Typical. Feminists come to a video appertaining to dudes being abused and all they can do is bash males some more. Oh well, it's exactly what I expected.
Women are half the problem...the VICTIM half of the idiot couple..listen, not all men are horrible or killers or evil..but get real people...what is on TV/news daily? Man kills wife, man kills child, man kills gf, man attempts to kill wife etc...and I'm sorry, if you are a man being abused and your freaking ego doesn't allow you to call the cops or seek help or leave her then that's your problem but to ever ever say abuse is part of the victim's problem; is just outrageous..
What is wrong with you guys? Just because women want to be treated with respect doesn´t mean we´re equally strong. God, I really hope you never find a wife
@SmileLyubov Do you want equality? Not all men are of equal size and strength. Should it be socially acceptable for smaller weaker men to violently assault larger stronger men? And socially unacceptable for larger stronger men to defend themselves from the violent attack? I find it telling that you used the word "respect" and not "equality", as I don't believe you want equality. You want preferencial treatment.
and I do agree women who falsely accuse of rape should be arrested etc..there is no need in trying to do this to a man just to ruin him..but again, history shows(not any stupid survey or research) proves, proves men do the killing the beating and the fighting..period!
I'm not going to read all the comments for I'm sure some are 100% accurate while some are 100% BS...I will just say this..any man who hits a woman is a simple sad person. If she hits you, leave, call the cops and let them arrest her. No women shd not hit either..but plz give me a break..pick up a paper, read the news stories..how many stories PER DAY do we see of jilted or angry men killing or attempting to kill their wives or gfs?? This is why the courts typically side with women. History.
@darkbyke ....women do get arrested for this when it's proven....but when the woman has marks and the man has none then sorry common sense has to prevail...again, women who hit and abuse need to be locked up too. Typically what happens is when the cops show up the men wants to show their ass and starting an argument with the cops or resisting arrest or whatever and that's what puts them in the cuffs.but again, men are the typically the source of the issues..usually drinking, or, just plain mean
it's telling that people compare feminism to nazism. millions of women all over this planet suffer/survive at the hands of men but when feminists speak/organize against it,we're hitler. that's like calling dr. martin luther king jr. a racist. get it together people.
@cherubicnerd "millions of women all over this planet suffer/survive at the hands of men" If so, why do women have anything to do with men? I mean, if men are monsters, women should stay the hell away from them. Yet they don't.
@kmsoileau hello. no,i didn't say that men were evil because they're men. people are evil because they're evil,people are good because they're good. that's like thinking that someone's ethnicity determines what kind of person they'd be. i stated the earlier response because this guy thinks that domestic violence isn't the fault of the abuser. i do believe that most d.v. is done by men against women. all d.v. should be stopped.
@cherubicnerd "i do believe that most d.v. is done by men against women." No doubt you do believe that. However, the point of the video is that your belief is incorrect.
@kmsoileau yes,i know that his video is in opposition to reality. i don't know if you can do this or not,but,call up your local police station and ask them how many domestic violence incidents involving the male as the abuser ,against the female victim, happen on a daily basis. btw, d.v. against men is as important as d.v. against women,imo. no one should be abused. like men being raped. it may be fewer than women but it's still as important.
@cherubicnerd Instead of anecdotal data from the local police station, or from the barista at Starbucks, try reading the peer-reviewed research that the author of the video provides in the "Show more" area.
@kmsoileau ...ummm because women would like to believe not every man in an asshole but yes you are correct..they are proving most are...so I agree, leave men alone
@kmsoileau ..LOL and thank you for proving my point. You can't even have a conversation without getting all upset ready to spit you are so mad..calm down..and I don't mean to upset you more but you are wrong..men abuse children more..women typically abuse children more than they do others, but wrong again, it's men who hold the #1 spot there too...but please calm down..don't get so bent out of shape..or are you just not capable of exchanging banter without getting all red faced and cursing?
@Ensconced69 LOL Don't flatter yourself. I'm sure you're incapable of inciting strong feelings of ANY kind in men. Too bad for you...it's obvious you're a man-hater. BTW, it has been established without doubt that women are the primary abusers of children. Suck on that. I'm sure there's nothing else for you to suck on.
@kmsoileau .you can't even exchange banter or have conversation without saying something mean or negative...that says a lot about your character, or, lack thereof. If it makes you feel better, I do not hate men..I hate the majority of their actions...I can't hold a conversation with someone like you. I'm sure you will respond for it is obvious you are the type that must have the last word so know that when I do not respond..it's my own choice...something you can't control..Have a nice night.
@Ensconced69 "If it makes you feel better, I do not hate men" Nobody cares. There are billions of women for men to choose from. You don't matter. Take your hatred and dote on your nine cats.
happy and misogynist aren't compatible. misogyny is hatred of womankind and happiness does not exist with hate. people are always quick to blame women for anything men do against them. from rape to domestic violence. 4.8 million women are physically and sexually abused by men each year in the u.s. alone.
Feminism is an old, last century term that does not stand for equality. "HUMANISM" is the new present century term that means equality for all. The term humanism is neutral to men, women, to all races etc. Welcome to the next step in our evolution. Please us the word humanism or humanist for equality for all.
Why are men who hold women in disdain know as misogynists (a most desultory term), while those women who have contempt for men are known as feminists? The broad use of the latter term with no distinction for the genuine misogynists in their midst is indicative of a most heinous societal double standard.
I'm all for men defending men, so I appreciate your statistics. Yes, I am a feminist and I hope one day we can work together to fight these inequalities.
@carminav25 Then you're not a feminist, you're a humanist. Feminists are about women being selfish, wich was fine in the old days when you needed to be, but not now. Equality doesnt take the name of 1 side, equality takes the name of both.
@blackman6270 Does the labeling actually matter? When there's real life self-proclaimed feminists who believe the same exact thing I do, must they be judged based on their label and not their actions? There's moderate conservatives, moderate liberals, moderate religious people, moderate black activists, there's a moderate everything. Why can't there be a moderate feminist who isn't so sexist, as everyone likes to believe...
@carminav25 Untill feminism cleans up its act, labeling does matter. Feminism is considered to be equivalent to sexism. Saying that you're a "moderate feminist will make you a "moderate" sexist in the eyes of many men. You can label yourself whatever you want AFTER feminists clean up their mess if you dont want your title to become a burden instead of something of title of pride.
@blackman6270 ..clean up their act? what are you even talking about? I hate to tell you this in case you are in fact actually a blackman...but we still live in a WHITE HETRO WHITE MAN America...which quite frankly explains a lot..these are the same men who preach values on tv one minute then go see their Mistress the other...I hate to break this to you but women and blacks have a long way to go in this country..the only reason men let women work is because most of them can't hold down jobs
@Ensconced69 First of all, I live in Holland, though Ive been in America for far too long imo.
Second of all, no women dont have a long way to go. They're already more easily allowed to colleges than men, get hired faster for a lot of jobs and promote up to 15 times faster because of feminist quotas. The reason women are allowed to work is to boost the economy by doubling the workforce. You're clearly in denial. Also, stats say that women cheat more than men now.
I'm so confused. Do misogynists like to believe that women are naturally weaker than men and can't hurt men? Or do they not? Anyways, my own opinion is that domestic abuse, whether it's directed towards women or men, it's wrong. Yes, domestic violence towards men isn't taken seriously, but isn't that because our culture likes to believe that women are pansy, weak, sex-objects that can't hurt men? Maybe if we would stop thinking that, this would actually be taken seriously...
@carminav25 ...no, it's just not reported...men's ego won't let them report it..they are embarrassed..and yes that might have to do with what their own created soceity has made them believe...but I agree, women can be horrible, nasty, , mean people too..but let's be real, for every 1 story you see of a woman killing her kid, hitting her husband, killing her husband, you can easily read 10 of men doing this..sorry but if a woman kills a man I doubt they have any choice but to take it seriously.
omg yes women instigate sometimes...maybe the man did something like cheat on her. and men are stronger so they shouldn;t hit remember "pick on someone ur own size""
@carrieonable "...maybe the man did something like cheat on her."
And, that makes it okay to hit your man. That's great. Women should do that more often to create more gender inequality in society. Cheating is an excuse to hit someone. *sarcasm*
Your point has limited logic.
"and men are stronger so they shouldn;t hit remember 'pick on someone ur own size'"
@chiboy3000 Yes you can hit someone weaker if she/he goes too far. Everyone has to know that there are boundaries and in the current system a woman is indestructible by legal matters. Men need to learn how to use their strength more defensively, for instance:
I personally like to use the fingerflick to piss a woman off and then hold their hands so they cant hit me back. So funny, she cant do anything back and she cant file for abuse :D.
@blackman6270 "Yes, you can hit someone weaker if she/he goes too far. "
I didn't say that you couldn't hit someone weaker if the need arises to do so. I said the opposite of that.
"Everyone has to know that there are boundaries, and in the current system, a woman is indestructible by legal matters."
Yes, there are boundaries; however, a woman being indestructible in the legal system is completely ridiculous. It's true, unfortunately, but it's ridiculous. Hopefully, that will change soon.
@blackman6270 "Men need to learn how to use their strength more defensively,..."
