are making it out to be. we mostly get honks of encouragement and nothing but "woooo's" and such from passers by.

[inlonging]

re: permit for traffic

Of course not!

Now, if a bunch of cars decided to slowly go down the road way under the speed limit (say for a float type of parade) that would be another thing. We have a minimum speed law here with the intent to maintain "reasonable movement of traffic." That's why bicycles, horse and buggy, and other slower vehicles are kept to the right :)

[unixd0rk]

okay, then our traffic does not need a permit.

it's not a parade: there is no planned route.

just a bunch of people and their vehicles trying to avoid getting killed by keeping horrible drivers behind the mass.

is the fact that the police know they have no reason to screw with us not registering? they ride with us sometimes. i tend to think they might know what is illegal or dangerous. the fact that they "cork" side streets *for us* shows that they understand what we're doing.

[unixd0rk]

also: no "minimum speed limit" on that street.

we only have that for divided highways in PA: 45mph, i believe, and then you have to turn on 4 ways, but bikes aren't allowed on divided highways without permission from the state or unless otherwise specified by official signage.

[inlonging]

I just realized you are referring to the 10 or so cyclists in your video as a critical mass... haha.

If you are traffic, you have to obey the laws. Google "Pennsylvania Bicycle Laws", read section 3505, specifically (c) and (e) and explain how what you are doing is following the law.

[unixd0rk]

10 cyclists?  there were about 100 that day.

okay: bike A is in the right lane taking the whole lane. i am on bike B and want to pass, i take the lane to the left and pass, you now have 2 lanes taken up. bike C decides to pass bike A also, and at the same time decides to pass me on B so they take another lane in order to pass legally as traffic.

are the bikes blocking traffic or are they traffic?

multiply that by 100, realize that the cops ride with us sometimes, and go fuck yourself.

[inlonging]

And surely you don't honestly think I'm defending the idiot driver? I thought it was pretty clear he/she was in the wrong. just because i say something u did frustrated the driver doesn't justify their foolish actions. people get frustrated driving all the time, but it's their choice to react.

[unixd0rk]

"frustrating drivers"?

not illegal.

[inlonging]

ugh. reading skills.

Again: It was your violation of the law (per my state law) that frustrated the driver. It wasn't the act of frustrating the driver which was illegal, but the actions themselves.

HOWEVER, and yes, I quote, "people get frustrated driving all the time, but it's their choice to react" meaning (since you apparently didn't get it) ultimately the driver is responsible for their actions.

u're pretty defensive about this. Riding outside designated bike area can be dangerous!

[unixd0rk]

the designated bike area is as close to the right as "practicable" in this state. this means, if i don't want to be in the door zone, i take the lane. if there is glass and garbage, i take the lane. if there are right hand turns or driveways ahead, i take the lane. bikes are allowed a lane and taking it leads to less confrontation with dangerous drivers. around 10000 miles logged in pittsburgh here with not one single accident.

[inlonging]

I think that's basically how it is here 'cept my particular city doesn't allow parallel parking on most major streets, and we have awesome bike lanes pretty much everywhere. Spoiled I guess. I'm still scared to try to cut across 3 or 4 lanes of traffic to make the left turns, though. I'm afraid of bad drivers !

[unixd0rk]

no wonder you're scared: you feel as if you aren't allowed to take a lane. i'll stop my bike dead in traffic in the center of the lane in rush hour if i need to. cars have breaks, turn signals, and steering wheels for this sort of "advanced" maneuvering to avoid killing someone.

not many bike lanes in pittsburgh... honestly, i think most bike lanes suck because they make drivers (and naive cyclists) think that bikes MUST be in the bike lane and aren't allowed in the street.

[inlonging]

I'm mostly worried about the fact that most drivers don't see bikes, or just aren't looking. Or just don't care. I drive as carefully as I can around bikes and pedestrians, yet I still end up occasionally cutting them off because I don't see them in time. So when I'm the cyclist, I'm worried about cars doing the same thing..it's an easy mistake to make.

[unixd0rk]

most drivers don't see bikes because idiots like you think riding in the gutter is a grand idea. they don't see you because you aren't in the lane. when you're in the lane and visible, they'll pass you before they tailgate you. if they tailgate you, just slow down. they'll figure it out.

the people you are cutting off should learn how to position their bike correctly. you wouldn't be able to cut them off if you were BEHIND them.