Women need to do that, too, but based on how screwed up, sexist, and biased society is about this issue, that may be a good tactic to consider and use (so some people don't hate you for hitting a woman back in self-defense).
Think about it. How often hasn't your girlfriend/sister/maybe even mother punched your shoulder? Even if we view it as something playful, if you did the same a woman could easily use that against you in court. If you tried the same, you'd probably be laughed at. "A man's supposed to be able to take a few punches" etc.
Real Woman=woman lowers herself and becomes a bitch=Man checks woman via bitch slapp=Bitch calms and the woman returns=problem solved. :)
Domestic Violence=woman lowers herself and becomes a bitch=bitch feels "empowered"="empowered" bitch becomes feminist Monster Mitch=Feminist Monster Bitch accuses man of violence=man is arrested goes to jail=society falls apart due to men being absent=the world ends and becomes like Mad max beyond thunder dome that are runned by Feminist Monster Bitches :(
I believe in equality. I was told of a woman hitting a man, *With The Intention Of Hurting Him* and he hit her back. *With The Same Intent* Personally, i didn't care. I saw her black eye, and all i could say was "Women and Men are Equals now, you hit him with the intention to do him harm, i feel for you what i would feel for another man in your position... No pity." Suddenly i'm a bad guy? Equality has no excuses. You want equality? you get all of it,
VISCOIUS IS VIOLENT IT DAMAGES THE SOUL THE NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSES THE IMUNE SYSTEM WATCH THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPIC FILM ON STRESS AND HOW IT CAUSES OBESITY HEART DISEAS AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF. MEN ARE NOT ALWAYS ABLE TO USE THESS SAME LEGAL WEPONS. SO THEY RESORT TO VIOLENCE.
I am a feminist and also a woman. I admit, women are vicious, but violent? hm, that's up to you whether to believe or not. Still it is important for male victims of domestic violence, as well as female victims, to have a voice. The silence of male victims is also a cause of patriarchy.
@coor0kun Yes they are violence, the violence is just_ IN GENERAL_ less masculine. I actually think men who stand up against women deserves a braverytoken.
@Axlena "silence of male victims" Did you hear what was said in this video? When a man called the cops because he was the victim of violence, the police just arrested him. The police, who were most likely male, probably assumed he was the abuser. People, especially men, like to believe that other men are all strong and powerful too. Many times, men are made fun of for not appearing masculine. So yes, it is the result of a patriarchy. I
how come all these men on youtube spouting this mysongonistic CRAP are old bald white guys? Because they have been in power up till now and now the culture is changing and they cant deal with equality. The "experts" he quotes are crap. Sure, men and women are violent. All violence id bad, and men who are abused should be helped. But please just look at the murder and rape statistics. Who is out there doing this? thats all i have to say.
@cinnamorollovable this is about abuse, how is this disgusting? if your son was beaten senseless by a woman and he did not defend himself becuase 'a man should never hit a woman', how would you feel? Would you tell your son that he must have deserved it? or that his feelings or personal safety is nothing compared to a woman's?or would you just beat him yourself? Abuse is wrong NO MATTER WHO THE VICTIM IS!! Get your head out of your fucking ass! The same to MsTsultrim!
@MsTsultrim Women do most of the sexual crimes as a matter of fact, and they are violent aswell. I think men are the prime victims of violence so go fuck yourself.
Women innately want to feel protected, if they become physical violent or provoke it in a relationship, it's my belief that they're testing their man's strength, she'd like to know he's in control. If he proves stronger than she, whether it's pushing her down on the bed or restraining her, she may actually become arrosed, in other words - she likes it.
This proving physical dominance is not the same as hitting or abusing her, but if she's vindicative that's the direction the woman will push it
Men suffer more moral violence from women than anything else, because women have the power of law and society, both of which ignore moral violence and believe women's lies.
Men can physically over power women in most cases, thus I have little to no sympathy for men who complain about being hit. But when a man is arrested for restraining her, or for not doing anything at all, or if he's being bullied in court, falsely accused of abuse and jailed, and restricted as a father, different ballgame.
Every one may already know this but I just wanted to mention it . The one in the relationship that had the worst childhood is usually the abuser . I had a good up bringing but my ex was neglected and abuse as a child . She was daily trouble for me and our little family . Shes been gone for many years now , its been just my kids and me . A lot of decent women like the bad boys . Their bad for a reason and have little problem beating the hell out of their women for little too nothing .
theplentysense shows why many think that men are the aggressors... In a fight women usually get hurt worse and ends up in the hospital. This doesn't show who started the fight or who hit first, only who lost. Men usually tolerate a great deal of abuse before they defend themselves.
What these studys are showing is that women are VIOLENT. just because a man doesnt come in with a broken jaw doesnt mean the women didnt hit first or there isnt 2-3 women out there hitting their boyfriends. Maybe if you listen to the arguement and what is said instead of being blind, you'd understand.
I went to the link for this so called international aggression institute. It's obscure college people not hard data from police or courts. Why don't you simply quote major stats from police, Department of Justice, World Health Org. Why? Then you'd have to stop lying and using obscure skewed data you scraped of the bottom of the internet. It's dependency that makes abuse more likely. Women with kids were dependent until we had jobs that paid enough so we could leave. Now you will see tables turn.
@theplentysense It's socially acceptable for a woman to hit a man. Because of this (and because women get hurt much more) the police and DoJ, etc do not report them because they aren't injuries. Women do not hurt men as much as men can hurt women. THAT is stated in his video. For example, my girlfriend would need some sort of giant object (probably a bladed weapon) for her to do any damage to me. however I can hit her once and she'd be on the floor cold.
@DivineDyllvan Nobody should be hitting anybody, full stop. There is a silly assumption women can't hit men or it doesn't matter if a woman hits a man. Really it's a desperation to hold on to a relationship or "staying together for the children" is a bigger problem. Do children really want to live with two people behaving like this? When you start hitting each other in a relationship get out or get help. Never be scared to be single!
@DivineDyllvan Part two. When in a relationship like this people behave in revolting ways. The violence is only part. One has the power, I believe it's usually the man. One will carry on behaving like thins the other will be happier! Trust me, I've seen it lots of times.
@theplentysense Ah feminism at it's finest. So here's some sexism for you. The only table that you should be worried about being turned is the one in the dining room.
Your links to so called research are one college professor doing studies on college kids and one where there is a brief paragraph and endless studies quoted that don't support that paragraph. I've seen this ridiculous statistic that 70% of perps are women. Ha ha ha. Really. Work in a hospital and see who comes in with a broken jaw and internal injuries. It's not men. You are spreading bald faced lies and pretend that because you post a link to some garbage that you have a valid point.
it hurts seeing all these comments about statistics on who dose most crime ecst that just makes you look stupid it is true men do also get hurt by women and the vawa is just terrible if women really want to be = you need to stop acting like only you get beaten or maimed
of course there are many thing wrong that keep women as <than men in some way or another and visa versa but these will be made right when people have the mind set of only women get abused.
@PostgodAfterbirth go die in a war to feed your masculine blood lust. i'll be here happily philosophizing and LIVING instead of dying like a stuck pig who was brainwashed into abandoning all emotion entirely to become a robot of war.
I think that the intention of violence in women are fundamentally different than the ones that man have
women attack to get attention to be heard as they being ignored, women aggression looks more like fit then anything else and they don’t actually want to cause harm to the men
Men on the other hand hit to inflict injuries and establish they superiority
I like how both of the studies used to support the argument that is in fact the men that getting abused more than the women have been conducted by men…. I am not denying that men get abused however the difference in strength plays significant role as women would not be able to brake men’s nose in one punch! And the only way to hurt men would be to use tools of some sort which would lead to preparation to the abuse scene...
@blanka677 And would domestic violence against men require a broken nose with a single punch. If slapping, pushing and threats are to be considered violence when used on women then they should be considered violence when used against men. Also, it is not uncommon for a woman to use a tool against a man such as a knife or blunt instrument. Just because men did these studies doesn't make them false. I find the argument of women being less strong than men to be an excuse rather than an argument.
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Americans can search the British (Norgrove) Official Family Justice Review. There's no need for criminal law oath for allegations of abduction etc?
A recent Dutch campaign on child abuse shows how women make false accusations of men in family court.
/watch?v=drsT8L8h5ho
For anybody watching it who has once been in Sander's situation (especially women) speak out & campaign to change family laws. Otherwise remain silent & be content enough with the situation to do nothing about it for dads & kids
A very enlightening video. In my own life, on two occasions, I was physically attacked by a woman. One took a coffee mug and knocked me side the head with it. I was dizzy for days. Probably had a mild concussion. Of course, I didn't report it. My offense, breaking up with her. And it is not taken into account the mouth of women. Though it shouldn't be a complete defense for physical abuse, at least a women ragging on your ass hours on end should be considered a mitigating circumstance.
According to one of the studies in there, with men a higher education was negatively correlated with violence, while the opposite was true for women. WHAT IS WRONG WITH WOMEN!?
You are referring to studies on college and school kids. I know. I've researched this. Go sit in emergency and see who comes in with a broken jaw or a broken arm. It's not men. Stats show men kill 80% of the time in domestic murders. Of the remaining 20%, 15% are women defending themselves during an attack, That means ONLY 5% of domestic murders are committed by women. You think slandering women distracts from the truth, that you can hide the truth with lies. Nonsense!!