[inlonging]

Or maybe I'm thinking about the physics of jumping on front of metal vehicles traveling at 50 mph when I'm going 10 mph with nothing between me and the pavement but styrofoam and plastic.

"fuck myself?" "idiots like me" wow you're not a very happy person are you?

[unixd0rk]

50 mph on that street is 15 mph over the speed limit. it's a 35 zone.

it's also homicide if someone decides they want to drive that horribly.

i'm quite happy telling dumb people how it is: 10000+ miles of commuting in pittsburgh and not a single accident.

maybe you're doing it wrong?

[inlonging]

nono ..I meant the roads _I_ travel on, the speed limit is between 45 to 55. Naturally cars fly along faster than that, probably 50 to 65 most of the time. That's why I'm nervous about cutting across 3 lanes to make a left turn during commute time.

Just 'cause I disagree with you (remember I'm siding with your state law) doesn't mean I'm dumb. ... :/

[unixd0rk]

that's pretty stupid to mix your bike in with 60mph traffic.

...and the only thing you are siding with is the application of a law in a situation where it would cause a lot of people to get seriously hurt and disrupt traffic even more.

the police officers who ride with us and make sure that traffic doesn't mix in with us at intersections know the law better than you and yet they guide us through red lights and block traffic. maybe they know something about public safety that you're missing.

[inlonging]

Yah, unfortunately though if I want to commute to work, those are the roads I have to take. I work in another city and it's either the freeway, where bikes aren't allowed, or the 50 and 55 mph roads.. I wouldn't think YOU of all people would be saying cyclists should avoid any road.

AS far as the police, it's probably like it is in San Francisco, the police gave up trying to arrest all the cyclists, and accompany them on Critical Mass, doing their best to maintain peace. Look up Willy Brown ;)

[unixd0rk]

and btw: we are legally "traffic", so i guess if anybody was going slower than US, they'd have to ride in the door (and right hook) zone.

[mikee1434]

You assholes have assaulted people in vehicles in the past when they pass you. And you always take up every lane. and you are blocking traffic and creating hazards. so stop attacking people and assaulting cops

[unixd0rk]

no we didn't. you are obviously confusing me and my hundred friends with someone else.

the reason bad stuff happens when cars try to mix in with hundreds of cyclists, is because doing so is completely UNSAFE. get behind the mass and take an alternate route if there's too much traffic for your taste.

funny you idiots will sit in bumper-to-bumper with no problem, but when you see a hundred people on bikes heading to a red light, you think you have the right to blast through it.

[unixd0rk]

in most people's experience, people in cars are much more dangerous and volatile than someone on a bike. the term "road rage" wasn't invented because of cyclists.

also, why are you defending the asshole who illegally ran a red light? would you had rather been there in your car taking a left from craft onto 5th? 45mph into your passenger door, maybe kill or maim your favorite passenger? you'd be singing a different tune, i'd suspect.

[unixd0rk]

there is no "minimum speed limit". we aren't blocking traffic.  we are traffic.

...and we also stopped at the red light.

[mason4300]

To be honest, it is really rude to take up all the lanes and knowingly and purposefully block traffic. I can't blame the guy, especially since everyone appeared to be dawdling along and laughing at the fact that you were all blocking the driver.

[unixd0rk]

taking up all of the lanes right before a red light is only blocking assholes who break the law. for our own safety, we ride so that we don't have pockets of cars surrounded by 100-200 cyclists as we change lanes; to make a left turn, for instance. riding bikes with your friends is fun, laughing comes with the territory.

[mason4300]

I'm sure you were blocking automobiles far before that light turned to red, so no, you're keeping people from trying to get where they're going because, after reading your other responses here, I can see you're a self-entitled douche who obviously gets your kicks pissing off other people. There is NO reason for you and your retard buddies to take up 3 fucking lanes, EVER. How about you worry more about your own asses and less about other people in their cars?

[unixd0rk]

and when there's a car in front of you "blocking" you from driving through them you get this incensed? sucks to be you.

[mason4300]

Well, I can't say that I've ever had a wall of cars taking up all three lanes traveling at under 20mph when there is no traffic ahead of them. And yes, if there are cars behind your group, there is no reason to keep the cars from passing in a lane beside yours. Like I said, if you're stupid enough to manage getting run over or clipped by a car in the next lane when you're supposedly fully in your own lane, then maybe it's deserved.