@true6lue88 I think a problem with research like that is that men are embarrassed or in denial a lot of the time, so they don't admit to being abused. Society has conditioned men to be 'tough' and to be able to defend themselves. When a man confesses to being raped or abused, they are met with either mockery or disbelief regardless whether the abuser is another man or a woman. I'm quite jaded with the current system for abuse toward both sexes, though. Not nearly enough is done.
@superstaff In fact DV can occur right in a public place, and if its a woman hitting a man people do nothing.
One video of which a show did a social expiriment in a public place where they had a female actress pretending to physically and verbally abusing her boyfriend which was also an actor.
Over one hundred people walked by and did nothing, many assumed he had it coming to him.
We assume the best of women and the worst of men, should we be surprised men report this less?
@ManSpeakOut Er, not sure why you're talking to me specifically... ^^;; Although, I do agree with a lot of what you say (and yes, I saw that episode of What Would You Do). But I can't deny that women do ALSO get abused. Men and women can abuse, but there are people of both sexes that are also victims. Humanity as a whole has been capable of all sorts of acts of cruelty. Equality means to acknowledge that both sexes deserve to be helped and taken seriously. (cont)
@superstaff Ah crap, I just sent all of this to the wrong person. (Had not made that mistake in a long time.)
It was actually intented in response to YounkerDare, must have accidentally replied to yours instead of theirs since they were right next to each other, in my haste and went to town from there.
Course I am not going to re-write this all over again for a direct response to him, don't need to spam up the boards, and apologies for that
@true6lue88 - No, you're nonsense! Women abuse men all the time, you just don't know about it. The statistics are very askew because men don't often report abuse like women do but that doesn't mean it's not happening. So obviously the statistics are going to be heavily biased towards women when the reality is that men and women are both victims of domestic violence.
@NautyKnight "biased" is not the right term to use when talking about statistics. 4.8 million women are raped and physically abused by men each year in the u.s. alone. what's unfair about reality? statistics are gathered from law enforcement to understand how widespread a certain crime has become.for the men who are physically abused,gay men included, they have to report the crime,just like women do.
@cherubicnerd - Wrong. There's 4.8 million rape and abuse REPORTS each year. How many of those REPORTS are false I wonder? And notice how they never keep statistics on false rape reports. Face it, our society is sexist as fuck against men. The whole fucking system is played in favor of women and totally against men. If a woman reports rape they add it to the statistics that she was raped. But was she really? Or was she just being a vindictive bitch out to get an ex-boyfriend locked up?
False rape reports are fairly low because there is still a huge amount of stigma and shame surrounding rape charges; because (guess what?) rape victims will face a lot of attacks on whether they are telling the truth or not, or trying to get an "ex-boyfriend" in jail. There's also the whole "She wanted it thing". And actually, they do keep those statistics. According to government studies in the USA, definitive fake reports lay around 3-4% percent, and most rapes go unreported.
@Windyshoot - Wrong again. Rape victims (in the US at least) have their identity fully protected while the accused has his identity smeared in the public eye. You don't think that a man who's being dragged through the mud with a rape charge against him is shamed? He's usually fired from his job, run out of town, nobody will hire him, etc. All this for just being ACCUSED of rape. His whole life is ruined before he's even convicted. This is wrong! It's an anti-justice when she could be lying!
@Windyshoot - The 3-4% of false reports are those they have proven to be false rape reports. When they collect rape statistics they don't have to prove a rape happened. They just take the female's word for it. It goes down in the book as rape. It's impossible for law enforcement to know if a woman is lying or not so they just take her word for it. But there's an awful lot of women that are vindictive in this society who accuse men of all sorts of shit when it didn't happen. We all know it.
@NautyKnight Yes, there is problems with that. But that doesn't change the fact that most women (and men) who experience rape still, even with their fully protected identity, do not report rape because even going to the police about it is /that shameful/.
For every rape that goes to the police, there's been at least 7 others who haven't.
@Windyshoot "For every rape that goes to the police, there's been at least 7 others who haven't." Um, excuse me, but if something isn't reported to the police, why should we believe it happened? Because some mentally unbalanced person said so on a a survey?
@kmsoileau so,you don't believe that someone wouldn't tell? children are abused every day in the u.s. alone. do you think that they aren't abused because they don't tell someone? people don't tell things because of the shame and stigma attached to being victimized. you see how you said that the person is"unbalanced"? this comment is to your comment to Windyshoot.
@cherubicnerd "people don't tell things because of the shame and stigma" I'm talking about adults, not children. Also, how does one distinguish a survey report of abuse that is factual from a survey report of abuse that never happened?
Yes, yes they should. Because the more shame/victim blaming that a culture places on rape victims, the higher the rate of non-reported rapes get. Look @ Japan, South America, Russia, anywhere really.
But looking at your other comments, its pretty apparrent you just emotionally hate women and won't really listen to anything that might go against the imagionary bitches and harpes in your head.
@Windyshoot "women are the most common abusers of children" Your armchair psychoanalysis of men who disagree with you doesn't change this. Your response to criticism of women: "its pretty apparrent you just emotionally hate women". Laughable and predictable.
While it is generally true that men are -on average- stronger physically by women (no that is not a sexist comment it is simply how nature made most of us) many a man hold the principle of not "hitting girls". I do however know there are exceptions aplenty there too, resulting in domestic violence.
I also know however of women that are so dominating and neurotic that lead men into depression or even in some cases suicide. For them the infamous "nail-slap" and "vase-tossing" is all too natural.
@KabaMaroudis I think most nordic women are stronger physically than asian men. So no, I find your statement etnocentric. Men get bitchslapped too, especially glamfags and femine men get treated bad, but men too. And lets not ignore domestic abuse from same gender either. These debates are too abrahamittic.
i'm not a feminist, and i believe that there are allot of women who are the perpetrators, but no way is this dude right, i agree the hundreds of sources he pointed out are true but NOT representative, as there are even more sources suggesting that men are the common perpetrator. personally, i think we will never get accurate results/statistics because so many people don't speak up about being abused. I think it's pretty equal though when it comes to spousal abuse, but more women die probs.
I lived with a woman who tried to provoke me to hit her on a regular basis for the last six months we lived together. I didn't hit back and I am glad I didnt because I might not be able to see my son. She has four children from four different men and she provokes violence to take the kids and the support payments and evict the men. If the laws were much more balanced she would have been arrested for punching me in the face and then punching our son (who I was holding) at the time.
male domestic violence doesnt exist, female domestic violence does and theres actual proof too amazing...
men you have nothing to complain about so shut the fuck up already and stop blaming men raping women, beating women on feminism. grow up and take responisblity for your actions.
@Delirium189 Saying abuse towards men doesn't exist is just as bad as saying abuse towards women is a myth. Men get abused as well, even by other men. I know men who would get beaten as children and then would get into bad relationships as adults.
@Delirium189 There are no actions for abused men to take responsibility for because they're not at fault. I hate it when some people tell abused men either to "grow up" or that "it's their faults" when neither is true.
@Delirium189 How dare you say that when there are countless men who are abused by women on a daily basis. My friend's mom gets drunk all the time and then physically and verbally abuses my friend and his dad, and they just take it day after day. Violence against men is a problem, and it needs to be addressed.
Men are rapists, murderers and women beaters.. and you cannot disprove it at all... i know many men who beat rape etc.. and just because you dont see it doesnt mean is isnt there. you are stupid to claim this is false when you are so blind to see it is happening all over the world.
@Delirium189 Are you serious? You think that men are the only ones who do these things? You think that all men act like that? You're wrong. Women can be rapists and murderers, too. They can also be men-beaters. Abuse against men does exist. This video proves it. Search it on the internet if you're in denial. You will find supporting facts. Don't call people blind and stupid when you're acting like that as well, not knowing about this issue.
If a women wants to act like a man then I treat them like a man. Most of the time I just walk away. Women manipulate the system to their own ends. They have no soul and are in fact souless whores.
@Grizzly907LA Not all women are manipulative, just like not all men are helpless victims either. There's good people and there are also bad people. I think anyone who's been abused needs help. Sadly, abuse in general isn't taken seriously by law enforcement.
@superstaff Ummmm the cops are all over a guy if their is so match as a scratch on a women. They laugh when a women gives a guy a black eye. You have no idea of whats going on. The feminazi's are a powerful lobby even though their are only about a hundred throughout America.
@Grizzly907LA Not really on the thing about cops being all over a guy if a woman has a scratch. At least not in my experience. But I know men do get laughed at or shrugged off over having a black eye from a woman.
Oh, uploader, I forgot to mention that your screen name suggests you hate women...making you no better than the sexist feminists... Unless it's a joke? I have a feeling it might be. I disagree with sexism from eiether end.
@scooma1 - Well nobody, male or female, should have to take any kind of abuse or violence. That's all my point ever was. You can defend yourself physically if they are physically hurting you but emotionally...you should not give them that kind of power. You should not allow them to hurt you emotionally, why not just walk away and if they continue divorce or leave them. You don't need that in your life and you don't need to stoop to that level eiether. Take the high road.
Just so you know, uploader, Dr. Phil would most likely agree with you... He is a man himself. I'm sure he's aware of the unfair sexism you're pointing out. Through the years of me watching him he seems like the type of man that would take everyone to task regardless of gender. There's not a sexist bone in his body. He'd get your point as I do.
@scooma1 - I believe that regardles of how anybody is provoked that they should walk away not hit. It doesn't matter if you're male or female. violence is wrong, there is no excuse. That's all I'm saying.
@mercury4metal - So you're saying that because some man with a fucknig sense of entitlement can come home and beat his wife because he doesn't like what she has to say? Am I just supposed to shut up and be your slave? FUCK YOU, I have a right to tell and express myself without fearing being beaten up by the likes of you. That works both ways men also have the right to be heard, but your comment suggests that ONLY men have that right which is also BULLSHIT!
@DallasNeedsADentist - WHOA!!! Did you even read what I wrote, or did you let your emotions take over and blurt out without thinking about what you're saying?!? This is a perfect example of why "some women" end up like this. Of course it's not right to hit a woman, and who said anything about being a slave?!? You're the type of woman who misses the point, says the wrong thing, and ends up on the floor. Control your mouth,..............problem solved.
@mercury4metal - Just because I misread you and say something that offends you doesn't give you the right to push me to the floor. In that situation you would be the one letting their emotions take over. Both men and women need to control their mouths AND their fists. Take a walk, do whatever you need to do to calm down and then talk to the person rationally. When both humans are rational it's more difficult for eiether person to be misread. I'm more calm now then I was last night and it shows.
Abuse is a very complex subject. I don't deny that men do get abused. The other day, I saw a woman be verbally abusive to her boyfriend(?) at a store. My own experience had my father be physically and verbally abusive to both my mom and I (I'm female btw), while my mom didn't fight back against him, she did turn a lot of her frustration with my dad on me. So I ended up getting some abuse from both parents. I don't think sides can be taken in this issue. Both sexes can abuse and be victims.
@superstaff Depends on what you mean by side? Im on the "side" that is for educating both sexes to report when they have been abused or raped. And if that study is representative in its data that 70% of nonreciprocal violence is perpetrated by women, that means that the pendulum has now swung the OTHER way and that MEN are treated unequally by women.
@superstaff The few men who do seek help end up being the ones arrested and labeled as the perpatrator themselves.
There is many factors to account for as to why men reporting their abuse is so low.
The studies that say women suffer more can easily be disproved through these factors and visual evidence all the time. I recently finished watching a video where a woman almost killed a man by beating him with a baseball bat.
@ManSpeakOut I'm not sure why sides need to be taken in this topic. Men do deserve to be helped when they are being abused. Honestly, if I saw a woman beating on a man like that, I would at the very least call the police. Saying "Oh, I bet he had it coming" is not an excuse to me. And I would do the same if I saw a man beating a woman as well. Serious damage can be done and regardless of what a person did to another, hitting another is not right. (cont)
@ManSpeakOut I don't like to play the blame game on either sex. Maybe it's my own experience since I've witnessed and been the target of male and female abusers alike, so I see what people in general are capable of. Honestly, nothing is going to change unless people realize that humans in general regardless of race, religion, orientation, etc. are capable of good and evil, and to stop perpetuating/believing in misconceptions about others. Sadly, that won't be happening anytime soon.
I have seen and experienced women just asking to get their ass beat. You cant blame the dude for everything. Lets not forget how volital womens crazy emotions are. Sometimes a woman deserves the whooping she gets.
I work with domestic violence, and regardless of this video, there is a reality that women can be perpetrators of non-defensive intimate partner violence. When we consider the coercive control, there is a greater likelihood of women being perpetrators.
In fact the only real reason someone might disagree is because they enjoy the victimology they live in and don't want people like TheHappyMisogynist to come in and ruin it.
Most people, male or female have little pity for people who struggle in their domestic life. I don't really give a shit about stats. I say we should try and help people, (note I said PEOPLE) work their way out of their predicaments.
Domestic Violence can happen to anyone male or female but i'm myself am in a domestic violence relationship and i know the right and best thing for me to do is escape with my 3 children i just dont know what to do i'm scared.
Look how this man is serving life in prison for a crime he did not commit because of DV accusations of the victim when she was alive when in fact she was the one abusing him and gashing his face. Go to paulzumot com
Typical. Feminists come to a video appertaining to dudes being abused and all they can do is bash males some more. Oh well, it's exactly what I expected.
vilifiler 2 days ago
Women are half the problem...the VICTIM half of the idiot couple..listen, not all men are horrible or killers or evil..but get real people...what is on TV/news daily? Man kills wife, man kills child, man kills gf, man attempts to kill wife etc...and I'm sorry, if you are a man being abused and your freaking ego doesn't allow you to call the cops or seek help or leave her then that's your problem but to ever ever say abuse is part of the victim's problem; is just outrageous..
Ensconced69 4 days ago
I agree men are abused but men are larger and stronger and since the beginning men have been the face of abusers
lelechelle 6 days ago
I think men definitely suffer from domestic violence, but I think women are more apt to using mental abuse than physical.
NicoleMichellePea 1 week ago
What is wrong with you guys? Just because women want to be treated with respect doesn´t mean we´re equally strong. God, I really hope you never find a wife
SmileLyubov 1 week ago
@SmileLyubov Do you want equality? Not all men are of equal size and strength. Should it be socially acceptable for smaller weaker men to violently assault larger stronger men? And socially unacceptable for larger stronger men to defend themselves from the violent attack? I find it telling that you used the word "respect" and not "equality", as I don't believe you want equality. You want preferencial treatment.
SweatyGrip 1 week ago
@SmileLyubov This video is right on point.
HairH2O 1 week ago
and I do agree women who falsely accuse of rape should be arrested etc..there is no need in trying to do this to a man just to ruin him..but again, history shows(not any stupid survey or research) proves, proves men do the killing the beating and the fighting..period!
Ensconced69 1 week ago
I'm not going to read all the comments for I'm sure some are 100% accurate while some are 100% BS...I will just say this..any man who hits a woman is a simple sad person. If she hits you, leave, call the cops and let them arrest her. No women shd not hit either..but plz give me a break..pick up a paper, read the news stories..how many stories PER DAY do we see of jilted or angry men killing or attempting to kill their wives or gfs?? This is why the courts typically side with women. History.
Ensconced69 1 week ago
@Ensconced69 .... you don't get it. Cops won't arrest women, they laugh and put the man in cuffs. No questions asked!
darkbyke 1 week ago 7
@darkbyke ....women do get arrested for this when it's proven....but when the woman has marks and the man has none then sorry common sense has to prevail...again, women who hit and abuse need to be locked up too. Typically what happens is when the cops show up the men wants to show their ass and starting an argument with the cops or resisting arrest or whatever and that's what puts them in the cuffs.but again, men are the typically the source of the issues..usually drinking, or, just plain mean
Ensconced69 4 days ago
@Ensconced69 i agree.
cherubicnerd 5 days ago
it's telling that people compare feminism to nazism. millions of women all over this planet suffer/survive at the hands of men but when feminists speak/organize against it,we're hitler. that's like calling dr. martin luther king jr. a racist. get it together people.
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
@cherubicnerd "millions of women all over this planet suffer/survive at the hands of men" If so, why do women have anything to do with men? I mean, if men are monsters, women should stay the hell away from them. Yet they don't.
kmsoileau 5 days ago
@kmsoileau hello. no,i didn't say that men were evil because they're men. people are evil because they're evil,people are good because they're good. that's like thinking that someone's ethnicity determines what kind of person they'd be. i stated the earlier response because this guy thinks that domestic violence isn't the fault of the abuser. i do believe that most d.v. is done by men against women. all d.v. should be stopped.
cherubicnerd 5 days ago
@cherubicnerd "i do believe that most d.v. is done by men against women." No doubt you do believe that. However, the point of the video is that your belief is incorrect.
kmsoileau 5 days ago
@kmsoileau yes,i know that his video is in opposition to reality. i don't know if you can do this or not,but,call up your local police station and ask them how many domestic violence incidents involving the male as the abuser ,against the female victim, happen on a daily basis. btw, d.v. against men is as important as d.v. against women,imo. no one should be abused. like men being raped. it may be fewer than women but it's still as important.
cherubicnerd 5 days ago
@cherubicnerd Instead of anecdotal data from the local police station, or from the barista at Starbucks, try reading the peer-reviewed research that the author of the video provides in the "Show more" area.
kmsoileau 5 days ago
@kmsoileau ...ummm because women would like to believe not every man in an asshole but yes you are correct..they are proving most are...so I agree, leave men alone
Ensconced69 4 days ago
@Ensconced69 Since women are the most common abusers of children, they have little room to criticize men. Eat shit, bitch.
kmsoileau 4 days ago
@kmsoileau ..LOL and thank you for proving my point. You can't even have a conversation without getting all upset ready to spit you are so mad..calm down..and I don't mean to upset you more but you are wrong..men abuse children more..women typically abuse children more than they do others, but wrong again, it's men who hold the #1 spot there too...but please calm down..don't get so bent out of shape..or are you just not capable of exchanging banter without getting all red faced and cursing?