[unixd0rk]

yesh, too bad that's never happened an if it did, it would be the car's fault that the accident occurred and they'd be paying a lot of bills and increased insurance premiums forever.

what's important is that this dipshit in the video passed a bunch of cyclists only to break the law by running a red light and traveling in the wrong direction down a "bus only" lane and you are here defending him.

[mason4300]

Don't be a moron, I'm not defending the driver's action at any point. I'm focusing more on the asshole-worthy tactics that you and your buddies use to aggravate people in vehicles. For simple-minded people such as yourself, I can see why you think that I'm automatically defending asshole drivers just because I'm bitching at you for being an equal asshole. two wrongs don't make a right. Both drivers like that as well as bicyclists like yourself are all part of the problem.

[unixd0rk]

if i'm "part of the problem", then how come i've never once been in an accident involving my bike and a car? i ride 15-20 miles every day.

what's the "problem", exactly?

[mason4300]

You're missing my point, genius. I'm simply referring to the usual BS reasons why you idiots ride in giant, road-blocking packs. You say you do it for safety. So you're basically just blowing holes in your own defense. If you've never gotten clipped or hit, then what makes you think you need to continue blocking cars?

[unixd0rk]

so, when the police are riding with us and corking traffic that's fine, but if we do it on our own, you have a fucking spasm?

get a life, yo.

[mason4300]

I don't have any spasm, I'm just telling you why others do shit like the driver did in the video, since you apparently are bewildered and clueless as to why people do that sort of thing when you block 3-lane roads with your antics. As I already said, I don't have "spasms" when bicyclists are in my way, I'm just explaining to you *why* a lot of other people do. You're not more important than anyone else, there is no real reason to block the flow of vehicular traffic other than to be dicks.

[unixd0rk]

you don't have to tell me that some people are assholes. i'm not bewildered and clueless about it. ps: bicycles aren't a priori "in your way", they are traffic.

you should probably have a talk with the city cops who ride with us.

had the cops been on this particular ride with us, this asshole would have never taken the left turn that he did into the middle of our mass, instead of waiting for us to go through the intersection. the cop would have been right in front of him blocking his way.

[mason4300]

I have no qualms sharing the road with bicyclists, and gladly and cautiously navigate around them, but when people like you decide to be total pricks and block an ENTIRE road, that is when I have no sympathy for your little ego-fellatio groups when they do happen to get clipped purposely by an asshole driver.

[unixd0rk]

yeah, but nobody got "clipped purposely by an asshole driver", that is your rhetorical bullshit argument that has nothing to do with this video.

the car that tried to "clip" me would be missing a mirror, right off the bat. riding 25mph directly beside a moving object is nothing when you aren't a weekend warrior cyclist and actually have some skill on two wheels.

[mason4300]

You really are special, aren't you? MY rhetorical bullshit argument? I am purely talking about the EXACT reason you fuckwads use to justify doing this kind of shit in the first place! "We ride in all the lanes and block vehicles for our safety! blah blah blah!"

So yeah, that's your bullshit, not mine. Now you're making no sense whatsoever.

[unixd0rk]

if the cops were with us that asshole would not have been permitted to make his left turn into a mass of cyclists. the people spread out to prevent him from passing and causing danger, as those three lanes filter down into a single lane heading toward downtown and a left turn lane. what we don't need is someone "passing" us on the left and then swerving into the rightmost lane (as this asshole has done) if he were behind us, he may have been held up a whole 2 minutes tops. cry about it.

[mason4300]

If you or any cyclist who pulls the shit you pulled in this video, I'd place more money on you getting your ass run down by a pissed off driver than if you took 1-2 lanes instead of the ENTIRE road like the assholes you and your Critical ASS buddies are. I love riding my bike around, but I can't fathom the amount of self-righteous entitlement you people feel you have over everyone else.

[unixd0rk]

there are sometimes cops riding with us. i'd refrain from homicide if i were in a car. i might even take another route.

[mason4300]

How about keeping to less-trafficked routes and stick to smaller roads that are more bicycle-friendly? Is that so difficult?

[unixd0rk]

we do that on occasion. it isn't difficult.

i guess what's difficult, is being in a car and maybe taking an alternate route once every month.

we typically get more cheers and "happy honks" from cars. why does your life suck so much?