Ensconced69 3 days ago
@Ensconced69 LOL Don't flatter yourself. I'm sure you're incapable of inciting strong feelings of ANY kind in men. Too bad for you...it's obvious you're a man-hater. BTW, it has been established without doubt that women are the primary abusers of children. Suck on that. I'm sure there's nothing else for you to suck on.
kmsoileau 3 days ago
@kmsoileau .you can't even exchange banter or have conversation without saying something mean or negative...that says a lot about your character, or, lack thereof. If it makes you feel better, I do not hate men..I hate the majority of their actions...I can't hold a conversation with someone like you. I'm sure you will respond for it is obvious you are the type that must have the last word so know that when I do not respond..it's my own choice...something you can't control..Have a nice night.
Ensconced69 3 days ago
@Ensconced69 "If it makes you feel better, I do not hate men" Nobody cares. There are billions of women for men to choose from. You don't matter. Take your hatred and dote on your nine cats.
kmsoileau 3 days ago
happy and misogynist aren't compatible. misogyny is hatred of womankind and happiness does not exist with hate. people are always quick to blame women for anything men do against them. from rape to domestic violence. 4.8 million women are physically and sexually abused by men each year in the u.s. alone.
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
@cherubicnerd ...now you're just using words they won't understand lol...but very true yes
Ensconced69 3 days ago
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Feminism is an old, last century term that does not stand for equality. "HUMANISM" is the new present century term that means equality for all. The term humanism is neutral to men, women, to all races etc. Welcome to the next step in our evolution. Please us the word humanism or humanist for equality for all.
hurc662000 2 weeks ago
Why are men who hold women in disdain know as misogynists (a most desultory term), while those women who have contempt for men are known as feminists? The broad use of the latter term with no distinction for the genuine misogynists in their midst is indicative of a most heinous societal double standard.
timedmusic 2 weeks ago
I'm all for men defending men, so I appreciate your statistics. Yes, I am a feminist and I hope one day we can work together to fight these inequalities.
carminav25 2 weeks ago 2
@carminav25 Then you're not a feminist, you're a humanist. Feminists are about women being selfish, wich was fine in the old days when you needed to be, but not now. Equality doesnt take the name of 1 side, equality takes the name of both.
blackman6270 2 weeks ago
@blackman6270 Does the labeling actually matter? When there's real life self-proclaimed feminists who believe the same exact thing I do, must they be judged based on their label and not their actions? There's moderate conservatives, moderate liberals, moderate religious people, moderate black activists, there's a moderate everything. Why can't there be a moderate feminist who isn't so sexist, as everyone likes to believe...
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@carminav25 Untill feminism cleans up its act, labeling does matter. Feminism is considered to be equivalent to sexism. Saying that you're a "moderate feminist will make you a "moderate" sexist in the eyes of many men. You can label yourself whatever you want AFTER feminists clean up their mess if you dont want your title to become a burden instead of something of title of pride.
blackman6270 2 weeks ago
@blackman6270 ..clean up their act? what are you even talking about? I hate to tell you this in case you are in fact actually a blackman...but we still live in a WHITE HETRO WHITE MAN America...which quite frankly explains a lot..these are the same men who preach values on tv one minute then go see their Mistress the other...I hate to break this to you but women and blacks have a long way to go in this country..the only reason men let women work is because most of them can't hold down jobs
Ensconced69 3 days ago
@Ensconced69 First of all, I live in Holland, though Ive been in America for far too long imo.
Second of all, no women dont have a long way to go. They're already more easily allowed to colleges than men, get hired faster for a lot of jobs and promote up to 15 times faster because of feminist quotas. The reason women are allowed to work is to boost the economy by doubling the workforce. You're clearly in denial. Also, stats say that women cheat more than men now.
blackman6270 3 days ago
I'm so confused. Do misogynists like to believe that women are naturally weaker than men and can't hurt men? Or do they not? Anyways, my own opinion is that domestic abuse, whether it's directed towards women or men, it's wrong. Yes, domestic violence towards men isn't taken seriously, but isn't that because our culture likes to believe that women are pansy, weak, sex-objects that can't hurt men? Maybe if we would stop thinking that, this would actually be taken seriously...
carminav25 2 weeks ago
@carminav25 ...no, it's just not reported...men's ego won't let them report it..they are embarrassed..and yes that might have to do with what their own created soceity has made them believe...but I agree, women can be horrible, nasty, , mean people too..but let's be real, for every 1 story you see of a woman killing her kid, hitting her husband, killing her husband, you can easily read 10 of men doing this..sorry but if a woman kills a man I doubt they have any choice but to take it seriously.
Ensconced69 3 days ago
omg yes women instigate sometimes...maybe the man did something like cheat on her. and men are stronger so they shouldn;t hit remember "pick on someone ur own size""
carrieonable 2 weeks ago
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@carrieonable "...maybe the man did something like cheat on her."
And, that makes it okay to hit your man. That's great. Women should do that more often to create more gender inequality in society. Cheating is an excuse to hit someone. *sarcasm*
Your point has limited logic.
"and men are stronger so they shouldn;t hit remember 'pick on someone ur own size'"
Women should do that, too, not just men.
chiboy3000 2 weeks ago
@chiboy3000 "and men are stronger so they shouldn;t hit remember 'pick on someone ur own size'"
Just because you're stronger, it doesn't mean that you can't hit someone weaker than you if you need to do so.
chiboy3000 2 weeks ago
@chiboy3000 Yes you can hit someone weaker if she/he goes too far. Everyone has to know that there are boundaries and in the current system a woman is indestructible by legal matters. Men need to learn how to use their strength more defensively, for instance:
I personally like to use the fingerflick to piss a woman off and then hold their hands so they cant hit me back. So funny, she cant do anything back and she cant file for abuse :D.
blackman6270 2 weeks ago
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@blackman6270 "Yes, you can hit someone weaker if she/he goes too far. "
I didn't say that you couldn't hit someone weaker if the need arises to do so. I said the opposite of that.
"Everyone has to know that there are boundaries, and in the current system, a woman is indestructible by legal matters."
Yes, there are boundaries; however, a woman being indestructible in the legal system is completely ridiculous. It's true, unfortunately, but it's ridiculous. Hopefully, that will change soon.
chiboy3000 2 weeks ago
@blackman6270 "Men need to learn how to use their strength more defensively,..."
Women need to do that, too, but based on how screwed up, sexist, and biased society is about this issue, that may be a good tactic to consider and use (so some people don't hate you for hitting a woman back in self-defense).
chiboy3000 2 weeks ago
Think about it. How often hasn't your girlfriend/sister/maybe even mother punched your shoulder? Even if we view it as something playful, if you did the same a woman could easily use that against you in court. If you tried the same, you'd probably be laughed at. "A man's supposed to be able to take a few punches" etc.
Fuuin 3 weeks ago
Real Woman=woman lowers herself and becomes a bitch=Man checks woman via bitch slapp=Bitch calms and the woman returns=problem solved. :)
Domestic Violence=woman lowers herself and becomes a bitch=bitch feels "empowered"="empowered" bitch becomes feminist Monster Mitch=Feminist Monster Bitch accuses man of violence=man is arrested goes to jail=society falls apart due to men being absent=the world ends and becomes like Mad max beyond thunder dome that are runned by Feminist Monster Bitches :(
Dave12371 3 weeks ago 2
@Dave12371
I laughed.
Agora2021 2 weeks ago
@Agora2021 Its funny but ture :D
Dave12371 2 weeks ago
Another thing in the way of human evolution aside from extremist religion, war, and oppression. Bigotry against men called feminism.
jamesdragonforce 3 weeks ago
I believe in equality. I was told of a woman hitting a man, *With The Intention Of Hurting Him* and he hit her back. *With The Same Intent* Personally, i didn't care. I saw her black eye, and all i could say was "Women and Men are Equals now, you hit him with the intention to do him harm, i feel for you what i would feel for another man in your position... No pity." Suddenly i'm a bad guy? Equality has no excuses. You want equality? you get all of it,
PsychologicalCynic 4 weeks ago 18
VISCOIUS IS VIOLENT IT DAMAGES THE SOUL THE NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSES THE IMUNE SYSTEM WATCH THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPIC FILM ON STRESS AND HOW IT CAUSES OBESITY HEART DISEAS AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF. MEN ARE NOT ALWAYS ABLE TO USE THESS SAME LEGAL WEPONS. SO THEY RESORT TO VIOLENCE.
bryncomeaux 1 month ago
I am a feminist and also a woman. I admit, women are vicious, but violent? hm, that's up to you whether to believe or not. Still it is important for male victims of domestic violence, as well as female victims, to have a voice. The silence of male victims is also a cause of patriarchy.
coor0kun 1 month ago
@coor0kun Yes they are violence, the violence is just_ IN GENERAL_ less masculine. I actually think men who stand up against women deserves a braverytoken.
Axlena 4 weeks ago
@coor0kun The silence of male victims is a cause of female predators. Go spread your hatred for heteronormative relations elsewhere?
Axlena 4 weeks ago
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@Axlena "silence of male victims" Did you hear what was said in this video? When a man called the cops because he was the victim of violence, the police just arrested him. The police, who were most likely male, probably assumed he was the abuser. People, especially men, like to believe that other men are all strong and powerful too. Many times, men are made fun of for not appearing masculine. So yes, it is the result of a patriarchy. I
carminav25 2 weeks ago
@coor0kun good point.
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
this is fuckin bullshit.....what is this besides an attack on abused ppl...
silvermoons117 1 month ago
how come all these men on youtube spouting this mysongonistic CRAP are old bald white guys? Because they have been in power up till now and now the culture is changing and they cant deal with equality. The "experts" he quotes are crap. Sure, men and women are violent. All violence id bad, and men who are abused should be helped. But please just look at the murder and rape statistics. Who is out there doing this? thats all i have to say.
MsTsultrim 1 month ago
@MsTsultrim Thank you! Someone needed to post a halfway decent comment! This video is DISGUSTING.
cinnamorollovable 1 month ago
@cinnamorollovable this is about abuse, how is this disgusting? if your son was beaten senseless by a woman and he did not defend himself becuase 'a man should never hit a woman', how would you feel? Would you tell your son that he must have deserved it? or that his feelings or personal safety is nothing compared to a woman's?or would you just beat him yourself? Abuse is wrong NO MATTER WHO THE VICTIM IS!! Get your head out of your fucking ass! The same to MsTsultrim!
traydor1980 4 weeks ago 2
@MsTsultrim Women do most of the sexual crimes as a matter of fact, and they are violent aswell. I think men are the prime victims of violence so go fuck yourself.
Axlena 4 weeks ago
@MsTsultrim thank you.
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
Women innately want to feel protected, if they become physical violent or provoke it in a relationship, it's my belief that they're testing their man's strength, she'd like to know he's in control. If he proves stronger than she, whether it's pushing her down on the bed or restraining her, she may actually become arrosed, in other words - she likes it.
This proving physical dominance is not the same as hitting or abusing her, but if she's vindicative that's the direction the woman will push it
NSgreenRegime 1 month ago
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Men suffer more moral violence from women than anything else, because women have the power of law and society, both of which ignore moral violence and believe women's lies.
Men can physically over power women in most cases, thus I have little to no sympathy for men who complain about being hit. But when a man is arrested for restraining her, or for not doing anything at all, or if he's being bullied in court, falsely accused of abuse and jailed, and restricted as a father, different ballgame.
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And yet they always go back to the guys who "hit" them
coonclan 1 month ago
Every one may already know this but I just wanted to mention it . The one in the relationship that had the worst childhood is usually the abuser . I had a good up bringing but my ex was neglected and abuse as a child . She was daily trouble for me and our little family . Shes been gone for many years now , its been just my kids and me . A lot of decent women like the bad boys . Their bad for a reason and have little problem beating the hell out of their women for little too nothing .
1955woodsmin 1 month ago
I MADE IT SNOW CUZ I GOT TOO SAD :,)
starcraft2playa1 1 month ago
This is very True ! Femenism has done a lot of damage to the family structure .
nicktesla45 1 month ago
This is where we differ my friend. I have been through 3 abusive relationships. I can still respect women.
5151Carlitos 1 month ago
VAWA is also a program for MEN as well. I work for a law firm and we have helped MANY men through this VAWA program. I bear personal witness to this.
5151Carlitos 1 month ago
This video would have so much more impact if narrated by a female.
5151Carlitos 1 month ago
@5151Carlitos Yeah, but no one pays attention to women unless their wearing a short skirt and low-hanging V-neck.
melbyRick 1 month ago
theplentysense shows why many think that men are the aggressors... In a fight women usually get hurt worse and ends up in the hospital. This doesn't show who started the fight or who hit first, only who lost. Men usually tolerate a great deal of abuse before they defend themselves.
Steven01001 1 month ago
What these studys are showing is that women are VIOLENT. just because a man doesnt come in with a broken jaw doesnt mean the women didnt hit first or there isnt 2-3 women out there hitting their boyfriends. Maybe if you listen to the arguement and what is said instead of being blind, you'd understand.
DivineDyllvan 1 month ago
I went to the link for this so called international aggression institute. It's obscure college people not hard data from police or courts. Why don't you simply quote major stats from police, Department of Justice, World Health Org. Why? Then you'd have to stop lying and using obscure skewed data you scraped of the bottom of the internet. It's dependency that makes abuse more likely. Women with kids were dependent until we had jobs that paid enough so we could leave. Now you will see tables turn.
theplentysense 1 month ago 2
@theplentysense It's socially acceptable for a woman to hit a man. Because of this (and because women get hurt much more) the police and DoJ, etc do not report them because they aren't injuries. Women do not hurt men as much as men can hurt women. THAT is stated in his video. For example, my girlfriend would need some sort of giant object (probably a bladed weapon) for her to do any damage to me. however I can hit her once and she'd be on the floor cold.
DivineDyllvan 1 month ago
@DivineDyllvan Nobody should be hitting anybody, full stop. There is a silly assumption women can't hit men or it doesn't matter if a woman hits a man. Really it's a desperation to hold on to a relationship or "staying together for the children" is a bigger problem. Do children really want to live with two people behaving like this? When you start hitting each other in a relationship get out or get help. Never be scared to be single!
Exsugarbabe1 1 month ago
@DivineDyllvan Part two. When in a relationship like this people behave in revolting ways. The violence is only part. One has the power, I believe it's usually the man. One will carry on behaving like thins the other will be happier! Trust me, I've seen it lots of times.
Exsugarbabe1 1 month ago
@theplentysense Ah feminism at it's finest. So here's some sexism for you. The only table that you should be worried about being turned is the one in the dining room.
bucknasty80 1 month ago
@theplentysense exactly. i agree completely.
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
Your links to so called research are one college professor doing studies on college kids and one where there is a brief paragraph and endless studies quoted that don't support that paragraph. I've seen this ridiculous statistic that 70% of perps are women. Ha ha ha. Really. Work in a hospital and see who comes in with a broken jaw and internal injuries. It's not men. You are spreading bald faced lies and pretend that because you post a link to some garbage that you have a valid point.
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benwegh10 1 month ago
it hurts seeing all these comments about statistics on who dose most crime ecst that just makes you look stupid it is true men do also get hurt by women and the vawa is just terrible if women really want to be = you need to stop acting like only you get beaten or maimed
of course there are many thing wrong that keep women as <than men in some way or another and visa versa but these will be made right when people have the mind set of only women get abused.
benwegh10 1 month ago
These men are so emo. Just so damn emo.
PostgodAfterbirth 1 month ago 2
@PostgodAfterbirth go die in a war to feed your masculine blood lust. i'll be here happily philosophizing and LIVING instead of dying like a stuck pig who was brainwashed into abandoning all emotion entirely to become a robot of war.
SanguineBullet667 1 month ago
Further emphasising on women violence as apparently they are more brutal…
think about killers, serial killers how many of them are women…?
and way would you thing that might be?
blanka677 1 month ago
I think that the intention of violence in women are fundamentally different than the ones that man have
women attack to get attention to be heard as they being ignored, women aggression looks more like fit then anything else and they don’t actually want to cause harm to the men
Men on the other hand hit to inflict injuries and establish they superiority
blanka677 1 month ago
I like how both of the studies used to support the argument that is in fact the men that getting abused more than the women have been conducted by men…. I am not denying that men get abused however the difference in strength plays significant role as women would not be able to brake men’s nose in one punch! And the only way to hurt men would be to use tools of some sort which would lead to preparation to the abuse scene...
blanka677 1 month ago
@blanka677 And would domestic violence against men require a broken nose with a single punch. If slapping, pushing and threats are to be considered violence when used on women then they should be considered violence when used against men. Also, it is not uncommon for a woman to use a tool against a man such as a knife or blunt instrument. Just because men did these studies doesn't make them false. I find the argument of women being less strong than men to be an excuse rather than an argument.
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pkpapers 1 month ago
Americans can search the British (Norgrove) Official Family Justice Review. There's no need for criminal law oath for allegations of abduction etc?
A recent Dutch campaign on child abuse shows how women make false accusations of men in family court.
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For anybody watching it who has once been in Sander's situation (especially women) speak out & campaign to change family laws. Otherwise remain silent & be content enough with the situation to do nothing about it for dads & kids
TableWolfMusic 1 month ago
A very enlightening video. In my own life, on two occasions, I was physically attacked by a woman. One took a coffee mug and knocked me side the head with it. I was dizzy for days. Probably had a mild concussion. Of course, I didn't report it. My offense, breaking up with her. And it is not taken into account the mouth of women. Though it shouldn't be a complete defense for physical abuse, at least a women ragging on your ass hours on end should be considered a mitigating circumstance.
dnsmithnc 1 month ago
According to one of the studies in there, with men a higher education was negatively correlated with violence, while the opposite was true for women. WHAT IS WRONG WITH WOMEN!?
crackerkiller89 1 month ago
You are referring to studies on college and school kids. I know. I've researched this. Go sit in emergency and see who comes in with a broken jaw or a broken arm. It's not men. Stats show men kill 80% of the time in domestic murders. Of the remaining 20%, 15% are women defending themselves during an attack, That means ONLY 5% of domestic murders are committed by women. You think slandering women distracts from the truth, that you can hide the truth with lies. Nonsense!!
true6lue88 1 month ago
@true6lue88 I think a problem with research like that is that men are embarrassed or in denial a lot of the time, so they don't admit to being abused. Society has conditioned men to be 'tough' and to be able to defend themselves. When a man confesses to being raped or abused, they are met with either mockery or disbelief regardless whether the abuser is another man or a woman. I'm quite jaded with the current system for abuse toward both sexes, though. Not nearly enough is done.
superstaff 1 month ago 7
@superstaff In fact DV can occur right in a public place, and if its a woman hitting a man people do nothing.