[mason4300]

"we do that on occasion. it isn't difficult. "

EXACTLY my point. It isn't difficult, so why bother going into heavy traffic areas? It's stupid and just pisses motorist off that are trying to be somewhere. And yes, taking alternate routes in a car IS more difficult, as we can't go "whoops, wrong direction" and turn back as easily as a bicyclist can. It is also frustrating if someone doesn't KNOW of an alternate route. People don't like getting lost in some part of town they've never been to.

[unixd0rk]

fuckin' a, you are retarded. so... people in cars need to be coddled and diapered, is what you're saying? someone who "doesn't know where they are going" needs to speed past the mass only to swerve back into it, because they were in the wrong lane? use your head.

what happens when a funeral procession gets in front of you? same thing? where's the funeral procession youtoob video for you to hurl your stupidity at? LOL

go ride your bike on the rails to trails and sidewalk, or something.

[mason4300]

What? What the fuck are you smoking, retard? On, and you ARE a real douche, because only douchebags say "fuckin' a", haha!

[unixd0rk]

lame

[mason4300]

Who said my life sucks, besides you? Your opinion hardly counts. I'm bothering to even post here because You were being such a douche to the rest of the people commenting on your video, so I figured I'd do the same to you. It amuses me, as you're not really making any points at all, and selectively picking apart my posts to try and say I said something that I did not say. It just further confirms my belief that you do things that piss people off for the pure enjoyment of annoying others

[unixd0rk]

if i were a *real* douche, i'd delete all opposing comments from tweakheads like you. i'm sure if anybody bothered to look at any of your other comments elsewhere, they are probably just as vapid and trollish.

i'd expect this from someone of the belief that finding a new route using your car is somehow harder than re-routing on a bike. that's a real testament to your logic skills.

[mason4300]

Oh noooo, not someone threatening to delete my comments on a Youtube video! The horror! No, actually I am a great person and I don't usually make comments like this at all, much less comment on Youtube videos in the first place. I just figured I'd harass you since you were the first one to be a shithead to the other people to comment on your video. I really could care less if you hid or delete my comments, I only meant them for you, so go ahead, if they hurt your feelings that much.

[unixd0rk]

fucking drama queen.

[mason4300]

I'm a drama queen? Yeah, because I'm the one posting dramatic videos of douchebags on bikes and in cars on Youtube...

[unixd0rk]

because you think i said i'd delete your comments.  dumbass.

learn to read. i said no such thing, drama queen.

[mason4300]

Holy shit, you really are a total moron.

"unixd0rk (3 hours ago) Show Hide

if i were a *real* douche, i'd delete all opposing comments from tweakheads like you."

So you're going to tell me that you did not post that and that it doesn't exist, right here on this page, right in front of me on my monitor? That's fine, it just confirms that you are totally insane.

[unixd0rk]

"IF i were a *real* douche"...

...but i'm not. so therefore you are a drooling retard who doesn't know what the word "if" means.

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[mason4300]

that's your opinion.

[unixd0rk]

says the idiot who can't read.

[mason4300]

says the moron who can't come up with anything other than a brain-dead drone response with no meaning at all.

[unixd0rk]

your whole argument in your comments was about blaming potential victims of maniac drivers for the actions of the unsafe driver (logical fallacy) and lending your inexperience at safe cycling in groups over 100.

yeah. i'd say that you completely won this one. yep.

ROFL. go play with your digital dollies, loser.

[unixd0rk]

you just don't understand that nobody should be "pissed off" by some bicycles enough to risk harming someone. you also don't understand that a 2 minute delay isn't worth killing someone, and really shouldn't incite anybody with 2 brain cells to homicidal behavior.

you claim that i'm "selectively picking apart your posts"? perhaps you should "select" something to say that isn't bullshit.

you are the idiot whining above saying i'd delete your posts when i said no such thing.

[mason4300]

I'm getting bored of trying to enlighten you to just why people get pissed at people like you, so instead I'll just mock and insult you a bit more. You don't understand that people like you are pieces of shit who are so unbelievably self-righteous, condescending, oblivious, clueless twats that it drives other people to the point of WANTING to run your pathetic asses over. It's not the bicycling that pisses me off, personally. It's the shitheads like you who's fat ass is ON the bike.

[unixd0rk]

i know exactly why someone would get pissed at a 2 minute delay: they think that they are more important than everybody else. they are homicidal. they are dumber than dirt. they are pissed at the world nobody likes their stupid ass. they are emotionally unstable and can't control their emotions.

i suspect that you possess all of those qualities.