One video of which a show did a social expiriment in a public place where they had a female actress pretending to physically and verbally abusing her boyfriend which was also an actor.
Over one hundred people walked by and did nothing, many assumed he had it coming to him.
We assume the best of women and the worst of men, should we be surprised men report this less?
ManSpeakOut 1 month ago
@ManSpeakOut Er, not sure why you're talking to me specifically... ^^;; Although, I do agree with a lot of what you say (and yes, I saw that episode of What Would You Do). But I can't deny that women do ALSO get abused. Men and women can abuse, but there are people of both sexes that are also victims. Humanity as a whole has been capable of all sorts of acts of cruelty. Equality means to acknowledge that both sexes deserve to be helped and taken seriously. (cont)
superstaff 1 month ago
@superstaff Ah crap, I just sent all of this to the wrong person. (Had not made that mistake in a long time.)
It was actually intented in response to YounkerDare, must have accidentally replied to yours instead of theirs since they were right next to each other, in my haste and went to town from there.
Course I am not going to re-write this all over again for a direct response to him, don't need to spam up the boards, and apologies for that
First time I acted like a noob in awhile
ManSpeakOut 1 month ago
@ManSpeakOut Oh, alright. I found it a bit strange since I kind of agree with you for the most part, heh...
superstaff 1 month ago
@true6lue88 - No, you're nonsense! Women abuse men all the time, you just don't know about it. The statistics are very askew because men don't often report abuse like women do but that doesn't mean it's not happening. So obviously the statistics are going to be heavily biased towards women when the reality is that men and women are both victims of domestic violence.
NautyKnight 1 month ago 18
@NautyKnight "biased" is not the right term to use when talking about statistics. 4.8 million women are raped and physically abused by men each year in the u.s. alone. what's unfair about reality? statistics are gathered from law enforcement to understand how widespread a certain crime has become.for the men who are physically abused,gay men included, they have to report the crime,just like women do.
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
@cherubicnerd - Wrong. There's 4.8 million rape and abuse REPORTS each year. How many of those REPORTS are false I wonder? And notice how they never keep statistics on false rape reports. Face it, our society is sexist as fuck against men. The whole fucking system is played in favor of women and totally against men. If a woman reports rape they add it to the statistics that she was raped. But was she really? Or was she just being a vindictive bitch out to get an ex-boyfriend locked up?
NautyKnight 2 weeks ago
@NautyKnight
False rape reports are fairly low because there is still a huge amount of stigma and shame surrounding rape charges; because (guess what?) rape victims will face a lot of attacks on whether they are telling the truth or not, or trying to get an "ex-boyfriend" in jail. There's also the whole "She wanted it thing". And actually, they do keep those statistics. According to government studies in the USA, definitive fake reports lay around 3-4% percent, and most rapes go unreported.
Windyshoot 2 weeks ago
@Windyshoot - Wrong again. Rape victims (in the US at least) have their identity fully protected while the accused has his identity smeared in the public eye. You don't think that a man who's being dragged through the mud with a rape charge against him is shamed? He's usually fired from his job, run out of town, nobody will hire him, etc. All this for just being ACCUSED of rape. His whole life is ruined before he's even convicted. This is wrong! It's an anti-justice when she could be lying!
NautyKnight 2 weeks ago
@Windyshoot - The 3-4% of false reports are those they have proven to be false rape reports. When they collect rape statistics they don't have to prove a rape happened. They just take the female's word for it. It goes down in the book as rape. It's impossible for law enforcement to know if a woman is lying or not so they just take her word for it. But there's an awful lot of women that are vindictive in this society who accuse men of all sorts of shit when it didn't happen. We all know it.
NautyKnight 2 weeks ago
@NautyKnight Yes, there is problems with that. But that doesn't change the fact that most women (and men) who experience rape still, even with their fully protected identity, do not report rape because even going to the police about it is /that shameful/.
For every rape that goes to the police, there's been at least 7 others who haven't.
You don't see a problem with that at all?
Windyshoot 2 weeks ago
@Windyshoot "For every rape that goes to the police, there's been at least 7 others who haven't." Um, excuse me, but if something isn't reported to the police, why should we believe it happened? Because some mentally unbalanced person said so on a a survey?
kmsoileau 5 days ago
@kmsoileau so,you don't believe that someone wouldn't tell? children are abused every day in the u.s. alone. do you think that they aren't abused because they don't tell someone? people don't tell things because of the shame and stigma attached to being victimized. you see how you said that the person is"unbalanced"? this comment is to your comment to Windyshoot.
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@cherubicnerd "people don't tell things because of the shame and stigma" I'm talking about adults, not children. Also, how does one distinguish a survey report of abuse that is factual from a survey report of abuse that never happened?
kmsoileau 5 days ago
@kmsoileau
Yes, yes they should. Because the more shame/victim blaming that a culture places on rape victims, the higher the rate of non-reported rapes get. Look @ Japan, South America, Russia, anywhere really.
But looking at your other comments, its pretty apparrent you just emotionally hate women and won't really listen to anything that might go against the imagionary bitches and harpes in your head.
Windyshoot 4 days ago
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@Windyshoot "women are the most common abusers of children" Your armchair psychoanalysis of men who disagree with you doesn't change this. Your response to criticism of women: "its pretty apparrent you just emotionally hate women". Laughable and predictable.
kmsoileau 4 days ago
@true6lue88 Research more carefully before you post a comment. Those numbers of yours are wrong.
chiboy3000 1 month ago
@true6lue88 amen,sister/brother.
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crangdaniel 1 month ago
While it is generally true that men are -on average- stronger physically by women (no that is not a sexist comment it is simply how nature made most of us) many a man hold the principle of not "hitting girls". I do however know there are exceptions aplenty there too, resulting in domestic violence.
I also know however of women that are so dominating and neurotic that lead men into depression or even in some cases suicide. For them the infamous "nail-slap" and "vase-tossing" is all too natural.
KabaMaroudis 1 month ago 15
@KabaMaroudis Lead men into depression and suicide. Yea the pussy whipped.
runescapeplox123 1 month ago
@KabaMaroudis I think most nordic women are stronger physically than asian men. So no, I find your statement etnocentric. Men get bitchslapped too, especially glamfags and femine men get treated bad, but men too. And lets not ignore domestic abuse from same gender either. These debates are too abrahamittic.
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fullmaniacpanic 2 weeks ago
@KabaMaroudis but, males, on average are also more prone to be more violent than women. even against the opposite sex.
look at the documentary : vimeo . com/19921232
password is: hjernevask
the statistics still hold the majority of men perpetrators.
a man is much more likely to kill a spouse then a woman.
but i will tell you what holds true : the relation between violence and intelligence, regardless of sex.
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We treat feminism in the same way we treat racism,
We scrutinize any person for feminist opinion,
We refuse to cooperate with a person with feminist opinions,
We ignore and prevent any action from a feminist.
We defend ourselves together against any feminist attack.
We push back the pendulum to that of which feminism has crossed the line.
BUT WE DO NOT MAKE THE FEMINIST MISTAKE OF ATTACKING THE FEMINIST AFTER DEFEATED, WE ONLY BOYCOTT AND STEP AWAY TOGETHER.
crangdaniel 2 months ago
i'm not a feminist, and i believe that there are allot of women who are the perpetrators, but no way is this dude right, i agree the hundreds of sources he pointed out are true but NOT representative, as there are even more sources suggesting that men are the common perpetrator. personally, i think we will never get accurate results/statistics because so many people don't speak up about being abused. I think it's pretty equal though when it comes to spousal abuse, but more women die probs.
YounkerDare 2 months ago 4
I lived with a woman who tried to provoke me to hit her on a regular basis for the last six months we lived together. I didn't hit back and I am glad I didnt because I might not be able to see my son. She has four children from four different men and she provokes violence to take the kids and the support payments and evict the men. If the laws were much more balanced she would have been arrested for punching me in the face and then punching our son (who I was holding) at the time.
jerome3151 2 months ago
male domestic violence doesnt exist, female domestic violence does and theres actual proof too amazing...
men you have nothing to complain about so shut the fuck up already and stop blaming men raping women, beating women on feminism. grow up and take responisblity for your actions.
Delirium189 2 months ago
@Delirium189 Saying abuse towards men doesn't exist is just as bad as saying abuse towards women is a myth. Men get abused as well, even by other men. I know men who would get beaten as children and then would get into bad relationships as adults.
superstaff 2 months ago 6
@Delirium189 There are no actions for abused men to take responsibility for because they're not at fault. I hate it when some people tell abused men either to "grow up" or that "it's their faults" when neither is true.
chiboy3000 1 month ago 2
@Delirium189 How dare you say that when there are countless men who are abused by women on a daily basis. My friend's mom gets drunk all the time and then physically and verbally abuses my friend and his dad, and they just take it day after day. Violence against men is a problem, and it needs to be addressed.
GuitarGuy5000000000 1 month ago 4
Men are rapists, murderers and women beaters.. and you cannot disprove it at all... i know many men who beat rape etc.. and just because you dont see it doesnt mean is isnt there. you are stupid to claim this is false when you are so blind to see it is happening all over the world.
Delirium189 2 months ago
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jerome3151 2 months ago
@Delirium189 Are you serious? You think that men are the only ones who do these things? You think that all men act like that? You're wrong. Women can be rapists and murderers, too. They can also be men-beaters. Abuse against men does exist. This video proves it. Search it on the internet if you're in denial. You will find supporting facts. Don't call people blind and stupid when you're acting like that as well, not knowing about this issue.
chiboy3000 1 month ago 2
If a women wants to act like a man then I treat them like a man. Most of the time I just walk away. Women manipulate the system to their own ends. They have no soul and are in fact souless whores.
Grizzly907LA 2 months ago
@Grizzly907LA Not all women are manipulative, just like not all men are helpless victims either. There's good people and there are also bad people. I think anyone who's been abused needs help. Sadly, abuse in general isn't taken seriously by law enforcement.
superstaff 2 months ago 3
@superstaff Ummmm the cops are all over a guy if their is so match as a scratch on a women. They laugh when a women gives a guy a black eye. You have no idea of whats going on. The feminazi's are a powerful lobby even though their are only about a hundred throughout America.
Grizzly907LA 2 months ago
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@Grizzly907LA Not really on the thing about cops being all over a guy if a woman has a scratch. At least not in my experience. But I know men do get laughed at or shrugged off over having a black eye from a woman.
superstaff 2 months ago
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Help stop violence against women, if a thirteen year old can get it then why cant we?
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Dealornodealmadtv 2 months ago
Oh, uploader, I forgot to mention that your screen name suggests you hate women...making you no better than the sexist feminists... Unless it's a joke? I have a feeling it might be. I disagree with sexism from eiether end.
DallasNeedsADentist 2 months ago
@scooma1 - Well nobody, male or female, should have to take any kind of abuse or violence. That's all my point ever was. You can defend yourself physically if they are physically hurting you but emotionally...you should not give them that kind of power. You should not allow them to hurt you emotionally, why not just walk away and if they continue divorce or leave them. You don't need that in your life and you don't need to stoop to that level eiether. Take the high road.
DallasNeedsADentist 2 months ago
Just so you know, uploader, Dr. Phil would most likely agree with you... He is a man himself. I'm sure he's aware of the unfair sexism you're pointing out. Through the years of me watching him he seems like the type of man that would take everyone to task regardless of gender. There's not a sexist bone in his body. He'd get your point as I do.
DallasNeedsADentist 2 months ago
@scooma1 - I believe that regardles of how anybody is provoked that they should walk away not hit. It doesn't matter if you're male or female. violence is wrong, there is no excuse. That's all I'm saying.
DallasNeedsADentist 2 months ago
If women could control their mouths, then domestic abuse would drop 99.9%. And if any women reads this, you know in your heart this is true.
mercury4metal 2 months ago
@mercury4metal - So you're saying that because some man with a fucknig sense of entitlement can come home and beat his wife because he doesn't like what she has to say? Am I just supposed to shut up and be your slave? FUCK YOU, I have a right to tell and express myself without fearing being beaten up by the likes of you. That works both ways men also have the right to be heard, but your comment suggests that ONLY men have that right which is also BULLSHIT!
DallasNeedsADentist 2 months ago
@DallasNeedsADentist - WHOA!!! Did you even read what I wrote, or did you let your emotions take over and blurt out without thinking about what you're saying?!? This is a perfect example of why "some women" end up like this. Of course it's not right to hit a woman, and who said anything about being a slave?!? You're the type of woman who misses the point, says the wrong thing, and ends up on the floor. Control your mouth,..............problem solved.
mercury4metal 2 months ago
@mercury4metal - Just because I misread you and say something that offends you doesn't give you the right to push me to the floor. In that situation you would be the one letting their emotions take over. Both men and women need to control their mouths AND their fists. Take a walk, do whatever you need to do to calm down and then talk to the person rationally. When both humans are rational it's more difficult for eiether person to be misread. I'm more calm now then I was last night and it shows.
DallasNeedsADentist 2 months ago
No one is immune to abuse.
Dasneezequeen 2 months ago
Abuse is a very complex subject. I don't deny that men do get abused. The other day, I saw a woman be verbally abusive to her boyfriend(?) at a store. My own experience had my father be physically and verbally abusive to both my mom and I (I'm female btw), while my mom didn't fight back against him, she did turn a lot of her frustration with my dad on me. So I ended up getting some abuse from both parents. I don't think sides can be taken in this issue. Both sexes can abuse and be victims.
superstaff 2 months ago 40
@superstaff Depends on what you mean by side? Im on the "side" that is for educating both sexes to report when they have been abused or raped. And if that study is representative in its data that 70% of nonreciprocal violence is perpetrated by women, that means that the pendulum has now swung the OTHER way and that MEN are treated unequally by women.
crackerkiller89 1 month ago
@superstaff And verbal abuse is COMPLETE BULLSHIT.
crackerkiller89 1 month ago
@crackerkiller89 >_> I think you should go check out HappyMisogynist's rant on men. You fit that bill perfectly.
superstaff 1 month ago
@superstaff The few men who do seek help end up being the ones arrested and labeled as the perpatrator themselves.
There is many factors to account for as to why men reporting their abuse is so low.
The studies that say women suffer more can easily be disproved through these factors and visual evidence all the time. I recently finished watching a video where a woman almost killed a man by beating him with a baseball bat.
ManSpeakOut 1 month ago
@superstaff Our society has no sympathy for men who are abused by women, and thus many suffer in silence.
The few that seek help are ridiculed and never taken seriously and in worse cases arrested themselves.
Women are more likely to use weapons then a man when committing DV, such as throwing objects or hitting with a blunt weapon.
Women can also be very verbally abusive, which has psychological effects on the victim.
ManSpeakOut 1 month ago
@ManSpeakOut I'm not sure why sides need to be taken in this topic. Men do deserve to be helped when they are being abused. Honestly, if I saw a woman beating on a man like that, I would at the very least call the police. Saying "Oh, I bet he had it coming" is not an excuse to me. And I would do the same if I saw a man beating a woman as well. Serious damage can be done and regardless of what a person did to another, hitting another is not right. (cont)
superstaff 1 month ago
@ManSpeakOut I don't like to play the blame game on either sex. Maybe it's my own experience since I've witnessed and been the target of male and female abusers alike, so I see what people in general are capable of. Honestly, nothing is going to change unless people realize that humans in general regardless of race, religion, orientation, etc. are capable of good and evil, and to stop perpetuating/believing in misconceptions about others. Sadly, that won't be happening anytime soon.
superstaff 1 month ago
I have seen and experienced women just asking to get their ass beat. You cant blame the dude for everything. Lets not forget how volital womens crazy emotions are. Sometimes a woman deserves the whooping she gets.
chuckgriffith636 2 months ago
I work with domestic violence, and regardless of this video, there is a reality that women can be perpetrators of non-defensive intimate partner violence. When we consider the coercive control, there is a greater likelihood of women being perpetrators.
mftman1 2 months ago
looks like two people accidentally hit the thumbs up button for cassiopeia191 incredibly idiotic and inane comment
ShriekoftheVulture3 2 months ago
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He's speaking truth
thecolaratlady 2 months ago
Good vid, thx!
drydust999 2 months ago
Course asking someone to read a book that could refute everything they believe in is like asking a cat to not lick itself.
ManSpeakOut 2 months ago
In fact the only real reason someone might disagree is because they enjoy the victimology they live in and don't want people like TheHappyMisogynist to come in and ruin it.
ManSpeakOut 2 months ago
You don't what you're talking about. not a clue...
caitefreebird 2 months ago
@caitefreebird and yet you say or show nothing to back up this claim...and no your opinion alone does not count.
I always find it funny on how people disagree without actually proving how he is wrong, maybe because it IS true but they don't want to admit it?
ManSpeakOut 2 months ago
lol u sound like billy bob thornton
BrendanStuart 2 months ago
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pkpapers 2 months ago
Most people, male or female have little pity for people who struggle in their domestic life. I don't really give a shit about stats. I say we should try and help people, (note I said PEOPLE) work their way out of their predicaments.
newishness 2 months ago
I feel that its all about your mental state.
hottjay86 2 months ago
Domestic Violence can happen to anyone male or female but i'm myself am in a domestic violence relationship and i know the right and best thing for me to do is escape with my 3 children i just dont know what to do i'm scared.
hottjay86 2 months ago
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I think he is right both can be violent.
HairH2O 2 months ago
Look how this man is serving life in prison for a crime he did not commit because of DV accusations of the victim when she was alive when in fact she was the one abusing him and gashing his face. Go to paulzumot com
BulosIsInnocent 2 months ago